How to color on “Amazon Paper”
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 เม.ย. 2023
- Today I’m talking about what people called “Amazon Paper” with respect to coloring books. I’ll explain what exactly Amazon paper is, why there are misconceptions about it, and how to get the most out of it.
The page I am coloring is from my book Lighthearted Mandalas Volume2. All of my books are available on Amazon and can be found here:
www.amazon.com/dp/B0BY15NJ1W?...
Thanks for watching! 🥰💖
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This is the issue. There ARE different types of not only paper but print quality used in Amazon printed books. Not only are there regional variations (a UK book will be different from a US for example) but even within the US alone I've identified multiple different papers/printing processes in my own personal purchases. A few examples (these are not the only authors by far but just to illustrate the differences): At the top we have the Morgan O'Brian (Matchstick Mouse) books.. this is great paper and takes any pencil/pen I've tried on it nicely. It's ink is crisp, even, and black, paper is white with an obvious higher quality press/fiber, and has nice tooth. Even handles a bit of watercolor. Very few books in this category that I've found. Then a middle example is Tatiana Bogema Stolova (Nice Little Town).. it's the ink is less crisp but still relatively even, paper is a bit softer in finish, not quite as white, and smoother... pencils are hit or miss depending on formula and pens may bleed, not a fan of moisture. Another middle example is Kameliya Angelkova (Miniatures/Fairy Houses/Mandalas series)... not as nice as the O'Brian books but different than the Stolova books.. less tooth but takes markers well with a little bit of bleed but not much, and the print is a bit more crisp, a thinner but slightly harder pressed paper. Then one of the worst Coco Wyo (tons of titles)... the ink is washed out and uneven sometimes with obvious streaks, paper is extremely soft and mushy, noticeably grey in tone, almost fuzzy surface...this garbage reminds of the throwaway sheets of recycled paper we used in elementary school for handwriting practice... nothing goes down well on it, it falls apart at the thought of moisture, and pens bleed like crazy.. it's like trying to use a felt tip on a paper napkin. They don't even scan well because of the grey tone and poor print quality. There are a LOT of books in that last category. Every one of them says "independently published".. and as far as I can tell there is NO way to determine what you are going to get when you place that order. There are also often differences from one book to the next from the same author.. and collections with a high page count consistently are lower quality. I've gotten halfway decent at looking at customer review images to determine what is just flat out awful (the ink defects are a dead giveaway).. but I've also wasted a lot of money on books I really don't enjoy working with and these days I avoid Amazon printed books unless they have enough reviews out there to determine they are one of the better quality options. I feel bad for the artists, and there are a few I support with Etsy downloads when they are offered as an alternative. I know I've avoided books that I would probably enjoy out of fear.. and feel like we need some serious transparency from Amazon, not only for the consumers benefit but the artists. You stated it's not fair that books get bad reviews due to paper.. but from the colorists standpoint it totally is... paper is everything in this medium and will make or break the artistic experience. I will 100% pay more for better paper, and I know I'm not alone.
OMGoodness thank you soooooo very much for all of your thoughts here. I personally learned so much, and am grateful for your comment so others can learn as well. I didn't realize that there are so many variations of the Amazon paper. As I stated, artists just have two choices BUT leave it to Amazon to take those choices and make them so varied and all at their own discretion. I personally haven't noticed the variation in the Amazon KDP coloring books that I've purchased, but you have so much more exposure to a much wider array of books than I have, I think. This is why your experience here is something I'm very grateful for. And you're right - transparency from Amazon on which paper you're getting exactly would be ideal. This really has given me a lot of insight on why people avoid the Amazon paper books from independent artists - the context you've shared is invaluable to me. As a consumer, I, too, am always willing to pay more for the nice quality paper. Thank you again, for chiming in here. I *truly* appreciate you so much! With warm regards - Kim 💖
@@snickerdoodlingllc I actually grabbed a few books out of my bookshelf and examined them more closely. I don't have any of the really awful ones (I gave those away to coworkers kids) but I compared a Matchstick, Nice Little Town 4, and Forest Song (RJ Hampson) side by side. All are printed out of Coppell TX, in either 2022 or 2023. All are different. Matchstick has perfect print, black and crisp.. a very even tooth, structured pattern of tiny round bumps. Paper isn't super heavy but you can't see through it unless you hold it up to the light. Forest Song has good print, slightly less black but no errors... but a completely different tooth (more organic, kind of like little waves) and it's noticeably thinner.. you can see the print easily from the other side. NLT is again completely different, much smoother (almost no tooth, soft pressed, but thicker than Forest Song) than either of the others, noticeable issues with print (vertical lines through the black although not a lot of them and they are not completely white), and the print is not solid, like I had printed it on "draft" setting on my printer. I thought perhaps I could isolate a difference.. printing location, year, etc but no. The only think I can point to with the Matchsticks is size, they are a smaller format book so perhaps they use different paper for smaller books? It's hard to say 100% without touching them but I think your books fall into that "middle" category with Forest Song and NLT based off your video. I can work with this level of quality. I have no idea why some of the others I gave away are so very bad... I truly thought there was a "budget" print option they were choosing. My best guess for these is that Amazon buys paper in bulk from various sources, whatever is cheap, and just doesn't care about being consistent or performance? The weird thing is I have Matchsticks from three different years so they should be different if that was true, and they aren't.. they all look like they were printed out of the same ream. The same is true for my Kameliya Angelkova books, I have six of them and they are all the same paper, but this paper is slightly different from the others I mentioned above. I have no explanation for the printing variance (color, crispness, lines) other than the effect of the paper on the process. Oh, one other thing I have notices is the print on my Matchsticks rubs off easily under pressure, especially with a blending pencil.. where my NLT doesn't (I tend to like Prismas blended out on both of these). It's all so weird lol.
