Good work. You've clearly done your research knowing my pet name for the map polygons as "floor triangles". It felt nice coming up with these strats myself, and of course the A button challenge is way harder than fewest throws so i dont blame you for not doing it. When you had issues attempting tricks, i would have been happy to go over it with you for example floor boundaries. Puffy Blowhog is easy to do 1x A by a human, BLL can probably be done 10xA with enough patience. You can do CR 0x by luring a water dumple outside it's threat range, then killing it next to the wall. It's pretty easy too.
Damn a comment from the master himself. For real dude, you are insanely talented at the game. If we could get in contact I would love to talk pikmin with you. I have so many questions lol.
@@pressaTD I've replied a couple of times but it's not gone through, not sure why. You can find me easiest through the speedrun disco, I'd be happy to help.
@@FissionCube thats sad. i've only played 1 & 2 because my most modern consol is a Wii but pikmin were some of my all time favorites and i've wished to play 3 &4
I've seen a single pikmin do nearly a quarter of beady's health, but you have to get lucky with the pikmin hanging on through multiple shake attempts really cool challenge though! and really clever ways of handling it!
You can actually make yellow pikmin drop bombs without throwing them. Dismiess them near the wall and call them back with a quick tap of B. If you hold B, they will keep their bombs, but if you tap B, they will drop them.
testing on GC, I can't get them to drop a bomb while dismissed. You can get them to drop if they've been thrown and holding position, but even when near a wall a dismissed bomb won't drop on a short whistle.
I never knew blue pikmin would attempt to save drowning pikmin. This was only because I dreaded bringing any non-blue pikmin near bodies of water; drowning pikmin is a dreadful sound…
One small addition id like to recommend; maybe add a little “demo” marker or something similar when using footage from outside the run? Not strictly necessary, but can make it clearer when you’re just explaining/demonstrating something
I don't know if I'm misremembering but I'm pretty sure there's a glitch to beat beady long legs with just one throw if you get the pikmin on him before the falling animation has completed, which makes the pikmin unshakeable.
You could probably save a throw in the armored cannon beetle fight by luring a sheargrub into the arena to set off some yellow Pickman with bomb rocks (to defeat it in one cycle)
Great video! I love seeing Pikmin challenge runs like this. Depending on what you count as "beating" the game, you could still get the Average ending without the three throws in the final trial, since the secret safe isn't required for this ending. The good ending is definitely more interesting and compelling though.
If it was a lot of throws I probably would have skipped it but I figured 3 was tolerable. Also I thought doing the rest of the trial without throws was interesting enough to show off.
It doesn't tell you in the controls anywhere. It's one of those fun easter egg things where if you happen to press down on the d-pad which is used no where else in game you'd find out about it. While laying down your pikmin will pick you up and carry you back to the onion as well. I think Olimar can't be damaged by enemies either while laying down.
Hey, love your challenge runs!! Also you do have great quality in your videos, have you thought of doing pikmin 4 challenges? ( Or 3? I dont remember if you have done of 3 but still), love your content, keep growing!!!
For the beady fight I could swear I once saw a tas or speedrun that beats him with one pikmin. It uses camera tricks and timed whistling but I don't know how it works or find the video I saw it in.
@@pressaTD The blowhog in DS for the IR is not TAS only. If you lure it to the island which is at the limits of its wander range, you can throw a single on and it won't shake or blow.
This is the first video I’ve ever seen from this channel, but the amount of techniques shown in this video shows that it’s criminally underrated. Keep up the good work!
Beady Longlegs has a coding to check for pikmin on it's body when all four legs are in a perfect square and if it detects one, it shakes. This means you MUST get a pikmin on it the moment AFTER it has "rested" and is starting a new walk sequence for maximum damage. This could feasibly cut down the number of throws.
