The thesis that the cruise missile is what killed the dreadnaught rather than the aircraft carrier is 100% correct and you deserve an award for this alone.
That said, what made the battleship itself obsolete _was_ aircraft - battleships and their massive guns existed for the express purpose of providing stand-off advantage, but 10-20,000-yard range guns are insignificant next to several-hundred-mile-range aircraft. What the anti-ship cruise missile did was render the notion of guns as primary weapons and armoured flanks obsolete, including for cruisers.
@@alexv3357The point is that the Aircraft itself weren’t the primary killers of the battleship, while they were able to damage or even get a Mission kill, it was still the Primary armament of a battleship that was able to kill it. Aircraft carriers enhanced the capabilities of a fleet in a peer to peer engagement, but weren’t the main reason, otherwise we would have seen the Aircraft carrier replace the battleship overnight. The Japanese still used their carriers for fire support even when they were used for ferrying aircraft.
I am a retired USN Surface Warfare Officer. For three years, I was a Naval Sea Systems Command missile test officer. We lived and breathed air defense against the cruise and high diver supersonic missile threat. Your presentation is amazingly accurate and superbly constructed. Your assessments of the relative capabilities and limitations of each system, both offensive threat and defensive systems are very accurate. I salute you Sir. Very well done! Bravo Zulu!
Sir, firstly let me thank you for your service. I'm a retired British Army Senior NCO, my 22 year career covered the end of the Cold War and a handful of years afterwards. My question to you concerns Red Storm Rising. It was required reading for my unit and I was wondering if it was the same for you given your role. After almost two decades studying Warsaw Pact (WP) tactics, doctrine and various details of enemy SOPs. As well as familiarisation with the West German terrain etc. All the things a professional soldier and student of Sun Tzu would be expected to do. The USSR and WP disintegrated before my eyes, and poof! We were deployed to the Middle East, to prepare for war with Iraq in a totally alien desert environment. The life of a soldier SNAFU.
Huh. Surprised you didn't correct them about the whole "man-in-the-loop" fire command authority used to operate the Phalanx CIWS - unless that threat follows the parameters of an anti-ship missile.
2 hours, 16 minutes and 21 seconds and not a single ''like, subscribe and comment''. What an amazing video, I enjoyed it very much. Thank you very much.
The very best do not have to grovel for subscriptions or likes, they earn them automatically because of the amazing quality and accuracy of their content.
then again, i dont mind link and share reminders, the content is free after all. what i do not like is exclusive premium content that only people who can afford it have access to. youtubers deserve to make money from google for us watching videos on their website, like reminders help sometimes
Your stuff is simply Rolls Royce. Just a cut above everything else. For minds that want well researched, well reasoned and well articulated explanations of complex topics… you have the throne. Chapeau 🎩!
I'm stunned by the quality of the information and presentation of information you always manage. You deserve success. The work you all are doing is impressive. Brilliant and inspiring. There are professionals in the industry of deterrence who have seen your presentations that have been floored. Be proud. You've been heard. We will applaud anything you create. You are inspiring and informing.
@@elektrotehnik94 I was thinking the exact same thing! I was wondering if it was just me that was thinking the level of quality in this video I'm from the other guys you mentioned it's just a cut above the rest. I mean seriously better, don't you think?
This is the first time I've been significantly intrigued by Naval Warfare of any kind and my goodness I believe you've shown me the error of my ways! I suspect I will appreciate much more naval history now thanks to this very engrossing video! God bless your diligence and hard work! Love from Iowa
I was the same until i read Red Storm Rising a couple months ago, somehow made me realize naval and sub warfare, while not as cool as air warfare, may be as interesting.
@@Frenulem Old thread, but my early gateway to interest in naval war/history was via a bit more of an abstracted SciFi take, the Honor Harrington books. They’re inspired loosely from the Horatio Hornblower stories, and like those the Harrington books draw a lot of historical interpretation from Lord Admiral Nelson. The space battles are set up to act much like age of sail into early dreadnaught style tactics, worth a check for a lot of the same reasons as Clancy books.
I am always impressed by the level of detail you go into regarding whatever subject matter you are presently discussing. So much so, that, I have learned to wait to watch your videos until such time that I am sure to be free from distraction or interruption for at least 2 hours. As a married man with children and pets, those moments do not come often and are treasured. The fact that my activity of choice during those precious periods of time is to enjoy and mentally download the wealth of information you provide is probably the highest compliment I can pay a content creator. You are a master of your craft. Thank you for your diligence!
I haven't watched this yet but oh man am I excited, two hours about anti ship cruise missiles in the content I unironically crave, I wish we had more people like you on TH-cam.
Hey mate, great to see yet another video! I think I speak for everyone when I say I really enjoy these in-depth historical biographies on weapon systems and military history. Thank you! Also would you think about doing any live stream Q&As? I heard you mention that would be a possibility in one of your tiktokers Q&A videos and I want to say that would be great. Anyway, really thank you for the videos, they are really great and quite unique in that there isn't much like this (at least this in depth). Have a good day man!
I just want you to know that you're very good at this kind of presentation. I have interest in your content but I can't listen to someone go on about a specific class of missile for two hours unless they've really put the presentation together correctly. This is a very good product and you should be proud.
I love red storm rising, you just made me re read the whole scene again with the backfires. However, I’d argue the genesis of the anti ship missile is the ASM-2 bat, which was a radar guided fire and forget munition deployed before the the fritz X and used for far longer than it after the war.
Hs-293 would honestly be the better example of the very first ASCM, being rocket boosted, it has longer range than the Fritz-X, and in terms of usage, it saw even more widespread use than Fritz-X Also fun fact, Imperial Germany has developed gliding bombs even back in WW1, dropped from an Airship
I think red storm rising gets it wrong, because at the time a very important part of the escort ships duty was to intercept missiles. While we have weapons able to intercept asms out to there launch range of 200nm today, even in the 80s the destroyers would have been firing standard missiles intercepting weapons from at least 75nm out. Once they closed to 10nm the sea sparrow launchers equiped on the multiple destroyers would have taken out multiple missiles, with each destroyer carrying at least 8 in a box launcher. Then at 5nm 127mm and 76mm radar guided airburst shells would be engaging missiles. Then at 2nm and closing last ditch defences would have opened up like phalanx and 25mm cannons. Well before this every ship would have launched optical, radar, and heat counter measures something Russian asms were incredibly susceptible to. Beyond this the warships would be focusing around the carriers with the goal of taking hits for them. It is incredibly unlikely that in the 80s any carrier would be hit. Instead multiple destroyers and frigates would take the hits for them with the few remaining missiles, likely only 20 by that point. Destroying lesser ships not to mention the moment that the missiles were detected fighters on scramble alert would be in the air, it takes only 18 minutes for the asms to close distance but since they are detected from launch multiple fighter squadrons would have time to scramble in 18 minutes. Aswell as jamming aircraft with the express goal of confusing asms into falling out of the sky.
