Hey, hey LotR Fam. 👋🏾This particular video took longer to edit since I was reacting to entire scenes from the FotR, so there were some copyright issues. But fortunately, I had the time to get it all completed for you all today. :) This was such a delight for me to get a chance to see these special scenes again. As you will see, I was quite stunned by the sheer number of deleted scenes there were, and also by the content of the scenes themselves. OMG...what a difficult task it must've been to have to make the final decisions. I'm just so thrilled that I decided to watch the Extended Edition first. I now realize just how much of a treat this was for me. I hope you all enjoy my reaction, even though I keep saying, "I can't believe they took this out," the whole time. LOL...All righty, I'll see you beautiful folks again next week with some more BTS fun as we move on to the Two Towers. 🥳 Until next time, Let's Flow! 🎬 #lotr #behindthescene #behindthescenesmagic
All they needed to do was take out “how many did you eat” , replacing it with Frodo and Gandalf outside of Moria… that scene was too precious and was the most well lit scene ontop of everything else, not to mention superb lighting for that foreshadowing scene. Whenever they give Gandalf those angles and tints he feels even more like Gandalf ! Especially similar to the blue tint he had when talking to Frodo to never put the ring on before he rode off… despite the many deviations from the books that you’ll come to enjoy when reacting to a channel called “Fact or Fantasy”. His voice and storytelling also is very immersive and compelling. ❤❤❤
I thought that scene between Merry and Pippin was hilarious, but I can see why you would say they should've replaced that with the Gandalf and Frodo in Moria scene. Choosing which scenes to delete is a tough call. Kudos to whoever had to do this task.
Regarding Gandalf Lament - the song heard is literally elves singing for his sake whilst being a theme for the movie itself. This was expanded & set to music by Philippa Boyens & Howard Shore, respectively, The Fellowship of the Ring. It was sung in the said film by Elizabeth Fraser in the track Lothlórien. Notable about this song is that it assumes that the elves of Lothlórien were aware that Gandalf was an incarnate Maia. This is debatable. As well, the lyrics ask "What drove you to leave/That which you loved?". This suggests that Gandalf was well aware that he would fall in Moria. Other verses include Gandalf (Olórin is his true name as abeing the wisest of the primordial ageless Maiar spirits), and that with him the Flame of Anor would leave the world (assuming that it and he were one, or he was the only wielder of the Flame). (English comes after the Quenya) * The first part is in Quenya: A Olórin i yáresse Mentaner i Númenherui Tírien i Rómenóri Maiaron i Oiosaila Manan elye etevanne Nórie i melanelye? - The Second part is in Sindarin: Mithrandir, Mithrandir, A Randir Vithren ú-reniathach i amar galen I reniad lín ne mór, nuithannen In gwidh ristennin, i fae narchannen I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen Caled veleg, ethuiannen. **”Olórin, who once was... Sent by the Lords of the West To guard the lands of the East Wisest of all Maiar What drove you to leave That which you loved? Mithrandir, Mithrandir O Pilgrim Grey No more will you wander the green fields of this earth Your journey has ended in darkness. The bonds cut, the spirit broken The Flame of Anor has left this World A great light, extinguished.” ** And Since Gandalf is tied to the story and fate of the elves as he is one of the Maiar spirits is that when one perishes it tends to be a big deal when something like one “dies” if you will. Spending thousands of years together even in his current embodiment is still greatly impactful upon his death.
