Biggest Geopolitical Border Problem - Northern Ireland's Border
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- The Only Border of Ireland (and the mainland border of the UK) is one of the frictionless in the world... right now. Here's why there are issues relating to it
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You just open a map and can make me listen for hours. Thank you
Glad you like the videos as much as I like making them :)
@@ibx2cat Stop waving your God dam hands around because it's so off putting. Then I might watch your video's right through to the end. Also I might subscribe to you if you
Stopped waving your hands about.
@@peterlyall2848 who cares tho?
"Every solution is offensive" - not sure why but that really made me laugh, really sums up the whole shitshow
First reply.
Bring on ze final solution!
lol yeah :-D
At least The republic gave the north the title of most East or should I say closest to the UK
I love that The Republic of Ireland is more north than Northern Ireland.
I suggest we start calling it Eastern Ireland instead.
More of NI is north than of RIRL.
All of Northern Ireland is south of some part of Ireland. Your argument also goes for calling it Eastern Ireland.
Sorta like how Virginia is more west than West Virginia
West Virginia is also one of the places most heavily settled by the Ulster British
Ulster Scots! Was it the highland or lowland Scots? After all Scotland was named after the Scotti, an Irish tribe!
Love how you pronounce Bus Éireann as bus Iran just imagine it’s spelt like Air-in
A few tricky pronunciations in this video, and I think this was the only slip up.
In lenster it's pronounced erin
Clones is pronounced clone-ess that’s the only other one I see
@@adamender9092 nope.
Yeah being from Ireland I was confused at what he even said
Then of course there's the people in NI who hold Irish citizenship and not UK citizenship under the Good Friday Agreement
Anyone born in the UK, including NI, is a British Citizen. In NI, that British citizen can later take Irish Citizenship and have dual-citizenship or they can renounce British Citizenship and be only Irish. And this was always the case before and after the Belfast Agreement.
@streetmuggedbypolice But the scot people who came over to the north to lord it over the indigenous people, are probably originally Irish themselves as the scot tribe was Irish. Even if they were not memebers of the scot tribe, lets say they were picts, they were still genetic brothers of the Irish. Its not like the northern people were native americans and people from Europe came. Pretty much every scottish person should have a right to live in Ireland, and vice versa. Same as England and wales they are genetic brothers, they should be able to go back and forth forever without one side saying "you dont belong". Because Irish/Scot/Pict/Welsh/Anglo we all have a common ancestor. The Anglo/Welsh are genetic cousins of the Irish/Scot/Picts We are all indegenous to to the islands, none of us are celtic or arrive later, we just been here since people could live here.
@streetmuggedbypolice I've been trying to get a British or Irish passport for my wife for 8 years, its not as easy as you think
Nope, born in NI = British, can take Irish passport later, must renounce British citizenship to be only irish... thats the law
@streetmuggedbypolice your ancestors the Celts colonised the entire Europe so you're not really indigenous to anywhere lol
"Split into 4 provinces that don't really mean much anymore" You've clearly never met an Irish rugby fan
Connacht all the way 😤💪😂
Hahaha
@@precision2190 Leinster
@@petermurphy9240 I also support Leinster
@@precision2190 yuuup
And the 🌏 and stuff
The 🗿 and stuff
🌍, not 🌏
@@plislegalineu3005 *🌎
@@XZ1. he talks about Europe here
@@plislegalineu3005 🗺
As an American who never hears any in depth discussion of foreign issues like this, I like hearing s regular persons opinion.
Its even for europeans very interesting. :)))
Is there something similar in the us? Im German and I would like to get such insight reports about the us regions.
Unfortunately the terms "American" and "in depth discussion" is a contradiction. It must be annoying for you.
@@ronaldderooij1774 They landed on moon "out there". So "in depth" is clearly not their strength. ;)
A lot of praise can actually be given to America and the Clinton administration for helping to end the troubles. They basically acted as a mediator between the two parties and convinced everyone to sit down and talk. Clinton considers it one his greatest achievement as President, but unfortunately it's buried under all those silly sex scandals. There should really be a statue of him (and his employee George J. Mitchell) in Belfast somewhere if there isn't.
But that is an us american problem. In EU noone would care about such things.
I was born in '86 and was too young to understand the full spectrum of what was happening in North Ireland, but I can tell you that word "Belfast" was synonymous to a bomb attack to us. It was a minor shock one day in geography class when I learned that Belfast was a city :P
Being from Northern Ireland I really expected this to be a trainwreck on par with every other time someone from "outside" tries to offer their opinion on our situation. But you gave a really good overview of the situation here and didn't fall into any of the traps that people usually do.
This should be required viewing for all politicians trying to negotiate the British/EU border situation.
To be honest I think you's should just unite with us
@@NeeloMack Ha! who's "us" Yung ?
