I find X4 Foundations to be one of the most frustrating games I've ever played and yet the payoff has amounted to this possibly being one of my top 2 or 3 games of all time. It's difficult to get started, it doesn't hold your hand (putting it mildly), you have to take night community classes to learn this beast, but the reward is so worth it. I have put Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky, Empyrion, and Star Citizen on the back-burner for this game.
Have you played X Rebirth before? Let me tell you, as someone who just bought it recently, some of the basic mechanics in X4 are like the final exam of the top university in X Rebirth. Everything you think is hard in X4 is downright impossible in X Rebirth. I'm absolutely honest here, once you play and understand the basics of XR you realize just how easy and user firendly X4 really is. I just can't stress it enough.
*I stop playing all other space games for X4* X4 is the very best. The big advantage of X4 is that you can play the part you want without worrying about how the universe will change when you are not there. I LOVE IT. Sin of a Solar is very good; however, you can not visit any of the stations or fly a ship. The Learning Curve is WORTH IT. This is the best space game I have ever played in my life.
Played all X series and X4 is so much fun and beautiful. You can literally watch the hymes of millions of laser melting away ships from the open deck of your fleet carrier.
To be fair. They are like 20 people in the studio and they make the x games and nothing else. All their budget come from the previous games... for over two decades now... Just imagine what they could do if they had star citizens budget.
You could end world hunger with SC's budget. You could discover/implement Fusion Nuclear energy in a mass scale with SC's budget. You could build 12 Juliter Class Battlestars with SC's Budget.
Never played the X series until X4 but it is my top game of all time now, I really hope they keep adding to it because people are starting to realize how amazing this game is
@@paulmcdonald4608 Yeah, X series takes a while: it's not really beginner friendly (you need terran conflict for an easier start), and most important: do not feel pressured to do the main quest: most important things at the beginning are credits, not doing the main quest: you need tons of money.
picked up reunion in a bargain bin a long time ago and it took me a while to get started with it, but yes it is like taking a night course at community college, but the resources are out there and yes it is worth every second because once you get the hang of it…well i would love sitting at my screen having my morning cup of coffee and feeling like i was sitting on the bridge of my starship…i still have it loaded up on my computer and will definitely be heading out to space again soon😊😊😊
As someone who was also really overwhelmed by the UI, I implore you to stick with it and learn. Once you get used to it, it's more clunky than overwhelming. And it's so rewarding to watch your fleets grow, along with your bank account. This went from being an obscure game in my steam library, to one of, if not my favorite game OF ALL TIME. It's THAT good!
I need the scope of X4 and the Scale of ED and No Mans Sky to combine with the depth and detail of Star Citizen. Also with the empire building I need to be able to build out and manage an entire planet. Research technology trees for planetary defense. Build orbital defense platforms. Grow and manage planetary npcs that fill the roles on the planet. Bam!!
Bad bug Ive got yesterday (in july 2022): I bought a big mining ship and was onboard on foot. When I wanted to get out in space with my suit, the exterial door didnt open and I was stuck in the little space suit airlock, clipping inside the ship geometry. I couldnt get out at all and had to reload. Very frustrating. But the game is still mega fun, which I did not expected. And I really like the singleplayer aspect. That is something you hardly get nowdays with such a title. As you mentioned, Elite is online, Star Citizen is online, Eve is, well, its name is Eve online ^^ But X? That is something for the hearts of the real singleplayer fans who dont want to get ganked by frikkin overpowered and bored players all the time. Which call themselves "pirates" and propagate their right to kill every small player from the get go in the forums (Yes, this happened)
I played a lot of X3TC many years ago and bought X4 but hardly played it. Got back into it recently and have become addicted. I'm at a point now where I spend most of my game time being flown around on one of my capital ships looking at a map or sitting in my personal office 😅 Was planning on getting a hotas set-up for this and msfs2020 but because I hardly pilot my own ships any more I don't know if its worth it
I'm new to X series, but this game got me addicted, and i still not figured out everything yet. Lasta night i was playing and i was helping the PAR faction to conquer HOP territory, and i was piloting only a Syn destroyer, at first you think you can use the same strategy as you do for a fighter, but nope, you need to adjust your tactics to the hulking beast that the syn is, even though, once you tame the beast, it becomes unstoppable. The turrets would do the job to deal with small ships, while the main guns are to be used in stations and larger ships, but combat still can be very engaging and strategic. For example, in one fight last night i was battling a odysseus destroyer, when i notice that some 20 km away another one was heading to my way. My shields where down when i finished the first Odysseus, i could try to evade the odysseus shots at long distance but this would only delay the inevitable... So, what i did? I hit travel mode and run pass the odysseus, w.hen i pas by it, I disable the flight assistant, and turn shooting the Odysseus, ended up right behind him, and i made short work of their engines, and soon after the Odysseus was no more. See? Theres a lot of things going on in X4, and sometimes you need to be clever and use you knowledge of the game mechanics to do some amazing stuff. Also, after finishing the battle i hade to lick my syn wounds, it took a lot of damage, so i put my space wheelchair and went to fix turrets, the engine. Also i think egosoft guys should add a command to hold the repair drones, because the spawn automatically when your ship start to take damage and they get destroyed very easily, especially when large things go boom in close proximity of your ship, the shield ships can take the damage, but the drones don't. One mode that i added to the game is the escape pod mod, with this one you are automatically and can escape the battle with your crew, wich is way more grounded than be teleported outside the ship, while your crew burns.
Once you have unlocked Teleportation you can simply teleport out of sector and back (provided you have something to teleport close enough by, that problem is gone at the third stage of the research though), on re-entering the sector your vessel will be placed outside the station. For that, you have to play the HQ plot of course, but you need the HQ for so many things, better start early. After the first million or so... Yes, those weird necks are bad, especially when they lean forward like in the Bars XD
you can do a custom start and just skip the PHQ part if you've already done it in previous playthroughs. it doesn't affect the storylines from the expansions. but the expansion starts are 100% unique and I love that... The stranded start immediately acclimates you to using a spacesuit and pirating and stealing new vessels.
