Just want to say that your oscilloscope overlays are like a master class in synthesis- thanks for going the extra mile in including them. It helps SO much to see a visual representation of what’s going on under the hood. ❤
I WAS DONE, I WAS ALREADY DONE SETTING UP MY PERFECT SETUP AND YOU POST THIS I hate this strange mix of always being both excited about new products and terrified for my financial future.
@@rorz999 then it's a lesson on perfection. Cannot be attained. Now, being completely serious, I don't really need this but I don't make reasonable decisions 100% of the time.
My brain went "uhhhh where'd the color go?!" 😂😭 Never forget ❤💛💚💜 Edit: Just to be clear: Not hating on the gear itself, I just like bright colors a lot. 🤘😎
Every new synth should come with a bank of playable sounds. The supermarket keyboard bank. The Elektron I sounded great but out of the box there was very little you could jam with without getting some weirdness. I get people don't buy these instruments for that but it's nice to have without having to build them yourself.
Ah man, I've been admiring Elektron's boxes from a far for years, always hesitant as no single one quite satisfied enough to justify the cost and time to onboard to workflow. But this new generation has now pushed me over the edge, got this one on pre-order! Thanks for the in-depth, super useful as usual Mr. pop.
Digitone 1 has become one of my desert island synths. I love it so much, and it's made FM sound design so easy and fun - almost like if a subtractive synth and FM synth had a baby. Some of my biggest requests were an extra LFO and more FX - and they delivered, with so much more including a drum synth too! Now debating whether to replace my DN1 or have both in my setup side-by-side 😈
@@paQ75you can use a battery pack, and people have modded a battery inside theirs before.. either way, one thing power cable and one headphone cable really isn’t a deal breaker
Augh. I recently got Digitakt 2 and it is a mind-bendingly stunning instrument. Turned me back on to samplers after kinda loathing them for a time. But also, I love FM synths, so yeah... ill have to save up for this now. 😅
Now the Syntakt sits in a very weird spot... its relatively new, yet missing functions like the 128 steps, which are unlikely to come as a software update. But its also too new to receive the v2 treatment. I feel like they should have started upgrading the hardware/software with the Syntakt, releasing Digitakt 2 and Digitone 2 after that.
No, sorry I'm completely fookin wrong apologies guys. I was using it yesterday and was reading M.LEN go over 64 when u hit func + page and thought it was steps... My bad 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Can I just say I was literally thinking about getting a Digitone earlier today and hesitating because I was worried a 2 would come out soon, and I just saw this video right now
@@Space_pulse The DT1/2 can have as many (synced) LFOs as you want. Use the DT1/2 DIN24 output to clock your eurorack LFOs. Then convert back to 14bit high-resolution MIDI with a VCMC to the DT1/2.
This is actually a very cool upgrade. This makes the Digitone a legitimate one box option of you wanted to get into Elektron. There's some undeniably great new things but for me, most would be wasted. Far too much to learn in terms of new workflow when really i still need to learn how to actually make music. For now im totally happy with DT2, ST and Dn OG 😊
Elektron is clearly making the choice easy for everyone. If one need one groovebox of a kind it can be taken. I like syntakt , also because I have already samplers and fm synths, but unfortunatelly version 2 of syntakt will not come before years, if ever it will come.
No GAS on this - and my Digitone Keys is my second fave piece of kit... From my side, I think my GAS is partly cured as Ableton has now ticked nearly all the boxes I need in my work (& improved its own workflow a fair amount in recent years). Nothing can beat the nice feel of a physical box, nor the Elektron workflow for quick ideas. But as I'm not seeking to waste money on a daft DAW-less thing, I'm pretty much at the level of complexity I'd like. No need for more. Such a weird feeling guys.
This is going to be so much more useful with my linnstrument than the DN1. Being able to set what tracks work with control all will be a blessing as well. Such a massive upgradr. Have preordered.
Isn't the Note Edit doing the same thing? Since you can add up to 16 notes per steps, it sounds very flexible. I don't have an OG digitone so maybe I'm missing something.
@@droussel7359 It matters how you want to interact with the Digitone. I use chord mode (MI-Marbles -> B-VCMC -> E-Digitone). Looking at the DT2 manual this isn't possible. Just weird!
It's gotta be some part of a planned feature horizon... I.e. they could easily do it now, but want to save it for mk III so it will have that sale point... 🥴
Thanks for the video🎉 I would still suggest the MPC Live 2 as another option. It has my favorite fm synth and is way deeper IMO. I bought it on the used market for $800 and it was the best money spent ever on music gear.
MPC is amazing. I have been having awesome moments with the digitakt 2. They are just so different. I have not tried the MPC 3.0 firmware yet as I’m still having fun with 2.0. I’m lucky enough to have the MPC se x . And the thing I love is the outputs inputs. I have been playing with so many guitar pedal setups. But I digress. For simpler and focused grooved digitskt 2 is great. I may be tempted to get the digitone 2 so it has a friend and very portable jam box but not in any mad rush.
