Before I went to federal prison I studied spring forest Qi gong with master Lin university of Minnesota. This was almost 20 years ago. I was interested in that because I had become sick at the time and somebody introduced me to him. And then a few years later I went to prison and started lifting weights. I started digesting everything I could on Qi gong. Using qi gong I learned how to create tremendous internal pressure and spinal stabilization and I was able to squat 700 pounds and dead lift 700 and at a sub 200 pound body weight in prison. On a prison diet. Then I started getting into hard Qi gong bone marrow cleansing and brainwashing. It was unwise for me to begin this training without a real master to help me.
In brief the Daoists borrowed heavily from two other groups, the Naturalists (known also as the Yin Yang Sect) and the Mohists. The tai chi marketing machine, especially in the west makes false claims that the Daoists created the Yin Yang/ five element theory etc. Modern Chinese historians do not believe that the writings of Lao-Tsu were written by one person but by several people over a long period of time. The Daoists also translated a lot of the original Buddhist texts and incorporated them into their own philosophy. Basically martial arts existed before Shaolin and certainly well before Wudang. Don't shoot the messenger!
When I was living in NYC, I was a student of Lou Kleinsmith, a student of Professor Cheng, and his student Bob Lumish. Bib was translating The Yellow Emperor’s Classic of Chinese Medicine. This is of more than theoretical interest to me. Still doing my arts, meditating and seeking to follow the Way. Thank you. 🙏
I’ve always thought the Tao Te Ching was more metaphysical than philosophical. As from stanza 1: “ thus, constantly without desire, one observes its essence. Constantly with desire, one observes it’s manifestations.” (Derek Linn translation) for my money, this is saying “as above so below. “
What do you think of this religious Taoism? I can't get into it, I love the meditation and internal alchemy but once the demons and ghosts and gods come ini can't relate to it
Adam, you're very humble so I'll say it for you, for this generation, for some, you're the new Bruce Lee. The masters have been waiting for someone like you, and so have your students
I am a student of the three wise men, Larry, Curly, and Moe; I came before I was, and am more than whatever I will be, who am I? Shall we continue chasing rabbits down rabbit holes...oh my...sending love and peace to everyone...
I ordered the Neiye book translation. I'm curious to see if it has terms that would show an outer elixir lineage (like lower, middle, upper elixir field which match the lower middle and upper burners/ovens of the outer elixir practice). If so it would suggest the Neiye was preceded by the outer elixir sects. In terms of the oldest Taoists, my current understanding is the oldest were the shaman lineages that descended from the Zhou (the taoist shaman that were the source of the rites and rituals that Confucius was looking to restore). I think the outer elixir sect split off from them first, followed by the internal elixir set, with religious taoism being last. But that's based on texts of inner elixir having external elixir terminology as the basis for explaining how their processes work.
Just read the Neyei. Definitely an amazing find. At least as old as the outer elixir works and with no real evidence of external elixir terminology. So at this point it looks like the Taoist Shamen were first followed by external elixir and the neiye, with no clear evidence on whether either preceded the other.
