I fly Delta almost exclusively (as I live near ATL) and I'm a long-time Boeing fan... but the 321neo will be a great addition to their fleet! Congrats to both Delta and Airbus.
I live near ATL too. I flew a Delta A321 DCA -ATL in 2019 and was very impressed with its cabin comfort and ambiance. Mood lighting and seat back IFE’s were great touches to the cabin.
@An Phuc it certainly looks that way. Delta has 0 orders for new Boeing aircraft, although they will be adding 29 used 737-900ER aircraft in the near future. They currently have 254 new orders on the books, all various Airbus aircraft.
Delta is so heavily invested in the 757/767 series that it's a big step away from them. Boeing certainly misjudged the time they had to develop a replacement for them. They are their own worst enemy. I worked on a great many Boeing airframes & it's so disappointing to see where they're at now.
Delta isn't waiting on Boeing at this point. Even if it announced the launch of 797 tomorrow, It would be at least 7-8 years before it could be delivered in any volume. That's beyond that window for replacing the aircraft.
@@declannewton2556 well maybe Boeing shouldn't have antagonised it's customer by going crying to the US Gov't after they bought the C Series the first time around
@@AnishAbraham Exactly. It's one thing to claim the playing field is not level, but it's ridiculous when Boeing already receives a ton of preferential treatment (e.g., subsidies, regulation, military contracts) and does not even offer a product in the segment anymore (e.g., 717).
The most shocking thing about this in my mind is related to Boeing. How on earth did they blow it so bad that they have nothing to compete with the A321 NEO? The entire Management Team at Boeing should be thrown out. Thrown out with no golden parachute, no big your fired multimillion dollar bonus. They have completely wrecked an American icon.
Well, they have the 737-MAX10 to compete with the A321NEO. That's what United chose. They have nothing comparing to the A321Neo's longer range versions, though.
@@pocketdynamo5787 What about a 737 MAX 12 ? I'm sure that is there next solution to their problems. How Boeing could basically give away their commercial aviation business to Airbus shocks me.
@@mp4373 don't even think about it, what Boeing gonna do to lengthen the range of their already pushed to limit 737? Best scenario in my opinion is Boeing re-engine the 757, but that won't be happening anytime soon.
Just another reason why I fly with Delta exclusively. I am now paying attention to what aircraft I am flying on. I have lost faith in Boeing and I feel much safer on Airbus aircraft...I hope Delta goes all Airbus someday.
I think it's great. If Boeing doesn't want to do anything about longtime customers' aging 757/767 fleets, their customers should be free to choose whatever option is available to them.
Boeing’s new aircraft are consistently the safest in the world. The 777’s only fatal accidents in nearly 30 years of service and almost 1700 built have been a result of pretty much everything else EXCEPT Boeing. For a long time the 777 never had a fatal accident whatsoever, and was the poster child of commercial aviation safety. I believe it still is. Rolls Royce had engine issues, Asiana had pilot training issues, the Russians shot one down, and a Malaysian pilot did something to deliberately crash one into the ocean. There have been zero fatal accidents involving the 787 despite 10 years and over 1,000 airframes in service. The same things cannot be said about Airbus’ comparable aircraft, the A330, which had an accident cause primarily by a fundamental system featured on ALL Airbus aircraft. The A350 is still too new to really judge, though I’m sure it will prove an extremely safe platform. Boeing’s problems with the 737 were largely caused by the unsuitability of the platform to the upgrades they were trying to make at the request of their airline customers like Southwest.
It's great that a US airline is going so hard into a massive Airbus fleet, which generally bucks the trend for American carriers as they traditionally go for Boeing aircraft. I don't think they will be the only airline to go down this route either, especially those who used to use the 757 a lot.
The A321neo gives Delta operational flexibility for domestic, transcon and international short and medium markets. Delta is waiting to see what Boeing is going to do with the NMA/B797.
How long can they wait? Even if an announcement is made today, it will be 5-7 years before this comes to market. Possibly even longer, given the stricter post MAX certification testing, and if the 797 contains new technologies
@@AnishAbraham Even if they ordered the A321 XLR today the 757 would be flying for that long anyway because they have a lot to replace. It may be that they're looking into ordering both types as replacements and want a timeline and specifications from Boeing to decide on numbers of each.
Delta has expressed skepticism over the A321 LR/XLR models. They don't believe the economics, specifically pilot compensation, are favorable on transatlantic service at that scale.
Surprisingly, the Max made a comeback. And Boeing is determined to keep pushing the 737. They should have updated the 757. They are definitely trailing Airbus now.
@@FallacyAsPraxis It seems surprisingly difficult to understand but the 757 was already tormented and starved and choked and drowned by the A321 (among others) in the late 1990s. BACK THEN it's sales had become so poor that Boeing decided to abandon the product, closed the line in Renton and scrapped the machinery in 2004.
Personally I think Delta is getting tired of all the Boeings delays and failures. I think it's a good smart move on Delta's part to make the move to more Airbus's.