Holy cow!!! That was the simplest, easiest, CLEAREST explanation of the Euclidean sequencer I've EVR SEEN! OMG! Thank you so much. In 2 minutes you cleared up so much confusion I had. THANK YOU, LOOPOP. I've been a YT subscriber for a while...but now I'm going to Patreon and join. THANK YOU!!
Awesome demonstration as always man. I said the same thing on your Digitakt II video, I’ve always liked Elektron but the hardware always seemed like a riot to use. The little changes and updates in workflow etc have clicked with my brain for some reason though and I’m finally onboard hahah! I really liked the Digitakt but I love this. Definitely on the list. Thanks dude.
I’ve been pouring over Reverb and EBay for nearly a year trying to keep myself from buying a used FM synth. Now you force me to buy a brand new unit at a much higher price You are a bad man for making me eat nothing but Ramen for the next year.
The original version of the Digitone will be available fairly cheep on the used market for the next days or weeks, because a lot of Digitone owners will be buying the new one and selling their old one. So maybe go for an old one for half the price of the new one :)
Same cons as in digitakt2: 1. No solo track function (why I must mute all 15 tracks to work with just one? Rytm 2 have this function) 2. No slide trig mode (for smooth filter sweep for example. Rytm 2 have this function too) Hope they will ad this in future updates.
Just recently got a Digitone Keys, cannot do without it as the FATAR keybed is aces, bonus is it has a nice FM synth inside with 8 separate outs. It makes for some nice percussive elements that I could not do without, DTII is a great addition for someone who wants that all in one encompassing groovebox, I am just happy the Keys exists in the format it does, it's an amazing piece of kit. Thx for the upload.
I also have a Digitone keys. I am soooo torn on trading it in for one of these but I just can’t imagine getting rid of it and I doubt they’ll make a v2 keys. It’s such a perfect instrument other than midi arp, retrig, and parameter slides. But man this new one has 3 lfos and that comb filter is just so insane
I also have the Keys. I tried getting rid of it but no one wants to buy it so I'm stuck with it. After being stuck with it, I've incorporated it with my very minimal set up. It has a very good key bed.
Looks like a nice upgrade but I hope it won’t have the same OLED screen hardware issues as lots of Digitakt II users have encountered. Will have to wait and see
Sometimes you hear the people with problems way louder while a happy majority stays silent. My DT2 screen is perfectly clear, and I’m pretty sure the majority is.
Wow! What an upgrade. Never was interested in the DN because it was only 4 tracks so I got a ST but I feel like sometimes the sounds are lacking… 16 tracks of FM! wow wow wow, what an upgrade! might just have to trade in my syntakt for this baby, I feel like I can do similar things the syntakt does with this and then some!
Awesome overview as always Loopop! Thank you for the time analyzing and learning the device for us. It’s a great sounding box. Why the Digitone II gets a master compressor and the Syntakt don’t won’t get in to my head. Really hope they will as this in a future update.
Oh gee. I bought ther DT2 few months back. Now seeing this i realize i miss even more than before to have some serious synth in the Dt2 Basically if the DO2 would have 1-2 stereo sampling tracks it would be a one stop workshop for portable music making.
Such a massive overhaul. The original was cool but always felt like the most limited of their modern boxes due to the limited voices and pretty limited sonic palette compared to something like a monomachine or the syntakt, this now feels like it has as much sonic range as those boxes with the new machines, filters, 16 voices, filters and effects
A limitation of the OG Digitone was that the Arpeggiators were not allowed on the MIDI tracks, only for the internal synth. This was addressed in the forums for many years, but Elektron seemingly wanted that feature only to be in Octatrack. Is it now possible in the D2 ?
@@loopop Thanks for the quick answer. Isn't that unbelievable ? Would anyone buy the OT instead of DT, just b/c it has MIDI arps ? I mean, I would understand if DT hasn't any arp. But it has...and every DT update is awaited eagerly, with "Arp4midi now ?" - but no...sad story, like (the missing) step editor for arp and seq in montage/modx.
I got one. It's amazing, no surprise. But if you just want something for sound design without creating long complex patterns or needing more than the 4 tracks the OG Digitone is enough and it costs half of this on eBay. If you need the tracks or anything else...get it. It's worth it, I haven't had this much fun in a long time.
I was going to get a Digitakt 2, to replace my OG but I'm pretty much sold on this. I think it will work really well alongside my Styntakt and I'll keep the Digitakt OG. I'm more about melodies than beats and have missed polyphony - was amazed by the piano sound you got. I think the machines will take some learning, but that will be a positive thing for me.
Two questions I didn't think I saw addressed - 1. Does the arp do midi now? 2. How many preset banks? Same as og? Not mentioned on Elektron's site Apologies if missed... I have ADD so I do miss stuff
Loving the new drum feature. I’m been seriously considering buying the Modor DR-2 because I love its sound so much but I think this’ll give me the that world + more digitone, and at half the price!
Digitone is one of my all-time favourite synths and this new version looks amazing. Alas, since I am poor, I will take solace in the fact that my now outdated model still has colourful buttons.