@@waymire01 This is fascinating to me! I literally just bought the RJ Hampson book and now I need to check it. Ack! LOL I do own one Coco Wyo book (Beauties in Fairyland) and do think that paper feels weird to me. Also bought a book by Sasha Effgen (Beautiful Worlds of Ambiflage). The thing they both have in common is that both sides of the page have been printed on. Could this be a factor maybe or is my little Kim brain just drawing empty conclusions? Ha! And if you think about Amazon...originally KDP was for authors to self-publish a traditional paperback book, for instance. So I wonder if they are still using that same style printing press technology and paper? All of this is just me surmising on a lazy Sunday - I have zero facts to back that up! LOL But now you have me committed to go through ALL of my KDP books 🤣 I did notice when I colored in the Coco Wyo book with my Polychromos that I had a difficult time getting a smooth burnish on the page (you can see the fairy - just posted within the last month or so - on my IG page: @kimlikes2color). But there's still a lot of white texture poking through the color. And I gave up trying to get that nice look I normally get. Paper be darned! I have truly enjoyed the conversation with you & hope you'll stick around for more. I don't pretend to be an expert at anything but am just another person who loves to color! I hope you have a great evening, my friend! 💖
@@waymire01 I completely agree with everything you've said here and in your previous comment. I get so disappointed with the Amazon paper (my books also come printed in Coppell, TX) because it makes coloring a chore, rather than a joy. I have also stopped buying books that I am not 100% sold on for this reason. The only books that I "endure" the Amazon paper for these days are the RJ Hampson books. The best I have come up with is to get a few different sets of oil and wax pencils and I find the one that works best on each specific book that I get, and then try to make do, but it's not as fun when coloring is hard to do, and your hands get so tired, because of the paper.
@@lynnie0524 Hi, Lynnie! OMGosh I don't know HOW I missed your comment, I am SO sorry! I totally understand where you're coming from and get it! I love your tip on trying out different pencils to find what works best. And the fight with the paper - that is so frustrating and defeats the purpose of coloring for relaxation - aggghh!! Why fight it if you don't have to, right? LOL And BTW, I JUST got my very first RJ Hampson book and can't wait to color in it. Thank you SO much for sharing your thoughts with me and everyone else. I really appreciate you! 💖
Finally an effective video on how Amazon paper reacts to different coloring methods, your video is invaluable! As a future first-time KDP publisher my book is not strictly a coloring book per se but will have coloring page elements to it. Seeing the marker bleed through and closeups of your pencil work and how the paper reacts in each circumstance is exactly what my research needed to see. I think the public expects way too much bang for their buck, clearly this isn't expensive art gallery paper but you proved it is workable. Thank you for the effort Kim, you are appreciated.
Hi, Fred! Thank you for this very kind note on my video! I wanted to make something that could help people learn how to make Amazon paper work in their favor. I'm excited you're in the KDP Path - welcome to the fray! LOL!! BTW, do yourself a favor and read through the other comments here. I learned SO much more about Amazon paper from all of the comments that a lot of nice people took the time to leave me and to educate me further. Not all Amazon paper is created equal - that's the big take-away. I wish you so much success with your future book!! Thank you again for watching. I appreciate you so much! 💖💖💖
Way too much bang? There are so many colouring books out there with excellent paper for not even double the price of an Amazon printed book, and the prices keep going up.... I'm not expecting the same quality, but more than the current crappy paper. And yes, from time to time you get paper that is ok, if only they all were at least that quality.
@@DieterPrivate I can agree with you Dieter, the paper should be much better given what we pay for these books. But I actually expected the paper to be of even lower quality, almost as bad those old lined notebooks we had as schoolkids with the rough texture and excessive marker bleed. I'm just thankful Amazon opens up any kind of printing for independent publishers, glass half full I say.
@@DieterPrivate I also agree with you, Dieter! All coloring book illustrators were forced to raise prices back in June because Amazon raised their own printing costs (thanks for nothing, Amazon!). I honestly wish that we had better options to offer. But yes, at a minimum, ALL Amazon paper should be the same. I still can't get my head around why this isn't true. So frustrating for everyone, I think. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I really do value all of this feedback, and love learning from everyone. Have the best day today, Dieter! 💖💖💖
@@Fred.pSonic I love your positivity, Fred! Please keep me posted on your KDP progress! 💖💖💖
I always appreciate the paper no matter what. I'm an old fart and still remember what coloring books were ALL printed on back in the day. lol I can make the most out things. You're right about missing out on art work. I love the art that's out in the world of coloring. We are so fortunate.
LOL, Cyndi, I remember that paper soooo well, too!! (add me to the old fart group!) I actually like the slight texture that the paper has. But yes - I agree - there are SOOO many wonderful coloring books out there these days. I love that we have access to this wonderful art. Thank you SO much for chiming in and sharing your thoughts with me! 💖
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People can choose to scan onto better quality paper. Tysmfs makes a lot more sense. Plus it keeps costs low for us poorer people ❤
Yes, exactly! I scan/print a lot of my pages that I color from my books - it's such a great alternative! TYSM for sharing your thoughts, Lesley!!! 💖
I only use pencils so it doesn't make much difference to me that it's Amazon paper, it also makes them cheaper for me too. Those that say they won't buy the books off Amazon if they are printed on their paper, they are missing out on some good books. Like it has been said they can always print it on thicker paper anyway if they want to.
My favourite books are from Ameliya Angelkova, Lulu Mayo, Jade Summer, Colouring Cafe, any other cutie ones. My favourite pencils are Arrtx, Arteza tĥe expert normal pencils, Brutfuner squares, Faber Castell black editions. I don't have the èxpensive ones like Polychromo's, Caran D'ache, Holburns, Prismacolours, & Derwent other than havìng the Chromaflow ones.
