Hey hey, it's our man from Gamespot's "Firearm Expert Reacts." He looks so much more grown up now. Lol. Good for him, he seems like a legitimately good person who's passionate about what he does for work. You don't see that enough.
I used to watch The History Channel but it became all about aliens. This is my new favorite history fix🤟🏻. Also was that Sean Bean narrating? I half expected the Oblivion music to play😂😂
Part of me thinks politicians wouldn't be so scummy if they could challenge each other to duels today, but this is politicians we're talking about, birds fly, fish swim, politicians gaslights.
Arr you kidding? It was a noble event. Field of honor. Folks weren't as apt to scree you over if they knew there was a chance of having to be held accountable. Politicians are more scum bags today because they know they face no consequences. Not all duels were with fatal weapons. It's said that Abe Lincoln settled many a political dispute with a good Ole wrestling match
There is a story of the very, very tall Aɓe Lincoln being challenged to a duel. As the challenged party Abe had tĥe right to choose weapons and location. He chose sledge hamers in 6 feet of water. His opponent was a very smart short man. The duel was not fought
It was an even more insidious proposal than at first site. Lincoln had phenomenal arm strength and like to show it off by challenging others to hold an axe out at arm's length as long as he could. No one really knows how long Lincoln could do that because no challenger was ever able to beat him at the challenge.
There was also a duel challenge in Congress shortly before the Civil War. A representative from Texas challenged a Northerner to a duel. The Northern fellow had served in the US Army in the artillery. He chose howitzers at a reasonably long range as his choice of weapon. The duel never came off as by then there extreme penalties for dueling were showing up in Northern States. One favorite trick of the day was to agree to the duel in a Northern State with very severe penalties for dueling. That generally put an end to any duels in a free state.
@@garrysekelli6776 That's BS. He was never a professional wrestler. He did, however, wrestle for certain things as an amateur. It played a part in his becoming the commander of his local militia during an Indian War, but other than that, it was most likely confined to adolescence.
Typically .58 to .69 or even .71 cal soft lead balls would do a lot of damage, including what they introduce into the wound. I remember reading a medical report from WW1 where a British soldier was shot with a .44 cal German revolver. Although the bullet was greatly slowed by his cigarette case, the bullet introduced lots of shredded tobacco into a fairly shallow chest wound. It caused a fatal infection.
In those years you were lucky! Lead is the heaviest metal that is stable. That means: not radio active. Today canon shells are depleted uranium, for that is heavier than lead. You do not want radio active bullet fragments in your wound. So, the present is worse than the past.
Yet, alcohol is forbidden in shooting competitions. A small amount actually improves your aim. I'd assume that a moderate amount would help you in a pistol duel. (A moderate amount as we understand it now, not as in Georgian times.)
I don't remember the source, but I heard most duels were fought with blanks. The Seconds would agree not to load the balls, big bang, honor satisfied, all alive and happy.
Two gentlemen standing each other across the field of honor on a beautiful Autumn morning armed with some of the finest pistols ever made....the very definition of beauty and honor.
Idk about beauty or honor. More like a possible guaranteed death sentence for both. An autumn field and two men using either rapiers or broad swords. Seems a bit more poetic. Not to mention the fact that they BOTH have a more equal chance of actually working to attain their notions of honor.
Back when a man's word meant something. A bunch of attorneys got together & made it illegal. Over night they increased the demand for their services. Everything had to be settled in courts from then on. Honesty became a liability.
@@jupitercyclops6521 There's another classic in that regard. A town had just one attorney and he had very little to do until another attorney finally moved in.
The one thing the duel at the end got wrong is you'd rarely die instantly from this kind of pistol. Most shots will give you quite a while to think about your famous last words.
I'll challenge you on that. But you are correct in most cases. I was a collateral duty firearms instructor for 19 of my 22 year law enforcement career. The pistol is one tool in the officer's kit, and like any tool you must practice with it to become expert at it's use. And that practice must be perfect, and must challenge the user. Just going to the firing range, firing a set number of rounds at a target and calling it quits yields poor performance. Contrary to popular modern belief, officer's have no desire to shoot anyone. They aren't the psychopaths, they are the level headed ones in a dangerous situation. However it is a tool that must be mastered, because when it must come out, there usually is no other option left. So marksmanship practice, as well as high stress combat shooting techniques must be taught and repeatedly drilled into the officer. So that when the proverbial crap hits the fan, the officer's instinct kicks in. As one champion police pistol competition shooter put it: fast may be fine, but accurate is final. The problem modern shooters face today is large capacity, semi automatic handguns. They learn the fundamentals using these, rather than in the old days (my time) learning using a 6 shot revolver. Compared to a semi automatic, magazib fed pistol, reloading a 6 shot revolver is very slow. So a revolver shooter takes careful aim to insure each precious round is not wasted, the semi auto shooters has 12 or more rounds immediately available with a reload only taking a couple of seconds, so the trend has become this sort of spray and pray mentality among modern shooters. The course of fire i learned on, required shooting 18 rounds, out of 48 at 25 yards, using a revolver with either a 4 inch or 2 3/4 inch barrel. I carried the latter. And I can assure you that if you can place 18 shots into the center of a target at that range, anything shorter distance is easy. Combine that with repeated high stress, rapid response drawing and shooting drills, and officers become experts with the tool. And always remember, shooting, like golf, is 95% mental and only 5% physical. So perfect practice indeed makes perfect.
