I have to do some brush work soon. I will learn from your lesson and be cautious. That was a close call for your hydraulics. Even with experience, stuff happens. Thanks for sharing.
Well, I'll be out clearing fallen limbs in about 1 week after the last of the remaining snow melts. This video reminds me to not get distracted, and pay attention to what you're doing. Bad things can happen quickly with machinery. I escaped a couple of careless decisions myself through luck; I fortunately learned from them. But today, I again learned something again from you, Mike. Thanks for sharing.
Yes I have had similar almost happen Mike. Now take the time to get off the tractor and remove things by hand when I see them. Also have a big hydraulic claw/grapple I use pushing trees/brush over clearing up after a bush fire a few yrs back in 🇦🇺. Need to be very mindful and look for logs and trees getting caught in the wrong place. Great video.
You’re lucky! A very similar thing happened to me…a limb got lodged between my tractor frame and the diesel supply line. Fuel line was pulled out of the tank. I didn’t notice the problem until the tractor engine quit and I heard fuel spilling out on the ground. 🤯🤯 Then I had the pleasure of repairing the fuel line and re-priming the fuel system. Lesson learned the hard way!
You are right about the tree. I would recommend removing all oaks and other trees that grow like that. They are not nearly as strong as you think. The joining wood is very weak and roots are goofy. The remaining tree is very likely to fall in a couple of years. I bet the root ball smells sour or you have seen fungus near the base of the tree.
Because I use my tractor for logging and trail maintenance I have ripped a bottom hydraulic line on two separate occasions, then I finally built a proper skid plate.
You need a grapple, less likely to catch your hydraulic lines. I had a load of logs shift back on me when going up a hill, one rolled back to one of my lines and caused a leak. Into town to get a new hose, won't do that again.
Hi Mike, I am enjoying & learning a lot from your channel, thankyou. Quick question, if you have the time. My UHI 25 HP amazing little tractor doesn't come with instructions anywhere for disconnecting the hydraulics, releasing pressure, I have read all the manuals, searched there site & youtubers but nothing on the UHI tractors. Do you have any tips in a vid that I missed. 😁
Oh heck yes I’ve been there and got lucky, and have been there and cost me money and time , really like that little saw, I’m packing a Milwaukee saws all for my little mess ups now!
Good spot and I did something similar, and I hooked a branch behind the pallet forks on purpose as it kept falling off. Luckily it fell away with out hurting something. But as I drove away I thought about what if it got caught in the hoses on the loader,,,,,
I have had numerous situations when using my grapple where small limbs and branches would get into the hoses and hydraulic fittings and either loosen or break the fittings and/or tearing the hoses apart. I feel the biggest reason is that implements [particularly aftermarket and non-OEM] are designed as as a "one size fits all tractors". The result is hoses are too long, poorly routed, unguarded, not properly restrained, and fitting locations poorly thought out by the implement manuacturers. There does not appear standardization as to where the hydraulic interface between implement and tractor should be located. The ASAE [American Society of Agricultural Engineers] needs to promulgate industry standards [or Recommended Practices] for tractor and implement OEMs to follow were hydraulic hookups are to be made. One needs to look no further than the heavy truck industry where much of the OEMs adhere to recommended practices of the SAE [Society of Automotive Engineers]. The air and electrical connections between the truck-tractor and trailer are almost always located on the lower left rear of the truck cab and on the centerline of the trailer low on the front bulkhead Virtually any OEM'S truck-tractor will work with any OEM's trailer. I am not aware of any truck-tractor OEM who also manufactures trailers, but incompatibilty problems between truck-tractor and trailer are nevertheless virtually non-existent. Look to the construction equipment industry. In good design practice, hoses are used ONLY at articulation points with rigid metal tubing used everywhere else. The steel tubing is much more rigorous when properly clamped into position, is not prone to embrittlement due to age and highly resistant due to abrasion. Hose manufactuers proscribe best practices for use of their hoses. Virtually every piece of ag equipment [either powered or implement] I have seen violate multiple hose manufacturer's recommended practices. To your viewers I recommend avoiding any equipment where the hydraulic hoses are outboard of the equipment structure [sure snag points when working with brush]. Avoid use of fittings with pipe threads on the high pressure lines. Use JIC, o-ring, or some other version of flared fittings. It is okay to use NPT on low pressure return lines [but they will still likely "weep" over time]. Make sure long hose runs are snugly attached to the structure. Plastic wire ties are handy for this. Implements like fork lifts when used for brush collection should have expanded or perforated metal welded to the "backboard" to prevent sticks and limbs from poking into the radiator and/or bodywork. Always remember a pinhole in a high pressure hose or loose fiittng will create a mist that is looking for a hot turbo, hot exhaust manifold or exhuast system. In tractors with the EPA's ill-advised, but neverthless mandated, emissions systems requirements and resultant very high temperatures especially during regen present an even greater risk. Sorry to be so long-winded, but I spent most of my working life dealing with mobile equipment hydraulic system design, problems and issues.