@@peadarocolmain4850 The Republic of Ireland
@@NeeloMack same I’m from Ireland and I think we should unite
@@berniflood1427 with Britain
Yet another ex-girlfriend, Toycat?! Were they into half hour videos on one border? (Seriously, Toycat, half an hour on ONE border?!) :D
Are you sure there aren't any ToyKittens running around? :-)
*2cat
He has a girl in every town, village, city-state, municipality, peninsula, isthmus etc.
LOL! ToyCat goes up to every girl he sees and says: "Excuse me. May I come inside your border?"
@@banchnotok Nah the 2 is because this is his 2nd channel.
This is one of the most accurate (not 100%, in my estimation) and instructive explanations of the Ireland/UK border that I have seen or heard and is well worth viewing.
Thanks for the positive words. I'm always open to hear what people have to add or feel like they'd like to correct so please do let me know what you think wasn't quite 100% :)
28th of october will be 100 years from creation of Czechoslovakia. Will you please make video about Czechoslovakia or Czechia and Slovakia? You may also include other countries that were formed in 1918 from Austria-Hungary.
Fun fact, my grandad was at that base in Derry when it got raided by the IRA. He slept through the whole thing lol
hun. ira should have got him. tiocfaidh ar la
I want to see a video where you talk about the fact that more people live in a certain place than in the country of origin
More Irish people live in the USA than in Ireland
We're all living in America, America, America, America...
Irelelandish are mostly english today.
I'm of Armenian decent, and its estimated that there are 11 million Armenians in the world, and only 3 million live in Armenia. The Armenian diaspora is all over the place.
@@spiv Do you speak armenian language? Their writing looks wery interesting.
"The River didn't decide, it's not a sentient-being" *Pagan River Goddess *Winks** Lol your a good rambler :-D
Just a quick correction, healthcare is mostly free in Ireland. There are GP cost, prescriptions costs and certain hospitals charges but in general medical care is mostly free. You dont pay for surgery or hospital treatments for example. But you may have to pay an ambulance charge or for your bed in a hospital.... unless you earn below a certain a amount of money. Then everything is free. The confusion comes from the fact that Ireland has a two tier system where private hospitals exist and they generally give you faster treatment, access to private rooms etc and a perceived better standard of care (not sure how true that is though). This of course you must pay for.
In saying the no Irish person would disagree that the NHS is far superior to the Irish HSE and we are very jealous that we can't get or healthcare system together.
Those who have a Medical card can access free medical and hospital care. The medical card is given to people whose income falls below a certain level.
Let's be honest here, the only country in the first world without mostly/entirely free healthcare is the "great" country I come from, America...
@@HelenRoose yeah, instead it has high quality and speedy health care
@@siyacerUnless your insurance provider decides your illness is a money pit and they just renege on you (which they do _a lot,_ and that's assuming, of course, that you _have_ insurance in the first place.) Either that, or your consultant will do they'll do the exact opposite - because of that niggly pain in your side that you have, they'll subject you to every diagnostic test known to medical science, proven or unproven, invasive or otherwise, because "When it comes to _your_ health, why take chances? It's your right as an American, God~damn~it!!" By which, of course, they mean $$$'s! Never mind that the tests, statistically, may be liable to do you more harm than the disease they are looking for, which you most probably don't even _have!_ Or even if it turns out you _do_ have this condition, while simply keeping a 'watching brief' on it may be the best thing to do medically speaking, that isn't going to pay for the expensive suite of offices, the country club membership and the McMansion in one of your city's more fashionable neighbourhoods - much better that you undertake this regimen of medication which may have worse side effects than anything your condition is doing - or better yet, how about some _surgery?!!_
@@richiehoyt8487 it's been a year and I now realize the american healthcare system really is a joke, lol
It's called "Derry" because that's what it's original name is (or, rather, that's the Anglicised version of the original Gaelic name). The "London-" part was slapped on by Unionists because colonialism. I know you're trying (sort of) to be impartial, but when you tell about Irish history, if you do so simply stating that facts, it may make you sound like you're taking the side of the Irish, but that's only because the British are objectively the bad guys in this situation. It's not partisan, that's literally just how it is. You're attemptimg to sound impartial so hard that you are just straight up misrepresenting the facts.
Ireland was only called the Irish free state between the war of independance and becoming a republic.
Some call it that today though
@@ibx2cat really? I'm Irish and so this is news to me. How often do you hear it called that?
lizard ledgend I’ve also never heard it referred to as that. The state has only two official names, Ireland and Éire.
@@ibx2cat The only people who use the term "Free State" are members of hard line Republican groups like Republican Sinn Féin who refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the state. It is sometimes used as an insult by supporters of Northern Ireland GAA teams when playing teams from the Republic. The Free State ceased to exist in 1937.
@@lizardlegend42 They do, it's generally a term of abuse.
Ireland's nature is beautiful. 10/10 would recommend visit
As an Irishman that grew up on the Border (Co Louth) I found this interesting as fuk!
