Was in the market for a beginner's MTB 4 Xmas and stumbled upon the Xtrada 7 for $852nz($540us) and a quick search popped up your reviews. Quality details and easy for an uneducated MTB user to understand. Cheers 👍
Sweet looking bike w/ the upgrades.....I had 1998 Manitou SX w/ their TPC dampening and rode that fork on my 1998 Barracuda XC for nearly 20 yrs with no issues
To improve the hydraulic disc brakes, a simple improvement is to upgrade the levers to SLX or better. These levers have more leverage and better modulation, plus theres much less slack so they feel more responsive. I've also changed the grips to matching yellow on mine ;)
I looked at getting the Xtrada 6 to match my Siskiu D6 (same paint scheme), but the 27.2 seatpost killed it for me. Ended up with a Specialized Rockhopper which has a 30.9 seatpost so I was able to get a 170mm dropper on it.
I put a machete (with a set of nukeproof wheels I found for $200 on marketplace) and PNW post on my girlfriend’s xtrada. I would argue that what makes the xtrada a good value bike is that it has a frame worth upgrading. If I bought a hardtail frame and deore 12speed drivetrain I would realistically already be up at close to $1000, and as you said it’s all the little parts that really start to add up. But if you upgrade one at a time it’s probably worth it.
Love the GT FOUR shirt. I use to have a GT FOUR but it's called a All Trac here in the U.S. I always wanted the GT FOUR badges. That bike has some sweet colors.
Was looking for a hardtail and found an ex-demo Xtrada 7 for 33% MSRP. Boy was I surprised when I got a fox34 for the fork instead. It rides so well and a dropper just makes it come together
I'm purchasing my first MTB. Your channel is SUPER helpful. I ordered my Xtrada 7 on sale this morning! Question: I want to order a dropper post now to have one ready when my bike arrives. With your original PNW link no longer available, is there a value dropper you could recommend? I'm not entirely sure of all the important specs to insure fit and install. Thanks in advance!
Nice upgrades. I almost bought the exact seat post clamp when I put in my dropper. It was just too expensive for what it was. Those metallic pads work better in those MT201 brakes? I didn’t see a link to the pads I think the color is a nice touch. I was also going to do the two white bottle holders but when with a white and a teal from a local Trek shop. It’s a pretty fun bike.
The metal pads offer a bit more bite and just a more familiar feel at least for me. I've never liked the unassured feel of resin pads. It's a super fun bike. It keeps impressing me when I ride it!
The best upgrade for these brakes is to upgrade the brake levers . Any shimano brake lever w/servo wave will increase braking power more so than if you were to run sintered pads. Look at deore, slx or xt levers. All you do is swap the levers, you don’t even need to take the brake calipers /houses off. . A simple top bleed and you’re good to go.
l love the upgrades but l probably just ride it stock until l found something l really didnt like . BUT GREAT WEIGHT SAVINGS FOR $1800 at almost $600 A POUND ?? :(
Question about the seatpost. I just ordered my xtrada 7 and wanted to buy a dropper post. The only size i can find are 31.6 but the bike has a size 31.8. Do you add anything in between or just clamp it harder?
You'll need a 27.2mm dropper post. A 31.6 is too wide and won't fit inside seat tube. PNW Components Rainier is the longest 27.2mm dropper on market currently.
Do you know if it is possible to swap xtrada 7's L frame with xtrada 6's M frame while keeping all the components of xtrada 7? So, medium frame of xtrada 6 with components of xtrada 7. Will there be any issues ?
How do you like the xtrada 7 compared to the san quentine 1? I’m torn between the two and it will be my first mtb. I’m still new and ride greens and blues in colorado. I do want improve my skills and eventually ride blacks
Got this bike based on your rec and made some of the same upgrades. It looks great and is so fun to ride. Wondering if you think a 2.5 inch tire would be an issue? I'm still using the suntour fork.
That's awesome to hear! I never tried anything bigger than a 2.4. Suntour has a tire clearance chart I just looked up, and it says max size for the fork is 2.4. I imagine they just play it conservatively and a 2.5" would probably clear.
