I made this after episode 27 (chapter 5) but decided to not release it until the chapter was over, to reduce possible 'spoiler-ish' speculation as to where this chapter was heading :)
In all honesty, I am hoping that there will be a version of Deadly Dragons that doesn't require SkyUI because I am one of those shmucks that has CC content (the ones that are absolutely recommended, like Forgotten Seasons and Pets of Skyrim), and I honestly don't want to temporarilly stop my own Let's Play because of every Skyrim SE update when using skse64. What I mean by that is, I would like to have the dragon fights just as hard for my character, just don't want to go through all of the hoops.
So... Leonard isn't going to realise that poisons stack then? I don't mind the dragon fights, because you're so freaking good at playing him as incompetent at archery... I cried with laughter at the first dragon fight... but I was honestly looking forward to seeing him deal with the two dragons at the dig site. And does this put the LOTD on hold for now?
i do agree that the fights shouldnt be easier especially for leonard love his character though it can get a little dull if half an ep is 1 dragon fight slowly plinking away not sure what would work but i dont think sacrificing the fear and power a dragon brings is the answer
I think the complaint is less kind to the length of the fight, and more with the frequency of them. Because Skyrim has a lot of dragons, and if every 5 episodes you lose about half the episode to fighting a dragon, that's a tenth of a series watching someone pull out a crossbow and plink a dragon until it takes pity and lies down to die. Personally, I feel like installing a mod for less frequent dragon attacks would allow you to keep having dragons be an apocalyptic threat, while avoiding making them bog down the episodes too often. After that, I'm wondering if you could enable something to have him attack dragons in a wider array of methods, but the less frequent dragon attacks would probably work.
I didn't think an explanation from you was necessary, Gopher. Leonard's style is exactly that.. "Duck and run" when it comes to anything that he can't kill with poisons. But if you are intending to try something to fit into your game without taking too much away from the current style of dealing with Dragons, why not go get some Dragon companions like Odahviing and that undead Dragon from the Dawnguard DLC? Plus, you can learn the "Marked For Death" shout to weaken the dragons and also, if you aim that shout carelessly, you could hit Inigo and more comedy might ensue. Just my thoughts. Take care.
I was the one who left that "Fights one dragon for 40 minutes comment" and I just wanted to clear up that I was and am well aware of the roleplay and was just making a silly joke, I actually really like how Leonard handles Dragons... you know... like a normal effing person, which is to say screaming and running away and seeking help from others. Don't change a thing man, this is one of the most unique playthroughs I've ever watched.
For the record, I didn't take it badly. As I said, I can image it actually feels longer with the way Leonard fights. Richard actually had dragon fights that lasted an hour, but they were much more exciting because Richard actually fought them.
Me to that fight was so funny, and I think it is great that Leonard is someone who pounces from the shadows rather that goes in screaming and welding a big axe. Mind you there is plenty of screaming.
Have people not been paying attention through the rest of this playthrough? "I can't use a fire spell, I might burn my hand!" Personally, Leonard arriving at the top of the Throat of the World and the whole "OMG, a dragon!" and promptly running away was hilarious. Gopher, please DO NOT shorten the Dragon fights. The "No, no, no! Not doing it," attitude of Leonard (when it comes to fighting Dragons) is what makes this playthrough. I honestly think that you should ask your viewers in tonight's stream, whether you should abridge the fights. I think a lot of them will say, "No."
I won't shorten the fights, but I may cut the footage a little more to save time for the viewer whilst still trying to get across Leonards frustration and fear. Just leave the more 'salient' or entertaining bits.
You could also throw in the occasional scene of him telling the fight as a story to someone. “And so i heroically drew my bow” *cut to panicked screaming for shadowmere” “And set about fighting the beast all by myself. Inigo was there too” *cut to him hiding in a tent in a bandit camp yelling ‘did you kill it!?’* “It was over in moments” *a cut to him absorbing the soul breathing heavily in pitch blackness. ‘You know inigo, it was morning when we got stuck here’* Sorta like your opener with Astrid. That kinda thing could get you at least two or three fights condensed down to a few minutes.
I can imagine Leonard assemble all of his Housecarl and a small army of mercenaries, going up to the top of Throat of the World only to find out that the dragon is actually Paarthunax :-)
@@gadman85 but still....there has to be a reason for him to bother to go up there when he thinks paarthunax was eaten alive up there...let alone a reason to go to the greybeards again
@@Ko700el It is still the only way to learn 'Dragonrend'. I think there will come a point sooner or latter where Leonard will (no matter how begrudgingly) need that Shout even if Paarthunax was eaten by a dragon.
@@Genesis23OPB What if gopher warned us about dragon fights if they are too long if you wanted to skip it (a time stamp or something)? Now i dont think this should be a thing but each to their own :)
@@Genesis23OPB I want them to be damage sponges. You are shooting a crossbow at a massive dragon. It should take a ton of bolts to kill it. But, I can see how that'd be painful to watch.
Aye. I think the majority of us knew what we were getting into when we allowed ourselves to fall in love with... err... well, Inigo, anyway. Leonard is like pre-kids Gru of Despicable Me. He's just wicked enough to mitigate the guilt I feel enjoying his suffering.
This chapter's ending was probably my favourite. It was unexpected, but fit Leonard perfectly. I'm really excited to see where you go next. I hope the series won't end anytime soon.
It all makes perfect sense for Leonard. That said, the long fights haven't bothered me personally so long as you've got some sort of dialogue going at the same time. We get to hear the fear and awe rattling around in poor Lenny's head.
Its also worth noting that even the Canon Dragonborn from the trailers is aware of how dangerous dragons are. In the original trailer he only fights one head on because he's been cornered at the edge of a cliff.
I absolutely love the way Leonard maneuvers in these types of fights. It’s brilliant and not something that I’ve ever thought about doing. It just fits and this video just emphasizes Leonard’s mentality so well. That ending was just hilarious 😂
I think the problem is with people perceiving it as intentionally failing at the game, IGN Cuphead, and not seeing the fact that you are telling a story/"TV" show with the game.
I'm remembering a certain dragon fight from Richard with a Green dragon that was like an entire episode 45 min and 15 min of the next XD I thought that was fine and enjoyable to watch when that came out lol
Personally I love the way you've modded the dragons. That's how tough they should feel, according to all the Lore about them, and especially for someone like Leonard, as you say. I haven't found any of the dragon encounters boring. For example, the fight that ended with Delphine being tossed over a mountain and Leonard being deep-frozen was brilliant and hilarious.
Lenny was written and performed perfectly. I was there to see how the bloody bowless thief would face a dragon and I was very pleased with the answer: he won't. Keep up the magnificent work, Gopher!
