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Thing is shadow weaver did aid the good guys. Despicable as she is, shes making a positive change while Catra has had multiple chances to walk away and she continues to choose bad.
@@VeerleTakino while contributing to the rebel cause, which is more than Catra. Yes shadow weaver is awful and catra is victimised but it did not have to be this way and Catra chose this, regardless of her state of mind. Failing to condemn this behaviour (understanding is fine) justifies toxic behaviour.
@@VeerleTakino People really will defend an unrepentant abuser if it gives them a chance to make pseudo-intellectual takes attacking Catra. You would seriously think she was a real person that they wanted to bully off Twitter or something from the way this goes on.
AJ Michalka does an incredible job voicing Catra throughout the entire show, but she is genuinely *masterful* this episode. She manages to portray Catra's smugness when she returns to the Fright Zone, her sadness when confronting Shadow Weaver, and then her fury and madness in the rest of the episode, and she does it all perfectly.
I hate Catra but damn it, AJ Michalka is an amazing voice actress. Aside from Keston John (Hordak, Horde Prime, Wrong Hordak) and maybe Lorraine Toussant (Shadow Weaver) she's the best performer in this series, although I actually like Christine Woods (Entrapta) more because she grew into a fantastic voice actress instead of being one right from the start. Back on point, I almost wish AJ wasn't such a good actress because she actually made a toxic, violent, sadistic, manipulative sociopath sound sympathetic, to a point where I only realised how terrible Catra really is and how shitty her "redemption" was when I thought about the entire show with the context of hindsight.
@@tomnorton4277 I love how you almost come to the realization of what Catra's character actually is instead of the weird, creepy anti- headcanon you're projecting on her before veering away into more borderline obsessive weirdness. Why are you coming to these videos anyway if you hate and deliberately misunderstand the emotional core of the story so much? It's seriously unpleasant for you to spew all that trash at fans of the show, especially the trauma and abuse survivors who value the show so much. The fandom gets enough outside harassment as it is.
When Montana said "crazy gets me but only with women, I have great taste in men "(same) and Kenny pointed to himself . Omfg I love them so much they are so perfect
If Catra being abused for her entire life and learning that she almost died because Shadow Weaver manipulated her to go back to Adora wasn't enough for her to pull the switch, her seeing the people who are supposed to be "the good guys" holding hands and attacking her with the person that abused her her entire life was the tipping point. It's obviously not even close to the right decision, but seeing everything Catra went through, we can see why she does ultimately pull the switch.
Hooo yeah. I honestly think most of anyone else in the same emotional space and situation would make a similar decision. That's what's great about this show - how actions of characters are influenced not just by personality, but by their situation, and environment, and upbringing, all at the same time.
What makes it all a bit worse is that SW being with the 'good guys' also ruins any kind of sense Catra might have made of Adora's morality in a way that makes some truly awful implications seem kinda valid. The theory is that Adora left the Horde ( and Catra ) because she couldn't abide by the moral violations of the Horde. While this is our understanding it's not an unassailable theory from Catra's perspective because Adora didn't plan an escape after years of watching Catra's treatment, presumably a moral violation and in Promise they do manage to be on the same page when it comes to 'SW is terrible and Catra shouldn't have to deal with that' . So you get a somewhat altered theory that Adora left the Horde because she couldn't abide by the moral violations of the Horde and she saw a safe way out ( the sword ). Then SW joins the Brightmoon crowd with apparently no repercussions, certainly SW appears to be less a prisoner then Catra was during 'Ties that Bind' . To Catra SW is an ultimate source of moral violations, there may be others but she's 2nd to nobody in that, understandably. This pretty well bulldozes any understanding of Adora's reasons for leaving ( as this pattern of letting SW off lightly is extended even after the sword ) and instead leaves Catra with two devastating possibilities. A) Left Horde&Catra because she felt like it and none of it really meant much to her + lying. B) Moral violations are only such when they happen to OTHER people, when Catra's being mistreated it doesn't count, according to the side Adora joined and by extension according to Adora. I think this plays a pretty major role in how little hesitation Catra has towards doing the exact opposite of whatever Adora says. Not a good time for Catra.
I recall seeing a comment about the scene of Entrapta and Hordak when she was talking about waiting for a while before going through with opening the portal. She said they should wait until it’s perfect, but in the past she’s said perfection in impossible, essentially saying ‘stay with me forever’
Pay attention to the Glimmer/Angella and Glimmer/Shadow Weaver scenes: in the first interaction Angella warns Glimmer that if they rush ahead without a plan they will "lose someone" (foreshadowing). When Glimmer defies her mom and makes a deal with Shadow Weaver everything says that it's a BAD choice: the lighting symbolism shows Glimmer step into the dark, Bow shakes his head, the music gets somber... Because, ultimately, bringing Shadow Weaver into the Fright Zone triggers Catra into pulling the lever and tasing Entrapta while cornered and in full blown panic.
@@idk-ye7ur Ehh... if they didn't do anything Entrapta would have still discovered opening the portal would destroy the world, and a less crazy Catra probably wouldn't have hushed that up. So ironically if they hadn't gone it probably would have worked out better, but there's no way Glimmer could have known that. She made the best decision with the information she had.
Incoming overused praise of AJ and how she voices Catra so frickin well. But it’s so true! That “Adora is right…” and then the slide into that laugh… frick me. I love it. Just in case, Catra caught one of Bow’s arrows in her whip (not on purpose but still), and then slung it back at him and that’s how he got caught in goo. She used his own arrow against him. SW’s VA does have some of my favorite comedic deliveries in this show. Going from manipulating to “fine I guess you can come” in a split second was fantastic. “You made me this way, and you get to be the good guy?” That line always guts me. And the kicker is, SW hasn’t changed, she’s still not a good person even if she’s technically doing the “right” thing at the moment. As you said. Man I’m so excited to see ya’ll’s reactions to the finale. These next two episodes are in my top ten. Easy.
Catra can go to hell but AJ is a fucking amazing voice actress. I almost wish she wasn't because then I would have an excuse to despise everything about Catra.
This is such a weird little detail to focus on, but the animation and sound design for the last few seconds of the episode are just top notch. That ominous, discordant drone builds in volume and pitch, and just before it reaches a crescendo - hard cut to silence and black. Genuinely unsettling, I love it.
H20 was everything in my childhood. Litterally never missed a new episode. I kept trying to take a bath in the full moon hoping t get my mermaid powers
Lmao I would do that thing in the shower where the water runs off the end of your fingers in a stream and pretend I was manipulating it's movement like Cleo did 😂😂😂
it's also imo the peak villain catra - after season 3 she tries to play the role but loses most of that fiery rage of injustice that was fuelling her, grappling instead with guilt and denial.