What kind of fork should I search for that would fit this wheel? I keep hearing it’s “non boost” I don’t know what that means, except you can’t but just any fork?
Boost and non boost refer to the thru axle spacing. A non boost fork is 15x100 while a boost fork is 15x110. If you plan on running the stock wheels, you'll need a 15x100. I've heard of people running spacers and using a boost fork (makes up 5mm on each side of wheel) but I have never tried that personally. If that does work, then you could essentially buy any boost fork. Hope that helps!
Boost and non boost refer to the thru axle spacing. A non boost fork is 15x100 while a boost fork is 15x110. If you plan on running the stock wheels, you'll need a 15x100. I've heard of people running spacers and using a boost fork (makes up 5mm on each side of wheel) but I have never tried that personally. If that does work, then you could essentially buy any boost fork. Hope that helps!
Still have the stock fork on my xtrada 7, I've noticed it's leaving these fork oil rings where it compresses, is that normal?? Overall I'm happy enough with the fork but it's weird to see these rings
@@CobraKyle Thanks for the tip! I looked into this more and apparently this is more or less "normal"? The air fork still felt worlds better than what I had on the Xtrada 5 and generally this was a huge upgrade over the 5 so I may just keep riding as is unless it starts getting worse. I mean this was on the first ride of the bike so hopefully I wont have to mess with it too much in the beginning.
Hello, I have a question about the Polygon Xtrada 7. What's the difference between the 2021model and the 2022model? i saw the specs but as a 12 year old mtb lover, I can'f find a difference so pls answer this question.
@@CobraKyle Thank you so much! I will get the 2021 version because I like the paint job better hehe.... I love ur vids kieep it up! I am not a subscriber yet but I will subscribe! Thank you so much! Btw which one do you like it more, the 2021 or thr 2022?
What is your height that you decided to go with an XL frame? im about to order a new bike and im right at the 6 foot mark which basically splits the reccomendation of a L or XL....?
I'm 6' tall with a 32" inseam. I went with XL based on the reach figures. I typically ride bikes with a reach between 470 - 480, and the XL was at 470. 450mm reach on the size Large seemed a bit too short for my liking.
@@CobraKyle thanks, i wish Polygon had some kind of semi local dealer support network...but for the money im saving i guess i will be doing any wrenching myself
@Cobrakyle Got this bike based on your recs and made some of the same upgrades. It looks great and is so fun to ride. Wondering if you think a 2.5 inch tire would be an issue? I'm still using the suntour fork.
Yeah a little bit! I got the Advent X drivetrain for this bike recently just cause I've been wanting to test it out. Now it weighs in the high 27 pound range. Pretty light and fast bike!
What he didn’t tell you is that he had to change the headset because the Xtrada comes with a straight steerer fork in a tapered bottom bracket. He had to upgrade the headset so he could use his tapered manitou fork in the tapered head tube.. I just learned this the hard way. After dealing with numerous issues on my Xtrada I’m very disappointed that I didn’t buy a more reputable brand. The poor quality of the bike is apparent from the hubs to the headset. For 1000 dollars you get a higher quality bike elsewhere. Lower grade parts I can say that I would have been happier with a lower spec bike that was built properly.. Things that were wrong with my Xtrada: advertised with Shimano brakes. Was delivered with tektro. Bent rear wheel Both wheels have inadequate spoke tension and need to have every spoke tightened and the wheels trued Front hub completely bound up l. Required disassembly/repack Rear wheel hub loose and low on grease. Required disassembly/repack Brake disc bent on front wheel. Required straightening. Headset loose, when I disassembled it expecting to repack/re assemble, I found a bent bearing cage and a straight steerer tube shimmed to run in a tapered tube… absolutely unacceptable in my eyes. I’ll never buy anything from polygon again. Very disappointed.
