I don't mean any disrespect to those who commented on this video; however, I would simply like to say that based on the intent of this video, I can appreciate what the guy was trying to do. I will definitely think twice before trying to save money versus saving skin. Thanks for uploading.
Since most slides are face up, the major problem with the cheaper jeans was the way that the ass protection just ruffled up. However that may be different with more weight over a short distance. The government spend millions testing cars, perhaps they should spend a few thousand on properly testing gear in realistic conditions with correctly weighted and jointed dummies. I am sure that with the number of biker injuries, the insurance companies would contribute to the testing. Possibly different certification could be given to guide on the best products for serious riding as opposed to commuting in the city on a small bike. At the moment, it is a complete minefield.
@begodecrashtestdummy2722 A good pair of cowhide leather jeans give far better protection, particularly in event of an engine fire. That happened to one of my friends and he was able to stop and get off, rather than bailing and ending up with a burning bike on top of him. Just avoid those stupid 'comfort' leather jeans with the elastane crotch area that would melt within a few seconds. They are banned for track racing. LOL
Not really a fair comparison since an actual accident wont be like the scenario you tested the jeans in. You dragged them around for potentially a long time. For more realism you should have reached 55mph, then tossed them off the back and then let the kart come to a stop.
I completely agree that the methodology of the test *is* flawed if they were aiming to recreate the most realistic scenario, and as we have no way of knowing exactly when the damages occured or when the denim and aramid was worn through, it is hard to say if anything can be concluded with sertainty on the basis of this. One thing though, is that the 2 pairs were exposed to the same levels of wear, and showed significantly different damage done to them.
Anders Bjerregaard Exactly - this is a comparison, not a scientific or repeatable test. The article explains it in more depth, but generally You Tube users won't read it. You e absolutely right - the two had the same level of wear. An impact would submit the jeans to more energy in a much shorter time. This video simply compares two pair of jeans. I'd go for the better quality pair, but what other people decide to do is entirely up to them.
***** I agree wholly Ronald - no-one can deny that the more expensive jeans offer more protection, regardless of what test is carried out. As the identical test was carried out on both jeans, I know which ones I would rather be wearing!
Fantastic video. I’m in the market for rider jeans right now and this just makes me want to buy them even quicker lol. I see SO many riders with no gear on the bottom half. This proves it’s a must.
A lot of harsh comments here. If nothing else, the test does show that the more expensive pair of jeans do offer more protection. They may even withstand a few slides down the road. The cheaper pair would probably survive a slow to medium speed slide.
It's a fair conclusion for the setup of this experiment. However, in the real world you won't slide an entire circuit. I would want this to be done with a slide of 50ft or so around similar speeds, and I would feel the results will be more relevant!
But to be far you may.be sliding faster too in motercycle and alot more weight of full body pushing into those areas esp if thrown from bike more pressure
There is no need for that 120 GBP jean. check this out. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_findings_in_the_Hurt_Report Point 16, median crash speed is 21.5 mph. Only 1-in-a-thousand crash speed is 86mph. Point 1, approx. 75% of these motorcycle accidents involved collision with another vehicle, which was most usually a passenger automobile. So, expect that 25% of the time the accident does not involve another vehicle. At that median speed one would roll just a few meters. Therefore the 30 quid jean is definitely enough, but if you have the money for the 'premium', why not? What is secriously lacking in this video were a few things. 1. The best protection is ride 'defensively, protectively, maintain situational awareness'. This can only come with seat time and age. One can have the best gear in the world and if he/she ride hooligan or involves in a high speed accident. Serious injuries, disability, fatality are very likely. 2. Since we know 75% of the time the accidents involves collision with another vehicle, most usually a car. That means abrubt stop from hitting hard objects. That means the minimal gears may include, cheap or premium: Helmet, gloves, long elbow guards, knee shin guards, armored under pants, and a stiff med length boot so your ankles don't twist 360 degrees. Except the helmet and riding boots. One can get all these under 100 quids online. Cheap doesn't mean low quality, premium doesn't mean better protection. Ride 'DEFENSIVELY' is the BEST protection, and wear what you choose to wear, not what others tell you to wear.
Yes I am an expert, that you are correct. You don't care? Obviously you read, felt butthurt, reacted and replied brokenly. Can you read English. I mean you can, but do you understand the language? My point 2. basically says there are essential minimum riding gears. I am 40 and I've ridden so many bikes since my early 20's, had my fair share of accidents and scars. I am a sole distributor of Husqvarna Motorcycles in Thailand. I ride on and off road. now you can fuck off.
It was not a debate. You didn't have a valid point to start with. In case you are dumb enough to summarize, get confused and all: My previous statements comes down to this: Number 1 rule of motorcycle safety, is ride defensively, protectively, maintain full time situational awareness. Follow by a variety of gears which I listed. Also, cheaper doesn't mean low quality. Premium doesn't protect better, but if you have the money for the 'premium', why not? You managed to write three confusing cursing posts posted in three different time, which could be put together into one. Your brain is not working well you know that? Are you ADHD, Pakinson? I suggest you have a mental evaluation asap.
While still relevant and a good indicator that you should be more worried about other vehicles than your pants probably the statistics are very old and need to be reassessed. I wonder now if the rates have changed with more people being aware of riders and the attitude seems friendlier now, or how cell phones have effected the rates.
Those statistics you're citing from the 'Hurt Report' are from the 1970's and according to Wikipedia; it's debatable whether they're still valid for 2018. I definitely agree with what you're saying still. www.mcgearhub.com is also a very good website to see some real-world crash incidents for those who are interested. What kind of riding pants do you recommend for spirited street riding?
To be honest a full grown person weight about 3-4 times more that the dummy they used in the test so you would get 3 times more damage on the same track.
mo m8 the resistance from your body being dragged by a motorcycle is transferred to the point of contact, it may be not the same as having all weight on the trousers but it is still about 3 to 4 times more abrasion than having a stupid dummy as a reference.
A large part is likely to be on your back though. I agree that the dummy was too light, just pointing out that not all of your weight is going to be on one part. Unless you're sitting up and sliding.
I'm currently going through the process of buying motorcycle gear myself as I'm nearing my exams and even though the price is steep it is easily worth it imo. I mean, it's for my own safety.. I'd rather pay for a well protecting, well made pair of motorcycle pants or a jacket rather than having my skin scraped off in case I go for a slide. I know there are people who even ride in regular jeans and I'm just like wtf man... And also I simply think to myself, sure the gear is expensive, but these days even regular clothes are (can be) expensive. People pay ridiculous amounts of money for denim jeans and what not. I don't, so I might as well spend it on good driving gear. It may also a good idea to take saving money for gear into account when you start saving money for your first motorcycle.
Exactly , i purchased my gear beforehand , that then let me know where i stood in regards to saving for a bike. I bought Alpinestars GP plus one piece leather suit , Supertech R boots , Arai RX-7V helmet , Alpinestars GP Pro gloves , Armour etc) but also bought a cheaper set of RST leather two piece set that zips together and a an RST textile set for winter. My main alpinestars stuff/helmet was all new , but i picked up the textiles second hand for cheap. Some great stuff where the user had basically only completed their compulsary basic training (CBT) and never used it again , so was as good as new.