9:50 This is so true, Lorraine Toussaint does such a wonderful job. It is even more impressive given that we don't get much facial expression because of the mask (apart from widening or narrowing of the eyes) and overall her character can be pretty subdued in movement, so the voice is doing so much heavy lifting and it's awesome
Catra pulling the lever is probably the most-analyzed points in the series and one of its key pivot points, but I have a feeling the exact sequence of events is also often misremembered. The buildup is pretty complex, and it's not necessarily easy to keep track of which character has which information. This has led to a lot of people remembering it as "Catra was willing to destroy the world just so Adora isn't right", which isn't accurate. The thing is, the audience has all the information about the portal from Light Hope (which itself is misleading), from Mara, and from Entrapta's initial analysis in this episode. But Catra wasn't there for any of that. The only thing she knows about opening the portal is 1) Adora telling her that it would bring the rest of the Horde, which would be good for her, or so she assumes. 2) Entrapta telling her, in very brief and fairly ambiguous words, in the eleventh hour, and after Catra was already severely affected by the encounter with Shadow Weaver, that opening it would be bad somehow. Catra wasn't present for any of the world-ending warnings, and nobody told her about them. The only person who was present for Entrapta's analysis and in a position to stop Catra was...Scorpia, who doesn't say anything. So no, she actually wasn't intending to sacrifice everything, which is pretty clear when you look at her expression - not that of someone ready to end it all, but of someone who thought they had finally won. It's a really interesting situation and one that's often misunderstood, because the audience has so much more information than the characters.
@@nenakarra2579 Not to mention that genocide involves actively targeting a particular demographic. It's not even the right word for the situation, and is kinda endemic of how people will couch edgy and ill-conceived analyses in overly-serious language for the sake of discourse.
This episode is actually lousy with 'Catra bad because she should have known about something she didn't see' . The exchange between Adora and Entrapta suggests that Catra deliberately lied where her 'they abandoned you' theory is entirely reasonable with the information available to her. Beyond some of the technical who-heard-what stuff there's also the broader issue of Catra increasingly not being in her best mind since Adora revealed where SW was. I think her real crossing the Rubicon moment was actually zapping Entrapta and I think her own reaction to it speaks to that and even here it's fresh off an encounter with people invading the fright zone and giving her some volts. Once she did that 'for the mission' I don't think she has much leeway to back down later.
I would argue that Keston John is the best performer because of his ability to clearly distinguish Hordak from Horde Prime and Wrong Hordak. For example, listen to Hordak's reunion with Horde Prime. That is literally just Keston John talking to himself but you could swear that he's in the middle of a two sided conversation. But yes, Loraine Toussant is bloody amazing too. She always keeps you guessing about what Shadow Weaver is truly planning because even when she's saying something that could be beneficial to the good guys, you always get the sense that there's an ulterior motive behind it. The voice acting is one of the best things about this show. I think Christine Woods was the weakest member of the cast in Season 1 but by the time we reached Season 5, she had grown so much as a voice actress that she was able to carry the whole season on her shoulders whilst also firmly cementing Entrapta as the best character in the entire show. Even with Catra's dogshit "redemption" arc and Adora and Glimmer's character assassinations, AJ Michalka, Aimee Carrero and Karen Fukuhara still did their best to work with the shitty scripts, so I can't blame them for how badly their characters were written in Season 5.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Catra shocking Entrapta after she wants to tell Hordak about the implications of the portal is no accident: she does look shocked immediately after she tased her (as if she's surprised that she was capable of doing that to Entrapta) but she also does not want to lose again to Adora (which is a sentiment that guides all of her decisions in this episode), which indicates that this is partly just her acting on some built-up resentment against Entrapta and it is a way to get back at the latter for stealing the spotlight from her that she feels she has worked for all this time because she has wanted to be in Hordak's good graces for a long time and it's only once she realised that was no longer possible that she started dunking on him too. Entrapta had a meaningful relationship with Hordak without even trying and Catra kinda seems to resent her for that. When she hence tells Hordak that Entrapta betrayed them it's not just so he won't get mad at her for sending her to Beast island and to ensure that the portal is opened, it's also a way for her to hurt him the only way she can, namely emotionally, by destroying the one positive relationship he has. I will say that the show does an excellent job in terms of making the characters relatable enough that the audience knows why Catra's reaction here is what it is whilst making sure the audience knows that Catra's sad life is partly of her own making because she's essentially turning on everyone around her (the clear example would be Scorpia) and making choices that might feel good to her in this moment where she just wants to wreck everything but they ultimately just make things worse for everyone in the long-run, including herself because the implication is that the planet could cease to exist. Shadow Weaver being an abusive parent and tricking and abandoning her yet again is terrible but it is also not something that can excuse Catra's decisions here because she's essentially getting so angry at everything that she no longer cares if the world goes to hell and she makes that big decision at the end because she knows it is exactly what Adora does not want to see happen and hence she decides to act out of spite. This is all very intriguing to me and just goes to show what exceptional characters the showrunners were able to turn some of these characters into.
20:19 When Scorpia gasps and smiles from relief and happiness to see Catra there and not messing with the portal breaks my heart every time! Like she's just SO relieved and hopeful that Catra is finally making a turn for the best...just for Catra to literally shove her face away and demand that the portal be opened even though it'll destroy the planet, attack Entrapta and send her to a death sentence, and then betray their friendship by threatening to do the same to Scorpia over nothing...its just heartbreaking!! Poor Scorpia TT^TT
I believe that they should have listened to Angella. If Shadow Weaver hadn't gotten in the Fright Zone, then things wouldn't have escalated to the point of Catra to going ballistic.
@Isis Jenkins Nope. With no Shadow Weaver almost killing Catra, Catra would have been in her quarters like in the beginning of the episode. It'd all be in Hordak and Entrapta's hands, as it was originally planned. They'd have to decide what to do. Maybe Entrapta would have convinced Hordak and Catra to wait until they can find a different way. Then later Angella would have likely launched her carefully thought out plan and save Adora with no teenagers going gang-ho in the military base, causing chaos.
@@nenakarra2579 That's true. Without Glimmer and gang rushing in, Adora still would have convinced Entrapta to look into the risks of opening the portal. Catra would still not be in a great place, but she wouldn't be on the warpath like she was after being triggered by Shadow Weaver. Without Catra stopping Entrapta from speaking to Hordak about the risks of opening a portal, I think Entrapta would have convinced Hordak to hold off until they are sure that the portal won't destroy the world (as we see earlier in the episode, Hordak isn't exactly opposed to him and Entrapta taking their time to get it "perfect").
oh this episode is so so good and one of my favorites in season 3! Catra confronting Shadow Weaver is so sad and her not caring about anything and being willing to betray entrapta and scorpia is terrifying.
"I like crazy only in women. I have excellent taste in men" GIRL SAME. Montana, relatable queen Ughhh the foreshadowing in this episode. Here comes the chaos.
"The anomalies will be catastrophic. It will unhinge time and space, creating a warped reality that will collapse in on itself, erasing us from existence!" Entrapta clearly is a big fan of Donnie Darko.
@@juanitaparpandacute3511 I definitely don't want to spoil, but I can't help seeing Season 5 Catra in a whole new light after recent (at least to me) revelations about the show's creator.
@@juanitaparpandacute3511 Kinda spoilers for the show. Nothing big, but I'm doing the irritating line of periods thing just to be safe for anyone who doesn't want to read it. . . . . . . . . . I read Catra's character arc as one in which she can't understand who or what she is because she's been so brainwashed by Shadow-Weaver that she's incapable of seeing her own truth, let alone living it. I originally took that as nothing but a plain childhood trauma metaphor. Now that I know Stevenson is trans, I can't help going back through the series the same way I went back through the Matrix trilogy, wondering if I missed signs of a trans allegory in Catra or even in Adora, whose transformations to become the hero she imagines everyone values her for being sure could have trans elements to them.