@@aviatorsound914 didn't even say they have 737 MAX, what I mean by newer 737s is their 737s that is delivered in 2016-2019, Delta also adding more 737-900ERs in 2022.
In terms of 767-300 replacement, I just read the other day that Airbus is in the works in a a330-800neo “light” version… less range & payload than the std a330-800neo due to the sales being so low, but I think it would fit the dynamic of Delta’s current 767-300er if Boeing doesn’t offer anything new soon
No matter how light airbus make the A330-800, it will still hard to replace the B767-300ER. It is significantly smaller and lighter despite being years older than the A330-200.
@@caribbaviator7058 yes It is. Seating capacity wise the largest B767-400 is only equivalent to the A330-200. The B767-300ER equivalent is the A300 while the smallest B767-200ER variant is equivalent to the A310. Physical size wise, although the B767 fuselage is only one seat per row smaller, it is 1/8 or 12. 5% smaller. The heaviest part of the A330-200 /800 is unfortunately its wings. The A330 has a class5 wing that it shared its structural commonality with the long range A340. The B767 on the other hand has a much smaller class 4 wing. All these various additional weights really makes the A330-200 /800 significantly bigger and heavier. For a more apple to apple comparison, if you compare the OWE of the A330-800 vs A300-600, you will find that the A300 weighs nearly half of the A330neo weight.
My Congrats on Delta Airlines receiving there New Airbus A321Neo jets I can't wait to see them operate on Transatlantic flights to The Caribbean Destinations in the upcoming years hopefully soon!!!!!
They need,help from somebody who is responsible and cares. My dream was to work on the company when I was little, know I am learning France too, you know.,
Airbus is the way to go for Delta. Commonality and differential to its major rivals in providing modern, comfortable, efficient and quiet fleet of aircraft.
I absolutely love the A321s Delta fly!!!! But i do believe that Delta should replace their A320s with the A220s instead but the A321s would better replace the 757s definitely!!!!!!!! But yea Delta should replace their A319s and A320s and their 738s with more A220s for sure
Didn’t Delta just acquire a large number of 739ER to replace the 738’s. As a crew member I am not a fan of the 737, I used to love the 320 family until they came up with the “flex space” galley. Now it’s just as bad as a 737-200.
@@flyguy212 quick question for you (because you said you’re a crew member) when flight attendants close the bins on the 739, why do they press like a latch on the side of the bin, and what does it even do?
Airbus is quite flexible when it comes to changing orders to the LR or XLR, so we don’t know for sure whether all aircraft delivered will be of the base variant
I agree. Airbus is sitting on the the A322 to see what Boeing is going to do with the NMA/B797. Once Boeing stops sitting on its hands and goes ahead, Airbus will launch the A322 with deliveries 2-3 years as oppose to 4-7 years for the B797, plus the A322 would be cheaper than the B797, as the necessary development would have been completed.
@@chrismckellar9350 I read that Airbus is going to re-wing the A321 as a stop gap measure in a couple of years to wait and see what Boeing will come up with while keeping the A320 family ahead. Then trump them with the next gen A320 afterwards once Boeing reveal their hands. Good move.
@@jace1113 yes, airbus is definitely having the upper hand in this duopoly fight. Airbus is controlling boeing's pace now like how a fighter is taunting his opponent in the ring. Airbus has made their punch with the A321XLR but boeing is not able to respond. Now airbus has made another punch with the A350F and waiting for boeing to respond again. My guess is that airbus is trying to lead boeing into committing to the B777X Freighter, and when boeing does that it will be another stretch for boeing to do the NMA at the same time. That is when airbus will probably strike again with the A322 as the B767-300ER replacement leaving boeing completely helpless in the NMA segment. The alternative outcome is boeing did not respond to the A350F attempts, in which case they will concede a portion of the Freighter market to airbus in which case boeing will be able to commit to the NMA when airbus make its next move. Either way, airbus did well in driving boeing into the corner. Boeing is bound to lose something, just a matter of big or small.
Crazy to think that Delta would go from an all-Boeing fleet to primarily Airbus in such a short time. DAL’s 757 and 767 airframes are pretty old as is, and cabin refreshes aside, aren’t exactly getting any younger. Give it a few years and all that will be left are the 737-900’s. Those are still new planes, but even then, their long-term future remains uncertain. 767X is the move. Can share development costs alongside the reworked freighter variant, better economies of scale, shorter time to bring to market. Supply chains and part networks are also more established.
I think you can officially say goodbye to the 757-200 and A320-200 planes. Many of those were bought by Northwest Airlines before they merged with Delta and need to be replaced. Delta may snap up as many used 737-900ER's as possible for use as A320 replacements.
