*"I shall return eternally to this identical and self-same life in the greatest things and in the smallest, to teach once more the eternal recurrence of all things. To speak once more the teaching of the great noontide of earth and man, to tell man of the Overman once more.”* - Nietzsche Check out Part 2/2 on Weltgeist's Channel th-cam.com/video/WpzAreSrl0A/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Weltgeist Become a Patron (exclusive content): www.patreon.com/eternalised TH-cam Member (exclusive content): th-cam.com/channels/qos1tl0RntucGGtPXNxkkA.htmljoin Official Merch: eternalised.creator-spring.com Donate a Coffee: ko-fi.com/eternalised
Hello. I'm from Spain and I am in love with the ideas of Nietzsche and I just wanted to comment that thanks for this compilation, I'm very happy that I'll be living discovering this video eternally :)
Right now, your past is set in stone. Just like in the future, this moment right now will be part of your past and it too will have been set in stone. And every other moment that lead to that future self will have been set in stone. You can't change the past because that would mean being able to change the future. It's just a show, like a movie streaming forever and ever. Nothing ever changes. It's your movie so relax and enjoy it! It's the only one that has been ever playing.
The Eternal Recurrence is a concept hinted at in Zelda and finally instantiated explicitly in Breath of The Wild. Whether or not it truly reflects the nature of the universe, it does reflect the nature of the human mind; that it can only go in any given direction so far before snapping back into the center. Thus the mandala, conceived of as an ontological compass has a hidden identity with the uroboros. The Eternal Recurrence orients us towards life, whereas the idea of progression, though necessary, leads to separation and denial of life. The latter can only ever be an illusion, but without it there is no consciousness.
Eternal Recurrence might be true, but I would imagine it being on a much larger scale than one life, more fitting to the concept of infinity. Therefore it would rather be countless and countless lives as reincarnations to every possible form imaginable, with spiritual worlds between the reincarnations, and after eons and eons, when all else has been experienced, one would return to the same life he's living now. Actually, even if that were the case, I don't see why life should be exactly the same as before. First, you would have to experience all other possible variations to your current life. In this way it would certainly take so long to get back into the exact same life, it could as well be said never since it would take exactly the amount of time eternity takes.
@ontyam But my question is this: what is truly possible? If all possible worlds can occur, is it possible for worlds to exist that contain superheroes and magic (i.e. worlds that would be considered impossible or fictional)?
@ontyam Good point, though I ask mainly because physicalists and certain scientists believe they know much of what is possible to know about the Universe and of existence. I just fine this laughably absurd; there’s no way we know as much as we think we do.
Is the eternal recurrence really just knowing that this life is finite? It will be stored in the Akashic like a book to be picked up every once in a while, unchangeable, but able to be experienced again. However, our consciousness continues to expand to be & become other things. Those who are very attached to THIS experience of life (the ego) despair over the idea of having to transform into something else. They want THIS form to be final &...well, God. But...you can't be God without BECOMING GOD. (transforming)
I don't think it is right to characterize Darwin as advocating "the survival of the fittest", but rather, that he advocated the idea of natural selection. Fitness being less of a competitive notion than an adaptive one
"Life is play." This is the statement that makes Peterson balk and turn from a philologist into a theologian. If he cannot impose responsibility on himself and others, he fears he has no power. His imprecations to gratitude spring from resentment.
If it's eternal then we are already reoccurring and can't detect it or remember. If we can remember then it's the essence of boredom. The natural feeling of discomfort when repeating tasks. So um... no thanks.
I thought a lot about Nietzsche’s assertion how he would have chosen to live his life again the same way as he has, or will have lived from his perspective at the time of writing. I think by writing it he suggests the readers should feel the same way. I think EVEN IF it were an option to any of us, it would be a hell and torture to live the same life again. Especially if you consider all the suffering and tragedies we see in lives of others as well as in our own. The Buddhist view that it is best to never be alive again to suffer is a better choice.
I think that the concept of eternal reccurance might be misunderstood. I don't really believe that Nietzsche meant that he would born again and come through the exact same path. It is his eternal will that would rather reoccur again. According to Alan Watts every human being carries nature in itself, thus there are no individuals but only dufferent types of will that those individuals carry. For me Jesus, Buddha, Nietzsche and me are all the same. Our lifes go on differently, but we all have something in common, we carry some sort of an eternal will(basically spirit) that makes us suffer and research the truth. Thus, I am Nietzsche. This is how Nietzsche infinitely reborns.
ive believed this for a while didn't know neitzsche did as well, very cool to hear what comes after that realization because i've had quite the hard time grappling with it
Very excellent video! Just one thing though, and sorry if I'm splitting hairs here, but @ 5:33 Darwin himself never said "Survival of the fittest." That's a phrase which Herbert Spencer coined. I believe it's through his writings that Nietzsche learned about evolution, and not through Darwin directly. Apologies for being a stickler for the details though! Great video nonetheless!