You're the only TH-camrs to realise this early that Hordak is also a victim of abuse in this show and to me that's very important. Like a LOT of people dismiss that, because hi is the "villain"
Hordak's nowhere near as villainous as Catra is because unlike Catra, he didn't know that he was the bad guy. Catra's been fully aware of it since the beginning of the show and simply doesn't care.
@@tomnorton4277 Well, Hordak has literally, conquered and enslaved entire *_galaxies_* as the second-in-command of the most evil and powerful empire in the history of the universe, and crushed the first Princess Alliance. So yeah, there's that.
29:43 , I didn’t expect to hear that username here but nice to see they are still asking amazing questions of media even if it can’t be on Talks Machina at the moment.
19:18 there was no roll in the eyeroll, you just looked up. I would recommend trying to make it a bit more fluent by going from up to the side in several stepts. In addition you could also try making it more dramatic by adding a sight or something. Hope that helps!
@@Marta-uv4id She does, often even. ( Covers for Adora when she ditched, returns the sword, gives SW the magic thingy, tries to disentangle Scorpia from the doom she thinks is coming with Hordak punishing her, has a reasonably nice amount of interest/patience for Entrapta's 'theories' ) She often gets punished for it if she can't use it to her advantage and generally doing nice things is something you try to get away with not something you can freely express in the Horde. Where things fall apart for her is that she doesn't believe there's a place where you can just do good things and have a happy/free life. She expects the rest of the world to treat her as poorly as the Horde has.
Now we pass the point of no return in more then one meaning those who know will understand, and as Dr. Strange would say it:"We're in the endgame now."
Never trust Shadow Weaver. It's a good guiding principle. Sometimes Shadow Weaver's knowledge or skills are needed, but assuming she has an ulterior motive or something is always a good idea. It also has some of those "Azula always lies" vibes too, doesn't it?
From this episode on it getting really good. 2 more episodes till the end of s3 S4 incoming with one of the best characters let's call them DT to avoid spoilers (if you know, you know😏) Love the reactions ❤
when i said that catra could destroy the world and i would still not be able to hate her, i mean it, but what made me mad this episode was what she did to entrepta, and how she treated scorpia, and i know she was blinded by the anger of the moment, but anyway it makes me feel bad for scorpia and entrepta because I love them, but even so I can't hate catra for everything, she represents so many important things to me and how identified I feel with her, and I love her. BUT that does not mean that what she is doing is okey. I'm in a complicated position right now.
@@athena3268 There's a scene, I think it may have been skipped over in these reactions, where Hordak tells Entrapa about the rest of the universe. He calls their planet a backwater and implies he thinks they'd be better off with contact with the rest of the universe, and I think that had a big influence on Entrapta. She wants to open the portal but she doesn't really see it as an invasion, she sees it more like Earth being welcomed into a galactic federation or something. After all, she's a princess and part of the horde and they treat her fine, so would it really be so bad? She's wrong, but I think there's more going on than just refusing to consider what she's doing.
16:18 I'd love to see you two react to H2O, though if you want a truly amazing mermaid show with actual CGI-ed mermaids then you should watch 2018 "Siren". No silicone tails or knees in sight. The plot, characters, special effects and music are all gold AND that way you'd both go in blind, not just Kenny
3x4 ah oof is this is one I'm thinkin' of 2:09 mm having it on displacement 4:32 though she did take some hesitance in her tone 7:30 yep yep 9:50 it's just amazing--both Weaver and Spinner 16:15 JUST ADD WATER WAIT WAIT WAIT----YOU NEED TO REACT PLEASE MY HECK The fin---who wasn't, though? 17:40 20:55 sa d sad 19:53 oh yeah youre good 21:20 her voice on the "you can't" aa 24:50 oh yeah...that's exactly
Great video! Just sth that struck my mind and I wanted to share: since you guys seem to always be curious about a new series to watch in the future, how about another cartoon classic: "Gravity Falls" . Id love to see your reactions and theories to the shows mysteries and story!
Even tho what catra did in this episode was really bad, maybe the worst thing she did in the entire show (Although she created her dream reality instead of destroying the world) I don't blame her, after all she's been through, im surprised she didn't kword herself before, she's really strong for keep going even if everything is a piece of sh!t
And she isn't in her right mind now so i don't think she's Fully aware of what you are doing, She is really gonna regret it in the future, everything, I mean Living with that weight in your conscience, whether you are bad or not, whether it is on purpose or not. No one would feel okey with it. So great! Worsening her mental health even more. WHO WROTE THIS. Just let her be happy 😩😩
@@avocadostyles9020 SEASON 4 SPOILER - i think it's really interesting that when catra recovers from this scene, and is calmer, she doesnt try to fix her mistakes - in fact, she doubles down. Catra decides, "I did these terrible things, so that must mean I'm evil, and I need to keep being evil or my self image will fall apart. So I won't apologise to Adora, or to Glimmer, or to Scorpia, and I'm certainly not going to save Entrapta". With the latter point in particular, she keeps telling Scorpia that Entrapta betrayed them and hopes that if she says it enough times, then it will be true, like Catra is so horrified by her attempted friend murder that she doesn't want to acknowledge it happened. I love when this gets revisited in season 5.
@@Who_Caresx I don't think she believed Entrapta's words, period. This is proven next episode where we see her true wish. She doesn't want to die, she wants happiness with Adora.
Ah yes, the ep where I really *really* started hating… Glimmer. Yes, Glimmer not Catra. Catra at this point is waaaay off the deep end after a lifetime of abuse. Doesn’t excuse it but does explain it. Glimmer has no such excuse, refuses to listen to anyone else, never explains or even engages in conversation and gets tempted by power.
Glimmer lost a parent to the Horde at a very young age, and her relationship to authority is a complicated one. Characters exist to fulfil a narrative purpose, and it's very silly to go on hating a character for having flaws and making a bad decision at the behest of a serial manipulator. I for one will never understand the need to point fingers at fictional flawed teenagers and yell "Bad person! Bad person! Bad person!"