Remember - Extended scenes & their importance: 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin! (An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.) 2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time. 3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer. 4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall. (And the second film ex edition shows big backstory for Boromir so don’t miss out on it) 5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books). 6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel). That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn! 7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
Having seen them both i prefer the extended versions as i feel some parts help show not just more of middle earth but more of the details that fill in some gaps. Like Sarumans fall and how the palantir was then found by pippin falling out of sarumans gown. Had a friend who was blown away by the ext version as they had never seen it and would themselves point out the bits they had never seen before. Was fun for us both
Wow, yeah I bet it was fun for both of you. Reacting to these videos for you all makes me feel like I have some friends to share my surprise and delight with too :)
English below) - Moria gate Gandalf said : “Annon edhellen, edro hi ammen! Fennas nogothrim, lasto beth lammen!” = “Elvish gate, open now for us! Doorway of the Nargothrond dwarf-folk, listen to the word of my tongue!" ((Nargothrond is very special. Galadriels eldest of 4 brothers named Finrod Felagund literally discovered & befriended mankind first. Along with the dwarves of several clans who carved that megalithic fortress region alongside his band of elves who were in his most loyal company. Together they and the dwarves made many great things. Felagund is his name given by the dwarves. Narvi and Celebrimbor created the door together as well as what made Eregion the most shining elvish cultural heartbeat of middle earth especially after Doriath and Gondolin no longer exist (for now) due to Beleriand sinking to bottom of sea from the War Of Wrath. A lot of the reason why third age exists is thanks to Finrod doing all of his deeds and saving the life of Beren which allowed Lúthien to arrive in time to rescue Beren and banish Gorthaur (not Sauron yet.)
Yes. I’ll answer your question again. There are tons of Two Towers BTS stuff but they might not be in the playlist. There is like 8 and they’re like 40 minutes long each…
Currently, I don't know anyone who hasn't seen it, and who would be willing to watch it for the first time in front of a camera. But, who knows? I could make a new friend in a few weeks. Lol, probably not, but hope feels good. :)
Arwen’s deep voice is from her grandmother Galadriel! Among all elven women it was said that Galadriel was the one with the lowest voice with similar cadence to male elves which was no less ethereal.
Oh, that's an interesting piece of info there. I was referring to the fact that they suggested the actress Liv Tyler to lower the register of her own voice for the character of Arwen. I had no idea that it had anything to do with Galadriel.
@@flowstatereactionsas you and another have said : this is the only set of films that we want more to be ADDED. We won’t mind a 10 hour movie with ten intermissions and we camp all around the place indoors and outdoors like we used to do when they came out in theatres. Tons of people travelled for hundreds of miles to get to see these movies more than once. Travelling across the country long before DVD
Sadly the Gandalf and Frodo Moria scene was taken completely out. It was one of the few foreshadowing scenes that accomplished so much with both world building and character building simultaneously! They removed a lot from Galadriel too which is what irks me the most…
Yeah, that was particularly startling to see that they cut the speech with Gandalf and Frodo in Moria. I'm still in disbelief actually. I'm so glad I watched the Extended Edition first.
Before your re-reaction to Fellowship Of The Ring please react to the few minute song by Clamavi De Profundis - Bilbo’s last song. It’s a direct song from the books I believe. Either way it’s still a Tolkienian level set of lyrics paired with a stellar set of instrumentals that will truly make the tingles return all over again and bring back a deeper sense of nostalgia for you.