The Xtrada 7 does come with a tapered fork. You must have the Xtrada 5 or 6 which does not have a tapered fork. I wouldn't knowingly mislead my audience in that manner. I upgraded the headset because I don't like the cheap loose ball bearing type of headsets and I liked the purple design...the exact reasons I stated in the video. Sorry to hear your experience with Polygon hasn't been positive. It sucks to get a new product and it shows up in less than stellar condition. I've been happy with mine and it showed up/worked as advertised. I hope you contacted either Polygon or the retailer you bought it from and shared that information as that should never be the standard for any bike company. I hope your next bike isn't as bad an experience.
@@CobraKyle you’re right it’s a 6, this bike can rip, Once my gripes got sorted, I really developed a bond with this bike. It’s a really capable bike with the addition of a proper rock shocks air fork…
A year later, already realizing this bike isn't even worth upgrading and needs to be swapped out for the Scott Scale 965. Same price (right now). Same group set with slightly better components. All of these upgrades would be easier because more compatible, or unnecessary. Also you get a dropper post and beefier tires. Less travel on the fork, but it's a speed demon and climber first and foremost. Geometry/specs are nearly identical except the major difference is significantly shorter stack height (speed and climbing).
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Was in the market for a beginner's MTB 4 Xmas and stumbled upon the Xtrada 7 for $852nz($540us) and a quick search popped up your reviews. Quality details and easy for an uneducated MTB user to understand. Cheers 👍
Its like I'm watching engineering explained but with bikes. Great upgrade path, nothing overkill.
All that's missing is the white board! Appreciate it!
Sweet looking bike w/ the upgrades.....I had 1998 Manitou SX w/ their TPC dampening and rode that fork on my 1998 Barracuda XC for nearly 20 yrs with no issues
Thanks! Everyone who has used a Manitou fork speaks very highly of them. Would love to see them come on more bikes!
To improve the hydraulic disc brakes, a simple improvement is to upgrade the levers to SLX or better. These levers have more leverage and better modulation, plus theres much less slack so they feel more responsive.
I've also changed the grips to matching yellow on mine ;)
Texas misses you
Thanks Christopher! I miss some aspects of Texas, but gotta give the riding award to Arkansas!
We love you Cobra Kyle. Thanks for the videos.
Thank you! Love hearing from all of you as well.
I just received my Xtrada 7 last week. Thank you for the great reviews to help me make my decision. I have already put the light purple grips on it😂😂
Where can I find those?
Wow you have a taste man 💪🏻
I looked at getting the Xtrada 6 to match my Siskiu D6 (same paint scheme), but the 27.2 seatpost killed it for me. Ended up with a Specialized Rockhopper which has a 30.9 seatpost so I was able to get a 170mm dropper on it.
those identical purple color 💜 good
Love the shirt haha GT4 and the bike looks killer!
Thanks Gino! Very fitting shirt considering Toyota's big news lately!
I put a machete (with a set of nukeproof wheels I found for $200 on marketplace) and PNW post on my girlfriend’s xtrada. I would argue that what makes the xtrada a good value bike is that it has a frame worth upgrading. If I bought a hardtail frame and deore 12speed drivetrain I would realistically already be up at close to $1000, and as you said it’s all the little parts that really start to add up. But if you upgrade one at a time it’s probably worth it.
Thanks for this video, I had a blast watching it 👍
Thanks! I had a blast making it!
Love the GT FOUR shirt. I use to have a GT FOUR but it's called a All Trac here in the U.S. I always wanted the GT FOUR badges. That bike has some sweet colors.
Very detailed. Thanks for sharing this with us 😊
Thanks for watching Harry! Glad you enjoyed.
My baby brother is your twin .... down to every detail. I love him so ..... I love you.
My R7 Expert and previously Markhor, were finicky to find the "sweet spot" for air pressure, but if you put the screws to them, they feel amazing.
Was looking for a hardtail and found an ex-demo Xtrada 7 for 33% MSRP.
Boy was I surprised when I got a fox34 for the fork instead. It rides so well and a dropper just makes it come together
Why did they put a Sunrace cassette on the Xtrada 7? Is Sunrace junk? Should the cassette be upgraded?
