Not only did I pause to read the sensor caption, I rewound it first so I could pause and then read it. That's dedication and love ...lots of love. Side note: Canon said they gave their spot to the S1R. Because, L-MOUNT ALLIANCE!!!!
Good news is the rIV now has iso of 50. Which is great! I used this and a few other videos to make my choice. The a7Riv is the best protrait/landscape camera I've ever used. It's the envy of my friends forsure.
Why do i always say the intro with Jared out loud with a crazy sounding voice...... 'Freuuu kneuws photoeeeeuoohhhhh''' *pause.. DOT COM.... Even my girlfriend is laughing when i start a video of you hahaha
Thanks Jared, as a Nikon guy you weren't afraid to state the reality here for many. The Sony is just better overall right now. As a longtime Nikon and Canon photojournalist myself (29 years on the Inquirer staff) , I have moved to Sony and love my A7RIV and A9. BTW Allen's is my camera store too, has been since they opened. Cheers
Hi Jared, what is your real world experience with sensor dust on the Sony. Many reviews I read have big concerns over dust affecting images on the Sony as there is no built in internal cover to protect the sensor when changing lenses I gather.
Often when you discuss cameras for a photo journalist. Would you ever say you opinion would change for landscape? I have a Nikon d750 and love it. Don’t know if you have advise for future camera in Nikon or switch?
Hi! i’m looking into getting the Sony A7R IV. The one thing that is holding me back is the fact that it does not have auto stacking or auto bracketing. would you say that plays a roll in the quality of images? Or could you please tell me more based on this subject. I really want to purchase this camera but before i go all Sony i want to make sure it’s right for me! thank you!
great review. I'm giving my A7rIII to my son at college. I was considering replacing it with the Nikon as the menu system on the Sony is frustratingly (is that a word?) complex and I also was a Nikonian for decades before I got the Sony at the recommendation from my cousin who is a pro. But after watching this, the choice seems pretty clear to stay in the Sony world and get the updated version. Thanks for helping me spend $700 more than I planned!
Why was the Eos R not compared with these 2? Is it that much far back compared to these 2?(forgive me if my question may sound dumb, I'm still new to photography)
I'm curious about astrophotography. Does the shiny electronic shutter generate less vibration than a dslr? I've had it make a difference through a telescope
So mr I shout everything in manual so I pick that camera because the AUTO Focus is better.Since you shoot in RAW I figured you would also pick the camera with the best jpeg pictures.
it's going to be a firmware update, eye AF is a machine learning eye detection algorithm, they need to train their neural network better. there is no need to change the hardware.
I'm a former Nikon user who went Sony about 6 years ago. I have an adapter to use my F-mount lenses and I also have an an adapter to use my M-mount lenses. I have no regrets. I just upgraded from an a7r ii to the a7r iv.
Great comparison, Jared, but my question is...Why not compare the Z7 to the Sony a7Rlll, since their sensors are closer in resolution? Thanks, and be safe!
Jared, in terms of video quality can you honestly see a difference on a 4k monitor between 8 bit and 10 bit, or is that simple a matter of allowing more latitude in post?
Since the firmware upgrade, I've not had any problems with Nikons Eye-AF but agree the Sonys Autofocus is better. It's quite an admission for you Jared to say that the AF on the SONY was so much better that you were able to get shots with the Sony on your shoot with Bernie, that you might have missed with the Nikon. You did however, previously state that you took one of your greatest photos ever with the Z7 at NASA. The Z7 seemed to nail the eye quite well on that shoot.
Thank you for making this video. This will be my first purchase for a camera and you narrow it down to perfection. I love how you make it so entertaining yet educational. All the best!
Honestly if you’re new to camera’s save your money and get a used DSLR camera body and then invest in good lenses. I got my D5100 for like $50 on eBay and then spent the money on good lenses, it worked great to start with and I’ve shot with it for 6 years and counting, it’s still a camera I take with me everywhere.
Do you have any comments concerning using an F Mount adapter for the Sony? Using my exisiting Nikkor glass, as long as it works well on the Sony body, could be a game changer for me. Otherwise I do enjoy your reviews. Thanks
Hi Jared or Steven or whoever the heck is reading this, love watching your vids in these tough times. Keep it up! Especially love the comparisons, reviews, and photo news fixes.
Interesting comparison! Note that Nikon's compressed raw is LOSSLESS so it's fair to compare the buffer with Nikon compressed vs Sony uncompressed (Sony's compression is LOSSY).
