Great idea! I'd like to see it on a dual Trolley track (like a pocket door). This would allow you to add say a garden tool organizer, peg board, etc behind it, and still have full access.
You did a great job Sir, and I enjoyed you building these shelves. Your garage is turning out to be very organized, clean and an ideal space for you to work in. I hope you are well. 🇨🇦💝🇺🇸👍
Oh, I'm using this idea. BTW on the smaller threaded rod you can just nick off the leading part of the thread at the very top and a nut will start fine. I used to cut tons of it and we would use the cutters on our wire strippers to chop off that top 1/8 of thread and a nut starts fine. Was cutting with a portaband saw though
Super idea. What I really like is that I keep some plywood pieces around just to have on hand. ....those pieces can sit for months on end without being needed. At this very moment I have loose plywood pieces being moved from one end of the garage to the other as they are always in the way.
Two small things I think would make it slightly better. The initial bolts that came through the ceiling would have nuts and washers on the bottom making them very secure to the 2x4. The second would be a thread locker on the couplers. This would stop the threaded rod from pushing the bolt up and also allow you to thread the rod into the coupler from the floor and eliminate the use of a wrench to hold the coupler as you thread the rod. I know this is nitpicking and would not be necessary but small things like this can make a job go much smoother.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 I was thinking more about movement or lifting during assembly or future disassembly. I know after the shelves are in place they would not be necessary. But I tend to overbuild things because I have friends who can sometimes be like a bull in glass house....
Just found your channel as I'm laying out my plans for my garage "makeover". Almost remodel at this point lol I just watched your original video for these shelves, and someone said they were a garage door serviceman and advised you to leave at least 1ft from the garage so they can access it. You responded and said you'd keep that in mind if you did it again. I remember thinking, yea like he's going to do it again or even remember that comment if he does... And here we are on Shelves 2.0 and you not only remembered, you followed through. For some reason, that's just so cool to me lol
Shallow shelves are awesome for storage like that - I made a cabinet (roughly 4ft wide, 5ft tall) with double doors. Shelves in the cabinet back, and inside the doors. None of the shelves are deeper than a spray can (+ ~1/2"). Put a few heights for 'normal' and tall cans. Now, NOTHING can end up in front of another! I simply open the doors and find the can I need... no routing about, pushing things around finding what I need! I actually save money by not re-buying something I already had and just couldn't find it. I keep a dixie cup on a shelf too for putting the nozzles of empty cans after cleaning them.
Nice and thanks for posting, gives me some ideas. I could add my 2 cents about what I'd have done differently but that wouldn't be fair, given the absolute mess that is my garage. LOL. Luckily, my wife is a patient saint.
Boy, ...at first glance I thought this was just another, "just because you can doesn't mean you should" kind of video. The kind that people reach for just to get current content produced. BUT... the longer I watched, the more application this design has for MY situation. I especially love that you made the valence "cubby" up there for things like MORE threaded rod, or fishing rods, dowels, pipe, etc... The fact that the bottom struts are tightened up on the threaded rods and against the cubby- not just hung there- I envision that, though the shelf will rock a bit, it shouldn't rock a LOT. The rear-size ladder and plywood space? Very nicely thought out! Mounting it off the exterior (front) wall was genius, too, for longer stock storage, or, in my case, the often-needed 500W LED spotlight to sit on its tripod! Someone who doesn't store plywood or has a place for their ladders: they could box in the back with end-accessible shelves for longer stock, too. Good ideas Scott, and nice execution! Way to think outside the box for everything in the box we end up stuffing full of things!
Thank you so much for your comment. They have served me well. They don’t rock much. You have to really try to wedge something in too tight to get them to move. I am a projects guy so I use the cubby for pieces of wood and conduit that I don’t want to throw away.
Yes, MDF stands for medium density fiberboard, and it's heavier than 7 ply cabinet grade. But what's even lighter and simplifies the process is 1×6. No ripping is necessary. I'm not sure about the cost but time is money. And providing 3 feet for the garage repairman is not necessary either as they only need to be able to get a hand or drill in the space. All of it is accessible from the inside of the track. I have installed nearly 100 garage doors, so I know.