I watch a huge number of Gopher's videos but I've never watched more than the occasional episode of his _Let's Plays._ Same as I don't watch livestreams it's just not my sort of thing, but the Leonard Let's Play has completely captivated me, it's opened my eyes to these sort of playthroughs and videos, I find myself checking my sub feed every day hoping for a new episode which is extremely out of character. So, in other words... the Leonard Let's Play is flippin' fantastic and doesn't require any explanation nor changes, IMO.
I hope Leonard will consider his army of huscarls to deal with the two dragons or he will get an army up there somehow. I am curious what the two dragons are guarding. :3
That fight was brilliant! I noticed your efforts to cut stuff out, but still, I laughed and actually felt inspired to set my Deadly Dragons settings to insane. Also showed the fight to my boyfriend and he laughed the whole time too. Keep doing what you are doing because I truly believe most of us are perfectly okay with your dragon fights.
I love the way Leonard finds his ways through Skyrim. In fact, through him, I had a bunch of new ideas for my next characters. I'm not quite sure how those ideas will play out, but this is a story for another time. For the moment I enjoy my kind-of warrior like Altmer mage, who is literally completely unable to sneak, pick a pocket or has any idea what she is supposed to do with a lockpick.
One of the reasons I’ve been a follower all these years is that as a creator, you are true to your stories. Your talent as a storyteller has grown into mastery, and your Leonard is a delight. Not to mention he has a dashing fashion sense! I think this was successful, in line with Leonard’s abilities, and there’s a ff button for anyone who needs it. So. Do what’s right for the story.
You've got nothing to atone for. You play Leonard precisely in-character at all times, and as far as I'm concerned, the consistency is appreciated. It makes the whole of the story more compelling as he experiences it. I have to compliment you on his encounter with Parthurnax. Brief though it was, that was 100% Leonard and great fun. Keep up the good work, sir.
I would just like to see Leonard thinking through all his options. Like Enchanting his crossbow and considering using spells like his Lucien LaChance summon.
The only dragon fight that I felt dragged on far too long was the winterhold college one. But this was NOT your fault, this was because of the fact it was NIGHT, and nobody else was awake/engaged.
Honestly I think that the fact Leonard is so terrified in those situations is the best part of the series. I generally listen to the episodes like podcasts with them playing in the background of whatever I’m doing as opposed to watching them, so the commentary and internal dialogue is what makes it engaging for me.
Some of us love Leonard just as he is including his self-preservationist, danger-avoidance, walk/ride everywhere personality! Gopher, not the game, is actually the entertainment. It's the journey, not the destination, that counts. Keep up the good work and long videos :-)
DO NOT Stop Leonard and his STORY. Gopher, you are telling a story of a segment of Leonard's life. Do not skip his growth. I really enjoy it. If someone does not like his slow growth, they can just skip the episode. I love it and laugh and smile. Anxious to see how he progresses. GO GOPHER, GO LEONARD!
Hey Gopher! I find the way Leonard fights dragons absolutely hilarious and entertaining. Of course a dragon should never be so easy to take down. The issue is that I think dragons spawn too frequently in Vanilla Skyrim which makes one think "Oh there comes another dragon.", making them just another generic enemy. Perhaps using a mod that takes down the dragon spawn frequency a bit will help. I find it slightly irksome that once the dragon spawns it keeps following the player character around so the player can't really escape the fight when they don't feel like it. It'd also be great to see Leonard become more inventive in his ways of dragon-slaying. I am not sure if there's a mod that'd allow you to set up and deploy some traps and then lure the dragons into them. Using a followers mod to allow you to recruit a small force of guards/npcs to fight the dragon is also another suggestion.
Gopher, I've enjoyed your videos for years and am proud to suport you on Patreon. I rarely comment on videos, but let me say this: Leonard is your finest work to date. There's no question in my mind. I know you felt it important to address the comments of the viewers, but keep doing exactly what you're doing with this Let's Play. What sets you apart from most of the others is the care and planning, the forethought, that you're putting in your narrative choices. There are others that do this as well, but not many. Most are just playing. You're doing far more that just role playing; you're crafting a story within the Skyrim framework in a way that's unique, and bloody brilliant as far as I'm concerned. Please keep doing exactly what you're doing.
I enjoyed the college fight as it was absolutely in-character for Leonard. And it allowed for some really funny moments (really, you're going to sweep up now?).
I'm here for the entertainment of it all!! Love your play throughs. I've never played Skyrim or any other game. My kids were watching the play through of Richard and I started seeing a little here and there and before long I was hooked. I look forward to every video. Please keep doing what you are doing. LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!
Gopher I’ve been watching you for 5+ years and your mastery & skill at telling a story never ceases to amaze me, you truly have a gift & i just wanted to say thank you for all that you do to entertain us
I actually find the long Dragon fights with Leonard hysterical and terribly funny. My wife and I laugh a lot while watching Gophers Leonard play through. So Gopher, for what its worth, your making one HELL of a great play through.
definitely if Leonard had to deal with a dragon at some point, like with the two in the valley, amassing a small army would be the best option. one might say "oh, but that's CHEESE!", forgetting that Leonard is absolutely the type of person who would cheese a dragon if given the chance.
It feels like if Leonard winds up going to solestiem and getting caught up with the business there, he might feel more empowered to face dragons thanks to the shouts he will gain.
What you are doing is great Gopher, Lenny is sooo enternaining ! I love him just the way he is. Keep up the good work dear Gopher. Kisses from France 😁❤
I honestly think some viewers didn't/don't realize how this playthrough has been modded. I love it. I am enjoying this playthrough quite alot. Leonard is such a great character and your roleplaying is perfect!
You are doing a great job Gopher. I like the way leonard is its funny i love getting a good laugh. I really enjoyed the ending and cant wait for more. The dragon fights are understandable to me when looking from leonards point of view. keep up the awesome work and dont stress have fun.
I mean, I'm only 1 person, but Leonard and Inigo is my favourite playthrough you've done and if it were to end I'd be really sad. Also, I didn't mind the fight because you keep him in character and you talk...well wail and it keeps those long fights really funny and entertaining.
Note about Deadly Dragons' Assault System. That is separate from Vanilla's radiant dragon encounter. You will still get encounters from vanilla, but at least you won't get a sudden assault from Deadly Dragons.
Honestly for me, the poison buff mod was what kicked it over the edge from 'Incredibly difficult fight with someone who isn't built for this kind of thing at all' to 'sheer drudgery to sit through'
Leonard's character is brilliantly constructed. His difficulty in dragon-slaying not only makes sense, but I find it awfully entertaining. I'd have no issue watching the full fight, were it to be included... In fact, I would quite enjoy it
There are a lot of times when it feels like he's doing a let's play over roleplaying, because a lot of stuff doesn't sound right for roleplaying. (like calling the Shout/Thuum for Whirlwind "a wizzy thing"...) It feels like he occasionally breaks immersion, I get that he tries his best to roleplay but the way I see it he's just doesn't.