Need to do the test again because Aldi now do a fully lined CE approved pair of jeans with knee and hip armour for £39 i bought a pair and they are fantastic, very thick and excellent quality 👍
So much hate and so many cheapskates posting comments, one factor remains. Back in around 2000 Dragging Jeans in the USA and Hood Jeans in the UK were the only two manufacturers of Kevlar lined motorcycle jeans. Draggin jeans were like the Aldi ones and the Hood Jeans were supreme with full length coverage, even the denim and jean creation was supreme. I had a pair of K7 Jeans for this entire time and passed them onto a mate as out grew the size. I never crashed them but the denim stood up to the test of time. I certainly rate the denim and build of the jeans as better than Levis or Wrangler. For double the money you get a tech jean capable of surviving a crash and protecting you into the bargain. To all the haters shove wasps up your arse if it makes you feel happy but least I know where my next pair of motorcycle jeans will come from. The Draggin K shirt from draggin jeans was a good idea though and am liking these new hoodie's lined with kevlar into bargain. Biking has never seen so casual and so safe.
But what about the seem strength? In a crash, the force of your body hitting the floor at speed will certainly stress the seems and often bursts them on cheaply made textile and leather clothing. Would've been nice to see if the jeans survived such a test!
The trick is to hit the ground gently and just sliiiiiiiiiiiide. They are much better protection than blue jeans no matter how well they're made. The ultimate protection would be a full set of leathers but I'm not running Moto GP.
What I don't understand is if they both have aramid inside, why has it ripped through the protection on the budget pair and not the premium? Surely aramid is aramid, regardless of budget? Genuine question as I'm still pretty new to motorcycles. Great video by the way... more people need to see this sort of stuff.
I skipped to the end but I'm assuming the cheaper pair were only lined in the seat, the knees and the hips. The more expensive ones are usually fully lined. It can get much more complicated with aramid (Kevlar) interwoven fibres vs aramid/Kevlar lined but basically I think this video is part lined vs fully lined
yeah, foreigners have this wierd fake money...and a lot of made up words too...some of them even have "languages" where not even one word can be understood. how they manage is beyond me...
+Richard well, yeah... I was riffing on an old Steve Martin routine... Kinda playing the ugly American... You people have a different word for everything!
I lack explanation in this video on why, if both pairs were 14oz denim, Aldi one torn much more significantly than Premium pair. Taking into consideration tears on knees were similar something g potentially affected rear part of the cheaper jeans.
Brilliant. We watch endless reviews of jeans about how they look and the feel and the cut, blablabla. This test just shows to us all, you get what you pay for. Read the specs and pay the extra.
Contrary to many of the comments, textile abrasion testing is generally performed using a machine that applies pressure and friction for thousands and tens of thousands of repetitions. The textile is rated by the last group of 15 or 20,000 repetitions it successfully withstood. (There are two chief methods and corresponding machines used, one standard is American--Wyzenbeek--, one International--Martindale.) Granted, an actual accident involves more than abrasion alone: impact, tearing/shearing, and so on. However, the variability of how an accident unfolds renders complex testing (that is, attempting to simultaneously evaluate multiple elements) of modest value at best. In my view this real-world exercise makes a relevant point, however lacking it may be in either pure rigor or accuracy of accident modelling: more lining means better abrasion resistance.
I bought a slightly used 2 piece leather suit by Teknic (double cow-hide at the impact zones and seat) for £40. I’d bet that against the Hood jeans. Aldi jeans are ok for a trip around the city. Slide times at city speeds are what? 1 second? That’s about all you need. For potentially really long slides, people should really be wearing 1 or 2 piece cowhide (or kangaroo, deer, elk) suits.
+Nick Field You will still end up with road rash underneath. It may not be as bad as straight to pavement, but tell me how much different it was skinning your knee from falling off your bicycle as a kid in shorts compared to jeans. Yes there was a bit more blood and tearing in shorts, but you still ended up with tearing and blood inside the jeans. Jeans aren't gear.
+Mark Banks I'm an advocate of gear and I wear full leathers throughout the year in texas which is known to get over 100 degrees during the summer. Yet, I'll take baby scraps and bruises over complete road rash.
All motorcycle jeans are design to save your skin from a 5-7 second slide. If you are sliding more than 10 seconds then you should be using full leathers cow or kangaroo anyway and be on a race track. If you are sliding over 10 seconds on the road then you are going WAY too fast on jeans.
To be honest if these jeans damaged this much being dragged with hardly any weight in them the results would be worse with someone wearing them and coming of a bike.So just spend a bit more on leathers and put up with them on a hot day.You only get one pair of legs.
For everyone saying the test isn't accurate, you're right, but for the wrong reasons. Yes the protective lining didn't rip and did rip, that doesn't matter. How many times have you scraped your knees through your jeans and the jeans didn't rip? You will still have a large amount of road rash in both scenarios. JEANS ARE NOT GEAR EVER.
Absolutely agree. These guys either reckon they'll never come off, or been lucky. I've come off in jeans, and they just shredded like tissue. I've got the scars to prove it. Never again. Only full leathers for me, thank you.
Agreed leather and race boots saved my life in a motorway spill. Jeans would have lasted seconds dragged down the road with my bike pinning me to the tarmac.
I have recently bought riding jeans as a reward fpr passing my driving test. I decided tp spend 400 bucks on AAA levl riding jeans from Dainese. I've never had an accident - thank God - but I still think they're worth every penny. They feel like a pair of joggers by the way. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
I'd be curious how long most people slide when having to lay down a bike vs how much punishment you put those jeans through. The more expensive pair is better for being dragged behind a go kart, but what about laying down a bike going 40mph, 60mph, and 70mph.
I don't own any riding jeans but after seeing this i really want a pair now, I've had lots of people tell me "just get aldi ones!" but nah sod that i'll keep my skin road rash free thanks.
I am wondering where I can find out what the ratings of Tobacco Motowear are since Tobacco won’t tell me. I have not run across many brands that don’t list a rating but tobacco is one of them that don’t. I don’t know why but they cost a significant chunk of change and if I’m going to lay down that type of money, I definitely would like to know their CE A scale rating. Do you know of a site that lists everybody who makes rider jeans - their CE A scale rating? If so I would really like to know this link or who it is that I need to ask.
Why not don a set of full leathers (as we know these work well) and then put on the outside the kevlar/non leather clothes to be tested and jump off the gokart?
You'd need to compare the Aldi part lined jeans with some Hood part lined jeans. 2 different designs rather than cheap pair vs dearer pair. Of course fully lined jeans will fair better than part lined.
I dont know why people have said the test was a failure. I dont much about stuff like this but to me it got the point across more armor is better than less armor for less cash
wud be great to see a heavier dummy being dragged at 60 mph for 5-8 seconds on both the front and rear sides but this is an extreme example that proves a small investment in ur heath cud mean no road rash and wire brush to ur skin to clean out the debris. seems like a fair and wise investment to me.
I fell off last year wearing a textile jacket and fully lined jeans. I still wear the jeans every day because they're fine, the jacket is in landfill somewhere because it was fucked! Hope that answers your question!
i think it's a good comparison test, it shows the difference in protection levels between the two. To all the people who made negative comments I can only say "Which pair would you rather be wearing if you found yourself sliding down the road on your arse?"
burned & scratched flesh will heal. a broken joint or ligament will heal to but not to the extent like before. if you do competitive sports for example. so the knee protectors are essentially the point of this whole product
Iv'e got a pair of Draggin jeans and they are one of the best and original kevlar jeans, but they only have as much kevlar as the Aldi ones in the same places! :-/
+kidda74 You'll probably find they have a longer 'short' area, and that it's a complete 'unit'. These were a different construction. Personally, I prefer fully-lined jeans still though.