I always just roll the threaded rod against the side of the metal cutting blade to achieve the chamfer. Easier and cheaper. I hung HVAC duct for years.
Pretty brilliant idea. However for the amount of trades that I do I'd need about 400 of these in my garage. Sometimes I wish I didn't know how to do as much as I do so I had more storage space. But again, this is pretty cool.
@@ScottsGarage17 I did not mean that in a "your doing it wrong" I just mean there is a way cheaper way to get the results. Your way looks better so if its a display piece your way is better. I also really enjoy your videos I learn a lot from them.
I like this shelving idea. Using wood glue would be a lot more effective. Screws alone wouldn’t be stable. Particularly on the backside. Preventing sagging. I especially like the method of hanging it from ceiling. The tensile compression was what finally made it make sense. Initially I thought it was suspended at the top. Which, if the only things on the shelves was lightweight items, which would eventually become heavier, seemed fully dependent upon the threads of the rods. But as I saw you having the bottom be 2x4s, I thought that it would swing. The tightening of the bottom nuts makes it very firm. But the cubby is a large wasted space. Leaving the forward side open add many more cubic feet of space, and it’s still a solid ‘foundation’ if built properly. The true best thing is the fact that flat materials can be easily moved in and around. My garbage is forever semi concealed by the stockpile of plywood as I work or between projects and the plywood is always leaning against something and forever in my way.
A word of caution when cutting small or round material on a miter saw. Space the fence out 2-3" with scrap board so that the blade is cutting on the down and back stroke not the up and back stroke. The blade can lift the material and create binding or make round material spin and bind. Wood miter saws run at 4000 to 6000 rpm and steel saw run at 1000 to 1500 rpm. Check for compatible speeds for saw blade be for use. Running a fiber blade faster than rated speed can have unintended resalts.
Pretty cool. I think I'd like to do this but replace as much wood as possible with other materials. Probably superstrut for the very bottom (conveniently right next to the threaded rod at the store), but i guess probably not much other than wood is valid for the rest.
11:00 I would have locked those bolts to the 2x4 with another set of washers and nuts from the underside. It was unclear how you kept them from spinning when attaching the rods.
If you’re in a pinch or have threads that the chamfer don’t work on, just hit the end after cutting with a flap wheel on a grinder. It cleans up the edge easily and lets you rethread again too
3.0 idea… with unistrut trolley to ceiling, ‘layer’ 2 or more shelf units, mount each to trolley so each unit can roll left or right allowing access to the unit(s) layered behind. Depths of each determined by what is stored on. 🤷🏻♀️
Are these 'Smart' shelves using any home automation like the term 'Smart' conventionally means? I didn't see if the retract or have motion controlled lighting.
I'm a patreon member and I can assure you that these shelves fully integrate into my home automation system. Members only. I see that you are truly a Member.
Sounds like these are more the 'traditional' kind of smart. Meaning they're smart in real time and don't have to wait for a response in the cloud from China.
I'm with BruceLyeg on this, Great Idea! That little bit of space is all that is needed to store away those one of a kind things....that are always looking for a home.
The thing people forget about MDF is, it's very porous. Obviously all wood is to some degree, but MDF must be painted or otherwise sealed to prevent it from warping or getting stupid heavy from ambient humidity.
Assuming this is an "old" garage, what is the ceiling joist sizing? Most modern day garages have trusses where the allowable loading is only sheet rock. How much weight is being hung from the ceiling just?
I would have reinforced the weight bearing ability of the bottom shelf. 7 paint cans on that shelf and any other thing would probably put a strain on the rabbets. Otherwise this is a great build. I''ll steal the idea :)
On my garage door I used insulation foam sheets inserted into each panel. Along with the insulation and double 5/8” drywall in my garage, I can have a planer and the dust collection both running,, and not worry about neighbors or family at even 2am. 100dB in garage and about 60 10ft from garage door measurement, and less inside my living room. A shared wall.