Why does a character who tends towards flippant moments (partly because he's a smartarse, partly because he's a bit defensive about things he's either not good at, or doesn't quite understand, IMO) having a silly name for a shout not sound right for roleplaying? Sure, Gopher's poking fun at some of the mechanics or sillier parts of the quest writing/design sometimes, but IMO he stays in character perfectly well, and remains definitely on the right side of the fourth wall, just bumps into it occasionally, and goes 'argh'.
@@starilvara Exactly. That IS what role playing a character's personal traits are supposed to be. Gopher does Leonard's character traits superbly well. There is a big difference between just doing a Let's Play run through of a game without a story driven character, and a Role Play requiring the player character to have quirky character traits. Kind of like when movie & television actors go from one movie to another, they have to role play the character they are portraying in that particular movie. You see a lot of LP's on TH-cam, but few Role Plays with this level of character depth. Gopher has pulled this off very well. Have a great one out there!
A couple o' years after you did this. But I am currently watching through the series. And I thought of it taking all that time fitting perfectly with Leonard. You have created this beautifully. I agree it was taking an absurd amount of time to what we skyrim players are used too. But I have never got to play as beautifully as you do with your characters. Keep it going mate!
Lenny having a natural human reaction to a dragon is the whole reason I love him so much. His character is so amazingly normal yet not normal. Willing to get power for himself like artifacts and even killing/thieving for coin. He's one of the most interesting characters I honestly believe you've made so far and I've been here since your first skyrim playthrough. Keep up the good work, I absolutely love Lenny and how you play out each of your characters. Never change a thing ❤
It really feels like Leonard should have a quest where he can get more guards patrolling the roads. Or more skirmishes of the imperials and storm cloaks that could turn on a dragon should one appear. You know the skirmish breaks out they're fighting each other dragon shows up they fight it then they disband because they've lost so many on both sides. Seems like a more friendly way to handle dragons.also it would make navigating a little bit more funny when you run across stormcloaks and imperials and you have to find a way around them. Forcing you into fighting a troll or whatever just to get around them.
I really like the personality Gopher has given Leonard. His feeling of self-importance and wanting to be thane of all holds is well offset by his absolute fear of facing dragons. It's a good mix and the times when he is forced to face a dragon are very comedic and enjoyable. I would like to see the few dragon souls he collects lead to deep consideration of what shouts to use them to unlock. Particularly, I would like to see Leonard get the Throw Voice shout because I think it could be useful for sneaking, but as I recall, the dragon that unlocks that shout was pretty hard to defeat and easy to run away from, so maybe that won't happen.
Hi Gopher, I was wondering is this going to mean that the museum story is going to be ended there? as it seems to not let you do any other quests without killing them two dragons, and by your own admission, He would run away from any dragon, and in this case it is two of them?
In comparison to that one episode where Richard fought 2 dragons while huddled in a hut for the entire length of a one hour episode, Leonard got this done quickly :P
Dragons *SHOULD* be mighty, dangerous, and unyielding. Killing a dragon in 25 minutes should be a feat, logically speaking. Watching how strong and cool and lethal the dragons you are fighting is fun. Those people complaining should just play ez mode and slay the dragons themselves, smh.
@@BoyBlunder66 Oh. You are talking *in general.* Yeah. Idk, not sure if that's true or false. My points stand, though, dragons should be tough and lethal (lore fact). Killing it fast is boring (individual opinion). Be it Gopher or others. I left other's Skyrim LP because their dragon fights are too brief. But, if Gopher (or anyone) struggles to kill one single non-dragon (and non-colossi) enemy for 30 mins or more, then you are right, in general it would be tedious and boring.
Unfortunately, the ultra-long dragon fights still get pretty tedious because, somewhat ironically, very little actually happens even though you're engaging in life-or-death combat. I can see how it makes sense for Leonard's character, but that doesn't make it any less tedious to watch. I grant that you manage to do as good a job as anyone probably could to make them entertaining despite that, what with the banter and all. But even so, I really do appreciate how you've used mods to drastically reduce how many dragon attacks there are. The rest of the series is much more fun to watch than the dragon fights, so it's good that you focus more on that.
People are incredibly .... -.- We all KNOW that YOU could get such a Dragon down in a Heartbeat, but we have Lenny here....and it was awesome to watch how you really stayed in Character and struggled with that Situation! I really enjoyed it, and i bet the majority of People did...so please make us the Lenny like u intended and don't let these inpatient Folks get to you (= Have a Sweetroll! (=
I was so looking forward to seeing how Gopher would maneuver Leonard through the character development to get to the point of being able to take down Alduin, that then I realized the chapter was over, I was definitely bummed. However, this explanation makes me feel a lot better about the decision - deferred, not abandoned.
If I may include a possible mod suggestion, as Leonard is into poisons and being the Listener, perhaps a mod that enables the Khajiit Caravans to sell Jarrin Root could fit nicely. Sure it is insanely OP, but it may fit with him moving to such a poison made with the root being a last ditch effort of sorts to make those watching him fight a dragon seem far more powerful than he is. He seems the type to employ such misdirections possibly to give him a tad more gravitas with Jarls so guards would be a bit more lenient with his gathering habits.
Would you consider some other bulkier follower, Hoth per example, as a backup for harder fights where you require some muscle? Would be a bit harder to manage two followers but even then I believe Leonard would love a meat shield. Something else to consider is Courage and Rally on your followers. Fits the elegant illusion theme and also the "cheering from the sidelines" theme
Gopher, please don't change a thing! I absolutely love the way Leonard responds to these fights! They are very entertaining! I love the contrast between Richard's dragon fights and Leonard's; not all characters should be able to fight dragons the same way. Granted Leonard's way may be the most unconventional for Skyrim, but it's more realistic for the character, and quite comical for me. Love your videos Gopher, don't change!
I kinda want to see Gopher do a fight spanning up to a couple of episodes with his character just doing a monologue for the most part, and doing the classic anime flashbacks.
I would like to see Leonard continue as he has. No abridgements to dragon battles in any way, that's just my opinion. If anything changes, I would like them to be longer. Leonard has his own unique style and I really like it. This has been my favorite play through so far and I've seen them all. Keep up the great work, Gopher!
I just wanna say I love the depth and thought you put into your characters it really inspires me to make unique and more real characters with cool traits and roleplay.
I'm surprised Leonard hasn't realized the benefits of shouts yet. Sure, he needs to get dragon souls to unlock them, but even the first word for "Marked for Death" would be absolutely invaluable in any encounters, not just dragons. It just seems a bit silly to me that the only thing Leonard uses shouts for is avoiding getting wet (although he'll surely use shouts to clear out the rain often now that he can).