+MoreBikes.co.uk Oh I recently treated myself to a pair of Hood jeans and I'm very happy with them. The colour, the fit, the style they're just like a normal pair of good jeans to look at but with full protection. The armor that you get for them is good too without being too bulky!
Those denims drift like a boss. I don't know why, but I found that hilarious. I think all go kart racers should be made to tow 2 pairs of jeans during races. Nice job though, I'll have a pair of premium jeans please.
This is very interesting. I never ride without leathers and there's no way I'd wear Aldi jeans on a bike. Its a good test that highlights the difference between cheap and good gear.
I get the intent, and ultimately the more expensive fully protected jeans will always offer better protection than ones without full protection, regardless of brand. However, this is such an unscientific test! For example, not once did you mention how long you were dragging them round for?! Based on this test, you literally cannot say that if you were wearing the Aldi jeans in a crash, that you would sustain more injuries than in the others!
Jeans are not made for riding. Aramid insert spawn from marketing, other than from real R&D. Real riding pants are synthetic textiles. Highly abrasion resistant, slippery so when a rider falls they allow some slide, helps to minimize contusion, not sharp stoppage like jeans. Jeans are easy to wear and look better though. Also, more expensive is mostly the result of marketing costs. For example. Alda from factory costs 9-10 US dollars a piece, while Hood K7 is 13-15 US dollars. Not pounds. I work as a senior sourcing manager of a reputable international apparel sourcing company. These are real facts.
I think normally the absolute longest slides will not go for much longer than 15 seconds (that's going speeds excess of 100 mph) it looked like he dragged those pants around for at least 40 seconds maybe even a minute all you have really shown is witch pants have excess armoring
Not concrete research, but it did prove a point. Buy cheap and suffer the consequences!
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Nobody slides more than 10-15 meters at 60-100 km/h but I get your point, If you fall at higher speeds you MUST wear leathers or Textile with more protection
some guy says a person falling off a motorcycle going 60 mph doesn't slide more the 50 feet... I've never heard anything more asinine in my life!!! Hard braking at 60 mph takes about 40 meters
a person regular protective textile hits the ground at 60mph becomes a rag doll, slides and rolls, extremities overcome by g force uncontrollably at that speed and they open close along the way. That person has a huge combined contact patch versus his/her weight, plus the rag dollish rolling absorbs all the kinetic energy, which equates to bruise, sprain & strain, broken bones, dislocations. So really, 50 feet makes sense. You can stitch up a human sized doll filled with sands with steel tube as bone structure, as accurate as possible, let it off the rear of a pick up truck at 70mph it won't go very far. And you'll find that the doll would be roughed up big time. A racing suit on the other hand, is designed to slide and reduce roll. It has all the hard stuff at usual contact points, tough yet slippery leather, and supports that limit extemities' movement. But still, 5-10 more meters than textile would be the max. A motorcycle has two-three times the inertia compare to a person. When emergency braking front dives hard renders rear tire almost useless, it's speed is reduced by a tiny contact patch, mostly front. The same motorcycle, fit with 4 Formula 1 tires and brakes, theoretically can stop dead within 5 meters from 60mph, but the rider should be overcome by the braking g force and fly over the bar.
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+Mitch Lee TUMBLING is not the same a SLIDING. Unless you ride on water, ice or with full leather at more than 120 km/h you dont SLIDE for more than 20m.
+DOG SPIT Please do feel free to do you own test. I've tried to explain the lack of science, repeatability, the fact that it's a comparison... but 'as many have stated', there are other opinions out there - the internet is full of them. Makes no odds to me - wear what you like.
+Dave Muldoon They're Aldi Dave. The aramid in them isn't actually that bad (as stated), but my problem with them is particularly where its sewn into the back. The seams here failed instantly, so as soon as the denim goes through, the aramid pulls up, exposing your bum. That's not the case with all part-lined jeans - some have a longer 'short' area. They're better than normal jeans though. Personally, I prefer fully-lined jeans (which again was my point with this video) - they're what I wear on launches. Cheers, John
'Proper' 'motorcyclists' - you what? Real Bikers have a pragmatic view and are prone to take risks - they ride motorcycles after all! Cost is always a factor. Or perhaps you'd be happytto wear these star trek forcefield jeans I just invented. You can drag them around a lap of the Nurburgring behind an F1 car without even scuffing them. yours for a cool billion US $.
yeh cause when you fall off a bike your going 50 mph getting slung around a never ending track for about 30 minutes yep very very accurate and to be honest the jeans out up a big fight so if it was a accident I doubt much damage would happen
@@roger201288 yeah i seen but i think the roadskin jeans are better as they are fully lined. but the bowtex arent bad either . u can wear any jeans you like with them
@@roger201288 The good thing with the leggings for commuting, is that you could quite easily take them off in the bathroom when you arrive at work, particularly in the summer.
Fully lined don't necessarily cost more. Should've weighed them down more to simulate an actual rider's weight. It would be great to test single layer jeans.
SSchithFoo Yeah, because your most important body parts are located in your legs, you break your leg and you are dead, because you will not be able to hunt for your daily prey again and you will starve to death.
It's all well and good, but you picked the crappiest of the budget jeans. My motocentric batallions were on sale for 40 bucks and have thicker denim and way more Kevlar.
This test certainly does not reflect what would happen in real world, but certainly illustrates the durability and the fact that you actually get what you pay for... More money = more durability and protection. Choice is individual to make.
exactly...real test would be sew the cuffs closed fill with sand, sew closed drag for 30 seconds at 60 Mph and take a look...unless you plan on being chained behind a truck for a ten minute drag...
I’ve worked in emergency medicine for 30 years I’ve never heard one person say gosh I wish I’d of had less protective equipment on. Do the research buy the best you can afford. Pay attention to your helmets and make sure that they are not counterfeit. I’ve ridden motorcycle my whole life I remember sliding down a gravel road on my helmet wondering am I ever going to stop. Buy the best you can afford and play the who’s going to kill me next game whenever you’re on the motorcycle because they are out there and they are stupid!
. . .I'd rather purchase the necessary materials/equipment before purchasing a bike. . . .had a friend years ago who was sideswiped. Long story short, he borrowed my Levi's jacket and... ....when he hit the pavement, the jacket was destroyed with a matter of second. I personally never ride aggressively and have received more injuries riding on the dirt vs. on the street. Good luck and watch out for old ladies and texters.
Ieuan Mark Mills even if they're still part lined? What does the more expensive price mean? That the weaving is better ?? I mean I'd never buy a £30 pair of motorcycle trousers haha I'd rather pay £100 they say you get what you pay for after all. I was just wondering whether £30 part lined jeans and £100 part lined jeans where any different. And what's the best things to look out for
+xsassyxbluex Many more expensive part-lined jeans have a longer 'short' area at the bum, and are a complete short in themselves - that should mean they stay in place better. Personally though, I much prefer fully-lined.
This proves that if you want to get dragged around a race track buy hoods ,but if you fall off a bike and just slide a short distance get the cheap ones
Ride magazine used to do some very good testing, seem to have taken a more lax approach nowadays.... Begs the question, what's behind this - manufacturers spitting their dummy out, or apathy.... ? ? ?