You should lookup Jim kassons tests on these bodies. the Sony A7RIV beats the Nikon Z7 at high ISOs , and in addition the A7RIV has a higher sensitivity at ISO 100...meaning it's closer to ISO 75...it also has a touch higher dynamic range at those lower ISOs ..around 2/3rd of a stop sensitivity advantage over the z7
This is just my opinion, but I hope the back screen on mirrorless cameras is like an appendix on humans: an artifact of evolution. Yes, the newbies coming to mirrorless from smart phones will want to chimp each shot, but the EVF is the way of the future IMHO. Hopefully, the next wave of technology will offer a modular EVF, on multiple screens. On Sony, hopefully using the higher-bandwidth WiFi being tested on the new A9II.
@@stuartschaffner9744 view finder is good , not always that user friendly though if you have a big snoz and 60 year old eyes. if they made evf a tad bigger and set back from the body a bit more with a bigger eye cup , that would be a nice improvement imo.
To the point where you cannot change from eye focus to another point. It is not true. On Z7 you can change the focus wherever you want by pressing the ok button. A square appears with triangles around it; you can bring it to anything or any person you want to fix focus to. And press ok again. If it moves it autofocuses to the target you choose. I don't have Sony. I don't know how it goes.
@@mikldude9376 , good points. I continue to hope that there will soon be a real evolution in EVFs once people get used to them more. EVFs have at least three big advantages over OVFs. First, of course, an EVF gives you a multimedia display not only of the scene you are composing but also the status of the camera controls. Since this fusion of data is controlled by a rather powerful computer, it can be customized by the photographer to fit their workflow. I do a lot of wildlife photography. I set exposure almost always manually, using the histogram display plus my thumb on an adjustment wheel. Many photographers use autoexposure of some kind, so the histogram would simply be a big distraction. One menu setting can add or remove the histogram. Second, the EVF can be as bright as you want and the EVF's housing shields your eye from bright sunlight. That housing also shields that bright glow from your surroundings so your subject is not distracted. Finally, camera designers have not yet begun to use the fact that an EVF doesn't have to be closely tied to the optical axis of the lens. A high-speed data cable is a lot cheaper and more flexible than fiber optics, and high-speed wifi (being tried for other reasons on the A9ii) is even more flexible. I hope that EVFs of the future will be modular and customizable for your particular workflow. As for your 60-year old eyes, my 75-year old eyes are very happy about EVFs. My right eye even has a cataract that is overdue for removal. It likes the fact that you can adjust the brightness. For dim-light photography you can also, on the Sony, toggle the "Setting Effect" menu item to go between a view that shows you what your exposure will be and a view that is always evenly lit. (In the latter, you lose the histogram, sadly.)
i thought FRO already did a video previously about ISO being different between brands and basically not being comparable. So why would Nikon 64ISO beat Sony 100ISO. Not that i care other than being consistent. And maybe that was something i saw elsewhere as all these TH-cam videos start to merge after a while
Thank you for the video, I always appreciate your style and humor.... I m a professional photographer working with Nikon, I mostly shoot yoga retreats and music concerts of spiritual style of music, in many cases sound can be really low during the music performance meaning that if I decide to make a click everybody's attention turns on me because of its sound, he he ! I have seen many killing eyes so I now shoot only when the music goes loud .... plus most of the concerts are happening in low light conditions, and sometimes there can by extatic dancing so I need speed and fast focus, so I guess Sony is better... I m in love with this sony camera, but does it worth all the extra money in my case? Plus I already have nikkor lenses, if I get to choose to work with sony the adaptors will be working correctly with the body ? ... Keep on keeping on !
I get a lot of pain in the pad of my hand at my pinky using my A7R4. The grip is not tall enough so the corner of the camera digs painfully into my hand. I don't have the vertical grip, but that would fix this issue for me.
Strange, I've held mine at several events now, for at least 7 hrs at a time and the grip has been good in my hands. I've heard of people having similar complaints when I had my D750. I guess not every camera will fit everyones hand well
That 6.5 fps on the a7R IV versus its rated 8 fps makes sense if the e-front curtain is turned off (which by the sound alone of the demo, it is). The a7 III slows down by 1-ish fps too. BUT it prevents the weird hard-edged bokeh you'd get above 1/1000th of a second otherwise, so it's a worthwhile tradeoff, I think.
If video is your primary goal then the Z6 is the way to go. All Z-lenses are extremly silent and have minimal focus breathing but keep in mind if you need manual focus, the Z cameras do not support linear focus. However this might get fixed in the next firmware update.