I'm sick of all the competition. The PERFECT space game is virtually objective. Huge, preferably endless systems so numerous a whole population could never discover everything in one lifetime not even nearly. High fidelity and large scale planetary landings. No faking the horizon because that IS the horizon, no loading screens. What you see in orbit represents what you get on the ground. Comprehensive ship interiors and survival mechanics. Food, drink and rest as well as ships being real ships with reql functions, akin to Starship Simulator or Stat Citizen. Realistic economy and world, such as Elite Dangerous. With large scale powerplay always being run. A lot of issues but the way that game employs space politics as well as the scale is absolutely unrivalled and should not be ignored. Construction, like Space Engineers but more. Stations, bases, fighters, capital ships all being built and sold and published from player creations, like Dual Universe. And too many more to mention. But any space game fan would find no issue in these features and with octo core CPUs, 32gb of Ram and 8-12gb of VRAM being recommended specs in the next few years, I'd argue such a game will be possible if all the people that made all these come together. Don't compete, collaborate.
The game checks all of the boxes for me. I love simulation and sandbox rpgs with empire building mechanics. Word of warning however; X4 is not optimized and slows down during the late game and large battles and lowering graphical settings does little to help. The devs have not given us much reason for optimism regarding increased performance as the problems seem to be hard coded in the engine. I am going to hold off playing until I upgrade my PC later this year with the release of the next generation of CPU's and GPU's. There is also a Star Wars overhaul mod called Interworlds, that is worth checking out since I know this channel posts SWG videos. Interworlds is close to releasing the next update which promises new races and ships. If you have always wanted to command a star destroyer or mon calamari cruiser, this is your game.
@@napyet the next update for the star wars interworlds mod will even have a tram system for some stations, the millenium falcon and razorcrest have full interior, its incredible, but i don t know if it deletes vanilla saves
Good vid. I recently discovered the game and want to give it a try, but I am leery about paying full price. It's going to take me longer than Steam's 2 hour grace period to feel the game out I think.
I Might be Late to the Party but i want to give my 2 Cents to this. About the Question if X4 is a Tripple A Game i can tell you No. Egosoft is a small Indipendant German Studio with 20 to 30 Pepole. They do the X Series for ca 20 Years now and have no big Publisher or company behind them. So something like a X 4 is a Massive Project for them. And even when it is a Bit Rough around the Edges it is the most New Player Friendly Game in the Series. X 3 for example where much more Tricky to play. If you want my thoughts on this i can tell you that i love the Game and Play it since Launch and since then it have Masively Improved. Egosoft is a Company that Listens to the things the Fans Want and love and always try to improve the game for anyone even when you dont pay for the Great DLCs. and yes i know i sound like a Fanboy and that might be the case. But i have still tonns of fun with this game.
Its a throwback to the good ol times when any games that venture to "spacesim" genre is expected to be more complicated, Complete with joystick required and etc. (X3 is definitely more refined though)
i liked the game but sadly, this game cannot fullfill his promisses. explain: a lot of stuff is coded into this game, and yes, there are sooo many things to do. but, once you are the big imperial leaderguy who can decide about the future of an entire universe, especially once you are big enough to start terraforming. the game comes to a point where it shows you it's limits. it realy comes down, to how mutch of the content your pc can handle. i promise you, noone ever did EVERYTHING the game had to offer and thats simply cause of what happends to these safefiles. in my universe, i was pumping out Asgards in my own Fleet production segments as fast as an earlie pioneer builds starfighters and that is actually the kind of Eco you need to have in order to completely Terraform planets, so imagine like 24 spacestations in every major Race headquarters with fully automated Tradestations in order to bring energycells from the DLC sector over to the Split sector with hundreds or thousands of player programmed tradevessals, while simultaniously having Gate and Recycle fortresses at all Xenon Sector entrys and playing god in the Ballance of the universe in order to make the very most profits by trading with other races, actively controlling who dies and who lives like a god. i was so big, i manipulated other races in a way they would have war with each other, just to gain more profits by selling them ships at this point if i would want to start the game, my savefile takes like 24 minutes to load, the game has way more to offer but my system wich is actually not that bad in cooperation with my sparetime , is unable to get there. the imagination of throughing away 24 minutes of my sparetime in order to play a game alone freaks me out so bad that i start walking outside to see other people, can you imagine how frustrated a real gamer has to be in order to do that? this game is litterly miles ahead of the competition and of what is possible and now that their stepping forward to new technologies it gets left behind like myself as a kid in the supermarket. this Game is Too good in a bad way lol this game is so good, that nobody talks bad about it, cause nobody reached the fitting faction size in order to be competent enough to actually drop something bad onto it. i mean like, you gotta be a pro before shittalking something right? xD
As much as I wish Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen where at places where I could play them and enjoy it fully, I might have to give this a shot with the Cradle of Humanity DLC while it's on sale. Playing this and doing my occasional care bear activities in EVE might be my space-game fix for the meantime.
Thank you so much for this review of X4. Ive played all the X3 games and loved the complicated simplicity of those games. Like you, I’ve waited until now to even purchase the game due to the bugs......and an upgrade to a true gaming laptop. Because of the hype of the game not playing on the better than average computer; I was expecting a graphically intense experience that will cause smoke to billow from your heat vents. Not what I expected from all the hype at all. I’m very excited they went back to the X3 style game with all sorts of modern updates. I’m wondering why they haven’t combined this excellent format with a bit more style from X rebirth, which is an excellent game....but just add the ability to pilot other ships. I’m very excited to really jump into X with the help of videos like yours. Thank you so very much.
I am currently fighting with the controls. I loved Elite Dangerous back in the day and took to the controls right after a few hours. This game I just cannot seem to wrap my head around them.