How fast does one have to be going to slide a quarter mile? I assuming he went once around the track which is astronomically further than a person would actually slide. If he went any further (several laps) then he is right. This is not scientific.
i tumbled and slid down the highway at 70-90kph and the only damage to my jeans was my right knee when i first hit the pavement hard.. after that just some slight wear
+James W I've had mates do the same and be fine too. But I fell off at about 10mph on a small roundabout after changing my tyres (fitted them myself, and forgot I'd done them five minutes later!) - the jeans holed instantly and I tore my knee. Nothing serious, but I wear decent quality aramid jeans on launches as we're not hanging about. It's entirely everybody's own choice what to wear.
I wear the 30 quid jean with kevlar positioned at usual contact points but mine has built in pocket that come with small soft knee pad, and hip protection. Nevertheless I like to use long knee guard that extends to protect my shin bone, outside or inside the jean. because I've seen my friend's right leg broke into three pieces when he low sided and hit a barrier at low speed. His entire knee was smashed is replaced with an artificial one. He can no longer ride in this life.
I work as a senior sourcing manager of a reputable sourcing company. We sourced both the hood jeans and Alda. From various factories, the Hood K7 in the video, costs 13-15 US dollars, not GBPs. The Alda costs 9-10 US dollars a piece. They are made in Vietnam, Bangladesh, cambodia, etc, etc. Jeans are not designed for riding, premium or not. Denim simply has too much grip to the pavement. They look cool and easy to use though. Real riding pants are synthetic textiles or leathers. They are highly abrasion resistant, slippery so injury from contusion is minimized. They do not need marketing bullshit material like aramid. They also have built in remove-able wash-able reuse-able guards. Additional knee-shin guards are highly recommended. Videos, review articles from MoreBikes.co.uk, are sponsored, by the way.
Sam McCartney Exelent reply I'm a old git budget biker and I research bike gear, a lot which is rebadged as you say on Asian garments and hiked up in price
Testing to failure is valid methodology. The important bit here is how they failed, not how much they took before they failed. The partially lined pair had catastrophic failure before the fully lined pair, so now we know that there's no gimmick here, the fully lined perform better under abrasion. The lining ripping at seams is important, and is a design concern during even professional grade leathers design. A suit is only as strong as its most vulnerable seam... and these cheap pants illustrate that perfectly. In conclusion your all buttes.
+McBrappin True, but the gear is not what matters, i dont see how everyone misses the fact that we're talking about the skin underneath the jeans. Even though the jeans' lining stood up, your skin will not. We all have tripped or fallen off our bicycle as a kid with jeans on and still ended up road rashed and bloody underneath without any tears or rips in the jeans. The fact of the matter is, jeans are not gear. If you are going to protect your body, wear leather or vinyl, not cotton.
False. Anybody with an axe to grind can design a "test" that will favor one thing over another. Stuffed jeans are not even remotely the same as jeans with flesh and bone inside. the shape is different, the pressure points are different, literally *everything* is different. There is nothing useful about this "test".
if your body ONLY did that in an accident that would be cool. But ya coming down & grinding on that point. Me like we have more options now. thanks for the heads up for safety!!!
if you can afford Good gear GET IT... Better safe then sorry... there are some people (idiots) stating it's not necessary... Common sense is to get great gear and not need it, then to have sub par gear and and end up in the hospital and thinking if I only spent a few more dollars on good gear you wouldn't be in the hospital spending 100 times more on medical cost plus the injuries you wouldn't have if you had the right gear... BETTER SAFE THEN SORRY
You didn't leave a solution for those who can't afford your so called '"good gears" Most people don't have 800 to 1 thousand GBP to spare. What's your solution to that?
Mitch Lee Don't deviate from the question. There are PLENTY riders who can't afford premium goods. What's your take on that? Tell them to fuck off and don't ride? Is 3 your lucky number or something? That you can't combine your words properly in one post and must separate them into 3. I feel that you kind of have gone more crazy from reading my replies. Where the hate come from? Are you a wife and child beater?
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I don't mean any disrespect to those who commented on this video; however, I would simply like to say that based on the intent of this video, I can appreciate what the guy was trying to do. I will definitely think twice before trying to save money versus saving skin. Thanks for uploading.
+RK Smith Cheers!
Since most slides are face up, the major problem with the cheaper jeans was the way that the ass protection just ruffled up. However that may be different with more weight over a short distance.
The government spend millions testing cars, perhaps they should spend a few thousand on properly testing gear in realistic conditions with correctly weighted and jointed dummies.
I am sure that with the number of biker injuries, the insurance companies would contribute to the testing. Possibly different certification could be given to guide on the best products for serious riding as opposed to commuting in the city on a small bike.
At the moment, it is a complete minefield.
I didn't even know motorcycle jeans were a thing. Just got my first 125 and definitely going to get a pair of the good ones. Thanks for informing me 👍
@begodecrashtestdummy2722 Were you wearing denim or leather jeans.?
@begodecrashtestdummy2722 A good pair of cowhide leather jeans give far better protection, particularly in event of an engine fire. That happened to one of my friends and he was able to stop and get off, rather than bailing and ending up with a burning bike on top of him.
Just avoid those stupid 'comfort' leather jeans with the elastane crotch area that would melt within a few seconds. They are banned for track racing. LOL
if i was being dragged around a go kart track by my feet i would get the more expensive jeans
If I was being dragged around a go kart track by my feet, I'd get a gun.
TDubsKid
Indeed LOL!
aluisious
Exactly!!!
Or when planning on going 80-100mph+. Doubling the speed is quadrupling the energy...
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Not really a fair comparison since an actual accident wont be like the scenario you tested the jeans in. You dragged them around for potentially a long time. For more realism you should have reached 55mph, then tossed them off the back and then let the kart come to a stop.
I completely agree that the methodology of the test *is* flawed if they were aiming to recreate the most realistic scenario, and as we have no way of knowing exactly when the damages occured or when the denim and aramid was worn through, it is hard to say if anything can be concluded with sertainty on the basis of this. One thing though, is that the 2 pairs were exposed to the same levels of wear, and showed significantly different damage done to them.
Anders Bjerregaard Exactly - this is a comparison, not a scientific or repeatable test. The article explains it in more depth, but generally You Tube users won't read it. You
e absolutely right - the two had the same level of wear. An impact would submit the jeans to more energy in a much shorter time. This video simply compares two pair of jeans. I'd go for the better quality pair, but what other people decide to do is entirely up to them.
***** I agree wholly Ronald - no-one can deny that the more expensive jeans offer more protection, regardless of what test is carried out. As the identical test was carried out on both jeans, I know which ones I would rather be wearing!
MoreBikes.co.uk Bet we can buy the expensive pair from you eh lol
I agree I would like to see a more realistic sliding test getting up to 50-60mph and let the jeans go and see the difference
good demonstration. The jeans have good abrasion resistance but no armor. Impact protection is also important!
Fantastic video. I’m in the market for rider jeans right now and this just makes me want to buy them even quicker lol. I see SO many riders with no gear on the bottom half. This proves it’s a must.
A lot of harsh comments here. If nothing else, the test does show that the more expensive pair of jeans do offer more protection. They may even withstand a few slides down the road. The cheaper pair would probably survive a slow to medium speed slide.
More protection which I don't need cause I'm not gonna be dragged behind a gocart lying flat on my belly!
@@StarskiPL sure but sliding at 50 miles an hour will be just like that. Its not a good test but it does show the drastic difference between the 2
Excellent video. Thanks for putting this together. Buy good gear all you riders out there!
