How to actually use FM synthesis - A practical guide

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  • @cooksoni.a
    @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    3:27 I didn't even notice that i was wrong about this algorithm saying that there was no FM going on at the 2 carriers on the sides, even though I proceeded to immediately use it for the formant example lol 😂 but that idea still holds. If there is an algorithm with carriers that have no modulator, you'll have to think about what you would use the carriers for when there's no modulation happening.

  • @buttermilkjudas
    @buttermilkjudas หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    beyond how excellent this tutorial has been for me so far, you seem like a really kind person. just something about your energy

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thats so sweet lol, thank you ❤

  • @janbert4927
    @janbert4927 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    German here. It just blew my mind! All these years, I thought it was actually written as 'substractive' instead of 'subtractive.' 😄 I can't even explain why that is. Great video btw. Thank you

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@janbert4927 haha thats awesome. I figured the german word for it might be closer to “substractive,” is that the case?

    • @janbert4927
      @janbert4927 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@cooksoni.a That was my first guess as well, but its actually not much different: subtrahieren or Subtraktion. No "s" in there, very odd 😄. Well, I learned something today, besides FM synthesis ;)

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@janbert4927 Very interesting lol 😂 I wonder how that got started

    • @QuentinLamerand
      @QuentinLamerand 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm french and I realized I did the same error :D. But it actually makes sense as the french word is 'soustractive'.

    • @QuentinLamerand
      @QuentinLamerand 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Or maybe we confuse it with "subscription"

  • @DaKingof
    @DaKingof 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is the stuff Bitwig is so good at. Thanks for inspiring me to sound design some new stuff :D

    • @GabrielPerboni
      @GabrielPerboni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yay for Bitwig

    • @quantum_ocean
      @quantum_ocean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      was going to say: Bitwig would be an awesome tool to demonstrate these concepts.

  • @NoPhonesOnTheFloor
    @NoPhonesOnTheFloor 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank You for the Video, not even halfway through but already seeing that this is great content.

  • @bart.grantham
    @bart.grantham หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm only a third in, but so far this is an outstanding down-to-earth guide to FM. Kudos on making "the second video you should watch about FM." I appreciate the balance you've set between skipping the basics and not getting bogged down in the details, accessible but practical. Focusing on two-op to start and relating the behavior to better-known analog waveforms is a great way of building intuition. Thank you!

  • @krilin84
    @krilin84 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watched the whole thing. Very educative. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this!!

  • @RobbekenSynthMusic
    @RobbekenSynthMusic 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was excellent. I really like FM and every couple of months I go through another primer again. This was refreshing and a very nice way to explain these concepts in a new light.
    Thank you!

  • @medullaoblongata2755
    @medullaoblongata2755 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really like the way you break down FM synthesis. You should talk about FM8 more, I think it is has a lot of hidden potential that people haven't really tapped into yet.

  • @aarons3166
    @aarons3166 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this video! As a new owner of a DigiTone this is incredibly useful, and as a technically oriented person this satisfied my need to understand the behind the scenes as well as get a practical methodology.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm the same way, I'm in the process of making another video and just yesterday I said that I don't feel satisfied until I get to the bottom of how things work lol. Some people say you don't need to know the ins and outs to use FM, but for me at least, understanding how stuff works on a more fundamental level makes it way easier to utilize. I'm glad you found it useful!

  • @cwehden
    @cwehden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Many thanks, very helpful for Digitone users.

  • @christiancasey4080
    @christiancasey4080 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the format of this. It's not easy to teach intuition, but you've done a great job. Subscribed :-)

  • @kevinguaman525
    @kevinguaman525 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Buy Opsix native and this video is really good for learn the basics of every fm synth and explore different possibilities, really nice 👍

  • @jbowmanmusic
    @jbowmanmusic 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such a great video, really helpful.

  • @debu206
    @debu206 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Easy to follow and practical, thanks !
    I finally understand what each algorithm goes and how to use them !

  • @oledokka
    @oledokka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your channel should grow fast! Excellent stuff.