Nah you guys are inbred. Chevrolet, chevron, chef, chandelier, chamfer, chassis. They're French words so they're pronounced the French way, just like I know you pronounce Arkansas and Kansas differently because you respect the French heritage
Don’t understand why you hung it from the ceiling. Does it swing/wiggle when any contact. Why would it not be anchored to the wall? Seems like the space behind it would have very limited use and be pretty much wasted space.
The shelves don’t swing. I am a projects guy and I don’t lie throwing cutoff pieces away. I will fully utilize the space behind the shelves scrap pieces of lumber and plywood.
I don't understand why I have seen this comment a few times. If you guys can't understand construction, then why are you watching these kind of videos? Why tf would it swing? Did he attach it to a door hinge? There is probably more support in the shelving unit he made than the garage walls...
I cut 1/2 inch threaded rod at work all the time with a portable bandsaw, or worst case, a hacksaw. Might have to kiss it with a file, if I'm having a bad day.
The assembly of the shelf box is good but the overall hanging/ mount idea is over engineered as they say. A simple screw to wall or French cleat system would suffice. The only benefit I see of your design is stacking sheet goods behind. Credit to you on your video and demonstration.
I know it is notpicky but the word "chamfer" is pronounced like "champ-fer" not "camp-fer". You say is as if the H was silent somehow. I had to go look it up and the standard way to pronounce that word is the hard "ch" sound as in choo-choo or chosen or change, etc. I dont know why it made me wince every time you said it wrong. LOL Otherwise, fantastic idea and video!
fixed location non-automated storage is not smart storage, this is just a hanging shelf. additionally, knocking off the burrs from the threaded rod can be done with simple sandpaper, either by hand or your power tool of choice, including a normal drill or handheld rotary tool (i.e. dremel)
Another way, not as easy, to chamfer the end of the rods, is to use a belt sander. Hold the rod at 45 degrees, and grind the chamfer on, rotating by hand...
Great idea! I'd like to see it on a dual Trolley track (like a pocket door). This would allow you to add say a garden tool organizer, peg board, etc behind it, and still have full access.
We had a similar garage interior and finally painted the ceiling and walls white. What a difference it made for us!
You did a great job Sir, and I enjoyed you building these shelves. Your garage is turning out to be very organized, clean and an ideal space for you to work in. I hope you are well. 🇨🇦💝🇺🇸👍
Oh, I'm using this idea. BTW on the smaller threaded rod you can just nick off the leading part of the thread at the very top and a nut will start fine. I used to cut tons of it and we would use the cutters on our wire strippers to chop off that top 1/8 of thread and a nut starts fine. Was cutting with a portaband saw though
That chamfer tool is going to be a must purchase, thanks for sharing and awesome shelving too.
The channel “Silver Cymbal” reviewed that same chamfer tool and he loved it.
Super idea.
What I really like is that I keep some plywood pieces around just to have on hand. ....those pieces can sit for months on end without being needed. At this very moment I have loose plywood pieces being moved from one end of the garage to the other as they are always in the way.
Two small things I think would make it slightly better. The initial bolts that came through the ceiling would have nuts and washers on the bottom making them very secure to the 2x4. The second would be a thread locker on the couplers. This would stop the threaded rod from pushing the bolt up and also allow you to thread the rod into the coupler from the floor and eliminate the use of a wrench to hold the coupler as you thread the rod.
I know this is nitpicking and would not be necessary but small things like this can make a job go much smoother.
Absolutely no need for nuts and washers. On the bottom side, the shelves aren't made from helium. They aren't going to lift
@@jasonmorehouse3756 I was thinking more about movement or lifting during assembly or future disassembly. I know after the shelves are in place they would not be necessary. But I tend to overbuild things because I have friends who can sometimes be like a bull in glass house....
Google Sammy’s threaded rod anchors GST-20
Just found your channel as I'm laying out my plans for my garage "makeover". Almost remodel at this point lol
I just watched your original video for these shelves, and someone said they were a garage door serviceman and advised you to leave at least 1ft from the garage so they can access it. You responded and said you'd keep that in mind if you did it again.