Liked and subbed
Bollox to Brexit!
4th worst county of all time
@@47eoghan47 4 worst grammar of all time
@@ThreeIrishMen 4th* idiot
Bus Eireann - bus aeyren .
Eireann is Ireland in Irish!
Great vid btw!
Maybe Bus Iran do run a Dublin to Belfast service
@@UTubeTulip But iranians are aryans and irish ar not.
Éireann is the genitive case of Éire.
The genitive case is used when talking about ownership or possession.
So basically when you would use 'of' in English, or when you would use 'Irish'
Bus Éireann: Irish Bus.
Dáil Éireann: Irish Assembly/Assembly of Ireland.
Poblacht na hÉireann: Republic of Ireland
Mná na hÉireann: Women of Ireland.
oh... I was scrolling through the comments and hadn't actually heard him butcher the pronunciation. :D
I'd love to see a video on biggest diasporas in the world. Ex-Yugoslav diasporas could make an hour long video on their own!
I think it's pretty stupid that nobody raised these points during the Brexit debate. This is one of the main reasons the EU was created in the first place, to avoid conflict around borders in Europe.
UK kind or ruined itself by leaving.
Scotland wants to leave now in order to join EU, North Ireland wants now to leave even more and Ireland, being an EU country, is also getting supported by EU. And from what I know, Wales don't want to remain either.
If was brought up repeatedly, but rather than argue why they weren’t true, they were put in the “project fear” bucket and dismissed
breaks leg 1 m away from NI
*desperately tries to crawl to NI for free health-care*
An Irish guy "Hey can we have the ambulance, someone broke their leg"
You: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU..."
The republic be gangster until someone gets heart disease
To answer the question at 8:40. you are using the newer boundaries rather than the older counties, Ulster had 9 counties and N Ireland went for only 6 to prevent an Irish majority in the old Ulster out voting them. There was also a border review that was never carried out, in which the border would have been amended to put people on the correct side of the border.
1:45 toycat narrowly escaping carb bombing
Toycat: **ten minutes of explaining**"And that is how it changed from a border between counties to a border between countries"
Me: "They just added an r"
It’s a British Border in Ireland. The Irish Border is the beach
Already starting the controversy are we? haha
But shouldmt most of South Ireland be part of Englands UK anyway as today most Irish are english people in hearth and soul (Englands language as their native one).
No, I don't know your knowledge or if your trolling but most Irish hate British culture(or perhaps just its origin) and have had many times tried to de-anglicize the culture of Ireland as we aren't too fond of it, many dislike how it was forced on us.
@streetmuggedbypolice Sory guys I knew this woill offend you but I just want you irish to get your language back and remember you are celts not latinized germanics that the english are.
Esperanto should be the international language so the english people wouldnt have the highground on culture and other influence on others.
Someone's been watching Dara O Briain
Nice video, and I can see why you're cautious about committing to a position given the controversial nature of the topic. However, I see you're doing a fair bit of tap dancing around the gerrymandering of the border in its inclusion of counties with a majority nationalist vote - I didn't realise this was controversial but let's be clear; they didn't include them to "make things simpler", they tried to include as much territory as possible whilst just about maintaining a unionist majority, that is unequivocally why they did that.
The Good Friday agreement was truly a beautiful peace treaty. If only all conflicts could be resolved with something so fair and reasonable.
What was your alternative? Continued violence and enforcement of social division? Because that's a solution that'll only work if you can completely eradicate your opponent. The Good Friday Agreement ensures that Northern Ireland will eventually join the rest of the country when the people that actually live there desire it, which will eventually happen precisely because it is peaceful (well, assuming Brexit doesn't go and fuck up the equilibrium).
@transylvanian What do you do with the Unionists who don't want to join the Republic of Ireland? Do you force them? Like you claim the British are forcing you?
@@Ash-hk6lh The GFA sets out that a referendum in NI and the Republic will decide this issue of a united Ireland. At the moment opinion in NI is drawn almost 50/50 on the issue.
@Straight White British Protestant It was the price to be paid for a problem all parties to the GFA, including the British authorities, contributed to. It largely stopped the violence. It wasn't a betrayal, it was a brave step all involved took to give ordenary people the peace they deserve.
@Straight White British Protestant I respect everyone's right to a point of view, but I would have to disagree with you there very strongly. I have no reason to doubt you when you say that you are a peace loving person but your position aligns you with some pretty dangerous people. The GFA was unanimously endorsed by the NI electorate, a great many of whom DID lose people during the Troubles..