The BoddiDharma mixed Tsan Buddhism with the local philosophy of the Tao in the 9 years he did wall-facing ZaZen in a little crevice on SongShan ( about a kilometre above 'the little temple in the woods' -'Shaolin' ). When He started teaching the monks Pranayama in 535, (notably 'the 5 animal play' and 'the 18 Luohan techniques of an Arhat), it later became to be developed into what is known today as Shaolin Wushu and Shaolin chi-gung. BoddiDharma, the Founder of Pure Land Buddhism (Chan Buddhism) known as ZEN in Japan and the west was a ChiGung Master and an Aryuveda Master. *Also check-out the 'Huang-Ti nei ching Su Wen' -the oldest surviving Chinese medical classic where Chi Po explains to Huang-Ti (the Yellow Emperor), how 'Internal medicine' works. * Chi Po was thus a ChiKung Master looong before LaoTze and ChuanTse. HongTze better known as Kung-Fu-Tse (Confucius is the Latin name) in the west, was the great Chigung master that acknowledged Lao Tze as a DRAGON. HuaTua was a Great Chi-gung master and Surgeon that did spinal surgery 2K years ago. Also read the "Tai Chi classics" it explains - first there was the "Wu-Chi" (the nothing-ness)(the void), then came the "Wang-Chi" and after that came the "Tai-Chi" ( the Great Supreme Ultimate ), after which the 10 000 myriad 'things' came into being. *Also the Buddha himself (Siddharta Gautama), was a Great PranaYama master and he acknowledged himself that he was not the first Buddha - that there was maybe 10 000 or more Buddhas Before Him. * in the west, 'Jesus' whose name was Immanuel (Matthew 1, first book of the New Testament), was a Buddha (Enlightened one), and 'Jesus' Buddha was a great Taoist and Chigung Master that often did ZaZen up in the Mountains and did energy healing and thought healing, (not understood by Christians and the uninitiated). (The name Jesus was not any persons name as such, but was a nickname derived from the acronym for Yod He Shin Vau He = YHSVH , similar to some thing he had said, Yod He Vau He = YHVH meaning I AM THAT I AM (I aUm that I aUm). (Keeping in mind, that in Latin, U was written as a V)(* the Bible was first read in Latin until the revolution that became known as 'Protest'antism led by Martin Luther and Jeanne Kelvin that caused every citizen to have a copy of indoctrination in his own language). Krishna was a Great Chigung (PranaYama) Master teaching Arjuna to also become One. BRGO the Sage was a great Seer, Saint and PranaYama master of DAO in a philosophy forgotten by Time, but recorded in Sanskrit and mentioned in the Bhagavad-Gita (the Celestial Song) by Sri Khrisna in his dialogue with Prince Arjuna sitting on top of the War-Elephant. (Which proves that Great Daoists are great Doers, not non-doers, even though they philosophy about nothing doing and doing nothing, do they not have a great movement within? Is there no growth in the soul from going 'inward'?? Is the drawing of Chi through the 'Bahui' from the universe and from the Earth (through (Kidney1) on the soles of your feet), into your 3 Dantien on your Ren and Du meridians to form the small circle circulation before circulating through the 12 meridians (the greater circle circulation), seen as doing nothing?? The mind leads the Chi and the CHI leads the body. Chi is in the air we breath, the food and Water we eat and drink and it takes Work (that cause aches) to accumulate it, store it and turn it into FaJing. *(aches itself are caused by a lack of chi in that part of the CNS). Happy Searching for the Answers. *Wang Ziqiao, was a princess in the sixth century BC, who spent three decades meditating in the SongShan mountains where she seeked Nirvana and became an enlightened being. ! Did you know that the Oldest remaining Taoist temple in the world was built 2200BC in Dengfeng, Henan. It was known as the Zhongyue Temple. Dengfeng is the closest town to the Shaolin Temple 13km further. (Mt. Zhongyue = SongShan). It still existed 30 years ago. (10 times bigger than Shaolin temple), The Chinese govt. Recently demolished it and turned it into a parkinglot.(ouch!!) *and as a added joke to the 1500 year history of the oldest Zen Temple in the world, they buildt a second-storey ontop of the entrance of the Shaolin Temple (??) Did you read the Dao Zang yet? (an Encyclopedia of Taoism). The earliest book on Taoist Alchemy is called the Can Tong Qi and contains the Duan Yin exercises in 12 forms. (The BaDuanJin or eight pieces of brocade contains 8 forms only). It can be seen as the earliest movements that led to the formation of Taoist Yoga (eg. T'ai Chi Chuan, Bagua Chang, PaoFaLin Wing Chun, Buddha Palm and Diamond Fist of Shaolin Temple etc) Hsing-i Chuan was devised by Genl. Yue Fei as a Mind-Intent form for his officers. The rest of the soldiers learnt the Eagle Claw system. Genl. Yue-Fei was a great Chigung master that saddely had been killed at a young age of 34 by jealous and insecure overlords.
Stoicism, Buddhism, and Taoism are the more obvious philosophies and religions that came about from the observation of nature. Theory can come from practice or vice versa; it doesn't really matter. The dichotomy between theory and practice is often arbitrary for the convenience of learning.