Wow. I own a digitakt and really like the Elektron work flow, but am not a huge Fan of the sample based workflow. Thought about getting either digitone or syntakt in the past, but both had (different) limitations like monophony and no arp on the syntakt, also limited melodic possibilities - and only 4 tracks on the digitone, so i didn't get them in the end. Now this is exactly what i was looking for - and even more. So i have to buy this. Only half way though the Review so far and there are many small things that i was not expecting like the Piano Sound, and prepare Mute.
The perform kit function would be incredible on the Syntakt. I've had to develop my workflow around a single pattern for a whole set partly because of the lack of this.
Got my DG1 a few months ago - for around $500 US (I'm in New Zealand). I'm not clever enough to ever hit the ceiling on its possibilities, and actually really like using trigs and parameter locks to load up tracks like submixes (I was used to that workflow from the Model: Cycles)… sometimes simpler is better when it comes to live performance. the Euclidean sequencer and the compressor are cool additions though (as is the kit management), hopefully they could code the euclidean into a DG1 firmware update?
Great overview 👍 Does the arpeggiator have a hold function that can be used per track as a performance tool? i.e. can you let arpeggios run on different tracks while playing other tracks manually or using the sequencer? Also, Digitone 1 could not arpeggiate external Midi - this is a much requested function that was never implemented by Elektron. Is it now possible? Also, can the sequencer trigger arpeggios, i.e. you record chords into the sequencer, and when playing back they trigger the arpeggiator?
Thanks! No hold function for the arpeggiator unfortunately, but you can run a different arp per track and it will "hold" for as long as you hold the chord or set the chord's note length in the sequencer. No arp for external MIDI.
@@loopop Thanks! That's a pitty. On the Digitone Keys there are extra arpeggiator controls, and I could play a chord on one track, hold it, and switch to another track to play a lead sound while the arp on the other track was still running. But at least, as you say, on the Digitone II I can have multiple arpeggios running at the same time on different tracks when using the sequencer to trigger them. That's great news for me.
The synth engine deserves a dedicated synth module/keyboard (remove the sequencer) with a bigger screen, less paging around, more synth engine dedicated control knobs/sliders and maybe a second pair of audio outputs. This could be Elektron's competitor to Mini-freak, Korg Op-six or Hydrasynth desktop/explorer in that case.
Obviously, we all have to buy this. The question is... WHICH BOX IS NEXT? Do we sell our Octatracks now, or will it be the AR or AF that gets the new version next? The only "safe" boxes right now are the Digitakt 2, Analog Heat FX, Digitone 2, and Syntakt. Every other Elektron box is up for debate as to when its replacement will drop. I just had to sell my Digitakt (in mint condition) on Reverb for $480. Heartbreaking, but that's what they're going for now. The real pain is going to come if they sneak up on us with something like an Octatrack 3, and we're all trying to scramble to sell our Octratrack (or AF or AR) in a market flooded with used units. It's difficult for me not to want to peel off my EZBot template sticker now, and put the Octatrack up for sale. I know I'll get $500 less on the used market if a new one drops.
@@BrendonBrooks Better and more reliable OLED screen (or go back to LCD). Better more reliable buttons (old mk1 had much more reliable buttons!!). More processing power.. for instance add a 3rd FX slot.. granular stuff.. the euclidean sequencer etc. etc. Tons of things they could do..
Some people have to save a long time for one of these boxes. Losing a few hundred dollars because you sold it at a bad time isn’t the end of the world. If your money is tight you do not need to upgrade. Sorry if I don’t have that much sympathy for your “dilemma”.
I hope Elektron will allow us to record or lock the standard controllers that u need a keyboard otherwise to use properly. U should be able to record a modwheel or aftertouch control assessment that can be set up in these modules... With the knob in those pages imo.???
The 128 steps in the new machines are already worth my consideration for Elektron. Never being interested in a 64 steps with parameter locks and so on ... , and now waiting the turn of Syntakt (my favorite elektron device) in few years, which I aspect to get 16 tracks as well and samples player as the digitone got also VA synthesis. ( 6 Digital + 6 Analog + 4 Samples tracks would be for me IDEAL )
So many updates that make this a must have for me! However, looks like there is still no randomize on the arp or way to randomize note order in a pattern?
Digitone I had few voices to play with. The DTone II now has my eye. Though I need Elektron to offer this with a built in keyboard just like what DTone1 Keys had.
don't sweat it Digitone 1 is a very powerful machine and already does more than it needs to earn its place in the studio. so unless its your only piece of Gear in your studio, so maybe don't take a hit selling it, unless you actually need the additions Digitone II offers which is also $200-300 more expensive just like Digtakt II was...
It’s basically a DT2 with different machines/engines. Being digital they could probably also implement them into the DT2. But of course they won’t for profit reasons.
