Secrets of The Motorway - M3

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  • #motorways #infrastructure #m3
    The M3 motorway is around 61 miles in length and runs from London to Southampton. In this episode we'll be taking a trip down south and on our journey we'll discover 300 year old structures, abandoned theme park rides, secret junctions and abandoned slip roads. What a delight.
    Check out @TheServicesKing on Twitter and whilst you are there follow us @JonShenanigans
    Thanks to;
    Roads.org.uk
    Sabre-Roads.org.uk
    Motorwayservices.co.uk
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  • @zaphod4245
    @zaphod4245 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Another thing you missed, between J3 and 4 the carriageways part with a mound in between them. This is actually because of the Bisley Rifle ranges which face towards the motorway, theres a big danger area between the ranges and the motorway, and the motorway is safe, but just in case a stray shot flies beyond the danger area, there is a mound to shield the southbound carriageway to the south west, but this wouldn't cover the northbound side without it being much taller, so there is a second mound between the two carriageways to protect it.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +35

      ahhh... i had no idea, that's a brilliant bit of info.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Somebody got hit for them to build that

    • @redboyjan
      @redboyjan ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GuinessOriginal yeah a road builder getting a pop shot at them lol

    • @1960dave1960
      @1960dave1960 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      An interesting point you have made, I measured the mean distance from the nearest ranges to the M3, it is 4km, if there was a stray bullet that could ricochet from Bisley it may hit someone in Lightwater first….(by the way I come from that area….)…

    • @adamleary866
      @adamleary866 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did not know 24 June 2023 daddy took me to Bracknell m4 a329(M) then m3 j3-j6 did not see mountain

  • @dawhandle
    @dawhandle ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Yes, I liked the old Spitfire Bridge as well. However, I'm the one that designed the 'monstrosity' that replaced it! I spent a lot of time going through various options to try and save the old bridge, but it just wasn't possible to get the N/B carriageway alignment through it.
    I also wanted to build a larger arch bridge to replace it, but the geometry of the existing road and earthworks made it very difficult to do. That's why I came up with something that would span across the motorway and adjacent link road in one go.
    As a bridge engineer (retired) I'm used to the general antipathy towards modern concrete structures, but it does hurt somewhat when my work is described as a monstrosity. How about about a bit on the dull side instead...

    • @longjonwhite
      @longjonwhite ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @dawhandle. You are very modest sir.
      Don’t settle for any less a descriptor than “iconic”.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Well you don't expect to hear from the designer when making such comments ;-) Thanks for commenting and offering some insight.

    • @chriscohlmeyer4735
      @chriscohlmeyer4735 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From a family of architects so I have gotten used to 1) conceptual design, 2) actual planning with changes and adjustments to 3) the actual final plan when reality hits. You went through much the same process of 1) save it (that won't work), 2) similar style (to look right the lorries in the outer lanes would get clipped), 3) practicalities prevailed. I am sure you have some very interesting designs out there where it just fits right.

    • @darreng745
      @darreng745 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is a good bridge for it is designed to do which is carry the Alresford road over Spitfire link and the main M3, next time I pass under it I'll look and think yep the guy who designed that took the time to speak on it

  • @LesW100
    @LesW100 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The reason there are two options for Southampton at J14 is because J13 is too close and it was deemed necessary to separate the traffic before J13 for safety so people weren't jumping across lanes at the last minute. As a result, traffic joining from Eastleigh at J13 going south, could only go westbound on the M27 (It was decided if they wanted to go east they could join the M27 at the other side of Eastleigh). Putting in a slip road up to the A33 allowed them to go into Southampton as well, and as a result there is a Southampton option on both slip roads (eastbound and westbound)

    • @DomEvans
      @DomEvans ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People still change their minds last minute very dangerously. I'm glad the Eastleigh traffic doesn't jump across 2 lanes too 👍😁

    • @LesW100
      @LesW100 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DomEvans I went to the public exhibition when it was still at the planning stage and they were very concerned about the two junctions being so close that traffic would conflict, so their solution was to split the motorway back before j13 which is what we have now. If the Eastleigh traffic had to jump across three lanes at the same time as all the westbound traffic was trying to get into the two left lanes I am certain there would be major accidents there almost every day. At least their solution seems to work, although giving the strange set up where you get a slip road to the A33 from both splits of the motorway. I guess the designers actually did know what they were doing...

    • @chinnyvision
      @chinnyvision ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DomEvans Yep, you really need to watch out for this as you approach.

  • @Pixel_Runner
    @Pixel_Runner ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When you reach the end of the motorway, you actually go left for Bournemouth and right for Portsmouth (which is a bit counter-intuitive). After the split, they then cross each other and go in the opposing direction.