More importantly it flies at a plausible speed and altitude for a manned jet so with nothing else to go on radar operators will likely misidentify it as one, as happened in RSR.
Being a former US Navy airdale, I learned very little of surface warfare tactics and weapons. In my opinion this video is a must watch for former and current sailors to know what modern navies are up against if a peer to peer conflict ever broke out at sea.
A good question. Yes they are. Aircraft will always be the primary launch platform for missiles due to speed and stealth. The arrival of unmanned wingmen will change the game even more.
I forgot to mention their role in sensor altitude. F35 for example gives a huge increase in radar and IIR sensor reach. Mapping enemy naval and land based systems.
@@sbkarajan grandpa doesn't know about DF-21. carriers are worthless. they will be sunk in seconds. there's no countermeasures. there's a reason why many countries are staying away from carriers having only a small expeditionary force for small conflicts. you can bet that in a large war, in the first hours all carriers will be sunk.
Having followed Drachnifell's channel for a while, I like the way you have interwoven the different topics. At least for the WW2 part. Very well informed video, as always!
I’m so glad I discovered this channel… I’m leaving a comment so that the algorithm will hopefully pick up
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This was very illuminating. As always. I recently read a book about the history of the early west german navy in the cold war. For a time their major problem was that they had absolutly no counter to soviet ship lunched anti ship missiles. Making a defence of the baltic sea exit very difficult indeed.
@@Boeing_hitsquad you make a good point. Thank you for reminding me of the SLQ-32 block 3 upgrade program. I’d forgotten all about the evolving non-kinetic aspect of anti-ship missile defence. 👍
The USN fielded the first fully autonomous radar guided glide bomb "ASM-N-2 Bat" during 1944 and used it to some effect against japanese shipping from stand off (20nmi) ~33km distances
1:18:04 I don't remember where he got his is source from, but Lazerpig (on What Sank The Moskava) read from a maintenance report that the ship was heavily malfunctioning due to a lack of maintenance. They couldn't even use their missile defense system or even detect them while using communications or something.
I believe you are correct. Explains why many of the aerial photos take by western observing aircraft that have been released to the general public will show a tug boat accompanying the old Soviet era capital ships.
I just stumbled upon your channel today and this is first video I watched. Bloody amazing content man, very impressed. I haven't found anything as in depth as this video. Keep up the high quality work!
Great video! Your descriptions of the battle net and kill chain were really interesting! As a former mortar man, the ability to maintain that communications net is crucial. For some time this idea has been creeping down tge food chain and now it seems it might soon reach down to the infantryman level. It would be interesting to hear a history of battle nets and how future iterations and applications of networking might change the battlefield at different scales. And what countermeasures are there to disrupt the enemy's com tech. All the best!
Sweden developed a sea skimming anti ship missiles for its fleet of A32A Lansen strike aircraft in the 1950s. It was the worlds first sea skimming anti ship missile when it entered service in 1961 as the RB04C. This missile was essentially impervious to air defences as nothing at the time could reliably shoot down a sea skimmer for 15 years. Its origins can literally be found in the V1 as the V1 autopilot was copied given a roll axis gyro and used in the missile. Sweden had the great fortune to be oposite the german test ranges in WW2 so lots of V1 and V2 missiles landed in Sweden and could be studied. It is ironic that the british air defence systems (Sea Slug and Cat) blamed as obsolete where newer systems than the RB04 in service. The missile was one of the most top secret items in the Swedish military, you where not allowed to visit their dispersed storage cites in military vehicles or clothing. Hence the missile was never exported. It basically did everything the Exocet did in 1975 back in 1961 it just had shorter range. The RB04 lives on in the RBS15 class of missiles which reused the missile body and warhead, and started life as RB04 Turbo
Hardly impervious to air defense, resistant to the crude first generation surface to air missile systems. The close-defense systems of the time, such as the superb French, Italian, and American automatic guns would find it a trivial target.
@@jamesharding3459 Tracking a target low to the sea is difficult and monopulse fire control radars hardly existed in 1961 which is the accuracy you need. Proximity fuzes for anti air projectiles of the 10-12cm variety where not optimized to destroy targets so close to the surface as 2-10 meters.
@@AdurianJ Not attainable with 1960’s flight controls. 20-50m was the minimum that could be realistically attained under operational conditions - unless you wish to kill fish instead of ships.
@@jamesharding3459 There is a reason the altitude control system took the most time to develop. But 10m was achieved operationally in 1961, if the weather was bad a higher altitude was selected manually.
@@AdurianJ Grapeshot-type charges could probably have been an easy fix for the very last ditch self defense effort if the proximity fuse is found too difficult to optimize, as long as the missile can be at least tracked.
This guy has a phd in history isn't perun a gaming channel that became a wiki warrior with the invasion of ukraine? Doesn't seem like it would be worth his time. That said, since you are talking about perun on this channel I will go check him out. Amateur channels quickly start pumping out misinformation so my hopes aren't high but again, if mentioned in the same sentence as a real expert ...
@@stephendwyer4659 He is quite good. He is actually a member of the military community, he works in defense logistics for the Australian government I believe so he does have relevant expertise. More to the point he does not do deep analysis anyway, he stays at high levels and so doesn't ever risk making a mistake. That said his utility is limited by that same distance from depth and you are a russian bot,name name, random number account
Mind boggling and accurate. Very well put together and presented in an easy to follow, logical order. Clearly "masters" level research of the highest order. From an ole "digger" and retired historian, well done sir !
Outstanding presentation. I would like to add that stand off electronic counter measures embodied in the EA-18G Growler make targeting a carrier that much more challenging. These highly sophisticated platforms can jam and spoof acquisition radars and jam data links and communication. They would require launching platforms to get closer to burn through jamming and become vulnerable to kinetic countermeasures. Moreover, in addition to the EA-18G on defense operations, they are powerful tools in the offense. They can push back air defenses and confuse the enemies tactical awareness while antiship missiles, HARM anti-radiation missiles and ADM-160 MALD (Miniature Air-Launched Decoy) missiles fill the battle space with real and imaginary threats.
And thats just the air wing, then you consider the Aegis equipped cruisers abs destroyers that would be escorting the carrier and it gets incredibly difficult to get through the layered IADS. Seeing the MALDs and Patriots performance in Ukraine gives a slight glimpse of just how advanced and effective Western Ewar tech is. Considering patriot has been intercepting hypersonics and doesn't seem to be greatly effected by russian jamming efforts you can imagine what systems like THAAD and Aegis can do.