Happy colouring people xx
@@yvonnewest3132 Yes! I agree that pencils don't have to be expensive to create beautiful coloring pages! I'm enjoying all the varied feedback I'm receiving on this little video. The conversation has been both interesting and educational for me (and I hope others as well!) I truly appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and feedback, Yvonne! Now I need to go get me some Arrtx pencils - they seem to be so highly recommended! Hope you have a great rest of your day 💖
I simply don’t buy books printed on amazon paper, i dislike the paper to color on. I also don’t want to copy the pages. when i buy a book i like to color in that book and have the experience to slowly complete a book. The same reason i wont buy any pdf’s 😉Im totally oke to pay more for better paper💕 thank you for explaining the reasons illustrators have to go for the amazon paper, its just a no for me.
Oh gosh I TOTALLY get it! I mean, coloring is supposed to be a relaxing experience. And if someone is coloring on a paper they totally hate - NOT relaxing! LOL!! I don't purchase PDF's either, but I also don't have a printer in my home. I actually have to print my coloring pages when I'm in the office (SO much fun... 😳) I'm so glad you stopped by my little channel & shared your thoughts with me. Really appreciate you! 💖
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Thank you for your hints and tricks they will be very useful.
I'm so glad you found the content helpful, Sherry! Thank you for your feedback!! I appreciate you! 💖
Amazon paper never bothers me,I totally get how some people don't like working on it though,brutfuner,faber castell black edition and black widows are always my go to with this type of paper and a blender pencil
Yes!! I agree about the faber castell's and black widow's (I don't have the bruntfuner's). I think it's all about trying different pencils to find what works best for you. Thank you soooo much for sharing your thoughts, Steph! I really appreciate you! 💖
I don't have a problem either I think it is practising with different pencils and sometimes I found it is the harder pencils seem to be best softer ones seem to be a bit grainy I even use cheap Crayola's
Hi Kim. I'll have to give my Polychromos another go. I don't really like them. I love that black and white and color one you showed at the end. 👍🤓🖖👽
Thank you sooo much! I like my Polychromos but my favorites will always be my Prismas. LMK what you think after you try you polys again! 🙌🏻💖 TY for the compliment on the page! 🥰🥰🥰
This is amazing Kim! I learned a few tricks and now I understand Amazon paper much better! Thank you for this super fun tutorial ❤
I’m so happy to hear this, Chia-Hui! Please don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions! 💖💖💖
Thanks for this video presentation on the paper quality. It really helps me to make future decisions. For a newbie colorist, this is invaluable. 👍😄🌠
Hi, Bianca! I am SO glad you found this helpful. I was a newbie colorist myself not too long ago, so I get where you're coming from. Please reach out if there's anything I can help you with! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! 💖
@@snickerdoodlingllc Thank you, I will. Have a great weekend.
@@BiancaIris33 you, too! 💖
Awesome video! I live in Hurst. Nice to see more colorist from Texas.
Thank youuuuu! And how fun that you're in Hurst! I'm in Aubrey! I also think it's so much fun to run across other Texans in coloring circles, especially when they are local to me! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for watching & chiming in, my friend! 💖
Thank you so much for such an awesome video!! I’m a new colorist and had no idea that many of the coloring books I have ordered from Amazon are printed on Amazon paper. Now I understand why my coloring pages looked horrible before I spent the last few months improving my coloring skills. Also, you video may have inspired me to consider coloring with alcohol markers which I didn’t think I would like. I print most of my coloring book pages on vellum card stock and Strathmore coloring and tonals because the wax pencils lay down nicely. You have definitely recharged my excitement for coloring. Thank you again!
This makes me so happy to read that the video was helpful to you! I fought against this paper for soooo long before I realized what was going on. I can't wait to hear what you think of working with alcohol markers. I have a few reels on my IG page where I'm working with blending alcohol markers (IG: @snickerdoodlingllc) If you try them out, be sure to tag me! Thanks for watching and providing this nice feedback! 🥰
@@snickerdoodlingllc Thank you so much for your reply! I know how busy people are these days so I don’t expect to get a 👍🏽 let alone a reply. You made my day😀
@@angeldoll7702 OMGoodness you are way too sweet! I hope you have a really good day. And LMK if you have any questions. I'm going to try to make some alcohol marker tutorials for y'all. 😀
@@snickerdoodlingllc An alcohol marker tutorial(s) would be awesome!!! Thank you!
Great informative video! I am also always sad to see people giving bad reviews bc of the paper... when the artwork is great! I prefer using alcohol marker flat base to get rid of the white, then coloring with pencils to add shading. I recently tried polychromos doing that for the first time and was really happy! I think the oil based pencils being harder allow them to stay sharper and get into the all the little ridges of the paper better. The Castle Art Gold are also really good on Amazon paper.
Hi, Meghan! I'm so glad you enjoyed my video! I agree about the Polychromos being a little more effective at getting into the ridges to flatten them out. What a great tip about using alcohol markers as your base. I am definitely going to try this! Yay! I'm so glad you stopped by my little channel! Have a great day! 💖
Lots of good information. I love your voice,really easy to understand. If I knew you I could tell I would love you as a friend 😊
Lory, this is THE kindest thing ever! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! If you're on IG, come find me: @kimlike2color and/or @snickerdoodlingllc. I'd love to connect! 💖
If I want a different paper I can cut the drawing from the book that has what I want to color. I will put it in my printer and transfer the image to whatever type of paper that I desire to color on. All alcohol markers will bleed through a paper and most cardstocks. But I just put a piece of paper under the page I am coloring. It protects the next page but not a page directly behind that image. It will be lost. So I would say to figure how to get the look that you want and color on! Relax and be happy.