  • @ChrisGuarraia
    @ChrisGuarraia ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I don’t live in England and haven’t even visited (yet), but I am completely fascinated by Secrets of the Motorway. I’m experiencing English motorways (and the landscape and hidden gems) vicariously through these videos.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thrilled to have you.. in which wonderful corner of the earth are you located?

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch the film Locke. Evokes the atmosphere of nighttime U.K. motorway driving wonderfully.

  • @thomascharnock
    @thomascharnock ปีที่แล้ว +62

    That bridge you're stood on at the end of the video...I run over that most days when I'm out for a jog. Now it is immortalised by Auto Shenanigans! 😂 Also a bit gutted I didn't happen to be running there when you were filming so I could accost you like a random nutter/fan

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You wouldn't be the first :D Thanks for watching mate!

    • @the90sfattyfromtakethat
      @the90sfattyfromtakethat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I saw someone running in the distance

    • @paulknight5018
      @paulknight5018 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the90sfattyfromtakethat probably a thief I'm allowed to say that I live in Southampton lol 🤣

  • @BMWMike
    @BMWMike ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The wasp incident is the best piece of action ever captured on video.

  • @SortOfPurple
    @SortOfPurple ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I don’t know why I watch these, I don’t even drive a car. Says something about how entertaining this series is. I smiled when the ridge racer 4 intro music started.

    • @ecotix
      @ecotix ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought the same, but it's actually little insights into our culture and history for little "non-important" sites and I love that

  • @mtickner
    @mtickner ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Geographically yes, left to Portsmouth and Right to Bournemouth, but you need to be in the left lanes to go right and the right lanes to go left. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @techgeekout
      @techgeekout ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Does my head in because I'm quite geographically switched on, and have to manually remind myself that the lanes go in the opposite direction to their destination ffs

    • @jimherbert007
      @jimherbert007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This, the number of people I’ve seen nearly crash over the years 😳

    • @JasonGardnerUK
      @JasonGardnerUK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I drive this often, and I'm always saying my best Mike Reid voice "Run around nah", as myopic drivers make their final decisions,

    • @paulsengupta971
      @paulsengupta971 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@techgeekout Like the M40 joining the M42.

    • @RobsHampshirePubWalks
      @RobsHampshirePubWalks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We locals call it Fukawi junction because of the confused veering and abrupt Lane changes (Think about it 😁)

  • @AurumUsagi
    @AurumUsagi ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Trivia: Fleet Services was once one of only two motorway service stations in the UK where two rival burger chains and KFC co-existed. This was because of Welcome Break's then-parent company Trusthouse Forte wanting to counter Pavilion's introduction of Burger King by introducing McDonald's. When Forte was taken over by Granada (nowadays Moto), after taking over Pavilion before, they switched to Burger King for expansion, but kept the McDonald's in Fleet and added Burger King. When Welcome Break was sold off following an investigation into Granada's stranglehold on motorway services, KFC was added. Sadly, both McDonald's and Burger King shut down 2 years ago, with the only locations left being Winchester (Moto) and (where it transitions into the M27) at Rownhams (RoadChef), which are Burger King and McDonald's locations, respectively.

  • @petetrundell5454
    @petetrundell5454 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I worked for and on the design of two of the M3 construction contracts. The two lane section north of Winchester was regarded as inadequate for the volume of traffic when constructed, let alone now. When the then Department of Transport put the scheme out to tender the requirement was for three lanes but every contractor said it was impossible within the projected cost so the Department, rather than spend the extra, ordered 2 lanes.
    The divided slip roads at Hockley are because of the topography. The hillside and adjacent river Itchen prevent a single conventional intersection.
    That contract is etched in history as the Twyford Down road scheme which attracted a great deal of anti-road protestors and press coverage. What is rarely told is that the road that preceeded it was an environmental disaster that had to be rectified. It was removed and covered with local earth and indigenous seedlings (rather than generic specimens) that had been cultivated at Sparsholt College to perfectly disguise the route. This had never been done before.

    • @David-ci1vn
      @David-ci1vn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wasn't it THREE SSSIs that got covered in concrete, if they can do that to the highest level of environmentally sensetive site, they'll do it anywhere.

    • @petetrundell5454
      @petetrundell5454 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@David-ci1vn Yes, there was environmental damage, that has been established many times over. My point was that there was also significant environmental recovery of an area that was badly scarred and polluted and that fact is never put across when the story of Twyford Down is told.

    • @RobsHampshirePubWalks
      @RobsHampshirePubWalks ปีที่แล้ว

      The environmental damage to the world renowned River Itchen from the old Winchester by pass was awful but its a shame more money was not spent to provide a tunnel under Twyford Down.