It's so awesome to hear how hard you've made the dragons, I never knew you made them so much more than just master difficulty Somethings I wish didn't scale as much, like poison resists in pretty basic goons, as Leonard is an undeniable master alchemist but dragons should be total tanks, armoured & heal & have fire attacks that force an army to take cover. Anything a humanoid mage can do, a dragon should be able to do bigger Surely everyone here actually comes to watch Gopher tell a story & Leonard is a masterpiece!
I do see Lenard trying conjuration and struggle with it to fight dragon's. Not always to attack but also sometimes as a distraction to just run away as well. Though that would be stretching skill points way to thin I would think.
I know this is old and I'm way behind, but I ADORE the dragon fights so far. Exciting and hilarious. Just, A++ would watch a million 40 min long Leonard dragon fights.
I kind of like the idea of Leonard spending his time paying the college guy to enchant multiple "Resist Element" gear, and (since magic still isn't natural for him) not thinking of a general purpose "Resist Magic" enchantment. You have multiple sets of special gear, but they're only really useful against specific breeds of Dragon. You can have a slightly quicker battle, but only if you happened to encounter a Dragon that matches whatever Leonard happened to prep for on this particular trip. Also, occasionally having Leonard have an easier time with a Dragon would most likely puff up his ego, only to have it horribly and hilariously crushed when the next Dragon doesn't line up with his preparations. (Also would work as a decent money sink, because Leonard pretty much has no real need for money anymore, which really kills his original motivations as a thief. Could you imagine Leonard's reaction to finding out he's spent his entire savings trying to make himself Dragon-proof, and not only does it not completely work, but he's completely broke? Leonard's dilemma of trying to hide that he's a penniless Thane?)
i love this aspect of Leonard, the handicap that comes with highly specialized characters keeps things interesting. goes without saying i hope, but keep doing you, Gopher.
Very in favor of powerful dragons over here - the vanilla dragons that lose to bears are patently absurd. Also, I gotta say I really appreciate the effort you put into roleplaying and getting into character! Too many backseat gamers on YT (and many LPers) basically just want to munchkin the game and get all the best gear and be a stealth archer, so it's great to see someone really developing a character with personality. I also love seeing the main quest played by a character who's the complete opposite of what the MQ actually calls for. Looking forward to a long playthrough! :D
I know this is late and a necro - watching the whole series rn as I replay a new modlist and... I find those fights hilarious :D Yes, they are kind of a tedium to watch at times, when you just think "if he only became a little bit better in archery, at least his crossbow would do damage" but at the same time I enjoy the in-character vibes this gives ^^
Mr. Gopher, may I just say that I am absolutely honoured you mentioned my extraordinary sarcasm in one of your videos. I had no idea you were modding to increase Dragon difficulty. The only things I would add to these ideas, and they are great ideas, is to mod to make Dragon encounters Hella infrequent, as well as actually having Lenny realize at some point, that when he hears a Dragon off in the distance, that theme music isn't the Dragon's. That theme music is the theme of The Dragonborne! Ideally, Lenny will basically just realize it and allow it to embolden him into actually attacking a Dragon one time, and possibly use that experience to become slightly less avoidy or hesitant in future! Not allow him to become the ultimate Warrior or Slayer or Hero, just a little bolder, or using the theme music to talk himself into actually being a slight bit of hero from time to time, even if not to benefit anyone but himself. It would probably be hilarious to see Lenny gather all his housecarls across Skyrim to do Dragon battle too! Or, how many Merc's is Lenny willing to actually pay to help him fight a Dragon, before having to go recruit his own housecarls? Either which way, or any other, appreciate it Sir!
You play Leonard's story the way you intend. Wouldn't want you to change his character traits for anything. Leonard's development has been absolutely entertaining. Well done and always looking forward to the next episode. This is character story, not game story as much. Edit: After I posted this, another thought occurred to me, and that is that I wouldn't be at all opposed to one day in the future, seeing Leonard & Inigo strike out all across Tamriel when their character stories have been taken as far as they can go in Skyrim. Ah... the possibilities for looting & more funny mayhem, & story telling...
So, I've been slowly working my way through the old play through. Finished Stiv, and now I'm on Richard. Something from chapter 2 part 3(1/2) just felt like a call forward. "This might well be the most cowardly way of fighting a dragon" Richard 2013, "Hold my Mead" Leonard 2019.
I made this after episode 27 (chapter 5) but decided to not release it until the chapter was over, to reduce possible 'spoiler-ish' speculation as to where this chapter was heading :)
In all honesty, I am hoping that there will be a version of Deadly Dragons that doesn't require SkyUI because I am one of those shmucks that has CC content (the ones that are absolutely recommended, like Forgotten Seasons and Pets of Skyrim), and I honestly don't want to temporarilly stop my own Let's Play because of every Skyrim SE update when using skse64.
What I mean by that is, I would like to have the dragon fights just as hard for my character, just don't want to go through all of the hoops.
So... Leonard isn't going to realise that poisons stack then? I don't mind the dragon fights, because you're so freaking good at playing him as incompetent at archery... I cried with laughter at the first dragon fight... but I was honestly looking forward to seeing him deal with the two dragons at the dig site. And does this put the LOTD on hold for now?
i do agree that the fights shouldnt be easier especially for leonard love his character though it can get a little dull if half an ep is 1 dragon fight slowly plinking away not sure what would work but i dont think sacrificing the fear and power a dragon brings is the answer
I think the complaint is less kind to the length of the fight, and more with the frequency of them. Because Skyrim has a lot of dragons, and if every 5 episodes you lose about half the episode to fighting a dragon, that's a tenth of a series watching someone pull out a crossbow and plink a dragon until it takes pity and lies down to die.
Personally, I feel like installing a mod for less frequent dragon attacks would allow you to keep having dragons be an apocalyptic threat, while avoiding making them bog down the episodes too often.
After that, I'm wondering if you could enable something to have him attack dragons in a wider array of methods, but the less frequent dragon attacks would probably work.
I didn't think an explanation from you was necessary, Gopher. Leonard's style is exactly that.. "Duck and run" when it comes to anything that he can't kill with poisons. But if you are intending to try something to fit into your game without taking too much away from the current style of dealing with Dragons, why not go get some Dragon companions like Odahviing and that undead Dragon from the Dawnguard DLC? Plus, you can learn the "Marked For Death" shout to weaken the dragons and also, if you aim that shout carelessly, you could hit Inigo and more comedy might ensue. Just my thoughts. Take care.
I was the one who left that "Fights one dragon for 40 minutes comment" and I just wanted to clear up that I was and am well aware of the roleplay and was just making a silly joke, I actually really like how Leonard handles Dragons... you know... like a normal effing person, which is to say screaming and running away and seeking help from others. Don't change a thing man, this is one of the most unique playthroughs I've ever watched.
Thank you so much for chiming in. :)
Yes, thank you for clairifying.
Jokes on the Internets can easily be taken the wrong way.