I never will understand the people who argue for theatrical versus extended. Maybe they think the reactor will then do the extended editions, but most people will watch whichever version they watch exactly once and never watch either version again so I prefer they watch the extended editions to get the most they can. I have heard a lot of reactors comment about the movies being so long, not one so far has gotten to end of the extended editions without saying "Wait, that's it?!?" and without a single complaint about the runtime. I think I may have checked all of the LOTR reactions on TH-cam but the only ones I haven't seen fully are the ones where they either announce they chose not to watch the extended editions for whatever reason or that refuse to watch the extended editions of The Two Towers and Return of the King when asked after their theatrical Fellowship reaction. I don't get upset about it but I don't enjoy the theatrical versions so I don't watch those reactions. Or the comment wars every time when people say "at this timestamp you asked XYZ and you would have seen XYZ in the extended edition" and the ensuing "that scene should have been cut, it was better pacing/flow/whatever without it" incessantly dishonest arguments. Those arguments still go on in the extended edition reactions since the theatrical version people won't let it go and have to respond to every comment of "thanks for watching the extended editions" with something like "you people just don't understand how movies are made and the theatrical versions are the definitive versions, so there". 🙄
Let me tell you, y'all know how to leave some persuasive comments, so I'm just sooo happy that I chose to listen to the Extended Edition side of the argument as opposed to those who were in favor of the theatrical version. Whew! I really hit the jackpot with this choice, because as I mentioned, a lot of the deleted scenes seem pivotal to the plot to me. If I watched the theatrical version now, it would feel like it was missing certain heartbeats. But who knows? Maybe one day in the future, I'll give the theatrical version a try. Just to see it from the other perspective. Wish me luck lol
@@cpmf2112I just tell theatrical pushers this : Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad (done on purpose to dumb down a population). Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
You mentioned that you might do a re-watch of LotR-X in the not-too-distant future. I have a couple of suggestions... 1) Do you have a younger friend who has never seen LotR and would be willing to do a joint-reaction with you? That has worked quite well for several other reactors, e.g., Popcorn-in-Bed and Diegesis (to name just two). You become not just a 2nd-time reactor, but also get to observe the reaction of an LotR virgin. 🙂 2) Try to work on your copyright-tolerance editing skills a bit more. In your first reactions, you seemed to have great difficulty and showed not enough of the film, whereas many other reactors seem able to show a lot more. Have you watched any LotR reactions by other youtubers yet? You could learn techniques from them, I'm sure. Other good, recent, LotR reaction examples are by SoFieReacts, camilla's corner, and Popcorn Roulette. This latter suggestion also relates to your comment/question about how to join more with the greater Tolkien-loving community -- one thing we/I (who feel similarly isolated) do is to watch the (frequent, new) reaction videos by LotR virgins, and enjoy their enjoyment vicariously. :-)
Fantastic suggestions! Thank you kindly :) I wish that I had a friend who hasn't seen the LotR and would be willing to react to it for the first time on camera. But unfortunately, that is not currently the case. Hopefully I will stumble across a new tv friend soon. If not, I'll have to do it solo yet again. I whole-heartedly agree with your suggestion that I work on my copyright editing skills. I have no idea how other TH-camrs are able to get away with showing as much of the movie scenes as they are. It boggles my mind. I'll watch some videos and do a little more research on the copyright stipulations before editing my re-watch though. I'm even tempted to re-edit my original 💢First Watch 💢 video for new viewers because I realize that my initial uploads are sub par. I find it quite interesting that you take great joy in watching LotR reactions. I haven't had time to indulge in a lot of other reactors yet, because editing these videos for you guys takes a lot of time. But, I definitely will. I love living vicariously through other peoples eyes too lol :) Take care and thanks for watching!