Great video Just curious, I know if you blew that line it would be a pain to fix, but health wise, how dangerous could that be? There is a lot pressure in those lines. If some one got sprayed with hydrolic line and it penetrated the skin; would that be a problem?
While there is a danger for oil under pressure entering the skin, you have to be within a faction of a inch from the burst for it to happen. Worst thing a burst loader line from sitting on the tractor is a oil bath. The oil usually doesn't get that hot on a tractor loader, but some construction equipment the oil can get so hot it can scald you.
When backing up after picking brush pile up had a dry hard maple stick spring up from tire bending it on ground . Went right between the hood and frame and puncture the rad . $$$$$ 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It appeared to me that the forks frame was provided the pressure on the limb..so it looked like if you slowly tilted forward, that would have relieved the pressure, and no longer needed to cut the limb
Mike, you dodged a bullet by the narrowest of margins. I'm actually surprised that the hose didn't pull out. I would keep an eye on the hoses for a while to watch for fluid seepage just in case the connection was pulled out on a minute level.
You have to wonder if a skid plate for a tractor would be of value if doing a lot of forestry work. My Kubota tractor has a couple of filters and hydraulic lines that look like they are very vulnerable to being damaged by a stick or something flung up by the wheels.
Been there done that. The worst is the lines that hang down the loader frame that connect into the quick couplers. I’ve had one hose pull out after getting snagged on a stump. I knew something was wrong when I couldn’t dump my bucket. I’m so lucky all that happened was the quick coupler came undone. Simply just popped it back in. No broken lines or fittings. Another thing to watch out for are the hydraulic hoses going to your steering cylinder. There’s a high risk of that when driving over branches. What sucks about that problem is you can’t really see it. I guess I’ve just gotten good enough as an operator to regularly check different areas of the equipment as I’m working. I look down and see a branch sticking up between the cylinder and hose. The dumbest hydraulic line I’ve ever blown was on the lift cylinder of the loader. I was scooping out of the back of a dump truck. The hydraulic lines come out on the bottom of the cylinder instead of the sides or top. And as I was driving forward I went to far and busted the hydraulic lines against the tailgate of the dump truck. Right in the middle of a project we were doing before a big event. Thank god our local napa does hydraulic hoses. Got the hoses the next day and finished the project before the deadline.
You have to be real careful moving brush with the tractor, those limbs can go everywhere and get under some serious tension. I've seen more than one grill and radiator destroyed from limbs.
Been there. Bush hogs also like to fling things under the tractor and rip wires and whatnot off. Be aware and be safe. Keep up the great work. 👍
I have to do some brush work soon. I will learn from your lesson and be cautious. That was a close call for your hydraulics. Even with experience, stuff happens. Thanks for sharing.
Well, I'll be out clearing fallen limbs in about 1 week after the last of the remaining snow melts. This video reminds me to not get distracted, and pay attention to what you're doing. Bad things can happen quickly with machinery. I escaped a couple of careless decisions myself through luck; I fortunately learned from them. But today, I again learned something again from you, Mike. Thanks for sharing.