These are such wonderful tips, Linda! Thank you so very much for taking the time to share them not just with me but everyone else on this chat. And YES! Relax & be happy! That's such a great way to go through life. I love it. Thanks again - I really appreciate you so much!! 💖
Hi Kim, I am following up with you regarding your suggestion of using hair spray on your printed images before coloring with alcohol markers to prevent the inkjet printer ink from smearing...I tried several types of cardstock and this worked great as long as I didn't add any layers. For example the face...putting down one layer did not smear but when I added the shading (for the shadow) the ink from the mouth, eyes, and nose the ink smeared. I tried using the greyscale pages to enhance the shadows. it is not perfect but I am not an artist so I am fine with the results! Being able to to color an entire page with alcohol markers was my goal so this is a win for me! Thank you for the great suggestion!
Thank you so much for checking back in to let me know how this worked out for you, Dea! 👏🏻✨ I’m so glad it was helpful for you. I will have to try this myself sometime. Hope you’re having a great weekend! 💖💖💖
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and talent! New to " Adult Coloring" ...lol! You have had me stuck in a rabbit hole starting with the Bubble technique, which I'm going back to rewatch fully awake..now! Thank you! Happy Coloring!
Holly thank you SO much for your comment & I'm giggling at the rabbit hole LOL!!! 🤣 I'm so glad you find the tutorial enjoyable and helpful. Thank you so much for stopping by my little channel. I really appreciate you so much!! If there are any tutorials you'd be interested in, please let me know. Have the best day today!! 💖💖💖
I definitely have had this issue with the paper. For example, I love Tatiana Bogema's work but I bought one of her Nice Little Town Christmas books and the paper was so terrible that I didn't even want to try to color in it and I sent it back! Ever since then, I have been afraid to buy Amazon printed books! I hate that because there are so many artists that I love their work, but the paper makes it impossible to enjoy coloring them. It really makes me sad!
I feel this!! I didn't understand until I made this video and started hearing from everyone how much the Amazon Paper varies from one printing location to the next. You might be in one of those locations that has just terrible paper - I think I heard Vegas for sure and somewhere on the East Coast (Baltimore maybe? I need to look back through the comments here). But I agree - it makes for a very disappointing experience all around. Where are you located, Nicki? I'm curious to know which location prints your books. Thank you so very much for sharing your thoughts here. I really appreciate you! 💖💖💖
@@snickerdoodlingllc I live in Ohio. I wish I had checked in the book where it was printed before I sent it back! But at that time I didn't know that it varied! I have a few other books that are Amazon printed, I'll have to dig them out and see what it says! I also didn't realize how much of a difference it makes depending on which pencils you use. I have Prismas and Polychromos now so maybe I will try the Polys on one of the Amazon printed books that I have and see if that helps! I'd definitely like to try out your books! So does it boil down to getting published? Or am I misunderstanding?
@@nicole_silvers First of all OMG I LOVE OHIO! I worked on some projects for Bank One in Columbus about (gasp) almost 30 years ago. What a gorgeous state!! Where are you at in OH? Lucky girl!! Yes, try the Polys or any other oil-based pencil to see if that makes a difference. One person here commented that the paper in my books that I featured in this video (which are printed at the Coppell, TX location - local to me) has better texture than the paper they've seen/experienced. So it's really what here in Texas we call a crap-shoot., depending on your local Amazon print location. 🙃Thank you so much for your interest in my books - if you get one I hope it makes you happy (and that the Amazon Paper isn't a total fail!). I'm not sure I'm following the getting published question you had - would you mind rephrasing for me, pretty please? Thank you so much for all of your wonderful feedback, Nicki! 💖💖💖
Thank you for this. My "local" Amazon printing is done out of Delaware and they are so bad. I have returned many books. The images are blurry, streaky and the ink is darker or lighter in different areas on the page. So I usually will not purchase them. I think the mandala books would be ok, but greyscale or images with lots of details just always look horrible from this printing location.
Gina thank you SO much for this feedback. I would return those books, too - it sounds like Amazon's press IN DE is just awful...yuck! I am learning so much today from all of you. I do have a few grayscale books I purchased recently, and now I'm curious to see how the paper in those perform. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts! I hope you've had a wonderful weekend! 💖
Love LOVE this video Kim! As you know, you and I have discussed this at length and I really appreciate you addressing the Amazon paper issue. Personally I love the paper and find my polychromos work great but I’ve definitely had my fair share of negative reviews based on “Amazon” paper. Great information and tips, my friend!
OMGoodness I’m so glad you chimed in here, my dear friend. I feel the same about the paper and think it’s great and actually like the small bit of tooth that it has. I hope others find this video educational and helpful! 🥰✨💖🙌🏻
I’m going to share this vid in my Instagram stories. Very good info 👏🏻💕
@@nicolalehmann7608 OMGOSH, you’re amazing. TYSM!! 💖
So glad i found your channel through IG. Where have I been? haha!..Great video! I Enjoyed coloring in Lighthearted Mandalas To Go. I used what i have, Markart, Starjoy and some Prisma colored pencils. I will be trying alcohol markers and of course put card stock behind the page. On to the next video. 🙋👍🌅
Valerie!! Yay you found my YT channel - so nice to see you over here. I'm so excited you're enjoying my LM2GO book - I had so much fun with the designs. I can't wait to see what you do with alcohol markers in the book. Thanks for dropping by my little channel!! Have a great day! 💖
Wonderful information! Your water-based blend was actually nicely blended. They are so hard to work with until you have your light bulb moment with them. Fun video! You had me lol- ing throughout 😊 thank you for sharing your process with us!