I love your pikmin challenge runs, I only watch those on 1 & 3 bc the other two games are on my to play list and I want to avoid spoilers, but I def will watch them after im done with the respective games
I wonder if that box in the Forest Navel is intended to be solved that way? I bet if that mechanic was shown front and center and encouraged to be used, that could make sense. It almost seems viable in a casual playthrough...
While it didn’t effect the run, you can throw several less Pikmin at the yellow candypop bud in the distant spring if you stand at the highest point of the shore. But this may only work on the Wii/Switch versions idk.
Idk if this is only HD (Switch) version of pikmin 1 but my beady long legs had put his head all the way to the ground and a little clipped inside in which I could use the C-Stick to swarm him.
You might be able to damage beady throw less by crushing Pikmin with bomb rocks using beady then having it do that lowering animation to get in range of the explosion. It would take some ai manipulation but it might work
I don't remember exactly how But I swear there is another way to detonate the bombs... I think it involves pressing x to dismiss the pikmin into groups Then when you whistle, the yellows drop the bombs You may need at least 2 colors I don't remember the exact method... I just remember having to re start multiple days as a kid because my yellows were so eager to detonate when I didn't want them to
XD i love challenge runers. They are like "you know that basic mechanick that makes this game playable and makes them good? lets fuck the programers and beat it without it"
I can't guarantee this is doable by a human, but *allegedly*, Beady Long Legs might be possible to reduce to just one throw. Running around its feet can change its behavior when it comes to trying to shake off pikmin, but RNG/luck is also a thing. Can definitely be done with TAS, though! Armored Cannon Beetle can be reduced to one throw and Puffy Blowhog POSSIBLY to zero throws if you lure Shearwigs over to yellow pikmin holding bomb rocks I haven't heard of anything else that might work to improve this, but subtracting 27 from your already impressively low number is nothing to shake a stick at
Pikmin WILL drop Bombs if you let them sit somewhere and then Wistle them to you. That show i lost a whole Squad of yellows in the cave after they climbed up a stick with bombs.
Only 25 ship pieces are necessary, so you can beat the game without ANY throws. (edit: I'm wrong lol, specific parts (that are not the throw necessary ones) are the ones not required)
@@pressaTD Ah, I didn't know if it was certain parts (such as the massage chair/shiny bolt) or any parts at all, my bad. (then again I've only ever played the game once ages ago so)
I know there is a way to get yellows to drop bombs with the whistle on the GameCube version, I used to accidentally do it all the time. Absolutely love the creative strategy with the bulborb killing the bombers though!
You might be able to beat beady long legs in the original (not the switch version I don't know what your on but it is not the original) because when you whistle yellow pikmin holding bomb rocks that drop it and it explodes I for one leant this the hard way and blew up loads of yellows 6:37 I don't know if this will work though
I’m playing on the original version, yellows will only drop a bomb if thrown then whistled, if they are dismissed and you whistle them they don’t drop it.
@@Rosem_Blossom no, finishing the video requires watching it in the entirety and i have no time for that so i didnt finish the video and saw the total pikmin throw amount he got
here's an idea: pikmin but each pikmin death equals you rolling back a major dolphin version I'm interested to see how inaccurate it gets as it goes along
you can hit the feet in pikmin 1 however it only slows down the legs if you have enough on them ( i swear its possible that it cant lift the leg off the ground). No damage is done. However i do believe that attacking the legs also weighs down the head, but i cant tell if bomb rocks can even damage it.
While doing some research on the Beady Long Legs, I found an interesting fact: it can crash your game! It can sometimes leave it's arena, fall out of bounds, and cause the game to crash. However, in Pikmin 2, to prevent this issue, any enemy that falls through the map dies instantly, and drops anything it was carrying on the ground above it. Which may come in handy if you intend to try any challenges of that game.
m.th-cam.com/video/V87bFAPan7A/w-d-xo.html As soon as you got to the Beady section this was the first thing I thought of. Probably been a couple years since I watched this video but it stuck with me haha. Most definitely a TAS-only strat though.