Now that's what you call useful video. Worth 5:21 minutes of my life. Thanks.
relistic test conditions...many thanks for sharing... a lot of us bikers still need educating on good proper safety equipment....
watch out !! Jeans overtaking on the inside of the curve ! :))) better lap times :)))
It's a fair conclusion for the setup of this experiment. However, in the real world you won't slide an entire circuit. I would want this to be done with a slide of 50ft or so around similar speeds, and I would feel the results will be more relevant!
How so? Products are rarely tested by subjecting them to the minimum expected trauma
But to be far you may.be sliding faster too in motercycle and alot more weight of full body pushing into those areas esp if thrown from bike more pressure
I'd like to see the same test with textile and leathers. Then it would make selection a bit easier.
There is no need for that 120 GBP jean. check this out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_findings_in_the_Hurt_Report
Point 16, median crash speed is 21.5 mph. Only 1-in-a-thousand crash speed is 86mph.
Point 1, approx. 75% of these motorcycle accidents involved
collision with another vehicle, which was most usually a passenger
automobile.
So, expect that 25% of the time the accident does not involve another vehicle. At that median speed one would roll just a few meters. Therefore the 30 quid jean is definitely enough, but if you have the money for the 'premium', why not?
What is secriously lacking in this video were a few things.
1. The best protection is ride 'defensively, protectively, maintain situational awareness'. This can only come with seat time and age. One can have the best gear in the world and if he/she ride hooligan or involves in a high speed accident. Serious injuries, disability, fatality are very likely.
2. Since we know 75% of the time the accidents involves collision with another vehicle, most usually a car. That means abrubt stop from hitting hard objects. That means the minimal gears may include, cheap or premium: Helmet, gloves, long elbow guards, knee shin guards, armored under pants, and a stiff med length boot so your ankles don't twist 360 degrees.
Except the helmet and riding boots. One can get all these under 100 quids online. Cheap doesn't mean low quality, premium doesn't mean better protection. Ride 'DEFENSIVELY' is the BEST protection, and wear what you choose to wear, not what others tell you to wear.
Yes I am an expert, that you are correct.
You don't care? Obviously you read, felt butthurt, reacted and replied brokenly.
Can you read English. I mean you can, but do you understand the language?
My point 2. basically says there are essential minimum riding gears.
I am 40 and I've ridden so many bikes since my early 20's, had my fair share of accidents and scars. I am a sole distributor of Husqvarna Motorcycles in Thailand. I ride on and off road.
now you can fuck off.
It was not a debate. You didn't have a valid point to start with.
In case you are dumb enough to summarize, get confused and all:
My previous statements comes down to this: Number 1 rule of motorcycle safety, is ride defensively, protectively, maintain full time situational awareness. Follow by a variety of gears which I listed. Also, cheaper doesn't mean low quality. Premium doesn't protect better, but if you have the money for the 'premium', why not?
You managed to write three confusing cursing posts posted in three different time, which could be put together into one. Your brain is not working well you know that? Are you ADHD, Pakinson? I suggest you have a mental evaluation asap.
Holy shit that was intresting!
While still relevant and a good indicator that you should be more worried about other vehicles than your pants probably the statistics are very old and need to be reassessed. I wonder now if the rates have changed with more people being aware of riders and the attitude seems friendlier now, or how cell phones have effected the rates.
Those statistics you're citing from the 'Hurt Report' are from the 1970's and according to Wikipedia; it's debatable whether they're still valid for 2018. I definitely agree with what you're saying still.
www.mcgearhub.com is also a very good website to see some real-world crash incidents for those who are interested.
What kind of riding pants do you recommend for spirited street riding?
Oh god i do hope nobody gets dragged behind a gocart for several laps!
+Ylex happened to me once. next time i wore 2 pairs of aldi jeans. still saved money
To be honest a full grown person weight about 3-4 times more that the dummy they used in the test so you would get 3 times more damage on the same track.
UlTrApLeX yeah, their full weight. However, most of your weight is up in your chest.
mo m8 the resistance from your body being dragged by a motorcycle is transferred to the point of contact, it may be not the same as having all weight on the trousers but it is still about 3 to 4 times more abrasion than having a stupid dummy as a reference.
A large part is likely to be on your back though. I agree that the dummy was too light, just pointing out that not all of your weight is going to be on one part. Unless you're sitting up and sliding.
I'm currently going through the process of buying motorcycle gear myself as I'm nearing my exams and even though the price is steep it is easily worth it imo. I mean, it's for my own safety.. I'd rather pay for a well protecting, well made pair of motorcycle pants or a jacket rather than having my skin scraped off in case I go for a slide. I know there are people who even ride in regular jeans and I'm just like wtf man...
And also I simply think to myself, sure the gear is expensive, but these days even regular clothes are (can be) expensive. People pay ridiculous amounts of money for denim jeans and what not. I don't, so I might as well spend it on good driving gear.
It may also a good idea to take saving money for gear into account when you start saving money for your first motorcycle.
Exactly , i purchased my gear beforehand , that then let me know where i stood in regards to saving for a bike. I bought Alpinestars GP plus one piece leather suit , Supertech R boots , Arai RX-7V helmet , Alpinestars GP Pro gloves , Armour etc) but also bought a cheaper set of RST leather two piece set that zips together and a an RST textile set for winter. My main alpinestars stuff/helmet was all new , but i picked up the textiles second hand for cheap. Some great stuff where the user had basically only completed their compulsary basic training (CBT) and never used it again , so was as good as new.
Need to do the test again because Aldi now do a fully lined CE approved pair of jeans with knee and hip armour for £39 i bought a pair and they are fantastic, very thick and excellent quality 👍
So much hate and so many cheapskates posting comments, one factor remains. Back in around 2000 Dragging Jeans in the USA and Hood Jeans in the UK were the only two manufacturers of Kevlar lined motorcycle jeans. Draggin jeans were like the Aldi ones and the Hood Jeans were supreme with full length coverage, even the denim and jean creation was supreme. I had a pair of K7 Jeans for this entire time and passed them onto a mate as out grew the size. I never crashed them but the denim stood up to the test of time. I certainly rate the denim and build of the jeans as better than Levis or Wrangler. For double the money you get a tech jean capable of surviving a crash and protecting you into the bargain. To all the haters shove wasps up your arse if it makes you feel happy but least I know where my next pair of motorcycle jeans will come from. The Draggin K shirt from draggin jeans was a good idea though and am liking these new hoodie's lined with kevlar into bargain. Biking has never seen so casual and so safe.
But what about the seem strength?
In a crash, the force of your body hitting the floor at speed will certainly stress the seems and often bursts them on cheaply made textile and leather clothing.
Would've been nice to see if the jeans survived such a test!
The trick is to hit the ground gently and just sliiiiiiiiiiiide. They are much better protection than blue jeans no matter how well they're made. The ultimate protection would be a full set of leathers but I'm not running Moto GP.
Yes, a better test would be to load these with sandbags and throw them out the back of a van at highway speed.
The lesson is, always wear high quality gear in the event you're dragged down the street tied to a go cart. 🤗
What I don't understand is if they both have aramid inside, why has it ripped through the protection on the budget pair and not the premium? Surely aramid is aramid, regardless of budget? Genuine question as I'm still pretty new to motorcycles. Great video by the way... more people need to see this sort of stuff.
I skipped to the end but I'm assuming the cheaper pair were only lined in the seat, the knees and the hips. The more expensive ones are usually fully lined.