Finally a video from My Country
Edit; OMG he just summarised my last year of History
Also for those of you wondering I.P.P is called Irish Parliamentary Party
TechDude032 Oh thanks I was wondering what that stood for
You mentioned there is no official border on Lough Foyle, that is also the case on Carlingford Lough, where you started, which has a de facto border down the middle. This is because county borders stopped at the sea and when the Irish Free state was formed, no agreement was made on where the border goes. Which wasn't such a big deal since the Free State was a dominion of the U.K. The Foyle is more complicated since the navigation channel ships pass through, is on the Irish side, meaning official permission would be needed for the Royal Navy to enter the lough, were the border to be drawn down the middle. Therefore the U.K claims the whole lough, while Ireland claims half of it. Although when the Free State was formed they claimed the whole thing as well. When Ireland became a republic in 1937, a lack of international borders tecnically mattered but was basically ignored since Ireland had no bargaining power in a potential treaty negotiation. This basically became irrelevant when both countries joined the then EEC on the same day in 1972.
Since the Belfast agreement, the two lough's are coverved by one of the six All-Ireland Implementation bodies that cover the "- Foyle, Carlingford and Irish Lights Commission: The management and development of Lough Foyle and Carlingford Lough and coastal lights through two separate agencies, the Loughs Agency and Lights Agency."
Now Ireland is in a club of with 27 mates, while the U.K is striking out on its own, causing the power balance to shift. The EU, as a rules-based organisation, is a stickler for things like borders because of the common market and after almost one hundred years of letting things slide, the new nature of the border must be set down in a legally binding agreement. Although I haven't seen any mention of the border on the two loughs in the Brexit talks and I suspect will not be solved in the near future.
On why the old county borders where kept, part of the deal around the formation of the Free State was a border commision to redraw the border, and it was presumed by the Dublin government that the border would be redrawn to put Irish/Nationalist's/Catholic's out of N.I. It turned out that the supposedly neutral person in the commission was pro-British and in the end, their report was swept under the carpet, because the Free State would gain little and loose land to N.I.
Why didn’t they call Northern Ireland “Northeastern Ireland”? Would be more accurate
The original name for the Republic on official British documents relating to the partition proposals was Southern Ireland, It then became the Irish Free State in 1922 and Eire later on and then the Republic of Ireland. Northern ireland was also formed in 1922 with a separate parliament in Belfast.
Because they are greedy
Ireland should reunify
Ireland for the Irish!
Bo Sheek - Ireland needs to leave the EU if they really want self rule.
Ireland should leave the fourth rei... I mean, the EU. And then, reunify, only then they would acquire true sovereignty
Josh MHO Ireland doesn't need to follow what the uk does
Yes reunify with the UK like in the old days.
Ireland is just like kurdistan, an illegal country. The only reason it's allowed to exist is because they were so horrible that the UK had to remove them for the safety of the empire and the whole world
Hey ibx2cat, I like your videos and I'd like to recommend you make a video about the national borders on the Balkans (in particular the border between Serbia and Croatia). I'm from Serbia and I'm appassionate about national borders and I'd be glad to assist you should you happen to decide to make a video about the borders on the Balkans, which are very interesting and complex and I'm sure you'd have a lot of material to talk about.
Yea
england has such a disconnect with NI, i watched an episode of the chase and the question came up what is the capital of NI? all contestants answered Dublin. If its the UK how come the English have no idea of the basics.
I (and many others) are taught in school that it's Belfast. There are people who wouldn't even know the capital of Wales or England, too
@@ibx2cat I can't remember being taught that in UK school, but hay maybe I just forgot. Though I did know that Belfast was the capital of NI before this video.
It's not the English that have no idea of the basics it's just those few contestants that happened to be on a gameshow. They could just be a bit thick, but nerves also play a factor.
different countries across the road are weird to me I live in Australia, the border is the ocean lol
It's fun to stand on one side and piss into the other. You're missing out
@@craigharkins4669 haha couldn't do that any way im a female but even if i could state boarder is like 10 hours away
Your wrong. The flag of Ulster is yellow and red. The flag you shown is a unionist flag.
15:25 is the place I went to beat minecraft in 2 countries at once, just realised lol.
You can’t justify the border and talk about Irish history without talking about the brutal violence and oppression from the English
U can cause it's not really that relevant anymore
stephenwhosl it ended this recently
James Kennedy if you mention that then surely you should mention the attacks from the IRA on innocent people ?
THIS is why Europe can't have nice things..
Samuel Quintin IRONY
From what I understand the history of Ireland and Northern Ireland is even touchier than what has happened here in Germany. It's still like there is a border right in the middle of our country in some people's heads and you will get hate for simply being born on one or the other side of the country. We never had such a bloody history but damn the hate is still real.