Nice Video :) Two more examples from WW2 that would fit the technical definition of an Anti ship (cruise) missile a bit better than the Friitz-X: The US Radar guided ANM N-2 Bat and the german MCLOS/TV guided Hs 293, which was the most successful anti-ship missile until the introduction of the Exocet in 1975.
Awesome video, honestly. I was very much fascinated with both military aviation and navy, and your video, narration and analysis are just stellar. And, to be honest, it is really heart-warming when english-speaking authors dont miss or degrade the /eastern/ weapons, tactics, etc. If you perhaps need assistance in translating or in pronunciation of soviet/russian documents for future videos, i can assist to the top of my ability. But i am, of course, not a proper translator, just an enthusiast. Thanks for the video anyway)
If you find yourself exploring Southern California; take Pacific Coast Highway (PCH) from LA to Ventura county. Visit Missile Park, just outside Point Mugu Naval Air Station which displays numerous aircraft & missiles that were tested at Naval Air Station Point Mugu. Displays date from 1950s to present.
You are correct: we keep hearing the carrier spelt the end of Battleship, but a carrier cannot do shore bombardment and a carrier can be taken out as easily as a battleship by planes. That is why you won't send a lone battleship in battle after WWII and you won't do that with a carrier either. It was because of how monumentally expensive battleships where, able to bankrupt nations. They were literally big assets nobody can afford to lose light-heartedly. The 2 Bismarck and the Littorio played a big role strategy wise locking in place huge assets of the enemy to counter them, which was worth as it was difficult to get rid of them, but the day a single plane showed it could take out a 6 milion Lire worth ship with a single bomb, the battleship as a concept died. It was not the plane, it was the reliability of the hit and the impossibility to up armour the ship any further against the menace.
Hard disagree that carriers are as vulnerable to aircraft as battleships and can’t do shore bombardment. A battleship’s defence against aircraft is limited to the range of it’s anti-aircraft guns (or SAM systems, on any modern-day equivalent to a BB) whereas a carrier’s defence extends to the protection granted it by it’s air wing and their combat air patrol. And with modern day AEW&C aircraft and long range air to air missiles this umbrella is very wide indeed. As for shore bombardment, for a carrier that is just ground attack and close air support by another name. And in the modern day a carrier can strike at a greater range and with more precision than a battleship’s guns can. Perhaps the only aspect still in favour of it’s use in shore bombardment is the psychological effect it can have on enemy forces.
@@Warspite1 Except no. Battleship - especially with air & asw umbrella - can be just parked along shore and respond more quickly than aviation could. And continue siting there long after aircraft have to return....
Great and interesting video as always. Just wanted to say I really enjoy your modern weapon / system analysis more than the historical videos, I know its one of your pet loves, but just wanted to share my thoughts. Thanks for your entertaining videos.
small correction, in actuality the warhead of the KSR did not form an EFP, it simply was arranged to increase explosive effect via shaped charge without an EFP-forming liner. I could be wrong on this but shaped charges of this type were to my knowledge the default choice for soviet ASCMs
Bro, your content is top notch. You really do your homework and on diverse topics. One can tell you put in a LOT of work for these. Your nuke tutorial hooked me. Well done! 👍
Wow, excellent video well worth the 2 hours. Question - how do missiles like the NSM and LRASM communicate in a group without creating a detectable electronic signature?
Highly directional communications, theoretically detectable, practically not so much. Not sure if they literally use Link-16, which is the standard datalink for the US military, but if not they use something similar.
That's why I don't like those 10 mins videos explaining a weapon system by reading out wikipedia specifications It requires history, doctrine, employment tactics to fully understand the capabilities Bravo to you sir..!
Jeez, talk about well researched, well written, in-depth, long-form video. I had to take a brain-break in-between to digest the flow of facts. Just the sheer volume of video used to illustrate a really well-made one! Amazing achievement. We in Britain thought, as any superpower does, that Argentina would be seen off quickly. My stepfather was second in command of H.M.S. Sheffield, under Captain Salt, you can imagine his shock at finding himself in the north Atlantic in the first week of battle. This is not generally known, but he told me, in order to mitigate the threat of the Exocet after the Sheffield/Atlantic Conveyer, Margaret Thatcher armed a nuke being carried by submarine, aimed it at Montevideo, and gave President Mitterrand, an ultimatum to give Britain the launch codes of every Exocet carried by Argentina, or face the consequences. I am not sure if that is why there were no more Exocet kills but Argentina had bought enough of the anti-ship missiles, and only used 9 or 10 against a huge task force? The Sheffield was the first Argentine kill, and no nation in war stops using a weapon unless something else is in play, because there were 40 ships out there under British flags. We now know Israel and France, where both helping Argentina in that war, and America was helping both. Who can you trust in war if you can't trust nation's, you have helped before? And so much for the special relationship between Britain and America.
"This is not generally known, but he told me, in order to mitigate the threat of the Exocet after the Sheffield/Atlantic Conveyer, Margaret Thatcher armed a nuke being carried by submarine, aimed it at Montevideo, and gave President Mitterrand, an ultimatum to give Britain the launch codes of every Exocet carried by Argentina, or face the consequences. I am not sure if that is why there were no more Exocet kills but Argentina had bought enough of the anti-ship missiles, and only used 9 or 10 against a huge task force?" It's not widely known because, to be frank, its total bollocks. Literallly nothing there has any basis in reality. No Polaris boat was shifted from CASD patrol. Montevideo is in Uruguay.....not Argentina. President Mitterand is in France, and the idea we'd threaten France with nuclear weapons, a fellow NATO state also armed with nuclear weapons is laughable. In reality the French helped the UK to a huge degree, even sending Super Etendard to exercise with the Task Force so that the ships could easily recognise the Agave radar signature that presaged an Exocet launch. There is also no such thing as 'launch codes' on anti ship missiles. The UK perfectly understood how Exocet worked for the simple fact that we were the biggest user....we had more Exocet on the ships of the Task Force than the Argentinian's possessed in total. The Argentinian's had a grand total of 5 air launched Exocet delivered that could be fired from Super Etendard. The French ceased deliveries at the start of the war and assisted the UK in making sure no more got to Argentina through other routes. They fired all of them. They got 2 hits. A further Exocet hit was from a trailer mounted missile system that they had taken from a warship in Argentina, flown into the Falklands on C-130 and jury rigged.
Thanks...another great video! I particularly enjoyed your referencing of Clancy's Red Storm Rising....coincidentally, I've been re-reading it now...and I'd always considered it a logical way to take on a carrier battle group. You cover all the questions I can think of, and I look forward to your next one. If you're looking for more idea's....I'd love to see more on the Soviet Union's take on fighting a major war. After the events of WW2, there's not much available on TH-cam.