Great stuff! I've been wanting to do a bit of a Nietzsche pilgrimage for years to the Engadine and to the rock there where he first came up with the eternal recurrence (or rather where it came to him) I had never thought of Nietzsche as a metaphysician because of all the noise he makes about Plato and Christianity but of course it makes perfect sense with the eternal recurrence and will to power. They have always struck me as odd as to what exactly his belief was with them and what his attitude was-thought experiment or deep belief
Thanks! That place is beautiful. Really good point - thought experiment or deep belief. Nietzsche was one of those thinkers who lived what he thought. In some of his posthumous notes he says: "One must want to experience the great problems with one's body and one's soul" In other words, the dichotomy between thinking and feeling, intellect and passion, has disappeared. He feels his thoughts. He can fall in love with an idea. An idea can make him ill.
@@Eternalised I'd never heard that line before that's great stuff. I've always felt with him that it was precisely his ideas that made him ill or that there's some deep connection there obviously he had that sense as well. If nothing else you gotta admire his dedication
If you think life is pointless, then you haven’t truly endured suffering , not saying that I did, but just don’t forget to be grateful for what ya got already
@@mikenfcnorth Imagine going through a really hellish experience. The moment you finally get out of that you feel great amount of relief. Would you feel that life was pointless then? What was the reason you were put through that suffering in the first place? What is the reason you are finally free again? It sure as hell can’t be pointless can it? A lot of people that hint at the idea that life is just a pointless “matrix” or whatever are probably just bored, that belief probably stems from their lives being monotonous. And it is not really their fault that modern lifestyle can feel that way sometimes. I can relate to being through hardship since I was incarcerated for some time. Sitting in my cell and thinking and reflecting to myself finally got me to a realization - there is 100% purpose to you being alive and it is a great gift to BE.
@@alankussainov3489 there is no reason for why you suffered. why would anything metaphysical put you through hardships ?? that sounds way too anthropomorphic. i’d like to think deities would have way cooler shit to do .. but it is pretty cool to be able to have experiences. + what did being locked up teach you that no other experience could have ?? to be appreciative of your previous QOL ??
@@alankussainov3489 You're completely wrong. After extreme suffering, it never leaves you. You feel a shadow of it everywhere you go, where small things remind you of years stolen and the repeating question of why. You zone out some times, and you'll find yourself back in hell, other times there's nightmares where the same things happen again and again. It never ends, and really the only truth isn't to find meaning in life but to find enough spite that the existence of your tormentors is enough purpose to continue.
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His ideas have helped me with a limerence issue that has hit me several times, always for toxic people, only, and plagues me deeply. I am not a full stoic, seem to vibe more with Nietzsche. But, not judging it as good/bad, looking to see it as a gift and not a curse, and aiming to reintegrate that extreme need for a person back into my own business and not my subconscious projection of a trauma from years ago onto some random person.
This would explain déjà vu, or maybe each life has different outcomes like you live the same life over and over but different scenarios different paths like simulation
This is my speech. So, please, behold. I endured, still endure, and will endure suffering, but not for all eternity. I believe that everything is temporary, even the so-called "eternal torment" might have an end. I do not want anyone, not even those who died, and will stand before God, and be judged, and be either rewarded, or tormented, to suffer anymore. Eternity is eternity. Time is time. End is end. Everything will occur eternally, but with no pain. I want it all to happen. THE ETERNAL RECURRENCE will go on for all eternity, NOT all other things, except for this one thing, the Eternal Recurrence.
I selfishly want this to be true, so I can relive growing up in the 90s over and over again. Obviously I won't be aware of it, but I don't care. Nickelodeon....enough said
The way to actually reconciliate the idea of becoming and being from Heraclitus and Parmenides (and the way I suspect Nietzsche thought about it) is to recognize how they both true depending on the perspective. Parmenides argued that all that existed was a reorganization of the same 'particles,, nothing really changed. If were to change it had to come from nothing, because if it came from something that already existed, it was going to be made from the same 'particles'. But isn't this same reorganization of particles the change that Heraclitus was talking about? The difference is in perspective. Where Parmenides sees the same things just ordered differently, Heraclitus sees an infinite parade of configurations being spawned at each moment. The tension of opposites is resolved. This to me is more likely to be Nietzsche's perspective than the idea of the repetiveness of the motion of washing in the river
For quite some time I have watched all I can of philosophers and theologians here on You Tube and I like your presentations best. But I wish you would provide something full-length and more in depth.