Sony is better at this point. I still don‘t get how Sony as a smartphone producer didn‘t add a touch screen and proper LCD display to their new cameras, but all in all their mirrorless line up is more mature and advanced. I believe Nikon will get there in 2-3 years
After a dismal experience with a repair by Nikon USA, they are BEGGING me to go to Sony - I might rent one and a Nikon adapter to see how my f mount glass works on the Sony body. But seriously Nikon - how smart is it to be this far behind Sony and also slamming the door in 30 year user's faces with rip off, substandard 'repairs?'
Definitely the Sony all the way. But, where can I get my hands on this fantastic iconic NIKON Logo which so prominently shines in your blurred and out of focus background! That I wanna know, Sir! It kept me so distracted. Could you please upload a video with where it just sits blurred in the background shimmering and shining?
Jared: "Nobody wants to buy the Noct" Nikon: "we didn't think this many people would buy the Noct and we ran out of our stock of them" Still love ya Jared!
Yeah...... It was never meant as a high volume sales item. It's a show piece and a great one at that. There are probably 50 professionals out there that will make real use of the lens, another 500 rich camera snobs.... But who cares if it keeps Nikon making cool stuff? The camera world frankly needs the injection of money with more and more people settling for smart phones.
@@minhnguyenle5230 they'll probably put out a 1.4/1.2 native lens soon enough and it'll be marketed at a much much wider audience. Surely with AF, too. They just did this to show off the potential of their Z mount along with their dedication to the system. In the interim, you have fantastic F mount lenses like the Sigma 50 1.4 art.
Unfortunate misconception. Unless you're talking 25,600+ ISO the sensor resolution doesn't really make a difference. There's more noise per pixel on a higher res sensor, but because it has more pixels and is recording more information you end up with about the same amount of total noise in your image.
Mark Shirley keep shooting with D750. I am sure you are more than happy with the output of D750 because it’s an amazing camera. Instead, I would focus on giving time and money to improve my photography by trying out new genres, visiting new places, buying new photo books and watching photography lectures by eminent photographers.
Have never heard anything in any revue of the Z system cameras about their use of flash, ie, flash sync. Also, have hammerhead flashguns fallen from grace ?
Bah CFexpress and XQD. Its still $400 for 256GB CFExpress from a trusted brand. Thats $800 in cards, for 256GB redundant. And with something that shoots 61MP, you may want to shell out for 512GB cards($1200 total).
@ Not to mention I think Sony's claimed 15 stops of DR is for only certain modes/circumstances so even that claim for the A7R IV isn't entirely accurate (at least how many sites and people spin it).
The write protect switch was silly on ordinary sd cards, and it is good Sony omitted them on the tough. But... If on a normal card it breaks of you don't lose any pictures you just can't use it anymore meaning your can't write anymore. So you may lose the ability to capture the moment but you don't lose any already made pictures.
Thanks for the video, though i think the smell test may be a bit biased as both camera's were relatively close to each other, for which the fragrant was overlapping ;)
Guillermo Lopez DxO had a bankruptcy scare a year or so ago, went on a testing hiatus for some time, was bought, then resumed operations. But they’ve been way behind and super slow to catch up since then. It seems like they have an intern working 1 hour a week on this stuff now.
Nikon and Canon will catch up some day. But by the time they get as good as Sony's current eye AF is now, imagine how much more improved Sony's eye AF will be by that point.
@@bjornvesterdahl9238 I don't see why not. Sony are known for eye AF at this point, so they'll always try to be improving their system as the competition catches up. It works great now, but it can still miss occasionally. And yeah, that fine tuning of the system obviously isn't as big of a jump, technically, as Nikon and Canon getting to the point where Sony is now from where they currently are, but for someone who uses eye AF often the difference between a system that hits 90% of the time and one that hits 99% of the time will be felt. So to those people, that fine tuning could feel as big of a technological jump, I think.
Excellent video as usual. Both are great cameras. Id personally go with Sony over Nikon Simply because more native glass options for now. Which is why I did choose the A7R iii over the Z7 when I mad emy purchase right before the A7R iv came out. But like I said. Both are great cameras and you wouldnt be disappointed in either.
Hey Jared how come my a7r3 starts from 50 ISO please do explain. I’ve been following you for a couple years most all your videos you said Sony natively starts from 100 ISO
@@milesonwheels8127 best of luck. Don't be afraid to use ISO 50 when you need it. Just know its limitations. When using my wall powered strobes, I periodically use ISO 50 just because the lights are absurdly bright with limited control (profoto acutes & 2400ws packs). My AD600Bs don't have the issue.
Great Video Jared. I am still using the Nikon D800 and have thought about switching to Sony but I have so much Nikon glass that I am holding out for the Nikon. I have heard rumors of a Nikon Z8/9 that should be even better so not sure whether to get the Z7 or wait on the next Nikon mirrorless.
