I have never seen an Anamorphic lens on a home projector before. When Digital cinema (in Cinemas) first came out, some prints were Anamorphic, and an Anamorphic lens was placed over the backing lens. But that was short-lived and never happens today. Within the projector, macros are created, (for all ratios), and in this case with the 2.39 ratio, the projector zooms the image up, until it fills the frame with the correct the ratio. Normally all formats will fill top and bottom of the screen, and the width will be in line with the ratio. Great video.
Good day. I’m the proud owner of a SilverTicket 120’ 16:9 white screen and a subscriber to your channel. I’ve been waiting for another option, SilverTicket removable masking panels!! I would buy them.
We have looked and are continually looking into that, but at this time we have not found the right design to release onto the market. It is one of the many things into which we are dipping our toes. For now, however, it is a DIY portion of perfecting the home theater.
Silver Ticket Products ...Thank you for your response. I have thought about purchasing your 115’ 2.35:1 screen(unfortunately smaller due to space)but holding out hope for your masking panels. I love the whole screen being filled by 16.9 content. I’ve been living with the black bars. Always looking for new products from you. Keep up the great work and thank you again for great product.👍
i have a uhd51 and a 16/9 91 inch screen. i simply zoom in 9 times on the wide movies and itll cut a little off the sides but it works great. very rarely youll notice but that can happen with text heavy or ui element. Still untill i can aford a dual ratio screen this is my only solution. and one i like. i just with i could save it as a profile on one button. Still its my first projector and i know when i get another in a couple years ill want some sort of profiling or memory shift, ill add skew to my list
is it possible to do option #2 in reverse? By this i mean use a projector that displays in 2.35:1 natively and just have black bars on the sides when viewing 16:9/4:3 content. Do such projectors exists at an affordable level for consumers?
i have a elite white 125 inch 2.35.1 ratio edge-less screen paired with my benq tk 800 m 4k projector will this be the best combo for mainly movies and 4k gaming as apposed to the cine grey 3d 120 inch 16.9 ratio screens i don't want to have to take my screen back so hopefully i got the right one PS you helped me understand the difference in aspect ratios and i play all my content at night in a well closed light free environment so the black bars i don't think will even show but just wanted to know some of you're thoughts on it thanks
@@VannCD2066 Yeah, use that money to buy a better projector instead. These lenses was necessary when film roll was used, now it’s just a waste of money and effort.
"when you say "the width of the screen the arrow points UP" Yes, it points at the horizontal edge, which can also be referred to as the width of the screen. "when you say the Height of the screen the arrow points to the side" Same, but with the vertical edge.
Great explanation! May i ask what solution I can use if my screen is 9 x 15 but I'm projecting an image off of an iPad Pro which has a 4:3 ratio? Thanks!
Since it’s possible to project in 2:35:1 at home since all media is formatted for 16:9 screens is it possible to have films formatted for 2:35:1 screens pretty much what they use for cinema realise
What about having a manual or electrical retractable 16:9 big screen where you project your 16:9 movie normally and then, when you want to see 2.35:1 content you retract it's height a bit and it will be perfect?
That would work, but you would need to make sure the image isn't centered, but alighted to the top of the projected image. Otherwise you would have to lens shift the image up to align to the screen.
@@brianratte9007 yes ,you are technically correct "Skippy". The fact that many people including myself happen to be satisfied with the ability to use the zoom and lens memory to achieve basically the same thing no doubt keeps you from sleeping at night is just humorous. I can also tell by your comment that you where just a little bit excessively exited to make your point that the Epson 5050ub does in fact not project in a ,"proper" 2.35:1 ratio! It will be ok Brian, I promise you! The sun will still come up tomorrow and the birds will still chirp. Take a deep breath and relax.... .
So zooming or manipulation means you lose 30% of your resolution, 30% of your contrast, and in some cases 30% of your brightness, you are also expanding pixel size increasing the chance of fringing...
confirm on 5050(or 5040/6040/6050 - entire UB line comes with fully motorised 16 group all glass lens) - way i programed on mine - with the push of a single button on remote(lens 2) it streches into 2:35:1 and when done another click(lens 1) and it goes back to 16:9- all from remote never having to touch the projector itself. It might loose some brightness/contrast but with 2600lm rated (actual measured around 3000lm) and contrast of 1mil to 1(due to special ultrablack filter - hence UB in the name as well as auto iris) - there is brightness and contrast to spare. There is a reason 5050 is a reference projector for many projector sites. Anam. lens might be a bit better but it also costs as much as 5050ub itself
Or use a Barco Residential which uses a 5.2k anamirphic chip so no overshooting, no loss of brightness, contrast and resolution, no need for a bulky anamorphic lens. Full 4k 16:9, 5.2k native anamorphic... this being the best way
@@brianratte9007 not necessarily. Unless you are buying an uber cheap projector and lens combo (which brings a whole lot of another issues). Say you are using one of the projectors that cost $10k to $20k. Once you add a scaler and lens...you are up to the price and you have a far longer chain to run, other artefact issues can arise as well. ...and you are near or at the cost of a Barco Bragi CS...
plEASE GO BACK TO 16.9 MOVIE RATIO ....WE MISS OUT SO MUCH WITH THIS STUPID 2.35 RATIO ,ESPECIALLY WATCHING BIG MOVIES ,WE LOOSE THE IMPACT ALSO A REDUCED HORIZONTAL SCEEN SIZE WHICH IS EXTREEMELY ANNOYING...
