Why Penelope and Odysseus Work as a Couple
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- I've been thinking about adaptations of these ancient Greek stories into modern media for modern audiences and this thought occurred to me: out of all the relationships in these stories, there's really only one "goals" couple I consistently see portrayed. Let's talk about why.
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So one. You must live in a different time zone from me. To be clear i don’t actually want to disclose where you live. It is more the distance seems like it is far enough apart that you post time is a wild hour where i am.
Second i think when people ask for interesting female characters in greek mythology Penelope gets skipped over. I think she gets put in the “wives of heros” category and because most of them could be replaced by a sexy lamp people forget she is given agency in her part of the story.
One thing specific to Panelope is that the point or one of the points of the odyssey is that it takes for ever and is a monster every island story. To the point where odyssey became a type of story. By the time you make it to the end with Penelope many story tellers have run out of time or energy to do her justice.
She is cleaver in all of her tactics to distract her suiters. But it is still a crazy long time. To the point where i wonder if Athena intercedes for her a few times. Seems reasonable that Athena would want them to be reunited and try to help Penelope protect herself.
I admit i never really liked Odysseus even in the stories where he is less of a narcissist. So modern reimagining where it is about single mom Penelope navigating politics of the kingdom by herself while she waits for her husband to come back has potential.
What i mean is i agree that a historic greek audience would make the connections and think it less of a strech for Penelopy to succeed for so long. Now adays looking back it seems improbable how ever cleaver for Penelope to repell the guys for long with weaving tricks. Even if athena didn’t apear in front of Penelope a past audience could speculate that she was being protected by Athena.
I may of may not have spelled some names wrong. Apologies.
That would be an amazing story to tell! Gods can pop by Ithaca and see what's up, and then be jerks by not telling the soldiers what's up. I love it!
And as for my post time, I actually schedule things in advance because I film and edit things in batches. I do a lot of freelance work, in addition to my 9-to-5, so it's the way I can have anything resembling an upload schedule, haha.
@@chloeeastwood6696 besides mythology references and gods poping in. I think it has some potential to have political and social drama around panelope and her son. Kindnof how in game of thrones a castle staff or other nobles complicate matters for the lord or king being focused one.
Most of the men would have left with Odysseus. What kind of gaurd stayed behind. Are there important household staff and servants? Who is loyal to Panelope and her son and who is thinking of back stabbing. Lots of potential for panelope to show her brilliance and subversive athena like tactics. As the kid gets older he can become more of a character and have some agency.
I don’t know why hollywood hasn’t given us this movie…. Maybe it needs a successful novel first.
Well, there are a lot of successful stories like this, these days. Stone Blind, Elektra, Song of Achilles, Clytemnestra, to name but a few. Maybe you could write it!
@@chloeeastwood6696 that was probably the most interesting thing to come out of the cait corrain scandals, at least for me. Look at all these greek myth reimagining that are LGBT and and written by LGBT and/or people of color.
I typed that and then i realized you may not have caught that one depending on what corners of the internet you frequent.
During the fall out i learned about a lot of books that i need to check out.
@cattiefogelsong6399 omg yes!!!