@@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou Uh... that last part may be a *tiny* bit of an over-reaction? Let me be absolutely clear about this: every single character in this entire show is very, very well realised. There are always motivations behind what they do and their actions are usually consistent. It's why I am a huge champion for it despite being a long way outside of its target demographic. However Glimmer is, *in my opinion*... not living up to her potential. Shall we put it that way? This is going to be way too long, sorry, but I think it's worth delving into. Yes, she looses her father to the Horde. This absolutely sucks and would cause quite a few mental health issues. But she is clearly loved by her mother, has every opportunity to learn how to be a good leader and, indeed, princess (I won't say Queen as she thinks that'll never happen owing to the whole immortal mom thing) and *doesn't take them*. It's that which makes her grate, at least for me, the frustration that she could be so much more but chose this path. In fact by the time we get here she's actively gotten worse as a commander compared to S1 where she at least tried to convince others her plan was worth doing. She has critical information, sure, and she's worried about her friend... but her mom / queen / CO is absolutely right. There's no plan at all and she makes terrible choices throughout this episode which, though unintentional, play a significant factor in Catra pulling that switch. She doesn't even *try* to engage with anyone else and just charges ahead despite two seasons (2 + 3 are clearly one season split so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt here) showing her that this is usually a terrible idea. Worse than that, she begins to show worrying signs of getting seduced by power (much like her father in fact). Watch that Shadow Weaver scene again. Glimmer is rightfully cautious as this is a terrible idea but what convinces her to try it? Not a promise to rescue Adora but the lure of finding out how much more powerful she can be. It's in service of saving her friend, yes... but that's a very dangerous road to travel and she really ought to know better at this point. But here's the thing.... I say all that to illustrate why I really hate that character in this moment but also it's absolutely *right* for the show. In many ways Glimmer is the mirror of Catra. One brought up in a life of abuse and torment with even love being considered a finite resource. One brought up in luxury with all of the advantages she could wish though with a wound between her and her mother that neither deal with particularly well. In the harsh light of day both tend to make bad decisions that could end disastrously. Both are attracted to power though for slightly different reasons. Catra sees power as key to her own safety and survival, Glimmer more to protect the kingdom at least as she sees that role (hi Thor, didn't see you there). And here, really for the first time, we see those roads come together at a critical moment and the results are.... to be revealed in the next episode! (Spoilers and all that ;-) ) Glimmer's journey is often overlooked because, well, she's one of the heroes, right? We're conditioned to assume that reckless decisions are just bravery when it comes from those wearing white hats. Or, umm, those who sparkle in this case. But in truth you really can delve into Glimmer almost as much as you can Catra or Adora and, as with most well realised characters, their decisions often aren't the right ones. Sometimes in small ways, sometimes in large but - and again this is IMO - dismissing them does a disservice to the tremendous work put in to realise such complex characters in the first place and cheapens their journey considerably.
As a kids show we know the good ones ultimately win, so I did had a pleasure moment of Catra getting a win amongst SW fucking her up for so long. Even SW saying there was no way bc she was too weak, Catra still got this win😭💀 i celebrated knowing ultimately the good ones win
THE WHOLE SHOW SO FAR APPLIES TO TWO SENTENCES : ,,PEOPLE ALWAYS TRY TO DESTROY WHAT THEY CAN`T CONTROL!" - The She-ra`s, Horde prime soldiers, Catra from Shadoweaver... and ,,YOU SHOULDN`T BE ASHAMED THAT YOU AREN`T PERFECT, IMPERFECTIONS MAKE PROGRESS POSSIBLE!" and the fact that there is no such thing as ,,perfections" gives opportunity for eternal progress.
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React on one piece please
React on one piece please
React on one piece please
React on one piece please
React on one piece please
I think Adora's: "Catra, no!" is the perfect summary for this entire episode.
CATRA YES!
*entire series
@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 HAHAHAHA
this whole show is leggit "Catra, no!" in both don't do it and im so worried about you
@@GamerGrovyle HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
"So, what? You're on the side of good now? You made me this way, and you get to be the good guy?"
She really can’t catch a break. Poor girl.
Thing is shadow weaver did aid the good guys. Despicable as she is, shes making a positive change while Catra has had multiple chances to walk away and she continues to choose bad.
@@soulstealer5625 She's not making a positive change, she's finding a new victim to manipulate while pursuing her own goals
@@VeerleTakino while contributing to the rebel cause, which is more than Catra. Yes shadow weaver is awful and catra is victimised but it did not have to be this way and Catra chose this, regardless of her state of mind. Failing to condemn this behaviour (understanding is fine) justifies toxic behaviour.
@@VeerleTakino People really will defend an unrepentant abuser if it gives them a chance to make pseudo-intellectual takes attacking Catra. You would seriously think she was a real person that they wanted to bully off Twitter or something from the way this goes on.
AJ Michalka does an incredible job voicing Catra throughout the entire show, but she is genuinely *masterful* this episode. She manages to portray Catra's smugness when she returns to the Fright Zone, her sadness when confronting Shadow Weaver, and then her fury and madness in the rest of the episode, and she does it all perfectly.
I hate Catra but damn it, AJ Michalka is an amazing voice actress. Aside from Keston John (Hordak, Horde Prime, Wrong Hordak) and maybe Lorraine Toussant (Shadow Weaver) she's the best performer in this series, although I actually like Christine Woods (Entrapta) more because she grew into a fantastic voice actress instead of being one right from the start. Back on point, I almost wish AJ wasn't such a good actress because she actually made a toxic, violent, sadistic, manipulative sociopath sound sympathetic, to a point where I only realised how terrible Catra really is and how shitty her "redemption" was when I thought about the entire show with the context of hindsight.
@@tomnorton4277 The mention of WH is a bit of a spoiler, maybe remove their name for now?
@@tomnorton4277 I love how you almost come to the realization of what Catra's character actually is instead of the weird, creepy anti- headcanon you're projecting on her before veering away into more borderline obsessive weirdness. Why are you coming to these videos anyway if you hate and deliberately misunderstand the emotional core of the story so much? It's seriously unpleasant for you to spew all that trash at fans of the show, especially the trauma and abuse survivors who value the show so much. The fandom gets enough outside harassment as it is.
@@emilyprice178 Heck, they should remove their whole comment, no one deserves to suffer through that.
She is also the voice of stevonnie from steven universe!
When Montana said "crazy gets me but only with women, I have great taste in men "(same) and Kenny pointed to himself . Omfg I love them so much they are so perfect
I wonder what kenny’s taste are
@@Dan-kg9no Bolin
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If Catra being abused for her entire life and learning that she almost died because Shadow Weaver manipulated her to go back to Adora wasn't enough for her to pull the switch, her seeing the people who are supposed to be "the good guys" holding hands and attacking her with the person that abused her her entire life was the tipping point. It's obviously not even close to the right decision, but seeing everything Catra went through, we can see why she does ultimately pull the switch.
Hooo yeah. I honestly think most of anyone else in the same emotional space and situation would make a similar decision. That's what's great about this show - how actions of characters are influenced not just by personality, but by their situation, and environment, and upbringing, all at the same time.
You hit the nail on the head. It’s sad for her, but true.
What makes it all a bit worse is that SW being with the 'good guys' also ruins any kind of sense Catra might have made of Adora's morality in a way that makes some truly awful implications seem kinda valid.
The theory is that Adora left the Horde ( and Catra ) because she couldn't abide by the moral violations of the Horde. While this is our understanding it's not an unassailable theory from Catra's perspective because Adora didn't plan an escape after years of watching Catra's treatment, presumably a moral violation and in Promise they do manage to be on the same page when it comes to 'SW is terrible and Catra shouldn't have to deal with that' . So you get a somewhat altered theory that Adora left the Horde because she couldn't abide by the moral violations of the Horde and she saw a safe way out ( the sword ).
Then SW joins the Brightmoon crowd with apparently no repercussions, certainly SW appears to be less a prisoner then Catra was during 'Ties that Bind' . To Catra SW is an ultimate source of moral violations, there may be others but she's 2nd to nobody in that, understandably. This pretty well bulldozes any understanding of Adora's reasons for leaving ( as this pattern of letting SW off lightly is extended even after the sword ) and instead leaves Catra with two devastating possibilities. A) Left Horde&Catra because she felt like it and none of it really meant much to her + lying. B) Moral violations are only such when they happen to OTHER people, when Catra's being mistreated it doesn't count, according to the side Adora joined and by extension according to Adora.