@@saintsalive6491 He's not shouting, can you see that the "p" from "please" is on lower case? This means that he had the upper case enabled by mistake...Anyways, Peter is wrong, cause 16:9 was never a movie format, at the beginning it was 4:3, then 2:35....poor Peter...LOL
Movies are almost always filmed in 2.35:1. For those who want the movie the way the director intended, 2.35:1 is a great option. However, 16:9 is very widely accepted and common for home theaters.
For a Home Theater, it's pretty common to have 2:35:1 always on your mind, as it's made for mostly movies. TV shows and now streaming services aren't going to be the highlight of my home theater. It's showcasing a 4k blu-ray with correct audio and video aspects. Something I won't get over streaming.
@@WartyWarthogHogger amen to that, im thinking the same thing. Thats why im going to get a Anamorphic lens. small fortune but will be amazingly more immersive. cant wait
I have never seen an Anamorphic lens on a home projector before. When Digital cinema (in Cinemas) first came out, some prints were Anamorphic, and an Anamorphic lens was placed over the backing lens. But that was short-lived and never happens today. Within the projector, macros are created, (for all ratios), and in this case with the 2.39 ratio, the projector zooms the image up, until it fills the frame with the correct the ratio. Normally all formats will fill top and bottom of the screen, and the width will be in line with the ratio. Great video.
Yeas… I have some rare 90s DVD true anamorphic squeezed video….I change the aspect ratio on projector then the fills up the screen
@@neoaureus That sounds great that you can do that. Thank you for your reply. All the best.
Really great explanation, thank you for this valuable video. Hope find you with more video. Thank you...
Demonstrates this with Tron: Legacy which bounces back and forth from 2.35:1 to IMAX (cropped to 1.78:1) Not the movie to go anamorphic with.
Just dont use anamorphic.
Good day. I’m the proud owner of a SilverTicket 120’ 16:9 white screen and a subscriber to your channel. I’ve been waiting for another option, SilverTicket removable masking panels!! I would buy them.
We have looked and are continually looking into that, but at this time we have not found the right design to release onto the market. It is one of the many things into which we are dipping our toes. For now, however, it is a DIY portion of perfecting the home theater.
Silver Ticket Products ...Thank you for your response. I have thought about purchasing your 115’ 2.35:1 screen(unfortunately smaller due to space)but holding out hope for your masking panels. I love the whole screen being filled by 16.9 content. I’ve been living with the black bars. Always looking for new products from you. Keep up the great work and thank you again for great product.👍
Your detailed explanation is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Hi I have dangbei mars pro 4k projector I need to know how to get a lenses the same as u have to make the picture bigger
i have a uhd51 and a 16/9 91 inch screen. i simply zoom in 9 times on the wide movies and itll cut a little off the sides but it works great. very rarely youll notice but that can happen with text heavy or ui element. Still untill i can aford a dual ratio screen this is my only solution. and one i like. i just with i could save it as a profile on one button. Still its my first projector and i know when i get another in a couple years ill want some sort of profiling or memory shift, ill add skew to my list
this video explains the process 100 x better then the people at Panamorph do!
with there ridiculously overpriced $9000 lens
panoramic i use
Thanks clear explanation
Great explanation video! I love my silver ticket screen. Keep up the great work!
Yes, it s true
what about a projector that comes with the 2.35 lens zoom option?
The best explanation! Thanks!
This may sound stupid, is there any projector that does a 1.1:1 ratio? Basically a cube image?
is it possible to do option #2 in reverse? By this i mean use a projector that displays in 2.35:1 natively and just have black bars on the sides when viewing 16:9/4:3 content. Do such projectors exists at an affordable level for consumers?
no projectors do native 2.35
Great video I will be sending this to all my customers!
New one is 21x9 screen now
i have a elite white 125 inch 2.35.1 ratio edge-less screen paired with my benq tk 800 m 4k projector will this be the best combo for mainly movies and 4k gaming as apposed to the cine grey 3d 120 inch 16.9 ratio screens i don't want to have to take my screen back so hopefully i got the right one PS you helped me understand the difference in aspect ratios and i play all my content at night in a well closed light free environment so the black bars i don't think will even show but just wanted to know some of you're thoughts on it thanks
The best explanation! Keep it up! Thank you
I just don't understand why an anamorphic lens costs anywhere from 6-10K, more than most quality projectors out there
How much is a anamorphic lens?
Haha 😄 I wonder why that detail was omitted
anamorphic lens cost U$D 6.000 Y 9.000 :-o
@@VannCD2066 Yeah, use that money to buy a better projector instead. These lenses was necessary when film roll was used, now it’s just a waste of money and effort.
Great Video Bro Very Good Job😎😍👍
Mistake...when you say "the width of the screen the arrow points UP...and when you say the Height of the screen the arrow points to the side.
