Welcome to my channel! I hope you enjoy this video. Please be sure to check out the entire series… each of the 5-videos covers a different aspect of Running Back greatness
Payton was amazing and may have been a HOF quarterback in today’s game. His talent on the field would still translate to success as a running back in today’s game. He was an absolute nightmare for defenses even on one demential and really bad Bears teams.
I am speechless You are the GOAT of analysts I love how you incorporated the eye test into all of your detailed analytics This is worthy of a PhD I’m not kidding Much respect, Steve
Perfect analysis, Payton is and has always been the GOAT. I like how you did it, you did not just watch his greatest plays. You watched every play. With that said, I would have loved to have seen what Bo Jackson would have done had he not had the hip injury and baseball to distract him. I would say he is one of the greatest athletes to ever play the game.
Agreed. For the eye test, and pure rushing, he was the best As you said… the injuries and splitting time with Baseball left him unable to really achieve anything
Couldn't have been easy compiling all this data. Well done While I'm a Browns fan, it's really difficult for me to argue that Walter Payton isn't the Greatest to ever play the position. Had it all (even when his teams didn't) and left it all on the field each and every play. I'm more of an "Eye Test" guy (that worst kind of critic I suppose 😂) It is nice to see some backs who don't get mentioned all that often get a little moment of spotlight. Chuck Foreman was ahead of his time when it came to versatility. Nice job on the series as a whole Cue the arguments
Based on this video series, it was razor thin The strength of the offenses that they carried was the fine line between them I can’t argue if you look at Brown as the GOAT… well, I could… I just released a 5 part video series on it 😜 But there are still factors out there that could be weighed
Of course he didn’t win it by himself. Video 4 takes a look at all the players level of help (QB Quality, O-Line Quality, Skill Position Quality). If you haven’t seen it, you might like to check it out
@@Says_me This video is the 1st time I've seen your channel. I can see how much work you put into it, but I still disagree with your opinion of Sanders. Not to worry, I gave it a Like & commented.
@@flyinhawaiian9174thanks… as I say in these videos. It’s “says me” that’s the best I can do. I respect your opinion👍 Have you watched all 5 videos? I hope you find them interesting, even if you see it differently
I like the method. I understand post-season performance is embedded in a couple categories, but don't think it is weighted enough. For a QB, it's a must to perform well in post season, but we let it slide for other positions. Payton didn't perform that well post-season. They finally won the SB with their D and balanced offense. For Brown, it is hard to take the 1950s NFL seriously, when players made 17K and audiences preferred college football. I just don't see serious competition. Also, Paul Brown still ran the offence, and there was a pretty good passing game. The Jim Brown era were the down years of Paul Brown, and some say Jim Brown ended Paul's career in CLE. Plus. he didn't block. I don't know who the best was. Maybe an analysis of best in a 3 yr span, 5 yr and 10. Campbell for 3 is all I can say.
Yeah… post season is tough to weigh in. Most top backs did so-so to poor in the post season (Brown, Payton, OJ - only 1 playoff, Sayers - never played in the post season, Sanders, LT, AP, and on-and-on) If I do a QB series, post season has to be factored in And I have been thinking about best single season or 3-yr apex peak. Campbell, OJ, Dickerson will likely rise up As for Payton’s post season… he did well in 79. 2 TDs, over 100 yscm… and an 85 yd TD run called back for illegal procedure (ugh) In 84, he had over 100 yds rushing and a 19 yd TD pass that was part of the game winning points Only 61 yds in the Super Bowl… but his gravity was undeniable. The Pats figured their only shot was to contain him. They did that… but got trounced
@@Says_me Interesting correlation between a team having the best running back and lack of post season success. I would argue that only 2 RBs carried a team in the SB (Czonka and Harris), and both against the same defense. But Campbell had bad weather or injury in AFC Championships.
@@jimstevenson424Harris, Csonka, Terrell Davis, Emmitt, and Riggins are the only backs that really delivered in the SB… but not all “carried” their teams All of them do have a SBMVP And then there is the Phoenix… Ottis Anderson. Rose to the occasion in 1990… 100 yds rushing, TD for game winning points, and the SBMVP
That’s cool. There is no denying his greatness. I might try a video looking at just rushing stats and attributes I imagine he’ll likely come out on top
@Says_me Now, just imagine if Barry was Cowboy and played behind the O-Line Emmitt had, is it safe to say he would've rushed for over 2,000 yards every season, and possibly a few 2500 yard season🤔
@@timotheewilliams9086well… I don’t think it would be quite that extreme (2k each season) but he would have had a high likelihood of doing much more. The same could be said for Payton, LT, Earl Campbell, and more This is also why I factored in IMPACT in video 4. To proportionately credit the backs relative to the strength of their offense and the opposition Not surprisingly, Emmitt rated poorly in that category because of the strength of his team… and Barry rated near the top Not surprisingly,
Welcome to my channel! I hope you enjoy this video. Please be sure to check out the entire series… each of the 5-videos covers a different aspect of Running Back greatness
I actually enjoyed the process of filtering down the top 40… making sure all eras and forgotten RBs get representation
Payton was amazing and may have been a HOF quarterback in today’s game. His talent on the field would still translate to success as a running back in today’s game. He was an absolute nightmare for defenses even on one demential and really bad Bears teams.