I think this plays a pretty major role in how little hesitation Catra has towards doing the exact opposite of whatever Adora says.
Not a good time for Catra.
@@AmurTiger incredibly well put
@@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou or more like their situation influence their personality and overall mental and emotional health.
“Stop letting her use your vibes” HAHHAHA
“what’s the point. you’ll always be around telling me what i can’t do”
I'll go cry again
N-n-n-NO! SHHHH!!!
@@pryaneg4217 yeah me too
"Now I choose to be brave!"
@@karlwilker579 "Take care of each other" 😭😭
I recall seeing a comment about the scene of Entrapta and Hordak when she was talking about waiting for a while before going through with opening the portal.
She said they should wait until it’s perfect, but in the past she’s said perfection in impossible, essentially saying ‘stay with me forever’
Really important warning: from now on, after third season... its the end of the rainbow and cute little things.
literally the dark ages
@@tiffanydlo.x yeah, lmao
You said it. Seasons four and five are my favorite part of the show, but it's also when things get SERIOUS.
@@tiffanydlo.x yeah pretty much
And all the cute little things you DO see are a trap 😅
Fun Entrapdak detail!! The first one's crystal in the center of the armour Entrapta made for Hordak says "loved" in first one's writing!
The luvd crystal
The line “ where is entrapta I need her” brakes me 😭
the scenes between Angella and Glimmer though...ouch. "what's the point? you'll always be around, telling me what I can't do." 😢
*"You'll always be around,"*
Well.....
I mean it's a justified thing to say if your mom is an immortal goddess/angel queen but still.
@@rainbowangel5264 that aged well……
I immediately knew we'd lose Angella when she said that 😭
Pay attention to the Glimmer/Angella and Glimmer/Shadow Weaver scenes: in the first interaction Angella warns Glimmer that if they rush ahead without a plan they will "lose someone" (foreshadowing). When Glimmer defies her mom and makes a deal with Shadow Weaver everything says that it's a BAD choice: the lighting symbolism shows Glimmer step into the dark, Bow shakes his head, the music gets somber... Because, ultimately, bringing Shadow Weaver into the Fright Zone triggers Catra into pulling the lever and tasing Entrapta while cornered and in full blown panic.
But to be fair, Glimmer was right, they had to do something, it didn't work,but they at least tried. Also un S1 because of Glimmer they found Adora.
@@idk-ye7ur Glimmer had good intentions but if she had chosen to listen to Angella, it's possible that Angella might have still been around.
@@idk-ye7ur Ehh... if they didn't do anything Entrapta would have still discovered opening the portal would destroy the world, and a less crazy Catra probably wouldn't have hushed that up. So ironically if they hadn't gone it probably would have worked out better, but there's no way Glimmer could have known that. She made the best decision with the information she had.
Also the argument between Angella and glimmer basically foreshadows Angella will be gone 😭
One of my favorite “hey adora” moments is coming up soon and I can’t even!!!!
⚠️ Spoilers⚠️
~Hey adora~ *in the most robotic threatening corrupted lunatic way that it gives me goosebumps*
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Incoming overused praise of AJ and how she voices Catra so frickin well. But it’s so true! That “Adora is right…” and then the slide into that laugh… frick me. I love it.
Just in case, Catra caught one of Bow’s arrows in her whip (not on purpose but still), and then slung it back at him and that’s how he got caught in goo. She used his own arrow against him.
SW’s VA does have some of my favorite comedic deliveries in this show. Going from manipulating to “fine I guess you can come” in a split second was fantastic.
“You made me this way, and you get to be the good guy?” That line always guts me. And the kicker is, SW hasn’t changed, she’s still not a good person even if she’s technically doing the “right” thing at the moment. As you said.
Man I’m so excited to see ya’ll’s reactions to the finale. These next two episodes are in my top ten. Easy.
Catra can go to hell but AJ is a fucking amazing voice actress. I almost wish she wasn't because then I would have an excuse to despise everything about Catra.
This is such a weird little detail to focus on, but the animation and sound design for the last few seconds of the episode are just top notch. That ominous, discordant drone builds in volume and pitch, and just before it reaches a crescendo - hard cut to silence and black. Genuinely unsettling, I love it.
H20 was everything in my childhood. Litterally never missed a new episode. I kept trying to take a bath in the full moon hoping t get my mermaid powers
Lmao I would do that thing in the shower where the water runs off the end of your fingers in a stream and pretend I was manipulating it's movement like Cleo did 😂😂😂
Emma leaving was heartbreaking for younger me. It's always my favourite character smh
I love it when the stakes start climbing in the _antepenultimate_ episode.
This is a great example of when you tell cats no and they do not listen. XD
This is the episode were Catra in all forms of the knowledge earned her stripes as a villian
it's also imo the peak villain catra - after season 3 she tries to play the role but loses most of that fiery rage of injustice that was fuelling her, grappling instead with guilt and denial.
And for some reason S5 happens. xD
straight up heel
@@idk-ye7ur "for some reason" tells it immediately
9:50 This is so true, Lorraine Toussaint does such a wonderful job. It is even more impressive given that we don't get much facial expression because of the mask (apart from widening or narrowing of the eyes) and overall her character can be pretty subdued in movement, so the voice is doing so much heavy lifting and it's awesome
I don't care how evil shadow weaver is. That teleportation scene in bright moon was freaking awesome and the dramatic music made it even better 🔥🔥
i hate to say it, but u right
Catra pulling the lever is probably the most-analyzed points in the series and one of its key pivot points, but I have a feeling the exact sequence of events is also often misremembered. The buildup is pretty complex, and it's not necessarily easy to keep track of which character has which information.
This has led to a lot of people remembering it as "Catra was willing to destroy the world just so Adora isn't right", which isn't accurate. The thing is, the audience has all the information about the portal from Light Hope (which itself is misleading), from Mara, and from Entrapta's initial analysis in this episode.
But Catra wasn't there for any of that. The only thing she knows about opening the portal is
1) Adora telling her that it would bring the rest of the Horde, which would be good for her, or so she assumes.
2) Entrapta telling her, in very brief and fairly ambiguous words, in the eleventh hour, and after Catra was already severely affected by the encounter with Shadow Weaver, that opening it would be bad somehow.
Catra wasn't present for any of the world-ending warnings, and nobody told her about them. The only person who was present for Entrapta's analysis and in a position to stop Catra was...Scorpia, who doesn't say anything.
So no, she actually wasn't intending to sacrifice everything, which is pretty clear when you look at her expression - not that of someone ready to end it all, but of someone who thought they had finally won.
It's a really interesting situation and one that's often misunderstood, because the audience has so much more information than the characters.
Thank you. Too many people say "Catra committed genocide" and that just tells me you watched the show while browsing tiktok.
Wow, did I write this? Thank you for typing all this up, I'm glad someone else is saying it. I may steal this in the future, good job!