Edit: Now, if only Gopher would also find this comment. : P
For the record, I didn't take it badly. As I said, I can image it actually feels longer with the way Leonard fights. Richard actually had dragon fights that lasted an hour, but they were much more exciting because Richard actually fought them.
Nice Save. ;)
Honestly, I thought it was pretty funny watching leonard make dragons the problem of as many people as possible
Aye. I've got no complaints with this play through. I think Leonard is just perfect.
Me to that fight was so funny, and I think it is great that Leonard is someone who pounces from the shadows rather that goes in screaming and welding a big axe. Mind you there is plenty of screaming.
forgemaster Garzhvog I agree! It's refreshing to watch a character that's not a hulky tank and can hit the dragon the face without blinking.
100% agree
Have people not been paying attention through the rest of this playthrough?
"I can't use a fire spell, I might burn my hand!"
Personally, Leonard arriving at the top of the Throat of the World and the whole "OMG, a dragon!" and promptly running away was hilarious.
Gopher, please DO NOT shorten the Dragon fights. The "No, no, no! Not doing it," attitude of Leonard (when it comes to fighting Dragons) is what makes this playthrough.
I honestly think that you should ask your viewers in tonight's stream, whether you should abridge the fights. I think a lot of them will say, "No."
I won't shorten the fights, but I may cut the footage a little more to save time for the viewer whilst still trying to get across Leonards frustration and fear. Just leave the more 'salient' or entertaining bits.
You could also throw in the occasional scene of him telling the fight as a story to someone.
“And so i heroically drew my bow”
*cut to panicked screaming for shadowmere”
“And set about fighting the beast all by myself. Inigo was there too”
*cut to him hiding in a tent in a bandit camp yelling ‘did you kill it!?’*
“It was over in moments”
*a cut to him absorbing the soul breathing heavily in pitch blackness. ‘You know inigo, it was morning when we got stuck here’*
Sorta like your opener with Astrid.
That kinda thing could get you at least two or three fights condensed down to a few minutes.
darkdiashi This is a very good idea.
@@CosmereInformant LOL! I can see that happen from time to time. Good idea.
@@GophersVids thanks, I think that will be best of both worlds. It's more fun when more stuff happens during one episode than just 1 dragon fight.
I can imagine Leonard assemble all of his Housecarl and a small army of mercenaries, going up to the top of Throat of the World only to find out that the dragon is actually Paarthunax :-)
That would be funny. lol. And it would make sense considering how chapter 5 ended.
@@gadman85 but still....there has to be a reason for him to bother to go up there when he thinks paarthunax was eaten alive up there...let alone a reason to go to the greybeards again
It would be even funnyer if he joined the legion. Ended the war. And hoped thayed lend him support.
@@Ko700el It is still the only way to learn 'Dragonrend'. I think there will come a point sooner or latter where Leonard will (no matter how begrudgingly) need that Shout even if Paarthunax was eaten by a dragon.
Personally i like the dragon fights its fun seeing leonard being so out of his depth. Hope other people agree but each to their own
I feel the same way. I find easy dragon fights unwatchable.
@@theocratickingdom30 Totally agree. What's the point in possibly the strongest enemy in the game being a pushover?
@@Genesis23OPB What if gopher warned us about dragon fights if they are too long if you wanted to skip it (a time stamp or something)? Now i dont think this should be a thing but each to their own :)
@@Genesis23OPB I want them to be damage sponges. You are shooting a crossbow at a massive dragon. It should take a ton of bolts to kill it. But, I can see how that'd be painful to watch.
I remember one of the Dragon fights from Richard took almost an entire episode, I was not surprised with the long fights with Dragons with Leonard.
Aye. I think the majority of us knew what we were getting into when we allowed ourselves to fall in love with... err... well, Inigo, anyway. Leonard is like pre-kids Gru of Despicable Me. He's just wicked enough to mitigate the guilt I feel enjoying his suffering.
oh god, you mean the wodden shack in the middle of nowhere?
That was sooo... everything, really
I seem to remember that taking longer than one episode. May have to go back and re-watch it.
texteel that one exactly
One of my favorite memories from that chapter of Richard, especially when he snapped at Vilkas, died laughing honestly.
This chapter's ending was probably my favourite. It was unexpected, but fit Leonard perfectly. I'm really excited to see where you go next. I hope the series won't end anytime soon.
It all makes perfect sense for Leonard. That said, the long fights haven't bothered me personally so long as you've got some sort of dialogue going at the same time. We get to hear the fear and awe rattling around in poor Lenny's head.
And random Inigo quips. Lol
Its also worth noting that even the Canon Dragonborn from the trailers is aware of how dangerous dragons are. In the original trailer he only fights one head on because he's been cornered at the edge of a cliff.
Canon
@@ShaolinDL Canonborn.
@@TheEndKing On the day of my birth I shot out of my mother like a cannonball thus I was bequeathed the name Canonborn.
Remember Richards epic fight in Steamcrag Camp? Leonard still has to break this record.
I absolutely love the way Leonard maneuvers in these types of fights. It’s brilliant and not something that I’ve ever thought about doing. It just fits and this video just emphasizes Leonard’s mentality so well.
That ending was just hilarious 😂
I think the problem is with people perceiving it as intentionally failing at the game, IGN Cuphead, and not seeing the fact that you are telling a story/"TV" show with the game.
o thought it was funny too love watching it when Leonard runs and yells for his side kicks lol 😂
I'm remembering a certain dragon fight from Richard with a Green dragon that was like an entire episode 45 min and 15 min of the next XD I thought that was fine and enjoyable to watch when that came out lol
That fight was Epic!
Personally I love the way you've modded the dragons. That's how tough they should feel, according to all the Lore about them, and especially for someone like Leonard, as you say. I haven't found any of the dragon encounters boring. For example, the fight that ended with Delphine being tossed over a mountain and Leonard being deep-frozen was brilliant and hilarious.
Totally agree!
I find Leonard's terror while Dragon fighting to be highly entertaining.
And appropriate.
Lenny was written and performed perfectly. I was there to see how the bloody bowless thief would face a dragon and I was very pleased with the answer: he won't.
Keep up the magnificent work, Gopher!
Imagining a Leonard the Dragonslayer 80s style training montage with the Greybeards
🤣🎼🎵we need a montage🎶
I watch a huge number of Gopher's videos but I've never watched more than the occasional episode of his _Let's Plays._ Same as I don't watch livestreams it's just not my sort of thing, but the Leonard Let's Play has completely captivated me, it's opened my eyes to these sort of playthroughs and videos, I find myself checking my sub feed every day hoping for a new episode which is extremely out of character.
So, in other words... the Leonard Let's Play is flippin' fantastic and doesn't require any explanation nor changes, IMO.