Starbase from frozenbyte is the only space game where everyone plays together in the same Universe and you can shoot other people in the face. alongside x foundations, they re the most underrated space games there are
@@Doomblade3890 in terms of what? it has revolutionary features, uniquely capable and they re working from day one, the devs are a small team, they announced they ll still continue to do the style of games they used to do before, fantasy games with puzzles etc, so after working for a couple of years exclusively in Starbase they re now going to make a game alongside of the style they are used to, and everyone freaked out and started hyperventilating
@@jh5kl 53% positive rating for recent reviews on steam, only 65% positive overall, which is mixed on both fronts. A lot of the complaints I'm seeing revolve around the conduct of Frozenbyte developers, how the game lacks features or PVE content to make the space feel more alive (since there's a vast emptiness and long travel times between the stations and asteroid rings), no PVP anymore, ignored bugs, etc.
@@Doomblade3890 Starbase its revolutionary and factually working, opposite to some other very famous space games sold on lies, and others sold on future twisted promises (promises still offering less than Starbase has now), but btches like being sold sweet lies, and Starbase is definitely not crap arcade pew pew, so its not for everyone
Seems to me in order to play this game well you have to train your brain to 6 dimensional space it seems I just bought it with all the DLC’s can’t wait to play it 😅
The one thing I have issues with X4 is the eventuallity that one play style must change dramatically to that of management then an actual explorer, pirate, etc etc etc. IF and I assume it never will, become a cooperative to even a small degree, envoling at least two to four player's. At some point not likeing management games. I'll have to put it aside. I realized year's ago, that I'm extremely good at doing any job I'm asigned to do, aka: a GRUNT. I'm not to any degee a manager. IF X4 were to have a coop mode, I could and would find a manager somewhere, and thus continue to play. Manager's need Grunts and Grunts need manager's.
I hope it wont get an online mode. Not even a co-op one. Because it wont stop there. People would cry for a pure online mode and then we have the star citizen, the Elite or every other "MMO" title out there with all its flaws. I enjoy my singleplayer games. But I also understand if people want to play with their friends, especially if its a complicated game. Im not that far into X by now, so I dont know what it feels to have hundreds of ships or space stations (I only have two mining ships and nothing more). ^^
I started my first game and found I was soon managing dozens and hundreds of ships and doing nothing but managing an empire. Boring and frustrating. I started over with the Avarice so I could be a loner pirate and not a corporate CEO. Doesn't matter, the game pushes you into massive fleet ownership/management. So frustrating. To make it worse, 4 FPS is unplayable (and yes I have a great system and amazing video card etc).
X4's interface makes the vanilla TES V:Skyrim's UI look like a professional, well-made user-friendly experience. Aside from that, bugs bugs bugs, Xenon are ridiculous and just wipe you without breaking a sweat, turrets never hit anything and big ships are practically rocks in space that barely move and look like shit. Overall 3/10 , it is fun until it's not and that switch happens pretty quickly.
I think Sins probably isn't the best comparison, as that's just a fairly standard space RTS. What you should compare this to, if you're talking about space empire building, is Solaris and all its expansions.
Complaining that it is too hard to learn and you want to be spoon fed, is I guess a whiny valid reaction. It's just not because the game was designed in a way that you can't figure it out, it is that some people just don't have the education and motivation to learn. There is nothing in the games design that "hide" how something works behind some magic black box, you can figure everything out by observing and doing trial and error. Some of it also seems to be him being so confused that he doesn't know the default settings, from him having changed things, I'm not sure it would be valid for me to say we should stop having chess grand masters, because I couldn't compete with one if I tried? Or that we should never have climbed down from the trees (Not that we wherever living in trees), because this guy find it too hard to walk on two legs.
Lol based on his comments and the fact that none of his gameplay suggests he played more than 30 min, I'd say the dude read some forums and wanted to review without playing.
I've been desperately trying to find a game that lets me get into the industry side of things like EO does without the constant nagging of tryhards who can play 16 hours a day. Literally if I could just have EVE Offline, I'd be happy haha.
Name me one other game where you can command an "M" sized ship to take off from a station and land on your "XL" sized destroyer. And in the meantime and on the same space station as the "M" sized ship, you're in an "S" sized ship that's docked. But you're not the pilot. So you command the pilot of that "S" sized ship to land on the "M" sided ship that you've already told to land on the "XL" battleship. _I hope you're still with me?_ Then you go into third person mode, sit back and watch it all gracefully unfold as your "S" sized ship catches up with the "M" sized ship and lands. And then a minute later, that "M" sized ship, on which you've landed on your "S" sized ship, closes in and lands on that "XL" battleship. Now you can see them all when you zoom your camera in and out. Your "S" sized ship landed on the "M" sized ship that has landed on the "XL" sized ship. However... 10 minutes later, you've told the pilot of your "S" sized ship, of which you're still on board, to fly somewhere. And while it's going through an asteroid field, it stuffs your "S" sized ship right into a large asteroid and now you can't get out of the damn thing. Or... You've landed on a shipyard and you've ordered, for instance, an "S" or "M" sized ship and now you're stood right next to that ship and you're watching it being built, almost pixel by pixel. That's quite delightful and calming to watch. But then you've commanded a ship to _"do something"._ When you check back, sometime later, that they're carrying out your order, you realise that, that ship has decided that it wanted to do something totally different. It's now half a dozen or more systems away from where it's supposed to be and is now charging through Xenon space with a dozen Xenon breathing down it's neck. *The joys and pitfalls of X4.* _But I wouldn't be without any of it._
I played every X game from Beyond the Frontier to X3TC and I love the series. I avoided X4 for the same reason, heard about so many issues. And still to this day X BtF and Tension haven't been beaten atmosphere wise compared to the others in the series.
Back in the day I also played xbtf and xtension alot and I know what you mean with the atmosphere. However I suggest to give x4 a try! To me x4 feels a little bit like a modern version of xtension. A very enjoyable experience so far
It’s on the steam sale, my question is for a first timer do I buy the base game or the dlc bundle for a little bit more? Basically is the game and all dlc worth 50 bucks?