Aviation market is changing, wide body acft will operates flghts over 10hrs till this flight tme they will change to narrowbody acft as IB & TP are doing with some flight fm europe to Brazil north coast., A321 XLR will receive ETOPS certifications and its DL'S excellent move
Not really related other then they moved forward with best available option. There is no 797 to order and would be 8 to 10 years before it could be delivered in any volume since the program isn't even launched. DL couldn't wait that long so went with the available options. And yes I'm sure DL has to option to convert to LR versions if they converent in a certain amount of time prior to planned delivery.
Delta also has 11 A330-900s and 26 on order so that may account for replacement of some 767s. At this point I think Boeing is out of the picture for any DL orders since they delayed the 797 so long. Delta was really gung ho on having input for that one, but it seems that they have moved on to Airbus.
I think Delta is waiting for a wide body 797 which Boeing is probably going to convert the 787-3 which they never came out with. Wide body is the way to go internationally
It's all a matter of dollars and cents to accommodate its routes needs and rejuvenate its fleet. There is a second hand market that will absorb the older jets. It's unfortunate the 757 was retired instead of being updated with newer versions of the type.
Slow but sure, US Airlines will be all Airbus planes. Or at least, they are using more Airbus planes than boeing. We have seen this in Delta and American Airlines. And United too, they ordering A321 Neo with LR and ULR. Oh dont forget, they look more potential in A220 planes on regional routes.
This is exaggerated. United has almost 400 orders for the 737 Max, including 200 that were added in the last 2 months. Southwest also has hundreds on order with many recently added. The notion that all US airlines are moving in one direction with one manufacturer is fantasy.
As an aviation lover, seen many of my favorite planes disappearing is very sad. Boeing is not the company I know anymore and I doubt that would be again. Tell me if you still have hope Boeing could be the things they were in the past or that they would dissapier?
The 321NEO is not a 757. Stats show that the 757 has more range, greater take off weight, more thrust and wing area, allowing for short field, high altitude destinations to be served. Capacity is about the same for passengers, keeping in mind that the 321 is about 10 feet shorter.
You are absolutely right! Everybody signing hymns to Airbus320 series but everybody forgot that 320s have been created for medium range and smaller amount of passengers : now this shortweiners stuffed with passengers like sardines in a can and it try to fly transatlantics . Airbus helping to airlines to make endless extra money but not fun flight for people : some UnitedSpiritFrontier AiRways everywhere... need some as 757 or 797 or especially designed A360... 320S series has air pressure in a cabin that is good for flight up to 4 hours . when you flying longer time , you getting exhausted and feel tired long because lower pressure then long-ranger designed aircrafts have. No one airline want to say it to you.
Any move AWAY from Boeing is a good move at this moment .There is a low cost carrier in western Europe who is stuck with Boeing when reading comment in national and local news papers those wishing to travel say NOT ON A MAX , WHY ?
At this point Boeing could just deliver its back orders then shutter its plants. Same difference. They can no longer compete with Airbus. I say this as a very saddened and disappointed Boeing guy. Just like the American auto industry Boeing handed the commercial aircraft market’s to foreign companies on a silver platter. The last all Boeing major airlines, Southwest and Ryanair and even Alaskan won’t be enough to sustain them.
It's not so much that Delta's vast inventory of aircraft is very old and very inefficient - that's pretty much every legacy airline - it's that as their fleet ages, Delta refuses to refit interiors and flies dingy, dirty, rattly old planes with broken amenities (power, IFE, etc.) staffed by some of the most uncaring and rude cabin staff in the skies. Squeeze every dollar out of every air frame - US customers will still fill the seats.
I still think that Delta should order A330-800s. They fit the 767-300ER which they often used interchangeably with the 17 757-200s they have setup for medium hall travel. The A321neo lacks the 757s range, the LR isnt that practical either, and the XLR is too small for Deltas needs
@@ericjones7769 That’s your opinion. Just read article that compared the 2 & Boeing 787 won the comparison hands down. Only category Airbus won was ergonomics in cockpit. Just saying.
@@billyd7806 firstly you have no clue what you're talking about, the 787 is a competitor to the A330neo, which they already decided the A330neo is better at the job than the 787.
I wonder how old you are. Transatlantic services were revolutionised in the 1960s with the B707 and DC8, both single aisle aircraft. They were subsequently supplemented by the B747 and other twin aisle aircraft, mainly on hub to hub services. However, the market today is for point to point, hence the demand for suitably sized aircraft. My preference is always to fly direct, and if that means a single aisle aircraft, I have no issue with that. After all, I can only walk up or down a single aisle at a time.
@@The_Red_Squirrel wide body for me any day off the week, you can't walk up and down a single aisle when its blocked by a trolley, plus wide bodies, while having higher capacity seating, have a less claustrophobic feel
I agree, but these single isle aircrafts will make it possible for airlines to provide nonstop service between two destinations with not enough demand to make sense with a twin isle aircraft. As much as I love flying in twin isle aircraft, I would much rather have a nonstop flight in a single isle aircraft than a connecting flight on a single isle and then twin isle aircraft.