Audible has a great read of Red Storm Rising. 31+ hours long if you're curious. I've read it a dozen or more times. Such a great book. I'd love a movie based on it but am afraid Hollywood would ruin it like Starship Troopers.
one-third the way through this epic........the grass is gonna miss out on being cut and the windows will stay dirty, I'm digging in for the long haul......an excellent presentation on a very contemporary subject. Thank you
those first pictures really show that camo paint job and what it does better than Ive ever seen. Blending in has to be all but impossible but it sure jumbles it all up. Makes it super hard to tell what you are actually looking at. That first one had that line on the bow that made it look like it could be 40ft shorter than it really is. Always amazed at what you can learn from these videos. I cant even imagine what it would feel like to be on land back in the WW2 days of total destruction and seeing the Navy show up. I will always be in aw of the conventional guns, but the invention of guided missiles had to be a change on the level of air support and black powder.
I was in the USN during the 1990’s. I’ve worked on several surface to air missile and gun systems and without a doubt I can say they we have no idea how a full scale war against China would go. There are so many variables and conditions that could affect the outcome of every engagement that until we actually have a few battles we just don’t know how effective any of our systems are. Most weapons are completely controlled by computers as things happen far to quick for humans to understand and react to. In peacetime it’s easy but with thousands of missiles, planes, ships, and submarines all trying to sink each other it’s a holy mess.
I'd say let the US attack subs litter the ocean floor with Chy-na ships. Then decide if surface assets or carrier aircraft are needed. Even the "old" LA class sub could wreck the Chy-na fleet before it could do much.
I have read "red storm rising ". For the first time around 1990. I have never understood the complexity of the dance of the Vampires chapter. Until now. Thanks for the great explanation!
Amazing video as always. I kept this in my to watch list for over a year while waiting for Sea Power to release. I knew that if I watched it before the game came out the wait would become too much to bear XD
As a Swede I'm sadden that the RBS15 was forgotten. Easily up there with the other western offerings. Even the old ones could "swarm" the target like the JSM for example.
@@bramha9680 Yeah, it's still subsonic, but for example 27% faster than a Harpoon. And we Swedes usually give a lower number than reality, compared to the Russians or Chinese for example who over promise on everything.
The way a Heatseeking Missile actually works, is (well the long and short of it) is there is a spinning IR camera inside which looks at the target through and array of mirrors that can adjust in angle kind of like changing focal length on a camera, it gets the name 'Sidewinder' from the porpoising motion it makes through the air as it barrels it's way toward the enemy in ever diminshing arcs which is a direct causation of the afforementioned rotating camera.
The thesis that the cruise missile is what killed the dreadnaught rather than the aircraft carrier is 100% correct and you deserve an award for this alone.
That said, what made the battleship itself obsolete _was_ aircraft - battleships and their massive guns existed for the express purpose of providing stand-off advantage, but 10-20,000-yard range guns are insignificant next to several-hundred-mile-range aircraft. What the anti-ship cruise missile did was render the notion of guns as primary weapons and armoured flanks obsolete, including for cruisers.
@@alexv3357The point is that the Aircraft itself weren’t the primary killers of the battleship, while they were able to damage or even get a Mission kill, it was still the Primary armament of a battleship that was able to kill it. Aircraft carriers enhanced the capabilities of a fleet in a peer to peer engagement, but weren’t the main reason, otherwise we would have seen the Aircraft carrier replace the battleship overnight. The Japanese still used their carriers for fire support even when they were used for ferrying aircraft.
I am a retired USN Surface Warfare Officer. For three years, I was a Naval Sea Systems Command missile test officer. We lived and breathed air defense against the cruise and high diver supersonic missile threat. Your presentation is amazingly accurate and superbly constructed. Your assessments of the relative capabilities and limitations of each system, both offensive threat and defensive systems are very accurate. I salute you Sir. Very well done! Bravo Zulu!
Sir, firstly let me thank you for your service. I'm a retired British Army Senior NCO, my 22 year career covered the end of the Cold War and a handful of years afterwards. My question to you concerns Red Storm Rising. It was required reading for my unit and I was wondering if it was the same for you given your role.
After almost two decades studying Warsaw Pact (WP) tactics, doctrine and various details of enemy SOPs. As well as familiarisation with the West German terrain etc. All the things a professional soldier and student of Sun Tzu would be expected to do. The USSR and WP disintegrated before my eyes, and poof! We were deployed to the Middle East, to prepare for war with Iraq in a totally alien desert environment. The life of a soldier SNAFU.
Huh. Surprised you didn't correct them about the whole "man-in-the-loop" fire command authority used to operate the Phalanx CIWS - unless that threat follows the parameters of an anti-ship missile.
I'm almost moved by your sad story 🤮
Hope this question reaches that officer .
Ty
2 hours, 16 minutes and 21 seconds and not a single ''like, subscribe and comment''. What an amazing video, I enjoyed it very much. Thank you very much.
The very best do not have to grovel for subscriptions or likes, they earn them automatically because of the amazing quality and accuracy of their content.
then again, i dont mind link and share reminders, the content is free after all. what i do not like is exclusive premium content that only people who can afford it have access to.
youtubers deserve to make money from google for us watching videos on their website, like reminders help sometimes
Your stuff is simply Rolls Royce. Just a cut above everything else. For minds that want well researched, well reasoned and well articulated explanations of complex topics… you have the throne.
Chapeau 🎩!
Chaps, spread the word of this channel in the relevant comment sections.
The lack of views on these masterpieces is criminal. ^^
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Could not have said it better
This is what happens when you go to historians and military experts instead of video gamers who have wikipedia!
Damn! I was thinking it was anti-cruise ship missles!
I'm stunned by the quality of the information and presentation of information you always manage.
You deserve success. The work you all are doing is impressive. Brilliant and inspiring. There are professionals in the industry of deterrence who have seen your presentations that have been floored. Be proud. You've been heard. We will applaud anything you create. You are inspiring and informing.
If NCD & Perun watcher are not +50% of the audience here, I'll be disappointed. ^^ ❤
@@elektrotehnik94 I was thinking the exact same thing! I was wondering if it was just me that was thinking the level of quality in this video I'm from the other guys you mentioned it's just a cut above the rest. I mean seriously better, don't you think?
yes indeed the amount of information is astonishing accurate
Very well summed up Bill. This chap has assembled well researched and thoughtfully presented gems.
I am impressed to say the least.
@@elektrotehnik94 Wondering which channel is NCD? :)
This is the first time I've been significantly intrigued by Naval Warfare of any kind and my goodness I believe you've shown me the error of my ways! I suspect I will appreciate much more naval history now thanks to this very engrossing video!