Can't answer that, but I can tell you I went with the bundle. Past experience has kind of convinced me it's better to start with as much as you can get rather than getting comfortable with one set of rules and toys then having to relearn things when you buy the next set.
on paper this is the best game ever made. In practice 40 hours in my economy completely stopped. my 20 miners completely full with no one to sell to. my 4 traders can't find any trades. No one is at war. I spend my last 10 mil to build a station and 9 hours real time in its only 1/4 of the way done. No one is at war. no materials are being moved around. Its just completely stopped. I just wanted to build a huge fleet and destroy my enemies but I can't even build a single fighter because my empire is at a complete stand still. I wanted to love this and play it forever, instead I want to throw my pc out of the window and pour gasoline on it. The most basic thing like building a factory needs a 1 hour you tube tutorial. I tried to do the games tutorial and it didn't even expliain how to do what it told you to do. Accept mission for example, it doesn't tell you how to accept the mission it just says accept it. when You do the build tutortial it says do build. What the F does that mean????? I can't even tab out to let the station build while I watch house MD Because it pauses the F'ning game when I Alt tab. I've probably watched 15 hours of you tube tutorials and I still don't know whats happening or how to do anything.
If you like elite dangerous and any type of economy based games like civ or Stellaris- yes! Buy it. It's a lot to wrap your head around, but it's a great game!
Also, if you don't like the main game ships and stories, grab the Star wars overhaul and enjoy taking over the star wars galaxy with hundreds of well crafted starwars ships
i played alot of elite and i have yet to find other players :D my point is even those multiplayer games feel like singe player games most of the time :D
I get a chuckle every time people try to compare X4:Foundations to almost any other game or series. Especially when it comes to how this game doesn't hold your hands or is not intuitive (have you started any game play? Every one has tutorials that can help you do anything you need to in this game) and how it's not as "immersive" as some other space games. If this game really was as "janky as hell" I'm sure it wouldn't have such a robust following and modding community. Think of X4 as the Skyrim of space games, so much to do, mods everywhere, and more tutorials and community videos than you could shake a stick at. Happy hunting!!
Save yourself some money, it looks cool but the controls are absolutely a** Before you rage I could dog fight just fine. My complaint has to do with having to go through multiple sub windows or press multiple commands just to execute an order. That isn't fun, that's just exhausting and what you do at work.
I'm probably going to give this title a try, but I'm here on a hunt for a game my bro might be into. He wants flight or space combat, a conquering aspect, and this title tackles those, but I'mma need it to feature online PvP. Anybody out here have suggestions?
the gamestarts of the most recent dlc are incredibly easy to get into, they re very much what generally people would expect of a space game, a very entertaining story driven campaign, that smoothly presents you the universe, specially the gamestart named stranded, but the uber mega dynamic universe and all its complexities are still there, for when and if you want to explore that
but if you re into mmo s then there s nothing like Starbase from frozenbyte, every player in the World plays in the same universe, physics based, first person shooting and melee combat for characters and ships, the skyscrappers in the city in the moon have actual proper interiors, trade, build spaceships, spacestations, ground bases, sell ores, ships, etc, siege gameplay mechanics, mine, combat, salvage, etc
I can't even get SC to open anymore so I can look at my ships. Haven't played E:D since they turned it into PUBG-in-space. It may not be a direct answer to your question since I just bought X4 and haven't had a chance to play yet, but I can tell you I've abandoned those other games.
I find X4 Foundations to be one of the most frustrating games I've ever played and yet the payoff has amounted to this possibly being one of my top 2 or 3 games of all time. It's difficult to get started, it doesn't hold your hand (putting it mildly), you have to take night community classes to learn this beast, but the reward is so worth it. I have put Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky, Empyrion, and Star Citizen on the back-burner for this game.
That is a good choice young padowan
Damn all those other games less than this. THANK YOU!!!
Eve online too for the market no?
Just not player driven but AI driven which is fine too
Have you played X Rebirth before? Let me tell you, as someone who just bought it recently, some of the basic mechanics in X4 are like the final exam of the top university in X Rebirth. Everything you think is hard in X4 is downright impossible in X Rebirth. I'm absolutely honest here, once you play and understand the basics of XR you realize just how easy and user firendly X4 really is. I just can't stress it enough.
If X4 also had the ship ambiance, flight model and ship complexity and tactics of Elite Dangerous, I wouldn't even look at any other game.
@@TESI303 tactics x4 you have a lot more tactics than that trash multi-player game
*I stop playing all other space games for X4* X4 is the very best. The big advantage of X4 is that you can play the part you want without worrying about how the universe will change when you are not there. I LOVE IT. Sin of a Solar is very good; however, you can not visit any of the stations or fly a ship.
The Learning Curve is WORTH IT. This is the best space game I have ever played in my life.
Played all X series and X4 is so much fun and beautiful. You can literally watch the hymes of millions of laser melting away ships from the open deck of your fleet carrier.
To be fair. They are like 20 people in the studio and they make the x games and nothing else. All their budget come from the previous games... for over two decades now... Just imagine what they could do if they had star citizens budget.
You could end world hunger with SC's budget.
You could discover/implement Fusion Nuclear energy in a mass scale with SC's budget.
You could build 12 Juliter Class Battlestars with SC's Budget.
@@Marcus_WulfhartThorium batteries, use Low Energy Nuclear Reaction generators, implement Thermo Photo Voltaics
Never played the X series until X4 but it is my top game of all time now, I really hope they keep adding to it because people are starting to realize how amazing this game is
I own it but am a little overwhelmed by all the features...have played maybe 20 minutes.