I remember thinking, yea like he's going to do it again or even remember that comment if he does...
And here we are on Shelves 2.0 and you not only remembered, you followed through. For some reason, that's just so cool to me lol
Shallow shelves are awesome for storage like that - I made a cabinet (roughly 4ft wide, 5ft tall) with double doors. Shelves in the cabinet back, and inside the doors. None of the shelves are deeper than a spray can (+ ~1/2"). Put a few heights for 'normal' and tall cans.
Now, NOTHING can end up in front of another! I simply open the doors and find the can I need... no routing about, pushing things around finding what I need! I actually save money by not re-buying something I already had and just couldn't find it. I keep a dixie cup on a shelf too for putting the nozzles of empty cans after cleaning them.
As they say: THIS! ⬆
Nice and thanks for posting, gives me some ideas. I could add my 2 cents about what I'd have done differently but that wouldn't be fair, given the absolute mess that is my garage. LOL. Luckily, my wife is a patient saint.
I like you're thinking, and execution
. Thank you for your time and effort.
Nice design, I like the continuous improvement mindset. With the cost of real estate now days it’s important to maximize space. 👍
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing this project!
Boy, ...at first glance I thought this was just another, "just because you can doesn't mean you should" kind of video. The kind that people reach for just to get current content produced. BUT... the longer I watched, the more application this design has for MY situation. I especially love that you made the valence "cubby" up there for things like MORE threaded rod, or fishing rods, dowels, pipe, etc... The fact that the bottom struts are tightened up on the threaded rods and against the cubby- not just hung there- I envision that, though the shelf will rock a bit, it shouldn't rock a LOT. The rear-size ladder and plywood space? Very nicely thought out! Mounting it off the exterior (front) wall was genius, too, for longer stock storage, or, in my case, the often-needed 500W LED spotlight to sit on its tripod! Someone who doesn't store plywood or has a place for their ladders: they could box in the back with end-accessible shelves for longer stock, too. Good ideas Scott, and nice execution! Way to think outside the box for everything in the box we end up stuffing full of things!
Thank you so much for your comment. They have served me well. They don’t rock much. You have to really try to wedge something in too tight to get them to move. I am a projects guy so I use the cubby for pieces of wood and conduit that I don’t want to throw away.
great plans and smart build. much appreciated
Yes, MDF stands for medium density fiberboard, and it's heavier than 7 ply cabinet grade. But what's even lighter and simplifies the process is 1×6. No ripping is necessary. I'm not sure about the cost but time is money. And providing 3 feet for the garage repairman is not necessary either as they only need to be able to get a hand or drill in the space. All of it is accessible from the inside of the track. I have installed nearly 100 garage doors, so I know.
Great idea, never thought to hang a shelf in front of the stored sheet goods.
Awesome design, awesome tutorial build video…!
Thank you sir.
I always just roll the threaded rod against the side of the metal cutting blade to achieve the chamfer. Easier and cheaper. I hung HVAC duct for years.
Yeah only problem with that is you wanted a chamfor on there where he obviously didn't, he wanted a camphor lol
Pretty brilliant idea. However for the amount of trades that I do I'd need about 400 of these in my garage. Sometimes I wish I didn't know how to do as much as I do so I had more storage space. But again, this is pretty cool.
THanks for the details
What a great idea thanks for sharing.
Great idea 👍👍
Looks great and different, thought you were going with a french cleat when I first seen it.
Awesome job
I use threaded rods all the time. You are over thinking the problem. just file off the burs with a small file.
Maybe so.
@@ScottsGarage17 I did not mean that in a "your doing it wrong" I just mean there is a way cheaper way to get the results. Your way looks better so if its a display piece your way is better. I also really enjoy your videos I learn a lot from them.
the sped up footage sounds like you're on a Formula 1 track sometimes. Haha, love the design and great video! Keep up the good work.