@@flowstatereactions > I have no idea how other TH-camrs are able to get away with showing > as much of the movie scenes as they are. One technique is to reverse the screen leftright. But there are still limits on how much is possible. In more recent reactions I've noticed that they mute, or severely distort, the background music -- which is a great shame since the music is a large part of the feel of the films. I've only seen one reactor watch through the end credits of RotK, when "Into the West" is playing. That song got one of the 11 Oscars RotK netted in 2004. Similarly, I've never seen any reactors listening through the TT end credits when Gollum's Song is playing. Since you clearly don't want to "leave" Middle-Earth just yet, listening to the music might be a good way to keep the feeling -- yet sadly there are rather few reaction videos to these songs, probably because copyright comes down on them quick and hard. But,... there are several excellent covers of these songs which could be the subject of an enjoyable good music reaction video. E.g., Gollum's Song is done very well by Alina Gingertail (a *highly* talented multi-instrumentalist), and also Karliene (who also does a cover of Into the West), as do Malinda & Rachel Hardy and also Carmen Grandi. Then there's various good covers of "The Passing of the Elves" (when Frodo and Sam saw the elves passing through the Shire in the night, heading to the Haves, but the movie only plays a small part of that song). There are also covers of Evenstar -- Arwen's theme -- (which often triggers a Pavlov's dog response in me whenever I hear it), by individuals and even full orchestras. For The Hobbit music, I like the 8-minute cover version of Misty Mountains by "Clamavi De Profundis" (though not so much the 20 min extended version which becomes a bit repetitive). Most reactors to this song go with other artists, but I prefer CDP. They also do a surprisingly good interpretation of Namarie (Galadriel's Lament), although that's not in the movies. The reason I mention all this is to suggest that you could maybe do short music reaction videos on these cover versions as an easy way of prolonging/preserving the Middle-Earth feeling. The songs are quite short compared to the full films, so it wouldn't take much effort on your part to find out whether you and your subscribers like that sort of thing. > I find it quite interesting that you take great joy in > watching LotR reactions. Alas, I begin to wonder whether it's some kind of mental illness -- excessive empathy, or something like that. I tend to start tearing up as soon as the reactors do -- it must be a sympathetic reaction, because I don't tear up if the reactor does not. Quite bizarre. It was a challenge to watch Diegesis's first-time reaction to RotK, since she quickly submerged into a pool of tears for much of the latter part of the movie, crying uncontrollably. More than one female reactor has consumed literally an entire box of tissues while watching RotK. Otoh, it's clearly not just my illness alone. Several youtubers are increasingly doing "reactions-to-reactions" videos, e.g., this recent mashup: "Top Boromir's Death Reactions!" by Banger React. BTW, [off topic], have you seen "The Sixth Sense" movie? If not, I'm sure you'd enjoy doing a first-time reaction to it.
Hello again. I found your response to be helpful and quite relatable. If you look at my About Section for my TH-cam channel you will see the statement "If you feel different, you're in the right place." :) I know all about excessive empathy, which is the reason I decided to give this reaction channel a shot. I often find myself so lost in the life that is unfolding on screen that I forget that I'm actually sitting on a couch and watching television. Many times, as I watched LotR, I had to remind myself that I'm not actually a Hobbit on a mission to save the world. Lol. So yes, we have this affliction in common. I'm going to take your editing suggestions of reversing the screen and muffling the background. I'm also going to take your viewing suggestions for the musical extras that you mentioned. You all are going to help keep me in Middle Earth for at least another year or two, and I am so grateful. Thanks for your help and thanks for continuing to watch. 😊
@@flowstatereactionsas for Galadriel’s Farewell To Lórien it’s best to react to the one done by Karliene “Galadriel’s Song - Karliene” or Galadriel’s Song Of Eldamar by Helle Stenberg! Or one of my faves of that same song instead by Caty Petersilge! Or the same noble maiden fair backdrop version by “Mira z Lasu”. Or definitely the one by the famous Tolkien Ensemble that group which was loved by Tolkien himself !
Hey, hey LotR Fam. 👋🏾This particular video took longer to edit since I was reacting to entire scenes from the FotR, so there were some copyright issues. But fortunately, I had the time to get it all completed for you all today. :)
This was such a delight for me to get a chance to see these special scenes again. As you will see, I was quite stunned by the sheer number of deleted scenes there were, and also by the content of the scenes themselves. OMG...what a difficult task it must've been to have to make the final decisions.
I'm just so thrilled that I decided to watch the Extended Edition first. I now realize just how much of a treat this was for me. I hope you all enjoy my reaction, even though I keep saying, "I can't believe they took this out," the whole time. LOL...All righty, I'll see you beautiful folks again next week with some more BTS fun as we move on to the Two Towers. 🥳 Until next time, Let's Flow! 🎬 #lotr #behindthescene #behindthescenesmagic
Seeing just how much the theatres forced them to cut for playtime contracts makes me fume. lol.