Yes I have had similar almost happen Mike. Now take the time to get off the tractor and remove things by hand when I see them. Also have a big hydraulic claw/grapple I use pushing trees/brush over clearing up after a bush fire a few yrs back in 🇦🇺. Need to be very mindful and look for logs and trees getting caught in the wrong place. Great video.
You’re lucky! A very similar thing happened to me…a limb got lodged between my tractor frame and the diesel supply line. Fuel line was pulled out of the tank. I didn’t notice the problem until the tractor engine quit and I heard fuel spilling out on the ground. 🤯🤯 Then I had the pleasure of repairing the fuel line and re-priming the fuel system. Lesson learned the hard way!
When fatigue enters into the equation, that's a good time to "save it for tomorrow."
You are right about the tree. I would recommend removing all oaks and other trees that grow like that. They are not nearly as strong as you think. The joining wood is very weak and roots are goofy. The remaining tree is very likely to fall in a couple of years. I bet the root ball smells sour or you have seen fungus near the base of the tree.
Because I use my tractor for logging and trail maintenance I have ripped a bottom hydraulic line on two separate occasions, then I finally built a proper skid plate.
Glad you saw that
Just ordered one of those saws Mike.
We are all a few seconds from tearing something up on the tractor. We have to keep our head on a swivel and monitor everything like a nervous Nelly.
Thats a lot of good grill/bbq wood in that, tree.
You need a grapple, less likely to catch your hydraulic lines. I had a load of logs shift back on me when going up a hill, one rolled back to one of my lines and caused a leak. Into town to get a new hose, won't do that again.
Hi Mike, I am enjoying & learning a lot from your channel, thankyou. Quick question, if you have the time. My UHI 25 HP amazing little tractor doesn't come with instructions anywhere for disconnecting the hydraulics, releasing pressure, I have read all the manuals, searched there site & youtubers but nothing on the UHI tractors. Do you have any tips in a vid that I missed. 😁
A "HOLY S---" moment for sure!
Oh heck yes I’ve been there and got lucky, and have been there and cost me money and time , really like that little saw, I’m packing a Milwaukee saws all for my little mess ups now!
Good save there.
Good spot and I did something similar, and I hooked a branch behind the pallet forks on purpose as it kept falling off. Luckily it fell away with out hurting something. But as I drove away I thought about what if it got caught in the hoses on the loader,,,,,
I have had numerous situations when using my grapple where small limbs and branches would get into the hoses and hydraulic fittings and either loosen or break the fittings and/or tearing the hoses apart. I feel the biggest reason is that implements [particularly aftermarket and non-OEM] are designed as as a "one size fits all tractors". The result is hoses are too long, poorly routed, unguarded, not properly restrained, and fitting locations poorly thought out by the implement manuacturers.
There does not appear standardization as to where the hydraulic interface between implement and tractor should be located. The ASAE [American Society of Agricultural Engineers] needs to promulgate industry standards [or Recommended Practices] for tractor and implement OEMs to follow were hydraulic hookups are to be made. One needs to look no further than the heavy truck industry where much of the OEMs adhere to recommended practices of the SAE [Society of Automotive Engineers]. The air and electrical connections between the truck-tractor and trailer are almost always located on the lower left rear of the truck cab and on the centerline of the trailer low on the front bulkhead Virtually any OEM'S truck-tractor will work with any OEM's trailer. I am not aware of any truck-tractor OEM who also manufactures trailers, but incompatibilty problems between truck-tractor and trailer are nevertheless virtually non-existent.
Look to the construction equipment industry. In good design practice, hoses are used ONLY at articulation points with rigid metal tubing used everywhere else. The steel tubing is much more rigorous when properly clamped into position, is not prone to embrittlement due to age and highly resistant due to abrasion. Hose manufactuers proscribe best practices for use of their hoses. Virtually every piece of ag equipment [either powered or implement] I have seen violate multiple hose manufacturer's recommended practices.