"when you say "the width of the screen the arrow points UP" Yes, it points at the horizontal edge, which can also be referred to as the width of the screen.
"when you say the Height of the screen the arrow points to the side" Same, but with the vertical edge.
Great explanation! May i ask what solution I can use if my screen is 9 x 15 but I'm projecting an image off of an iPad Pro which has a 4:3 ratio? Thanks!
Since it’s possible to project in 2:35:1 at home since all media is formatted for 16:9 screens is it possible to have films formatted for 2:35:1 screens pretty much what they use for cinema realise
It is possible, they just don't do it.
Quality video with great detail 👍
What type of Anamorphic lens 1.33x or 1.55x or 2.0x??? for projector 16/9???
Great expalanation!
What about having a manual or electrical retractable 16:9 big screen where you project your 16:9 movie normally and then, when you want to see 2.35:1 content you retract it's height a bit and it will be perfect?
That would work, but you would need to make sure the image isn't centered, but alighted to the top of the projected image. Otherwise you would have to lens shift the image up to align to the screen.
Hey guys what is the low cost screen you guys have for my projector? I use sony vpl ex100
Hi. If looking for the lowest cost. We would suggest checking out our clearance screens.
Ironically Back to the Future is 35mm
If its a projector just dont use a screen and with the lights out you will only see the projected image no black bars.
You barely know the difference if you stretched 16:9 to 2.35:1, it's just too bad 2.35 is not natively supported...
1:29 This Illustration is confusing
The epson 5050ub does this without a separate anamorphic lense.
No, just no. It is a 16:9 projector.
@@brianratte9007 yes ,you are technically correct "Skippy". The fact that many people including myself happen to be satisfied with the ability to use the zoom and lens memory to achieve basically the same thing no doubt keeps you from sleeping at night is just humorous. I can also tell by your comment that you where just a little bit excessively exited to make your point that the Epson 5050ub does in fact not project in a ,"proper" 2.35:1 ratio! It will be ok Brian, I promise you! The sun will still come up tomorrow and the birds will still chirp. Take a deep breath and relax....
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So zooming or manipulation means you lose 30% of your resolution, 30% of your contrast, and in some cases 30% of your brightness, you are also expanding pixel size increasing the chance of fringing...
@@dreamav8161 ok....can't say I disagree with you. (Shrugging shoulders) Your point?
confirm on 5050(or 5040/6040/6050 - entire UB line comes with fully motorised 16 group all glass lens) - way i programed on mine - with the push of a single button on remote(lens 2) it streches into 2:35:1 and when done another click(lens 1) and it goes back to 16:9- all from remote never having to touch the projector itself. It might loose some brightness/contrast but with 2600lm rated (actual measured around 3000lm) and contrast of 1mil to 1(due to special ultrablack filter - hence UB in the name as well as auto iris) - there is brightness and contrast to spare. There is a reason 5050 is a reference projector for many projector sites. Anam. lens might be a bit better but it also costs as much as 5050ub itself
Everything should be 16:9
good video....but the music....ugh
Or use a Barco Residential which uses a 5.2k anamirphic chip so no overshooting, no loss of brightness, contrast and resolution, no need for a bulky anamorphic lens.
Full 4k 16:9, 5.2k native anamorphic... this being the best way
Except it costs a good bit more than a decent 16:9 projector with an anamorphic lens.
@@brianratte9007 not necessarily. Unless you are buying an uber cheap projector and lens combo (which brings a whole lot of another issues). Say you are using one of the projectors that cost $10k to $20k. Once you add a scaler and lens...you are up to the price and you have a far longer chain to run, other artefact issues can arise as well.
...and you are near or at the cost of a Barco Bragi CS...
Once 8k projectors becomes mainstream it’ll be relatively irrelevant
plEASE GO BACK TO 16.9 MOVIE RATIO ....WE MISS OUT SO MUCH WITH THIS STUPID 2.35 RATIO ,ESPECIALLY WATCHING BIG MOVIES ,WE LOOSE THE IMPACT ALSO A REDUCED HORIZONTAL SCEEN SIZE WHICH IS EXTREEMELY ANNOYING...
SHOUTING!
It's been 2 years, have you learned to talk properly yet?
@@saintsalive6491 He's not shouting, can you see that the "p" from "please" is on lower case? This means that he had the upper case enabled by mistake...Anyways, Peter is wrong, cause 16:9 was never a movie format, at the beginning it was 4:3, then 2:35....poor Peter...LOL
2.35 IS rubbish ,BIG MOVIES need 1.85 OR 16.9...
Movies are almost always filmed in 2.35:1. For those who want the movie the way the director intended, 2.35:1 is a great option.
However, 16:9 is very widely accepted and common for home theaters.
For a Home Theater, it's pretty common to have 2:35:1 always on your mind, as it's made for mostly movies. TV shows and now streaming services aren't going to be the highlight of my home theater. It's showcasing a 4k blu-ray with correct audio and video aspects. Something I won't get over streaming.
@@WartyWarthogHogger amen to that, im thinking the same thing. Thats why im going to get a Anamorphic lens. small fortune but will be amazingly more immersive. cant wait