Yeah, as I keep saying during the reaction it's "outrageous" lol
All they needed to do was take out “how many did you eat” , replacing it with Frodo and Gandalf outside of Moria… that scene was too precious and was the most well lit scene ontop of everything else, not to mention superb lighting for that foreshadowing scene. Whenever they give Gandalf those angles and tints he feels even more like Gandalf ! Especially similar to the blue tint he had when talking to Frodo to never put the ring on before he rode off… despite the many deviations from the books that you’ll come to enjoy when reacting to a channel called “Fact or Fantasy”. His voice and storytelling also is very immersive and compelling. ❤❤❤
I thought that scene between Merry and Pippin was hilarious, but I can see why you would say they should've replaced that with the Gandalf and Frodo in Moria scene. Choosing which scenes to delete is a tough call. Kudos to whoever had to do this task.
Regarding Gandalf Lament - the song heard is literally elves singing for his sake whilst being a theme for the movie itself. This was expanded & set to music by Philippa Boyens & Howard Shore, respectively, The Fellowship of the Ring. It was sung in the said film by Elizabeth Fraser in the track Lothlórien. Notable about this song is that it assumes that the elves of Lothlórien were aware that Gandalf was an incarnate Maia. This is debatable. As well, the lyrics ask "What drove you to leave/That which you loved?". This suggests that Gandalf was well aware that he would fall in Moria. Other verses include Gandalf (Olórin is his true name as abeing the wisest of the primordial ageless Maiar spirits), and that with him the Flame of Anor would leave the world (assuming that it and he were one, or he was the only wielder of the Flame).
(English comes after the Quenya)
* The first part is in Quenya:
A Olórin i yáresse
Mentaner i Númenherui
Tírien i Rómenóri
Maiaron i Oiosaila
Manan elye etevanne
Nórie i melanelye?
- The Second part is in Sindarin:
Mithrandir, Mithrandir, A Randir Vithren
ú-reniathach i amar galen
I reniad lín ne mór, nuithannen
In gwidh ristennin, i fae narchannen
I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen
Caled veleg, ethuiannen.
**”Olórin, who once was...
Sent by the Lords of the West
To guard the lands of the East
Wisest of all Maiar
What drove you to leave
That which you loved?
Mithrandir, Mithrandir O Pilgrim Grey
No more will you wander the green fields of this earth
Your journey has ended in darkness.
The bonds cut, the spirit broken
The Flame of Anor has left this World
A great light, extinguished.” **
And Since Gandalf is tied to the story and fate of the elves as he is one of the Maiar spirits is that when one perishes it tends to be a big deal when something like one “dies” if you will. Spending thousands of years together even in his current embodiment is still greatly impactful upon his death.
Remember - Extended scenes & their importance: 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin!
(An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.)
2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time.
3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer.
4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall.
(And the second film ex edition shows big backstory for Boromir so don’t miss out on it)
5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books).
6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel).
That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn!
7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
Having seen them both i prefer the extended versions as i feel some parts help show not just more of middle earth but more of the details that fill in some gaps. Like Sarumans fall and how the palantir was then found by pippin falling out of sarumans gown. Had a friend who was blown away by the ext version as they had never seen it and would themselves point out the bits they had never seen before. Was fun for us both
Wow, yeah I bet it was fun for both of you. Reacting to these videos for you all makes me feel like I have some friends to share my surprise and delight with too :)
Funny thing is, we know they have more left cut out, imagine if we could get it ALL! Ooh yeah man lol. Prob be another 10hours haha
LOL! I know right?! And all of us fans would sit and watch it, which is such a funny thought to me.
English below) - Moria gate Gandalf said : “Annon edhellen, edro hi ammen! Fennas nogothrim, lasto beth lammen!” = “Elvish gate, open now for us! Doorway of the Nargothrond dwarf-folk, listen to the word of my tongue!" ((Nargothrond is very special. Galadriels eldest of 4 brothers named Finrod Felagund literally discovered & befriended mankind first. Along with the dwarves of several clans who carved that megalithic fortress region alongside his band of elves who were in his most loyal company. Together they and the dwarves made many great things. Felagund is his name given by the dwarves. Narvi and Celebrimbor created the door together as well as what made Eregion the most shining elvish cultural heartbeat of middle earth especially after Doriath and Gondolin no longer exist (for now) due to Beleriand sinking to bottom of sea from the War Of Wrath. A lot of the reason why third age exists is thanks to Finrod doing all of his deeds and saving the life of Beren which allowed Lúthien to arrive in time to rescue Beren and banish Gorthaur (not Sauron yet.)