It can get much more complicated with aramid (Kevlar) interwoven fibres vs aramid/Kevlar lined but basically I think this video is part lined vs fully lined
@@stanssoapbox That makes sense. Thanks! 👍
when he said its a 90 lb difference i for a few seconds was like dam those are heavy jeans. i get he means money
Me too 😂😂
yeah, foreigners have this wierd fake money...and a lot of made up words too...some of them even have "languages" where not even one word can be understood. how they manage is beyond me...
+Steve M Except English people actually invented the language you speak...
+Richard well, yeah... I was riffing on an old Steve Martin routine... Kinda playing the ugly American... You people have a different word for everything!
friscoHub415
Henry Ford invented cars, therefore Ford cars are the best. Stupidest argument ever
I lack explanation in this video on why, if both pairs were 14oz denim, Aldi one torn much more significantly than Premium pair. Taking into consideration tears on knees were similar something g potentially affected rear part of the cheaper jeans.
Brilliant. We watch endless reviews of jeans about how they look and the feel and the cut, blablabla. This test just shows to us all, you get what you pay for. Read the specs and pay the extra.
Contrary to many of the comments, textile abrasion testing is generally performed using a machine that applies pressure and friction for thousands and tens of thousands of repetitions. The textile is rated by the last group of 15 or 20,000 repetitions it successfully withstood. (There are two chief methods and corresponding machines used, one standard is American--Wyzenbeek--, one International--Martindale.)
Granted, an actual accident involves more than abrasion alone: impact, tearing/shearing, and so on. However, the variability of how an accident unfolds renders complex testing (that is, attempting to simultaneously evaluate multiple elements) of modest value at best.
In my view this real-world exercise makes a relevant point, however lacking it may be in either pure rigor or accuracy of accident modelling: more lining means better abrasion resistance.
I bought a slightly used 2 piece leather suit by Teknic (double cow-hide at the impact zones and seat) for £40. I’d bet that against the Hood jeans.
Aldi jeans are ok for a trip around the city. Slide times at city speeds are what? 1 second? That’s about all you need. For potentially really long slides, people should really be wearing 1 or 2 piece cowhide (or kangaroo, deer, elk) suits.
Rev'it: 12 oz. Cordura, Powershield lining, triple stitching, shieldprotectors on knees and hips and Coolmax for comfort.
Thank you for the demonstration! The test is obviously flawed but so are (the very few) other tests there are for this gear.
Damn. Never considered motorcycle jeans to be much better than regular jeans. I'm sold.
+Nick Field You will still end up with road rash underneath. It may not be as bad as straight to pavement, but tell me how much different it was skinning your knee from falling off your bicycle as a kid in shorts compared to jeans. Yes there was a bit more blood and tearing in shorts, but you still ended up with tearing and blood inside the jeans. Jeans aren't gear.
+Mark Banks I'm an advocate of gear and I wear full leathers throughout the year in texas which is known to get over 100 degrees during the summer. Yet, I'll take baby scraps and bruises over complete road rash.
@@Daf__XL the trick is to not crash. Been riding 30 years in t shirt and shorts and never had road rash because ive mever crashed!
All motorcycle jeans are design to save your skin from a 5-7 second slide. If you are sliding more than 10 seconds then you should be using full leathers cow or kangaroo anyway and be on a race track. If you are sliding over 10 seconds on the road then you are going WAY too fast on jeans.
To be honest if these jeans damaged this much being dragged with hardly any weight in them the results would be worse with someone wearing them and coming of a bike.So just spend a bit more on leathers and put up with them on a hot day.You only get one pair of legs.
THIS is a REAL test!
For everyone saying the test isn't accurate, you're right, but for the wrong reasons. Yes the protective lining didn't rip and did rip, that doesn't matter. How many times have you scraped your knees through your jeans and the jeans didn't rip? You will still have a large amount of road rash in both scenarios. JEANS ARE NOT GEAR EVER.
Absolutely agree. These guys either reckon they'll never come off, or been lucky. I've come off in jeans, and they just shredded like tissue. I've got the scars to prove it. Never again. Only full leathers for me, thank you.
Agreed leather and race boots saved my life in a motorway spill. Jeans would have lasted seconds dragged down the road with my bike pinning me to the tarmac.
nigel cowles
Next time don't ride like Evel Knievel and you won't be pinned down and dragged 2 miles down the highway.
Thanks for this vid! Very helpfull and something more motorcyclists should see!
I have recently bought riding jeans as a reward fpr passing my driving test. I decided tp spend 400 bucks on AAA levl riding jeans from Dainese. I've never had an accident - thank God - but I still think they're worth every penny. They feel like a pair of joggers by the way. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
And that's how you do a review 👍🏾
I'd be curious how long most people slide when having to lay down a bike vs how much punishment you put those jeans through. The more expensive pair is better for being dragged behind a go kart, but what about laying down a bike going 40mph, 60mph, and 70mph.
It was a simple reality check. Thanks.
I don't own any riding jeans but after seeing this i really want a pair now, I've had lots of people tell me "just get aldi ones!" but nah sod that i'll keep my skin road rash free thanks.
I am wondering where I can find out what the ratings of Tobacco Motowear are since Tobacco won’t tell me.
I have not run across many brands that don’t list a rating but tobacco is one of them that don’t. I don’t know why but they cost a significant chunk of change and if I’m going to lay down that type of money, I definitely would like to know their CE A scale rating.
Do you know of a site that lists everybody who makes rider jeans - their CE A scale rating? If so I would really like to know this link or who it is that I need to ask.
Why not don a set of full leathers (as we know these work well) and then put on the outside the kevlar/non leather clothes to be tested and jump off the gokart?
+chris j Drop us a line and we'll film you doing it.
You'd need to compare the Aldi part lined jeans with some Hood part lined jeans. 2 different designs rather than cheap pair vs dearer pair. Of course fully lined jeans will fair better than part lined.
Thanks for posting this, I'm looking for armored jeans for my son so he ride with me
I dont know why people have said the test was a failure. I dont much about stuff like this but to me it got the point across more armor is better than less armor for less cash
wud be great to see a heavier dummy being dragged at 60 mph for 5-8 seconds on both the front and rear sides but this is an extreme example that proves a small investment in ur heath cud mean no road rash and wire brush to ur skin to clean out the debris. seems like a fair and wise investment to me.
They realy saved a bit to much on the aramid. Put some on the hot spots. How hard can it be?
can you do the same thing with some textiles? I've often wondered if I'm actually protected in my Alpinestars Andes?
I fell off last year wearing a textile jacket and fully lined jeans. I still wear the jeans every day because they're fine, the jacket is in landfill somewhere because it was fucked! Hope that answers your question!
the question is if being inside of the jeans and accident happens would I be dragged on for one circuit lap long until stop? I don't think so...
i think it's a good comparison test, it shows the difference in protection levels between the two. To all the people who made negative comments I can only say "Which pair would you rather be wearing if you found yourself sliding down the road on your arse?"
burned & scratched flesh will heal. a broken joint or ligament will heal to but not to the extent like before. if you do competitive sports for example. so the knee protectors are essentially the point of this whole product
Leathers is choice for me I got two pairs on ebay in excellent used condition 62 quid no rips or scrapes 🏍
Simply the best review
I'm definitely not gonna save money on Motorbike Jeans
4:53 Why the middle finger?
Iv'e got a pair of Draggin jeans and they are one of the best and original kevlar jeans, but they only have as much kevlar as the Aldi ones in the same places! :-/
+kidda74 You'll probably find they have a longer 'short' area, and that it's a complete 'unit'. These were a different construction. Personally, I prefer fully-lined jeans still though.