@@nenakarra2579 Not to mention that genocide involves actively targeting a particular demographic. It's not even the right word for the situation, and is kinda endemic of how people will couch edgy and ill-conceived analyses in overly-serious language for the sake of discourse.
This episode is actually lousy with 'Catra bad because she should have known about something she didn't see' .
The exchange between Adora and Entrapta suggests that Catra deliberately lied where her 'they abandoned you' theory is entirely reasonable with the information available to her.
Beyond some of the technical who-heard-what stuff there's also the broader issue of Catra increasingly not being in her best mind since Adora revealed where SW was. I think her real crossing the Rubicon moment was actually zapping Entrapta and I think her own reaction to it speaks to that and even here it's fresh off an encounter with people invading the fright zone and giving her some volts. Once she did that 'for the mission' I don't think she has much leeway to back down later.
@@AmurTiger I mean, the episode never villainizes Catra, she is portrayed extremely sympathetically. Now, the audience on the other hand...
9:50 COMPLETELY agree. Loraine Toussaint is PHENOMENAL in this show. A big reason Shadow Weaver's my favorite character.
I would argue that Keston John is the best performer because of his ability to clearly distinguish Hordak from Horde Prime and Wrong Hordak. For example, listen to Hordak's reunion with Horde Prime. That is literally just Keston John talking to himself but you could swear that he's in the middle of a two sided conversation.
But yes, Loraine Toussant is bloody amazing too. She always keeps you guessing about what Shadow Weaver is truly planning because even when she's saying something that could be beneficial to the good guys, you always get the sense that there's an ulterior motive behind it.
The voice acting is one of the best things about this show. I think Christine Woods was the weakest member of the cast in Season 1 but by the time we reached Season 5, she had grown so much as a voice actress that she was able to carry the whole season on her shoulders whilst also firmly cementing Entrapta as the best character in the entire show. Even with Catra's dogshit "redemption" arc and Adora and Glimmer's character assassinations, AJ Michalka, Aimee Carrero and Karen Fukuhara still did their best to work with the shitty scripts, so I can't blame them for how badly their characters were written in Season 5.
@@tomnorton4277 Agreed. Keston and Lorraine are almost tied for first in my opinion, but Lorraine JUST BARELY edges him out.
Kenny: Is the whip going to be a mainstay now?
Montana: For Catra? [Expression says "God I hope so"] I think so.
11:15
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Catra shocking Entrapta after she wants to tell Hordak about the implications of the portal is no accident: she does look shocked immediately after she tased her (as if she's surprised that she was capable of doing that to Entrapta) but she also does not want to lose again to Adora (which is a sentiment that guides all of her decisions in this episode), which indicates that this is partly just her acting on some built-up resentment against Entrapta and it is a way to get back at the latter for stealing the spotlight from her that she feels she has worked for all this time because she has wanted to be in Hordak's good graces for a long time and it's only once she realised that was no longer possible that she started dunking on him too. Entrapta had a meaningful relationship with Hordak without even trying and Catra kinda seems to resent her for that. When she hence tells Hordak that Entrapta betrayed them it's not just so he won't get mad at her for sending her to Beast island and to ensure that the portal is opened, it's also a way for her to hurt him the only way she can, namely emotionally, by destroying the one positive relationship he has.
I will say that the show does an excellent job in terms of making the characters relatable enough that the audience knows why Catra's reaction here is what it is whilst making sure the audience knows that Catra's sad life is partly of her own making because she's essentially turning on everyone around her (the clear example would be Scorpia) and making choices that might feel good to her in this moment where she just wants to wreck everything but they ultimately just make things worse for everyone in the long-run, including herself because the implication is that the planet could cease to exist. Shadow Weaver being an abusive parent and tricking and abandoning her yet again is terrible but it is also not something that can excuse Catra's decisions here because she's essentially getting so angry at everything that she no longer cares if the world goes to hell and she makes that big decision at the end because she knows it is exactly what Adora does not want to see happen and hence she decides to act out of spite.
This is all very intriguing to me and just goes to show what exceptional characters the showrunners were able to turn some of these characters into.
20:19 When Scorpia gasps and smiles from relief and happiness to see Catra there and not messing with the portal breaks my heart every time! Like she's just SO relieved and hopeful that Catra is finally making a turn for the best...just for Catra to literally shove her face away and demand that the portal be opened even though it'll destroy the planet, attack Entrapta and send her to a death sentence, and then betray their friendship by threatening to do the same to Scorpia over nothing...its just heartbreaking!! Poor Scorpia TT^TT
Bow, holding his face in his hand: *groans*
you know Glimmer's choice was bad when Bow disagrees with it
@@nenakarra2579 Absolutely
23:33 and I thought the video froze itself for a second there lol
Here we are, the final moments of the 2nd quarter.
And the 1st half will close out with a serious game changer.
I believe that they should have listened to Angella. If Shadow Weaver hadn't gotten in the Fright Zone, then things wouldn't have escalated to the point of Catra to going ballistic.
@Isis Jenkins Nope.
With no Shadow Weaver almost killing Catra, Catra would have been in her quarters like in the beginning of the episode. It'd all be in Hordak and Entrapta's hands, as it was originally planned. They'd have to decide what to do. Maybe Entrapta would have convinced Hordak and Catra to wait until they can find a different way.
Then later Angella would have likely launched her carefully thought out plan and save Adora with no teenagers going gang-ho in the military base, causing chaos.
@Isis Jenkins Based on what? That's utterly nonsensical.
@@nenakarra2579 That's true. Without Glimmer and gang rushing in, Adora still would have convinced Entrapta to look into the risks of opening the portal. Catra would still not be in a great place, but she wouldn't be on the warpath like she was after being triggered by Shadow Weaver. Without Catra stopping Entrapta from speaking to Hordak about the risks of opening a portal, I think Entrapta would have convinced Hordak to hold off until they are sure that the portal won't destroy the world (as we see earlier in the episode, Hordak isn't exactly opposed to him and Entrapta taking their time to get it "perfect").
Montana: I have great taste in men.
Kenny: bites lip smiling
Me: aaawwwweeeee
oh this episode is so so good and one of my favorites in season 3! Catra confronting Shadow Weaver is so sad and her not caring about anything and being willing to betray entrapta and scorpia is terrifying.
Yes I can’t wait for the Percy Jackson Disney Plus series and will definitely watch it with you
One of the BEST cliffhanger endings in the entire show, which is saying something, as there are some GOOD ones.
Oh my word the symbolism of shadows and light during the conversations this episode.. Just wow
"I like crazy only in women. I have excellent taste in men" GIRL SAME. Montana, relatable queen
Ughhh the foreshadowing in this episode. Here comes the chaos.
The stunned silence at the end of the episode is *chef's kiss*
"The anomalies will be catastrophic. It will unhinge time and space, creating a warped reality that will collapse in on itself, erasing us from existence!"
Entrapta clearly is a big fan of Donnie Darko.
Very curious to see how high the Catra Simp Counter will get in the future.
Season 4 will be ridiculously high. Even at her most Catra, the confidence, the swag, the hair physics just *chefs kiss*.
Season 4 and specifically season 5 catra it's just-
@@juanitaparpandacute3511 I definitely don't want to spoil, but I can't help seeing Season 5 Catra in a whole new light after recent (at least to me) revelations about the show's creator.