@andrewallen9993 while I realize that, just as in any other occupation, there are bad police officers, the percentage is miniscule. Most of the so called "police shoot unarmed man" videos on social media, are highly edited and usually designed by their creator to create an inflammatory response. We live in the era of incredible search capability, search out the case in point, examine all of the video, examine the police bodycam video, the dash cam video, and then read all of the reports, all police involved shootings are investigated by an outside agency, then and only then form your own conclusions. It's basic investigation. In 99% of these cases you will find that the original video is highly edited, released before any other evidence, and is usually created just so the poster goes viral and makes money from the video. You will almost always discover that the so called unarmed man was in fact carry, drawing,, or even firing a firearm or a wielding knife. It is possible that the officer was bad, or made a mistake, and in such case the officer should be tried and punished for any crime committed. But never assume a video on social media, especially one that evokes strong emotion, or serves a particular narrative, is true until you have independently verified it.
I watched a documentary recently that showed that unlike other fabrics, silk can capture these low velocity balls and reduce the depth of penetration and make removing the ball a cleaner process for the surgeon
18:29 The early designs of these pistols seem so incredibly precarious. Like if one of the myriad of delicate and small parts doesnt function, the gun won't fire 😬 I'll take an unloaded musket with a bayonet, please. The syphilitic "gentlemen" dressed in powdered wigs, stockings, culottes, makeup and heels can feel free to call me "uncouth" or whatever
Great overview of a largely forgotten aspect of historical culture. My only quibble (a minor one) is that the reenactors at the end are dressed like Victorian dockworkers. The working class didn't fight this way. The poor settled their differences with fists, and the middle class with lawyers. Dueling was strictly for gentlemen. "Pistols for two and coffee for one."
In Germany and Austria, students fraternities still fight duels with swords (fencing). Although not to the death but with the aim of hitting some part of the face or head with eye, nose and ear protection.
My town has a ducumented dueling ground. We are across the Ohio River from Louisville. The area, which is now known as a campground for unhoused peopl3, will be incorporated into a large riverside park, connecting the three towns on our side of the river.
The last duel fought in England , in 1852 was between two French exiles. It took place in a field on Priest Hill, near Englefield Green, the loser ,Frederic Cournet who was fatally wounded was carried to the local pub, The barley Mow, where he died. The winner of the duel, Emmanuel Barthelemy, was arrested , charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter and served 6 months. He was later convicted of another murder and hanged ! You can still get a pint in The Barley Mow, which is said to be haunted by Cournet !
This ought to be interesting. I used to work at The Hermitage, Andrew Jackson’s mansion and I taught and demonstrated 18th/19th century pistol dueling from the TN/KY area. I gave full tours of the inside of his home then there would be a sort of show where I have a flintlock pistol with some caps from a cap gun that be get up in the so it makes a snap when I get shot or shoot. There would be a teaching and then also at the same time acting it out.
I could deal with fewer super close ups in the recreative footage. Must be a copying for free issue . Nice coverage of the post sword dueling era ….Subscribed.
Usually the duel was at a distance of 20 steps... You gentlemen stood a little closer and knew that there would be no return shot... but the shooting result was good.
Even elementary training as a soldier does indeed make a difference. Some facts learnt about fire arms I will never forget. A very funny one is the warning shot. Never shoot up, inside a building, you'd get a cloud of concrete dust. Aim at a window. The things you learn are very practical. Untrained civilians are still full of myths.
If no one has seen the Tom lea duel , in the miniseries of roots. Definitely recommend the series . Probably the most badass thing ive seen. As a southerner I assume this is the origin of it.