I film these in our infamous “winging it” mode 😂 Thanks for watching, Karry, and for always being so supportive! 🥰💖
Hi Kim! What a Wonderful Video! Amazon Paper, is very workable. There are things you can use to blend your pencils and get rid of the white spots. Pencil blenders, Colorless Marker Blenders, Gamsol etc. Oh, it really burns Me to here that statement. Most all of My Books are made with Amazon Paper. Thank You so very much for Sharing this Wonderful Video!!!
DoodleRobot42 on TH-cam has a excellent video about how to color with Water based Markers. Thank You for the Mention!
Have a Wonderfully Colorful Weekend 💜💜
These are such fantastic tips, Sherry! I sometimes use my Prisma blender pencil to help smooth out my colors. I will have to check out DoodleRobot’s video. TYSM for watching and sharing this wonderful information! 🙌🏻✨💖🥰
You're Very Welcome, Kim!👍🏻💜
Hey Sherry!! Thank you for the shout out. 🙋🖖👽
@@doodlerobot42 You're very Welcome! When Kim mentioned 'water based markers' the first thing I thought of, was your video. You have Mastered them! Have a Great Day, My Dear Friend! 🤓🖖✌️
Great video Kimberly ❤❤❤
Thank you so very much, Jennifer! I'm glad you enjoyed it! 🥰💖
Thoroughly enjoyed this video, so glad YT recommended it! Just ordered your 3 books and can't wait for them to arrive! Also, just signed up as a new subscriber, and I'm going to really enjoy your channel - to watch the rest of your videos!
Fran, you just made my day! I was so nervous to make the few videos I have out here. I'm so glad they were enjoyable to you! I have some ideas for more videos, but if there's a technique you really want to learn, LMK, ok? Thank you for subscribing and WOW for purchasing all 3 books! 😱 I'm blown away by your kindness. I really hope you enjoy the books. Be sure to find my IG channel: @snickerdoodlingllc I do a monthly coloring challenge over there for everyone. I hope you have a great day! Thanks again for stopping by and leaving me your thoughts! 💖
Your video is very good, as well as being educational, it was very useful. I had been fighting with my prisms for a while, insisting just because I paid a lot for them, I even thought they were fake. I couldn't accept being the only person in the world who couldn't paint something acceptable, your video clarified one of my doubts... hallelujah!
Some papers really require separate pencils or markers.
I'm even feeling lighter 😂😂😂😂
I'm so glad this video was helpful to you, Audi! Yes, sometimes the paper will dictate the pencils or marker that we should use to get the best result. I'm so glad you're feeling better about your Prismas, too! That must be a relief!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feedback with me 💖💖💖
This is fabulous information! 💜💜💜
Thank you so much, my dear friend! 💖💖💖
very helpful, thank you
I'm so glad you enjoyed this video, Audrey. Thanks so much for stopping by my little channel. I appreciate you! 💖💖💖
I too have found that my Castle Arts, Brutfuner, Star Joy and other work extremely well on the Amazon paper. In fact, all of my pencils work well on paper with a little bit a tooth. My trouble as a pencil-only colorer, I have trouble finding pencils that work well on the slick papers like Kerby Rosanes and Johanna Basford. Maybe those books are more for marker colorists?
Hi, Deana! The smoother paper can be trickier because of the lack of tooth. While the Kerby and Johanna paper is extremely nice for markers, the downside is that the markers do bleed through, so you aren't able to color on the back side of that page (since these books have 2-sided drawing pages).
For the pencils....I'm thinking you won't need to use as many layers for sure on this slicker paper, but for me - I find I don't have to work so hard to get the blending and color I want because I'm not fighting the texture of the paper. I've not colored with any of the pencils you've mentioned (but have heard soooo many great things about these brands!), but maybe others here can chime in? Is the difficulty you're experiencing in the blending of the pencils? If so, have you tried using mineral spirits or a blender pencil maybe? I'm so glad you chimed in here with your thoughts. But LMK how I can help here! I hope you have a wonderful day! 💖
@@snickerdoodlingllc Thank you for responding, and so quickly! I do have the new Arrtx set and Prismacolor but I suppose I've been holding off on using them until I have a little more experience coloring. Do those two brands work well on really smooth paper?
@@deanamontgomery7410 I've not used the Arrtx but am an avid Prismacolor gal. I know that the Arrtx pencils are supposed to behave very similarly to the Prismas and have heard wonderful things about them. I am admittedly biased towards my Prismas , but I think they blend beautifully on this thicker card stock paper. I'm not able to attach a picture here, but if you go to my IG account (@kimlikes2color) you'll see a recent picture I colored from Kerby's Alien Worlds book using Primas. I use my Prismas for probably 90% of the pencil work I do. Why don't you give the Prismas and the Arrtx pencils a try and see if you enjoy those better on this paper. I'm hoping you will! 💖
I have the same issue! While some Amazon printed books are worse than others, I never had many issues with it when compared to slick paper. Romantic Country is the worst. Thanks God I only bought one.
@@mchobbit2951 please let me know how I can help! What kind of pencils do you like to color with? I don't have Romantic Country, so I can't compare to other papers. Thank you so very much for sharing your thoughts here! 💖
Thank you
@@patriciadimarco8378 you’re so very welcome, Patricia! I’m so glad you stopped by my little channel. I truly appreciate you! 💖💖💖
Okay, now I am SUPER curious. Because when I get Amazon printed books, they all say Las Vegas. And just listening to the paper as you're manipulating it, it sounds WAY heavier than what comes in any Amazon printed book I've ever gotten. The paper from the Las Vegas press is THIN, you can literally see through it and read printing from the opposite side (not to mention multiple printing flaws in every book). Maybe Amazon prints the books locally, and not all their presses are equal?