@@jimballard1186 what about the creator exactly are we talking about....
@@juanitaparpandacute3511 Kinda spoilers for the show. Nothing big, but I'm doing the irritating line of periods thing just to be safe for anyone who doesn't want to read it.
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I read Catra's character arc as one in which she can't understand who or what she is because she's been so brainwashed by Shadow-Weaver that she's incapable of seeing her own truth, let alone living it. I originally took that as nothing but a plain childhood trauma metaphor. Now that I know Stevenson is trans, I can't help going back through the series the same way I went back through the Matrix trilogy, wondering if I missed signs of a trans allegory in Catra or even in Adora, whose transformations to become the hero she imagines everyone values her for being sure could have trans elements to them.
the finale of this season is sooo good ugh I cant wait for your reaction to it.
You're the only TH-camrs to realise this early that Hordak is also a victim of abuse in this show and to me that's very important. Like a LOT of people dismiss that, because hi is the "villain"
Hordak's nowhere near as villainous as Catra is because unlike Catra, he didn't know that he was the bad guy. Catra's been fully aware of it since the beginning of the show and simply doesn't care.
@@tomnorton4277 Well, Hordak has literally, conquered and enslaved entire *_galaxies_* as the second-in-command of the most evil and powerful empire in the history of the universe, and crushed the first Princess Alliance. So yeah, there's that.
@@tomnorton4277 you serious?
@@tobsonasanya4765 Yep. Hordak's a brainwashed cult slave. Catra's a sociopath who was fully aware that she was evil and didn't care.
@@tomnorton4277 lol over exaggeration much / also catra was abused too. Both were bad although hordak did more bad things
this episode and the last 2 after it are prolly some of my favourite episodes in the whole show tbh
There's something about the scene of Shadow Weaver shocking Catra and then encasing her in shadows that gets me every time
She ra: childhood trauma, abusive parents, psychological problems,
Also she ra: is a kids show
I look forward to your reactions every week! I usually wait til' Friday to watch them so I can be motivated to get through my assignments :)
17:05 thats where the goo came from, its from one of bows trick arrows that he shot into Catra's whip, which she then launched back at him
29:43 , I didn’t expect to hear that username here but nice to see they are still asking amazing questions of media even if it can’t be on Talks Machina at the moment.
I hope they react to The Legend of Vox Machina.
@@karlwilker579 Me too! That would be so fun :)
19:18 there was no roll in the eyeroll, you just looked up. I would recommend trying to make it a bit more fluent by going from up to the side in several stepts. In addition you could also try making it more dramatic by adding a sight or something. Hope that helps!
Wouldn’t it be great if Catra made one good decision in her life 😭😭😭😭
It would truly be fantastic if she did one good thing in her life😩
@@Marta-uv4id She does, often even. ( Covers for Adora when she ditched, returns the sword, gives SW the magic thingy, tries to disentangle Scorpia from the doom she thinks is coming with Hordak punishing her, has a reasonably nice amount of interest/patience for Entrapta's 'theories' ) She often gets punished for it if she can't use it to her advantage and generally doing nice things is something you try to get away with not something you can freely express in the Horde.
Where things fall apart for her is that she doesn't believe there's a place where you can just do good things and have a happy/free life. She expects the rest of the world to treat her as poorly as the Horde has.
@@AmurTiger I know, I was just making a reference to her line in Corridors.
This episode kinda foreshadows the lightning symbolism that´s used for the rest of the show, specially in season 4
OOOOO NOO, i am so anxious to watch it! I cant watch it on the Patreon right now than i gotta wait
Love this episode for amazing cliffhanger
Now we pass the point of no return in more then one meaning those who know will understand, and as Dr. Strange would say it:"We're in the endgame now."
Would unironically enjoy a H20 watch through, me n my friends will watch through it occasionally to this day
"I love crazy but only with women"
Girl i feel you
Hordak signals Hoard Prime.
Hoard Prime: new phone who this?
I HEARD POTENTIAL FOR AN “H2O: Just Add Water” REACTION. LETS GOOOOO
Just one word- PAAAIIIINNNN that's it
Just saying... The core that Entrapta gave to Hordak for his suit says LUVD in First Ones language
This episode truly as no space for joy
When glimmer and Angella argued and the line 'you'll always be here' was said in anger, I knew we would lose her 😭
Never trust Shadow Weaver. It's a good guiding principle. Sometimes Shadow Weaver's knowledge or skills are needed, but assuming she has an ulterior motive or something is always a good idea.
It also has some of those "Azula always lies" vibes too, doesn't it?
16:19 yes to a H2o mermaids reaction, I loooooooove that show
I didn’t realize Entrapta was scratching her head with the sword all this time until Kenny pointed it out! X’D
From this episode on it getting really good. 2 more episodes till the end of s3
S4 incoming with one of the best characters let's call them DT to avoid spoilers (if you know, you know😏)
Love the reactions ❤
when i said that catra could destroy the world and i would still not be able to hate her, i mean it, but what made me mad this episode was what she did to entrepta, and how she treated scorpia, and i know she was blinded by the anger of the moment, but anyway it makes me feel bad for scorpia and entrepta because I love them, but even so I can't hate catra for everything, she represents so many important things to me and how identified I feel with her, and I love her. BUT that does not mean that what she is doing is okey. I'm in a complicated position right now.
What Entrapta was doing was not right either. She was making a portal for a giant army to invade the planet. But I still sympathized with her.
@@athena3268 There's a scene, I think it may have been skipped over in these reactions, where Hordak tells Entrapa about the rest of the universe. He calls their planet a backwater and implies he thinks they'd be better off with contact with the rest of the universe, and I think that had a big influence on Entrapta. She wants to open the portal but she doesn't really see it as an invasion, she sees it more like Earth being welcomed into a galactic federation or something. After all, she's a princess and part of the horde and they treat her fine, so would it really be so bad? She's wrong, but I think there's more going on than just refusing to consider what she's doing.
Ugh I love this season!!! I have my tissues ready
I would love "My Boyfriend Watches H2O for the first time" 🤣
The H2O reference brought back memories ngl
You know it gets real the second the episode ends and there's no music in the credits, actual goosebumps
THE WAY I WOULD SCREAMM IF YALL REACTED TO THE PJO SERIES WHEN IT COMES OUT THOSE BOOKS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE WAS LITERALLY MY RELIGION
I just feel in love with the h20 reaction idea hahaha, for some reason I loved that show.
16:18 I'd love to see you two react to H2O, though if you want a truly amazing mermaid show with actual CGI-ed mermaids then you should watch 2018 "Siren". No silicone tails or knees in sight. The plot, characters, special effects and music are all gold AND that way you'd both go in blind, not just Kenny
“We need to watch the live action pjo series”
I WILL SELL MY SOUL
So long as they don't watch the movies as well...
*internal screaming*
I'll have to admit Kenny, you and Montana are like siblings.
both of you have had amazing hair recently!!!