@@ant2312one cannot walk up or down any aisle when blocked by a trolley. Also, a lower number of passengers facilitates point to point routes, far preferable than having to connect onto another flight.
Hey Ed, (Bastion); allow me to once again say the following. If you want Delta to be an exclusive Airbus airline, the next time you need a taxpayer bailout, go beg Airbus and the European Consortium and their taxpayers. I believe Delta and any airline has the right to buy from any aircraft manufacturer they choose too. But don’t come to me for your bailout
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I fly Delta almost exclusively (as I live near ATL) and I'm a long-time Boeing fan... but the 321neo will be a great addition to their fleet! Congrats to both Delta and Airbus.
I live near ATL too. I flew a Delta A321 DCA -ATL in 2019 and was very impressed with its cabin comfort and ambiance. Mood lighting and seat back IFE’s were great touches to the cabin.
@An Phuc that seems to be the case. 20 years ago, it had no Airbus aircraft in its fleet.
@An Phuc it certainly looks that way. Delta has 0 orders for new Boeing aircraft, although they will be adding 29 used 737-900ER aircraft in the near future. They currently have 254 new orders on the books, all various Airbus aircraft.
Delta has a better reputation and the latest dedications to better and more include services really make this work.
They don't have other option, Delta could not risk
Delta is so heavily invested in the 757/767 series that it's a big step away from them.
Boeing certainly misjudged the time they had to develop a replacement for them.
They are their own worst enemy. I worked on a great many Boeing airframes & it's so disappointing to see where they're at now.
Delta isn't waiting on Boeing at this point. Even if it announced the launch of 797 tomorrow, It would be at least 7-8 years before it could be delivered in any volume. That's beyond that window for replacing the aircraft.
I agree Delta seems to be going all Airbus
@@ericjones7769
Because the CEO has a chip on his shoulder for all Boeing aircraft.
@@declannewton2556 well maybe Boeing shouldn't have antagonised it's customer by going crying to the US Gov't after they bought the C Series the first time around
@@AnishAbraham Exactly. It's one thing to claim the playing field is not level, but it's ridiculous when Boeing already receives a ton of preferential treatment (e.g., subsidies, regulation, military contracts) and does not even offer a product in the segment anymore (e.g., 717).
They aren't even sure about the product plans.
The most shocking thing about this in my mind is related to Boeing. How on earth did they blow it so bad that they have nothing to compete with the A321 NEO? The entire Management Team at Boeing should be thrown out. Thrown out with no golden parachute, no big your fired multimillion dollar bonus. They have completely wrecked an American icon.
Must absolutely agree with you, how they are in a situation where they have nothing to replace the workhorse 757 with is beyond belief 🙄
Well, they have the 737-MAX10 to compete with the A321NEO. That's what United chose. They have nothing comparing to the A321Neo's longer range versions, though.
@@pocketdynamo5787 What about a 737 MAX 12 ? I'm sure that is there next solution to their problems. How Boeing could basically give away their commercial aviation business to Airbus shocks me.
@@mp4373 don't even think about it, what Boeing gonna do to lengthen the range of their already pushed to limit 737? Best scenario in my opinion is Boeing re-engine the 757, but that won't be happening anytime soon.
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Just another reason why I fly with Delta exclusively. I am now paying attention to what aircraft I am flying on. I have lost faith in Boeing and I feel much safer on Airbus aircraft...I hope Delta goes all Airbus someday.
Delta ordered 100 Boeing 737 max 10 so it won’t happen in our lifetimes
I flew on an a321neo er (TAP Portugal) for the first time a couple of days ago. Very nice aircraft.
Ill be flying TAP's A321neo from Lisbon to Zurich soon, should be interesting
@@justastudent1423 I qas on the extended range variant for a 2 hour flight, so the had the long haul interior.
Well, guess I better fly the 757 before its retired.
Gone transatlantic on a 757 twice, cattle class
I'd recommend a shorter trip, or more posh seats ;-)
Great aircraft but I wouldn’t want to fly it trans Atlantic
Christian Felipe: the 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300 just the 200
What do you think of Delta's huge A321neo order book? Let us know:
Airbus 320 neo is having a monopoly market hope Boeing comes up with a new jet without MCAS very soon that would be as good as the 747..
I think it's great. If Boeing doesn't want to do anything about longtime customers' aging 757/767 fleets, their customers should be free to choose whatever option is available to them.
Too bad Delta had to order their 757s from Airbus.
@@orionwesley 767 already replaced by 787.
But 757... Seems to be replaced by 321.
LMAO they gave themselves a heart
This is amazing! Delta is sticking to with safety over profit (new Boeing)
Boeing’s new aircraft are consistently the safest in the world. The 777’s only fatal accidents in nearly 30 years of service and almost 1700 built have been a result of pretty much everything else EXCEPT Boeing. For a long time the 777 never had a fatal accident whatsoever, and was the poster child of commercial aviation safety. I believe it still is. Rolls Royce had engine issues, Asiana had pilot training issues, the Russians shot one down, and a Malaysian pilot did something to deliberately crash one into the ocean.