I'm purchasing my first MTB. Your channel is SUPER helpful. I ordered my Xtrada 7 on sale this morning! Question: I want to order a dropper post now to have one ready when my bike arrives. With your original PNW link no longer available, is there a value dropper you could recommend? I'm not entirely sure of all the important specs to insure fit and install. Thanks in advance!
awww man I was hoping for the fox 40 lol
Looks good bro!
Great video so thanks! I am getting this bike was interested in the Wolf Tooth Headset. What size fits this bike, 44 or 56mm?
Sick build Kyle!
I'm 5,10' should I get a M or L?
What’s your riding style?
we will have to do hardtails next time I'm up.
1000% Yes!
28 lbs is insane man
Yeah I'm pleased with that number. My goal was under 30 and I succeeded. Anything's possible when you spend too much money!
Nice upgrades. I almost bought the exact seat post clamp when I put in my dropper. It was just too expensive for what it was. Those metallic pads work better in those MT201 brakes? I didn’t see a link to the pads I think the color is a nice touch. I was also going to do the two white bottle holders but when with a white and a teal from a local Trek shop. It’s a pretty fun bike.
The metal pads offer a bit more bite and just a more familiar feel at least for me. I've never liked the unassured feel of resin pads. It's a super fun bike. It keeps impressing me when I ride it!
Make sure your rotors are compatible with the metallic pads. Resin specific rotors will wear super fast if you use metallic pads
The best upgrade for these brakes is to upgrade the brake levers . Any shimano brake lever w/servo wave will increase braking power more so than if you were to run sintered pads. Look at deore, slx or xt levers. All you do is swap the levers, you don’t even need to take the brake calipers /houses off. . A simple top bleed and you’re good to go.
The Xtrada I feel like it's a more of a comfortable trail bike tbh, the geometry ain't xc, tbh I'd call it a trail bike but still sick bike
I Feel like for the xtrada you can just upgrade the fork, pedals, grips, tires and a dropper and be set.
What are bad about the alloy pedals they come with do they not have studs?
No alloy pedals,plastic
@@gzblack2750 on the website it says alloy pedals though
You said you bought the xl size? How tall are you? I'm on the fence inbetween a L & XL
I’m going to buy one of these and upgrade to Shimano SLX, I have the upgrade components on another bike at the moment
l love the upgrades but l probably just ride it stock until l found something l really didnt like . BUT GREAT WEIGHT SAVINGS FOR $1800 at almost $600 A POUND ?? :(
Just recieved my PNW dropper, i checked the hack i did and i can slam it lower than the collar
Nice! A very worthy upgrade!
Question about the seatpost. I just ordered my xtrada 7 and wanted to buy a dropper post. The only size i can find are 31.6 but the bike has a size 31.8. Do you add anything in between or just clamp it harder?
You'll need a 27.2mm dropper post. A 31.6 is too wide and won't fit inside seat tube. PNW Components Rainier is the longest 27.2mm dropper on market currently.
@@CobraKyle thank you for replying. I read it wrong. Thats the seatpost clamp size. Lol my mistake
@@CobraKyle can you please recommend the travel length and overall length?
dont worry, On my qr budget hardtail I got for 899 cad, I spent 1700 cad on it for upgrades
What size tire did you fit on the rear? I am looking to put a 2.4” wide tire and am curious if it will fit
Do you know if it is possible to swap xtrada 7's L frame with xtrada 6's M frame while keeping all the components of xtrada 7? So, medium frame of xtrada 6 with components of xtrada 7. Will there be any issues ?
How do you like the xtrada 7 compared to the san quentine 1? I’m torn between the two and it will be my first mtb. I’m still new and ride greens and blues in colorado. I do want improve my skills and eventually ride blacks
don't you Sell the OLD parts that you take out ?
NM, just missed the link!
Is this bike good for ppl over 300lbs?
Does the Xtrada use a tapered or straight steerer?
Mojo is my favorite!!!
Yeah it's a very nice shop! I'm found lurking in there quite a bit haha
@@CobraKyle I haven’t been lurking enough lately!