@@StarkIller-df7gw Southerners amplified it bye 100 fold. Here in Savannah Georgia it got so bad. Georgia passed the Savannah anti dueling laws , but it actually made it worse. 😆
I’m not sure why they were having so many misfires with that flintlock in that controlled environment. Surely there was no extreme amount of moisture. I can only come to the conclusion that the flint needed knapped badly or they were purposely not adding powder to the pan or adding very little to create a dramatic effect. I’m no expert but I’m a black powder/flintlock enthusiast and it just seems extreme to prove a point under ideal conditions. Other than that I really enjoyed this documentary as with others from this channel. Keep it up!❤
In November 2008, I published an extremely provocative text in the Brazilian Press Observatory. "The debate in the media heats up and cools down, but nothing happens. The torturers remain free, receiving pensions paid for by their victims' taxes. In 1967, when I was three years old, my house was kicked in several times by the dictatorship's gorillas. To this day, the Army that carried out the coup d'état [in 1964] has not apologized to me. No military personnel were punished. The disgusting right clings to the Amnesty Law as if it were good to preserve impunity for criminals in uniform. The dishonest left cowered because of the compensation they receive. I don't want money from the Brazilian State. And I don't accept impunity from the military. Since justice will not be served, I decided to provide a personal solution to the problem. Hereby, I challenge anyone interested in defending the honor of the dictatorship to a duel with a pistol, 20 steps away. Conditions for the duel 1) The interested party must have, at least, the rank of active or retired colonel in the Army (or equivalent rank in the Navy or Air Force) - I do not intend to earn 12 years in prison for killing a subaltern; 2) The interested party will have to present a recent medical certificate proving that they do not have Parkinson's or Alzheimer's disease - I do not intend to kill a rotten old man who is unable to aim or who will forget to put the primer on the pistol; 3) The interested party will have to demonstrate ability to use a 19th century pistol - I do not intend to have an advantage over an animal that only knows how to use modern and automatic weapons and has never fired a weapon suitable for dueling; 4) The duel will take place on the lawn in front of the National Congress, in Brasília, on a date to be scheduled in advance and will be filmed remotely by a TV crew - I do not intend to kill anyone in secret or in hiding, as the military did Brazilians during the dictatorship; 5) The mediator of the duel will be a military attaché from any of the Embassies in Brasília - except the American embassy because I don't like Americans; 6) On the day of the duel, the duelists will have to be dressed appropriately, wearing a white t-shirt - I do not intend to duel with a cowardly soldier who wears a bulletproof vest; 7) The rules of the duel will be simple: each duelist receives their pistol, loads it and heads to the shooting location. At the shooting location, he places the primer on the weapon and waits for the command to fire, takes aim and fires. One man, one shot. Strictly equal conditions." I didn't mention the name of the person I was challenging, but anyone who knows Brazil's recent history knows that I was referring to an army colonel who killed approximately 60 people and tortured 500 or more people. My challenge was not accepted, but it served the purpose of offending and humiliating disgraced soldiers who mistreated, tortured and killed the people they were supposed to defend.
I grew up close to the site of the last duel fought in England, In 1845 two Frenchmen, Emmanuel Barthelemy and Frederic Cournet, fought a duel with pistols in a field on Priest Hill near Runnymede, Surrey. after a couple of misfires, Cournet was mortally wounded. He was carried to "The Barley Mow pub on Englefield Green, where he succumbed to his wound. Barthelemy fled to London where he was arrested and charged with murder. He was convicted of a lesser charge of Manslaughter. After serving only a short sentence he was released, but was later charged with another murder, and subsequently Hanged
There were tests made with 40 layers or more of wet silk. That actually can stop a black powder bullet. There are also reports of duelists - even if it would be interpreted as cowardice in some cases - that wore those early "bulletproof vests".
Our esteemed warrior-president Andrew Jackon intentionally shot an opponent in the groin in one of his seven or so duels. Like many duelists who sought to satisfy honor without shedding blood, founding father Alexander Hamilton fired his pistol in the air. His opponent, Aaron Burr, had not the same mercy, aimed for, and got the kill. We lost a brilliant man that day.
Dueling makes absolutely no sense. You have a disagreement, so you have a duel. If you “win” by shooting your opponent, what have you proven? That you’re the better shot, or perhaps just luckier, but certainly not that you were in the right in the original argument.
It was about "honor" and was usually when an arguement went past any logic and insults are being exchanged. No it doesnt make "sense" by todays standards, probably why we dont do it anymore.
I'll go along with that, but back in the days of the American Wild, Wild West men found it was safer to shoot their adversary in the back. Thus ended many famous gunmen like Wild Bill Hickok and John Wesley Hardin.
Imagine how times have changed, in those days a millionaire will challenge another millionaire to a dual and there was no way out, today millionaire have lors if security guard around because they don't want to be challenge by anyone lol
How much less violence would there be today if we brought back dueling? I have felt for decades that we need to allow it. Have a small caliber cap and ball pistol, .32 maybe. I think it would end a lot of gang violence.
How/Why would it _end a lot of gang violence?_ It is safe to say that most members of gangs have no concept of honor, courage or anything else that a duel is designed to test.
As a child, I never understood why the leaders of countries weren't expected to fight the other leaders for whatever they were wanting. Why was it always left to those just wanting to survive?
Be nice if they brought dueling back. So many problems solved! Talk shit and you dead imagine the peace of mind this brought to society? I mean sure theres some friends and family crying but it really must have cause to people to be more respectful to one another!