There have been zero fatal accidents involving the 787 despite 10 years and over 1,000 airframes in service. The same things cannot be said about Airbus’ comparable aircraft, the A330, which had an accident cause primarily by a fundamental system featured on ALL Airbus aircraft. The A350 is still too new to really judge, though I’m sure it will prove an extremely safe platform.
Boeing’s problems with the 737 were largely caused by the unsuitability of the platform to the upgrades they were trying to make at the request of their airline customers like Southwest.
@@JohnMaxGriffin bro an accident is an accident boeing to many shorts cuts and cost many lives, a lost soul is a lost soul period full stop.
Boeing lost this by refusing to have a replacement for the 757. If they don't want the business, there is another airplane builder that does.
Too bad, they are basically killing themselves.
It's great that a US airline is going so hard into a massive Airbus fleet, which generally bucks the trend for American carriers as they traditionally go for Boeing aircraft.
I don't think they will be the only airline to go down this route either, especially those who used to use the 757 a lot.
This is brilliant. Delta made a killing with their 757 fleet. These are great replacement
The A321neo gives Delta operational flexibility for domestic, transcon and international short and medium markets. Delta is waiting to see what Boeing is going to do with the NMA/B797.
How long can they wait? Even if an announcement is made today, it will be 5-7 years before this comes to market. Possibly even longer, given the stricter post MAX certification testing, and if the 797 contains new technologies
@@AnishAbraham Even if they ordered the A321 XLR today the 757 would be flying for that long anyway because they have a lot to replace. It may be that they're looking into ordering both types as replacements and want a timeline and specifications from Boeing to decide on numbers of each.
I think it's a great move by DL. They can use these LR aircraft to smaller EU cities like, EDI, GLA, HAM,BER etc.
Delta has expressed skepticism over the A321 LR/XLR models. They don't believe the economics, specifically pilot compensation, are favorable on transatlantic service at that scale.
If they need smaller wide bodies, go for the A330-800. It could replace the 767s and 757-300s.
The 737 Max crashes have completely wrecked Boeing in this market segment.
No 757-400 (let's close the line and destroy the tooling instead) and like younsaid, the max.
The a220 and a320 is killing boeing.
Surprisingly, the Max made a comeback. And Boeing is determined to keep pushing the 737. They should have updated the 757. They are definitely trailing Airbus now.
@@FallacyAsPraxis It seems surprisingly difficult to understand but the 757 was already tormented and starved and choked and drowned by the A321 (among others) in the late 1990s. BACK THEN it's sales had become so poor that Boeing decided to abandon the product, closed the line in Renton and scrapped the machinery in 2004.
Delta is surely building on of the most modern fleets worldwide, well-done!!!
This A321neo order is by far the most rational decision by Delta's CEO as of late.
Personally I think Delta is getting tired of all the Boeings delays and failures. I think it's a good smart move on Delta's part to make the move to more Airbus's.
Delta is going Airbus heavy if not All-Airbus as they retires the 767s and 717s, looks like their newer 737s won't be going away soon though
They are 737-900 NG.
Not 737 Max.
@@aviatorsound914 didn't even say they have 737 MAX, what I mean by newer 737s is their 737s that is delivered in 2016-2019, Delta also adding more 737-900ERs in 2022.
The A321neo is a fantastic plane, such a fitting replacement to the Boeing 757
I agree. If Delta orders the A321XLR, it could expand its international operations from JFK and LGA!
@@RashadKhanAviation2023 they’ll likely convert some existing orders to the lr or xlr
@@samuelharper9411 Let’s see!
@@RashadKhanAviation2023 There is no international traffic at LGA. Other than Canada. They don't have international processing facilities.
@@johniii8147 Yes but look at Delta. If they order the A321LR/XLR, they could do some international operations at LGA! But let’s see what they do...
Inevitably the LR/XLR will be the right plane for the 757 to replace.
The 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR and the A321LR so the A321XLR and the A321LR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300 just the 200
In terms of 767-300 replacement, I just read the other day that Airbus is in the works in a a330-800neo “light” version… less range & payload than the std a330-800neo due to the sales being so low, but I think it would fit the dynamic of Delta’s current 767-300er if Boeing doesn’t offer anything new soon
No matter how light airbus make the A330-800, it will still hard to replace the B767-300ER. It is significantly smaller and lighter despite being years older than the A330-200.
@@chingweixion621 Are you serious ! the 767 isn't significantly smaller than the a330
@@caribbaviator7058 yes It is. Seating capacity wise the largest B767-400 is only equivalent to the A330-200. The B767-300ER equivalent is the A300 while the smallest B767-200ER variant is equivalent to the A310.
Physical size wise, although the B767 fuselage is only one seat per row smaller, it is 1/8 or 12. 5% smaller.