I know which WAY I GO!!!
Yeah me too, the Sony took my heart 😅
Yes me too, wait for Nikon to bring out the Z8
Apple and orange comparison
both ways?
Obama said it was okay to go both ways lmao 😂
So glad the Nikon won the wind tunnel test. I was literally... holding my breath.
Me too , i always love the scientific way Jarod does these tests , positively BLOWS me away 📸.
I'm experiencing such a whirlwind of emotions about this.
Foreal
I'm surprised that someone who shoots raw likes the rubbery feeling of the Nikon.
Ha.. I get what you did there.
nice!
hahaha..
Tom J underrated comment
I love your review action and style
I bought the Z7 and I love it
Does it's give a photographer what he needs. I'm thinking about getting it as well
Not only did I pause to read the sensor caption, I rewound it first so I could pause and then read it. That's dedication and love ...lots of love.
Side note: Canon said they gave their spot to the S1R. Because, L-MOUNT ALLIANCE!!!!
Today’s high ISO is so good. I remember when high ISO was Ilford’s ASA 1600.
Yes and yet people complain when a camera starts to degrade at 6400! Rediculous
n rocha you know times change and they charge their products so we at least want some improvement
Good news is the rIV now has iso of 50. Which is great! I used this and a few other videos to make my choice. The a7Riv is the best protrait/landscape camera I've ever used. It's the envy of my friends forsure.
Why do i always say the intro with Jared out loud with a crazy sounding voice...... 'Freuuu kneuws photoeeeeuoohhhhh''' *pause.. DOT COM.... Even my girlfriend is laughing when i start a video of you hahaha
Serious question, have you actually tested and compared the high ISO performance of these cameras ?
he've used so many Sony's and Nikon's to tell without testing which will perform better
Thanks Jared, as a Nikon guy you weren't afraid to state the reality here for many. The Sony is just better overall right now. As a longtime Nikon and Canon photojournalist myself (29 years on the Inquirer staff) , I have moved to Sony and love my A7RIV and A9. BTW Allen's is my camera store too, has been since they opened. Cheers
Gerald Williams photojournalist and Inquirer in the same sentence: stopped right there LOL
Hi Jared, what is your real world experience with sensor dust on the Sony. Many reviews I read have big concerns over dust affecting images on the Sony as there is no built in internal cover to protect the sensor when changing lenses I gather.
Often when you discuss cameras for a photo journalist. Would you ever say you opinion would change for landscape? I have a Nikon d750 and love it. Don’t know if you have advise for future camera in Nikon or switch?
Hi! i’m looking into getting the Sony A7R IV. The one thing that is holding me back is the fact that it does not have auto stacking or auto bracketing. would you say that plays a roll in the quality of images? Or could you please tell me more based on this subject. I really want to purchase this camera but before i go all Sony i want to make sure it’s right for me! thank you!
Hi, what is that thing on top of the camera?
great review. I'm giving my A7rIII to my son at college. I was considering replacing it with the Nikon as the menu system on the Sony is frustratingly (is that a word?) complex and I also was a Nikonian for decades before I got the Sony at the recommendation from my cousin who is a pro. But after watching this, the choice seems pretty clear to stay in the Sony world and get the updated version. Thanks for helping me spend $700 more than I planned!
Please make a video Nikon z50 or Sony a6400 which camera should you buy.
Why was the Eos R not compared with these 2? Is it that much far back compared to these 2?(forgive me if my question may sound dumb, I'm still new to photography)
Hello Sony,
Do you have the source code on for your auto focus? wanna integrate it to my CSGO auto-aim for head shots.
Sincerely
Haxer
wait, what? is that even illegal? XD
I'm curious about astrophotography. Does the shiny electronic shutter generate less vibration than a dslr? I've had it make a difference through a telescope
So mr I shout everything in manual so I pick that camera because the AUTO Focus is better.Since you shoot in RAW I figured you would also pick the camera with the best jpeg pictures.
A7R IV, the sniff test was crucial to me.
Techart now makes E to Z adapter, so you have some options there as well
You have lens options.... But no one should expect native preformance AF with the adapter. Just managing expectations.
Does anyone know if Nikon does figure out the eye AF will it be a firmware update or will they have to come out with Z8?
it's going to be a firmware update, eye AF is a machine learning eye detection algorithm, they need to train their neural network better. there is no need to change the hardware.
Do you have any videos about using this Sony camera on Nikon lenses ?
What is your opinion about sensor dust on the Sony? I have seen a review stating this was a deal breaker for them.
Was the preset pack ever not on-sell?
yes.