We wouldn't have all these lunatics running around town doing as they please & being so darn rude to everyone! Same as taking away disciplining kids now teachers cant even smack them on the bum for being naughty & they grow up with no accountability!! I say bring back the dual!! 😂😂🤠👍
I'm not sure where to comment. The idea gentry had a right to shoot each other is the core of othering. Victorian people lined up infantry to shoot at colonials, new or in process. I appreciate the point of the show being dueling pistols from an engineering perspective. Not one dueling "gentleman" would dare go out on the street. This is why Americans worship the idea of the "good guy with a gun." Maybe pivot from history and ask why people think firearms solve all their problems now..
All the people making comments about how stupid dueling was and we don't do it anymore there are hundreds of duels every day in America they're called drive-by shootings do you have two people or two groups of people who want to kill each other and they shoot up the whole town trying to do it would it not be better for them to just go out in the field in the middle of nowhere and settle it
Sean Bean as narrator?! Awesome!
I was wondering if it was him
I was waiting for him to show up and get killed, like he does in 90% of anything he appears in. He was a great narrator!
no its not... thats my Lord Stark from Winterfell... haha who would have a silly name like Sean Bean haha!!!
Omg os the narrator gonna get shot??
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Hey hey, it's our man from Gamespot's "Firearm Expert Reacts." He looks so much more grown up now. Lol. Good for him, he seems like a legitimately good person who's passionate about what he does for work. You don't see that enough.
Thanks!
imagine waking up with a massive hangover,
only to find you'd got yourself into a duel!
I would like to hear the story as it must have been a fun night of drinking 🍸 😅 🤔 😂😂🤠👍
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Not again!
Who am I dueling this time?
(Postpone it til the morrow. Idk, just tell them a personal matter came up)
I used to watch The History Channel but it became all about aliens. This is my new favorite history fix🤟🏻. Also was that Sean Bean narrating? I half expected the Oblivion music to play😂😂
I prefer aliens to the ridiculous fabrications about the achievements/importance of everyone other than European Christian men.
Someone's comment got deleted 🤣🤣
@@CW19941 There is no need to censor fools, since their ignorance speaks for itself.
It is only the inconvenient truths that have to be silenced.
You’re right, Aliens, Bigfoot,And ghosts!.. That channel sure went downhill.
@@mikeseier4449 I feel like they should have changed it to The "History" Channel🤣
Great job uploading these videos!
Barry Lyndon fan here.
Great Kubrick film!
Part of me thinks politicians wouldn't be so scummy if they could challenge each other to duels today, but this is politicians we're talking about, birds fly, fish swim, politicians gaslights.
Arr you kidding?
It was a noble event.
Field of honor.
Folks weren't as apt to scree you over if they knew there was a chance of having to be held accountable.
Politicians are more scum bags today because they know they face no consequences.
Not all duels were with fatal weapons.
It's said that Abe Lincoln settled many a political dispute with a good Ole wrestling match
Yeah they need to bring dueling back for real
The practice should be brought back. My honor has sustained too great of an injury to accept your apology, Sir.
Very well, then I challenge you. Unfortunately I'll need you to split the bill seeing as we have to get a ship to take us to international waters
Got it wrong old boy. Having one of duelist facing into the sun? Simply not done.
Jonathan Ferguson looks so young in this
yeah, was about to comment this. I got mentally flashbanged when I realized it was actually him
But seriously, who knows more about early-mid 19th century combat than Sean Bean! Excellent choice for narration! "King George commands and..."😊
There is a story of the very, very tall Aɓe Lincoln being challenged to a duel. As the challenged party Abe had tĥe right to choose weapons and location. He chose sledge hamers in 6 feet of water. His opponent was a very smart short man. The duel was not fought
He was crazy. I also heard of him chosing broadswords as weapons of choice for a duel. Needless to say the opponent didn't do it and backed out. 😂
It was an even more insidious proposal than at first site. Lincoln had phenomenal arm strength and like to show it off by challenging others to hold an axe out at arm's length as long as he could. No one really knows how long Lincoln could do that because no challenger was ever able to beat him at the challenge.
There was also a duel challenge in Congress shortly before the Civil War. A representative from Texas challenged a Northerner to a duel. The Northern fellow had served in the US Army in the artillery. He chose howitzers at a reasonably long range as his choice of weapon. The duel never came off as by then there extreme penalties for dueling were showing up in Northern States. One favorite trick of the day was to agree to the duel in a Northern State with very severe penalties for dueling. That generally put an end to any duels in a free state.
Lincoln was a professional wrestler in his day. Basically like president Kamacho from the Idiocracy film.
@@garrysekelli6776 That's BS. He was never a professional wrestler. He did, however, wrestle for certain things as an amateur. It played a part in his becoming the commander of his local militia during an Indian War, but other than that, it was most likely confined to adolescence.
The solid, high-caliber lead balls used in those days caused a lot of damage; shattering the bones in their path.
And the bullets they used weren't to be underestimated either.
Typically .58 to .69 or even .71 cal soft lead balls would do a lot of damage, including what they introduce into the wound.
I remember reading a medical report from WW1 where a British soldier was shot with a .44 cal German revolver. Although the bullet was greatly slowed by his cigarette case, the bullet introduced lots of shredded tobacco into a fairly shallow chest wound. It caused a fatal infection.