Yes. I’ll answer your question again. There are tons of Two Towers BTS stuff but they might not be in the playlist. There is like 8 and they’re like 40 minutes long each…
Ok, got it. Thank you.
“How dare you sir.” I love when you say these things in the way you say them. ❤❤❤. I’ll always be with you.
Lol...thank you. I felt offended when he dropped the sword.
As someone else suggested: will you bring another to join you who hasn’t seen LOTR to your re watch re-reaction edition ? ❤❤❤
Currently, I don't know anyone who hasn't seen it, and who would be willing to watch it for the first time in front of a camera. But, who knows? I could make a new friend in a few weeks. Lol, probably not, but hope feels good. :)
Arwen’s deep voice is from her grandmother Galadriel! Among all elven women it was said that Galadriel was the one with the lowest voice with similar cadence to male elves which was no less ethereal.
Oh, that's an interesting piece of info there. I was referring to the fact that they suggested the actress Liv Tyler to lower the register of her own voice for the character of Arwen. I had no idea that it had anything to do with Galadriel.
That Gandalf scene was Frodo was too important to have been left out.
I agree 1,000% :)
It’s rather fun to see your reaction regarding not knowing how much was cut or not. It elicited the most genuine responses from you. ❤❤❤
Thank you. I was rather shocked by all of the scenes that were chosen to be deleted. My goodness, what a difficult task that must've been. 😅
@@flowstatereactionsas you and another have said : this is the only set of films that we want more to be ADDED. We won’t mind a 10 hour movie with ten intermissions and we camp all around the place indoors and outdoors like we used to do when they came out in theatres. Tons of people travelled for hundreds of miles to get to see these movies more than once. Travelling across the country long before DVD
Camping out in the theaters to watch 10-hours worth of LotR extra footage is a wild image! I love it though :)
A number of the deleted scenes were shortened but not completely removed.
Okay, I can accept that.
Sadly the Gandalf and Frodo Moria scene was taken completely out. It was one of the few foreshadowing scenes that accomplished so much with both world building and character building simultaneously! They removed a lot from Galadriel too which is what irks me the most…
Yeah, that was particularly startling to see that they cut the speech with Gandalf and Frodo in Moria. I'm still in disbelief actually. I'm so glad I watched the Extended Edition first.
The Council of Elrond scene is indeed in the theatrical version. It's just a little shorter. I think specially some parts of Boromir's speeches.
Ok, that's good to know. Thanks for that. I was not ready to accept that the entire scene had been deleted.
and Gandalf with the black speech and all
Oh good...that was impressive. I'm glad they kept that in there.
Before your re-reaction to Fellowship Of The Ring please react to the few minute song by Clamavi De Profundis - Bilbo’s last song. It’s a direct song from the books I believe. Either way it’s still a Tolkienian level set of lyrics paired with a stellar set of instrumentals that will truly make the tingles return all over again and bring back a deeper sense of nostalgia for you.
Ok...got it. I just took a screen shot of this comment so it wouldn't get lost in the inbox. Thanks for the suggestion. :)
@@flowstatereactionsyour reaction to this sort of stuff will rocket launch you into the area where Moviejoob and OmarioRPG channels have reached !
I never will understand the people who argue for theatrical versus extended. Maybe they think the reactor will then do the extended editions, but most people will watch whichever version they watch exactly once and never watch either version again so I prefer they watch the extended editions to get the most they can. I have heard a lot of reactors comment about the movies being so long, not one so far has gotten to end of the extended editions without saying "Wait, that's it?!?" and without a single complaint about the runtime.
