@@ChrisP3000x At Thomann (Europe's biggest seller) FA-06: 1099,- Euro, Fantom-06: 1499,- Euro. Ok you're right, not a great but a significant margin...
@@L77kim77l FA is on clearance over there, but not on this side of the pond I got mine during a Black Friday sale for a little less than that, though, and brand new
Great video. Thank you for a good comparison between these two exceptional keyboards. I have the Fantom 07 now and previously owned the FA06. The Fantom is a definite upgrade over the FA line.
Overall I agree, it's an upgrade. Nevertheless some (important) sounds were downgraded in my opinion. I will probably go with an RD-2000 and return my Fantom-08.
@@Talia.777 ModX would have been a choice before many other options. My problem is, that I am mainly for the lookout of a new keyboard because of a sub-out :/ maybe the next generation will offer this.
Can u just tell me about key action and key length of roland fa06 and roland fantom 06 ? Because I played fa06 and I felt the key length like toy. So fantom 06 key is also like that?
For some people, the FA-06's keys are a little short, so it may feel like a toy. However, the FA-06's keyboard is solid, so I like it. On the other hand, the FANTOM-06 is a newly developed keyboard that feels good to play, but the lowest key of the FANTOM-07 on display at the store was making a squeaking sound, so I was a little worried about its durability.
@@pf_masa so can you just help me? I was planning to buy a workstation nd I'm fixed to roland fantom flagship model is a good choice? On the other hand montage I can't afford that so I dropped that option
@@pf_masa also heard abt fantom flagship has analog filter so it has depth sound nd fantom 06 has digital filter not much depth than flagship but it sounds clear
@@joeljoseph2325 If you are purchasing a workstation for music production, I think the FANTON Flagship is better than the MONTAGE. MONTAGE is a music synthesizer, and as a synthesizer it has a thick sound and is very good, but Roland's FANTOM is better in the sequencer part because you can edit each sound one by one and the arrangement of tones for each track is clear. It meets my expectations. Now, the FANTOM-06 is compact, but if you don't care about the price, I'd buy the FANTOM-6 because of the operability of the sliders and buttons, the thickness of the sound, etc. This is a side note...I think the naming of FANTOM and FANTOM-0 is confusing♪
@@pf_masa thank you 👍 in india we can't demo the instrument because we are allowed to play after purchasing the instrument there is no any showcase. Means after booked the instrument nd full paid received then they will show its very pathetic because we can't test that before buy
thank you for the comparison! In real (i listen your test through my stereo system JBL+ monitor M-Audio) i like incredible more the FA06 and this shocked me.. cause i wanted change my Kurzweil PC4-8 with Fantom 08. i tested KURZ and i found it better than FA, and i suppose Fantom 08 serie was incredible upper than the FA serie. But is not this way. Maybe there're less detail.. armonics but the THIKNESS, the BODY of the sound is really much better in FA! i'm confuse now.. (but sure i will never by FANTOM 0x)..
For me too, the FA06 has a fat sound that goes well with drums and bass, so it was very useful in live performances. Thank you for your valuable comment!
Not an apples to apples comparison. Load the same bank/preset on both, since they should have the same SN-A banks, then compare - otherwise what you're comparing is two different presets.
Let's be honest, the FA is far superior with the real supernatural engine. Piano sounds are miles away from F0. The F0 doesn't have a real super natural engine, so there's not the editing options of a virtual instrument. Drums, guitars, pianos, everything is different. That Zen Core is a marketing gimmick, Roland just took the PCM engine and rebranded it. Take the Zen core and compare it to most PCM si the same thing. Now, real super natural is different. I own both, I replaced the juno ds for the F0 and yes it has other features but sound wise is not superior to the FA.
I sold my FA to get the FANTOM. :-) True, some sounds of the FA were really nice... but the zen core engine could let you recreate them whatever you miss from the FA .
単独ですと音の違いが分かり難いですが、同時に弾き比べると私にも分かりました。其々良いところが有って悩ましいですね。
大変参考になる比較動画をありがとうございます。これは悩ましいですね！
置き換えのつもりがKeepになるのは楽器あるあるっすね（笑
CASIO CT-S1000V or CT-S1との比較も聴いてみたいです。
ฉันมี 2 ตัว นี้ ชื่อแต่ละเสียงใน Menu ของพวกเขาเป็นชื่อเดียวกัน แต่น้ำหนักเสียงและรสนิยมต่างกัน FA06 มีความดุดัน แต่เปราะบาง Fantom6 เสียงที่มีความดุดัน ได้แอบมีความนุ่มนวลอยู่ในนั้น ฉันชอบทั้ง 2 แบะฉันใช้มันควบคู่กัน ❤️
I love your playing. Super talented.
When you consider Fantom-06 is a significant margin more expensive and FA-06 is eight years old, the sound quality is surprising...
"great margin"
No, they are almost the same price.
@@ChrisP3000x At Thomann (Europe's biggest seller) FA-06: 1099,- Euro, Fantom-06: 1499,- Euro.
Ok you're right, not a great but a significant margin...