came here cause i had a thought a long time ago "what if the world - the universe and reality repeats itself" no one understood me and now i have what its actually called "eternal return" what if deja vu is our past-future selves memories and when we remember them we also dont remember them - idk its hard to explain idk why i just wrote a entire paragraph...
i don’t think we’d even be able to remember anything ... your synapses die along w you + consciousness/you are definitely an illusion created by the brain. our bodies aren’t even our own - we have no control over what illnesses we might get as we age, how long we can ‘fight off’ diseases, etc. + wouldn’t this apply to all creatures on earth in theory
The theory that the Universe goes through an endless cycle of creation and destruction is not just philosophical, but scientific as well. Science doesn't think it would recreate itself the same way *every* time, but since the Universe consists of a limited amount of matter, it would be bound to repeat itself occasionally over the scale of infinity.
I kinda wish Nietzsche was still around so he could receive a better explanation of what evolutionary principles are. "Fitness" is relative to the environment, and it's not the most important aspect, reproduction is. It doesn't matter how strong and high up on the ladder you are, if you don't reproduce, your attributes don't go on. For some reason he seems to think it conflicts with his own assessments, but they don't, and I think it's because he's misunderstood evolution's fundamental driving forces and lack of ultimate goal. You can still pursue will to power independently of genetic drift. In fact, one could say genes have their own will to power, as even genes one might consider "unfit" can become dominant in the gene pool under certain circumstances, but it is a mindless brute forcing of semi randomized attributes that is foundational to life on earth either way.
It doesn’t matter how it works as theirs is no braking away from simple truth. We have no control or ability to brake away from the cycle. Take mirror and point it at another mirror. That’s reality looking at itself, what do you see? Same thing over and over and over. Never ending cycle. It is in us to deny that. As there is no reward for knowing this. It’s not knowing is what keeps us going
But what if your cycle is to break away from the cycle. I think your conciseness is the reward. It’s your turn in the cycle and you have the ability to alter it in how you carry out your life. Those mirrors are just a reflection of your reality now, they’ll just copy what you do cause your in control.
Eternal recurrence in a supernatural being is someone who like a musician eventually recurs until it becomes Apollo or King David or a Beethoven or a Leonard Bernstein!🎶🦻👁️🎺🧘🙏🌅✨👀
This reminds me of Einstein mentioning of energy. How it cannot be created nor destroyed. I do believe there is a creator though. One who has been existent and always will exist. Being as time itself is more of a process of mankind in the solar system due to the fact we age and eventually die. I don't believe the same rules of the solar system apply to all of the universe. But that's just my understanding. This is interesting though. I believe scientists regardless of their beliefs still hold great value in their discoveries and theories.
Nietzsche was a undoubtedly a philosophical giant. But I suspect that he was also somewhat of an insufferable prick. I have deep respect for his ideas, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want him as a roommate.
Thanks! I don't have a particular folder with all the art I use but it could be interesting to make one and somehow share it online crediting the authors, i'll think about it. Thanks!
As illogical as eternal recurrence sounds, I would be in support of it if we died, knew what our mistakes were, and could change them the next time around in the same life. If every little thing was already predetermined, there wouldn’t be much of a point.
‘Was that life ?’ I want to say to death. Well then! Once more, my friend! Death is das source of life because life is das source of death: Gold is reborn from supernovae.
Stephen King's The Dark Tower series is a story about eternal occurrence when its main character, Roland, at the end of his quest, starts anew, over and over.
With my limited understanding of quantum physics. Is this not the way of being in a multiversal super position with yourself. Just a random idea I thought may be interesting to someone else.
If you think about it, you have already lived over and over again, so is it really bad or good? If it needs to be pointed out to you, then you can't and won't know you are in an eternal recurrence.
@@dmiller4511 Everyone hates my kind of mind. I hate my life. It's hard making it on $1,900 a month and just 2 cars+ $500 welfare to skim by. Sorry if I'm in a foul mood, but I deserve way better. Pay up.
@@gen-x-zeke8446 maybe it is the same cesspool Nietzsche and Joplin found themselves in. He wrote books, she wrote songs. Not everybody hates your mind, you seem pretty smart to me. We are looking forward to seeing how you transmute the sh!t into something creative.