@@sharonrigs7999 So he actually died from tabbacco!! 😂
In those years you were lucky! Lead is the heaviest metal that is stable. That means: not radio active. Today canon shells are depleted uranium, for that is heavier than lead. You do not want radio active bullet fragments in your wound. So, the present is worse than the past.
@@voornaam3191 Nope
Yet, alcohol is forbidden in shooting competitions. A small amount actually improves your aim. I'd assume that a moderate amount would help you in a pistol duel. (A moderate amount as we understand it now, not as in Georgian times.)
Or alcohol is much stronger and alcohol affects people differently a small amount of time will put me to sleep for example
Yes, in Switzerrland we use to call a ahort drink fore shoooting "aim-water" (Zielwasser).
@@piushalg8175Wow just like in finland
@@piushalg8175 Interesting I never knew that!! Cool 😎 👍
One does not simply walk into a pistol duel!
👌One simple does not insult my honour!!! I demand satisfaction!!! Love Sean Bean 👍👍
Bring back dueling
I don't remember the source, but I heard most duels were fought with blanks. The Seconds would agree not to load the balls, big bang, honor satisfied, all alive and happy.
That makes sense, it's all bluster.
Two gentlemen standing each other across the field of honor on a beautiful Autumn morning armed with some of the finest pistols ever made....the very definition of beauty and honor.
Utter stupidity to let too much testosterone and make of fool of ones self.
Idk about beauty or honor.
More like a possible guaranteed death sentence for both.
An autumn field and two men using either rapiers or broad swords. Seems a bit more poetic.
Not to mention the fact that they BOTH have a more equal chance of actually working to attain their notions of honor.
@@ravenrise320 And to think men like to accuse women of having hormones that are out of control......
Back when a man's word meant something.
A bunch of attorneys got together & made it illegal.
Over night they increased the demand for their services.
Everything had to be settled in courts from then on.
Honesty became a liability.
@@jupitercyclops6521 There's another classic in that regard. A town had just one attorney and he had very little to do until another attorney finally moved in.
The one thing the duel at the end got wrong is you'd rarely die instantly from this kind of pistol. Most shots will give you quite a while to think about your famous last words.
I grew up next to a firing range. My observation: most pistol shots miss.
I'll challenge you on that. But you are correct in most cases. I was a collateral duty firearms instructor for 19 of my 22 year law enforcement career. The pistol is one tool in the officer's kit, and like any tool you must practice with it to become expert at it's use. And that practice must be perfect, and must challenge the user. Just going to the firing range, firing a set number of rounds at a target and calling it quits yields poor performance.
Contrary to popular modern belief, officer's have no desire to shoot anyone. They aren't the psychopaths, they are the level headed ones in a dangerous situation.
However it is a tool that must be mastered, because when it must come out, there usually is no other option left.
So marksmanship practice, as well as high stress combat shooting techniques must be taught and repeatedly drilled into the officer. So that when the proverbial crap hits the fan, the officer's instinct kicks in.
As one champion police pistol competition shooter put it: fast may be fine, but accurate is final.
The problem modern shooters face today is large capacity, semi automatic handguns. They learn the fundamentals using these, rather than in the old days (my time) learning using a 6 shot revolver. Compared to a semi automatic, magazib fed pistol, reloading a 6 shot revolver is very slow. So a revolver shooter takes careful aim to insure each precious round is not wasted, the semi auto shooters has 12 or more rounds immediately available with a reload only taking a couple of seconds, so the trend has become this sort of spray and pray mentality among modern shooters.
The course of fire i learned on, required shooting 18 rounds, out of 48 at 25 yards, using a revolver with either a 4 inch or 2 3/4 inch barrel. I carried the latter. And I can assure you that if you can place 18 shots into the center of a target at that range, anything shorter distance is easy. Combine that with repeated high stress, rapid response drawing and shooting drills, and officers become experts with the tool. And always remember, shooting, like golf, is 95% mental and only 5% physical.
So perfect practice indeed makes perfect.
Pistols don't miss, people do. Those shots landed somewhere.
Grew up next to a firing range!… Damn; It must of been difficult to sleep at night!?
@@briannicholas2757 If police aren't psychopaths as you claim why do they shoot so many unarmed people in the back?
@andrewallen9993 while I realize that, just as in any other occupation, there are bad police officers, the percentage is miniscule.
Most of the so called "police shoot unarmed man" videos on social media, are highly edited and usually designed by their creator to create an inflammatory response.
We live in the era of incredible search capability, search out the case in point, examine all of the video, examine the police bodycam video, the dash cam video, and then read all of the reports, all police involved shootings are investigated by an outside agency, then and only then form your own conclusions. It's basic investigation. In 99% of these cases you will find that the original video is highly edited, released before any other evidence, and is usually created just so the poster goes viral and makes money from the video. You will almost always discover that the so called unarmed man was in fact carry, drawing,, or even firing a firearm or a wielding knife.