God bless your diligence and hard work!
Love from Iowa
Watch some Drachinifel! I was never into water war until I watched his videos
@@Frenulem thanks for the reccomendation! Ill check it out! :)
I was the same until i read Red Storm Rising a couple months ago, somehow made me realize naval and sub warfare, while not as cool as air warfare, may be as interesting.
Same here, its kinda outside my wheelhouse and I feel hella sad about unarmed sailors getting killed without much agency.
@@Frenulem Old thread, but my early gateway to interest in naval war/history was via a bit more of an abstracted SciFi take, the Honor Harrington books. They’re inspired loosely from the Horatio Hornblower stories, and like those the Harrington books draw a lot of historical interpretation from Lord Admiral Nelson. The space battles are set up to act much like age of sail into early dreadnaught style tactics, worth a check for a lot of the same reasons as Clancy books.
I am always impressed by the level of detail you go into regarding whatever subject matter you are presently discussing. So much so, that, I have learned to wait to watch your videos until such time that I am sure to be free from distraction or interruption for at least 2 hours. As a married man with children and pets, those moments do not come often and are treasured. The fact that my activity of choice during those precious periods of time is to enjoy and mentally download the wealth of information you provide is probably the highest compliment I can pay a content creator. You are a master of your craft. Thank you for your diligence!
I haven't watched this yet but oh man am I excited, two hours about anti ship cruise missiles in the content I unironically crave, I wish we had more people like you on TH-cam.
Now you have to go watch a video about SLQ SEWIP systems.. because amazingly he totally forgot them 😂
Hey mate, great to see yet another video! I think I speak for everyone when I say I really enjoy these in-depth historical biographies on weapon systems and military history. Thank you! Also would you think about doing any live stream Q&As? I heard you mention that would be a possibility in one of your tiktokers Q&A videos and I want to say that would be great. Anyway, really thank you for the videos, they are really great and quite unique in that there isn't much like this (at least this in depth). Have a good day man!
Some of the most extensive content of the type and for that, I 2nd that notion and thank you as well.
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No you don't.
I don't like war mongering
I just want you to know that you're very good at this kind of presentation. I have interest in your content but I can't listen to someone go on about a specific class of missile for two hours unless they've really put the presentation together correctly. This is a very good product and you should be proud.
There are hundreds of comments pointing out inaccuracies. Please don’t encourage him.
I love red storm rising, you just made me re read the whole scene again with the backfires. However, I’d argue the genesis of the anti ship missile is the ASM-2 bat, which was a radar guided fire and forget munition deployed before the the fritz X and used for far longer than it after the war.
I think the best german comparison would be the HS-293, since Fritz-X is an Bomb while Hs-293 is rocket powered
Hs-293 would honestly be the better example of the very first ASCM, being rocket boosted, it has longer range than the Fritz-X, and in terms of usage, it saw even more widespread use than Fritz-X
Also fun fact, Imperial Germany has developed gliding bombs even back in WW1, dropped from an Airship
@@twddersharkmarine7774 See the RAE Larynx of 1927....
I think red storm rising gets it wrong, because at the time a very important part of the escort ships duty was to intercept missiles. While we have weapons able to intercept asms out to there launch range of 200nm today, even in the 80s the destroyers would have been firing standard missiles intercepting weapons from at least 75nm out. Once they closed to 10nm the sea sparrow launchers equiped on the multiple destroyers would have taken out multiple missiles, with each destroyer carrying at least 8 in a box launcher. Then at 5nm 127mm and 76mm radar guided airburst shells would be engaging missiles. Then at 2nm and closing last ditch defences would have opened up like phalanx and 25mm cannons. Well before this every ship would have launched optical, radar, and heat counter measures something Russian asms were incredibly susceptible to. Beyond this the warships would be focusing around the carriers with the goal of taking hits for them. It is incredibly unlikely that in the 80s any carrier would be hit. Instead multiple destroyers and frigates would take the hits for them with the few remaining missiles, likely only 20 by that point. Destroying lesser ships not to mention the moment that the missiles were detected fighters on scramble alert would be in the air, it takes only 18 minutes for the asms to close distance but since they are detected from launch multiple fighter squadrons would have time to scramble in 18 minutes. Aswell as jamming aircraft with the express goal of confusing asms into falling out of the sky.
There aren't too many youtubers that keep my attention for 2+ hours but you are definitely one of them! I love your videos! Keep up the amazing work!
What a fantastic way to use 2 hours! Thanks for the detailed and interesting analysis of missile warfare
But he totally fucked up and didn't include SLQ SEWIP systems... So huge parts of this video need amending and additions
The AS-5 Kelt was used in Red Storm Rising as decoys by the Badgers.
Its a 1950s missile and looks like a small fighter plane without a cockpit.
I've heard they were commonly used as targets to train SAM operators
It doesn't look like a fighter without a cockpit, it IS a LA-15 without a cockpit
More importantly it flies at a plausible speed and altitude for a manned jet so with nothing else to go on radar operators will likely misidentify it as one, as happened in RSR.
I love this channel.
I've listened to your videos about the Aus/SEA theater a few times and they're great.
Being a former US Navy airdale, I learned very little of surface warfare tactics and weapons. In my opinion this video is a must watch for former and current sailors to know what modern navies are up against if a peer to peer conflict ever broke out at sea.
Do you think aircraft carriers are still relevant?
A good question. Yes they are. Aircraft will always be the primary launch platform for missiles due to speed and stealth. The arrival of unmanned wingmen will change the game even more.
I forgot to mention their role in sensor altitude. F35 for example gives a huge increase in radar and IIR sensor reach. Mapping enemy naval and land based systems.
if you learned very little than us navy is absolute shit. even in russia there's comprehensive mandatory training about all this
@@sbkarajan grandpa doesn't know about DF-21. carriers are worthless. they will be sunk in seconds. there's no countermeasures. there's a reason why many countries are staying away from carriers having only a small expeditionary force for small conflicts.
you can bet that in a large war, in the first hours all carriers will be sunk.
This is a better brief than most I've seen inside the military. I'd not hesitate to use this as training material.
Calling the hit on Hood a "crippling blow" is kinda like saying JFK died from a head injury lol
Technically it is correct if something of an understatement.
Also oxygen is good for you and Jeffrey Dahmer was a bit of an asshole.
JFK lost his mind. Rimshot
British understatement, “it’s only a flesh wound”.
Huh?
Having followed Drachnifell's channel for a while, I like the way you have interwoven the different topics. At least for the WW2 part. Very well informed video, as always!
You and Perun are my go to entertainment . You Aussies are amazing! please keep it up!