@@dmiller4511 I'll be just fine. Sarcasm is off is all. I have no doubts in my skills as a thinker just because I'm not famous. It would be great to converse with professors. I am a free thinker mostly with a collection of ideas and interests. I don't think philosophy is about 'knowing' to me. How much will ever be known?
@@Valkyrae123 fr. plus in the moment, life has subjective meaning as long as you give it meaning. just take each day as it comes and eat something nice
I was spontaneously spiritually enlightened Easter 2022.., God spoke to me telepathically …. Second coming and Live Forever…. Suffered enough …. Power of no fear and removal of negative emotions. Filled with a nirvana like love.
Eternal recurrence, means that the humans will all spawn again, but in unknowing... there will be interesting similarities, of those who look the same, with the same part or full name, doing the same jobs, every recurrence, the significance of these recurrences I cannot say, but I am sure they will happen....
If you have a great life this would be amazing. If you have a life that seems hard through and through then this would be a curse. If you’re like most of us and your life is a series of ups and downs, you’ll just feel tired. 😂
Luckily, the laws of physics don't care about many humans ego to believe in eternal life. 😮 We get one go at this ride so all we can do is make it a good one 👍 😅
Why would you hate this idea unless you misrepresent your life? We just always want more, such is the greatest sickness. There is nothing, let alone nothing MORE.
That I could be any the worse for the eternal recurrence of my hellish life would require that I have evidence for it. As it is I have no evidence for it.
See DNA markers for when the human species almost went extinct... the braids I assume here, are more twisted and dense, and hence are permanently passed on , to other offspring.
why ? the universe is ever expanding and i’m sure things repeat every once in a while if the particle mixture or some shit is just right. maybe you won’t become conscious ever again but eternal recurrence definitely holds some truth for other things in our reality.
You decisions are based on more than just your personal choices. Your life is culmination of all you have experienced, After Nietzsche died, we learned that Physics isn’t entirely deterministic. I believe Nietzsche’s Eternal Reoccurrence is a great philosophical idea, but it can definitely be improved.
Not gonna lie i’m confused a bit and a lot of this sounds like pseudo-hogwash. Not all like i said. Is he somewhat speaking to reincarnation with the internal reoccurrence?
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*"I shall return eternally to this identical and self-same life in the greatest things and in the smallest, to teach once more the eternal recurrence of all things. To speak once more the teaching of the great noontide of earth and man, to tell man of the Overman once more.”* - Nietzsche
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It was great! Thanks again friend.
Just was confused to get it twice into my feed.
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I'm from Spain and I am in love with the ideas of Nietzsche and I just wanted to comment that thanks for this compilation, I'm very happy that I'll be living discovering this video eternally :)
Right now, your past is set in stone. Just like in the future, this moment right now will be part of your past and it too will have been set in stone. And every other moment that lead to that future self will have been set in stone. You can't change the past because that would mean being able to change the future. It's just a show, like a movie streaming forever and ever. Nothing ever changes. It's your movie so relax and enjoy it! It's the only one that has been ever playing.
The Eternal Recurrence is a concept hinted at in Zelda and finally instantiated explicitly in Breath of The Wild. Whether or not it truly reflects the nature of the universe, it does reflect the nature of the human mind; that it can only go in any given direction so far before snapping back into the center.
Thus the mandala, conceived of as an ontological compass has a hidden identity with the uroboros. The Eternal Recurrence orients us towards life, whereas the idea of progression, though necessary, leads to separation and denial of life.
The latter can only ever be an illusion, but without it there is no consciousness.
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Can you say that again in English
The way out is in
The gate-less gate
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Eternal Recurrence might be true, but I would imagine it being on a much larger scale than one life, more fitting to the concept of infinity. Therefore it would rather be countless and countless lives as reincarnations to every possible form imaginable, with spiritual worlds between the reincarnations, and after eons and eons, when all else has been experienced, one would return to the same life he's living now. Actually, even if that were the case, I don't see why life should be exactly the same as before. First, you would have to experience all other possible variations to your current life. In this way it would certainly take so long to get back into the exact same life, it could as well be said never since it would take exactly the amount of time eternity takes.
@Ceaseless Watching Nothing is really gone, it will always exist as an idea within the cosmos
u might wanna check out the egg theory
Infinity is here an now but could be relevant lol
@ontyam But my question is this: what is truly possible? If all possible worlds can occur, is it possible for worlds to exist that contain superheroes and magic (i.e. worlds that would be considered impossible or fictional)?
@ontyam Good point, though I ask mainly because physicalists and certain scientists believe they know much of what is possible to know about the Universe and of existence. I just fine this laughably absurd; there’s no way we know as much as we think we do.