It is possible that the officer was bad, or made a mistake, and in such case the officer should be tried and punished for any crime committed.
But never assume a video on social media, especially one that evokes strong emotion, or serves a particular narrative, is true until you have independently verified it.
It's tough being a George during those days..
Imagine going to a meeting being Sean Bean.
The door opens:
”…Mr Bean?”
Thank you for your time!
I watched a documentary recently that showed that unlike other fabrics, silk can capture these low velocity balls and reduce the depth of penetration and make removing the ball a cleaner process for the surgeon
I think I am correct. The earliest attempt at " bullet proof " vests did use silk as its main component.
18:29 The early designs of these pistols seem so incredibly precarious. Like if one of the myriad of delicate and small parts doesnt function, the gun won't fire 😬
I'll take an unloaded musket with a bayonet, please.
The syphilitic "gentlemen" dressed in powdered wigs, stockings, culottes, makeup and heels can feel free to call me "uncouth" or whatever
I dare say, sir. How uncouth!
Great overview of a largely forgotten aspect of historical culture. My only quibble (a minor one) is that the reenactors at the end are dressed like Victorian dockworkers. The working class didn't fight this way. The poor settled their differences with fists, and the middle class with lawyers. Dueling was strictly for gentlemen. "Pistols for two and coffee for one."
Thanks for posting,
In Germany and Austria, students fraternities still fight duels with swords (fencing). Although not to the death but with the aim of hitting some part of the face or head with eye, nose and ear protection.
How much this dueling have influence of cowboy style dueling? 🤔😅
My town has a ducumented dueling ground. We are across the Ohio River from Louisville. The area, which is now known as a campground for unhoused peopl3, will be incorporated into a large riverside park, connecting the three towns on our side of the river.
ok .. if dueling was prohibited but took place nonetheless then what did they do with the dead ... did they just leave 'em where the fell??
The last duel fought in England , in 1852 was between two French exiles. It took place in a field on Priest Hill, near Englefield Green, the loser ,Frederic Cournet who was fatally wounded was carried to the local pub, The barley Mow, where he died. The winner of the duel, Emmanuel Barthelemy, was arrested , charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter and served 6 months. He was later convicted of another murder and hanged ! You can still get a pint in The Barley Mow, which is said to be haunted by Cournet !
I knew this would be a great documentary as soon as I heard the narrator's voice.
This ought to be interesting. I used to work at The Hermitage, Andrew Jackson’s mansion and I taught and demonstrated 18th/19th century pistol dueling from the TN/KY area. I gave full tours of the inside of his home then there would be a sort of show where I have a flintlock pistol with some caps from a cap gun that be get up in the so it makes a snap when I get shot or shoot. There would be a teaching and then also at the same time acting it out.
I could deal with fewer super close ups in the recreative footage. Must be a copying for free issue . Nice coverage of the post sword dueling era ….Subscribed.
I like how the dueling "researcher" never even touched the pistol
Usually the duel was at a distance of 20 steps... You gentlemen stood a little closer and knew that there would be no return shot... but the shooting result was good.
Even elementary training as a soldier does indeed make a difference. Some facts learnt about fire arms I will never forget. A very funny one is the warning shot. Never shoot up, inside a building, you'd get a cloud of concrete dust. Aim at a window. The things you learn are very practical. Untrained civilians are still full of myths.
If no one has seen the Tom lea duel , in the miniseries of roots. Definitely recommend the series . Probably the most badass thing ive seen. As a southerner I assume this is the origin of it.
Duels originated in continental Europe!!
@@StarkIller-df7gw Southerners amplified it bye 100 fold. Here in Savannah Georgia it got so bad. Georgia passed the Savannah anti dueling laws , but it actually made it worse. 😆
To be honest, society today needs to bring dueling back.
We call it, "Flinter's Flinch," Wait until it's right under your eye!
Cor blimey, Jonathan Ferguson's so young in this one!
Definitely Sean Bean..Can't hide that "Yorkshire" accent.
One does not simply engage in a duel...
I’m not sure why they were having so many misfires with that flintlock in that controlled environment. Surely there was no extreme amount of moisture. I can only come to the conclusion that the flint needed knapped badly or they were purposely not adding powder to the pan or adding very little to create a dramatic effect. I’m no expert but I’m a black powder/flintlock enthusiast and it just seems extreme to prove a point under ideal conditions. Other than that I really enjoyed this documentary as with others from this channel. Keep it up!❤
A rainy day may have been a good one for many. Showed up. Washed out but Honor of both parties satisfied and so, off to the local inn for fire & grog.
In November 2008, I published an extremely provocative text in the Brazilian Press Observatory.
"The debate in the media heats up and cools down, but nothing happens. The torturers remain free, receiving pensions paid for by their victims' taxes.
In 1967, when I was three years old, my house was kicked in several times by the dictatorship's gorillas. To this day, the Army that carried out the coup d'état [in 1964] has not apologized to me. No military personnel were punished.