Yeahatnet no
The Sony a7R IV has an ISO range from 50 through 102400. With 60mp wont the higher ISO be cleaner than with a lower mp at the same range?
I'm a former Nikon user who went Sony about 6 years ago. I have an adapter to use my F-mount lenses and I also have an an adapter to use my M-mount lenses. I have no regrets. I just upgraded from an a7r ii to the a7r iv.
Great comparison, Jared, but my question is...Why not compare the Z7 to the Sony a7Rlll, since their sensors are closer in resolution? Thanks, and be safe!
Jared, in terms of video quality can you honestly see a difference on a 4k monitor between 8 bit and 10 bit, or is that simple a matter of allowing more latitude in post?
How do you find the high ISO (low light) capability? Namely at which ISO do you start to see noise?
what's the thing you put on top of your camera when shotting? thanks
Since the firmware upgrade, I've not had any problems with Nikons Eye-AF but agree the Sonys Autofocus is better. It's quite an admission for you Jared to say that the AF on the SONY was so much better that you were able to get shots with the Sony on your shoot with Bernie, that you might have missed with the Nikon. You did however, previously state that you took one of your greatest photos ever with the Z7 at NASA. The Z7 seemed to nail the eye quite well on that shoot.
Thank you for making this video. This will be my first purchase for a camera and you narrow it down to perfection. I love how you make it so entertaining yet educational. All the best!
" a dirty sensor is a well used sensor "
" i cant believe you paused the video to read this "
4:56
Between the two which would you recommend for new born photographers
Honestly if you’re new to camera’s save your money and get a used DSLR camera body and then invest in good lenses. I got my D5100 for like $50 on eBay and then spent the money on good lenses, it worked great to start with and I’ve shot with it for 6 years and counting, it’s still a camera I take with me everywhere.
Do you think Sony will put out an alpha 7iv? Cuz I'd like the body size..but I won't need that many mp.. whachu' think?
Came here for the sniffing and wind tunnel tests. Was not disappointed.
i am confused plz suggest z6 or a7iii who is best in photography? plz plz..
Nikon Z6
Do you have any comments concerning using an F Mount adapter for the Sony? Using my exisiting Nikkor glass, as long as it works well on the Sony body, could be a game changer for me. Otherwise I do enjoy your reviews. Thanks
Hi Jared. Can you clear something up for me - and this may totally be my ignorance. The ISO range on the 7R4 appears to go down to 50 - am I wrong?
Julian Selman it does. You are correct
Hes talking about native iso, 50 is extended
Base ISO is 100 on the Sony, if you set the ISO lower than that you lose dynamic range.
Hi Jared or Steven or whoever the heck is reading this, love watching your vids in these tough times. Keep it up! Especially love the comparisons, reviews, and photo news fixes.
Interesting comparison! Note that Nikon's compressed raw is LOSSLESS so it's fair to compare the buffer with Nikon compressed vs Sony uncompressed (Sony's compression is LOSSY).
So on the Sony a 9 you have no issue shooting 12bit you do have an issue shooting that on the nikon.
Can you made one video to Nikon Z7ii ??? How It work on Sport Auto Focus?
I say colors > resolution, sure, 61MP sounds amazing but 45MP and better colors are a better deal for me
64 ISO with less megapixels is going to be cleaner *"at higher ISOs"* ?
You should lookup Jim kassons tests on these bodies. the Sony A7RIV beats the Nikon Z7 at high ISOs , and in addition the A7RIV has a higher sensitivity at ISO 100...meaning it's closer to ISO 75...it also has a touch higher dynamic range at those lower ISOs ..around 2/3rd of a stop sensitivity advantage over the z7
Nice comparison. For me, the key distinguisher is Eye AF. Hope Nikon catches on.
This is just my opinion, but I hope the back screen on mirrorless cameras is like an appendix on humans: an artifact of evolution. Yes, the newbies coming to mirrorless from smart phones will want to chimp each shot, but the EVF is the way of the future IMHO. Hopefully, the next wave of technology will offer a modular EVF, on multiple screens. On Sony, hopefully using the higher-bandwidth WiFi being tested on the new A9II.
@@stuartschaffner9744 view finder is good , not always that user friendly though if you have a big snoz and 60 year old eyes.
if they made evf a tad bigger and set back from the body a bit more with a bigger eye cup , that would be a nice improvement imo.
To the point where you cannot change from eye focus to another point. It is not true. On Z7 you can change the focus wherever you want by pressing the ok button. A square appears with triangles around it; you can bring it to anything or any person you want to fix focus to. And press ok again. If it moves it autofocuses to the target you choose. I don't have Sony. I don't know how it goes.