I think I may have checked all of the LOTR reactions on TH-cam but the only ones I haven't seen fully are the ones where they either announce they chose not to watch the extended editions for whatever reason or that refuse to watch the extended editions of The Two Towers and Return of the King when asked after their theatrical Fellowship reaction. I don't get upset about it but I don't enjoy the theatrical versions so I don't watch those reactions. Or the comment wars every time when people say "at this timestamp you asked XYZ and you would have seen XYZ in the extended edition" and the ensuing "that scene should have been cut, it was better pacing/flow/whatever without it" incessantly dishonest arguments.
Those arguments still go on in the extended edition reactions since the theatrical version people won't let it go and have to respond to every comment of "thanks for watching the extended editions" with something like "you people just don't understand how movies are made and the theatrical versions are the definitive versions, so there". 🙄
Let me tell you, y'all know how to leave some persuasive comments, so I'm just sooo happy that I chose to listen to the Extended Edition side of the argument as opposed to those who were in favor of the theatrical version. Whew! I really hit the jackpot with this choice, because as I mentioned, a lot of the deleted scenes seem pivotal to the plot to me. If I watched the theatrical version now, it would feel like it was missing certain heartbeats.
But who knows? Maybe one day in the future, I'll give the theatrical version a try. Just to see it from the other perspective. Wish me luck lol
@flowstatereactions good luck! I am eagerly waiting for the next round of BTS videos from The Two Towers 😁
@@cpmf2112I just tell theatrical pushers this : Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result.
Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons.
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Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart.
But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again.
The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️).
Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film.
It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!”
It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad (done on purpose to dumb down a population). Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
Hey, you are going to watch the bts of the remaining two movies, right?
Yes, this BTS experience was way too much fun for me to stop now ;)
@@flowstatereactionshis comment is many hours earlier than mine. Are you not getting my comments anymore ? Check your settings.
You mentioned that you might do a re-watch of LotR-X in the not-too-distant future. I have a couple of suggestions...
1) Do you have a younger friend who has never seen LotR and would be willing to do a joint-reaction with you? That has worked quite well for several other reactors, e.g., Popcorn-in-Bed and Diegesis (to name just two). You become not just a 2nd-time reactor, but also get to observe the reaction of an LotR virgin. 🙂
2) Try to work on your copyright-tolerance editing skills a bit more. In your first reactions, you seemed to have great difficulty and showed not enough of the film, whereas many other reactors seem able to show a lot more. Have you watched any LotR reactions by other youtubers yet? You could learn techniques from them, I'm sure. Other good, recent, LotR reaction examples are by SoFieReacts, camilla's corner, and Popcorn Roulette.
This latter suggestion also relates to your comment/question about how to join more with the greater Tolkien-loving community -- one thing we/I (who feel similarly isolated) do is to watch the (frequent, new) reaction videos by LotR virgins, and enjoy their enjoyment vicariously. :-)
Fantastic suggestions! Thank you kindly :)
I wish that I had a friend who hasn't seen the LotR and would be willing to react to it for the first time on camera. But unfortunately, that is not currently the case. Hopefully I will stumble across a new tv friend soon. If not, I'll have to do it solo yet again.
I whole-heartedly agree with your suggestion that I work on my copyright editing skills. I have no idea how other TH-camrs are able to get away with showing as much of the movie scenes as they are. It boggles my mind. I'll watch some videos and do a little more research on the copyright stipulations before editing my re-watch though. I'm even tempted to re-edit my original 💢First
Watch 💢 video for new viewers because I realize that my initial uploads are sub par.
I find it quite interesting that you take great joy in watching LotR reactions. I haven't had time to indulge in a lot of other reactors yet, because editing these videos for you guys takes a lot of time. But, I definitely will. I love living vicariously through other peoples eyes too lol :) Take care and thanks for watching!
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> I have no idea how other TH-camrs are able to get away with showing
> as much of the movie scenes as they are.