I thought they were hungry cats outside.
I like this shelving idea. Using wood glue would be a lot more effective. Screws alone wouldn’t be stable. Particularly on the backside. Preventing sagging.
I especially like the method of hanging it from ceiling.
The tensile compression was what finally made it make sense.
Initially I thought it was suspended at the top. Which, if the only things on the shelves was lightweight items, which would eventually become heavier, seemed fully dependent upon the threads of the rods.
But as I saw you having the bottom be 2x4s, I thought that it would swing.
The tightening of the bottom nuts makes it very firm.
But the cubby is a large wasted space. Leaving the forward side open add many more cubic feet of space, and it’s still a solid ‘foundation’ if built properly.
The true best thing is the fact that flat materials can be easily moved in and around.
My garbage is forever semi concealed by the stockpile of plywood as I work or between projects and the plywood is always leaning against something and forever in my way.
A word of caution when cutting small or round material on a miter saw. Space the fence out 2-3" with scrap board so that the blade is cutting on the down and back stroke not the up and back stroke. The blade can lift the material and create binding or make round material spin and bind. Wood miter saws run at 4000 to 6000 rpm and steel saw run at 1000 to 1500 rpm. Check for compatible speeds for saw blade be for use. Running a fiber blade faster than rated speed can have unintended resalts.
Pretty cool. I think I'd like to do this but replace as much wood as possible with other materials. Probably superstrut for the very bottom (conveniently right next to the threaded rod at the store), but i guess probably not much other than wood is valid for the rest.
11:00 I would have locked those bolts to the 2x4 with another set of washers and nuts from the underside. It was unclear how you kept them from spinning when attaching the rods.
If you’re in a pinch or have threads that the chamfer don’t work on, just hit the end after cutting with a flap wheel on a grinder. It cleans up the edge easily and lets you rethread again too
When you waved your arm behind the shelves I about fell out of my chair.
Awesome thank you ❤
3.0 idea… with unistrut trolley to ceiling, ‘layer’ 2 or more shelf units, mount each to trolley so each unit can roll left or right allowing access to the unit(s) layered behind. Depths of each determined by what is stored on. 🤷🏻♀️
Are these 'Smart' shelves using any home automation like the term 'Smart' conventionally means? I didn't see if the retract or have motion controlled lighting.
I'm a patreon member and I can assure you that these shelves fully integrate into my home automation system. Members only. I see that you are truly a Member.
Sounds like these are more the 'traditional' kind of smart. Meaning they're smart in real time and don't have to wait for a response in the cloud from China.
@@partonkevinyou certainly have the ‘member’ mentality, maybe tool is the proper term.
Those chamfer tools work well. I have 3 different brands, and they all do a good job. A bench grinder will also do a good job but takes longer.
That's a great idea
I'm with BruceLyeg on this, Great Idea!
That little bit of space is all that is needed to store away those one of a kind things....that are always looking for a home.
Fantastic video sir.
Pretty neat idea
Another good way to get rid of burs on the threaded rods is a bench grinder pass it thru the wire brush
A fine grit bit attachment on a drill, fine grinder stone on grinder, a metal file, plenty of ways to get it without buying a single use tool.
@@STV-H4H Absolutely
@3:46: That's 3' 6"?
A bastard cut file is all you need to debur the all thread… a couple of passes while rotating the rod and you’re good.
The thing people forget about MDF is, it's very porous. Obviously all wood is to some degree, but MDF must be painted or otherwise sealed to prevent it from warping or getting stupid heavy from ambient humidity.
Did you use 1/2 odb on the garage ceiling ?
5/8
@@ScottsGarage17 thanks
Assuming this is an "old" garage, what is the ceiling joist sizing? Most modern day garages have trusses where the allowable loading is only sheet rock. How much weight is being hung from the ceiling just?
How much play/ wobble is there? I'd guess I'd want to brace it against the back wall. I bump into things.
Not much at all. If I really push on the bottom I can get them to move. They don’t wobble at all opening and closing the garage door.