The disgusting right clings to the Amnesty Law as if it were good to preserve impunity for criminals in uniform. The dishonest left cowered because of the compensation they receive.
I don't want money from the Brazilian State. And I don't accept impunity from the military. Since justice will not be served, I decided to provide a personal solution to the problem.
Hereby, I challenge anyone interested in defending the honor of the dictatorship to a duel with a pistol, 20 steps away.
Conditions for the duel
1) The interested party must have, at least, the rank of active or retired colonel in the Army (or equivalent rank in the Navy or Air Force) - I do not intend to earn 12 years in prison for killing a subaltern;
2) The interested party will have to present a recent medical certificate proving that they do not have Parkinson's or Alzheimer's disease - I do not intend to kill a rotten old man who is unable to aim or who will forget to put the primer on the pistol;
3) The interested party will have to demonstrate ability to use a 19th century pistol - I do not intend to have an advantage over an animal that only knows how to use modern and automatic weapons and has never fired a weapon suitable for dueling;
4) The duel will take place on the lawn in front of the National Congress, in Brasília, on a date to be scheduled in advance and will be filmed remotely by a TV crew - I do not intend to kill anyone in secret or in hiding, as the military did Brazilians during the dictatorship;
5) The mediator of the duel will be a military attaché from any of the Embassies in Brasília - except the American embassy because I don't like Americans;
6) On the day of the duel, the duelists will have to be dressed appropriately, wearing a white t-shirt - I do not intend to duel with a cowardly soldier who wears a bulletproof vest;
7) The rules of the duel will be simple: each duelist receives their pistol, loads it and heads to the shooting location. At the shooting location, he places the primer on the weapon and waits for the command to fire, takes aim and fires.
One man, one shot. Strictly equal conditions."
I didn't mention the name of the person I was challenging, but anyone who knows Brazil's recent history knows that I was referring to an army colonel who killed approximately 60 people and tortured 500 or more people. My challenge was not accepted, but it served the purpose of offending and humiliating disgraced soldiers who mistreated, tortured and killed the people they were supposed to defend.
I grew up close to the site of the last duel fought in England, In 1845 two Frenchmen, Emmanuel Barthelemy and Frederic Cournet, fought a duel with pistols in a field on Priest Hill near Runnymede, Surrey. after a couple of misfires, Cournet was mortally wounded. He was carried to "The Barley Mow pub on Englefield Green, where he succumbed to his wound. Barthelemy fled to London where he was arrested and charged with murder. He was convicted of a lesser charge of Manslaughter. After serving only a short sentence he was released, but was later charged with another murder, and subsequently Hanged
how is it a duel if it's a manslaughter? Details of your boring ass story don't add up
Because of this channel, I love history more than ever.
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We need to bring back dueling. And have Sean Bean narrate it in front of a live tik tok audience 😅
So the vile Mr. Wickham, being an army officer, would most probably have killed the noble civilian Mr. Darcy.
Dueling needs to make a come back
If it did there would be a lot less people getting offended by everything
The words of the late Gov. Senator of Georgia... Zell Miller..." It's a shame Dueling has gone out of Style".
I have been saying the very same thing for for two decades..
Yes, it should come back..
And please do bring back swords as well..
That Wellington duel was much ado about nothing in the end, as were most duels.
There were tests made with 40 layers or more of wet silk. That actually can stop a black powder bullet. There are also reports of duelists - even if it would be interpreted as cowardice in some cases - that wore those early "bulletproof vests".
Let’s bring back duelling.
Our esteemed warrior-president Andrew Jackon intentionally shot an opponent in the groin in one of his seven or so duels.
Like many duelists who sought to satisfy honor without shedding blood, founding father Alexander Hamilton fired his pistol in the air. His opponent, Aaron Burr, had not the same mercy, aimed for, and got the kill. We lost a brilliant man that day.
I read somewhere that Jackson had already killed 6 men in duels before he became President.
I heard it was questionable whether Hamilton fired in the air intentionally, or just missed/was unlucky.
@face2thescr33n3 Hmm. Yeah, we need to be careful not to repeat historical legend as fact. Thanks for the clarification.
Jackson himself sustained a serious wound in the chest. It caused him trouble the rest of his life. @@carmenm.4091
Why did that reporter jump? He knew it was going to be fired, and he was even wearing ear muffs. Brits sure aren't used to firearms.
They were disarmed sometime after 1776, for some _unknown_ reason.
There’s a quite a flash from the pan. Maybe he didn’t expect that I’m not sure but it was indeed funny lol
Narrated by Sean Bean?! Yes please!!! 😄
It's funny to see a younger jonathan ferguson. He has become a well know face with recent youtube presence
A multiple minute long intro that stretches forever is a real bad choice
Dueling makes absolutely no sense. You have a disagreement, so you have a duel. If you “win” by shooting your opponent, what have you proven? That you’re the better shot, or perhaps just luckier, but certainly not that you were in the right in the original argument.