I think the only difference between here and Germany, whether you’re speaking about German partition or the Holocaust was that most Germans can agree in hindsight that both were bad things and therefore mostly you move on with your lives and while there’s still some bad blood you don’t have your political parties based on that divide within German people. That and there is a literal border not only a mental one in Ireland and between communities in Northern Ireland and more like Germany to a lesser extent in the south
Oh, this can be solved quite easily
UK continues the ID requirement for crossing between GB and NI, and about 10% of all non-UK citizens are processed for crossing an international border when crossing between GB and NI
Eireland and NI put up customs posts along their effective borders, a so called hard border, BUT
- all NI citizens get a new RFID card, which is scanned when approaching the border facilitating an open boarder for them
- there are no customs checks for EU citizens crossing into NI
Though about 1% of all cars and people crossing the NI/Irish border gets checked
UK poilitics dont want to, under any circumstance, give up any authority over northern ireland. This would theoretically be the best solution but is sadly not possible in current political reality.
@@rootshelldev no, UK politics couldnt really care less... Tories cannot sign a cheque without DUP so have to suffer their demands or find a new coalition.
Yeah Ped is right, it isnt the Torrys calling the shots over NI its the DUP because if May does something the DUP are against she can kiss her majority goodbye and essentially fuck over the entire government
None of this would be a problem if May didn't go into a coalition with the DUP. The DUP is the entire reason there is a problem with the northern Ireland border. If the DUP wasn't in government then the UK could go back to the way they forgot Northern Ireland exists like they had do for decades.
I used to live on the US-Mex border when it was so easy to cross back and forth ... ugh ... now it's just such a pain (depending on locations for sure) but yeah it's not as easy as it was before. I only mention this because I can imagine a worse situation between a Brexited UK +NI border with the Republic of Ireland ... but maybe it won't be as I imagine? I'm watching this from within "the belly of the beast" (middle of the USA) (just having the craic)
Well done! An excellent demonstration of why the Irish border is not like the City of London boroughs. Boris are you paying attention!
My understanding that in 2019 Northern Ireland became majority Catholic.
I would suggest waiting until the 2021 Northern Irish census is published
@@beaglaoich4418 Wait for what ?
@@texasborn2720 the census where people report their religion and ethnic identity that will confirm what is speculated to be a Catholic plurality in the past few years.
The data is being compiled at the minute but it is expected that there should be a greater amount of Catholics than Protestants by then
:^) Kosovo is Serbia Ulster is Ireland
LOL
Bus Iran?
Its pronounced with a e
This is the reason why celts were confused with aryans by germans in 1800 and they thought that all indo-euro is aryans. Even thought it was later revieled that irish and aryan names for themselves were not related.
TealTherapsid Aryan doesn't sound like Eireann anyway, only if you butcher to pronunciation
@@lochlainnw Yes, Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Tajikistan and North India is not same as Ireland, Cymru (Wales), Gaeli-Scotland or Bretonia.
Germans fucked up back then and Hitler fucked up even more when he discriminated gypsies who are true aryans, and even if he went with all indo-eu being aryan, including germans. Then slavs would have been also aryan...
I’m from Ireland and I think the teachers in our schools should play this during history class
I dont
From a irish person : You're Bang on point and if everyone was as educated on the matter brexit would never of happened
"... would never HAVE happened." Sorry, I know, I'm an old bastard....
I'm not sure how much the Northern Ireland border issue was mentioned during the brexit campaign, but it certainly should have been mentioned.
A bit of information: all the territorial waters belong to the Republic. Lough Foyle is part of the Republic but they are afraid to resurrect the conflict. The territorial waters were left to Ireland after the Government of Ireland Act and the Anglo Irish Treaty. They are trying to hide this fact but it cannot be done.
You said ireland doesn't have free health care we do it's just so shit no one uses it
I love your videos but I have to play them on 0.75 speed. Lol.
“There is no Irish border, only a British border in Ireland”
But isent Ierelandija british? They speak Englands language as nativ so they are english people in hearth and soul that England needs to protect.
TurkoosiTerapsidi how brain dead are you
@@turkoositerapsidi jaysus christ were not British we only speak English bc the British invaded us but we fought back and won back most of the island just keep ur mouth shut when u dont know the whole story it can offend us
@@Sean-fu1nw Älä suutu. 😊 Meri Christmes Irelandia!
The important thing to know about the border is that it was a new border created specifically in order to produce an artificial majority for a group that was in fact a small minority in the country. The British added and subtracted specific areas in order to arrive at an entity that would stay in the UK and enable the new artificially created unionist majority to continue ruling without needing any support or consent from the Catholic population. This resulted in the continued denial of rights to the Catholic minority which led to the "Troubles".
Exactly right.
It’s not like the English ‘compromise’ on the border stopped a Civil War in Ireland . A civil war still happened in Ireland about the pro-treaty (Michael Collins) and anti-treaty (Eamon de Valera)
Stopped one of them XD
As an American, looking at the scenery of the island of Ireland makes me feel like I'm in a Tolkien movie (even though LOTR was filmed in New Zealand). I just want to find a hole in a grassy knoll and and curl up.