Am I just imagining it? Or does it sound quite different than the original? I can't decide if to replace my DN1 with this, so long as the FM algo sounds identical to the og it's an obvious auto buy
Oof, this will cost me. It’s fixed everything I didn’t like about my Digitone (4 tracks and 4 voices being the biggest gripes but I also didn’t like the coloured buttons or screen colour and I’m thrilled about the new engines, extended sequencer etc)
Is there a poly config mode where I can play a chord or arpeggio from an external MIDI controller and have the notes cycle between different sounds on different tracks? I think the Analog 4 does thus, not sure I'd it was ever possible with Digitone 1
Well this is awesome. I now have next to no use for my Digitakt which I use mostly just as a drum machine. Going to replace it and my Digitone with one of these!
Sorry quick question: Does the base width filter on the transient page of the FM Drum machine affect both the noise generator and the transient generator, or just the noise? Thanks!
Imagine buying this as your first piece of kit? If you are watching this, then you probably know Elektron. So, imagine, get home, open up, plug in, WTF???? I love the way that once you get one piece, it translates through (with evolution), to all the rest. I started with a machinedrum, this all makes so much sense to me. 🤔😉
Just want to say that your oscilloscope overlays are like a master class in synthesis- thanks for going the extra mile in including them. It helps SO much to see a visual representation of what’s going on under the hood. ❤
I WAS DONE, I WAS ALREADY DONE SETTING UP MY PERFECT SETUP AND YOU POST THIS
I hate this strange mix of always being both excited about new products and terrified for my financial future.
If you want the latest and greatest then you'll never be done
Same
How was it a perfect setup if it could be improved with a new machine?
@@rorz999💯
@@rorz999 then it's a lesson on perfection. Cannot be attained.
Now, being completely serious, I don't really need this but I don't make reasonable decisions 100% of the time.
My brain went "uhhhh where'd the color go?!" 😂😭 Never forget ❤💛💚💜
Edit: Just to be clear: Not hating on the gear itself, I just like bright colors a lot. 🤘😎
Lol, but at least it doesn't stick-out from the Digitakt anymore! 👍
My first thoughts too mate but I guess it's a small price to pay for an evolved Digitone eh.
Exactly what I think. The whole sharm went away
Same. I love the colored buttons on the original DT!
🤙🫣🫡
i’ve been watching elektron tube for more than an hour now and i’m ok with that
That piano was a surprise preset for me.
Every new synth should come with a bank of playable sounds. The supermarket keyboard bank. The Elektron I sounded great but out of the box there was very little you could jam with without getting some weirdness. I get people don't buy these instruments for that but it's nice to have without having to build them yourself.
Ah man, I've been admiring Elektron's boxes from a far for years, always hesitant as no single one quite satisfied enough to justify the cost and time to onboard to workflow. But this new generation has now pushed me over the edge, got this one on pre-order! Thanks for the in-depth, super useful as usual Mr. pop.
Holy shytt, an almost DigidrumMachinetone Mk3. Im so stoked for this one.
Digitone 1 has become one of my desert island synths. I love it so much, and it's made FM sound design so easy and fun - almost like if a subtractive synth and FM synth had a baby. Some of my biggest requests were an extra LFO and more FX - and they delivered, with so much more including a drum synth too! Now debating whether to replace my DN1 or have both in my setup side-by-side 😈
Sequence the DN1 with the new sequencer from the DN2 :)
I agree, Yamaha could have been making fm as cool as this when VA's where king in the 90's etc.
ultimate groove box. i'm 100% in on this one.
No internal battery, no fun ̶o̶n̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶c̶h̶ everywhere :)
@@paQ75Come on now. You don’t need a battery to use this in your home on a couch. The power cable should reach an outlet just fine lol.
@@paQ75you can use a battery pack, and people have modded a battery inside theirs before.. either way, one thing power cable and one headphone cable really isn’t a deal breaker
@@paQ75 yeah a minor pain, but external battery packs power non analogue gear just fine. And I can replace them easily when the battery dies.
@@paQ75A lot of people say this but I don't get it. I just have an extension lead / plugboard that I can reach from my couch.
I saw the thumbnail like "please, don't be amazing. Please don't be amazing..." Shit! It is amazing 😢
IKR
Augh. I recently got Digitakt 2 and it is a mind-bendingly stunning instrument. Turned me back on to samplers after kinda loathing them for a time. But also, I love FM synths, so yeah... ill have to save up for this now. 😅
Now the Syntakt sits in a very weird spot... its relatively new, yet missing functions like the 128 steps, which are unlikely to come as a software update. But its also too new to receive the v2 treatment. I feel like they should have started upgrading the hardware/software with the Syntakt, releasing Digitakt 2 and Digitone 2 after that.
@@DuckTreeGaming128 steps?
No, sorry I'm completely fookin wrong apologies guys.
I was using it yesterday and was reading M.LEN go over 64 when u hit func + page and thought it was steps... My bad 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@DuckTreeGaming 128 steps ? when ? how ? you sure ?
I'm not sure it is important for Syntakt. I would love to see Ctrl All configurability and more digital machines
@@pablospace choke groups?
Can I just say I was literally thinking about getting a Digitone earlier today and hesitating because I was worried a 2 would come out soon, and I just saw this video right now
heres hoping the 4-track version goes down to a 1/4th of the price of the new 16 😅
It's a sign. Buy the digitone 2
Same (:
Same
I went onto Sweetwater this morning to add a Digitone to my wishlist and it said they didn’t have that product anymore. Now I see why 😂
OK Loopop is up, so it's a real thing now. Great overview as always - thanks!