To your viewers I recommend avoiding any equipment where the hydraulic hoses are outboard of the equipment structure [sure snag points when working with brush]. Avoid use of fittings with pipe threads on the high pressure lines. Use JIC, o-ring, or some other version of flared fittings. It is okay to use NPT on low pressure return lines [but they will still likely "weep" over time]. Make sure long hose runs are snugly attached to the structure. Plastic wire ties are handy for this. Implements like fork lifts when used for brush collection should have expanded or perforated metal welded to the "backboard" to prevent sticks and limbs from poking into the radiator and/or bodywork.
Always remember a pinhole in a high pressure hose or loose fiittng will create a mist that is looking for a hot turbo, hot exhaust manifold or exhuast system. In tractors with the EPA's ill-advised, but neverthless mandated, emissions systems requirements and resultant very high temperatures especially during regen present an even greater risk.
Sorry to be so long-winded, but I spent most of my working life dealing with mobile equipment hydraulic system design, problems and issues.
Excellent information, thank you. I'm a total layman and I've noticed the extremely haphazard way hoses are placed on ag equipment.
Great video
Just curious, I know if you blew that line it would be a pain to fix, but health wise, how dangerous could that be?
There is a lot pressure in those lines. If some one got sprayed with hydrolic line and it penetrated the skin; would that be a problem?
While there is a danger for oil under pressure entering the skin, you have to be within a faction of a inch from the burst for it to happen. Worst thing a burst loader line from sitting on the tractor is a oil bath. The oil usually doesn't get that hot on a tractor loader, but some construction equipment the oil can get so hot it can scald you.
Good catch, I have done that with my grapple bucket hoses a couple times. Makes you watch closer
When backing up after picking brush pile up had a dry hard maple stick spring up from tire bending it on ground . Went right between the hood and frame and puncture the rad . $$$$$ 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It appeared to me that the forks frame was provided the pressure on the limb..so it looked like if you slowly tilted forward, that would have relieved the pressure, and no longer needed to cut the limb
I second that...
A stitch in time saves 9 😉
Steve
Pensacola, FL
Mike, you dodged a bullet by the narrowest of margins. I'm actually surprised that the hose didn't pull out. I would keep an eye on the hoses for a while to watch for fluid seepage just in case the connection was pulled out on a minute level.
Damn Mike, A staged limb to sell a saw???
How could you not see that happening?
At lease you can see your branch. My branch came up from below and ripped out the power steering line.
You have to wonder if a skid plate for a tractor would be of value if doing a lot of forestry work.
My Kubota tractor has a couple of filters and hydraulic lines that look like they are very vulnerable to being damaged by a stick or something flung up by the wheels.
The little chainsaw would be able to cut away that stuck branch.
Edit: as you did.
Been there done that. The worst is the lines that hang down the loader frame that connect into the quick couplers. I’ve had one hose pull out after getting snagged on a stump. I knew something was wrong when I couldn’t dump my bucket. I’m so lucky all that happened was the quick coupler came undone. Simply just popped it back in. No broken lines or fittings.
Another thing to watch out for are the hydraulic hoses going to your steering cylinder. There’s a high risk of that when driving over branches. What sucks about that problem is you can’t really see it. I guess I’ve just gotten good enough as an operator to regularly check different areas of the equipment as I’m working. I look down and see a branch sticking up between the cylinder and hose.
The dumbest hydraulic line I’ve ever blown was on the lift cylinder of the loader. I was scooping out of the back of a dump truck. The hydraulic lines come out on the bottom of the cylinder instead of the sides or top. And as I was driving forward I went to far and busted the hydraulic lines against the tailgate of the dump truck. Right in the middle of a project we were doing before a big event. Thank god our local napa does hydraulic hoses. Got the hoses the next day and finished the project before the deadline.
You just paid for that little saw several times over.
You have to be real careful moving brush with the tractor, those limbs can go everywhere and get under some serious tension. I've seen more than one grill and radiator destroyed from limbs.
Where is your Add a Grapple for the forks? Lol
Had one come back put a dent in my hood
Better the hood than your head!
O my 😮
Interesting
been there, wasn't lucky