@@Hilmiapak, To press "OK-button" is very fiddly. Nikon NEEDS to change this to be more ergonomic. I own a Z6 by the way.
@@mikldude9376 , good points. I continue to hope that there will soon be a real evolution in EVFs once people get used to them more. EVFs have at least three big advantages over OVFs. First, of course, an EVF gives you a multimedia display not only of the scene you are composing but also the status of the camera controls. Since this fusion of data is controlled by a rather powerful computer, it can be customized by the photographer to fit their workflow. I do a lot of wildlife photography. I set exposure almost always manually, using the histogram display plus my thumb on an adjustment wheel. Many photographers use autoexposure of some kind, so the histogram would simply be a big distraction. One menu setting can add or remove the histogram.
Second, the EVF can be as bright as you want and the EVF's housing shields your eye from bright sunlight. That housing also shields that bright glow from your surroundings so your subject is not distracted.
Finally, camera designers have not yet begun to use the fact that an EVF doesn't have to be closely tied to the optical axis of the lens. A high-speed data cable is a lot cheaper and more flexible than fiber optics, and high-speed wifi (being tried for other reasons on the A9ii) is even more flexible. I hope that EVFs of the future will be modular and customizable for your particular workflow.
As for your 60-year old eyes, my 75-year old eyes are very happy about EVFs. My right eye even has a cataract that is overdue for removal. It likes the fact that you can adjust the brightness. For dim-light photography you can also, on the Sony, toggle the "Setting Effect" menu item to go between a view that shows you what your exposure will be and a view that is always evenly lit. (In the latter, you lose the histogram, sadly.)
A7r4 vs Lumix S1r?
S1r is sadly a contrast detect only camera
24Steevy who cares? It is good enough in video and in stills contrast detect was always great
Hmm, looking at dpreview studio shots, the Z7ii is more detailed and fares better in high ISO than the A7rIV
i thought FRO already did a video previously about ISO being different between brands and basically not being comparable. So why would Nikon 64ISO beat Sony 100ISO. Not that i care other than being consistent. And maybe that was something i saw elsewhere as all these TH-cam videos start to merge after a while
Tony Gorham you’re right. Nikons 100 iso is like 75iso. Canons around 60iso they’re all not very accurate for true 100iso
What's this thing on the camera at 00:26 ? Some kind of focus assist?
It's records the eyepiece so he can show you when he is seeing through the camera.
Thank you for the video, I always appreciate your style and humor.... I m a professional photographer working with Nikon, I mostly shoot yoga retreats and music concerts of spiritual style of music, in many cases sound can be really low during the music performance meaning that if I decide to make a click everybody's attention turns on me because of its sound, he he ! I have seen many killing eyes so I now shoot only when the music goes loud .... plus most of the concerts are happening in low light conditions, and sometimes there can by extatic dancing so I need speed and fast focus, so I guess Sony is better... I m in love with this sony camera, but does it worth all the extra money in my case? Plus I already have nikkor lenses, if I get to choose to work with sony the adaptors will be working correctly with the body ? ... Keep on keeping on !
I get a lot of pain in the pad of my hand at my pinky using my A7R4. The grip is not tall enough so the corner of the camera digs painfully into my hand. I don't have the vertical grip, but that would fix this issue for me.
Strange, I've held mine at several events now, for at least 7 hrs at a time and the grip has been good in my hands. I've heard of people having similar complaints when I had my D750. I guess not every camera will fit everyones hand well
Fro packs been on sale since fro packs been out. Just say that's their normal price. 😂
😂😂😂😂
Everyone that sales lut packs says $50 but know it's olny $30
Which camera would be great for wildlife photography?
Sony......lock on af
Nikon D850 , Nikon D500 & Sony a7R lll
@@jamalmurad3575 a9
Octopus Squid Ink True, the A9 would be the best choice unless you want larger files later for cropping in, or printing larger.
« It is stupid. So Nikon, you lose 15 checkmark for stupidity » 😂😂😂 dear fucking god I exploded
That 6.5 fps on the a7R IV versus its rated 8 fps makes sense if the e-front curtain is turned off (which by the sound alone of the demo, it is). The a7 III slows down by 1-ish fps too.
BUT it prevents the weird hard-edged bokeh you'd get above 1/1000th of a second otherwise, so it's a worthwhile tradeoff, I think.
I have found with Nikon SnapBridge update the raw file can be sent to your tablet or smartphone. That can act as having a second card slot.
Not exactly. That’s way too complicated.
Jared Polin I set mine up and every time I shoot the full raws file go to my iPhone with setting anything up again.