  • @leefpm
    @leefpm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Its CHOBHAM lane ,not Cobham, and its Chobham Armour that was developed at MVEE [its pronounced Mevee ] the main site has its own bridge over the M3 to access the track. you could do a lot on the test track like you did on the TRL site at Crowthorne. Bovington Tank Museum has a lot of photos and videos of MVEE[ and other the names it was known as FVRDE/RARDE/DERA/DRA/DSTL/QinetiQ in their archives .

  • @priscillaroberts7945
    @priscillaroberts7945 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My son was working at fleet services and once when left to cope on his own it got a bit busy so he turned up the extractor over the burger grill to get rid of the smoke and the accumulation of fat up there caught fire. The whole place burnt down. He was about 17 . They tried to get him to say the filters were regularly cleaned and changed but he wouldn't. He was" let go" as they say.

    • @chinnyvision
      @chinnyvision ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He needs an award for services to grim motorway services redevelopment. It was awful in there. Much better now!

    • @captaindun
      @captaindun ปีที่แล้ว

      And they rebuilt it… of wood!!

    • @priscillaroberts7945
      @priscillaroberts7945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@captaindun and plastic. I wonder if anybody misses Wendys kitchen. He did get to see a lot of media stars. Eastender types and suchlike.

  • @darreng745
    @darreng745 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The reason for the double slip road at Junction 14 is that traffic from Eastleigh at Junction 13 cannot access the main body of the carriageway heading up the hill towards M27 East which is the exit slip road for Southampton for the main carriageway, so you head for M27 West and take the slip road off to rejoin that sliproad before the roundabout at the start on Basset Avenue.

  • @gareth204
    @gareth204 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chertsey resident here, who lives on St Ann’s Hill. The Armour you mention is Chobham, not Cobham. Chobham is the village next to Lyne and Longcross where the tank factory once stood intersected by the M3. Cobham is a village about 13 miles to the East next to the A3/M25 junction. Many mix them up, but they are two very separate Surrey villages.

  • @grahamclifton1483
    @grahamclifton1483 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In 1975, during the M3 Sunbury construction, I nearly drove off the unfinished flyover one night, losing my way in the temporary road alignments…
    Love this channel…

  • @NigelJones
    @NigelJones ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh, memories of hockey traffic lights. I remember before that section was opened (lived in Chandler's Ford for years, though moved away in 2020)

  • @tmb8807
    @tmb8807 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First time I've heard of a viaduct built to link a railway with a wasp!

  • @jamessawyer479
    @jamessawyer479 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I grew up in Lightwater in the 80s, so I knew all the woods around the M3 J3 Bagshot.
    The machine used to lay the tarmac (through Bagshot section, at least) was imported specially from the Soviet Union.
    I was told numerous times that during construction, a Scammell Tipper broke down under the J3 Bagshot bridge just before the tarmac laying machine came through. Once moving, the Tarmac machine could not be stopped economically. There was no time to get the tipper going again so they buried it in the ground under the carriageway.
    At the Longcross site near J3 there is also a tunnel linking the two sides as well as the bridge. This is because they were testing vehicles which were too heavy for a bridge. Rumour has it the tunnel is very tall inside because they were testing mobile icbm vehicles there in the 60s and 70s.
    Many thanks for a cool and fascinating vid.
    Wasps. Classic!!!

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      The tunnel sounds interesting indeed, i can't find any evidence of it's where abouts though. Perhaps removed/filled in in later years?

  • @marcwaller3657
    @marcwaller3657 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The abandoned Thorpe park train still gets used every year as part of their fright night events. It doesn't move but it's part of an interactive experience where some (student) actors act out various interactive ghost stories involving a train crash. The train is usually partly illuminated and some "spooky" smoke/mist is added.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I didnt know that. I'd get a ticket but.. kids.. nope.

  • @uries15
    @uries15 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fleet Services. Where the coach stopped so we could chuck up on the way to and from school trips to London.

  • @machinist5828
    @machinist5828 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I share your non love for wasps.
    I spent 22 wonderful months in East Anglia with the USAF at RAF Bentwaters. I absolutely loved all the narrow back roads and lanes.
    I was not so thrilled with the motorways though. You just missed too much.
    Perhaps some day I can return and explore some more.
    Until then.......
    Cheers
    Terry from South Carolina USA

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They're awful things. Thanks for watching mate... You can't beat an English back road for fun! I hope you enjoyed your stay with Bentwaters.

    • @machinist5828
      @machinist5828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AutoShenanigans I was there to the end. Last person in maintenance to leave. Saddest day in my life other than my dad dying. I had nightmares for years afterwards.
      Yes I totally enjoyed my stay.
      Cheers
      Terry

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@machinist5828 if you enjoyed it that much you really should pay us a visit

    • @machinist5828
      @machinist5828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GuinessOriginal if I could I would. Take the train right to Woodbridge.
      However I live in South Carolina USA.
      Cheers
      Terry

  • @grahamclifton1483
    @grahamclifton1483 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In the 1980s, when we all had CB radios, there was a nice guy with a base station near the Spitfire Bridge, all the drivers would call him up and he would relay road traffic information…
    Loving your work!