Sorry but you made that old mistake of calling the six-counties Ulster. It's not Ulster, the six-counties are only a part of Ulster, so calling it Ulster suggests it is a province on its own when it is not. There are nine counties in Ulster and but people in Ulster do not tend to call themselves Ulstermen or women. The ones who more often use that term are those people who regard themselves as settlers, the unionists or planters, descendants of British planters. They call themselves Ulstermen to try to somehow make out Ulster is somehow not just Ireland. The language of British colonialism in Ireland is maintained in British media and in their education system where most people in Britain know absolutely nothing about Ireland and many actually believe Britain owns Ireland. This is rather insulting to Irish people but it continues.
Personally as an Ulsterman and Irish nationalist I’ve tried to reclaim the term because I think there is some uniqueness to each of the provinces of Ireland, though I believe all are Irish.
I think the ancient kingdoms of Ulster from which we have many myths and stories are something that we can and should embrace on a cultural and national level and shucks it makes for good tourism as well so least profiteer on it like most of the Scandi’s Italians, Chinese and Greeks on their own mythology
But all of NI is within Ulster.. 3:58
The unionists in Dublin were the children of idle Irish landowners afraid of losing their privileged status.
I am from Ireland so I see Irish maps a lot in school and I have to say
*wtf why is down[ a county ] called down if it's in the north like it is up not down what is this madness*
From Wikipedia:
County Down takes its name from dún, the Irish word for dun or fort, which is a common root in Gaelic place names (such as Dundee, Dunfermline and Dumbarton in Scotland and Donegal and Dundalk in Ireland).[6] The fort in question was in the historic town of Downpatrick, originally known as Dún Lethglaise ("fort of the green side" or "fort of the two broken fetters").
On the subject of Muff, they have a distillery that produces the marvellous Muff Liqour. Check ot out 😉
We have a water border issue still on the extreme northeast of the Netherlands with Germany that is unsolved. It is kind of hilarious. The Germans erect wind turbines on Dutch (?) seabed. There is some international incident, but I did not hear about it anymore. I think those windturbines were not built there eventually. Also the ships beacons get very well maintained. In an endless cycle, the Dutch paint them in Dutch colors, and then the Germans paint them in German colors. And then the Dutch see that, and say: Those are not the right colors, and repaint them, etc. Potentially it is serious, as two German harbor outlets are Dutch (according to the Dutch) and one Dutch harbour outlet is German (according to Germany). Ah, well... The conflict predates both countries. It goes back to the Middle Ages when that all was land. That was clear, but suddenly the sea came in in a flood and nobody can prove where the border was (it used to be some small river).
One of the many reasons why / how the EU brought peace to our blood soaked continent. Conflicts like this loose relevance in a union.
I actually like the way you comment on how it is now. Facts are cool things. Also - yeah, there are A LOT of us over here (in the US), who are Scots-Irish/Ulster Scots descendants - I'm one. It seems like very other person I meet is one lol. I know my 3rd and 4th great grandparents had a pile of kids (particularly my 3rd great grandfather lol - pretty sure he's left DNA in both continents). Prolific breeders, that bunch. Big families mean tons of descendants. So, here we are :).
I am from the north of Ireland I'm Irish I am not British and I want independence from the uk
I like it when you offend people, it’s one my favourite parts of your videos
Especially when he says that he doesn't want to offend anyone. LOL
The UK has two other land borders with the EU: Gibraltar and Cyprus. Fun fact: Akrotiri & Dhekelia in Cyprus is the only British territory where the Euro is the official currency.
Xaver Lustig wrong the RAF got a air base
The UK government agreed to the 'backstop' in December 2017, which is to say that a hard border cannot be allowed between Ireland and Northern Ireland. But if Northern Ireland is outside the single market and customs union then WTO rules require border checks. So there is literally a paradox. Meanwhile Brexit threatens great economic damage to both Ireland and Northern Ireland due to trade barriers. It's one thing for the UK to vote to economically harm itself, but it's even worse when you consider that we're causing economic harm to people in other countries who never had a say in the matter. There is still a way out of this - if Parliament is deadlocked and a no-deal Brexit is on the cards (as currently seems likely), the choice should be given back to the British people to find out what kind of Brexit they actually want - including the option of no Brexit, if people feel that the deals on offer don't live up to what they were promised in the original referendum campaign. There is a march in London on Saturday 20th October to call for such a vote.
BUS IRAN😂😂 sorry toycat “ayy-ren”
20:54 You say that the U.K has free healthcare and the Rep. Ireland does not. This is not true, both countries have free public health care, funded through taxation.
Edit: I made a mistake, I was wrong.
Not true. Healthcare is only free for unemployed, kids etc. If you use the ambulance service (even if you didnt call them) you will be charged €100. Same if you go to accident & emergency. Look up "medical card HSE".
However, the British NHS is generally considered to be better than the Irish HSE.
Ped Clarke Thanks for clearing up the misconception I had mistakenly thought it applied to all.