Before I went to federal prison I studied spring forest Qi gong with master Lin university of Minnesota. This was almost 20 years ago. I was interested in that because I had become sick at the time and somebody introduced me to him. And then a few years later I went to prison and started lifting weights. I started digesting everything I could on Qi gong. Using qi gong I learned how to create tremendous internal pressure and spinal stabilization and I was able to squat 700 pounds and dead lift 700 and at a sub 200 pound body weight in prison. On a prison diet. Then I started getting into hard Qi gong bone marrow cleansing and brainwashing. It was unwise for me to begin this training without a real master to help me.
In brief the Daoists borrowed heavily from two other groups, the Naturalists (known also as the Yin Yang Sect) and the Mohists. The tai chi marketing machine, especially in the west makes false claims that the Daoists created the Yin Yang/ five element theory etc.
Modern Chinese historians do not believe that the writings of Lao-Tsu were written by one person but by several people over a long period of time. The Daoists also translated a lot of the original Buddhist texts and incorporated them into their own philosophy.
Basically martial arts existed before Shaolin and certainly well before Wudang. Don't shoot the messenger!
When I was living in NYC, I was a student of Lou Kleinsmith, a student of Professor Cheng, and his student Bob Lumish. Bib was translating The Yellow Emperor’s Classic of Chinese Medicine.
This is of more than theoretical interest to me. Still doing my arts, meditating and seeking to follow the Way.
Thank you. 🙏
I’ve always thought the Tao Te Ching was more metaphysical than philosophical. As from stanza 1:
“ thus, constantly without desire, one observes its essence. Constantly with desire, one observes it’s manifestations.” (Derek Linn translation)
for my money, this is saying “as above so below. “
What do you think of this religious Taoism? I can't get into it, I love the meditation and internal alchemy but once the demons and ghosts and gods come ini can't relate to it
the same with Buddhist it was meditation first before it became a Religion
Ahoy,would you make a video talking about shoulder strikes of Xing Yi? I heard they are a very peculiar element of it.
Adam, you're very humble so I'll say it for you, for this generation, for some, you're the new Bruce Lee. The masters have been waiting for someone like you, and so have your students
I am a student of the three wise men, Larry, Curly, and Moe; I came before I was, and am more than whatever I will be, who am I? Shall we continue chasing rabbits down rabbit holes...oh my...sending love and peace to everyone...
I feel like the book title “The Original dao” is in a way against Taoist philosophy?? 🧐
Anyway I love your channel
Words lack to impress my gratitude!
I ordered the Neiye book translation. I'm curious to see if it has terms that would show an outer elixir lineage (like lower, middle, upper elixir field which match the lower middle and upper burners/ovens of the outer elixir practice). If so it would suggest the Neiye was preceded by the outer elixir sects. In terms of the oldest Taoists, my current understanding is the oldest were the shaman lineages that descended from the Zhou (the taoist shaman that were the source of the rites and rituals that Confucius was looking to restore). I think the outer elixir sect split off from them first, followed by the internal elixir set, with religious taoism being last. But that's based on texts of inner elixir having external elixir terminology as the basis for explaining how their processes work.
Just read the Neyei. Definitely an amazing find. At least as old as the outer elixir works and with no real evidence of external elixir terminology. So at this point it looks like the Taoist Shamen were first followed by external elixir and the neiye, with no clear evidence on whether either preceded the other.
The BoddiDharma mixed Tsan Buddhism with the local philosophy of the Tao in the 9 years he did wall-facing ZaZen in a little crevice on SongShan ( about a kilometre above 'the little temple in the woods' -'Shaolin' ). When He started teaching the monks Pranayama in 535, (notably 'the 5 animal play' and 'the 18 Luohan techniques of an Arhat), it later became to be developed into what is known today as Shaolin Wushu and Shaolin chi-gung.
BoddiDharma, the Founder of Pure Land Buddhism (Chan Buddhism) known as ZEN in Japan and the west was a ChiGung Master and an Aryuveda Master.
*Also check-out the 'Huang-Ti nei ching Su Wen' -the oldest surviving Chinese medical classic where Chi Po explains to Huang-Ti (the Yellow Emperor), how 'Internal medicine' works.
*
Chi Po was thus a ChiKung Master looong before LaoTze and ChuanTse.
HongTze better known as Kung-Fu-Tse (Confucius is the Latin name) in the west, was the great Chigung master that acknowledged Lao Tze as a DRAGON.