The heaviest part of the A330-200 /800 is unfortunately its wings. The A330 has a class5 wing that it shared its structural commonality with the long range A340. The B767 on the other hand has a much smaller class 4 wing.
All these various additional weights really makes the A330-200 /800 significantly bigger and heavier. For a more apple to apple comparison, if you compare the OWE of the A330-800 vs A300-600, you will find that the A300 weighs nearly half of the A330neo weight.
My Congrats on Delta Airlines receiving there New Airbus A321Neo jets I can't wait to see them operate on Transatlantic flights to The Caribbean Destinations in the upcoming years hopefully soon!!!!!
Great news for the Wingmakers.
Boeing should suffer consequences from the 737 Max disaster and it’s executives should be in prison.
They need,help from somebody who is responsible and cares. My dream was to work on the company when I was little, know I am learning France too, you know.,
Be assured: they will have more test pilots put to jail ...
Airbus is the way to go for Delta. Commonality and differential to its major rivals in providing modern, comfortable, efficient and quiet fleet of aircraft.
How many A321neos Delta gonna order lol
Airbus: How many A321neos?
Delta: Yes
This is very sad, know a sacrifice or a miracle are the only things that could save Boeing.
Delta is well known for buying second hand jets and Maybe second hand A330/A350 will be the 767 replacement
Maybe some A330-200s could solve the problem of finding a 767 replacement
I absolutely love the A321s Delta fly!!!! But i do believe that Delta should replace their A320s with the A220s instead but the A321s would better replace the 757s definitely!!!!!!!! But yea Delta should replace their A319s and A320s and their 738s with more A220s for sure
The 738s? They are kinda old.
Didn’t Delta just acquire a large number of 739ER to replace the 738’s. As a crew member I am not a fan of the 737, I used to love the 320 family until they came up with the “flex space” galley. Now it’s just as bad as a 737-200.
@@flyguy212 quick question for you (because you said you’re a crew member) when flight attendants close the bins on the 739, why do they press like a latch on the side of the bin, and what does it even do?
@@isaactxn That's what he's saying. Replace them with A220s.
@@isaactxn I have not worked a 900. on the 800 yes there is a manual bin lock release
KLM/Transavia must follow Delta and also purchase Airbuses.
I flew on the 757s in 2018 they were very good aircraft
I thought they would go for more Boeing 737s. Are they also ordering the XLR? I´m always happy to hear when airlines order Airbus.
Airbus is quite flexible when it comes to changing orders to the LR or XLR, so we don’t know for sure whether all aircraft delivered will be of the base variant
Delta is done with Boeing
That remains to be seen. If they notify Airbus by a specified date, I'm sure they have the option to update some of them to the LR versions.
@@QuarioQuario54321 I find that very interesting. Do you know why?
@@gretareinarsson7461 Something after the northwest merger. The management probably just likes it better. I do think delta should get the A350-1000
This is good news for Raytheon/Pratt & Whitney, too, as Pratt's PurePower geared turbofan is going to be powering all of these jets.
Probably, delta seems to favor Pratt & Whitney over Rolls Royce or General Electric/Cfm
The market longs for an A322. I know I know coffin corners but the market still needs it
I agree. Airbus is sitting on the the A322 to see what Boeing is going to do with the NMA/B797. Once Boeing stops sitting on its hands and goes ahead, Airbus will launch the A322 with deliveries 2-3 years as oppose to 4-7 years for the B797, plus the A322 would be cheaper than the B797, as the necessary development would have been completed.
They’d need to completely redesign the wing, also they said that they won’t do it so I think they evaluated it enough
@@chrismckellar9350 I read that Airbus is going to re-wing the A321 as a stop gap measure in a couple of years to wait and see what Boeing will come up with while keeping the A320 family ahead. Then trump them with the next gen A320 afterwards once Boeing reveal their hands. Good move.
@@jace1113 yes, airbus is definitely having the upper hand in this duopoly fight. Airbus is controlling boeing's pace now like how a fighter is taunting his opponent in the ring.
Airbus has made their punch with the A321XLR but boeing is not able to respond. Now airbus has made another punch with the A350F and waiting for boeing to respond again.
My guess is that airbus is trying to lead boeing into committing to the B777X Freighter, and when boeing does that it will be another stretch for boeing to do the NMA at the same time. That is when airbus will probably strike again with the A322 as the B767-300ER replacement leaving boeing completely helpless in the NMA segment.
The alternative outcome is boeing did not respond to the A350F attempts, in which case they will concede a portion of the Freighter market to airbus in which case boeing will be able to commit to the NMA when airbus make its next move.
Either way, airbus did well in driving boeing into the corner. Boeing is bound to lose something, just a matter of big or small.
Boeing NMA is atleast 6 years away can’t see how 757 could hold on that long
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Crazy to think that Delta would go from an all-Boeing fleet to primarily Airbus in such a short time. DAL’s 757 and 767 airframes are pretty old as is, and cabin refreshes aside, aren’t exactly getting any younger. Give it a few years and all that will be left are the 737-900’s. Those are still new planes, but even then, their long-term future remains uncertain.