@@L77kim77l Ok. That is strange that the price of the FA's decreased in Europe, but not the USA.
@@L77kim77l FA is on clearance over there, but not on this side of the pond
I got mine during a Black Friday sale for a little less than that, though, and brand new
Wonderful presentation!
Hi Masataka Kono-san, which one did you decide on in the end?
Finally, what I have is FANTOM-06😀
はじめまして、動画分かりやすいです。
シーケンスなど曲を作ってみたいと思った時に、初心者に扱いやすいのはどちらでしょうか？
ROLAND FANTOM-06 vs YAMAHA MODX6+ どちらかを考えています。
もしよかったらお願いします。
ありがとうございます！そう言って頂けると嬉しいです♪
シーケンスなどを組んで曲を作る場合には、FANTOM-06の方が良いと思います。
以前、私はMODX6を持っていましたが、思いついたフレーズをスケッチする等の簡易シーケンサーやパターンシーケンサーしかなく、一音一音編集できる機能が無かったので、手放した経緯があります。
初心者であってもFANTOM-06のシーケンス機能は分かり易いと思いますが、実際、弾いてみることをお勧めします。
@@pf_masa
ありがとうございました。
あまり演奏力がないので、素材をつぎ張りして何とか簡易的でもベースを作りたいと思っていました。
Great video. Thank you for a good comparison between these two exceptional keyboards. I have the Fantom 07 now and previously owned the FA06. The Fantom is a definite upgrade over the FA line.
Overall I agree, it's an upgrade. Nevertheless some (important) sounds were downgraded in my opinion. I will probably go with an RD-2000 and return my Fantom-08.
@@ravenmusic932 I think you should go for the Fantom (the flagship)
@@Talia.777 too heavy and outside of my budget. And for that price I would probably rather take the Montage.
@@ravenmusic932So in that case, "Montage" is a great choice too... or you can get a ModX with the same engine as Montage for lower prices.. 👍
@@Talia.777 ModX would have been a choice before many other options. My problem is, that I am mainly for the lookout of a new keyboard because of a sub-out :/ maybe the next generation will offer this.
Can u just tell me about key action and key length of roland fa06 and roland fantom 06 ? Because I played fa06 and I felt the key length like toy. So fantom 06 key is also like that?
For some people, the FA-06's keys are a little short, so it may feel like a toy. However, the FA-06's keyboard is solid, so I like it.
On the other hand, the FANTOM-06 is a newly developed keyboard that feels good to play, but the lowest key of the FANTOM-07 on display at the store was making a squeaking sound, so I was a little worried about its durability.
@@pf_masa so can you just help me? I was planning to buy a workstation nd I'm fixed to roland fantom flagship model is a good choice? On the other hand montage I can't afford that so I dropped that option
@@pf_masa also heard abt fantom flagship has analog filter so it has depth sound nd fantom 06 has digital filter not much depth than flagship but it sounds clear
@@joeljoseph2325 If you are purchasing a workstation for music production, I think the FANTON Flagship is better than the MONTAGE. MONTAGE is a music synthesizer, and as a synthesizer it has a thick sound and is very good, but Roland's FANTOM is better in the sequencer part because you can edit each sound one by one and the arrangement of tones for each track is clear. It meets my expectations.
Now, the FANTOM-06 is compact, but if you don't care about the price, I'd buy the FANTOM-6 because of the operability of the sliders and buttons, the thickness of the sound, etc.
This is a side note...I think the naming of FANTOM and FANTOM-0 is confusing♪
@@pf_masa thank you 👍 in india we can't demo the instrument because we are allowed to play after purchasing the instrument there is no any showcase. Means after booked the instrument nd full paid received then they will show its very pathetic because we can't test that before buy
とっても分かりやすい動画で、じっくり見ることができました。お値段が倍のお高いFANTOMもレビューが欲しいです～～(^^♪
もう遅いかも知れませんが、V-piano音源があるか、アフタータッチの有無、音が途切れないチャンネル数などの違いが使ってみて大きなところですかね、自分はFANTOM8を持っているのですが、重たいので持ち運びには不便ですね、
あと、ノブなどの数が減ってタッチパネルでの操作が必要になったのにタッチパネルが小さくなったのでやりにくいと思います。
参考になりました！ちなみに電源入れてから立ち上がりはどちらも結構な時間かかってしまいますか？？
ありがとうございます！起動時間は、FANTOM-06は20秒でした。FA-06は今、手元にないので確認できませんが、同じくらいだったと思います。
I seem to prefer the sound of the Fantom-06. I have a Yamaha DGX-670 and the strings don't sustain with the pedal which for me is horrible.