I would say that since they are threaded rods, they are more Ridgid. If it was rope or would swing like crazy.
What makes them smart?
I would have reinforced the weight bearing ability of the bottom shelf. 7 paint cans on that shelf and any other thing would probably put a strain on the rabbets. Otherwise this is a great build. I''ll steal the idea :)
What is the cover on the garage doors?
Might be for sound or insulation
On my garage door I used insulation foam sheets inserted into each panel. Along with the insulation and double 5/8” drywall in my garage, I can have a planer and the dust collection both running,, and not worry about neighbors or family at even 2am.
100dB in garage and about 60 10ft from garage door measurement, and less inside my living room. A shared wall.
I was thinking it retracted up into the attic above the garage.
It’s pronounced “Ch”amfered as in “Cheese”. Just sayin’.
That was making my eye twitch.
Nah you guys are inbred. Chevrolet, chevron, chef, chandelier, chamfer, chassis.
They're French words so they're pronounced the French way, just like I know you pronounce Arkansas and Kansas differently because you respect the French heritage
Thank you for pointing this out. I now see that any content of this video is useless because of this issue. I'll move on to a video that can help.
More like “sh” if you want to be technical on the pronunciation
Don’t understand why you hung it from the ceiling. Does it swing/wiggle when any contact. Why would it not be anchored to the wall? Seems like the space behind it would have very limited use and be pretty much wasted space.
The shelves don’t swing. I am a projects guy and I don’t lie throwing cutoff pieces away. I will fully utilize the space behind the shelves scrap pieces of lumber and plywood.
I don't understand why I have seen this comment a few times. If you guys can't understand construction, then why are you watching these kind of videos? Why tf would it swing? Did he attach it to a door hinge? There is probably more support in the shelving unit he made than the garage walls...
I cut 1/2 inch threaded rod at work all the time with a portable bandsaw, or worst case, a hacksaw. Might have to kiss it with a file, if I'm having a bad day.
Are you related to the My Pillow 2.0 guy ?
For the love of God, it's chamfer not camphor FFS
Easy Hermione! 😂🤭
Chamfer your wood, camphor your chest 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow someone is easily triggered 😳
Wait, it's not?!
But that's how my dad said it, and my mentor, and my 2nd grade teacher, and the chaplain.....
put a nut on the all thread before you make your cut then back it off over the cut.. done
I wonder if only 2 rods would be sufficient.
For the weight, yes, but not for rigidity. If you don't want yourselves to wobble you would want four attachment points
The assembly of the shelf box is good but the overall hanging/ mount idea is over engineered as they say. A simple screw to wall or French cleat system would suffice. The only benefit I see of your design is stacking sheet goods behind. Credit to you on your video and demonstration.
I know it is notpicky but the word "chamfer" is pronounced like "champ-fer" not "camp-fer". You say is as if the H was silent somehow. I had to go look it up and the standard way to pronounce that word is the hard "ch" sound as in choo-choo or chosen or change, etc. I dont know why it made me wince every time you said it wrong. LOL Otherwise, fantastic idea and video!
What makes these smart?
fixed location non-automated storage is not smart storage, this is just a hanging shelf.
additionally, knocking off the burrs from the threaded rod can be done with simple sandpaper, either by hand or your power tool of choice, including a normal drill or handheld rotary tool (i.e. dremel)
Another way, not as easy, to chamfer the end of the rods, is to use a belt sander.
Hold the rod at 45 degrees, and grind the chamfer on, rotating by hand...
3:31
Content starts around 2:0
So just regular shelves
Would have been cooler if they retracted into ceiling.
I’m trying to figure out what’s actually smart about them….
@destroy43…me too! 21mins and don’t understand any of the smart reference.
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Wafer Board “1/4😂
I don't understand your joke
c-ham-fer say it back fast 5 times
Not sure whats smart about shelves
5/8 ... 23/32... "Americans" will never realize how dumb their system is.
So sliding shelves? Whats smart? Is there no tech involved? Meh, not smart at all lmao.