Hi! How you upgraded the rear with boost axle, original does not seems boost trough axle
Got this bike based on your rec and made some of the same upgrades. It looks great and is so fun to ride. Wondering if you think a 2.5 inch tire would be an issue? I'm still using the suntour fork.
That's awesome to hear! I never tried anything bigger than a 2.4. Suntour has a tire clearance chart I just looked up, and it says max size for the fork is 2.4. I imagine they just play it conservatively and a 2.5" would probably clear.
I’ve put a 2.5 Aggressor on 359 spank rims. Fits with some clearance left
Just ordered the bike are you using 29 or 27.5?
1:13 bro!! 🤣
What kind of fork should I search for that would fit this wheel? I keep hearing it’s “non boost” I don’t know what that means, except you can’t but just any fork?
Boost and non boost refer to the thru axle spacing. A non boost fork is 15x100 while a boost fork is 15x110. If you plan on running the stock wheels, you'll need a 15x100. I've heard of people running spacers and using a boost fork (makes up 5mm on each side of wheel) but I have never tried that personally. If that does work, then you could essentially buy any boost fork. Hope that helps!
Boost and non boost refer to the thru axle spacing. A non boost fork is 15x100 while a boost fork is 15x110. If you plan on running the stock wheels, you'll need a 15x100. I've heard of people running spacers and using a boost fork (makes up 5mm on each side of wheel) but I have never tried that personally. If that does work, then you could essentially buy any boost fork. Hope that helps!
Still have the stock fork on my xtrada 7, I've noticed it's leaving these fork oil rings where it compresses, is that normal?? Overall I'm happy enough with the fork but it's weird to see these rings
Mine did that too a bit. I ended up buying some stanchion lube to lubricate and clean the wiper seals, and that helped a little bit!
@@CobraKyle Thanks for the tip! I looked into this more and apparently this is more or less "normal"? The air fork still felt worlds better than what I had on the Xtrada 5 and generally this was a huge upgrade over the 5 so I may just keep riding as is unless it starts getting worse. I mean this was on the first ride of the bike so hopefully I wont have to mess with it too much in the beginning.
Gonna switch the mt200s for 4 piston deores or somthing?
Maybe down the line, but they work decent for now. I'm tired of spending money on this bike haha
how about 140mm fork for this frame?
Nice bike
I appreciate that!
Hello, I have a question about the Polygon Xtrada 7. What's the difference between the 2021model and the 2022model? i saw the specs but as a 12 year old mtb lover, I can'f find a difference so pls answer this question.
Hello! The only difference between the two is the paint job. Specs and geometry wise it's the same bike.
@@CobraKyle Thank you so much! I will get the 2021 version because I like the paint job better hehe.... I love ur vids kieep it up! I am not a subscriber yet but I will subscribe! Thank you so much! Btw which one do you like it more, the 2021 or thr 2022?
F**k! I live in Canada there is NO WAY that I can get it ALL the websites are only for US!
LOL the twig..... Air comes out sooooo fast
Niiiice!! 💯😁👍🏼
Thank you!
What is your height that you decided to go with an XL frame? im about to order a new bike and im right at the 6 foot mark which basically splits the reccomendation of a L or XL....?
I'm 6' tall with a 32" inseam. I went with XL based on the reach figures. I typically ride bikes with a reach between 470 - 480, and the XL was at 470. 450mm reach on the size Large seemed a bit too short for my liking.
@@CobraKyle thanks, i wish Polygon had some kind of semi local dealer support network...but for the money im saving i guess i will be doing any wrenching myself
@Cobrakyle Got this bike based on your recs and made some of the same upgrades. It looks great and is so fun to ride. Wondering if you think a 2.5 inch tire would be an issue? I'm still using the suntour fork.
@@CobraKyle Hi I am 6 tall with a 31 inseam. Do you think XL large works for my size?
5:37 wait, is there rust near suport?
I think it's just some dirt I missed. Impossible to keep a white bike looking spotless haha.
Most top end bikes are fitted with the MT200 brakes due to supply issues
Nothing wrong with MT200's at all. They work great!