ちょうどシンセ購入を検討していてJUNOかFAか迷っててFAにしようと思ってたところだったのですが、動画拝見したらFANTOMのほうが音が断然いいからまた迷い始めました。。録音機能的にはFAのほうが自分のやりたいこと出来そうなのですがもう8年も前の機種になっているということだし悩ましいです。
変拍子（1小節ごとに6拍子と7拍子が入れ替わるような）の曲をコピーしたいのですがシンセだとそういう打ち込みは難しそうでしょうか。やっぱりPCでソフトで打ち込むほうが一般的ですかね🤔
FAの録音機能は通常のシーケンサなので、FAの方がFITする方もいるかもしれませんね。来週はFA06の簡単な録音の仕方を演奏付きでご紹介する予定です。変拍子は、PCソフトの方が操作しやすいかもしれませんね♪
@@pf_masa ご返信ありがとうございます！来週の動画めちゃたのしみにしてます🥰DAWソフトは一度も使ったことがないので気持ち的にハードル高いのですが、使えるようになったほうがいろいろできて楽しいかもですね。がんばります！
thank you for the comparison! In real (i listen your test through my stereo system JBL+ monitor M-Audio) i like incredible more the FA06 and this shocked me.. cause i wanted change my Kurzweil PC4-8 with Fantom 08. i tested KURZ and i found it better than FA, and i suppose Fantom 08 serie was incredible upper than the FA serie. But is not this way. Maybe there're less detail.. armonics but the THIKNESS, the BODY of the sound is really much better in FA! i'm confuse now.. (but sure i will never by FANTOM 0x)..
For me too, the FA06 has a fat sound that goes well with drums and bass, so it was very useful in live performances. Thank you for your valuable comment!
hi , thanks for comparison test , i think here Fantom 06 sound quality is littlebit better than FA .
Why does your FA-06 sound muddy? Mine does not.
The Fantom sounds better but i never gonna sell my Fa since its very great for working with songideas
Same...I traded in my FA06 3 years ago to buy a MODX...but lusted after pad and sample features. Just bought another FA06 used for $700
FAとYAMAHAP225ならどちらがいいでしょうか？
FAはシンセなので、電子ピアノのP-225とは比較するとなると難しいですね…ジャズピアノを弾くとしたらP-225を選びますし、エレピの音はFAが大好きです♪
@@pf_masa ありがとうございます！
こういうシンセも欲しくなっちゃいます
FANTOMとJUNOはどちらがスペックが高いのですか？
FANTOM-0が多機能で上位な機種ですが、最近出たJUNO-Dはシンプルな操作で音が良く、使いやすそうです。JUNO-Dは音色も追加されているので、良さそうですね☺
@@pf_masa わかりやすくありがとうございます。どっちかでとっても迷います。初心者だから後者でいいと思いますが、見えっ張りでもあるので迷います。笑
@@ゆめかわピアノ 今後、FANTOM-06とJUNO-D6の比較動画を出す予定でいますので、どうぞお楽しみに☺
@@pf_masa まさにそれ私が欲しい情報です。楽しみです。
Not an apples to apples comparison. Load the same bank/preset on both, since they should have the same SN-A banks, then compare - otherwise what you're comparing is two different presets.
これが楽器たる個性なんでしょうね、最新が最良とならない不思議な電子機器、mini moogも未だに現役 DX7 も、、もてるなら所持していたいですよね、
Merci
Let's be honest, the FA is far superior with the real supernatural engine. Piano sounds are miles away from F0. The F0 doesn't have a real super natural engine, so there's not the editing options of a virtual instrument. Drums, guitars, pianos, everything is different. That Zen Core is a marketing gimmick, Roland just took the PCM engine and rebranded it. Take the Zen core and compare it to most PCM si the same thing. Now, real super natural is different. I own both, I replaced the juno ds for the F0 and yes it has other features but sound wise
is not superior to the FA.
Thanks for sharing your info and opinions ♪
@@pf_masa your reviews and playing are great!
I sold my FA to get the FANTOM. :-) True, some sounds of the FA were really nice... but the zen core engine could let you recreate them whatever you miss from the FA .
konoさん RolandのFANTOMとFANTOM-0についてですが、気になる動画を見てしまいました。
音色をレイヤーした場合に同時発音数に制限がかかり、音が出なくなったり、音途切れを発生するようです。
動画がFANTOMですがFANTOM-06でも発生するようで、FAでは発生しないようです。
お手数ですが、お手元にFANTOM－06がまだあったら、お暇なときで結構ですので、調べて頂けませんか？英語なのでイマイチはっきり理解できませんが、高価なFANTOMがこのような問題を仕様として抱えているとしたら気になってしようがありません。
よろしくお願いします。
th-cam.com/video/M74BhNKkXnE/w-d-xo.html
にあります。ポリフォニーの問題との掲題です。
ご紹介頂いた動画は、何を問題としているのかが良く分かりませんでしたので、どのように私が検証して良いか分かりません…
ちなみに、FANTOM-06の説明書には、同時に鳴らす楽器のパートの数が多い場合、同時発音数が128 を超えると音が途切れるとの記載があります。３音色を重ねて鳴らすと42音までしか鳴らすことができないと思います。加えてサスティンペダルを音を途切れさせたくない（抜けさせたくない）場合、パートでのボイス・リザーブ数を予め設定することができます。
@@pf_masa ご連絡ありがとうございました。お手数お掛けしました。
fa-06は雑念が多い感じがする！！
それがいい ローランドらしい音