I am speechless
You are the GOAT of analysts
I love how you incorporated the eye test into all of your detailed analytics
This is worthy of a PhD I’m not kidding
Much respect,
Steve
Thank you my friend
It’s just something that had to be done😁
Let’s goooo
Perfect analysis, Payton is and has always been the GOAT. I like how you did it, you did not just watch his greatest plays. You watched every play. With that said, I would have loved to have seen what Bo Jackson would have done had he not had the hip injury and baseball to distract him. I would say he is one of the greatest athletes to ever play the game.
Agreed. For the eye test, and pure rushing, he was the best
As you said… the injuries and splitting time with Baseball left him unable to really achieve anything
Barry is my #1
Couldn't have been easy compiling all this data. Well done
While I'm a Browns fan, it's really difficult for me to argue that Walter Payton isn't the Greatest to ever play the position. Had it all (even when his teams didn't) and left it all on the field each and every play.
I'm more of an "Eye Test" guy (that worst kind of critic I suppose 😂)
It is nice to see some backs who don't get mentioned all that often get a little moment of spotlight. Chuck Foreman was ahead of his time when it came to versatility.
Nice job on the series as a whole
Cue the arguments
Based on this video series, it was razor thin
The strength of the offenses that they carried was the fine line between them
I can’t argue if you look at Brown as the GOAT… well, I could… I just released a 5 part video series on it 😜
But there are still factors out there that could be weighed
Barry was the Lions' offense. Payton didn't win a super bowl by himself.
Of course he didn’t win it by himself.
Video 4 takes a look at all the players level of help (QB Quality, O-Line Quality, Skill Position Quality). If you haven’t seen it, you might like to check it out
@@Says_me This video is the 1st time I've seen your channel. I can see how much work you put into it, but I still disagree with your opinion of Sanders. Not to worry, I gave it a Like & commented.
@@flyinhawaiian9174thanks… as I say in these videos. It’s “says me” that’s the best I can do. I respect your opinion👍
Have you watched all 5 videos? I hope you find them interesting, even if you see it differently
I like the method. I understand post-season performance is embedded in a couple categories, but don't think it is weighted enough. For a QB, it's a must to perform well in post season, but we let it slide for other positions. Payton didn't perform that well post-season. They finally won the SB with their D and balanced offense. For Brown, it is hard to take the 1950s NFL seriously, when players made 17K and audiences preferred college football. I just don't see serious competition. Also, Paul Brown still ran the offence, and there was a pretty good passing game. The Jim Brown era were the down years of Paul Brown, and some say Jim Brown ended Paul's career in CLE. Plus. he didn't block. I don't know who the best was. Maybe an analysis of best in a 3 yr span, 5 yr and 10. Campbell for 3 is all I can say.
Yeah… post season is tough to weigh in. Most top backs did so-so to poor in the post season (Brown, Payton, OJ - only 1 playoff, Sayers - never played in the post season, Sanders, LT, AP, and on-and-on)
If I do a QB series, post season has to be factored in
And I have been thinking about best single season or 3-yr apex peak. Campbell, OJ, Dickerson will likely rise up
As for Payton’s post season… he did well in 79. 2 TDs, over 100 yscm… and an 85 yd TD run called back for illegal procedure (ugh)
In 84, he had over 100 yds rushing and a 19 yd TD pass that was part of the game winning points
Only 61 yds in the Super Bowl… but his gravity was undeniable. The Pats figured their only shot was to contain him. They did that… but got trounced
@@Says_me Interesting correlation between a team having the best running back and lack of post season success. I would argue that only 2 RBs carried a team in the SB (Czonka and Harris), and both against the same defense. But Campbell had bad weather or injury in AFC Championships.
@@jimstevenson424Harris, Csonka, Terrell Davis, Emmitt, and Riggins are the only backs that really delivered in the SB… but not all “carried” their teams
All of them do have a SBMVP
And then there is the Phoenix… Ottis Anderson. Rose to the occasion in 1990… 100 yds rushing, TD for game winning points, and the SBMVP
I'll take Barry over anyone 👍
That’s cool. There is no denying his greatness. I might try a video looking at just rushing stats and attributes
I imagine he’ll likely come out on top
@Says_me
Now, just imagine if Barry was Cowboy and played behind the O-Line Emmitt had, is it safe to say he would've rushed for over 2,000 yards every season, and possibly a few 2500 yard season🤔
@@timotheewilliams9086well… I don’t think it would be quite that extreme (2k each season) but he would have had a high likelihood of doing much more.
The same could be said for Payton, LT, Earl Campbell, and more
This is also why I factored in IMPACT in video 4. To proportionately credit the backs relative to the strength of their offense and the opposition
Not surprisingly, Emmitt rated poorly in that category because of the strength of his team… and Barry rated near the top
Not surprisingly,