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Good work. You've clearly done your research knowing my pet name for the map polygons as "floor triangles". It felt nice coming up with these strats myself, and of course the A button challenge is way harder than fewest throws so i dont blame you for not doing it. When you had issues attempting tricks, i would have been happy to go over it with you for example floor boundaries.
Puffy Blowhog is easy to do 1x A by a human, BLL can probably be done 10xA with enough patience. You can do CR 0x by luring a water dumple outside it's threat range, then killing it next to the wall. It's pretty easy too.
Damn a comment from the master himself. For real dude, you are insanely talented at the game. If we could get in contact I would love to talk pikmin with you. I have so many questions lol.
@@pressaTD I've replied a couple of times but it's not gone through, not sure why. You can find me easiest through the speedrun disco, I'd be happy to help.
@@Mokaygee Awesome man thanks
@@Mokaygee If you've tried leaving a non-TH-cam link, then TH-cam probably didn't want to actually post your comment, just FYI.
Imagine naming your channel "Press A" then doing a challenge where you don't press A
Click bait tbh
It expresses what we are yelling at the screen as they play
It makes the a presses more special when rationed.
9:15 Blue ftw
It’s about subverting expectations
It makes sense that the out-of-bounds has floors. You can throw Pikmin up there, and it would he awkward if any fell out of the world...
Lol very true, don’t know why that didn’t cross my mind.
wow, i never knew the blue pikmin would try to save drowning pikmin
sadly they removed that feature in pikmin 3 and 4, i dont know why because it just makes sense
@@FissionCube thats sad. i've only played 1 & 2 because my most modern consol is a Wii but pikmin were some of my all time favorites and i've wished to play 3 &4
I've seen a single pikmin do nearly a quarter of beady's health, but you have to get lucky with the pikmin hanging on through multiple shake attempts
really cool challenge though! and really clever ways of handling it!
3:10 This is probably because the Pikmin need the collision to stay in the right place, rather than Olimar.
Excellent video, interesting concept!
You can actually make yellow pikmin drop bombs without throwing them. Dismiess them near the wall and call them back with a quick tap of B. If you hold B, they will keep their bombs, but if you tap B, they will drop them.
Does that work in the og gamecube game? I feel like that might be switch exclusive.
@pressaTD It definitely works in the original. I lost a whole squad to that stupid mechanic, and have never whistled bomb holding pikmin since.
If I remember right this is version-specific but I know for a fact you can get them to drop via whistle on GC
@@pressaTDother way around, you can't do it on switch, only GameCube
testing on GC, I can't get them to drop a bomb while dismissed. You can get them to drop if they've been thrown and holding position, but even when near a wall a dismissed bomb won't drop on a short whistle.
unfortunately challenge failed, sacrificing that many pikmin falls under the other definition of throwing 😔
Truly unfortunate
I never knew blue pikmin would attempt to save drowning pikmin. This was only because I dreaded bringing any non-blue pikmin near bodies of water; drowning pikmin is a dreadful sound…
One small addition id like to recommend; maybe add a little “demo” marker or something similar when using footage from outside the run? Not strictly necessary, but can make it clearer when you’re just explaining/demonstrating something
I don't know if I'm misremembering but I'm pretty sure there's a glitch to beat beady long legs with just one throw if you get the pikmin on him before the falling animation has completed, which makes the pikmin unshakeable.
You could probably save a throw in the armored cannon beetle fight by luring a sheargrub into the arena to set off some yellow Pickman with bomb rocks (to defeat it in one cycle)
Do bomb rocks damage the cannon beetle? I swear I’ve tried that before and it didn’t work.
@@pressaTD I haven't tested it myself, so I am not sure.
@@pressaTDif its back is open. Then yes. Bombs should deal some damage
@@pressaTD I think they do? I swear that Lemon (The Backlogs) damaged it in his yellow pikmin only run. (The damage was VERY low, though.)