  • @K0r0n1s
    @K0r0n1s หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this intermediate overview!
    I really needed a guide on how to utilize the algorithms more deliberately than randomly.
    Cheers, dude 🎉

  • @Pixe1head
    @Pixe1head 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dude! You are godsent!!! You are absolutely right that there almost no comprehensive content on deeper fm synthesis techniques and theory, and the content I managed to find on the topic is made by dinosaurs of synth world, who still put all the quirky and cheesy sound design solutions of 70-80s on pedestal.. hardly anyone shows how to use fm in modern production comprehensively, pls give us more!! Instant sub!😊
    Ps and I’m a Digitone owner, and soo many things in it’s design make more sense after watching your vid 😉

  • @rantonerik
    @rantonerik 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yes please to a video on frequency vs phase modulation!

  • @dinogoldie9716
    @dinogoldie9716 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:07 - If you want to achieve a bell sound (with 2op FM), not only does the modulator need to be higher than the carrier but, ideally, the modulator needs to be set at a non-whole number. For instance, If your carrier operator is set at 2 (or 200), the modulator operator needs to be set at 3.5 (or 350) or whatever. If your carrier is set at 1 or 100, set the modulator to 5.1 or 510 (or however your synth describes the setting).

  • @stephenhowe
    @stephenhowe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video - from a big 2-op FM fan :) subscribed

  • @FigittyFau
    @FigittyFau 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude, thank you! Just what I needed to still chern some love out of my digitone! Very cool content! Keep it up!

  • @rodrigolabra6962
    @rodrigolabra6962 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really well explained, loved it !!

  • @djrei
    @djrei 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic video! Thank you!!!

  • @Degree3Audio
    @Degree3Audio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Extremely helpful video bud. Learning fm and particularly operator, has been a bit of a final frontier for me and you nailed it, there aren't many example and use case and explanation encompassing videos. This was excellent. Instant sub :)

  • @morkmon
    @morkmon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video, learned a lot!

  • @techmofey
    @techmofey หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quite educative! ❤ Loved the pace

  • @BenjaminBeak
    @BenjaminBeak หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phenomenal explanation brotha

  • @tracyharms3548
    @tracyharms3548 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m going to have to watch this again when I’m ready for the difficulties that caught me by surprise the first time. I’m currently in the modular hardware world so some of your major concepts, such as ratios, aren’t facilitated by the equipment I have on hand. Or something.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tracyharms3548 so ratios are just multiples of a given frequency. For instance, 220hz is an A note. If you multiply that by two, it gives you 440hz. By 3 its 660, 4x is 880, etc. This idea of multiplying a given frequency by an integer reflects whats known as the harmonic series, and thats using those ratios in FM gives you a harmonic sound. Look up a video on the harmonic series on youtube and it might give you a better idea, its really interesting. But put simply, the concept of the ratio of one operator to the other is just what pitch each of the operators are at

    • @tracyharms3548
      @tracyharms3548 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cooksoni.a ”When your modulator is an integer multiple of the fundamental frequency then all of your sidebands will be in the harmonic series.” Does ‘fundamental frequency’ here mean carrier frequency?

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ it technically means the midi note that youre playing it at, because you can also change the carrier’s frequency by adjusting its ratio. But in most cases youll be using a carrier with a ratio of 1, so in that case yes. Because 1 times n frequency equals n, meaning that its the fundamental freq that is equivalent to whatever note youre playing it at

    • @tracyharms3548
      @tracyharms3548 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ I imagined ‘ratio’ means the ratio of the frequencies of the two operators. If the carrier can meaningfully have a ratio that’s independent of the modulator’s frequency, I am lost.