HuaTua was a Great Chi-gung master and Surgeon that did spinal surgery 2K years ago.
Also read the "Tai Chi classics" it explains - first there was the "Wu-Chi" (the nothing-ness)(the void), then came the "Wang-Chi" and after that came the "Tai-Chi" ( the Great Supreme Ultimate ), after which the 10 000 myriad 'things' came into being.
*Also the Buddha himself (Siddharta Gautama), was a Great PranaYama master and he acknowledged himself that he was not the first Buddha - that there was maybe 10 000 or more Buddhas Before Him.
* in the west, 'Jesus' whose name was Immanuel (Matthew 1, first book of the New Testament), was a Buddha (Enlightened one), and 'Jesus' Buddha was a great Taoist and Chigung Master that often did ZaZen up in the Mountains and did energy healing and thought healing, (not understood by Christians and the uninitiated).
(The name Jesus was not any persons name as such, but was a nickname derived from the acronym for Yod He Shin Vau He = YHSVH , similar to some thing he had said, Yod He Vau He = YHVH meaning I AM THAT I AM (I aUm that I aUm). (Keeping in mind, that in Latin, U was written as a V)(* the Bible was first read in Latin until the revolution that became known as 'Protest'antism led by Martin Luther and Jeanne Kelvin that caused every citizen to have a copy of indoctrination in his own language).
Krishna was a Great Chigung (PranaYama) Master teaching Arjuna to also become One.
BRGO the Sage was a great Seer, Saint and PranaYama master of DAO in a philosophy forgotten by Time, but recorded in Sanskrit and mentioned in the Bhagavad-Gita (the Celestial Song) by Sri Khrisna in his dialogue with Prince Arjuna sitting on top of the War-Elephant. (Which proves that Great Daoists are great Doers, not non-doers, even though they philosophy about nothing doing and doing nothing, do they not have a great movement within? Is there no growth in the soul from going 'inward'?? Is the drawing of Chi through the 'Bahui' from the universe and from the Earth (through (Kidney1) on the soles of your feet), into your 3 Dantien on your Ren and Du meridians to form the small circle circulation before circulating through the 12 meridians (the greater circle circulation), seen as doing nothing??
The mind leads the Chi and the CHI leads the body.
Chi is in the air we breath, the food and Water we eat and drink and it takes Work (that cause aches) to accumulate it, store it and turn it into FaJing.
*(aches itself are caused by a lack of chi in that part of the CNS).
Happy Searching for the Answers.
*Wang Ziqiao, was a princess in the sixth century BC, who spent three decades meditating in the SongShan mountains where she seeked Nirvana and became an enlightened being.
! Did you know that the Oldest remaining Taoist temple in the world was built 2200BC in Dengfeng, Henan. It was known as the Zhongyue Temple. Dengfeng is the closest town to the Shaolin Temple 13km further. (Mt. Zhongyue = SongShan). It still existed 30 years ago. (10 times bigger than Shaolin temple), The Chinese govt. Recently demolished it and turned it into a parkinglot.(ouch!!)
*and as a added joke to the 1500 year history of the oldest Zen Temple in the world, they buildt a second-storey ontop of the entrance of the Shaolin Temple (??)
Did you read the Dao Zang yet? (an Encyclopedia of Taoism).
The earliest book on Taoist Alchemy is called the Can Tong Qi and contains the Duan Yin exercises in 12 forms. (The BaDuanJin or eight pieces of brocade contains 8 forms only). It can be seen as the earliest movements that led to the formation of Taoist Yoga (eg. T'ai Chi Chuan, Bagua Chang, PaoFaLin Wing Chun, Buddha Palm and Diamond Fist of Shaolin Temple etc) Hsing-i Chuan was devised by Genl. Yue Fei as a Mind-Intent form for his officers. The rest of the soldiers learnt the Eagle Claw system.
Genl. Yue-Fei was a great Chigung master that saddely had been killed at a young age of 34
by jealous and insecure overlords.
Stoicism, Buddhism, and Taoism are the more obvious philosophies and religions that came about from the observation of nature. Theory can come from practice or vice versa; it doesn't really matter. The dichotomy between theory and practice is often arbitrary for the convenience of learning.