I am not sure but after shooter for not to long. I found them on my phone. I would try it. Either way it’s a way to backup your files while shooting
I have a big doubt, the z7 with its lenses for the z mount, is the focus silent? I record a lot of video and I'm really interested
ya it is
If video is your primary goal then the Z6 is the way to go. All Z-lenses are extremly silent and have minimal focus breathing but keep in mind if you need manual focus, the Z cameras do not support linear focus. However this might get fixed in the next firmware update.
great vid as always..however, one mistake there jared, rubber doesn't feel good.. we prefer skin to skin.
Which one does best in poor weather? Ex: Rain and Cold...
When those new stupid fast SanDisk CF express cards come out, in theory wont will that jump that burst rate up quite a bit?
Marcus Brown No. But it will speed up how long you wait after a burst to continue shooting.
So which system's menu gets the checkmark?
Miklos de Rijk After a while you get used to the menus. Even the Sony mixed up menus.
Yes, I use a A7Riii and A7Rii, but I got a A7 converted to infrared earlier this year and realized the A7 (don’t tell anyone) is a great camera.
Converted to infrared for astro photography? How did you do that?
Sony is better at this point. I still don‘t get how Sony as a smartphone producer didn‘t add a touch screen and proper LCD display to their new cameras, but all in all their mirrorless line up is more mature and advanced. I believe Nikon will get there in 2-3 years
Sony has had touchscreens in their cameras for a few generations now
After a dismal experience with a repair by Nikon USA, they are BEGGING me to go to Sony - I might rent one and a Nikon adapter to see how my f mount glass works on the Sony body. But seriously Nikon - how smart is it to be this far behind Sony and also slamming the door in 30 year user's faces with rip off, substandard 'repairs?'
Unfortunately there isn't any decent Nikon adapter. It's highly recommended to go native glass
It would be nice to add flash and compare too , how come this is missed?
Definitely the Sony all the way. But, where can I get my hands on this fantastic iconic NIKON Logo which so prominently shines in your blurred and out of focus background! That I wanna know, Sir! It kept me so distracted. Could you please upload a video with where it just sits blurred in the background shimmering and shining?
Jared: "Nobody wants to buy the Noct"
Nikon: "we didn't think this many people would buy the Noct and we ran out of our stock of them"
Still love ya Jared!
10 were produced and 12 ordered, great marketing. Man, Nikon really seems to be wanted...
Yeah...... It was never meant as a high volume sales item. It's a show piece and a great one at that. There are probably 50 professionals out there that will make real use of the lens, another 500 rich camera snobs.... But who cares if it keeps Nikon making cool stuff? The camera world frankly needs the injection of money with more and more people settling for smart phones.
I am really interested in knowing how many Noct Nikon have sold
They should have done a 50 1.2 instead of this insane Noct
@@minhnguyenle5230 they'll probably put out a 1.4/1.2 native lens soon enough and it'll be marketed at a much much wider audience. Surely with AF, too. They just did this to show off the potential of their Z mount along with their dedication to the system. In the interim, you have fantastic F mount lenses like the Sigma 50 1.4 art.
I need to keep in mind which mode is being addressed: photo or video.
5:48 I choose Nikon BCS *64* iso with Less MP will give you cleaner image at *high iso*
Unfortunate misconception. Unless you're talking 25,600+ ISO the sensor resolution doesn't really make a difference. There's more noise per pixel on a higher res sensor, but because it has more pixels and is recording more information you end up with about the same amount of total noise in your image.
@@TechnoBabble more MP will produce more noise, how do youean the same amount of noise
Sony are doing so well with their cameras but still I have a aversion to buying one, I really don't know why.
Just try one for yourself. There's no comparison on the market right now honestly...Don't let the prejudice hold you back ;)
Mark Shirley shoot with what you are shooting and wait for whatever brand you are using to release their pro bodies.
@@nightfury4756 Nikon D750.
Mark Shirley keep shooting with D750. I am sure you are more than happy with the output of D750 because it’s an amazing camera. Instead, I would focus on giving time and money to improve my photography by trying out new genres, visiting new places, buying new photo books and watching photography lectures by eminent photographers.
What about the a7r IV vs the a9 since they cost almost the same.
how does jared not know the sony goes to 50iso? it's not even expandable to 50, it's just normal. i have it, and i was shooting in 50 iso today.
Whay you don t put the panasonic in this comparation
Have never heard anything in any revue of the Z system cameras about their use of flash, ie, flash sync. Also, have hammerhead flashguns fallen from grace ?
Where is the Panasonic S1R ?