  • @studiobischof
    @studiobischof 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great FM teaching!
    Thanks from Berlin 👋🏻

  • @artificium_
    @artificium_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    just stumbled upon a model:cycles for cheap and its cool to see it here, my purchase feels validated haha :) great video btw! takes me back to messing with the ratios on fm8 a decade ago heh

  • @stephenhowe
    @stephenhowe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:00 On using saw waves, a lot of psytrance style patches e.g. Forest Leads use saw waves with 0.5 or 0.25 ratio to the carrier (sometimes both carrier and modulator are saws). This adds a "croak" to low notes which sounds pretty cool when put through a filter. @olliepsy has some good examples

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah I spoke a bit brashly when I said that lol, I'm pretty particular about what I think sounds good, but there are definitely cases where using saws can be nice. I think the important thing is that the rising edge of the saw isn't completely vertical, and that's a feature of saws with very limited harmonics. it creates a little bunching up in the first part of the waveform which can sound really cool

  • @dbl1db
    @dbl1db 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent work. Thanks for the effort you put into it. 🙂

  • @postelektrik
    @postelektrik หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, great video!

  • @CovetFlux
    @CovetFlux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting stuff. Informative as hell. I'm still trying to grasp FM in SurgeXT (love the synth, but as a moron, it's a lot to learn). Keep up the good work man.

  • @fcfc
    @fcfc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool, a video on FM synthesis !

  • @sashajedinac9391
    @sashajedinac9391 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for making this.

  • @rflyn5864
    @rflyn5864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:04 - I think I remember watching an old SeamlessR video on TH-cam where he briefly mentioned and demonstrated some details having to do with Phase vs Frequency modulation and saw waves - and it sounded interesting but I wasn't really grasping it right then and there. Would definitely be interested in you doing a video about that topic, especially with how helpful this video has been.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting, I'll see if i can find that. Yeah I spoke a little brashly when I said that lol, because in most cases if there's a saw wave available in an FM synth, then the developers took the difference into consideration. But there are some synths that have FM capabilities that don't use a saw wave tailored for FM. That little tangent was mainly directed at people who want to try making an FM synth themselves. And I've seen people demonstrate stuff like using a real saw wave in video explanations about FM, along with other bits of information that isn't relevant to phase modulation, so yes FM vs PM video is forthcoming!

    • @ennayanne
      @ennayanne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also have memories of watching and not understanding him talk about that lol

  • @the_glove
    @the_glove หลายเดือนก่อน

    About damn time !

  • @yassokiiba
    @yassokiiba หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice explanation!

  • @thevibor
    @thevibor 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! Could you please explain a little better what exactly does negative feedback and negative amplitude mean? Thanks

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@thevibor thanks! So the amplitude of a signal is controlled by multiplying it by a number. When you multiply it by a negative number, it just inverts the signal. So it’s basically a phase inverted version of the signal. In normal FM synths, you can only control the amplitude of the modulation signal my multiplying it by a positive number. But of course you can do whatever you want when youre programming the algorithm on your own. And feedback is the same thing, you just feedback a negative version of the signal.

    • @thevibor
      @thevibor 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @cooksoni.a ok, so it's just inverting the polarity of the signal basically. Thanks for clarifying!

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @thevibor yes, inverting it and controlling the volume basically

  • @gregorio_luque
    @gregorio_luque หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really interesting perspective for FM! Different to other videos in YT. As I have a Volca FM that has a classic DX7 layout.. I've found in other videos that "Ratio" shows up in Relative terms, as it is the relation Between the Coarse Level (octave) between two Operators, so you would have one in 0 in relation to -1, etc. And Output Level would be "Amount". Is that correct?? In any case it's evident that an integrated oscilloscope on FM machines would have been a good way to understand more this type of synthesis... That more often has become commonly used in a "preset based" workflow. (Yes I edited this because I found this explanation heh! but any comments on this would be appreciated!)

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Yeah so I've never used a DX7, but I think it allows you to set the modulator to be either a ratio or fixed frequency, and I think the ratio setting is just "frequency" and you choose what the ratio is by setting the coarse tuning. And yes, level would be the modulation amplitude/amount. All that is is the volume of the modulating signal, with more volume generating more harmonics. The same should be true on the VolcaFM, coarse tuning for the ratio and level for the mod amplitude.