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      CB is a little before my time but I love the idea of being able to get traffic info from a guy in a shed.

    • @grahamclifton1483
      @grahamclifton1483 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@AutoShenanigans Picture yourself, 1983, leaving Preston on M6, 1800h, 200 miles to home, snow coming in, key the mic, say "One Nine, One Nine, any driver give me a Ten Thirteen (road report) on the Mike Six south to Birmingham? Gunmetal One standing by."
      Back comes a Devon accent, over a loud lorry engine, "Gunmetal One, this is Happy Wanderer. You're clear south to Birmingham."
      "Thanks Happy Wanderer, nothing heard north of Preston, safe journey.."
      "Thanks Gunmetal One ... becomes distant...Ten ten, Happy Wanderer standing by.."

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@grahamclifton1483 the internet before the internet

    • @philiptownsend4026
      @philiptownsend4026 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@grahamclifton1483 Those were the days ;-))

  • @TheChipmunk2008
    @TheChipmunk2008 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You need to do the northward journey from the M27 (eastern end) thru junctions 13, 12,. and 11, for the utter horror that it is... and the utter difference to the southbound journey

  • @colindavis1466
    @colindavis1466 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You never mentioned the dreaded Hockley lights. Zooming down the M3 and you were confronted by a horrific set of traffic lights. Easily added an hour to my commute

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      A seemless journey for us but we got lucky I suspect.

    • @keithposter5543
      @keithposter5543 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AutoShenanigans Probably because it's not 1992 😉

  • @nickbannister775
    @nickbannister775 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Chobham Armour not Cobham, Plus they built the M3 right through our school cross country course at Bagshot, myself and mates also got caught jaywalking when the M3 first opened. Fun was had watching the Army drive vehicles to destruction on Bagshot Heath.

  • @davidfalconer8913
    @davidfalconer8913 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a student holiday job , I helped build the M3 ( during 1972 ) ..... ( Lightwater to Sunbury section ) working for a subsidery of Bovis , called [ Larry Webb ] this was great fun and VERY VERY well paid ! ...The mining trucks took over 300 gallons of red diesel per day and had their engine oil changed every 3 DAYS ! ... their gearbox / back axle's oil changed every 14 days ! .. ( normal motorists take note ! ! .... Ha - Ha .........

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      I tend to do engine oil every 3 months.. but every 3 days!!?

  • @RampageObidos
    @RampageObidos ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You got a like from me for the wasp incident.

  • @B1UK
    @B1UK 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That road used to join onto the Staines duel carriageway. That road with the loop at the end was the former main road to Staines pre M3 and M25. The bridge you go under was originally a road that joined to the carriageway. Can be seen on ordnance surveys from before 1960.

  • @Robbo1966
    @Robbo1966 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video, but did you know the Hockley interchange (Winchester) was famous for the Hockley traffic lights, it was said that you could drive all the way from Scotland and encounter traffic lights for the first time at the Hockley lights. It was during the 1990s, that the M3 was extended south from Basingstoke, cutting through the Twyford Down with much public protest, thus making the Hockley lights and the old A33 around St Catherines Hill redundant. Thanks

    • @fredyellowsnow7492
      @fredyellowsnow7492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is Swampy still underground, chained to a tree root?

    • @paulqueripel3493
      @paulqueripel3493 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember the traffic jams there. Every time we went to visit my relatives in Southampton, had to queue at the end of the M3.

  • @elelegidosf9707
    @elelegidosf9707 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is a fantastically geeky channel for road geeks! Love it!
    Don't worry about coming across as a flailing-armed Nancy boy regarding the wasps 😃 - I can understand this as I am allergic to them. If I get stung, the affected body part blows up like a balloon. Anyway, keep up the good work.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wacky waving arm flailing nancy boy. It is what it is :D

  • @jillp1840
    @jillp1840 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lived here 30 years. Never heard Minley pronounced as Mine-ly! I remember the hoo-hah about the Twyford Down cutting around Winchester, but boy has it saved time getting down to the coast!

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      I ignored the Twyford thing simply as I wouldn't be able to pronounce it correctly.

  • @Jason-io5bu
    @Jason-io5bu ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I do like you dron film I put that rallyway sign post up about 9 years ago reversed lorry back and lift up with PM crain that was a good Friday work

  • @justinadcock4536
    @justinadcock4536 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was expecting you to mention the protests at Twyford Down cutting protest. Might be an interesting series, documenting major protests during construction of motorways.