I’m so glad I discovered this channel… I’m leaving a comment so that the algorithm will hopefully pick up
This was very illuminating. As always.
I recently read a book about the history of the early west german navy in the cold war. For a time their major problem was that they had absolutly no counter to soviet ship lunched anti ship missiles. Making a defence of the baltic sea exit very difficult indeed.
Another masterclass in comprehensively researched and well presented briefing. Thank you.
Masterclass? Dude totally left out SLQ SEWIP systems... That's a huge error
@@Boeing_hitsquad you make a good point. Thank you for reminding me of the SLQ-32 block 3 upgrade program. I’d forgotten all about the evolving non-kinetic aspect of anti-ship missile defence. 👍
The USN fielded the first fully autonomous radar guided glide bomb "ASM-N-2 Bat" during 1944 and used it to some effect against japanese shipping from stand off (20nmi) ~33km distances
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I don't remember where he got his is source from, but Lazerpig (on What Sank The Moskava) read from a maintenance report that the ship was heavily malfunctioning due to a lack of maintenance. They couldn't even use their missile defense system or even detect them while using communications or something.
Yeah maintenance is often ignored when talking about these things
No smoking signs were stolen you mean ?
I believe you are correct. Explains why many of the aerial photos take by western observing aircraft that have been released to the general public will show a tug boat accompanying the old Soviet era capital ships.
That's what happens when you have a corrupt government. Putin ultimately destroyed the Russian economic system and the military as well.
Echoes of Type 42 in the Falklands
How on earth do you not have at least 100k subs?? 😮 Doesn’t make any sense. Your content is second to none. Thank you!! 🙏
I just stumbled upon your channel today and this is first video I watched. Bloody amazing content man, very impressed. I haven't found anything as in depth as this video. Keep up the high quality work!
watch the video on nukes and chemical weapons and f35 very good
Another outstanding and comprehensive contribution. I love both the great content of the current environment as well as the historical context.
And yet he missed SLQ SEWIP systems.. which are the most important module on US ships responsible for defence
Great video! Your descriptions of the battle net and kill chain were really interesting! As a former mortar man, the ability to maintain that communications net is crucial. For some time this idea has been creeping down tge food chain and now it seems it might soon reach down to the infantryman level. It would be interesting to hear a history of battle nets and how future iterations and applications of networking might change the battlefield at different scales. And what countermeasures are there to disrupt the enemy's com tech. All the best!
Sweden developed a sea skimming anti ship missiles for its fleet of A32A Lansen strike aircraft in the 1950s.
It was the worlds first sea skimming anti ship missile when it entered service in 1961 as the RB04C.
This missile was essentially impervious to air defences as nothing at the time could reliably shoot down a sea skimmer for 15 years.
Its origins can literally be found in the V1 as the V1 autopilot was copied given a roll axis gyro and used in the missile.
Sweden had the great fortune to be oposite the german test ranges in WW2 so lots of V1 and V2 missiles landed in Sweden and could be studied.
It is ironic that the british air defence systems (Sea Slug and Cat) blamed as obsolete where newer systems than the RB04 in service.
The missile was one of the most top secret items in the Swedish military, you where not allowed to visit their dispersed storage cites in military vehicles or clothing.
Hence the missile was never exported.
It basically did everything the Exocet did in 1975 back in 1961 it just had shorter range.
The RB04 lives on in the RBS15 class of missiles which reused the missile body and warhead, and started life as RB04 Turbo
Hardly impervious to air defense, resistant to the crude first generation surface to air missile systems. The close-defense systems of the time, such as the superb French, Italian, and American automatic guns would find it a trivial target.
@@jamesharding3459 Tracking a target low to the sea is difficult and monopulse fire control radars hardly existed in 1961 which is the accuracy you need.
Proximity fuzes for anti air projectiles of the 10-12cm variety where not optimized to destroy targets so close to the surface as 2-10 meters.
@@AdurianJ Not attainable with 1960’s flight controls. 20-50m was the minimum that could be realistically attained under operational conditions - unless you wish to kill fish instead of ships.
@@jamesharding3459 There is a reason the altitude control system took the most time to develop.
But 10m was achieved operationally in 1961, if the weather was bad a higher altitude was selected manually.
@@AdurianJ Grapeshot-type charges could probably have been an easy fix for the very last ditch self defense effort if the proximity fuse is found too difficult to optimize, as long as the missile can be at least tracked.
Love this vid. I think I have rewatched it 3 times. Tons of great info on the history, development & consequences of ASCM!
I love your videos man! congratulations for this great job. I'm really grateful for having this kind of content available on youtube!
Once again OUTSTANDING, learning has never been such a pleasure thank you.
Fantastically presented material here, definitely going to watch more, keep it up mate!
Excellent in-depth review of history and current status of ASMs. Thank you!
You and Perun make God tier content, I would love to see you guys do a livestream together.
This guy has a phd in history isn't perun a gaming channel that became a wiki warrior with the invasion of ukraine?
Doesn't seem like it would be worth his time.
That said, since you are talking about perun on this channel I will go check him out.
Amateur channels quickly start pumping out misinformation so my hopes aren't high but again, if mentioned in the same sentence as a real expert ...
Perun is garbage, just Wikipedia nonsense. People get fooled by production quality.
We need a collaborative effort from the holy trinity of Australian defence channels: Perun, HypoHystericalHistory, and Animarchy.
@@BeKindToBirdsAny feedback on Perun yet?
@@stephendwyer4659 He is quite good. He is actually a member of the military community, he works in defense logistics for the Australian government I believe so he does have relevant expertise. More to the point he does not do deep analysis anyway, he stays at high levels and so doesn't ever risk making a mistake.
That said his utility is limited by that same distance from depth and you are a russian bot,name name, random number account
Mind boggling and accurate. Very well put together and presented in an easy to follow, logical order.
Clearly "masters" level research of the highest order. From an ole "digger" and retired historian, well done sir !
Is you ultimate guide to nuclear weapons available anywhere else? I miss that video, why did TH-cam take it down? It was so interesting and fantastic
Yeah! Where'd it go? o.O
You're incredibly thorough and it's a treat to watch. Thanks for cranking these out !
Outstanding work! This is the most comprehensive guide one can find without a security clearance.
Outstanding presentation. I would like to add that stand off electronic counter measures embodied in the EA-18G Growler make targeting a carrier that much more challenging. These highly sophisticated platforms can jam and spoof acquisition radars and jam data links and communication. They would require launching platforms to get closer to burn through jamming and become vulnerable to kinetic countermeasures. Moreover, in addition to the EA-18G on defense operations, they are powerful tools in the offense. They can push back air defenses and confuse the enemies tactical awareness while antiship missiles, HARM anti-radiation missiles and ADM-160 MALD (Miniature Air-Launched Decoy) missiles fill the battle space with real and imaginary threats.