I hope Leonard will consider his army of huscarls to deal with the two dragons or he will get an army up there somehow. I am curious what the two dragons are guarding. :3
Do not change a single thing. The 45 minute battles are absolutely hilarious and this is the best lets play i've seen for a long time.
That fight was brilliant! I noticed your efforts to cut stuff out, but still, I laughed and actually felt inspired to set my Deadly Dragons settings to insane. Also showed the fight to my boyfriend and he laughed the whole time too. Keep doing what you are doing because I truly believe most of us are perfectly okay with your dragon fights.
I love the way Leonard finds his ways through Skyrim. In fact, through him, I had a bunch of new ideas for my next characters. I'm not quite sure how those ideas will play out, but this is a story for another time. For the moment I enjoy my kind-of warrior like Altmer mage, who is literally completely unable to sneak, pick a pocket or has any idea what she is supposed to do with a lockpick.
I just want every fight to "end" with Leonard asking "Is that the Groundskeeper" or "is that Delphine" or some variation.
One of the reasons I’ve been a follower all these years is that as a creator, you are true to your stories. Your talent as a storyteller has grown into mastery, and your Leonard is a delight. Not to mention he has a dashing fashion sense! I think this was successful, in line with Leonard’s abilities, and there’s a ff button for anyone who needs it. So. Do what’s right for the story.
You've got nothing to atone for. You play Leonard precisely in-character at all times, and as far as I'm concerned, the consistency is appreciated. It makes the whole of the story more compelling as he experiences it. I have to compliment you on his encounter with Parthurnax. Brief though it was, that was 100% Leonard and great fun. Keep up the good work, sir.
I would just like to see Leonard thinking through all his options. Like Enchanting his crossbow and considering using spells like his Lucien LaChance summon.
The only dragon fight that I felt dragged on far too long was the winterhold college one. But this was NOT your fault, this was because of the fact it was NIGHT, and nobody else was awake/engaged.
Honestly I think that the fact Leonard is so terrified in those situations is the best part of the series. I generally listen to the episodes like podcasts with them playing in the background of whatever I’m doing as opposed to watching them, so the commentary and internal dialogue is what makes it engaging for me.
Some of us love Leonard just as he is including his self-preservationist, danger-avoidance, walk/ride everywhere personality! Gopher, not the game, is actually the entertainment. It's the journey, not the destination, that counts. Keep up the good work and long videos :-)
Just keep going Gopher, I’m in mad love with this series and its so great to hear that you’re no where near the end !
I don't know who is making these complaints, but I'm enjoying the hell out of this Lenord playthrough as it is. Funny as hell.
DO NOT Stop Leonard and his STORY. Gopher, you are telling a story of a segment of Leonard's life. Do not skip his growth. I really enjoy it. If someone does not like his slow growth, they can just skip the episode. I love it and laugh and smile. Anxious to see how he progresses. GO GOPHER, GO LEONARD!
Hey Gopher! I find the way Leonard fights dragons absolutely hilarious and entertaining. Of course a dragon should never be so easy to take down.
The issue is that I think dragons spawn too frequently in Vanilla Skyrim which makes one think "Oh there comes another dragon.", making them just another generic enemy. Perhaps using a mod that takes down the dragon spawn frequency a bit will help. I find it slightly irksome that once the dragon spawns it keeps following the player character around so the player can't really escape the fight when they don't feel like it.
It'd also be great to see Leonard become more inventive in his ways of dragon-slaying. I am not sure if there's a mod that'd allow you to set up and deploy some traps and then lure the dragons into them. Using a followers mod to allow you to recruit a small force of guards/npcs to fight the dragon is also another suggestion.
Gopher, I've enjoyed your videos for years and am proud to suport you on Patreon. I rarely comment on videos, but let me say this: Leonard is your finest work to date. There's no question in my mind. I know you felt it important to address the comments of the viewers, but keep doing exactly what you're doing with this Let's Play. What sets you apart from most of the others is the care and planning, the forethought, that you're putting in your narrative choices. There are others that do this as well, but not many. Most are just playing. You're doing far more that just role playing; you're crafting a story within the Skyrim framework in a way that's unique, and bloody brilliant as far as I'm concerned. Please keep doing exactly what you're doing.
Can't wait for the dragon backstab
It can be done, if the Dragon is caught sleeping. ; )
I enjoyed the college fight as it was absolutely in-character for Leonard. And it allowed for some really funny moments (really, you're going to sweep up now?).
I'm here for the entertainment of it all!! Love your play throughs. I've never played Skyrim or any other game. My kids were watching the play through of Richard and I started seeing a little here and there and before long I was hooked. I look forward to every video. Please keep doing what you are doing. LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!
Totally unrelated but : In this reality the Archmage of the College is essentially just a non magical conman.
Untrue! Leonard knows magic. Some of it. A little bit. Did you not see him make that Sweetroll float?!
Gopher I’ve been watching you for 5+ years and your mastery & skill at telling a story never ceases to amaze me, you truly have a gift & i just wanted to say thank you for all that you do to entertain us
I actually find the long Dragon fights with Leonard hysterical and terribly funny. My wife and I laugh a lot while watching Gophers Leonard play through. So Gopher, for what its worth, your making one HELL of a great play through.
"I can cut more of it out."
Don't you dare!
definitely if Leonard had to deal with a dragon at some point, like with the two in the valley, amassing a small army would be the best option. one might say "oh, but that's CHEESE!", forgetting that Leonard is absolutely the type of person who would cheese a dragon if given the chance.
gopher: "--and i'm planning quite a lot with Leonard"
me: holy heck thank you lord
It feels like if Leonard winds up going to solestiem and getting caught up with the business there, he might feel more empowered to face dragons thanks to the shouts he will gain.
What you are doing is great Gopher, Lenny is sooo enternaining ! I love him just the way he is. Keep up the good work dear Gopher. Kisses from France 😁❤
I honestly think some viewers didn't/don't realize how this playthrough has been modded. I love it. I am enjoying this playthrough quite alot.
Leonard is such a great character and your roleplaying is perfect!
You are doing a great job Gopher. I like the way leonard is its funny i love getting a good laugh. I really enjoyed the ending and cant wait for more. The dragon fights are understandable to me when looking from leonards point of view. keep up the awesome work and dont stress have fun.
I mean, I'm only 1 person, but Leonard and Inigo is my favourite playthrough you've done and if it were to end I'd be really sad. Also, I didn't mind the fight because you keep him in character and you talk...well wail and it keeps those long fights really funny and entertaining.
Note about Deadly Dragons' Assault System. That is separate from Vanilla's radiant dragon encounter. You will still get encounters from vanilla, but at least you won't get a sudden assault from Deadly Dragons.