Hi! Thank you SO much for your comment and feedback. From what I have been able to gather, Amazon will usually print your book from the facility that is closest to you. From some of the comments below, that doesn't always seem to be the case. I tried to Google a list of their facilities in the US, but that seems to be something they don't share with the public. I thought I had read online that they also might farm out the printing in some cases to a 3rd party, but am not sure if that comment was true or super old. I CAN tell you from the comments on this video, that the paper is DEFinitely different from one facility to the next. That's weird as I would think it might be cheaper for them to supply the same paper all over, but maybe it's cheaper to source the paper closest to the facility. Either way - it's definitely inconsistent not only from one facility to the next but even from one book to the next. This doesn't help the bad rap this paper has one bit. The more y'all respond to this video, the more I learn about how this paper truly is ALL over the place. I wish I had a better answer for you, Melehu. But it's people like you providing feedback that are helping to fill in the picture here for all of us. I truly appreciate you & hope you'll stick around the channel. Have a fantastic day!! 💖
@@snickerdoodlingllc I wonder if you could get any feedback from Amazon on this point. Maybe tell them that customers are complaining that some of the paper is really poor. My Amazon printed books come from Las Vegas and they are BAD. BAD bad. Consistently so--so much that I actually do not buy Amazon printed books. Which SUCKS, because a lot of the independent artists' actual ART is far better. It's also super unfair to the artists who get bad reviews because of something out of their control.
I did go buy one of your books though. Wish I could compare books from different Amazon printers!
@@melehu8368 Oh trust me they have heard plenty about their paper. UGH! It's such a frustrating situation for everyone all around. And gosh - thank you so very much for purchasing my book! I'm curious to know if it's printed in Vegas.... Ping me and let me know, ok? BTW - there was a poster below that doesn't live near DFW whose books are always printed in Coppell, TX (in the DFW area). So this is where I'm not always convinced that location dictates where the book is printed. So let's maybe test this with my book that you purchased to see where it's printed. I really super appreciate you and your business, Melehu! 💖💖💖 I hope you enjoy the book! 🥰
@@snickerdoodlingllc Every single one I have ever purchased has been Las Vegas. It should be here tomorrow, so I'll let you know! *SCIENCE* LOL
@@melehu8368 LOL@ "SCIENCE"!! Well please LMK how this turns out. I've been toying with offering my books as digital downloads as an option, buuuuuut I'm not completely sold on it just yet. Hope you have a great day today my friend! 💖
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Thank you so much, Kimberly!!! 💖💖💖
Oh great I did it again, after watching your peony coloring video I just had to ask for you to do a video on coloring books with the best paper for pencils.
This was a good video that I am glad I watched. Lots of Amazon books printed here in SC. Also I occasionally get some printed from KY....never mind that....
FIRST IF ALL!
You MUST make a little noise when coloring either dink, dink, dink when you are making specs or coloring small areas.
Other sounds I will save for another day.
Now when your pencil goes out of the lines do not scold or it can become even more unruly.
So nice to have found your videos. Now lets see if I can find a video on highlighting before I request one.
Thanks for the smiles and anither Aha! moment.
LAW
OMGosh you have me laughing! LOL!! I will definitely add "dink dink dink" to my coloring methods for sure. Very curious about the other sounds you mentioned.... And I always color outside the lines and have learned to not care anymore. I'm not perfect and my coloring pages are DEFinitely not perfect either LOL!!!
Ahhhh yes - a video on highlights! I have one on shadows, but will create this one for you. Always open to any other tutorial ideas you'd like to see! Thank you again for watching. The thing I love most about creating these videos is being able to interact with others who love to color. I'm always learning new things from y'all! So grateful and appreciative! I hope you enjoy your day, sweet Lee Anne! 💖💖💖
I love the bold colors you use! You even have videos on how to color gems, metals (I hope it's you).
In order to not confuse by revealing too many sounds at once.So here is another for when you may not like a color combination after all....
"Eh,eh,eh," No way could these colors could have changed overnight!
Fine, (another sound) sheeeesh, then. "watch this" either get out the markers or turn the page.
Oh! A coloring book I just found by Victoria Chukalina is "Flowers and Butterflies. The rest of her's are Mandalas I believe. Like you have too!
Anyhow check it out, the paper especially and let me know what you think. It is spiral bound with color palettes, hard cover (spiral on top) blotter page and color chart. With her artwork on front and back and inside cover. WITH HER COLOR PALETTES!
Some I have a hard time matching but you will be fine I am sure.
If I have enough $ left after I get the cat fixed I will surely send you one if I can figure out how.
I will sooner or later look for your Facebook page and send you the picture I love that I did because of you the poor rose was saved!
Many smiles and Get busy either with the highlighting video or more of your vibrant coloring. I have shades in now so I am ready. Thanks.
@@LAWandCoach I will DEFNIITELY use "eh eh eh" and "watch this" for sure LOL!!! OMGosh you're so funny!!
I'll have to check out this book or maybe add it to my Christmas list, as it sounds pretty amazing!
BTW I always have a link to my FB and IG accts in the descriptions for my videos. You can also find me on my personal IG coloring acct @kimlikes2color. I have you highlights video idea on my list, so I'll definitely get to it soon.
And I'm so glad you love the vibrant colors I use. I have tried SO hard to color very softly and in the end, I just can't... LOL!! So BAM! COLOR! LOL!!
Thanks for all the fun comments these past few days. I'm so excited you're hanging out with me on my little channel. Hope your Sunday has been a good one, my friend! 💖💖💖
I am off the rails again but if you are in Texas you may be able to see the northern lights.