Mach 6ballistic, you're toast.
@garynew9637 nope, Standard missiles can intercept hypersonics.
Hell even patriot can intercept hypersonics.
And thats just the air wing, then you consider the Aegis equipped cruisers abs destroyers that would be escorting the carrier and it gets incredibly difficult to get through the layered IADS.
Seeing the MALDs and Patriots performance in Ukraine gives a slight glimpse of just how advanced and effective Western Ewar tech is. Considering patriot has been intercepting hypersonics and doesn't seem to be greatly effected by russian jamming efforts you can imagine what systems like THAAD and Aegis can do.
My favorite TH-cam channel. Awesome work!
You and Perun should definitely get together!
But Perun sucks
@@HolyNorthAmericanEmpireWhy?
Dude's jealous of the aussie with clout
@@tommiterava5955his data treatment and depth of research is a bit lackluster in my opinion.
Nice Video :)
Two more examples from WW2 that would fit the technical definition of an Anti ship (cruise) missile a bit better than the Friitz-X: The US Radar guided ANM N-2 Bat and the german MCLOS/TV guided Hs 293, which was the most successful anti-ship missile until the introduction of the Exocet in 1975.
Im pretty sure the Fritz-X was closer to an LGB than a cruise missile but the bat is certainly a very underrated weapon.
Not just informative but really entertaining, great stuff, cheers!
Awesome video, honestly. I was very much fascinated with both military aviation and navy, and your video, narration and analysis are just stellar. And, to be honest, it is really heart-warming when english-speaking authors dont miss or degrade the /eastern/ weapons, tactics, etc. If you perhaps need assistance in translating or in pronunciation of soviet/russian documents for future videos, i can assist to the top of my ability. But i am, of course, not a proper translator, just an enthusiast. Thanks for the video anyway)
Another wonderful, informative and bloody well produced video. Love em,..watch em more than once.
you put a lot of work into your work and it shows
If you find yourself exploring Southern California; take Pacific Coast Highway (PCH) from LA to Ventura county. Visit Missile Park, just outside Point Mugu Naval Air Station which displays numerous aircraft & missiles that were tested at Naval Air Station Point Mugu. Displays date from 1950s to present.
I always listen to these while I’m doing stuff so I miss bits and can justify listening again. Makes them last even longer
The very best walk-thru video. Amazing job well done.
Holy shit man, 2+ hours of content in one video. Time to kick back and enjoy
Well, it's hard to hope for a better overview than that! Excellent video! I learned a lot!
You are correct: we keep hearing the carrier spelt the end of Battleship, but a carrier cannot do shore bombardment and a carrier can be taken out as easily as a battleship by planes. That is why you won't send a lone battleship in battle after WWII and you won't do that with a carrier either.
It was because of how monumentally expensive battleships where, able to bankrupt nations. They were literally big assets nobody can afford to lose light-heartedly. The 2 Bismarck and the Littorio played a big role strategy wise locking in place huge assets of the enemy to counter them, which was worth as it was difficult to get rid of them, but the day a single plane showed it could take out a 6 milion Lire worth ship with a single bomb, the battleship as a concept died. It was not the plane, it was the reliability of the hit and the impossibility to up armour the ship any further against the menace.
Hard disagree that carriers are as vulnerable to aircraft as battleships and can’t do shore bombardment. A battleship’s defence against aircraft is limited to the range of it’s anti-aircraft guns (or SAM systems, on any modern-day equivalent to a BB) whereas a carrier’s defence extends to the protection granted it by it’s air wing and their combat air patrol. And with modern day AEW&C aircraft and long range air to air missiles this umbrella is very wide indeed.
As for shore bombardment, for a carrier that is just ground attack and close air support by another name. And in the modern day a carrier can strike at a greater range and with more precision than a battleship’s guns can. Perhaps the only aspect still in favour of it’s use in shore bombardment is the psychological effect it can have on enemy forces.
@@Warspite1 Except no. Battleship - especially with air & asw umbrella - can be just parked along shore and respond more quickly than aviation could. And continue siting there long after aircraft have to return....
Great and interesting video as always. Just wanted to say I really enjoy your modern weapon / system analysis more than the historical videos, I know its one of your pet loves, but just wanted to share my thoughts. Thanks for your entertaining videos.
Nice profile pic 😝
@@miamijules2149 :)
This is my favourite TH-cam channel.
Thankyou for the excellent documentary.
Documentary, because it’s more than just content.
the best amateur documentary I have seen !!!!!!!!!!! TRULY MAGNIFICENT !!!!!!!!!
small correction, in actuality the warhead of the KSR did not form an EFP, it simply was arranged to increase explosive effect via shaped charge without an EFP-forming liner. I could be wrong on this but shaped charges of this type were to my knowledge the default choice for soviet ASCMs
Bro, your content is top notch. You really do your homework and on diverse topics. One can tell you put in a LOT of work for these.
Your nuke tutorial hooked me. Well done! 👍
A really well written and researched video, thank you very much. You win my subscription.
Fantastic! This survey is staggering for its completeness and clarity. Congratulations.
Great to see another video! Please keep them coming.
Exceptional video, highly detailed. Loved every second!
Been waiting on your next video; didn't disappoint!
Wow, excellent video well worth the 2 hours. Question - how do missiles like the NSM and LRASM communicate in a group without creating a detectable electronic signature?
Highly directional communications, theoretically detectable, practically not so much. Not sure if they literally use Link-16, which is the standard datalink for the US military, but if not they use something similar.
This is my first time watching your videos. Great job. Very informative and thorough.
I thought this came out longer ago than it did.
So probably just goanna watch it again. Love you're work!
Favorite channel as of late, keep it up!
That's why I don't like those 10 mins videos explaining a weapon system by reading out wikipedia specifications
It requires history, doctrine, employment tactics to fully understand the capabilities
Bravo to you sir..!
Jeez, talk about well researched, well written, in-depth, long-form video. I had to take a brain-break in-between to digest the flow of facts. Just the sheer volume of video used to illustrate a really well-made one! Amazing achievement. We in Britain thought, as any superpower does, that Argentina would be seen off quickly. My stepfather was second in command of H.M.S. Sheffield, under Captain Salt, you can imagine his shock at finding himself in the north Atlantic in the first week of battle. This is not generally known, but he told me, in order to mitigate the threat of the Exocet after the Sheffield/Atlantic Conveyer, Margaret Thatcher armed a nuke being carried by submarine, aimed it at Montevideo, and gave President Mitterrand, an ultimatum to give Britain the launch codes of every Exocet carried by Argentina, or face the consequences. I am not sure if that is why there were no more Exocet kills but Argentina had bought enough of the anti-ship missiles, and only used 9 or 10 against a huge task force? The Sheffield was the first Argentine kill, and no nation in war stops using a weapon unless something else is in play, because there were 40 ships out there under British flags. We now know Israel and France, where both helping Argentina in that war, and America was helping both. Who can you trust in war if you can't trust nation's, you have helped before? And so much for the special relationship between Britain and America.