  • @IndigoJo
    @IndigoJo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You missed out the old slip road under the M3 just south of the A303 fork. That took traffic from the A33 from Basingstoke under the M3 to stay on the A33. Now, it's Popham Court Lane, an access to a side road into Popham village. It's a good two-lane road with lane markings and cat's eyes as far as where the old slip road ends, then becomes a fairly average one-and-a-half-lane country road, then just after a property access on the right, becomes a single-track road.

  • @callumpetch7903
    @callumpetch7903 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Only bit you missed was the M3 Twyford Down Protests before they re routed the M3 At Winchester and the park and ride that's now built on the old M3.

  • @drunkinclam100
    @drunkinclam100 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It’s Chobham armour not Cobham armour Cobham is a town about 5 miles CW round the M25

  • @anthonylloyd6094
    @anthonylloyd6094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    "No wasps were harmed during the making of this video"

  • @BeansOnToast_YT
    @BeansOnToast_YT ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The way you handled that wasp, you're one of the bravest TH-camrs ever, hope you're able to carry on making more vids and put that incident behind you 😂

  • @Assimilator1
    @Assimilator1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't believe Thorpe Park just abandoned those rides!
    I finally know what those dead end slips roads between J6-7 were meant for!
    Re that old Spitfire bridge, 1 concrete monstrosity swapped for another, no real loss there!😂 (ok the old concrete one did have some style I suppose).
    Great wasp moment! 🤣

  • @TravellingTechie
    @TravellingTechie ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It should be noted between J10 and J11 was a landmark protest in the building of the cutting through Twyford down. It cut through a SSI, ancient monuments and landscape, replacing the notorious Hockley traffic lights and the old narrow road (I remember it well as I was on it most weekends seeing grandparents in Southampton!). I seem to recall engineers wanted to build a tunnel to reduce environmental impact but were overruled due to the cost. The protests caught national attention and sparked a movement for more direct action (as has been seen in more recent times with the protest of the building of HS2) against large infrastructure projects.
    Oh and I remember the old log flume riders dropping down as we came up the M3 towards Sunbury of an evening in the summer time!

    • @adriankmarsden
      @adriankmarsden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He could have also gone down the old road which is still mostly there. Being the cycle route into Winchester.

    • @LucaZone
      @LucaZone ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I too remember well the queues to pass through Hockley traffic lights heading south to grandparents on summer weekends!

    • @davidlockwood9192
      @davidlockwood9192 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LucaZone yes remember that well, used to live in Poole when younger and had cousins who lived first in Harrow and then Folkestone and during the 80's and early 90's remember those traffic lights and routing past the viaduct

  • @jamesclark380
    @jamesclark380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loving the Ridge Racer Type 4 theme at the end! Takes me right back to the good old days :D

  • @Mark-BS-YT-name
    @Mark-BS-YT-name ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I regularly go up St Anne's hill & down Monk's walk (Thorpe Park train). Now famous and deserves a geo location to forever immortalise this video. 👍🏻

  • @JackosJingles
    @JackosJingles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Back in the mid 1990s I lived in Southampton and worked in Winchester so I used to drive up and down there almost every day. The only car we had at the time was my Ex's Fiat Cinquecento. I used to have to join the Motorway at the "Southampton international airport" junction which is on an incline always entertaining to try and get to motorway speed whilst joining (spoiler it used to max out at under 60mph). I seem to remember there were always lots of accidents at junction 3.

  • @automotivel3501
    @automotivel3501 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My son went to Southampton Uni. (and now lives in Southampton) so we travel the M3 a lot, it seems to be permanently a 50MPH motorway. The Smart section (I join from M25 J13) was first issue, now it is Southampton end. Nice to know some of M3 history love John's videos. Perhaps he could do M11 - I worked on that (well i worked on Cranes that broke down building it) Motorway.

    • @marksaxby607
      @marksaxby607 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right about the huge 50MPH section, I did see a man leaning on a shovel once, though... I suspect it's just a revenue generation exercise.

    • @iangame7234
      @iangame7234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to use the M3 but with that 50 limit for miles and miles it easier and less busy to go via the A3 north of Portsmouth. Virtually a motorway and avoid the traffic bottleneck around Winchester.

  • @rogerthomas368
    @rogerthomas368 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The disused road at J13 with Leigh Road comes from the older A33 junction at that location. The A33 at this point was installed as the Chandlers Ford Bypass, but was in many ways just the M3 'in-waiting'. When upgraded to the M3 the slips on the eastern side had to be realigned. The result is the current gated 'short' slip that still joins the southbound carriageway at a near-right angle and the isolated part of the road that was part of the southbound off-ramp.

  • @jimmycburfield5997
    @jimmycburfield5997 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating, there’s something evocative about an abandoned theme park.