One technique is to reverse the screen leftright. But there are still limits
on how much is possible. In more recent reactions I've noticed that they
mute, or severely distort, the background music -- which is a great shame
since the music is a large part of the feel of the films. I've only seen one
reactor watch through the end credits of RotK, when "Into the West" is
playing. That song got one of the 11 Oscars RotK netted in 2004. Similarly, I've never seen any reactors listening through the TT end credits when Gollum's Song is playing.
Since you clearly don't want to "leave" Middle-Earth just yet, listening to
the music might be a good way to keep the feeling -- yet sadly there are rather few reaction videos to these songs, probably because copyright comes down on them quick and hard. But,... there are several excellent covers of these songs which could be the subject of an enjoyable good music reaction video. E.g., Gollum's Song is done very well by Alina Gingertail (a *highly* talented multi-instrumentalist), and also Karliene (who also does a cover of Into the West), as do Malinda & Rachel Hardy and also Carmen Grandi. Then there's various good covers of "The Passing of the Elves" (when Frodo and Sam saw the elves passing through the Shire in the night, heading to the Haves, but the movie only plays a small part of that song). There are also covers of Evenstar -- Arwen's theme -- (which often triggers a Pavlov's dog response in me whenever I hear it), by individuals and even full orchestras.
For The Hobbit music, I like the 8-minute cover version of Misty Mountains by "Clamavi De Profundis" (though not so much the 20 min extended version which becomes a bit repetitive). Most reactors to this song go with other artists, but I prefer CDP. They also do a surprisingly good interpretation of Namarie (Galadriel's Lament), although that's not in the movies.
The reason I mention all this is to suggest that you could maybe do short
music reaction videos on these cover versions as an easy way of
prolonging/preserving the Middle-Earth feeling. The songs are quite short
compared to the full films, so it wouldn't take much effort on your part
to find out whether you and your subscribers like that sort of thing.
> I find it quite interesting that you take great joy in
> watching LotR reactions.
Alas, I begin to wonder whether it's some kind of mental illness -- excessive
empathy, or something like that. I tend to start tearing up as soon as the
reactors do -- it must be a sympathetic reaction, because I don't tear up if the reactor does not. Quite bizarre. It was a challenge to watch Diegesis's first-time reaction to RotK, since she quickly submerged into a pool of tears for much of the latter part of the movie, crying uncontrollably. More than one female reactor has consumed literally an entire box of tissues while watching RotK.
Otoh, it's clearly not just my illness alone. Several youtubers are increasingly doing "reactions-to-reactions" videos, e.g., this recent mashup: "Top Boromir's Death Reactions!" by Banger React.
BTW, [off topic], have you seen "The Sixth Sense" movie? If not, I'm sure
you'd enjoy doing a first-time reaction to it.
Hello again. I found your response to be helpful and quite relatable. If you look at my About Section for my TH-cam channel you will see the statement "If you feel different, you're in the right place." :)
I know all about excessive empathy, which is the reason I decided to give this reaction channel a shot. I often find myself so lost in the life that is unfolding on screen that I forget that I'm actually sitting on a couch and watching television. Many times, as I watched LotR, I had to remind myself that I'm not actually a Hobbit on a mission to save the world. Lol. So yes, we have this affliction in common.
I'm going to take your editing suggestions of reversing the screen and muffling the background. I'm also going to take your viewing suggestions for the musical extras that you mentioned. You all are going to help keep me in Middle Earth for at least another year or two, and I am so grateful. Thanks for your help and thanks for continuing to watch. 😊
BTW, I have seen "The Sixth Sense" and I loved everything about that movie. I seem to have a little bit of that affliction as well lol ;)
@@flowstatereactionsas for Galadriel’s Farewell To Lórien it’s best to react to the one done by Karliene “Galadriel’s Song - Karliene” or Galadriel’s Song Of Eldamar by Helle Stenberg! Or one of my faves of that same song instead by Caty Petersilge! Or the same noble maiden fair backdrop version by “Mira z Lasu”. Or definitely the one by the famous Tolkien Ensemble that group which was loved by Tolkien himself !