Great video! I love seeing Pikmin challenge runs like this. Depending on what you count as "beating" the game, you could still get the Average ending without the three throws in the final trial, since the secret safe isn't required for this ending. The good ending is definitely more interesting and compelling though.
If it was a lot of throws I probably would have skipped it but I figured 3 was tolerable. Also I thought doing the rest of the trial without throws was interesting enough to show off.
@@pressaTD It was definitely worth the throws in my opinion!
You can end the game any% with zero throws! (0 is any, right?)
Typo in the thumbnail by the way: it should say "it's way less *than* you think" not "less then you think"
Looking at all the Pikmin deaths: *"All that to avoid an A press?"*
❌Throwing for content
✅Refusing to throw, for content
many pikmin were lost for the noble cause of saving Olimar's arms
I didn't even know it was possible to lay down in Pikmin let alone that you could cheese a bunch of parts by doing so. Interesting video.
It doesn't tell you in the controls anywhere. It's one of those fun easter egg things where if you happen to press down on the d-pad which is used no where else in game you'd find out about it. While laying down your pikmin will pick you up and carry you back to the onion as well. I think Olimar can't be damaged by enemies either while laying down.
Really nice, I didn't think you could come up with so many ideas to avoid throws. Good job!
was so cool seeing the process of each of the maneuvers used here
If Sleeping is so broken in this challenge, surely it will be less broken in Pikmin 2, right?
Right?
The carnage you casually dismiss with this challenge...
I love the deadpan delivery of your lines over footage of 20+ pikmin dying
Hey, love your challenge runs!! Also you do have great quality in your videos, have you thought of doing pikmin 4 challenges? ( Or 3? I dont remember if you have done of 3 but still), love your content, keep growing!!!
For the beady fight I could swear I once saw a tas or speedrun that beats him with one pikmin.
It uses camera tricks and timed whistling but I don't know how it works or find the video I saw it in.
Yeah you can do the same with the blow hog, I’m believe those tricks are tas only though.
@@pressaTD The blowhog in DS for the IR is not TAS only. If you lure it to the island which is at the limits of its wander range, you can throw a single on and it won't shake or blow.
It was in one of my ABC videos, you can find the exact video by searching for shadow of the pikmin (BLL 1x strat)
This is the first video I’ve ever seen from this channel, but the amount of techniques shown in this video shows that it’s criminally underrated. Keep up the good work!
He tried to not throw for content
That’s genius.
Beady Longlegs has a coding to check for pikmin on it's body when all four legs are in a perfect square and if it detects one, it shakes. This means you MUST get a pikmin on it the moment AFTER it has "rested" and is starting a new walk sequence for maximum damage. This could feasibly cut down the number of throws.
man, pikimin looks like a really fun game, i think i'll give it another shot, i think when i emulate an old game i should look up the manual
I love your pikmin challenge runs, I only watch those on 1 & 3 bc the other two games are on my to play list and I want to avoid spoilers, but I def will watch them after im done with the respective games
I never could defeat emperor bulblax, I would spend the entire day with 100 pikmin, use up all the bombs, and still run out of time fighting it.
I wonder if that box in the Forest Navel is intended to be solved that way? I bet if that mechanic was shown front and center and encouraged to be used, that could make sense. It almost seems viable in a casual playthrough...
The ground probably has collision out of bounds because you can (and sometimes are supposed to) throw pikmin there.
Haven't watched this yet, but I am here to accept wagers for Half an A press music 😂 (that was unironically a great video)
Imagine this challenge but with red pikmin only 💀
While it didn’t effect the run, you can throw several less Pikmin at the yellow candypop bud in the distant spring if you stand at the highest point of the shore. But this may only work on the Wii/Switch versions idk.
9:20 I did not know they would do that! SO COOL!