767X is the move. Can share development costs alongside the reworked freighter variant, better economies of scale, shorter time to bring to market. Supply chains and part networks are also more established.
I think you can officially say goodbye to the 757-200 and A320-200 planes. Many of those were bought by Northwest Airlines before they merged with Delta and need to be replaced. Delta may snap up as many used 737-900ER's as possible for use as A320 replacements.
looks like delta going all in on Airbus
Nothing is wrong with that. If they choose Airbus , then that's it, and . Delta has chosen the right path.
Its a good move by delta
If I have to fly coast to cast in a narrow body plane, Airbus A321 is the way to fly!
I think it's a smart move. The must have gotten a grate deal, and Boeing is tooooo much effected by the money
Wouldn't be surprised if they added some XLRs to their fleet down the line
Delta should swap the remaining order of the older A321-200 Ceo for the new A321-200 Neo LR!!!
It would cost way too much to change them plus their most likely already nearing completion.
Too late for that. They are already in the supply chain. It's not many more anyway. Just finishing up the order.
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Aviation market is changing, wide body acft will operates flghts over 10hrs till this flight tme they will change to narrowbody acft as IB & TP are doing with some flight fm europe to Brazil north coast., A321 XLR will receive ETOPS certifications and its DL'S excellent move
Nice video
A321LR and A321XLR: bro what about us?
These orders could be changed to LRs and XLRs pretty easily
I wonder if they did this to convert some into LRs/ULRs pending what Boeing does with the NMA…
…sorry…I mean XLR
Not really related other then they moved forward with best available option. There is no 797 to order and would be 8 to 10 years before it could be delivered in any volume since the program isn't even launched. DL couldn't wait that long so went with the available options. And yes I'm sure DL has to option to convert to LR versions if they converent in a certain amount of time prior to planned delivery.
Tfw the A320-200 aircraft they have are older than the B757-200 aircraft they have
That's such a weird thing to think of
Delta also has 11 A330-900s and 26 on order so that may account for replacement of some 767s. At this point I think Boeing is out of the picture for any DL orders since they delayed the 797 so long. Delta was really gung ho on having input for that one, but it seems that they have moved on to Airbus.
I really do hope Boeing is developing a plane in the 757-767 sector/actually even doing something right now. They’ve been too quiet.
I think Delta is waiting for a wide body 797 which Boeing is probably going to convert the 787-3 which they never came out with. Wide body is the way to go internationally
I thought this video is about the delta case in my country for today.
As it looks right now this is a very good decision!
I will miss the 757
The a321neo augmentation will force the airline to retire the majority of its older 757s.
How long does it take to manufacture a A320 neo by Airbus?
What's it's production capacity per day/ per month / per year?
Around 45 per month right now, but they have plans to bring it up to over 60 pr month
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They’re built at all of their facilities and due to the closure of the A380 production line the A320neo production will increase
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Wait. Does Airbus still build the A321 CEO?
If they do only a few examples. The last CEOs I’ve seen at an Airbus factory were the A319s for Tibet Airlines
@@spongebubatz and when did you see them last?
@@theskyline1425 I don’t remember correctly, but I think in April or so
It's amazing Delta didn't order the unsafe B737. Airbus narrow bodies are marvelous.
What are you talking about? Delta has more than 200x 737s.
@@mxb_se talking about the max
It's all a matter of dollars and cents to accommodate its routes needs and rejuvenate its fleet. There is a second hand market that will absorb the older jets.
It's unfortunate the 757 was retired instead of being updated with newer versions of the type.
Slow but sure, US Airlines will be all Airbus planes. Or at least, they are using more Airbus planes than boeing. We have seen this in Delta and American Airlines. And United too, they ordering A321 Neo with LR and ULR. Oh dont forget, they look more potential in A220 planes on regional routes.
This is exaggerated. United has almost 400 orders for the 737 Max, including 200 that were added in the last 2 months. Southwest also has hundreds on order with many recently added. The notion that all US airlines are moving in one direction with one manufacturer is fantasy.
Good for them but AA beat them to it, as they now have the newer and younger fleet
As an aviation lover, seen many of my favorite planes disappearing is very sad. Boeing is not the company I know anymore and I doubt that would be again. Tell me if you still have hope Boeing could be the things they were in the past or that they would dissapier?
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i wanna see an a322 with 4 wheel bogies main landing gears
4 wheel gear already exists on the A320
Airbus said they won’t do it, sadly
@@loganamnosiss no, not an a320-200.. but an actual a322, a stretched of the a321
There are not 323 any time soom
The 321NEO is not a 757. Stats show that the 757 has more range, greater take off weight, more thrust and wing area, allowing for short field, high altitude destinations to be served. Capacity is about the same for passengers, keeping in mind that the 321 is about 10 feet shorter.