Is the eternal recurrence really just knowing that this life is finite? It will be stored in the Akashic like a book to be picked up every once in a while, unchangeable, but able to be experienced again. However, our consciousness continues to expand to be & become other things. Those who are very attached to THIS experience of life (the ego) despair over the idea of having to transform into something else. They want THIS form to be final &...well, God.
But...you can't be God without BECOMING GOD. (transforming)
I don't think it is right to characterize Darwin as advocating "the survival of the fittest", but rather, that he advocated the idea of natural selection. Fitness being less of a competitive notion than an adaptive one
"Life is play."
This is the statement that makes Peterson balk and turn from a philologist into a theologian. If he cannot impose responsibility on himself and others, he fears he has no power. His imprecations to gratitude spring from resentment.
If it's eternal then we are already reoccurring and can't detect it or remember. If we can remember then it's the essence of boredom. The natural feeling of discomfort when repeating tasks. So um... no thanks.
I thought a lot about Nietzsche’s assertion how he would have chosen to live his life again the same way as he has, or will have lived from his perspective at the time of writing. I think by writing it he suggests the readers should feel the same way. I think EVEN IF it were an option to any of us, it would be a hell and torture to live the same life again. Especially if you consider all the suffering and tragedies we see in lives of others as well as in our own.
The Buddhist view that it is best to never be alive again to suffer is a better choice.
I think that the concept of eternal reccurance might be misunderstood. I don't really believe that Nietzsche meant that he would born again and come through the exact same path. It is his eternal will that would rather reoccur again.
According to Alan Watts every human being carries nature in itself, thus there are no individuals but only dufferent types of will that those individuals carry. For me Jesus, Buddha, Nietzsche and me are all the same. Our lifes go on differently, but we all have something in common, we carry some sort of an eternal will(basically spirit) that makes us suffer and research the truth. Thus, I am Nietzsche. This is how Nietzsche infinitely reborns.
Yes! We are Now Billions, by the Way. Perhaps we make it Good this Time Around. Gonna be a Bumpy Ride, as Always was, is, and will be, Forever. ;D
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ive believed this for a while didn't know neitzsche did as well, very cool to hear what comes after that realization because i've had quite the hard time grappling with it
Same , I had an "epiphany " . Now I know I'm not alone. :)
Same
Speaking of Heraclitus, it'd be dope to see you do a video on him.
Very excellent video!
Just one thing though, and sorry if I'm splitting hairs here, but @ 5:33 Darwin himself never said "Survival of the fittest." That's a phrase which Herbert Spencer coined. I believe it's through his writings that Nietzsche learned about evolution, and not through Darwin directly. Apologies for being a stickler for the details though! Great video nonetheless!
Yea, it’s more like survival of the most adaptable to the environmental climate at that point in time.
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Great stuff! I've been wanting to do a bit of a Nietzsche pilgrimage for years to the Engadine and to the rock there where he first came up with the eternal recurrence (or rather where it came to him) I had never thought of Nietzsche as a metaphysician because of all the noise he makes about Plato and Christianity but of course it makes perfect sense with the eternal recurrence and will to power. They have always struck me as odd as to what exactly his belief was with them and what his attitude was-thought experiment or deep belief
Thanks! That place is beautiful. Really good point - thought experiment or deep belief. Nietzsche was one of those thinkers who lived what he thought.
In some of his posthumous notes he says:
"One must want to experience the great problems with one's body and one's soul"
In other words, the dichotomy between thinking and feeling, intellect and passion, has disappeared. He feels his thoughts. He can fall in love with an idea. An idea can make him ill.
@@Eternalised I'd never heard that line before that's great stuff. I've always felt with him that it was precisely his ideas that made him ill or that there's some deep connection there obviously he had that sense as well. If nothing else you gotta admire his dedication
your videos on nietzsche might be my favourite
If you think life is pointless, then you haven’t truly endured suffering , not saying that I did, but just don’t forget to be grateful for what ya got already
Can you explain further?
@@mikenfcnorth Imagine going through a really hellish experience. The moment you finally get out of that you feel great amount of relief. Would you feel that life was pointless then? What was the reason you were put through that suffering in the first place? What is the reason you are finally free again? It sure as hell can’t be pointless can it?
A lot of people that hint at the idea that life is just a pointless “matrix” or whatever are probably just bored, that belief probably stems from their lives being monotonous. And it is not really their fault that modern lifestyle can feel that way sometimes.
I can relate to being through hardship since I was incarcerated for some time.
Sitting in my cell and thinking and reflecting to myself finally got me to a realization - there is 100% purpose to you being alive and it is a great gift to BE.