@@paulmcdonald4608 Yeah, X series takes a while: it's not really beginner friendly (you need terran conflict for an easier start), and most important: do not feel pressured to do the main quest: most important things at the beginning are credits, not doing the main quest: you need tons of money.
picked up reunion in a bargain bin a long time ago and it took me a while to get started with it, but yes it is like taking a night course at community college, but the resources are out there and yes it is worth every second because once you get the hang of it…well i would love sitting at my screen having my morning cup of coffee and feeling like i was sitting on the bridge of my starship…i still have it loaded up on my computer and will definitely be heading out to space again soon😊😊😊
As someone who was also really overwhelmed by the UI, I implore you to stick with it and learn. Once you get used to it, it's more clunky than overwhelming. And it's so rewarding to watch your fleets grow, along with your bank account. This went from being an obscure game in my steam library, to one of, if not my favorite game OF ALL TIME. It's THAT good!
I need the scope of X4 and the Scale of ED and No Mans Sky to combine with the depth and detail of Star Citizen. Also with the empire building I need to be able to build out and manage an entire planet. Research technology trees for planetary defense. Build orbital defense platforms. Grow and manage planetary npcs that fill the roles on the planet. Bam!!
Bad bug Ive got yesterday (in july 2022):
I bought a big mining ship and was onboard on foot. When I wanted to get out in space with my suit, the exterial door didnt open and I was stuck in the little space suit airlock, clipping inside the ship geometry. I couldnt get out at all and had to reload.
Very frustrating.
But the game is still mega fun, which I did not expected.
And I really like the singleplayer aspect.
That is something you hardly get nowdays with such a title. As you mentioned, Elite is online, Star Citizen is online, Eve is, well, its name is Eve online ^^
But X?
That is something for the hearts of the real singleplayer fans who dont want to get ganked by frikkin overpowered and bored players all the time.
Which call themselves "pirates" and propagate their right to kill every small player from the get go in the forums (Yes, this happened)
I played a lot of X3TC many years ago and bought X4 but hardly played it.
Got back into it recently and have become addicted. I'm at a point now where I spend most of my game time being flown around on one of my capital ships looking at a map or sitting in my personal office 😅
Was planning on getting a hotas set-up for this and msfs2020 but because I hardly pilot my own ships any more I don't know if its worth it
Great video, I personally love X4 but this has definitely given me a new perspective !
Great to hear!
I'm new to X series, but this game got me addicted, and i still not figured out everything yet.
Lasta night i was playing and i was helping the PAR faction to conquer HOP territory, and i was piloting only a Syn destroyer, at first you think you can use the same strategy as you do for a fighter, but nope, you need to adjust your tactics to the hulking beast that the syn is, even though, once you tame the beast, it becomes unstoppable.
The turrets would do the job to deal with small ships, while the main guns are to be used in stations and larger ships, but combat still can be very engaging and strategic.
For example, in one fight last night i was battling a odysseus destroyer, when i notice that some 20 km away another one was heading to my way.
My shields where down when i finished the first Odysseus, i could try to evade the odysseus shots at long distance but this would only delay the inevitable...
So, what i did?
I hit travel mode and run pass the odysseus, w.hen i pas by it, I disable the flight assistant, and turn shooting the Odysseus, ended up right behind him, and i made short work of their engines, and soon after the Odysseus was no more.
See? Theres a lot of things going on in X4, and sometimes you need to be clever and use you knowledge of the game mechanics to do some amazing stuff.
Also, after finishing the battle i hade to lick my syn wounds, it took a lot of damage, so i put my space wheelchair and went to fix turrets, the engine.
Also i think egosoft guys should add a command to hold the repair drones, because the spawn automatically when your ship start to take damage and they get destroyed very easily, especially when large things go boom in close proximity of your ship, the shield ships can take the damage, but the drones don't.
One mode that i added to the game is the escape pod mod, with this one you are automatically and can escape the battle with your crew, wich is way more grounded than be teleported outside the ship, while your crew burns.
Im quite sure you can tell your drones how to behave … so I presume you can do the same for the repair drones
Mount and blade "Space Lord"
I love this game!
So much choice in what to do and how to play!
Bruh..... I'm trying to wrap my brain around this after the tutorial 😫🤦🏾🤦🏾
Once you have unlocked Teleportation you can simply teleport out of sector and back (provided you have something to teleport close enough by, that problem is gone at the third stage of the research though), on re-entering the sector your vessel will be placed outside the station.
For that, you have to play the HQ plot of course, but you need the HQ for so many things, better start early. After the first million or so...
Yes, those weird necks are bad, especially when they lean forward like in the Bars XD
you can do a custom start and just skip the PHQ part if you've already done it in previous playthroughs. it doesn't affect the storylines from the expansions. but the expansion starts are 100% unique and I love that... The stranded start immediately acclimates you to using a spacesuit and pirating and stealing new vessels.
I'm sick of all the competition. The PERFECT space game is virtually objective.
Huge, preferably endless systems so numerous a whole population could never discover everything in one lifetime not even nearly.
High fidelity and large scale planetary landings. No faking the horizon because that IS the horizon, no loading screens. What you see in orbit represents what you get on the ground.
Comprehensive ship interiors and survival mechanics. Food, drink and rest as well as ships being real ships with reql functions, akin to Starship Simulator or Stat Citizen.
Realistic economy and world, such as Elite Dangerous. With large scale powerplay always being run. A lot of issues but the way that game employs space politics as well as the scale is absolutely unrivalled and should not be ignored.
Construction, like Space Engineers but more. Stations, bases, fighters, capital ships all being built and sold and published from player creations, like Dual Universe.
And too many more to mention. But any space game fan would find no issue in these features and with octo core CPUs, 32gb of Ram and 8-12gb of VRAM being recommended specs in the next few years, I'd argue such a game will be possible if all the people that made all these come together.
Don't compete, collaborate.