You are absolutely right! Everybody signing hymns to Airbus320 series but everybody forgot that 320s have been created for medium range and smaller amount of passengers : now this shortweiners stuffed with passengers like sardines in a can and it try to fly transatlantics . Airbus helping to airlines to make endless extra money but not fun flight for people : some UnitedSpiritFrontier AiRways everywhere... need some as 757 or 797 or especially designed A360... 320S series has air pressure in a cabin that is good for flight up to 4 hours . when you flying longer time , you getting exhausted and feel tired long because lower pressure then long-ranger designed aircrafts have. No one airline want to say it to you.
Boeing knows what they’re doing
Yes write for sure, that an excellent decision
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Any move AWAY from Boeing is a good move at this moment .There is a low cost carrier in western Europe who is stuck with Boeing when reading comment in national and local news papers those wishing to travel say NOT ON A MAX , WHY ?
Shut up Airbus fanboy.
gonna be a sad day when they retire all these, probably around 2050 though so it's not all bad
Next Video: Can you please do a comparrison on the 777-3000ER and the A340-600
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Everyone is destroying Boeing in the comments 😂👍.
Not me, the companies just need help and least things from the many people the work there But a miracle is what they need or a sacrifice.
Are a321 is wide body airliner?
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@@isaaclim8645 thank you
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Yes, and a Cessna is a jumbo
Excited to fly one of these once Delta vaccinates all its employees
The 757-300 is not going down
It will be retired too within the next 5 years or so. It's average age is around 19 years old and it's a small subfleet of 15
At this point Boeing could just deliver its back orders then shutter its plants. Same difference. They can no longer compete with Airbus. I say this as a very saddened and disappointed Boeing guy. Just like the American auto industry Boeing handed the commercial aircraft market’s to foreign companies on a silver platter. The last all Boeing major airlines, Southwest and Ryanair and even Alaskan won’t be enough to sustain them.
It's not so much that Delta's vast inventory of aircraft is very old and very inefficient - that's pretty much every legacy airline - it's that as their fleet ages, Delta refuses to refit interiors and flies dingy, dirty, rattly old planes with broken amenities (power, IFE, etc.) staffed by some of the most uncaring and rude cabin staff in the skies. Squeeze every dollar out of every air frame - US customers will still fill the seats.
I still think that Delta should order A330-800s. They fit the 767-300ER which they often used interchangeably with the 17 757-200s they have setup for medium hall travel. The A321neo lacks the 757s range, the LR isnt that practical either, and the XLR is too small for Deltas needs
I dread having to travel in the A320 and variants. Not a comfortable plane even in the front.
I wish Delta would buy Boeing 787’’s but sadly don’t see that happening anytime soon. Thanks,
No!!!!! The A350s are way better than the 787s
@@ericjones7769 That’s your opinion. Just read article that compared the 2 & Boeing 787 won the comparison hands down. Only category Airbus won was ergonomics in cockpit. Just saying.
@@billyd7806 firstly you have no clue what you're talking about, the 787 is a competitor to the A330neo, which they already decided the A330neo is better at the job than the 787.
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No no one wants to fly on a small jet across the ocean
I wonder how old you are. Transatlantic services were revolutionised in the 1960s with the B707 and DC8, both single aisle aircraft. They were subsequently supplemented by the B747 and other twin aisle aircraft, mainly on hub to hub services. However, the market today is for point to point, hence the demand for suitably sized aircraft. My preference is always to fly direct, and if that means a single aisle aircraft, I have no issue with that. After all, I can only walk up or down a single aisle at a time.
@@The_Red_Squirrel wide body for me any day off the week, you can't walk up and down a single aisle when its blocked by a trolley, plus wide bodies, while having higher capacity seating, have a less claustrophobic feel
I agree, but these single isle aircrafts will make it possible for airlines to provide nonstop service between two destinations with not enough demand to make sense with a twin isle aircraft. As much as I love flying in twin isle aircraft, I would much rather have a nonstop flight in a single isle aircraft than a connecting flight on a single isle and then twin isle aircraft.
@@The_Red_Squirrel We did it for years on the B 707 and the DC 8, most of your time was spent trying to sleep anyway.
@@ant2312one cannot walk up or down any aisle when blocked by a trolley. Also, a lower number of passengers facilitates point to point routes, far preferable than having to connect onto another flight.
It’s sad they don’t support 737max program
oh its not
Max is a disaster
For them it doesn’t really make sense to, also the A321neo is a better replacement for aircraft like the 757 than the MAX 10 is (capacity for example)
Not sad, smart move.
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Hey Ed, (Bastion); allow me to once again say the following. If you want Delta to be an exclusive Airbus airline, the next time you need a taxpayer bailout, go beg Airbus and the European Consortium and their taxpayers.
I believe Delta and any airline has the right to buy from any aircraft manufacturer they choose too. But don’t come to me for your bailout