Look and see when, I am not sure.
Maybe some new ideas for color combos ! Hee hee.
I sent you picture after I finally found you on Facebook. Jeez, I won't be working for NASA anytime soon. I missed the LLC part. Ran into a bunch of Snickerdoodle recipes though....
All the best. LAW
@@LAWandCoach LOL!!! That has been a problem with people trying to find me (nothing against the cookies!) - but I'm so glad you did!!
BTW - WHAT? Northern Lights in TX? I'm definitely going to look that up! I saw them down in Waco on a HUGE space/anomaly/fluke thing when I was in high school in the mid 80's. It was so cool to see! And to funny we're talking about this because I'm working on a Rita Berman page and was just telling one of my coloring friends this morning that I might try to color in the northern lights in the sky in the background. GMTA, Lee Anne! LOL!!! 🤣
I use a clear piece of acetate under the page I'm colouring
What a fantastic idea!!! Thanks so much for sharing this. I can't wait to try it! Thanks so much for stopping by to watch. I appreciate you!!!
I can appreciate all good illustrators but I’d definitely never buy Amazon paper published colouring books again. Hanna Karzohn books are definitely my fave 🙏
OMGosh I don't blame you one single bit. I've learned so much from everyone after I made this video. I truly appreciate everyone's point of view on this. And seriously - Hanna K is THE best!! I absolutely adore her books. They are amazing and such high quality! Thanks you soooo very much for sharing your thoughts. I truly appreciate you! 💖
Came back to say I discovered the horror of Las Vegas printed paper 😩😫😫😫. I tried polychromos, arrtz and luminance pencils on this paper before finding that the prismscolors were the easiest to work with on this paper. All the other ones filed the tooth too quickly and didn’t feel as smooth.
OMGosh I had this very same experience recently, Sophia! I got a Las Vegas book and the experience was not fun. I also found that my Prismas worked better he best on this paper. I was not prepared for that! LOL!!
@@snickerdoodlingllc 🤣😂😂 loll
@@snickerdoodlingllc neither was I 🤣😂😂. Hence why it was the very last pencil I tried 😂💀
@@HarperSophia LOL!!!! I feel you on this one! 😂😂
When you create coloring book, you add 1 black page on every page? Or Amazon adds blank reverse white page?
Hi, Pablo! The illustrator actually adds the black background to the back of the page, not Amazon. Amazon will print whatever the illustrator submits to them. I hope that helps! Thanks for stopping by to watch my little channel. I appreciate you! 💖💖💖
Testing some budget brands of pencils or whatever you have on Amazon paper might be cool. Often, those of us coloring in the adorable Amazon printed coloring books can not buy the Johanna Basford plus other more expensive books because we are on a budget. Budget pencils or other coloring supplies would be helpful as they are also less expensive! 🤗😍
This is a great idea, Karen! I'll try to put something together on this. Really appreciate it!! 💖💖💖
@snickerdoodlingllc You're quite welcome! 🤗 With the bad rap Amazon paper gets, the coloring community really needs a champion for it! 🏆 You seem to be an ideal choice as you have books out there in that paper! ❤️ Show us great ways to use it!! Thank you!! 👍
@@Kreative_Rainbow Gosh, thank you so much, Karen! Honestly, I've learned SO much from everyone that took the time to provide their feedback on this video. I wouldn't call myself a Champion, per se, because it really depends (from what I've learned here) on where you live determining the "quality" of the Amazon Paper. I still can't get my head around why Amazon varies the paper and likely also their printing presses from one location to the next. It's frustrating for both illustrators and consumers for sure. One of the qualities I get from my Dad is to make lemonade from situations when I can, which is what I was trying to do with this little video. Thanks for all of your wonderful positive feedback. I appreciate you! 💖💖💖
Thank you for this video. I have problems with alcohol markers on the Amazon paper. So, I have copied the pages on a heavier cardstock but since I have an inkjet printer the black lines on the image bleed into my alcohol markers. Any suggestions?
Hi, Dea! I saw you reply & just did a little research for you. I've seen quite a few comments where people are saying that after printing their page with their inkjet, they will spray a very light single coat of hairspray on the page to "seal" the ink. I wonder if that might help? Also - (if you haven't already) check your printer settings to update for the heavier paper you're using. But I'm not sure if that would really make a difference of not. A more extreme solution would be to print the page on normal copy paper & then take it somewhere to have it copied on nicer paper. But again, that feels extreme and expensive to me (gah!) Let me know if the hairspray trick works. I've not tried it myself but wonder if that can solve the problem for you. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!!! 💖
@@snickerdoodlingllc Thank you for the suggestion! I will try it this evening and I will let you know the outcome. My printer does not have any issues taking the 80# cardstock. I have copied the image on the better paper and taken it to several places to have it printed on a laser printer, to hopefully keep the ink from bleeding but was informed it could not be copied/printed because of copy right laws. The places that I tried was at Staples, Fed Ex, used to be called Kinkos, and Office Depot. Thank you again!
@@justdea5757 I didn't realize that print places wouldn't photocopy books for us (but that makes sense!). (I'm so sorry I'm just now seeing your reply, too.....These are getting buried!) I hope you have luck with the paper in your printer (sounds like that might work ok for you!). 💖
I was very excited to see this video because I’m still fairly new to coloring and just got my 1st Amazon paper coloring book and almost cried at how horrible the experience has been. Had this been my first experience in adult coloring, sadly I would not have continued. I’m very lucky to be blessed with a healthy budget and within reason have slowly built a wonderful collection of pens and pencils. My first book purchase did cause me a moment of fear and anxiety, so much for lowering my stress 🤣🤣 but is how I found this community on YT. I don’t want to budget for a printer or find space etc to be printing and binding these books the way I would like them and is why I would hope to buy them out in the marketplace but I guess times are changing and as they say, ‘if you want it done right then you have to do it yourself.’ My current and new in 2021 printer will not take card stock because that would have been to easy, however I did find by accident that printing on grayscale did lay down a perfect amount of ink for the half of the paper it did print on, but it did not lift off or smudge. Maybe for those who’s printer will grab and hold on to the card stock this might work? Sorry so long but in the end I wish Amazon could give options in printing choices, this way the Artists work can be enjoyed at all levels and budgets.