Looks like I can easily master this machine in 20 years, still fighting Octatrack after 10 years.
Hahahahahaha...... yeah, I know of guys still using the Octatrack and putting out good stuff......
Time to get a Digitone 1 🎉
Sell mine 😂
Digitone 1 is awesome
I love my v1 and was pretty content with it as is- I truly love it. But now I have fomo for the v2! lol. 3rd LFO is what gets me! Comb filter, too.
@@Space_pulse The DT1/2 can have as many (synced) LFOs as you want. Use the DT1/2 DIN24 output to clock your eurorack LFOs. Then convert back to 14bit high-resolution MIDI with a VCMC to the DT1/2.
@@stashusclay like the yellow OLED screen better than the new white screen
Wow, you were fast getting this one out, amazing as always!
Thanks! They sent it to me a few weeks ago, so I did have a head start :)
This is actually a very cool upgrade. This makes the Digitone a legitimate one box option of you wanted to get into Elektron. There's some undeniably great new things but for me, most would be wasted. Far too much to learn in terms of new workflow when really i still need to learn how to actually make music. For now im totally happy with DT2, ST and Dn OG 😊
Elektron is clearly making the choice easy for everyone. If one need one groovebox of a kind it can be taken. I like syntakt , also because I have already samplers and fm synths, but unfortunatelly version 2 of syntakt will not come before years, if ever it will come.
@@effebidi9677 Really? I'd figure Syntakt 2 would be here within months based on Digitone 2 & Digitakt 2.
Oh man, I was almost set on getting a Syntakt. Now I'll have to ponder a bit longer.
Syntakt is so good
No GAS on this - and my Digitone Keys is my second fave piece of kit...
From my side, I think my GAS is partly cured as Ableton has now ticked nearly all the boxes I need in my work (& improved its own workflow a fair amount in recent years). Nothing can beat the nice feel of a physical box, nor the Elektron workflow for quick ideas. But as I'm not seeking to waste money on a daft DAW-less thing, I'm pretty much at the level of complexity I'd like. No need for more.
Such a weird feeling guys.
Elektron just made a Trance/Goa grove box 🤯
This is going to be so much more useful with my linnstrument than the DN1. Being able to set what tracks work with control all will be a blessing as well. Such a massive upgradr. Have preordered.
It is just weird that they don't have chord mode with that many voices. Until then I'll keep my OG.
Isn't the Note Edit doing the same thing? Since you can add up to 16 notes per steps, it sounds very flexible. I don't have an OG digitone so maybe I'm missing something.
@@droussel7359 It matters how you want to interact with the Digitone. I use chord mode (MI-Marbles -> B-VCMC -> E-Digitone). Looking at the DT2 manual this isn't possible. Just weird!
@@droussel7359 Correct! Note Edit in the manual 10.3.1
elektron.se/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Digitone-2-User-Manual_ENG_OS1.00A_241024.pdf
It's gotta be some part of a planned feature horizon... I.e. they could easily do it now, but want to save it for mk III so it will have that sale point... 🥴
That poster is done by one of my favorite artists at the moment and makes me want the digitone 2 that much more
Thanks for the video🎉 I would still suggest the MPC Live 2 as another option. It has my favorite fm synth and is way deeper IMO. I bought it on the used market for $800 and it was the best money spent ever on music gear.
MPC is amazing. I have been having awesome moments with the digitakt 2. They are just so different. I have not tried the MPC 3.0 firmware yet as I’m still having fun with 2.0. I’m lucky enough to have the MPC se x . And the thing I love is the outputs inputs. I have been playing with so many guitar pedal setups. But I digress. For simpler and focused grooved digitskt 2 is great. I may be tempted to get the digitone 2 so it has a friend and very portable jam box but not in any mad rush.
That piano sounded seriously impressively piano-like compared to any piano preset I’ve seen on the digitone 1
The UI/UX work they've done on this machine is impressive.
Holy cow!!! That was the simplest, easiest, CLEAREST explanation of the Euclidean sequencer I've EVR SEEN! OMG! Thank you so much. In 2 minutes you cleared up so much confusion I had. THANK YOU, LOOPOP. I've been a YT subscriber for a while...but now I'm going to Patreon and join. THANK YOU!!
Awesome demonstration as always man. I said the same thing on your Digitakt II video, I’ve always liked Elektron but the hardware always seemed like a riot to use. The little changes and updates in workflow etc have clicked with my brain for some reason though and I’m finally onboard hahah! I really liked the Digitakt but I love this. Definitely on the list. Thanks dude.
I’ve been pouring over Reverb and EBay for nearly a year trying to keep myself from buying a used FM synth. Now you force me to buy a brand new unit at a much higher price You are a bad man for making me eat nothing but Ramen for the next year.