Honestly for me, the poison buff mod was what kicked it over the edge from 'Incredibly difficult fight with someone who isn't built for this kind of thing at all' to 'sheer drudgery to sit through'
Leonard's character is brilliantly constructed. His difficulty in dragon-slaying not only makes sense, but I find it awfully entertaining. I'd have no issue watching the full fight, were it to be included... In fact, I would quite enjoy it
I absolutely love this play through!! Please don’t change it!
How on earth are you explaining why you're roleplaying in an RPG?
There are a lot of times when it feels like he's doing a let's play over roleplaying, because a lot of stuff doesn't sound right for roleplaying. (like calling the Shout/Thuum for Whirlwind "a wizzy thing"...) It feels like he occasionally breaks immersion, I get that he tries his best to roleplay but the way I see it he's just doesn't.
Why does a character who tends towards flippant moments (partly because he's a smartarse, partly because he's a bit defensive about things he's either not good at, or doesn't quite understand, IMO) having a silly name for a shout not sound right for roleplaying? Sure, Gopher's poking fun at some of the mechanics or sillier parts of the quest writing/design sometimes, but IMO he stays in character perfectly well, and remains definitely on the right side of the fourth wall, just bumps into it occasionally, and goes 'argh'.
@@starilvara Exactly. That IS what role playing a character's personal traits are supposed to be. Gopher does Leonard's character traits superbly well. There is a big difference between just doing a Let's Play run through of a game without a story driven character, and a Role Play requiring the player character to have quirky character traits. Kind of like when movie & television actors go from one movie to another, they have to role play the character they are portraying in that particular movie. You see a lot of LP's on TH-cam, but few Role Plays with this level of character depth. Gopher has pulled this off very well. Have a great one out there!
The people using big tiddy vampire gf mods are getting impatient.
I mean that wouldn't make any sense if Skyrim was actually an RPG... which it is not.
A couple o' years after you did this. But I am currently watching through the series. And I thought of it taking all that time fitting perfectly with Leonard. You have created this beautifully. I agree it was taking an absurd amount of time to what we skyrim players are used too. But I have never got to play as beautifully as you do with your characters. Keep it going mate!
Lenny having a natural human reaction to a dragon is the whole reason I love him so much. His character is so amazingly normal yet not normal. Willing to get power for himself like artifacts and even killing/thieving for coin.
He's one of the most interesting characters I honestly believe you've made so far and I've been here since your first skyrim playthrough.
Keep up the good work, I absolutely love Lenny and how you play out each of your characters. Never change a thing ❤
It really feels like Leonard should have a quest where he can get more guards patrolling the roads. Or more skirmishes of the imperials and storm cloaks that could turn on a dragon should one appear. You know the skirmish breaks out they're fighting each other dragon shows up they fight it then they disband because they've lost so many on both sides. Seems like a more friendly way to handle dragons.also it would make navigating a little bit more funny when you run across stormcloaks and imperials and you have to find a way around them. Forcing you into fighting a troll or whatever just to get around them.
I really like the personality Gopher has given Leonard. His feeling of self-importance and wanting to be thane of all holds is well offset by his absolute fear of facing dragons. It's a good mix and the times when he is forced to face a dragon are very comedic and enjoyable. I would like to see the few dragon souls he collects lead to deep consideration of what shouts to use them to unlock. Particularly, I would like to see Leonard get the Throw Voice shout because I think it could be useful for sneaking, but as I recall, the dragon that unlocks that shout was pretty hard to defeat and easy to run away from, so maybe that won't happen.
I LOVE the long dragon fights! Keep ‘em coming! 💜
Hi Gopher, I was wondering is this going to mean that the museum story is going to be ended there? as it seems to not let you do any other quests without killing them two dragons, and by your own admission, He would run away from any dragon, and in this case it is two of them?
In comparison to that one episode where Richard fought 2 dragons while huddled in a hut for the entire length of a one hour episode, Leonard got this done quickly :P
That wasn't exactly a lot of fun to watch, either. =9[.]9=
Dragons *SHOULD* be mighty, dangerous, and unyielding. Killing a dragon in 25 minutes should be a feat, logically speaking. Watching how strong and cool and lethal the dragons you are fighting is fun.
Those people complaining should just play ez mode and slay the dragons themselves, smh.
PLUS, those with shield and bravado, charging head first fighting these dragons, are realistically dumb.
@@BoyBlunder66 But it was 25 minutes-ish
@@BoyBlunder66 And it was fun to watch, except for a select few who complained.
@@BoyBlunder66 Oh. You are talking *in general.* Yeah. Idk, not sure if that's true or false.
My points stand, though, dragons should be tough and lethal (lore fact). Killing it fast is boring (individual opinion). Be it Gopher or others. I left other's Skyrim LP because their dragon fights are too brief.
But, if Gopher (or anyone) struggles to kill one single non-dragon (and non-colossi) enemy for 30 mins or more, then you are right, in general it would be tedious and boring.
Remember Shadow of Colossus? Those damned *giant* damage sponges are fun to fight, except for that one sand serpent that hides alot.
Unfortunately, the ultra-long dragon fights still get pretty tedious because, somewhat ironically, very little actually happens even though you're engaging in life-or-death combat. I can see how it makes sense for Leonard's character, but that doesn't make it any less tedious to watch.
I grant that you manage to do as good a job as anyone probably could to make them entertaining despite that, what with the banter and all. But even so, I really do appreciate how you've used mods to drastically reduce how many dragon attacks there are. The rest of the series is much more fun to watch than the dragon fights, so it's good that you focus more on that.
People are incredibly .... -.- We all KNOW that YOU could get such a Dragon down in a Heartbeat, but we have Lenny here....and it was awesome to watch how you really stayed in Character and struggled with that Situation! I really enjoyed it, and i bet the majority of People did...so please make us the Lenny like u intended and don't let these inpatient Folks get to you (= Have a Sweetroll! (=
I was so looking forward to seeing how Gopher would maneuver Leonard through the character development to get to the point of being able to take down Alduin, that then I realized the chapter was over, I was definitely bummed.
However, this explanation makes me feel a lot better about the decision - deferred, not abandoned.
It is way more exciting than watching reverse pickpocketing of poison...so keep it up!
If I may include a possible mod suggestion, as Leonard is into poisons and being the Listener, perhaps a mod that enables the Khajiit Caravans to sell Jarrin Root could fit nicely. Sure it is insanely OP, but it may fit with him moving to such a poison made with the root being a last ditch effort of sorts to make those watching him fight a dragon seem far more powerful than he is. He seems the type to employ such misdirections possibly to give him a tad more gravitas with Jarls so guards would be a bit more lenient with his gathering habits.
I like the dragon fights do not wanna see them shortened. Keep up the great work.
Would you consider some other bulkier follower, Hoth per example, as a backup for harder fights where you require some muscle? Would be a bit harder to manage two followers but even then I believe Leonard would love a meat shield.