+MoreBikes.co.uk Oh I recently treated myself to a pair of Hood jeans and I'm very happy with them. The colour, the fit, the style they're just like a normal pair of good jeans to look at but with full protection. The armor that you get for them is good too without being too bulky!
Those denims drift like a boss. I don't know why, but I found that hilarious. I think all go kart racers should be made to tow 2 pairs of jeans during races. Nice job though, I'll have a pair of premium jeans please.
What brand was the premium pair of jeans that was fully lined with aramid?
Sounded like you said Hood’s but I couldn’t tell.
Yes! Hood
Regardless of how real life the test if its still a viable comparison. Oen is definitely better than the other. All the video claimed. Great job!
This is very interesting. I never ride without leathers and there's no way I'd wear Aldi jeans on a bike. Its a good test that highlights the difference between cheap and good gear.
Wish he did this on a more roughed up road instead of a perfectly smooth go cart track
Should have compared a regular pair of jeans too as your base line of comparison.....and since most people seem to ride in only regular jeans.
I get the intent, and ultimately the more expensive fully protected jeans will always offer better protection than ones without full protection, regardless of brand. However, this is such an unscientific test! For example, not once did you mention how long you were dragging them round for?! Based on this test, you literally cannot say that if you were wearing the Aldi jeans in a crash, that you would sustain more injuries than in the others!
Jeans are not made for riding. Aramid insert spawn from marketing, other than from real R&D.
Real riding pants are synthetic textiles. Highly abrasion resistant, slippery so when a rider falls they allow some slide, helps to minimize contusion, not sharp stoppage like jeans.
Jeans are easy to wear and look better though.
Also, more expensive is mostly the result of marketing costs.
For example. Alda from factory costs 9-10 US dollars a piece, while Hood K7 is 13-15 US dollars. Not pounds. I work as a senior sourcing manager of a reputable international apparel sourcing company. These are real facts.
I think normally the absolute longest slides will not go for much longer than 15 seconds (that's going speeds excess of 100 mph) it looked like he dragged those pants around for at least 40 seconds maybe even a minute all you have really shown is witch pants have excess armoring
Not concrete research, but it did prove a point. Buy cheap and suffer the consequences!
Nobody slides more than 10-15 meters at 60-100 km/h but I get your point, If you fall at higher speeds you MUST wear leathers or Textile with more protection
some guy says a person falling off a motorcycle going 60 mph doesn't slide more the 50 feet... I've never heard anything more asinine in my life!!! Hard braking at 60 mph takes about 40 meters
a person regular protective textile hits the ground at 60mph becomes a rag doll, slides and rolls, extremities overcome by g force uncontrollably at that speed and they open close along the way. That person has a huge combined contact patch versus his/her weight, plus the rag dollish rolling absorbs all the kinetic energy, which equates to bruise, sprain & strain, broken bones, dislocations.
So really, 50 feet makes sense. You can stitch up a human sized doll filled with sands with steel tube as bone structure, as accurate as possible, let it off the rear of a pick up truck at 70mph it won't go very far. And you'll find that the doll would be roughed up big time.
A racing suit on the other hand, is designed to slide and reduce roll. It has all the hard stuff at usual contact points, tough yet slippery leather, and supports that limit extemities' movement. But still, 5-10 more meters than textile would be the max.
A motorcycle has two-three times the inertia compare to a person. When emergency braking front dives hard renders rear tire almost useless, it's speed is reduced by a tiny contact patch, mostly front.
The same motorcycle, fit with 4 Formula 1 tires and brakes, theoretically can stop dead within 5 meters from 60mph, but the rider should be overcome by the braking g force and fly over the bar.
+Mitch Lee TUMBLING is not the same a SLIDING. Unless you ride on water, ice or with full leather at more than 120 km/h you dont SLIDE for more than 20m.
+Sebastián Demaría it's all good....
Mitch Lee you just got schooled by 2 people. It's all good.
Now get up to speed and throw them on the tarmac for the length of a typical slide (eg. about 100m)
What brand was the budget pair? I've got a pair of kevlar woven jeans that I ride in, but now I'm not so confident in them.
+DOG SPIT Please do feel free to do you own test. I've tried to explain the lack of science, repeatability, the fact that it's a comparison... but 'as many have stated', there are other opinions out there - the internet is full of them. Makes no odds to me - wear what you like.
+Dave Muldoon They're Aldi Dave. The aramid in them isn't actually that bad (as stated), but my problem with them is particularly where its sewn into the back. The seams here failed instantly, so as soon as the denim goes through, the aramid pulls up, exposing your bum. That's not the case with all part-lined jeans - some have a longer 'short' area.
They're better than normal jeans though. Personally, I prefer fully-lined jeans (which again was my point with this video) - they're what I wear on launches. Cheers, John
Proper motorcyclists never ride in denim, the invariably wear leather for their own protection. As for cost! How much is skin worth?
"proper", ha! us bloody amature jean wearing motorcylists!
Good quality jeans are just as good as leather while being cooler and more comfortable
Sorry, I wear jeans because I don't like the 'I've just shit myself " look when I get off my bike. Leather jacket, jeans, rst high tops.. Sorted.
'Proper' 'motorcyclists' - you what? Real Bikers have a pragmatic view and are prone to take risks - they ride motorcycles after all! Cost is always a factor. Or perhaps you'd be happytto wear these star trek forcefield jeans I just invented. You can drag them around a lap of the Nurburgring behind an F1 car without even scuffing them. yours for a cool billion US $.
yeh cause when you fall off a bike your going 50 mph getting slung around a never ending track for about 30 minutes yep very very accurate and to be honest the jeans out up a big fight so if it was a accident I doubt much damage would happen
Is there a shelf life for riding jeans? I've had my draggin jeans since the late 90s.
+HotrodADV71 Kevlar separates if it's hung, ballistic vests go bad after ~5 years being hung. Otherwise probably not.
Or just buy Kevlar liners/"leggings" and wear under any pantz
Does it work the same?
@@stefangiurgila7807 yeah it should. Look up bowtex kevlar leggings on youtube
@@roger201288 yeah i seen but i think the roadskin jeans are better as they are fully lined. but the bowtex arent bad either . u can wear any jeans you like with them
@@roger201288 The good thing with the leggings for commuting, is that you could quite easily take them off in the bathroom when you arrive at work, particularly in the summer.
Fully lined don't necessarily cost more. Should've weighed them down more to simulate an actual rider's weight. It would be great to test single layer jeans.
The budget one is my colour, I go for that.
+HunGerMovies Yeap! Protection is for pussies, I'd rather look cool dying. Trolalolalol
SSchithFoo Yeah, because your most important body parts are located in your legs, you break your leg and you are dead, because you will not be able to hunt for your daily prey again and you will starve to death.
did this man just say the most important body parts are in your legs?…
@@overknight5278 It's called sarcasm
This video was hilarious to watch. Puffy jeans drifting & whipping behind you.
It's all well and good, but you picked the crappiest of the budget jeans. My motocentric batallions were on sale for 40 bucks and have thicker denim and way more Kevlar.