@@alankussainov3489 there is no reason for why you suffered. why would anything metaphysical put you through hardships ?? that sounds way too anthropomorphic. i’d like to think deities would have way cooler shit to do .. but it is pretty cool to be able to have experiences. + what did being locked up teach you that no other experience could have ?? to be appreciative of your previous QOL ??
@@alankussainov3489 So basically your reasoning is that you gave yourself a reason to be alive?
@@alankussainov3489 You're completely wrong. After extreme suffering, it never leaves you. You feel a shadow of it everywhere you go, where small things remind you of years stolen and the repeating question of why. You zone out some times, and you'll find yourself back in hell, other times there's nightmares where the same things happen again and again. It never ends, and really the only truth isn't to find meaning in life but to find enough spite that the existence of your tormentors is enough purpose to continue.
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"One repays a teacher badly, if one always remains as a pupil"
His ideas have helped me with a limerence issue that has hit me several times, always for toxic people, only, and plagues me deeply. I am not a full stoic, seem to vibe more with Nietzsche. But, not judging it as good/bad, looking to see it as a gift and not a curse, and aiming to reintegrate that extreme need for a person back into my own business and not my subconscious projection of a trauma from years ago onto some random person.
This would explain déjà vu, or maybe each life has different outcomes like you live the same life over and over but different scenarios different paths like simulation
I don't think so, it all happens inside your brain and if you don't believe me please check out studies about it
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This is my speech. So, please, behold. I endured, still endure, and will endure suffering, but not for all eternity. I believe that everything is temporary, even the so-called "eternal torment" might have an end. I do not want anyone, not even those who died, and will stand before God, and be judged, and be either rewarded, or tormented, to suffer anymore. Eternity is eternity. Time is time. End is end. Everything will occur eternally, but with no pain. I want it all to happen. THE ETERNAL RECURRENCE will go on for all eternity, NOT all other things, except for this one thing, the Eternal Recurrence.
Your "speech" is full of holes. Maybe read more Nietzsche, then reconsider this text. The "Eternal Recurrence" implies everything.
More great content. Thank you👌
I selfishly want this to be true, so I can relive growing up in the 90s over and over again. Obviously I won't be aware of it, but I don't care. Nickelodeon....enough said
"Time is a flat circle"
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We need people that will simply spell out 'you' instead of 'u'. Dumb
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The way to actually reconciliate the idea of becoming and being from Heraclitus and Parmenides (and the way I suspect Nietzsche thought about it) is to recognize how they both true depending on the perspective. Parmenides argued that all that existed was a reorganization of the same 'particles,, nothing really changed. If were to change it had to come from nothing, because if it came from something that already existed, it was going to be made from the same 'particles'. But isn't this same reorganization of particles the change that Heraclitus was talking about? The difference is in perspective. Where Parmenides sees the same things just ordered differently, Heraclitus sees an infinite parade of configurations being spawned at each moment. The tension of opposites is resolved. This to me is more likely to be Nietzsche's perspective than the idea of the repetiveness of the motion of washing in the river
For quite some time I have watched all I can of philosophers and theologians here on You Tube and I like your presentations best. But I wish you would provide something full-length and more in depth.
Thank you for sharing, I wish you a great day, seen both parts great collab.
Thank you! You too!
came here cause i had a thought a long time ago "what if the world - the universe and reality repeats itself" no one understood me and now i have what its actually called "eternal return"
what if deja vu is our past-future selves memories and when we remember them we also dont remember them - idk its hard to explain idk why i just wrote a entire paragraph...
i don’t think we’d even be able to remember anything ... your synapses die along w you + consciousness/you are definitely an illusion created by the brain. our bodies aren’t even our own - we have no control over what illnesses we might get as we age, how long we can ‘fight off’ diseases, etc. + wouldn’t this apply to all creatures on earth in theory
The theory that the Universe goes through an endless cycle of creation and destruction is not just philosophical, but scientific as well. Science doesn't think it would recreate itself the same way *every* time, but since the Universe consists of a limited amount of matter, it would be bound to repeat itself occasionally over the scale of infinity.
What if the more vivid memories of our own lives have been reinforced by the eternal recurrence?
If that was the case u would be having them now so that's not the case
I kinda wish Nietzsche was still around so he could receive a better explanation of what evolutionary principles are. "Fitness" is relative to the environment, and it's not the most important aspect, reproduction is. It doesn't matter how strong and high up on the ladder you are, if you don't reproduce, your attributes don't go on. For some reason he seems to think it conflicts with his own assessments, but they don't, and I think it's because he's misunderstood evolution's fundamental driving forces and lack of ultimate goal. You can still pursue will to power independently of genetic drift. In fact, one could say genes have their own will to power, as even genes one might consider "unfit" can become dominant in the gene pool under certain circumstances, but it is a mindless brute forcing of semi randomized attributes that is foundational to life on earth either way.