Every country has a form of free healthcare for some of their citizens, countries like the UK and Canada are unique because it is universal (applies to everyone)
@@ibx2cat The Irish health care system does differ from the British system in that its not fully universal (though there are many "ways around" if you know the system)The government is slowly moving towards a "universally affordable" health care system called Sláintecare, so contributions would be based on your means to pay and not a two tier public/private standard. I think that's a good idea and a fair model to adopt. The country already spends nearly €20 billion a year on health for a nation of around 5 million people.
It has to be balanced with the fact that the Irish education system is practically free compared to the UK so its apples and oranges.
When travelling along the A30 from Shaftesbury ( New Forest before that ) to watch Yeovil Town play at home , my dear elder brother couldn’t get his head around why at one point we found ourselves in Dorset then Somerset then Dorset then Somerset. If I wasn’t driving , I would’ve scribbled down a rough map to show how this can easily happen ! He’s not entirely to blame for not noticing this concept as the south western border between Dorset and Hampshire where we live probably only signposts the border at 60 % of the crossings ( Walkford Rd railway border un - signed for example. ) And at Roeshot Hill on the A35 I believe the Regional Border should be recognised instead of the cringingly tourism themed “ welcome to Dorset - home of the Jurassic Coast.” . Thanks chap , my fascination with boundaries etc started at 7 yrs old in 1971....love from wessexshire
Yep, there are so MANY more people of Irish and/or Northern Irish descent in the U.S. Ditto for Norwegians and several other nationalities. About the same number of Jewish people in the U.S. as in Israel, too.
I think Northern Irish would count as British ancestry as the Northerners are from British people only 400 years ago.
The very last statement in your thoughtful piece is what is known in Republican circles as the partitionist mentality. Even life-time residents of both political arrangements get into trouble for calling the two Irelands countries. They are seen as temporary arrangements by a lot of Republicans. There is also a tendency for Unionists to refer pointedly to the Dublin government as a foreign government knowing that by doing so they will upset the sensitivities of the Nationalist community who regard the entire Island as their homeland. The language used by both sides is interesting: Mainstream Irish media refer to Britain and Ireland as "these islands" or, rarely, the North Atlantic Islands but never the British Isles. Mainstream British media still use Eire for the republic but this was changed in 1937. The Good Friday Agreement is called the Belfast Agreement by those of a Unionist persuasion and their supporters in Britain. Our government leader is known locally as the Taoiseach ( Tee-Shock) but some British commentators refer to him as the Prime Minister, an English usage not applied in common use in Ireland. While most Irish residents regard such usages as a minor quirk other residents of a more extreme political stance can view them as deliberate insults and get annoyed by them.
Actually there is an inherent insult within using “Eire” as opposed to Éire. Since one is the actual official title of the country and one isn’t.
It’s part of a notion of intentionally usually especially those who use it now to misspell the name of the country and avoid referring to the 26 county republic as Ireland.
Usually the only people I’ve found to use it are older people from the U.K. (which makes sense and understandable it would’ve been more common for people to conflate Ireland and Éire at the time, like some older people with renamed countries elsewhere; Zaire, Burma, Rhodesia, Persia).
Though there’s another set of much younger people that explicitly refer to the word “Eire” when it’s not something they would’ve heard from family and friends but is a conscious attempt to not recognise the RoI, with Ireland being the offending article since it is seen as inaccurate or revanchist in nature.
These people tend to be of unionist persuasion as I’ve never met one who wasn’t ardent unionist usually with an associated image of a badge emblem or symbol associated with said organisations of this background or country.
Using Prime Minister instead of Taoiseach is perfectly understandable as that is the term expressly used in all other parliamentary democracies to refer to the person in charge. But in fairness for the counter argument there, most of the time Merkel has been referred to as the Chancellor of Germany and not Prime Minister while functionally the roles being equivalent with chancellor having more powers. But I digress in general most leaders in Europe’s titles are simplified to be more comprehensible to foreign audiences and all nations engage in this.
The British Isles is another aul quirk that depending on how it’s used is either an unfortunate happenstance or an intentional attempt to draw logical conclusions by our association with this word. I’ve met people that again try to say we’re all one British people of the British Isles and in that context it’s hard not to take issue with the term.
I don’t think you’ve to be radical to take issue with your terms but how you respond to it does show your nature, radical moderate or otherwise
Long story short one group will be disappointed and it will probably be the smallest: The unionist Irish.
Smallest group in one province only.
I think high school musical comes to mind with “stick to the status quo” hahahaha
I live in the northern ireland
Don't forget the future border between the UK and Scotland.
There will be no UK then.
How about a video on the lack of border between Guatemala and the ex colony or usurped territory of Belize. If you look at Google maps there is no border. The Hague will deal with this issue soon I believe.
Im from northern Ireland County Down
I'm from the Republic of Ireland, county Donegal.
You got it the wrong way round.