The game checks all of the boxes for me. I love simulation and sandbox rpgs with empire building mechanics. Word of warning however; X4 is not optimized and slows down during the late game and large battles and lowering graphical settings does little to help. The devs have not given us much reason for optimism regarding increased performance as the problems seem to be hard coded in the engine. I am going to hold off playing until I upgrade my PC later this year with the release of the next generation of CPU's and GPU's. There is also a Star Wars overhaul mod called Interworlds, that is worth checking out since I know this channel posts SWG videos. Interworlds is close to releasing the next update which promises new races and ships. If you have always wanted to command a star destroyer or mon calamari cruiser, this is your game.
The Star Wars overhaul sounds intriguing - thanks for the info
@@napyet the next update for the star wars interworlds mod will even have a tram system for some stations, the millenium falcon and razorcrest have full interior, its incredible, but i don t know if it deletes vanilla saves
X4 Foundation definitely has come loong way from X4 Rebirth
it's worthy now
Good vid. I recently discovered the game and want to give it a try, but I am leery about paying full price. It's going to take me longer than Steam's 2 hour grace period to feel the game out I think.
GOG has like a month or so of play you can do and then return it
When stuck in the geometry of something while in a ship, just order the ship to go somewhere and let the ship's captain sort this out.
I Might be Late to the Party but i want to give my 2 Cents to this.
About the Question if X4 is a Tripple A Game i can tell you No. Egosoft is a small Indipendant German Studio with 20 to 30 Pepole. They do the X Series for ca 20 Years now and have no big Publisher or company behind them.
So something like a X 4 is a Massive Project for them. And even when it is a Bit Rough around the Edges it is the most New Player Friendly Game in the Series. X 3 for example where much more Tricky to play.
If you want my thoughts on this i can tell you that i love the Game and Play it since Launch and since then it have Masively Improved. Egosoft is a Company that Listens to the things the Fans Want and love and always try to improve the game for anyone even when you dont pay for the Great DLCs.
and yes i know i sound like a Fanboy and that might be the case. But i have still tonns of fun with this game.
You can get unstuck from a station by giving control of the ship to the assigned pilot for a moment
Its a throwback to the good ol times when any games that venture to "spacesim" genre is expected to be more complicated, Complete with joystick required and etc.
(X3 is definitely more refined though)
great to see the X community alive and well out there! love these games! thanks for the excellent review!
i liked the game but sadly, this game cannot fullfill his promisses.
explain: a lot of stuff is coded into this game, and yes, there are sooo many things to do.
but, once you are the big imperial leaderguy who can decide about the future of an entire universe,
especially once you are big enough to start terraforming.
the game comes to a point where it shows you it's limits.
it realy comes down, to how mutch of the content your pc can handle. i promise you, noone ever did EVERYTHING the game had to offer and thats simply cause of what happends to these safefiles. in my universe, i was pumping out Asgards in my own Fleet production segments as fast as an earlie pioneer builds starfighters and that is actually the kind of Eco you need to have in order to completely Terraform planets, so imagine like 24 spacestations in every major Race headquarters with fully automated Tradestations in order to bring energycells from the DLC sector over to the Split sector with hundreds or thousands of player programmed tradevessals, while simultaniously having Gate and Recycle fortresses at all Xenon Sector entrys and playing god in the Ballance of the universe in order to make the very most profits by trading with other races, actively controlling who dies and who lives like a god. i was so big, i manipulated other races in a way they would have war with each other, just to gain more profits by selling them ships
at this point if i would want to start the game, my savefile takes like 24 minutes to load,
the game has way more to offer but my system wich is actually not that bad in cooperation with my sparetime , is unable to get there. the imagination of throughing away 24 minutes of my sparetime in order to play a game alone freaks me out so bad that i start walking outside to see other people, can you imagine how frustrated a real gamer has to be in order to do that?
this game is litterly miles ahead of the competition and of what is possible and now that their stepping forward to new technologies it gets left behind like myself as a kid in the supermarket.
this Game is Too good in a bad way lol
this game is so good, that nobody talks bad about it, cause nobody reached the fitting faction size in order to be competent enough to actually drop something bad onto it. i mean like, you gotta be a pro before shittalking something right? xD
As much as I wish Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen where at places where I could play them and enjoy it fully, I might have to give this a shot with the Cradle of Humanity DLC while it's on sale. Playing this and doing my occasional care bear activities in EVE might be my space-game fix for the meantime.
Did you end up playing this?
get all the DLC.. Avarice is my favorite DLC but so is Vendetta.
@@lordblazer game and all DLC on Steam sale ATM until 5jan. Pushed the button and hope I won’t regret it
Star citizen is never leaving alpha, lol
Enjoyed hearing your take.
Might have to give it a go. Cheers Mate.
Thank you so much for this review of X4. Ive played all the X3 games and loved the complicated simplicity of those games. Like you, I’ve waited until now to even purchase the game due to the bugs......and an upgrade to a true gaming laptop. Because of the hype of the game not playing on the better than average computer; I was expecting a graphically intense experience that will cause smoke to billow from your heat vents. Not what I expected from all the hype at all. I’m very excited they went back to the X3 style game with all sorts of modern updates. I’m wondering why they haven’t combined this excellent format with a bit more style from X rebirth, which is an excellent game....but just add the ability to pilot other ships. I’m very excited to really jump into X with the help of videos like yours. Thank you so very much.
Yes...beyond yes
"This game is janky"
Sims4 players- "that's adorable"
"This looks well polished to me!" -Star citizen player, probably
This game is kinda similar to Eve online but single player and I love it
Thanks for the video!
You bet!
I am currently fighting with the controls. I loved Elite Dangerous back in the day and took to the controls right after a few hours. This game I just cannot seem to wrap my head around them.
Try setting up your flight stick. Once you set them up, the controls are almost the same as elite.
Is it possible (and fun) to simply play the game as a single space pilot?
Starbase from frozenbyte is the only space game where everyone plays together in the same Universe and you can shoot other people in the face. alongside x foundations, they re the most underrated space games there are
I heard Starbase wasn't doing too well nowadays.