No downhill fork!!? Highly disappointed lol
haha they didn't make one with enough travel for the shredding I intend to do!
Which grips and pedals are those?
Is the dropper lever the 22.2 mm?
Did You Know This Bike Made From Sidoarjo, Indonesia 🇮🇩 My Country
Very cool! Thanks for watching!
@@CobraKyle Welcome And Thank You For Using That Bike
You had this bike out lately?
Yeah a little bit! I got the Advent X drivetrain for this bike recently just cause I've been wanting to test it out. Now it weighs in the high 27 pound range. Pretty light and fast bike!
What size are those tires? Thanks
They are 29 x 2.4"
Sick
What size your dropper post?
27.2mm post and 125mm drop
180 mil travel!!!!!
I was hoping for 360mm of travel, but manufacturers just aren't that progressive yet.
Coooobraaaaa
Tssssssssss
What'ssssssss up Tim?!
@@CobraKyle lol
what size is that seat post clamp please
I got the Wolf Tooth clamp in the 31.8/32mm size.
@@CobraKyle ok thanks I ordered a 31.8!
What he didn’t tell you is that he had to change the headset because the Xtrada comes with a straight steerer fork in a tapered bottom bracket. He had to upgrade the headset so he could use his tapered manitou fork in the tapered head tube.. I just learned this the hard way. After dealing with numerous issues on my Xtrada I’m very disappointed that I didn’t buy a more reputable brand. The poor quality of the bike is apparent from the hubs to the headset. For 1000 dollars you get a higher quality bike elsewhere. Lower grade parts I can say that I would have been happier with a lower spec bike that was built properly..
Things that were wrong with my Xtrada:
advertised with Shimano brakes. Was delivered with tektro.
Bent rear wheel
Both wheels have inadequate spoke tension and need to have every spoke tightened and the wheels trued
Front hub completely bound up l. Required disassembly/repack
Rear wheel hub loose and low on grease. Required disassembly/repack
Brake disc bent on front wheel. Required straightening.
Headset loose, when I disassembled it expecting to repack/re assemble, I found a bent bearing cage and a straight steerer tube shimmed to run in a tapered tube… absolutely unacceptable in my eyes.
I’ll never buy anything from polygon again. Very disappointed.
The Xtrada 7 does come with a tapered fork. You must have the Xtrada 5 or 6 which does not have a tapered fork. I wouldn't knowingly mislead my audience in that manner. I upgraded the headset because I don't like the cheap loose ball bearing type of headsets and I liked the purple design...the exact reasons I stated in the video. Sorry to hear your experience with Polygon hasn't been positive. It sucks to get a new product and it shows up in less than stellar condition. I've been happy with mine and it showed up/worked as advertised. I hope you contacted either Polygon or the retailer you bought it from and shared that information as that should never be the standard for any bike company. I hope your next bike isn't as bad an experience.
@@CobraKyle you’re right it’s a 6, this bike can rip, Once my gripes got sorted, I really developed a bond with this bike. It’s a really capable bike with the addition of a proper rock shocks air fork…
A year later, already realizing this bike isn't even worth upgrading and needs to be swapped out for the Scott Scale 965. Same price (right now). Same group set with slightly better components. All of these upgrades would be easier because more compatible, or unnecessary. Also you get a dropper post and beefier tires. Less travel on the fork, but it's a speed demon and climber first and foremost. Geometry/specs are nearly identical except the major difference is significantly shorter stack height (speed and climbing).
Kyle: want taller bars.
Also Kyle: mounts new 25 mm bars 10mm lower than his 10mm rise bars
You crash. You have a bone sticking out. You yell at people coming, don't look at my down tube protector.
Nothing more shameful than my downtube protector. It will be mine (and the internet's) dirty little secret lol
That's crazy lol $3k might as well just buy a better bike.
I wish they wouldn’t use such feminine colors on their bikes. Otherwise there’s no other manufacturer that gives you soo much bang for your buck..
What size tires did you use?
29" x 2.4"