It doesn’t matter how it works as theirs is no braking away from simple truth. We have no control or ability to brake away from the cycle. Take mirror and point it at another mirror. That’s reality looking at itself, what do you see? Same thing over and over and over. Never ending cycle. It is in us to deny that. As there is no reward for knowing this. It’s not knowing is what keeps us going
But what if your cycle is to break away from the cycle. I think your conciseness is the reward. It’s your turn in the cycle and you have the ability to alter it in how you carry out your life. Those mirrors are just a reflection of your reality now, they’ll just copy what you do cause your in control.
You seem to know too much. Tell me, WHY IS THIS CHANNEL SO UNDERRATED.?
Thanks a lot Joseph! Comments like these are what keep me going :)
What a great video !
Thanks a lot Wissam!
Sisyphus eternally trying to improve himself to roll up his rock.
Sisyphus is happy to roll up that piece of rock for all eternity because he is thankful for his strong and powerful body.
Because he sees the absurdity for what it is and gladly accepts it.
@@satnamo Wow.
Eternal recurrence in a supernatural being is someone who like a musician eventually recurs until it becomes Apollo or King David or a Beethoven or a Leonard Bernstein!🎶🦻👁️🎺🧘🙏🌅✨👀
More collabs with Weltgeist!
Very good !
Thank you!
This reminds me of Einstein mentioning of energy. How it cannot be created nor destroyed. I do believe there is a creator though. One who has been existent and always will exist. Being as time itself is more of a process of mankind in the solar system due to the fact we age and eventually die. I don't believe the same rules of the solar system apply to all of the universe. But that's just my understanding. This is interesting though. I believe scientists regardless of their beliefs still hold great value in their discoveries and theories.
Nietzsche was a undoubtedly a philosophical giant. But I suspect that he was also somewhat of an insufferable prick. I have deep respect for his ideas, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want him as a roommate.
Pain without complain isn't pleasure at all.
great video!
7:30 How does he judge what is eternally good or bad? His disgust lays to waste.
Very enjoyable. Would it be okay for me to drop a link for the Uberboyo discord into this channel as the overlap in topic is clear.
Thanks.
Thank you! Absolutely, feel free to share it anywhere.
@@Eternalised Thank you very much
Man, I would love you to provide us some way to access your art selection. I think it's superve. I love it. My taste.
Thanks! I don't have a particular folder with all the art I use but it could be interesting to make one and somehow share it online crediting the authors, i'll think about it. Thanks!
As illogical as eternal recurrence sounds, I would be in support of it if we died, knew what our mistakes were, and could change them the next time around in the same life. If every little thing was already predetermined, there wouldn’t be much of a point.
Thanks !!!
You should narrate the book. Sounds much better than the audio book version
‘Was that life ?’
I want to say to death.
Well then!
Once more, my friend!
Death is das source of life because life is das source of death:
Gold is reborn from supernovae.
I mean its a thought I had as well, before I heard of this
Stephen King's The Dark Tower series is a story about eternal occurrence when its main character, Roland, at the end of his quest, starts anew, over and over.
With my limited understanding of quantum physics. Is this not the way of being in a multiversal super position with yourself. Just a random idea I thought may be interesting to someone else.
2:50 stamping this.
The Hu-man is the flowing ongoing ever changing river of Spirit, Water, & Blood, Flesh, Bone, Marrow, Skin, Hair, & Nails in an Evolving Universe!
"Have I ever been here before? Is it better that I don't know?".
"The -river- Jordan is a symbol of becoming."
"If it's not fake then it's true"
If you think about it, you have already lived over and over again, so is it really bad or good? If it needs to be pointed out to you, then you can't and won't know you are in an eternal recurrence.
I wish I never existed.
Same
Oh my! Perhaps you're the Zarathustra of this eternal reccurence ;)
Did Nietzsche believe during the eternal occurrence could we remember our past life after death?
There are Always Connections and Things Occurring. ;D
No you misunderstood the idea
I don't know. Sometimes, I feel like the eternal recurrence isn't the biggest challenge to Amor Fati.
What if we except our vulnerabilities, eat chocolate, drink wine, and help others?
Side note: Now THAT'S a mustache!
He had a cool shirt that said Mustache rides 5 deutsch marks. That's how he got syphillis.