If you've gotten to the point of wanting to inflict bodily harm on another person, sense and reason have already gone out the window
Now now them's fighting words. 😄
I disagree Sir! I challenge you to a duel!!
It was about "honor" and was usually when an arguement went past any logic and insults are being exchanged. No it doesnt make "sense" by todays standards, probably why we dont do it anymore.
It's fear that does it. Fear of being called a coward.
Sean Bean could read the phone book and make it sound badass.
Like a silly British comedy..The Brits are hilarious and fascinating at the same time.
Yankees are grotesque and grotesque at the same time.
Let's bring duels back, instead of drive bys.
I'll go along with that, but back in the days of the American Wild, Wild West men found it was safer to shoot their adversary in the back.
Thus ended many famous gunmen like Wild Bill Hickok and John Wesley Hardin.
who better to talk about honor than Ned Stark (Sean Bean) himself?
Ned Stark? I thought it was Richard Sharpe.
Imagine how times have changed, in those days a millionaire will challenge another millionaire to a dual and there was no way out, today millionaire have lors if security guard around because they don't want to be challenge by anyone lol
Dueling probably instilled better manners in people.
I wonder what happens if you duel a .357 vs flintlock
"when i was your age, we dueled with SWORDS like civilized people!! 😡" - 18th century boomers
And it was a lot more fun, too!
The absurd number of commercials makes this unwatchable. Pity. Seems like an interesting video.
How much less violence would there be today if we brought back dueling? I have felt for decades that we need to allow it. Have a small caliber cap and ball pistol, .32 maybe. I think it would end a lot of gang violence.
How/Why would it _end a lot of gang violence?_
It is safe to say that most members of gangs have no concept of honor, courage or anything else that a duel is designed to test.
I doubt they would accept any duels
Yes more gun violence will end gun violence. Do you work for the NRA by chance?
As a child, I never understood why the leaders of countries weren't expected to fight the other leaders for whatever they were wanting. Why was it always left to those just wanting to survive?
I noticed something you missed in your list of reasons to fight....money!
Sean bean
Facts
What a bloodthirsty society where murder is allowed so freely like this
families that did not get along with each other settled inheritance and Other beefs
Be nice if they brought dueling back. So many problems solved! Talk shit and you dead imagine the peace of mind this brought to society? I mean sure theres some friends and family crying but it really must have cause to people to be more respectful to one another!
We wouldn't have all these lunatics running around town doing as they please & being so darn rude to everyone! Same as taking away disciplining kids now teachers cant even smack them on the bum for being naughty & they grow up with no accountability!! I say bring back the dual!! 😂😂🤠👍
Duel, schmuel, why do you think God invented bushwacking?
How about a video about the fine art of the sucker punch throughout history?
Sean Bean does not die in this scene
We still have duelling, it's just informal now. Plenty of people still get shot for infidelity or petty grievances.
In uncivilized countries maybe
@@Bamboule05 uncivilised countries? Lol Americans kill each other everyday over divorce and child custody.
is that... sean bean?
If Shaun Bean was in a Deul, we all know that much to our shagrin he would die 😂
I'm not sure where to comment. The idea gentry had a right to shoot each other is the core of othering.
Victorian people lined up infantry to shoot at colonials, new or in process.
I appreciate the point of the show being dueling pistols from an engineering perspective.
Not one dueling "gentleman" would dare go out on the street.
This is why Americans worship the idea of the "good guy with a gun."
Maybe pivot from history and ask why people think firearms solve all their problems now..
Damn man. Ned Stark is still eating off of that season 1 role?
I just like to say early fire are suck so most shots fired in a duel don't hit anyone
Ok sean bean...ok....i see you.
These scholars never went to public school
All the people making comments about how stupid dueling was and we don't do it anymore there are hundreds of duels every day in America they're called drive-by shootings do you have two people or two groups of people who want to kill each other and they shoot up the whole town trying to do it would it not be better for them to just go out in the field in the middle of nowhere and settle it
historian was wrong when he mentioned steroids. they weren't available around that time.
What passes for 'HONOUR' these days?
sharpe 95th riffle
To bad we can't go back to this guarantee you that we would have a lot less false accusations
Hungover means still feeling drunk. Over hung means your junk is too big.
I can imagine that most of the time it was over a woman!!!
Its trial by combat
Killing is not natural.... says an animal with sharp teeth and eyes on the front of his head.
okay, that patterning after the shooting is NOT "dead accurate" by any modern standard
But a 50 cal ball hitting you in that pattern is sure going to put you off your breakfast!
the solid unjacketed lead part is probably the worse part, the musket balls at least probably expand, possibly pistol balls too@@robbrowne8814
But yet the British people don't have a right to keep and bear arms
Ned Stark!
That "curator" needs to go back to school. Like watching John Clesse in Fawlty Towers.
Were you home-schooled?
In the USofA?
Pretty sure he is far more qualified and educated than you