Idk if this is only HD (Switch) version of pikmin 1 but my beady long legs had put his head all the way to the ground and a little clipped inside in which I could use the C-Stick to swarm him.
You could've weighed down the beady long legs to slow down the shake animation, by herding the pikmin into his feet
Well, first of all, you can make beyond wakes and easy stops.Charger pickman at his legs , they climb up go to the bull
You might be able to damage beady throw less by crushing Pikmin with bomb rocks using beady then having it do that lowering animation to get in range of the explosion. It would take some ai manipulation but it might work
"The rules are simple, you can't press A and throw Pikmin" _Checks channel name_ waiiiiit...
It's "than" (inequality) instead of "then" (temporal order). I am sorry for pointing this out.
Very interesting challenge!
This also really bothers me lol
For the chronos you actually can get yellows onto the platform with the candy pop bud
9:10 BLUE PIKMIN WILL THROW OTHER PIKMIN IN WATER TO SAVE THEM?!?!?!
So many years of Pikmin and I have NEVER seen this!
BLUE PIKMIN LIFE GUARDS!!
Can this be reduced with parallel universes?
the madman is back again
I don't remember exactly how
But I swear there is another way to detonate the bombs...
I think it involves pressing x to dismiss the pikmin into groups
Then when you whistle, the yellows drop the bombs
You may need at least 2 colors
I don't remember the exact method... I just remember having to re start multiple days as a kid because my yellows were so eager to detonate when I didn't want them to
Can confirm, it was less than I thought 👍
Great Vid, i wonder how much 100%ing the game would increase the throw count by
0:10 in and Im loving the music
Great job bud
XD i love challenge runers. They are like "you know that basic mechanick that makes this game playable and makes them good? lets fuck the programers and beat it without it"
Beady long legs is vulnerable to bombs
Ok, HERE ME OUT instead of throwing them you lunge them
I saw the throws challenge with the snatch bug and wondered.. why can't you kill something there and nudge it off for 0 throws?
So yt recommended me this vid, i watched it and checked out your channel... why didnt it recommend me the dkc2 video, the game i love
I’ve been asking myself the same question!! Lol
@@pressaTD yt be weird lol
I could be wrong but couldnt you use the charge attack on beady long leg's legs? And then the pikmin climb them to reach his weak spot?
Lure beady over the fire geyser :P
youre a legend
Could you beat beatle bug(don't know its name, the big spider) with bombs?
I can't guarantee this is doable by a human, but *allegedly*, Beady Long Legs might be possible to reduce to just one throw. Running around its feet can change its behavior when it comes to trying to shake off pikmin, but RNG/luck is also a thing. Can definitely be done with TAS, though!
Armored Cannon Beetle can be reduced to one throw and Puffy Blowhog POSSIBLY to zero throws if you lure Shearwigs over to yellow pikmin holding bomb rocks
I haven't heard of anything else that might work to improve this, but subtracting 27 from your already impressively low number is nothing to shake a stick at
Couldnt you use the blue pikmin saving drowning pikmin to throw reds onto the puffy blowhog and snitch bug?
where are you from ? LA ? i love the vids but never really heard nobody talk like u
Pikmin WILL drop Bombs if you let them sit somewhere and then Wistle them to you. That show i lost a whole Squad of yellows in the cave after they climbed up a stick with bombs.
You have the throw them for that to work though. Dismissing them, then whistling won’t make them drop bombs.
TIL blue Pikmin save other drowning Pikmin
Litterally throwing.
Very cool
Only 25 ship pieces are necessary, so you can beat the game without ANY throws.
(edit: I'm wrong lol, specific parts (that are not the throw necessary ones) are the ones not required)
It’s only certain parts though, the 5 that aren’t mandatory don’t require any throws so it doesn’t change anything.
@@pressaTD Ah, I didn't know if it was certain parts (such as the massage chair/shiny bolt) or any parts at all, my bad. (then again I've only ever played the game once ages ago so)
Press A can't press A
so underrated
My guess was about 20 because of a puzzle (that i think is actually in pikmin 2 oop)
Is it possible to kill the blowhog by having blue Pikmin throw non-blues?