1. Born
2. What the fuck is this? 🤷🏼♂️
3. Death
Accepting no one really has a clue and that there is no salvation, is salvation .. ish..
One more thing: I think Zarathustra has read the book of Ecclesiastes. I think he studied it.
In the immortal words of Janis Joplin: It's all the same day. The only power you have is to raise your own consciousness.
Advice from a fkn drunk. No thanks
@@gen-x-zeke8446 nobody is telling you what to do
@@dmiller4511 Everyone hates my kind of mind. I hate my life. It's hard making it on $1,900 a month and just 2 cars+ $500 welfare to skim by. Sorry if I'm in a foul mood, but I deserve way better. Pay up.
@@gen-x-zeke8446 maybe it is the same cesspool Nietzsche and Joplin found themselves in. He wrote books, she wrote songs. Not everybody hates your mind, you seem pretty smart to me. We are looking forward to seeing how you transmute the sh!t into something creative.
@@dmiller4511 I'll be just fine. Sarcasm is off is all. I have no doubts in my skills as a thinker just because I'm not famous. It would be great to converse with professors. I am a free thinker mostly with a collection of ideas and interests. I don't think philosophy is about 'knowing' to me. How much will ever be known?
But...even if you did live your life repeatedly forever, this means nothing if you dont remember your past life.
There isn’t supposed to be a meaning behind life, life itself is meaningless we are here just cause.
@@Valkyrae123 fr. plus in the moment, life has subjective meaning as long as you give it meaning. just take each day as it comes and eat something nice
Your life is based on your actions, your actions are based on your experiences, your experiences are based on probability
ApeX. That is a very intelligent thought.
@@AYVYN And probability is based on...?
The dead are elsewhere and this is one of those places.
Yeah baby
I was spontaneously spiritually enlightened Easter 2022.., God spoke to me telepathically …. Second coming and Live Forever…. Suffered enough …. Power of no fear and removal of negative emotions. Filled with a nirvana like love.
an example the eternal recurrence is me not subscribing because I'm told to which is annoying enough to not do it even if I would've
Eternal recurrence, means that the humans will all spawn again, but in unknowing... there will be interesting similarities, of those who look the same, with the same part or full name, doing the same jobs, every recurrence, the significance of these recurrences I cannot say, but I am sure they will happen....
If you have a great life this would be amazing. If you have a life that seems hard through and through then this would be a curse. If you’re like most of us and your life is a series of ups and downs, you’ll just feel tired. 😂
Luckily, the laws of physics don't care about many humans ego to believe in eternal life. 😮
We get one go at this ride so all we can do is make it a good one 👍 😅
Any chance of explaining all this in English though for normal people
Why would you hate this idea unless you misrepresent your life?
We just always want more, such is the greatest sickness.
There is nothing, let alone nothing MORE.
That I could be any the worse for the eternal recurrence of my hellish life would require that I have evidence for it. As it is I have no evidence for it.
Look into Descartes, then come to this video again.
I am here after my 3 Time rewarching the máster piece the good place
I love all the philosophers in the comments. 😅 you guys have life all figured out.
Can someone please respond to this comment. Please watch the futurama episode “the late Phil j fry” is this essential what this theory is?
See DNA markers for when the human species almost went extinct... the braids I assume here, are more twisted and dense, and hence are permanently passed on , to other offspring.
I just don't believe in the eternal reccurence
why ? the universe is ever expanding and i’m sure things repeat every once in a while if the particle mixture or some shit is just right. maybe you won’t become conscious ever again but eternal recurrence definitely holds some truth for other things in our reality.
@@ash5779 well maybe we lived once who is to say things won't return the same again
Nice
Thank you!
watch the movie "reminiscent". We may replicate events of our own life. But not now,
You decisions are based on more than just your personal choices. Your life is culmination of all you have experienced, After Nietzsche died, we learned that Physics isn’t entirely deterministic. I believe Nietzsche’s Eternal Reoccurrence is a great philosophical idea, but it can definitely be improved.
wann ist nikkel
is it not already so obviously tragic, to exist without consenting to
THE FAITHABLE EXISTENCE
Rustin Cohle brought me here
Does not make sense.
Amor farty is the love of farts. In sound, fragrance and timing.
dude needed to smoke some weed lol
Not gonna lie i’m confused a bit and a lot of this sounds like pseudo-hogwash. Not all like i said. Is he somewhat speaking to reincarnation with the internal reoccurrence?
Most of it is psychological MUMBO JUMBO 😮.
The laws of physics don't care about our longing for eternal life 😂