The original version of the Digitone will be available fairly cheep on the used market for the next days or weeks, because a lot of Digitone owners will be buying the new one and selling their old one. So maybe go for an old one for half the price of the new one :)
sell my syntakt
I suggest the Momosan Ichiban chicken ramen. The sesame oil makes it taste a little more like restaurant noodles.
Sorry, If you are at ramen level, you can/should not afford this luxury device..
Hahaha! Literally bought a used Digitone v1 two hours before this was announced. The Gear Wheel keeps turning and crushing us all!!
Me aswell a week ago
Just sold mine. But had same fuckup with Analog Heat. Can't win every time 😢
I had the same exp with my digitakt ;)
And just like that, here's loopop with the review! Thank you universe!
I'm going to upgrade. Not because of the increased polyphony and tracks. Because I hate the yellow screen on the Digitone I.
Same cons as in digitakt2:
1. No solo track function (why I must mute all 15 tracks to work with just one? Rytm 2 have this function)
2. No slide trig mode (for smooth filter sweep for example. Rytm 2 have this function too)
Hope they will ad this in future updates.
Agreed.
Thank you for your videos! You know what you can expect, and you can explain in a way thats understandable. Seriously, no wasted minute ever here.
Just recently got a Digitone Keys, cannot do without it as the FATAR keybed is aces, bonus is it has a nice FM synth inside with 8 separate outs.
It makes for some nice percussive elements that I could not do without, DTII is a great addition for someone who wants that all in one encompassing groovebox, I am just happy the Keys exists in the format it does, it's an amazing piece of kit.
Thx for the upload.
I also have a Digitone keys. I am soooo torn on trading it in for one of these but I just can’t imagine getting rid of it and I doubt they’ll make a v2 keys. It’s such a perfect instrument other than midi arp, retrig, and parameter slides. But man this new one has 3 lfos and that comb filter is just so insane
I also have the Keys. I tried getting rid of it but no one wants to buy it so I'm stuck with it.
After being stuck with it, I've incorporated it with my very minimal set up.
It has a very good key bed.
@@tubeMonger you wont need to get rid of it, it's a keeper.
I have the OG Digitone and the keys. So probably I'll keep the keys but trade the Digitone I for the II.
@@valuemastery I am going to saw off my Digitone from my Keys and sell that then glue a Digitone II to it fr...
Looks like a nice upgrade but I hope it won’t have the same OLED screen hardware issues as lots of Digitakt II users have encountered. Will have to wait and see
Hadn't heard about this, so I looked it up. Sounds like it's just how these screens work, so I assume it will be on this one too.
Yeeehh unfortunately my DT2 screen ended up getting glitchy. They sorted it out quickly and returned it to me and no issues since.
Sometimes you hear the people with problems way louder while a happy majority stays silent. My DT2 screen is perfectly clear, and I’m pretty sure the majority is.
Wow! What an upgrade. Never was interested in the DN because it was only 4 tracks so I got a ST but I feel like sometimes the sounds are lacking…
16 tracks of FM! wow wow wow, what an upgrade! might just have to trade in my syntakt for this baby, I feel like I can do similar things the syntakt does with this and then some!
Awesome overview as always Loopop! Thank you for the time analyzing and learning the device for us. It’s a great sounding box.
Why the Digitone II gets a master compressor and the Syntakt don’t won’t get in to my head. Really hope they will as this in a future update.
First thought when I saw the thumbnail of the video: “Oh wow, Loopop is late to the party with his Digitakt review” 😅😅😅
Same thought! 😂
Better late than never!
😂😂😂
same lol
I’m feeling that aqua black color scheme
Track Layering was in the OG, it was under Unison...it does fun things to tracks with Arps on them!
My favourite machine ever just got even better!
Looks like you had a lot of fun digging into the instrument. Great range of sonic possibilities.
no candy buttons :(
Oh gee.
I bought ther DT2 few months back. Now seeing this i realize i miss even more than before to have some serious synth in the Dt2
Basically if the DO2 would have 1-2 stereo sampling tracks it would be a one stop workshop for portable music making.
Wow this is intense.
D2 + A4 + OTMK2 seems to be the holy grail option. Such a versatile rig
Elektron, quit with the gas induction and give us an A4 update! OK, obviously, I want this too!
I agree. Wayyy overdue. They only updated the firmware over a week ago because of Overbridge. Whoopee doo!!
Such a massive overhaul. The original was cool but always felt like the most limited of their modern boxes due to the limited voices and pretty limited sonic palette compared to something like a monomachine or the syntakt, this now feels like it has as much sonic range as those boxes with the new machines, filters, 16 voices, filters and effects
Dude...that is a hell of a machine! Ordered!
as DT2 owner i must admit that so much possibilities/tracks requre a lot of brain work to control everything))anyway..great update
that's good that I've sold my Digitone before the announcement :)
Idk if anyine answered this ine already but track layering is available on the OG. Its configured through the unison menu.
Good lord those factory patterns sound fantastic.
Yeah, way better than any of their other devices. I wonder who they got to do them.
What, in your expert opinion, would be the best keyboard controller to pair with this?
Why is an increment graphic used to select from a bunch of different transients in perc mode? 🤨
Wow. Some of the drums really sound like samples. That piano is wild. Had to order.