I don’t believe so, but to be honest I never tried. You can kill him with only 1 pikmin though, but I only found out how after I finished the video.
6:10 Could you defeat this enemy with bombs? Is the blast radius big enough to reach its "body"?
I know there is a way to get yellows to drop bombs with the whistle on the GameCube version, I used to accidentally do it all the time. Absolutely love the creative strategy with the bulborb killing the bombers though!
Can you use bombs to damage beady?
Unfortunately no
Than.
I've heard of throwing for content, but this is ridiculous
Cool!
Can you not bomb enemies you need to kill?
You might be able to beat beady long legs in the original (not the switch version I don't know what your on but it is not the original) because when you whistle yellow pikmin holding bomb rocks that drop it and it explodes I for one leant this the hard way and blew up loads of yellows 6:37
I don't know if this will work though
I’m playing on the original version, yellows will only drop a bomb if thrown then whistled, if they are dismissed and you whistle them they don’t drop it.
That's weird that must have patched it in later visions and I just have a order release of the game otherwise I don't know what is going on here
Game cube or wii? Which do you mean by the original. There are a few differences between them.
@@madmanhimes GameCube
You could’ve used the yellow pikmin drowning mechanics to get them to one of the ledges and only need 15 throws
edit: 16:22
Then I think? What then?
my guess for how many times you have to throw pikmin: 52
wow okay thats wrong
You gonna finish the video?
@@Rosem_Blossom no, finishing the video requires watching it in the entirety and i have no time for that so i didnt finish the video and saw the total pikmin throw amount he got
@@Bee_honk13 I'm glad that me replying to your comment got you to at least watch a little bit more of the video.
Than *
isn't 35 also the minimum number of pikmin to beat Pikmin 3?
than*
"than you think"
I dunno… at least 50
Also, does plucking count? They’re technically thrown out the ground…
here's an idea: pikmin but each pikmin death equals you rolling back a major dolphin version
I'm interested to see how inaccurate it gets as it goes along
than than than than than than than than than than **********
Feel better now?
@@pressaTD just can’t understand how someone over the age of 5 could confuse then and than so consistently. Very different meanings my guy
I’m just happy you got that out of your system, have a good day friend :)
@@pressaTD it's funny when people get passive aggressive about their own lack of intelligence :)
You are a god and should be worshiped as such
4:18 Shocking? was that a pun?
Can't you damage beady's feet in Pikmin 1? Or is that Pikmin 2?
you can hit the feet in pikmin 1 however it only slows down the legs if you have enough on them ( i swear its possible that it cant lift the leg off the ground). No damage is done. However i do believe that attacking the legs also weighs down the head, but i cant tell if bomb rocks can even damage it.
There is a hairy long legs that pikmin climb in P2. (if I'm remembering correct)
So what's that death counter looking like?
I don’t think you could handle it
@@pressaTD there's more dead then alive isn't there?
Poggers :)
More like, Pikkers.
19 h.
While doing some research on the Beady Long Legs, I found an interesting fact: it can crash your game!
It can sometimes leave it's arena, fall out of bounds, and cause the game to crash.
However, in Pikmin 2, to prevent this issue, any enemy that falls through the map dies instantly, and drops anything it was carrying on the ground above it.
Which may come in handy if you intend to try any challenges of that game.
No it can't this is a myth
So 26 is the lowest?
m.th-cam.com/video/V87bFAPan7A/w-d-xo.html
As soon as you got to the Beady section this was the first thing I thought of. Probably been a couple years since I watched this video but it stuck with me haha. Most definitely a TAS-only strat though.
Good to know some people appreciate art
you throw once, because the only way to beat the game is to not play it in the first place
jk i love pikmin, the joke wrote itself
*than