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Physicists, and those involved in academia, by and large, are susceptible to woke or any zeitgeist for the simple fact that their trade and livelihood depend on the hand that feeds their livelihood, both intellectually and materialistically, which, in most cases, mean the bureaucratic state.
re solving problems: When I was a child, I felt bad that Moses could only see the Promised Land. I thought that God should have let him experience going there. Since then, I have learned that one does not have to find a solution for things that interest. I believe that working on a problem or several problems can be more than enough. Understanding something can be a powerful event in the mind. I now think that Moses was quite content to see how things were going to turn out.
Dear One, Moses is as much an amalgated character as Jesus Priests cobble words together...the regime controls religion and language. The regime is controlled by an oligarchy of owners. Before, their systems, humans were connected with Nature, and their Natural Selves. When these thing came together well, this is divine. Your interpretations of their words is divine...so is everyOne elses.
Great stuff. And particularly interesting to hear David discuss the question of infinite knowledge. It's one small part of his worldview that I question. Could knowledge and therefore the universe be finite? Could there be an endpoint, one to which humans are relevant (and thus a tautology inherent in the universe and perhaps even a dialect)?
[33:42] “Everyone should do what gives them joy.” “None of us can choose what our ideas imply.” - David Deutsch, _The Beginning of Infinity_ Hint: pogroms, and ululating amongst them
Re people doing what they do, David thinks our conceptual framework controls our millions of year old biology. I say we use concepts to justify the unknown of our bodies.
I think people like you are triggered by Sam Harris more than he's triggered by anything. He thinks trump sets a dangerous precedent. He doesnt like the left either. It's not anything to be so smarmy about.
A whole lot of physicists got into politics, humanism, philosophy, moralizing, whateveryoucallit, and made fools of themselves. Einstein himself wasn't entirely innocent here. Victor Weisskopf. Edward Teller from the other side. Bertrand Russell comes to mind, though he was a mathematician. Etc., etc. I still think that a shoemaker should make shoes, and a baker should bake pies. And a physicist should just do physics.
@@Kurtlane It's the logical outcome of your argument that shoemakers should make shoes, physicists should do physics, etc. The logic is that politicians should do politics. And that is exactly the situation that we have. Physicists may have made fools of themselves and shoemakers may not have made beneficial contributions to politics, but it can just as well be argued that politicians have not done better.
@@MrJREllman , Well, if by "politicians" you mean “government officials,” then doing their job would mean listening to the people they represent, and, if their wishes and demands are sane and reasonable, putting them into reality. As opposed to: ignoring the voters, setting people up against each other, giving them “bread and circuses,” deliberately changing the demographics to what a politician thinks will benefit him, lying, deceiving, manipulating, following an anti-human ideology, whipping up insane passions, letting criminals loose, jailing everyone who dares to disagree, etc. If by “politicians” you mean those who do all that, than no, I don’t want them to do their job. Just like I don’t want killers or burglars to do theirs.
@@Kurtlane You’ve misunderstood the question. The question is: How can we get better politicians? It is not, do you want bad politicians to do their job? My point is that politicians, in the sense of natural born high quality politicians, do not exist. They can only come from the people and from a wide range of people such as shoemakers, bakers, philosophers, teachers, physicists, economists, artists and so on and so on. Of course, this won’t be perfect. But the alternative is, well, is what we’ve got, useless and corrupt politicians.
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David Deutsch is a very nice chap.
That comes across very clearly.
Good man! 👍👍👍😁
Amazing conversation, thank you! The purpose of life is to enjoy!
Thank you for spreading rational Deutschian memes Gadfather
Physicists, and those involved in academia, by and large, are susceptible to woke or any zeitgeist for the simple fact that their trade and livelihood depend on the hand that feeds their livelihood, both intellectually and materialistically, which, in most cases, mean the bureaucratic state.
Upton Sinclair Quote belongs here:
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it"
You should listen to David Deutsch, he couldn’t care less about the hand that pays him
Yes, and that is a damn shame.
"I don't think I have ever persuaded an audience of something." Dr Deutsch is great.
re solving problems: When I was a child, I felt bad that Moses could only see the Promised Land. I thought that God should have let him experience going there. Since then, I have learned that one does not have to find a solution for things that interest. I believe that working on a problem or several problems can be more than enough. Understanding something can be a powerful event in the mind. I now think that Moses was quite content to see how things were going to turn out.