  • @Aidanb94
    @Aidanb94 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The duplicated slip roads at southbound junction 14 to access Southampton on the A33 are needed for traffic joining from junction 13 at Eastleigh.
    I always wondered this when I lived in Southampton!

  • @johncamp2567
    @johncamp2567 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    John: Your videos are fun, quirky, and informative! Always entertaining….with wasps or without. 👍

  • @newforestpixie5297
    @newforestpixie5297 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As you go ‘ through’ Basingstoke or before the A303 headed SW are Slip Rds either side of a road bridge. You may well get to this in a bit ! Only last month I tried to figure out what had happened to Spitfire Bridge when Ally mentioned how as kids coming from Watford to visit relatives on the coast this bridge was a huge landmark. I’ve studied GE & maps trying to work out where the viaduct and traffic lights were in relation to the old dual carriageway I have at least managed to work out how the old A33 route is now a car park amongst industry .This is great - Thanks to you and everyones’ efforts in bringing it to us all . 👍😁 from near the sea

    • @doctornick666
      @doctornick666 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's worth visiting for a walk if you're nearby. The old railway route still has bits if old infrastructure, and you can tell the area near the viaduct used to be a road. Five bridges road is also interesting to walk on as it's being slowly reclaimed by nature but you can still see cats eyes, road paint and bollards from when it was open to traffic

  • @Jayneswoolandbuttons
    @Jayneswoolandbuttons ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We lived near the M3 before it was built, my Dad and I used to walk along the foundations of the new road.

  • @thetelephoneprankster4254
    @thetelephoneprankster4254 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Part of me really wants to cycle along that stretch now. John you should join me

  • @cyberleaderandy1
    @cyberleaderandy1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The abandoned bit if Thorpe park is similar to parts of Alton Towers where bits of old rides lye in the bushes unloved.

  • @surfblue63
    @surfblue63 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The slip road at J13 was originally a slip road off the A33 onto the B3037 (now the A335). When the M3 was extended they used parts of the A33 route, hence why the A33 is no longer a continuous road.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good info, nice one

    • @surfblue63
      @surfblue63 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AutoShenanigans Did you see my comment re Blackbushe?

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did, I've wanted to visit blackbushe for a while now.

  • @peter5486
    @peter5486 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unexpected rather large section on Thorpe Park very much satisfying my main interests whilst watching this. Nice!

  • @RobsHampshirePubWalks
    @RobsHampshirePubWalks ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. The abandoned sections of slip Rd at Eastleigh's J13 are in fact the old slip roads for the A33 Chandlers Ford by pass..

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice one, thanks for watching and confirming

  • @j.b.w.
    @j.b.w. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's amazing that this channel had 1,000 subscribers not long ago but some of the videos you were making at the time were of a much higher standard than that. It's great the channel is becoming popular, the videos are great entertainment.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah Im not sure how it all took off but it has a bit! Thanks for watching

  • @ap9970
    @ap9970 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking forward to the A3(M) all 90 seconds of it

  • @cartographer29
    @cartographer29 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The extra slip road at Junction 14 is only there for traffic entering the M3 from Leigh Road.

  • @MichaelYatKitChung
    @MichaelYatKitChung ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So glad you mentioned the Scott Mills bridge!

  • @TwoWholeWorms
    @TwoWholeWorms ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still can't believe they permanently closed Logger's Leap, was one of my favourite rides at the park. :(

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This answers a few things I'd often wondered about; the ghost junction and the ghost viaduct. And why the section over the Hampshire Downs is only two lane

  • @jlcgaming8178
    @jlcgaming8178 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im a sucker for abandoned theme parks stuff!

  • @W92Baj
    @W92Baj ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don't want to be that guy but it's CHobham, not Cobham, which is further down the road. The research centre, where my mother worked in the 1960s, is surrounded by Chobham Common.
    Also, those Thorpe Park trains! TP used to be vast with a petting zoo on the other side of the quarry lakes with a long rail loop taking you there and back. In the summer in the early 80s I'd get dropped off outside the gate with some friends and spend the day there.

  • @TheCaptScarlett
    @TheCaptScarlett ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:03 The underpass is a flood relief culvert should the Thames flood.
    1:40 1979 was the year we went on our annual schoold day out to the new Thorpe Park - it had a petting zoo, a traditional adventure playground and waterskiing - it was a boring day out
    9:27 "Hardcore, You know the score" th-cam.com/video/fQO5yeVJdaI/w-d-xo.html

  • @kirkmooneyham
    @kirkmooneyham ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I haven't lived in England in a long time, but I spotted something in this video I remembered: an Eddie Stobart lorry. Probably seems rather mundane to most, but I was surprised I remembered that.