Whew thank goodness, couldn’t find your video at first lol. God I’m excited.
A limitation of the OG Digitone was that the Arpeggiators were not allowed on the MIDI tracks, only for the internal synth. This was addressed in the forums for many years, but Elektron seemingly wanted that feature only to be in Octatrack. Is it now possible in the D2 ?
no unfortunately
@@loopop Thanks for the quick answer. Isn't that unbelievable ? Would anyone buy the OT instead of DT, just b/c it has MIDI arps ? I mean, I would understand if DT hasn't any arp. But it has...and every DT update is awaited eagerly, with "Arp4midi now ?" - but no...sad story, like (the missing) step editor for arp and seq in montage/modx.
bliss is being content with what you have. wonderful upgrade btw...wonder if they'll do a keys version
Perform Kit mode was the only thing the elektron needed and I was the one thing that alway made me sell elektrons, but this seems like a keeper.
I got one. It's amazing, no surprise. But if you just want something for sound design without creating long complex patterns or needing more than the 4 tracks the OG Digitone is enough and it costs half of this on eBay. If you need the tracks or anything else...get it. It's worth it, I haven't had this much fun in a long time.
I was going to get a Digitakt 2, to replace my OG but I'm pretty much sold on this. I think it will work really well alongside my Styntakt and I'll keep the Digitakt OG. I'm more about melodies than beats and have missed polyphony - was amazed by the piano sound you got. I think the machines will take some learning, but that will be a positive thing for me.
I think Elektron’s digital filters sound better than their analog ones. This seems like the ultimate groovebox to me. Can’t wait to get one!
As always, you are the man with the reviews
Very good performance, loving the B77 too, this video made me buy a Digitone 2.
That piano sounds really good
for real. sounds like a sample, amazing
Two questions I didn't think I saw addressed -
1. Does the arp do midi now?
2. How many preset banks? Same as og? Not mentioned on Elektron's site
Apologies if missed... I have ADD so I do miss stuff
1. Indeed I didn't mention that - no the arp doesn't send MIDI
2. At least I did mention that one :) Same as OG
@@loopop cool.thanks Ziv.
I wonder what the limitation is. It's something we all want is it not re arp!
I was like what could they improve, 30 seconds in I felt stupid for even asking.
Loving the new drum feature. I’m been seriously considering buying the Modor DR-2 because I love its sound so much but I think this’ll give me the that world + more digitone, and at half the price!
…and half the size!
Digitone is one of my all-time favourite synths and this new version looks amazing. Alas, since I am poor, I will take solace in the fact that my now outdated model still has colourful buttons.
A lot of the percussive sounds coming from this sound like the korg volca drum. I've always wanted an adult sized one of those!
Wow. I own a digitakt and really like the Elektron work flow, but am not a huge Fan of the sample based workflow. Thought about getting either digitone or syntakt in the past, but both had (different) limitations like monophony and no arp on the syntakt, also limited melodic possibilities - and only 4 tracks on the digitone, so i didn't get them in the end.
Now this is exactly what i was looking for - and even more. So i have to buy this. Only half way though the Review so far and there are many small things that i was not expecting like the Piano Sound, and prepare Mute.
The perform kit function would be incredible on the Syntakt. I've had to develop my workflow around a single pattern for a whole set partly because of the lack of this.
Got my DG1 a few months ago - for around $500 US (I'm in New Zealand). I'm not clever enough to ever hit the ceiling on its possibilities, and actually really like using trigs and parameter locks to load up tracks like submixes (I was used to that workflow from the Model: Cycles)… sometimes simpler is better when it comes to live performance. the Euclidean sequencer and the compressor are cool additions though (as is the kit management), hopefully they could code the euclidean into a DG1 firmware update?
47:04 Sounds straight out of a Depeche Mode album
Great overview 👍
Does the arpeggiator have a hold function that can be used per track as a performance tool? i.e. can you let arpeggios run on different tracks while playing other tracks manually or using the sequencer?
Also, Digitone 1 could not arpeggiate external Midi - this is a much requested function that was never implemented by Elektron. Is it now possible?
Also, can the sequencer trigger arpeggios, i.e. you record chords into the sequencer, and when playing back they trigger the arpeggiator?
Thanks!
No hold function for the arpeggiator unfortunately, but you can run a different arp per track and it will "hold" for as long as you hold the chord or set the chord's note length in the sequencer. No arp for external MIDI.
@@loopop Thanks! That's a pitty. On the Digitone Keys there are extra arpeggiator controls, and I could play a chord on one track, hold it, and switch to another track to play a lead sound while the arp on the other track was still running.
But at least, as you say, on the Digitone II I can have multiple arpeggios running at the same time on different tracks when using the sequencer to trigger them. That's great news for me.
Was waiting for Loopop!!
The synth engine deserves a dedicated synth module/keyboard (remove the sequencer) with a bigger screen, less paging around, more synth engine dedicated control knobs/sliders and maybe a second pair of audio outputs. This could be Elektron's competitor to Mini-freak, Korg Op-six or Hydrasynth desktop/explorer in that case.