This test certainly does not reflect what would happen in real world, but certainly illustrates the durability and the fact that you actually get what you pay for... More money = more durability and protection. Choice is individual to make.
how long did you drag these for? realistically a slide will only last a few seconds.
exactly...real test would be sew the cuffs closed fill with sand, sew closed drag for 30 seconds at 60 Mph and take a look...unless you plan on being chained behind a truck for a ten minute drag...
but nobody weights 20kg
I’ve worked in emergency medicine for 30 years I’ve never heard one person say gosh I wish I’d of had less protective equipment on. Do the research buy the best you can afford. Pay attention to your helmets and make sure that they are not counterfeit. I’ve ridden motorcycle my whole life I remember sliding down a gravel road on my helmet wondering am I ever going to stop. Buy the best you can afford and play the who’s going to kill me next game whenever you’re on the motorcycle because they are out there and they are stupid!
Hi, can you give me the brand of resistant jeans?
You got a link where to buy or have some made.?
I want to see this done with dyneema!
very informative! you did well. long story short. buy best gear you can find to protect you if shit hits the fan.
fantastic video...sold me on paying the extra...Thanx a lot Man !!!!
. . .I'd rather purchase the necessary materials/equipment before purchasing a bike.
. . .had a friend years ago who was sideswiped. Long story short, he borrowed my Levi's jacket and...
....when he hit the pavement, the jacket was destroyed with a matter of second.
I personally never ride aggressively and have received more injuries riding on the dirt vs. on the street.
Good luck and watch out for old ladies and texters.
I've slid about 20metres down the road in a tee shirt and shorts before.
Despite the road rash, I've still be known to squid it.
You should have done this test with sandbags. No one's lower body is sliding with 20kg of pressure against the ground.
What if you bought an expensive pair of part lined jeans. What would that mean?
Ieuan Mark Mills even if they're still part lined? What does the more expensive price mean? That the weaving is better ?? I mean I'd never buy a £30 pair of motorcycle trousers haha I'd rather pay £100 they say you get what you pay for after all. I was just wondering whether £30 part lined jeans and £100 part lined jeans where any different. And what's the best things to look out for
xsassyxbluex means that you were ripped off
+xsassyxbluex Many more expensive part-lined jeans have a longer 'short' area at the bum, and are a complete short in themselves - that should mean they stay in place better. Personally though, I much prefer fully-lined.
When aldi due to start selling these again they looking pretty decent to be fair if ya gonna fall off not gonna cover 10 lengths if gokart track
This proves that if you want to get dragged around a race track buy hoods ,but if you fall off a bike and just slide a short distance get the cheap ones
Awesome way to demonstrate.
Ride magazine used to do some very good testing, seem to have taken a more lax approach nowadays.... Begs the question, what's behind this - manufacturers spitting their dummy out, or apathy.... ? ? ?
Really glad i saw this video, planned on being dragged around by a GoKart at 50mph for 10 mins next week by my feet. Know what I'll be buying.
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How fast does one have to be going to slide a quarter mile? I assuming he went once around the track which is astronomically further than a person would actually slide. If he went any further (several laps) then he is right. This is not scientific.
i tumbled and slid down the highway at 70-90kph and the only damage to my jeans was my right knee when i first hit the pavement hard.. after that just some slight wear
just normal jeans. but riding jeans would be better
+James W I've had mates do the same and be fine too. But I fell off at about 10mph on a small roundabout after changing my tyres (fitted them myself, and forgot I'd done them five minutes later!) - the jeans holed instantly and I tore my knee. Nothing serious, but I wear decent quality aramid jeans on launches as we're not hanging about. It's entirely everybody's own choice what to wear.
MoreBikes.co.uk yeah ill be buying proper jeans this year or next. but for now jeans are fine. and yes its all about what someone prefers
Prefer your skin on, or off?
I wear the 30 quid jean with kevlar positioned at usual contact points but mine has built in pocket that come with small soft knee pad, and hip protection. Nevertheless I like to use long knee guard that extends to protect my shin bone, outside or inside the jean. because I've seen my friend's right leg broke into three pieces when he low sided and hit a barrier at low speed. His entire knee was smashed is replaced with an artificial one. He can no longer ride in this life.
Simple, good point.
Great video. It has certainly made my mind up.
Not everyone can afford top clothing, Aldi jeans are better than not having any protection. I wear textiles, better VFM and protection.
I work as a senior sourcing manager of a reputable sourcing company. We sourced both the hood jeans and Alda. From various factories, the Hood K7 in the video, costs 13-15 US dollars, not GBPs.
The Alda costs 9-10 US dollars a piece.
They are made in Vietnam, Bangladesh, cambodia, etc, etc.
Jeans are not designed for riding, premium or not. Denim simply has too much grip to the pavement. They look cool and easy to use though.
Real riding pants are synthetic textiles or leathers. They are highly abrasion resistant, slippery so injury from contusion is minimized. They do not need marketing bullshit material like aramid. They also have built in remove-able wash-able reuse-able guards. Additional knee-shin guards are highly recommended.
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Sam McCartney Exelent reply I'm a old git budget biker and I research bike gear, a lot which is rebadged as you say on Asian garments and hiked up in price
£130 PPE is less expensive than a several thousand pound motorcycle or skin grafts for that matter.
clanmac66 If you cant afford quality gear you can’t afford to ride. Your life is on the line kid.
Testing to failure is valid methodology. The important bit here is how they failed, not how much they took before they failed. The partially lined pair had catastrophic failure before the fully lined pair, so now we know that there's no gimmick here, the fully lined perform better under abrasion. The lining ripping at seams is important, and is a design concern during even professional grade leathers design. A suit is only as strong as its most vulnerable seam... and these cheap pants illustrate that perfectly.
In conclusion your all buttes.
+McBrappin True, but the gear is not what matters, i dont see how everyone misses the fact that we're talking about the skin underneath the jeans. Even though the jeans' lining stood up, your skin will not. We all have tripped or fallen off our bicycle as a kid with jeans on and still ended up road rashed and bloody underneath without any tears or rips in the jeans. The fact of the matter is, jeans are not gear. If you are going to protect your body, wear leather or vinyl, not cotton.
+Mark Banks The laws of physics elude you.
+Mark Banks You may want to come off that soap box, man.
False. Anybody with an axe to grind can design a "test" that will favor one thing over another. Stuffed jeans are not even remotely the same as jeans with flesh and bone inside. the shape is different, the pressure points are different, literally *everything* is different. There is nothing useful about this "test".
if your body ONLY did that in an accident that would be cool. But ya coming down & grinding on that point. Me like we have more options now. thanks for the heads up for safety!!!
if you can afford Good gear GET IT... Better safe then sorry... there are some people (idiots) stating it's not necessary... Common sense is to get great gear and not need it, then to have sub par gear and and end up in the hospital and thinking if I only spent a few more dollars on good gear you wouldn't be in the hospital spending 100 times more on medical cost plus the injuries you wouldn't have if you had the right gear... BETTER SAFE THEN SORRY
You didn't leave a solution for those who can't afford your so called '"good gears" Most people don't have 800 to 1 thousand GBP to spare. What's your solution to that?
+golferchin76 you must be the special boy from your village...
+golferchin76 what do you think???
+golferchin76 you are a one of a kind cursed idiot.... the village idiot that brings bad luck to everyone you meet. .
Mitch Lee
Don't deviate from the question. There are PLENTY riders who can't afford premium goods. What's your take on that? Tell them to fuck off and don't ride?
Is 3 your lucky number or something? That you can't combine your words properly in one post and must separate them into 3. I feel that you kind of have gone more crazy from reading my replies. Where the hate come from? Are you a wife and child beater?