  • @andrewofford1533
    @andrewofford1533 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Bridges at Junction 2, the ones for the M25, were built at the sametime of the M3. These stood empty, with nothing connected to them, until the M25 work was started. Also, Windmill Road in Sunbury, was redesigned to except the New Bridge crossing the M3, as the orginal Bridge, only went over the Railway line at Upper Hailford Station. The Clock at Sunbury, was moved from its Original location, as the Flyover cut across it, this was moved to near the Supermarket, Key Markets, before it was moved back to its new location, it is located now.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't know that, great info mate.

    • @andrewofford1533
      @andrewofford1533 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AutoShenanigans As a Side Note, just up the road from the M3, not far, from where you were siting, at the beginning of the Video, Sir Tom Jones lived, Springfield Grove, during the 60's.

  • @danimayb
    @danimayb ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Earlier this year Thorpe Park submitted planning permission to build a new roller coaster, All of the old town area containing Loggers Leap will be demolished to make way.. If granted that is? Who knows if or how long.. But England's councils are decisive well oiled well run organisations so all will be good 😆

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was expecting work to have started when we showed up but it looks like they're still talking it through with those decisive councils.

  • @milesg5556
    @milesg5556 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant videos. I'm always interested in old roads and abandoned places etc. I remember well the construction of the M3 past Winchester through Twyford Down and the uproar it caused

    • @ianpegge9967
      @ianpegge9967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only to the tree hugging brigade. Most people were in favour at the time

    • @priscillaroberts7945
      @priscillaroberts7945 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianpegge9967 i wasn't, a flyover at the juction would have done fine at less expense and uproar.

    • @petetrundell5454
      @petetrundell5454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@priscillaroberts7945 that was impossible to construct within the constraints of the sensitive local environment. Access to maintain traffic flow and separate construction vehicles would have tripled the width of construction. See my separate comments as to the successful efforts to return the site of the old road to natural landscape that is now enjoyed by thousands.

  • @philtucker1224
    @philtucker1224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! 👍

  • @GeoffSlack
    @GeoffSlack ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From 4:20 you discuss the bridge over Minley road (locally pronounced Min-ley), well a little further West just past Fleet Services the A323 passes under the M3 and is also designed as a dual carriageway, again only using one side.

  • @hippyvanmug
    @hippyvanmug ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't think the Thorpe park rides are totally abandoned though as I'm pretty sure the train was integrated as a prop into one of Thorpe Parks Fright Night horror mazes, and so was the old queue building from loggers leap.

  • @BMordecai
    @BMordecai ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:00 🤣 I can't stand wasps either

  • @chrisg1234fly
    @chrisg1234fly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool vid, thx.

  • @legobatman8353
    @legobatman8353 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoyed this and glad I stumbled across this.
    I drive this bastard piece of road nearly everyday and never knew about some of these hidden gems.

  • @defender1006
    @defender1006 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, I love these 'secrets' or possibly 'forgotten facts?'. I love the now unused viaduct at Winchester, a long held ambition is to ride over it. Please keep these/this series coming, just loving the content, footage and presentation etc!

  • @MKHNitro
    @MKHNitro ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The 'Fuckin Wasp' dance is definitely going to go viral

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gotta laugh about such things :D I do genuinely fear wasps though.

  • @matthewwilliams4569
    @matthewwilliams4569 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking forward to the massive motorway that is the M4. Loads to cover there I reckon. Loving this series thus far!

    • @paulknight5018
      @paulknight5018 ปีที่แล้ว

      That the M5 and M6 must be two or three parts each

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes... M4 and M6 are probably 2 episodes a piece!

  • @oliverstemp9132
    @oliverstemp9132 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like the drone footage here. Good usage

  • @damedavidfrith55
    @damedavidfrith55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting thanks 😊

  • @its_matt_long
    @its_matt_long ปีที่แล้ว +3

    John, these juse keep getting better! In a final episode, please do one dedicated to the unknown facts that you've since solved thanks to the help of your viewers!

  • @chrisbeaven6521
    @chrisbeaven6521 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Maybe try doing a video on the A303 where it starts off as what was originally deemed as 1 mile stretch of motorway class road heading west from junction 8 of the M3 (probably was going to be called the M30 in its day) and the farcical proposals over several decades dating back to the 1950's to upgrade this 117 mile route to Exeter into an unbroken dual carriageway. The debacle over the Stonehenge lack of improvement and still no bypass around Winterbourne Stoke is farcical in itself. Let's not forget that the rest of the route West of this is a travesty in the making with the intermittent stretches of dual and single carriageway through Wiltshire and new roundabouts built on improved dualled sections in Somerset in the 1980's and 1990's such as the Cartgate junction near Yeovil. The Wincanton bypass was only extended past Sparkford in the late 1980's and not taken on another 3 miles to Ilchester bypass dual carriageway where this is finally being built opening in 2024 but no work on the A37 Podimore roundabout which has been designed for a fly over. Not to mention the extra wide single carriageway bypass around Ilminster (just 5 feet short of being wide enough for a dual carriageway so all the over-bridges have got to be demolished if this is widened). They are still undecided how to link this to the M5 whether to take it to Taunton or Exeter (Blackdown Hills, a triple SSSI is on the way to link up with the A30 Honiton to Exeter dual carriageway). Funny how the A30 West of Exeter will soon have over 100 miles of unbroken dual carriageway almost down to Penzance.