@@TheSliverleaf thank you SO very much for sharing your thoughts! I'm so glad you found this video to be helpful! I've learned SO MUCH from everyone who has taken the time to share their experiences here with me. The biggest thing I learned was that not all Amazon paper is created equal (to make things even more frustrating for everyone - gah!) I'm excited that you figured out a way to print designs on your printer. Hopefully others will be able to benefit from the solution that you found. I'm so grateful that you took the time to share your thoughts and experiences with everyone here - it means the world to me! Enjoy the rest of your day (or evening)! 💖💖💖
This was helpful. Do you know of a source for tan tone paper to scan or download on
Hi, Debby! I asked my Prismacolor expert friend for her opinion on this one, as she scans/prints a TON of pages at her home (I normally print in the office on white cardstock).
She recommends the Astrobright Colored Cardstock which she said is readily available at Walmart (but I'm not sure where you're located?) It's a 65lb paper and she said is has a little texture but not a lot. Also said it works beautifully with colored pencils.
I couldn't find a tan - but see if you like this cream color maybe? I'm glad to keep looking. Let me know what you think! And thank you for stopping by and watching, Debby! 💖💖💖 I hope this works for you!
www.amazon.com/Astrobrights-Colored-Cardstock-Individual-Sheets/dp/B0971MR3W3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35QLOWC3J9ICK&keywords=astrobrights+colored+cardstock%2C+8.5%22+x+11%22%2C+65+lb%2F176+gsm%2C+cream&qid=1701125736&sprefix=astrobrights+colored+cardstock%2C+8.5+x+11+%2C+65+lb%2F176+gsm%2C+cream%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-1
Oh gosh, please use this link instead (if you're in the US!) it is SO much cheaper at Walmart!!!
www.walmart.com/ip/Astrobrights-Colored-Cardstock-8-5-x-11-65-lb-176-Gsm-Cream-50-Sheets/415752785?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=2667&adid=22222222277415752785_117755028669_12420145346&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=501107745824&wl4=pla-306310554666&wl5=1026339&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=415752785&wl13=2667&veh=sem_LIA&gclsrc=aw.ds&&adid=22222222237415752785_117755028669_12420145346&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=501107745824&wl4=pla-306310554666&wl5=1026339&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=415752785&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAmZGrBhAnEiwAo9qHiWotPR-hFFuvsEKdiETdks4FyvGXgS89SomnATQdbaurC8U512CW0BoC9UMQAvD_BwE
Why do a lot of listings not include sample pages so we can see what we are buying??
Sophia thank you SO much for this great question! I just made a quick video to show you how (it's to hard to explain in a text here). Hopefully this will take the mystery out of this for you. Give me about an hour to upload it. SO grateful for you asking this so I can share with you and others. Thanks for watching and hope you have a great day! 💖💖💖
@@snickerdoodlingllcsame for you, I’ll check it out!!
@@snickerdoodlingllcsubscribed! 🎉
If you are judging each other, shame on you! Agree! Oops, oops, you were making me laugh. Color outside the lines? What lines? Lol
Yeah.....WHAT lines??? LOL!! 🤣😂
Thank You Doing This Video,
I Haven't Been Colouring Long, Any Idea Why On Some Of My Pictures, I Can See Tiny White Marks Under My Colouring. I Don't Have Prisma Colours Can Not Afford Them
Take Care.
Hi, Deb! Thanks for this question - I'm guessing that the white marks are the ridges (or texture of the paper) that aren't getting colored. Try using a super sharp pencil an pushing down as you color to flatten that texture of the paper so the pencil color can reach it. And trust me - you don't need fancy pencils to do this - any pencil should be able to. If this doesn't work, please let me know. I'd love to help you conquer this one! Thanks for stopping by my little channel. Please keep me posted, ok? Have a great day! - Kim 💖
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Thank You So Much For Replying.
@@deborahjane68 Deb, you are so welcome. I really want to help you out here, so please don't hesitate to reach out to me! Hope you have a wonderful day/weekend! 💖💖💖
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Hiya. Learning a lot from you. Hope The weather is great for the weekend for you.
@@deborahjane68 Thank you, sweet Deb! We have scattered storms, and I have a little pup that is terrified of them. I'm hoping they just pass through really fast. Hope you have a lovely weekend, my friend! 💖
That's exactly WHY I don't purchase amazon paper coloring books. The precious time I use for coloring I prefer to use the ones I enjoy to color. The point is to enjoy. I'm just not interested to waist my time to low quality paper. I will not enjoy. That's all.
I totally get it and don't disagree with you! And yes - coloring is 100% about relaxing and enjoyment. When we are fighting against that, it completely defeats the purpose! After creating this video, I learned so much from people like you. I most of all learned that not all Amazon paper is created equally. I truly value and appreciate your opinion and am grateful for all the informative comments I've received. Appreciate you watching! Hope you have a great day! 💖💖💖
Have it printed somewhere else and you won’t have to choose Amazon crappy paper
LOL so true, Renee! You could also scan the Amazon paper books and print with nice card stock on your printer. Lots of options for sure. Thanks so much for stopping by my little channel 💖💖💖