All of Northern Ireland is in Ulster, but not all of Ulster is in Northern Ireland. (2 of the counties are in Southern Ireland)
Also at 30.07 u said the Unionists are Catholics. XD
*3 of the counties of Ulster are in the RoI
I agree that this is one of the most important geopolitical issues of our times, but not that it's the number one issue. That _has_ to be Israel vs. Palestine.
Hi Koori. I am an Irish person who lives in Israel/Palestine. Every time we enter the Palestinian Territories I tell my kids we are no longer in Israel and are entering Palestine. They were confused the first few times, asking where is the border, where are the Palestinians etc. I remind them never to normalise entering the territory of another state, even is that state is unable to display and deploy the normal symbols of sovreignety because of occupation. Similarly the very occasional time we enter the Golan Heights I remind them that it is territory stolen from Syria. I will not allow normalisation to hide the fact of occupation. I learned this because of crossing the artificially imposed border in Ireland many times.
Fun Fact. 3 years ago I was back in Ireland with my kids. We travelled up to the north western county of Donegal (in the Republic_ form Dublin, which meant traversing the artificial border. Upon re-entering the Republic, at the town of Lifford, the first thing we saw was an enormous Palestinian flag flying from a public flagpole. That really confused my kids :-)
"Israel and Palistine- a situation so complicated that just talking about it could make it worse!" ;-)
KooriShukuen What about North and South Korea?
Funny how they call what was essentially a civil war "the troubles". So British. Also, geez, how many girlfriends has toycat had? 😂
It’s not actually a British thing, it’s more an Irish thing.
What everyone else calls World War II, we called “The Emergency”, what everyone calls the Irish (Potato) Famine we called “The Great Hunger”
1. This is about the most facile and irritating posts on the subject I have ever seen. It makes no mention nor background of the protagonists on all sides (not even their names) in the negotiation of the border in and around 1921: nor why Cavan, Monaghan & Donegal went one way but Fermanagh and Tyrone the other. It makes no mention of the boundary commission set up at the time, still less its participants, lengthy deliberations, and why it came to naught. The research carried out in the subject is perfunctory in the extreme and insulting to anyone wanting anything in any depth at all.
2. He cannot even pronounce correctly Clones (‘Clow-ness’) and appears blissfully unaware that Belleek is in fact a single town straddling the border. He has plainly not even taken the trouble to visit either.
3. And as for implying that border anomalies like this are semehow unique to Ireland he obviously has made no detailed study of the exclaves elsewhere in Western Europe:, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and Switzerland alone: Llivia, Baarle-Hertog, the Vennbahn and so on, stoill less tnb the rest of the world.
4, He needs to stop waving his arms around like a demented dervish and get off his backside and do some serious research.
I don't really notice the switch from north to south when driving across the border. The only noticeable thing is the vehicle toll bridges.
Northern Ireland is one of my favourite fantasy realms!
Owen Lewis-Buchanan it's ireland
Is it really? I've been living in a fantasy realm my whole life wow
@BD Xer0 Wow that's awesome! :D
@Michael Halligan reality asserted itself in 1921
The city is called Derry 😉
@Liam C I know not the correct spelling, just the name. I can't help being an Anglo-Saxon 😇
It's Londonderry.
Liam C it’s LondonDerry
@@immortaltyrant2474D e r r y
This is a turning point for Britain it won't be called the United Kingdom anymore as Scotland will soon be Independent, N Ireland will soon join Ireland so Wales and England will have to be called rUK (rest of the UK) or little Britain.
i love the irony of the island being divided to prevent a civil war & the next thing to happen was a civil war a few years later. and a second one in the north around 40 years later. fuck the history of the wee country i live in is fun.
Edit: also there is a flag of ulster which has orange on it used for the province in the republic. & slight differences with symbols.
Edit 2: i don't like hearing londonderry derry. it should be said derry londonderry (the usal way i hear it) i am not picking no fights just sounds wierd in that order.
This DUDE Just used Indian Flag on Ireland. CRINGEE. they are your neighbors man.
:30 seconds in and already you have made a mistake about Ireland
why we let Gerry Adams live i dont know...
Lets answer the fucking question truthfully about why they where drawn where they were? To gerrymander
an undemocratic border that could not exist without being proped up by the british government and the city of london
Really simple solution. The UK should just leave our island there's a big Island to the east for anyone that doesn't like it
33:05 hopefully I come across this video as I binge through all of them.
17:35 it's because of clouds or fog. It was cloudy or foggy when the base layer was shot.
The towns were shot at a different time so they're fine.
If you move away from that area you'll se that the blur goes away
No it's old photos. The town photos have been redone recently as they are more important and have changed more. The land on the right was N.Ireland which was probably done more recently.
He forgot to mention the Irish War of Independence and the Irish Civil War.
I propose we just give Northern Ireland to the USA
I'm half Irish by blood, yet my grandparents are all from the city I am
3:54 it's actually most of Ulster is in northern Ireland.