Something else to consider is Courage and Rally on your followers. Fits the elegant illusion theme and also the "cheering from the sidelines" theme
I can't believe people complained. That was one of my favorite Gopher Skyrim episodes ever. It was hilarious and monumentally entertaining.
Love this story line so much. Keep it up Gopher
Gopher, please don't change a thing! I absolutely love the way Leonard responds to these fights! They are very entertaining! I love the contrast between Richard's dragon fights and Leonard's; not all characters should be able to fight dragons the same way. Granted Leonard's way may be the most unconventional for Skyrim, but it's more realistic for the character, and quite comical for me.
Love your videos Gopher, don't change!
I kinda want to see Gopher do a fight spanning up to a couple of episodes with his character just doing a monologue for the most part, and doing the classic anime flashbacks.
I would like to see Leonard continue as he has. No abridgements to dragon battles in any way, that's just my opinion.
If anything changes, I would like them to be longer. Leonard has his own unique style and I really like it.
This has been my favorite play through so far and I've seen them all. Keep up the great work, Gopher!
I just wanna say I love the depth and thought you put into your characters it really inspires me to make unique and more real characters with cool traits and roleplay.
I'm surprised Leonard hasn't realized the benefits of shouts yet. Sure, he needs to get dragon souls to unlock them, but even the first word for "Marked for Death" would be absolutely invaluable in any encounters, not just dragons. It just seems a bit silly to me that the only thing Leonard uses shouts for is avoiding getting wet (although he'll surely use shouts to clear out the rain often now that he can).
It's so awesome to hear how hard you've made the dragons, I never knew you made them so much more than just master difficulty
Somethings I wish didn't scale as much, like poison resists in pretty basic goons, as Leonard is an undeniable master alchemist but dragons should be total tanks, armoured & heal & have fire attacks that force an army to take cover. Anything a humanoid mage can do, a dragon should be able to do bigger
Surely everyone here actually comes to watch Gopher tell a story & Leonard is a masterpiece!
Respect for keeping it real & immersive 👍
I am genuinely so excited about continuation of Leonard's story.
I still feel Lenard could try and "shout" at least, that's all.
I am really enjoying you 'Leonard' playthrough! Waiting impatiently for chapter 6.
I do see Lenard trying conjuration and struggle with it to fight dragon's. Not always to attack but also sometimes as a distraction to just run away as well. Though that would be stretching skill points way to thin I would think.
Your videos are a part of my daily routine right before sleep time. I really like Leonard and Inigo. Currently on Chapter 3.
I know this is old and I'm way behind, but I ADORE the dragon fights so far. Exciting and hilarious. Just, A++ would watch a million 40 min long Leonard dragon fights.
You do you boo! Love your adhesion to role playing.
I kind of like the idea of Leonard spending his time paying the college guy to enchant multiple "Resist Element" gear, and (since magic still isn't natural for him) not thinking of a general purpose "Resist Magic" enchantment. You have multiple sets of special gear, but they're only really useful against specific breeds of Dragon. You can have a slightly quicker battle, but only if you happened to encounter a Dragon that matches whatever Leonard happened to prep for on this particular trip. Also, occasionally having Leonard have an easier time with a Dragon would most likely puff up his ego, only to have it horribly and hilariously crushed when the next Dragon doesn't line up with his preparations. (Also would work as a decent money sink, because Leonard pretty much has no real need for money anymore, which really kills his original motivations as a thief. Could you imagine Leonard's reaction to finding out he's spent his entire savings trying to make himself Dragon-proof, and not only does it not completely work, but he's completely broke? Leonard's dilemma of trying to hide that he's a penniless Thane?)
i love this aspect of Leonard, the handicap that comes with highly specialized characters keeps things interesting. goes without saying i hope, but keep doing you, Gopher.
I really enjoyed that fight.
It was refreshing, hilarious and believable.
Thank you very much.
I remember Richard fighting a dragon around a mountain for at least 45 minutes, it was an awesome experience.
Very in favor of powerful dragons over here - the vanilla dragons that lose to bears are patently absurd.
Also, I gotta say I really appreciate the effort you put into roleplaying and getting into character! Too many backseat gamers on YT (and many LPers) basically just want to munchkin the game and get all the best gear and be a stealth archer, so it's great to see someone really developing a character with personality.
I also love seeing the main quest played by a character who's the complete opposite of what the MQ actually calls for. Looking forward to a long playthrough! :D
I know this is late and a necro - watching the whole series rn as I replay a new modlist and... I find those fights hilarious :D
Yes, they are kind of a tedium to watch at times, when you just think "if he only became a little bit better in archery, at least his crossbow would do damage" but at the same time I enjoy the in-character vibes this gives ^^
Gopher, I loves the content and the story is brilliant Leonards character always makes me chuckle
Mr. Gopher, may I just say that I am absolutely honoured you mentioned my extraordinary sarcasm in one of your videos. I had no idea you were modding to increase Dragon difficulty. The only things I would add to these ideas, and they are great ideas, is to mod to make Dragon encounters Hella infrequent, as well as actually having Lenny realize at some point, that when he hears a Dragon off in the distance, that theme music isn't the Dragon's. That theme music is the theme of The Dragonborne!
Ideally, Lenny will basically just realize it and allow it to embolden him into actually attacking a Dragon one time, and possibly use that experience to become slightly less avoidy or hesitant in future! Not allow him to become the ultimate Warrior or Slayer or Hero, just a little bolder, or using the theme music to talk himself into actually being a slight bit of hero from time to time, even if not to benefit anyone but himself.
It would probably be hilarious to see Lenny gather all his housecarls across Skyrim to do Dragon battle too! Or, how many Merc's is Lenny willing to actually pay to help him fight a Dragon, before having to go recruit his own housecarls? Either which way, or any other, appreciate it Sir!
I thought the caliber of Leonard's character was evident fairly early in this series. Can't believe you felt you had to explain it.
You play Leonard's story the way you intend. Wouldn't want you to change his character traits for anything. Leonard's development has been absolutely entertaining. Well done and always looking forward to the next episode. This is character story, not game story as much. Edit: After I posted this, another thought occurred to me, and that is that I wouldn't be at all opposed to one day in the future, seeing Leonard & Inigo strike out all across Tamriel when their character stories have been taken as far as they can go in Skyrim. Ah... the possibilities for looting & more funny mayhem, & story telling...
So, I've been slowly working my way through the old play through. Finished Stiv, and now I'm on Richard. Something from chapter 2 part 3(1/2) just felt like a call forward. "This might well be the most cowardly way of fighting a dragon" Richard 2013, "Hold my Mead" Leonard 2019.
i love how you play Leonard, if there's a dragon fight i usually skim it until its finished. Can't wait for chapter 6!
I love Leonard the Reluctant: you are a consummate Story Teller Sir
I think the way you are doing things with leonard doesn't need to be changed.I am very much enjoying this playthrough.