Obviously, we all have to buy this. The question is... WHICH BOX IS NEXT? Do we sell our Octatracks now, or will it be the AR or AF that gets the new version next? The only "safe" boxes right now are the Digitakt 2, Analog Heat FX, Digitone 2, and Syntakt. Every other Elektron box is up for debate as to when its replacement will drop. I just had to sell my Digitakt (in mint condition) on Reverb for $480. Heartbreaking, but that's what they're going for now. The real pain is going to come if they sneak up on us with something like an Octatrack 3, and we're all trying to scramble to sell our Octratrack (or AF or AR) in a market flooded with used units. It's difficult for me not to want to peel off my EZBot template sticker now, and put the Octatrack up for sale. I know I'll get $500 less on the used market if a new one drops.
Will be interesting to see the prices of “old” elektron gear in 15-20 years
This isn't really a healthy way to think about tools that all make music. You don't necessarily need to upgrade
The OT Mk2 is perfect (at least to me). I'm not sure how much more you can change on that box without making it something completely different.
@@BrendonBrooks Better and more reliable OLED screen (or go back to LCD). Better more reliable buttons (old mk1 had much more reliable buttons!!). More processing power.. for instance add a 3rd FX slot.. granular stuff.. the euclidean sequencer etc. etc. Tons of things they could do..
Some people have to save a long time for one of these boxes. Losing a few hundred dollars because you sold it at a bad time isn’t the end of the world. If your money is tight you do not need to upgrade. Sorry if I don’t have that much sympathy for your “dilemma”.
Thank youuuu for another wonderful vid. I hope they add parameter slide
I hope Elektron will allow us to record or lock the standard controllers that u need a keyboard otherwise to use properly. U should be able to record a modwheel or aftertouch control assessment that can be set up in these modules... With the knob in those pages imo.???
I love my digitone. Definitely upgrading
The 128 steps in the new machines are already worth my consideration for Elektron. Never being interested in a 64 steps with parameter locks and so on ... , and now waiting the turn of Syntakt (my favorite elektron device) in few years, which I aspect to get 16 tracks as well and samples player as the digitone got also VA synthesis. ( 6 Digital + 6 Analog + 4 Samples tracks would be for me IDEAL )
So many updates that make this a must have for me! However, looks like there is still no randomize on the arp or way to randomize note order in a pattern?
Time to buy an used digitone i :)
Cool patch showcasing the mute feature performance upgrades
Those new fm engines are going to be a lot of fun to play with drum pads.
Is the MIDI sequencing the same in Digitakt 2 as it is in Digitone 2?
Digitone I had few voices to play with. The DTone II now has my eye.
Though I need Elektron to offer this with a built in keyboard just like what DTone1 Keys had.
Oh man, i just bought a digitone 1
and it will serve you well!
I did too, but I figure by the time I have it all figured out (years, probably), the DT2 will be more affordable...
It may not be as powerful, but tbh you will always have the better looking version. The green OLED is just so classic.
don't sweat it Digitone 1 is a very powerful machine and already does more than it needs to earn its place in the studio. so unless its your only piece of Gear in your studio, so maybe don't take a hit selling it, unless you actually need the additions Digitone II offers which is also $200-300 more expensive just like Digtakt II was...
It’s basically a DT2 with different machines/engines. Being digital they could probably also implement them into the DT2. But of course they won’t for profit reasons.
That S&H noise of Wavetone has C64 written all over it. Noice! 😀
Yeah. The pitched noise sounds like some old chip noise too. POKEY maybe?
Am I just imagining it? Or does it sound quite different than the original? I can't decide if to replace my DN1 with this, so long as the FM algo sounds identical to the og it's an obvious auto buy
Oof, this will cost me. It’s fixed everything I didn’t like about my Digitone (4 tracks and 4 voices being the biggest gripes but I also didn’t like the coloured buttons or screen colour and I’m thrilled about the new engines, extended sequencer etc)
Digitakt Compressor and Retrig in it too I believe
Is there a poly config mode where I can play a chord or arpeggio from an external MIDI controller and have the notes cycle between different sounds on different tracks? I think the Analog 4 does thus, not sure I'd it was ever possible with Digitone 1
Well this is awesome. I now have next to no use for my Digitakt which I use mostly just as a drum machine. Going to replace it and my Digitone with one of these!
Sorry quick question: Does the base width filter on the transient page of the FM Drum machine affect both the noise generator and the transient generator, or just the noise? Thanks!
Both!
@loopop too easy ty king!
33:25 bit crushing animation spot on
The yellow screen is a big part of DN1's charm to me. Sad it's just boring white now 🙁
Ok. This thing needs smooth motion sequencing. Being able to have an ASR envelope in the LFO section would be pretty dope too. I want this thing.
Imagine buying this as your first piece of kit? If you are watching this, then you probably know Elektron. So, imagine, get home, open up, plug in, WTF???? I love the way that once you get one piece, it translates through (with evolution), to all the rest. I started with a machinedrum, this all makes so much sense to me. 🤔😉