"This is not generally known, but he told me, in order to mitigate the threat of the Exocet after the Sheffield/Atlantic Conveyer, Margaret Thatcher armed a nuke being carried by submarine, aimed it at Montevideo, and gave President Mitterrand, an ultimatum to give Britain the launch codes of every Exocet carried by Argentina, or face the consequences. I am not sure if that is why there were no more Exocet kills but Argentina had bought enough of the anti-ship missiles, and only used 9 or 10 against a huge task force?"
It's not widely known because, to be frank, its total bollocks. Literallly nothing there has any basis in reality.
No Polaris boat was shifted from CASD patrol.
Montevideo is in Uruguay.....not Argentina.
President Mitterand is in France, and the idea we'd threaten France with nuclear weapons, a fellow NATO state also armed with nuclear weapons is laughable. In reality the French helped the UK to a huge degree, even sending Super Etendard to exercise with the Task Force so that the ships could easily recognise the Agave radar signature that presaged an Exocet launch.
There is also no such thing as 'launch codes' on anti ship missiles. The UK perfectly understood how Exocet worked for the simple fact that we were the biggest user....we had more Exocet on the ships of the Task Force than the Argentinian's possessed in total.
The Argentinian's had a grand total of 5 air launched Exocet delivered that could be fired from Super Etendard. The French ceased deliveries at the start of the war and assisted the UK in making sure no more got to Argentina through other routes. They fired all of them. They got 2 hits. A further Exocet hit was from a trailer mounted missile system that they had taken from a warship in Argentina, flown into the Falklands on C-130 and jury rigged.
Thanks...another great video! I particularly enjoyed your referencing of Clancy's Red Storm Rising....coincidentally, I've been re-reading it now...and I'd always considered it a logical way to take on a carrier battle group. You cover all the questions I can think of, and I look forward to your next one. If you're looking for more idea's....I'd love to see more on the Soviet Union's take on fighting a major war. After the events of WW2, there's not much available on TH-cam.
Audible has a great read of Red Storm Rising. 31+ hours long if you're curious. I've read it a dozen or more times. Such a great book. I'd love a movie based on it but am afraid Hollywood would ruin it like Starship Troopers.
this is not too long. This is awesome content
Such an informative and well presented episode,looking forward to more
Amazingly in depth; excellent
Another awesome presentation. I really like your delivery of the content, very easy to listen to. Well done again mate.
I thoroughly enjoyed the description of the attack of the carrier group by Bears and Backfires. Great video
Phenomenal information as always. Thanks so much for the effort and hard work in making such high quality videos!
Keep up the good work!
And yet he didn't include SLQ SEWIP systems... Kinda massive omission
@@Boeing_hitsquad Calm down. It's already a two hour video.
one-third the way through this epic........the grass is gonna miss out on being cut and the windows will stay dirty, I'm digging in for the long haul......an excellent presentation on a very contemporary subject. Thank you
those first pictures really show that camo paint job and what it does better than Ive ever seen. Blending in has to be all but impossible but it sure jumbles it all up. Makes it super hard to tell what you are actually looking at. That first one had that line on the bow that made it look like it could be 40ft shorter than it really is. Always amazed at what you can learn from these videos. I cant even imagine what it would feel like to be on land back in the WW2 days of total destruction and seeing the Navy show up. I will always be in aw of the conventional guns, but the invention of guided missiles had to be a change on the level of air support and black powder.
This is an amazing video. NATO code names sound so badass lol.
I was in the USN during the 1990’s. I’ve worked on several surface to air missile and gun systems and without a doubt I can say they we have no idea how a full scale war against China would go. There are so many variables and conditions that could affect the outcome of every engagement that until we actually have a few battles we just don’t know how effective any of our systems are. Most weapons are completely controlled by computers as things happen far to quick for humans to understand and react to. In peacetime it’s easy but with thousands of missiles, planes, ships, and submarines all trying to sink each other it’s a holy mess.
I'd say let the US attack subs litter the ocean floor with Chy-na ships. Then decide if surface assets or carrier aircraft are needed. Even the "old" LA class sub could wreck the Chy-na fleet before it could do much.
Another excellent video !! Thanks for making it
I have read "red storm rising ". For the first time around 1990.
I have never understood the complexity of the dance of the Vampires chapter.
Until now.
Thanks for the great explanation!
No fluff just information. Thank you!
Love these feature film length deep dives, can't wait for the next one!
This has been the BEST most in depth history video I've ever watched in my life!😳💓👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
you're wrong about how Hood sank but everything else is amazingly in-depth and impressive as per your usual standard!
I really enjoy your videos on modern topics, like this one. Please make more, thanks
Good video, but the Battle of the Denmark sea where Bismarck sunk Hood was 1941, not 1942 at 16:45
Fantastic video. Quality from beginning to end!
Remarkable work, this video is so well done.
Amazing video as always.
I kept this in my to watch list for over a year while waiting for Sea Power to release.
I knew that if I watched it before the game came out the wait would become too much to bear XD
Man I love these long form videos. Over an hour of escape!! edit - wait!! 2 hrs!! more please!
Just stumbled upon this great video! Excellent research and really enjoyed how you described the transition from WW2 to Cold War strategy/systems.
correction for 22:38: the area of uncertainty rises quadratically, not exponentially.
As a Swede I'm sadden that the RBS15 was forgotten. Easily up there with the other western offerings.
Even the old ones could "swarm" the target like the JSM for example.
It's actually a little faster than the other western missiles if I'm not wrong
@@bramha9680 Yeah, it's still subsonic, but for example 27% faster than a Harpoon.
And we Swedes usually give a lower number than reality, compared to the Russians or Chinese for example who over promise on everything.
He's Australian, so he's in love with American stuff.
The way a Heatseeking Missile actually works, is (well the long and short of it) is there is a spinning IR camera inside which looks at the target through and array of mirrors that can adjust in angle kind of like changing focal length on a camera, it gets the name 'Sidewinder' from the porpoising motion it makes through the air as it barrels it's way toward the enemy in ever diminshing arcs which is a direct causation of the afforementioned rotating camera.
Always looking forward to your next video!
This video singlehandedly opened the door for me to modern naval surface warfare, which always seemed esoteric.
Ultimate this is! So many questions answered, TY.