Dear One,
Moses is as much an amalgated character as Jesus
Priests cobble words together...the regime controls religion and language. The regime is controlled by an oligarchy of owners.
Before, their systems, humans were connected with Nature, and their Natural Selves. When these thing came together well, this is divine.
Your interpretations of their words is divine...so is everyOne elses.
Thank you for brining light in to the woke world GadSaad, pleasure to listen to both of you.
Deutsch is always a great listen
I loved Deutsch's book The Fabric of Reality.
1:00:00 getting to be creative is a fundamental part of happiness
1:05:00 David’s theory of anti-Sem
you can just see Gad absolutely fucking enjoying this! True love for wisdom always shows
A big fan of beginning of infinity.
If David finds the article about the street sweeper, could you share it please?
@12:23 is the punchline implied - ie that they were uncertain about sitting with the guy who came up with the uncertainty principle?
01:03:49 DD already knew the distinction between proximate and ultimate cause. He was just too polite to say anything LOL.
Great stuff. And particularly interesting to hear David discuss the question of infinite knowledge. It's one small part of his worldview that I question. Could knowledge and therefore the universe be finite? Could there be an endpoint, one to which humans are relevant (and thus a tautology inherent in the universe and perhaps even a dialect)?
Oh, boy: am I the "slow kid in the class"!
I'm 30 and if I could send one message to my 20 year old it's what David said in the end
Great episode. However I wish David was speaking more.
[33:42] “Everyone should do what gives them joy.”
“None of us can choose what our ideas imply.” - David Deutsch, _The Beginning of Infinity_
Hint: pogroms, and ululating amongst them
Re people doing what they do, David thinks our conceptual framework controls our millions of year old biology. I say we use concepts to justify the unknown of our bodies.
Does anyone know the name of that street sweeper book?
@1:01:04 who else actually clapped?
FTA
Cosmic forces are triggering Sam Harris.
I haven’t checked in with Sam since the election. How’s he doing?
@@grippercrapper😅😅
I think people like you are triggered by Sam Harris more than he's triggered by anything. He thinks trump sets a dangerous precedent. He doesnt like the left either. It's not anything to be so smarmy about.
A whole lot of physicists got into politics, humanism, philosophy, moralizing, whateveryoucallit, and made fools of themselves. Einstein himself wasn't entirely innocent here. Victor Weisskopf. Edward Teller from the other side. Bertrand Russell comes to mind, though he was a mathematician. Etc., etc.
I still think that a shoemaker should make shoes, and a baker should bake pies. And a physicist should just do physics.
So you're happy with the politicians that we've got?
@MrJREllman , Where in the world did I say that?
@@Kurtlane It's the logical outcome of your argument that shoemakers should make shoes, physicists should do physics, etc.
The logic is that politicians should do politics. And that is exactly the situation that we have.
Physicists may have made fools of themselves and shoemakers may not have made beneficial contributions to politics, but it can just as well be argued that politicians have not done better.
@@MrJREllman , Well, if by "politicians" you mean “government officials,” then doing their job would mean listening to the people they represent, and, if their wishes and demands are sane and reasonable, putting them into reality.
As opposed to: ignoring the voters, setting people up against each other, giving them “bread and circuses,” deliberately changing the demographics to what a politician thinks will benefit him, lying, deceiving, manipulating, following an anti-human ideology, whipping up insane passions, letting criminals loose, jailing everyone who dares to disagree, etc.
If by “politicians” you mean those who do all that, than no, I don’t want them to do their job. Just like I don’t want killers or burglars to do theirs.
@@Kurtlane You’ve misunderstood the question. The question is: How can we get better politicians? It is not, do you want bad politicians to do their job?
My point is that politicians, in the sense of natural born high quality politicians, do not exist. They can only come from the people and from a wide range of people such as shoemakers, bakers, philosophers, teachers, physicists, economists, artists and so on and so on. Of course, this won’t be perfect. But the alternative is, well, is what we’ve got, useless and corrupt politicians.
Tankyo gadman silkend tong and sciencman deutsch egghed lern me fisiks
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@MrJREllman tankyo
@@onlyonetoserve9586 yo wilkumed is
The only thing you are true about is that you’re really an animal