"Where does all goo come from?" WHAT HAHAHA
3x4 ah oof is this is one I'm thinkin' of
2:09 mm having it on displacement
4:32 though she did take some hesitance in her tone
7:30 yep yep
9:50 it's just amazing--both Weaver and Spinner
16:15 JUST ADD WATER
WAIT WAIT WAIT----YOU NEED TO REACT PLEASE MY HECK
The fin---who wasn't, though?
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20:55 sa d sad
19:53 oh yeah youre good
21:20 her voice on the "you can't" aa
24:50 oh yeah...that's exactly
Great video! Just sth that struck my mind and I wanted to share: since you guys seem to always be curious about a new series to watch in the future, how about another cartoon classic: "Gravity Falls" . Id love to see your reactions and theories to the shows mysteries and story!
Oh man, this episode!!!
Now is when things start getting serious!
That shadow weaver manipulation counter is going to break next season
Even tho what catra did in this episode was really bad, maybe the worst thing she did in the entire show (Although she created her dream reality instead of destroying the world) I don't blame her, after all she's been through, im surprised she didn't kword herself before, she's really strong for keep going even if everything is a piece of sh!t
And she isn't in her right mind now so i don't think she's Fully aware of what you are doing, She is really gonna regret it in the future, everything, I mean Living with that weight in your conscience, whether you are bad or not, whether it is on purpose or not. No one would feel okey with it. So great! Worsening her mental health even more. WHO WROTE THIS. Just let her be happy 😩😩
@@avocadostyles9020 SEASON 4 SPOILER - i think it's really interesting that when catra recovers from this scene, and is calmer, she doesnt try to fix her mistakes - in fact, she doubles down. Catra decides, "I did these terrible things, so that must mean I'm evil, and I need to keep being evil or my self image will fall apart. So I won't apologise to Adora, or to Glimmer, or to Scorpia, and I'm certainly not going to save Entrapta". With the latter point in particular, she keeps telling Scorpia that Entrapta betrayed them and hopes that if she says it enough times, then it will be true, like Catra is so horrified by her attempted friend murder that she doesn't want to acknowledge it happened. I love when this gets revisited in season 5.
I genuinely think pulling the switch was her trying to kill herself and taking everyone else with her.
@@Who_Caresx I don't think she believed Entrapta's words, period. This is proven next episode where we see her true wish. She doesn't want to die, she wants happiness with Adora.
don't tell me you love Percy Jackson too! You guys are even more amazing than I thought lmaooo
i can't-
i love this show so much....
I’m so excited but also not ready for next episode….
KENNY'S EYEROLL 😭
Woah that makes so much sense!!! Just used google translate and “despondos” is Portuguese for dispossession!
No Catra simp moment when Kenny asks about the whip?
Ohohoooooohhhhh THIS episode. Lol welcome to season 3 hell.
An h2o series where Montana is the expert would be so funny
Ah yes, the ep where I really *really* started hating… Glimmer. Yes, Glimmer not Catra. Catra at this point is waaaay off the deep end after a lifetime of abuse. Doesn’t excuse it but does explain it. Glimmer has no such excuse, refuses to listen to anyone else, never explains or even engages in conversation and gets tempted by power.
in this episode, glimmer was just trying to save her friend by any means necessary
Glimmer lost a parent to the Horde at a very young age, and her relationship to authority is a complicated one. Characters exist to fulfil a narrative purpose, and it's very silly to go on hating a character for having flaws and making a bad decision at the behest of a serial manipulator. I for one will never understand the need to point fingers at fictional flawed teenagers and yell "Bad person! Bad person! Bad person!"
@@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou Uh... that last part may be a *tiny* bit of an over-reaction? Let me be absolutely clear about this: every single character in this entire show is very, very well realised. There are always motivations behind what they do and their actions are usually consistent. It's why I am a huge champion for it despite being a long way outside of its target demographic. However Glimmer is, *in my opinion*... not living up to her potential. Shall we put it that way? This is going to be way too long, sorry, but I think it's worth delving into.
Yes, she looses her father to the Horde. This absolutely sucks and would cause quite a few mental health issues. But she is clearly loved by her mother, has every opportunity to learn how to be a good leader and, indeed, princess (I won't say Queen as she thinks that'll never happen owing to the whole immortal mom thing) and *doesn't take them*. It's that which makes her grate, at least for me, the frustration that she could be so much more but chose this path. In fact by the time we get here she's actively gotten worse as a commander compared to S1 where she at least tried to convince others her plan was worth doing. She has critical information, sure, and she's worried about her friend... but her mom / queen / CO is absolutely right. There's no plan at all and she makes terrible choices throughout this episode which, though unintentional, play a significant factor in Catra pulling that switch. She doesn't even *try* to engage with anyone else and just charges ahead despite two seasons (2 + 3 are clearly one season split so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt here) showing her that this is usually a terrible idea.
Worse than that, she begins to show worrying signs of getting seduced by power (much like her father in fact). Watch that Shadow Weaver scene again. Glimmer is rightfully cautious as this is a terrible idea but what convinces her to try it? Not a promise to rescue Adora but the lure of finding out how much more powerful she can be. It's in service of saving her friend, yes... but that's a very dangerous road to travel and she really ought to know better at this point.
But here's the thing.... I say all that to illustrate why I really hate that character in this moment but also it's absolutely *right* for the show. In many ways Glimmer is the mirror of Catra. One brought up in a life of abuse and torment with even love being considered a finite resource. One brought up in luxury with all of the advantages she could wish though with a wound between her and her mother that neither deal with particularly well. In the harsh light of day both tend to make bad decisions that could end disastrously. Both are attracted to power though for slightly different reasons. Catra sees power as key to her own safety and survival, Glimmer more to protect the kingdom at least as she sees that role (hi Thor, didn't see you there). And here, really for the first time, we see those roads come together at a critical moment and the results are.... to be revealed in the next episode! (Spoilers and all that ;-) )
Glimmer's journey is often overlooked because, well, she's one of the heroes, right? We're conditioned to assume that reckless decisions are just bravery when it comes from those wearing white hats. Or, umm, those who sparkle in this case. But in truth you really can delve into Glimmer almost as much as you can Catra or Adora and, as with most well realised characters, their decisions often aren't the right ones. Sometimes in small ways, sometimes in large but - and again this is IMO - dismissing them does a disservice to the tremendous work put in to realise such complex characters in the first place and cheapens their journey considerably.
I love this show sm man
As a kids show we know the good ones ultimately win, so I did had a pleasure moment of Catra getting a win amongst SW fucking her up for so long. Even SW saying there was no way bc she was too weak, Catra still got this win😭💀 i celebrated knowing ultimately the good ones win
S4 is a lot of complex human emotions S3 was like the turning point
Bell yeah girl, destroy the world, I don't even want to exist!! Matirial grwoooord💅💅
THE WHOLE SHOW SO FAR APPLIES TO TWO SENTENCES : ,,PEOPLE ALWAYS TRY TO DESTROY WHAT THEY CAN`T CONTROL!" - The She-ra`s, Horde prime soldiers, Catra from Shadoweaver...
and ,,YOU SHOULDN`T BE ASHAMED THAT YOU AREN`T PERFECT, IMPERFECTIONS MAKE PROGRESS POSSIBLE!" and the fact that there is no such thing as ,,perfections" gives opportunity for eternal progress.
7:27 Yes she does ❤️