@@Doomblade3890 in terms of what? it has revolutionary features, uniquely capable and they re working from day one, the devs are a small team, they announced they ll still continue to do the style of games they used to do before, fantasy games with puzzles etc, so after working for a couple of years exclusively in Starbase they re now going to make a game alongside of the style they are used to, and everyone freaked out and started hyperventilating
@@jh5kl 53% positive rating for recent reviews on steam, only 65% positive overall, which is mixed on both fronts. A lot of the complaints I'm seeing revolve around the conduct of Frozenbyte developers, how the game lacks features or PVE content to make the space feel more alive (since there's a vast emptiness and long travel times between the stations and asteroid rings), no PVP anymore, ignored bugs, etc.
I haven't heard of Starbase - I will have to check it out thanks
@@Doomblade3890 Starbase its revolutionary and factually working, opposite to some other very famous space games sold on lies, and others sold on future twisted promises (promises still offering less than Starbase has now), but btches like being sold sweet lies, and Starbase is definitely not crap arcade pew pew, so its not for everyone
Seems to me in order to play this game well you have to train your brain to 6 dimensional space it seems I just bought it with all the DLC’s can’t wait to play it 😅
The one thing I have issues with X4 is the eventuallity that one play style must change dramatically to that of management then an actual explorer, pirate, etc etc etc.
IF and I assume it never will, become a cooperative to even a small degree, envoling at least two to four player's. At some point not likeing management games. I'll have to put it aside. I realized year's ago, that I'm extremely good at doing any job I'm asigned to do, aka: a GRUNT. I'm not to any degee a manager. IF X4 were to have a coop mode, I could and would find a manager somewhere, and thus continue to play. Manager's need Grunts and Grunts need manager's.
I hope it wont get an online mode.
Not even a co-op one. Because it wont stop there. People would cry for a pure online mode and then we have the star citizen, the Elite or every other "MMO" title out there with all its flaws.
I enjoy my singleplayer games.
But I also understand if people want to play with their friends, especially if its a complicated game.
Im not that far into X by now, so I dont know what it feels to have hundreds of ships or space stations (I only have two mining ships and nothing more). ^^
I started my first game and found I was soon managing dozens and hundreds of ships and doing nothing but managing an empire. Boring and frustrating. I started over with the Avarice so I could be a loner pirate and not a corporate CEO. Doesn't matter, the game pushes you into massive fleet ownership/management. So frustrating. To make it worse, 4 FPS is unplayable (and yes I have a great system and amazing video card etc).
@@delnorinthemaster3557 what’s your specs
@@momentofsilence7520 Windows 10, 32 GB Ram, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB.
For the scope of what you can do in the game and what the game does, it’s remarkably bug free.
X4's interface makes the vanilla TES V:Skyrim's UI look like a professional, well-made user-friendly experience. Aside from that, bugs bugs bugs, Xenon are ridiculous and just wipe you without breaking a sweat, turrets never hit anything and big ships are practically rocks in space that barely move and look like shit. Overall 3/10 , it is fun until it's not and that switch happens pretty quickly.
Great video thanks!
I think Sins probably isn't the best comparison, as that's just a fairly standard space RTS.
What you should compare this to, if you're talking about space empire building, is Solaris and all its expansions.
Complaining that it is too hard to learn and you want to be spoon fed, is I guess a whiny valid reaction. It's just not because the game was designed in a way that you can't figure it out, it is that some people just don't have the education and motivation to learn. There is nothing in the games design that "hide" how something works behind some magic black box, you can figure everything out by observing and doing trial and error.
Some of it also seems to be him being so confused that he doesn't know the default settings, from him having changed things, I'm not sure it would be valid for me to say we should stop having chess grand masters, because I couldn't compete with one if I tried? Or that we should never have climbed down from the trees (Not that we wherever living in trees), because this guy find it too hard to walk on two legs.
Lol based on his comments and the fact that none of his gameplay suggests he played more than 30 min, I'd say the dude read some forums and wanted to review without playing.
to learn this read documentation . its like learning to code . to learn how to play this create stackoverflow question :D
since its a singleplayer game, what can i do after the main mission ends ?
A year late but, there is a shortcut for personal inventory: shift i.
Definitely going to start playing this instead of eve online
$20 sub to eve online is not worth it. Are they attempting to destroy that game? Late-stage nonsense.
Eve Online is social cancer.
I've been desperately trying to find a game that lets me get into the industry side of things like EO does without the constant nagging of tryhards who can play 16 hours a day. Literally if I could just have EVE Offline, I'd be happy haha.
Name me one other game where you can command an "M" sized ship to take off from a station and land on your "XL" sized destroyer.
And in the meantime and on the same space station as the "M" sized ship, you're in an "S" sized ship that's docked. But you're not the pilot.
So you command the pilot of that "S" sized ship to land on the "M" sided ship that you've already told to land on the "XL" battleship. _I hope you're still with me?_
Then you go into third person mode, sit back and watch it all gracefully unfold as your "S" sized ship catches up with the "M" sized ship and lands. And then a minute later, that "M" sized ship, on which you've landed on your "S" sized ship, closes in and lands on that "XL" battleship.
Now you can see them all when you zoom your camera in and out. Your "S" sized ship landed on the "M" sized ship that has landed on the "XL" sized ship.
However... 10 minutes later, you've told the pilot of your "S" sized ship, of which you're still on board, to fly somewhere. And while it's going through an asteroid field, it stuffs your "S" sized ship right into a large asteroid and now you can't get out of the damn thing.
Or... You've landed on a shipyard and you've ordered, for instance, an "S" or "M" sized ship and now you're stood right next to that ship and you're watching it being built, almost pixel by pixel. That's quite delightful and calming to watch.
But then you've commanded a ship to _"do something"._ When you check back, sometime later, that they're carrying out your order, you realise that, that ship has decided that it wanted to do something totally different. It's now half a dozen or more systems away from where it's supposed to be and is now charging through Xenon space with a dozen Xenon breathing down it's neck.