Bah CFexpress and XQD. Its still $400 for 256GB CFExpress from a trusted brand. Thats $800 in cards, for 256GB redundant. And with something that shoots 61MP, you may want to shell out for 512GB cards($1200 total).
Jared, My Sony A7r4’s lowest iso is 50 not 100! Might be different in the states?
no, you're in Low 1. Lowest Native is 100.
@ Not to mention I think Sony's claimed 15 stops of DR is for only certain modes/circumstances so even that claim for the A7R IV isn't entirely accurate (at least how many sites and people spin it).
The write protect switch was silly on ordinary sd cards, and it is good Sony omitted them on the tough.
But... If on a normal card it breaks of you don't lose any pictures you just can't use it anymore meaning your can't write anymore. So you may lose the ability to capture the moment but you don't lose any already made pictures.
Yes, yes I did pause to read that small description about the sensor.
Fro gets the check mark, of course! Thanks for another great comparative video!
Thanks for the video, though i think the smell test may be a bit biased as both camera's were relatively close to each other, for which the fragrant was overlapping ;)
Why the a7Riv does not apear in dxomark yet?
Guillermo Lopez DxO had a bankruptcy scare a year or so ago, went on a testing hiatus for some time, was bought, then resumed operations. But they’ve been way behind and super slow to catch up since then. It seems like they have an intern working 1 hour a week on this stuff now.
Wes Perry Thanks a lot for the information!
Jared, will you make video on sony a6100?
Surprised you didn't give Sony a double or triple check mark for the eye AF.
Nikon and Canon will catch up some day. But by the time they get as good as Sony's current eye AF is now, imagine how much more improved Sony's eye AF will be by that point.
@@brettnfk, Probably not a linear regression.
@@bjornvesterdahl9238 I don't see why not. Sony are known for eye AF at this point, so they'll always try to be improving their system as the competition catches up. It works great now, but it can still miss occasionally. And yeah, that fine tuning of the system obviously isn't as big of a jump, technically, as Nikon and Canon getting to the point where Sony is now from where they currently are, but for someone who uses eye AF often the difference between a system that hits 90% of the time and one that hits 99% of the time will be felt. So to those people, that fine tuning could feel as big of a technological jump, I think.
I believe its SONY A7R IV is the best Mirrorless camera for 2019 and 2020.
sorry not 2020 anymore, Canon R5 Miles better ..
Z7 is better!
libin thomas canon r5 is not miles better, I have a Sony a7r4
Your videos have gotten so much better over the years🙌🏾
Watching this in 2020, after the Z7ii was released, I see its not impressive but they corrected a lot of the mistakes
IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER THIS WAY!
Jared: hey Steven who paid us more money to make this comparison nikon or sony?
Steven: pentax!!
THE L-MOUNT ALLIANCE!! lol
@@AdrianHodgePhotography haha that echo and shake during L mount alliance, it is always fun to watch
The real comparison is a7r3 vs Z7
Excellent video as usual. Both are great cameras. Id personally go with Sony over Nikon Simply because more native glass options for now. Which is why I did choose the A7R iii over the Z7 when I mad emy purchase right before the A7R iv came out. But like I said. Both are great cameras and you wouldnt be disappointed in either.
Nothing about Nikon killing the market with these awesome lenses. Sharp as Hell!
GMaster lenses are great as well
Shasta M Nothing can compare with the quality of the G Master lenses.
No one is talking about image quality which is got best cleaner image quality?????
Hai sir in a7r iv we can drop iso till 50
That's the extended range
Great video Jared. Thank you for sharing!
Hey Jared how come my a7r3 starts from 50 ISO please do explain. I’ve been following you for a couple years most all your videos you said Sony natively starts from 100 ISO
That may be extended iso, where the exposure is just lowered, but at a decreased dynamic range.
ISO 50---- you have one less stop of range in your highlights. Aka- your image will clip to white sooner when editing.
Thanks guys. I didn’t know I was a Fuji shooter for a while just pick up the Sony as a back up, then ended up being my main work hoses
@@milesonwheels8127 best of luck.
Don't be afraid to use ISO 50 when you need it. Just know its limitations. When using my wall powered strobes, I periodically use ISO 50 just because the lights are absurdly bright with limited control (profoto acutes & 2400ws packs). My AD600Bs don't have the issue.
It starts with 100 iso in silent mode, same with a7iii.
Great Video Jared. I am still using the Nikon D800 and have thought about switching to Sony but I have so much Nikon glass that I am holding out for the Nikon. I have heard rumors of a Nikon Z8/9 that should be even better so not sure whether to get the Z7 or wait on the next Nikon mirrorless.
I see you made the switch to Sony in the end 😁