    • @hydorah
      @hydorah ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That Solstice park thing is truly horrific. I live in Exeter and have used the A303 extensively I think its worst feature is the constant variety of speed limits. Second worst is all the single carriageway sections. Frustrating stuff. Always nice to see Stonehenge though 🙂

  • @AFCManUk
    @AFCManUk ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "....and it provided a link between the Didcot, Newbury and Southampton Railway with the.... FUCKING WASP!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You make these videos about relatively innocuous and usually dull subjects really entertaining and interesting. They're really enjoyable to watch.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      Pleased to hear!! Thanks for watching

    • @pauldonatantonio7785
      @pauldonatantonio7785 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AutoShenanigans In truth, it's probably only nerds like us that find this sort of thing REALLY entertaining and interesting.

  • @phillipbritten7687
    @phillipbritten7687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant vid john

  • @swededude1992
    @swededude1992 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wasps hurts to get stung by. The best way to save your self from being stung is to stay calm when a wasp is around you. The more you swing your body around the scarier you are to the wasp and the more the the wasp want to sting you. Wasps workes this way: As long as you are calm, the wasp will be calm. If your'e bissy being silly, the wasp will be scared and sting you.

  • @jonsnell4751
    @jonsnell4751 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting.

  • @WardyLion
    @WardyLion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Footage of abandoned theme park rides with a piano rendition of “Be Prepared” from The Lion King?
    Awesome!

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it is :D

    • @WardyLion
      @WardyLion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AutoShenanigans It's that kinda awesome that keeps me coming back for more!

    • @SgtSlapmaster
      @SgtSlapmaster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I enjoyed this too

  • @moominpapa1980
    @moominpapa1980 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It’s Chobham not Cobham, it’s a very confusing area.

  • @andyvits1
    @andyvits1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video John 👍🏻👌🏻

  • @samuelwojciak8037
    @samuelwojciak8037 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm loving this channel, I'm a delivery driver and I travel M27 and M3 on a daily basis tho never seen the Eastleigh interchange abandoned sliproads :O will have a look next time :D

    • @KevinMilnerFarmingPhotography
      @KevinMilnerFarmingPhotography ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can not miss the M3 / M27 slip road if your coming off its on your right and going on your see it very well too

    • @samuelwojciak8037
      @samuelwojciak8037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KevinMilnerFarmingPhotography I agree tho read my comment once again xD

  • @ladiorange
    @ladiorange ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video

  • @richsmart321
    @richsmart321 ปีที่แล้ว

    loving the abandoned rides - VERY VERY cool

  • @minibus9
    @minibus9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome video

  • @cigmorfil4101
    @cigmorfil4101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Canada Creek railway used to run to Thorpe [park] Farm where there was a "proper" cafeteria; there were also boats across the lake to the farm (at the main park near models of world landmarks IIRC).
    When the farm closed in 2007 the railway was cut short, so I'm guessing it was effectively a ride to get you there.

    • @AutoShenanigans
      @AutoShenanigans  ปีที่แล้ว

      I was not aware of that ! I only remember going on it as a child around the park area.

  • @longjonwhite
    @longjonwhite ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just nodding off , then the wasp attack !
    Literally laughed out loud mate, great decision to leave it in.

  • @370DatsunZed
    @370DatsunZed ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The abandoned Thorpe park stuff was awesome!!! Loving your work!!!

  • @lycian123
    @lycian123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember years ago coming up to Eastleigh and traffic lights. The M3 used to end in traffic lights. It was then extended and they were no longer needed. It was a bit of a maze of slip roads back then..

  • @garycollard1981
    @garycollard1981 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn't know about the Hockley viaduct before watching this video. A few days later went to visit it while walking from Winchester down to Eastleigh. I also checked out 3 other railway bridges further up the line, they were very overgrown though.

    • @jammyjewell
      @jammyjewell ปีที่แล้ว

      Dod you see the café on the old line by the bridge near Garnier Road?

    • @garycollard1981
      @garycollard1981 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jammyjewell I think I do remember passing a cafe by a bridge. Sure I'll be walking that way again some time, will have to check it out.

  • @christopherthompson2078
    @christopherthompson2078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Once again excellent .really enjoyed that info x