*The joys and pitfalls of X4.* _But I wouldn't be without any of it._
5:38 I always plan around what route causes the least conflict between faction exept xenon my end game is to eliminate xenon once and for all.
is star citizen more immersive? the graphics look more cool at least
Im a huge fan of elite dangerous would i enjoy this game?
Does it support HOTAS?
Yes
Clearly one of my top space games of all time for numerous reasons.
It's for sure worth the investment in time.
I usually stay off X game when it releases a new DLC or a new game for at least 6 months.
started with x2 :) my first successful trade was so satisfying
Good review thx. Btw, never heard of 'janky' before :)
At this point in life I prefer a bit of jank, if it comes with a new kind of experience, to the safe, self-inspired AAA space.
Is there a sense of progression in this game? Or is it another one of those spreadsheets where you start seeing actual content after 300 hours?
Depends on your definition of "progression". There are 1000+ ways of approaching this game.
I played every X game from Beyond the Frontier to X3TC and I love the series. I avoided X4 for the same reason, heard about so many issues. And still to this day X BtF and Tension haven't been beaten atmosphere wise compared to the others in the series.
Back in the day I also played xbtf and xtension alot and I know what you mean with the atmosphere. However I suggest to give x4 a try! To me x4 feels a little bit like a modern version of xtension. A very enjoyable experience so far
It’s on the steam sale, my question is for a first timer do I buy the base game or the dlc bundle for a little bit more?
Basically is the game and all dlc worth 50 bucks?
Can't answer that, but I can tell you I went with the bundle. Past experience has kind of convinced me it's better to start with as much as you can get rather than getting comfortable with one set of rules and toys then having to relearn things when you buy the next set.
I played most x series games - haven't tried X4 yet but I'm gonna miss the squids.
on paper this is the best game ever made. In practice 40 hours in my economy completely stopped. my 20 miners completely full with no one to sell to. my 4 traders can't find any trades. No one is at war. I spend my last 10 mil to build a station and 9 hours real time in its only 1/4 of the way done. No one is at war. no materials are being moved around. Its just completely stopped. I just wanted to build a huge fleet and destroy my enemies but I can't even build a single fighter because my empire is at a complete stand still. I wanted to love this and play it forever, instead I want to throw my pc out of the window and pour gasoline on it. The most basic thing like building a factory needs a 1 hour you tube tutorial. I tried to do the games tutorial and it didn't even expliain how to do what it told you to do. Accept mission for example, it doesn't tell you how to accept the mission it just says accept it. when You do the build tutortial it says do build. What the F does that mean????? I can't even tab out to let the station build while I watch house MD Because it pauses the F'ning game when I Alt tab. I've probably watched 15 hours of you tube tutorials and I still don't know whats happening or how to do anything.
Can you land on planets in this game?
ok, i want a simple yes or no with a very short reason: should i get x4? is it worth it?
If you like elite dangerous and any type of economy based games like civ or Stellaris- yes! Buy it. It's a lot to wrap your head around, but it's a great game!
Also, if you don't like the main game ships and stories, grab the Star wars overhaul and enjoy taking over the star wars galaxy with hundreds of well crafted starwars ships
i played alot of elite and i have yet to find other players :D my point is even those multiplayer games feel like singe player games most of the time :D
Anything like this better than X4 right now?
I get a chuckle every time people try to compare X4:Foundations to almost any other game or series. Especially when it comes to how this game doesn't hold your hands or is not intuitive (have you started any game play? Every one has tutorials that can help you do anything you need to in this game) and how it's not as "immersive" as some other space games. If this game really was as "janky as hell" I'm sure it wouldn't have such a robust following and modding community. Think of X4 as the Skyrim of space games, so much to do, mods everywhere, and more tutorials and community videos than you could shake a stick at. Happy hunting!!
Good overview/review
You didn't mention the dogshit FPS when you get 10 things on your screen.
Is this the best game in the series?
Save yourself some money, it looks cool but the controls are absolutely a** Before you rage I could dog fight just fine. My complaint has to do with having to go through multiple sub windows or press multiple commands just to execute an order. That isn't fun, that's just exhausting and what you do at work.
is x3 still better?
got a kenshin vibe for sure
I'm probably going to give this title a try, but I'm here on a hunt for a game my bro might be into. He wants flight or space combat, a conquering aspect, and this title tackles those, but I'mma need it to feature online PvP. Anybody out here have suggestions?
This game is pve and its not for every one it's hard and you need to learn loots of stuff, not for casual I hope you enjoy it
the gamestarts of the most recent dlc are incredibly easy to get into, they re very much what generally people would expect of a space game, a very entertaining story driven campaign, that smoothly presents you the universe, specially the gamestart named stranded, but the uber mega dynamic universe and all its complexities are still there, for when and if you want to explore that
but if you re into mmo s then there s nothing like Starbase from frozenbyte, every player in the World plays in the same universe, physics based, first person shooting and melee combat for characters and ships, the skyscrappers in the city in the moon have actual proper interiors, trade, build spaceships, spacestations, ground bases, sell ores, ships, etc, siege gameplay mechanics, mine, combat, salvage, etc
sooo better than star citizen and elite dangerous and eve online?
I dont care about graphics soooo mechanics worth?
I can't even get SC to open anymore so I can look at my ships. Haven't played E:D since they turned it into PUBG-in-space. It may not be a direct answer to your question since I just bought X4 and haven't had a chance to play yet, but I can tell you I've abandoned those other games.
just wish it didn't look like it was released in 2010, any mods to make it less ugly?
For me, the main problem with this game is the NPC's stupidity at all levels )
It's still very buggy. Egoshit games will never not be very buggy.
This game is complicated as fuck and not fun to play
The thing that prevents me from playing this is the lack of VR support .
too bad this isnt MP thats the one thing that keeps me from buying it
Worst games I have played,so confusing.
A game being complex doesn't make it bad. Just makes it not your cup of tea.
its dead and sterile. how could you ever feel immersed into this games world?