  • @antoineguilbeault8025
    @antoineguilbeault8025 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice video. One thing you did not cover in this video thaty I feel is important when programming FM patches is *Velocity to level* for modulators. This makes the patch more playable and can imitate behaviour of real life physics espacially when programming Metalic sonds, bells, percussion etc.

  • @dinogoldie9716
    @dinogoldie9716 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    33:51 An all-carrier algorithm is good for organ sounds.

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:1 sounds and looks suspiciously like wave folding. This is further support for thinking fm is more like "multiplicative synthesis", rather than additive or subtractive.
    Definitions of domains seem fuzzy in my mind. Time vs frequency? Frequency can't exist without time, right?

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I've noticed that too, and actually something very strange is that setting the carrier to a ratio of 0 and then increasing modulation actually just gives you straight up wavefolding. You can't usually do that in fm synths, but you can in Glänta. I'm still trying to work out why that happens lol.
      As for the time vs freq domain, they're just the two different starting points for synth algorithms. When you start with an oscillating waveform and alter its phase, that generates harmonics. But when you start with the harmonics themselves and move them around and change their amplitudes, then the culmination of those harmonics are what generate the waveform. In reality both the frequency and time domain are two dimensions mathematically representing the exact same thing (sound), but when you're making a synth algorithm you choose which dimension you're going to work in. Working in the frequency domain is by definition additive synthesis, and modal synthesis (often used in physical modeling) is probably the most common implementation of that.

  • @dogclown33
    @dogclown33 หลายเดือนก่อน

    instantly subbed

  • @tracyharms3548
    @tracyharms3548 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I correct in guessing the presumption is that carrier and modulator will have their base frequencies changed in parallel so the ratio between their frequencies remains constant? (E.g. carrier frequency changed for a melodic sequence, modulator frequency changing in parallel to maintain the selected ratio.)

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tracyharms3548 yes thats right. And about your other comment, it’s not a ratio between the two operators, its a ratio to the midi note. So if you tell it to play an A, that corresponds to 220hz for instance. So the ratios of the operators are ratios to that frequency, 220hz. A ratio of 1 is 220hz, 2 is 440hz, etc. That relationship is the same no matter what midi note you tell it to play. So if you have a sequence going, the ratios of the operators are always going to be in a relationship of the note youre playing times 2 or 3 or 4, etc

    • @tracyharms3548
      @tracyharms3548 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Since I am approaching your tutorial with no involvement of MIDI, this accounts for some of my confusion. Thanks for your instruction, regardless.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ oh ok, well its the same with using like a modular sequencer that uses voltage to control the pitch. It’s just whatever pitch you tell the fm synth to play at, the ratios are going to be integer multiples of that pitch

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the modulator at a quarter carrier freq, then run through a folder. Pipe that through a lpg, and we're in contrabassoon territory.

  • @moresnqp
    @moresnqp หลายเดือนก่อน

    ive been using Helm for like, years now, and its mod knob uses FM, and i think it's the easiest way I've understood it

  • @rainbowkittycat627
    @rainbowkittycat627 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do this with physical modeling synthesis please!! (My fav synth is Objekt)

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't have as much experience with physical modeling as I do with FM, but I really love the sound of physical modeling synths. I'm planning on doing a video on modal synthesis (which is used in a lot of physical modeling algorithms) because it just sounds so cool. I don't know how much advice I could offer in sound designing with it, but there are so many directions you could go with it, and a couple of misconceptions that I see about it online, so I definitely want to do a video on that

    • @rainbowkittycat627
      @rainbowkittycat627 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Yes!!! Modal synthesis is my favorite part of physical modeling synthesis, and getting a deep dive into that in the same way you dove into 2 operator fm to just really have the fundamentals down would be so appreciated!!

    • @rainbowkittycat627
      @rainbowkittycat627 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ What modal synth do you like using/ would be using for the video? I currently use Mass in Opal by Fors when I want something simple, or Objekt when i want something more complex, but i’d love to know about more!!

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rainbowkittycat627 Have you heard of Fors other modal plugin called Tela? It's absolutely amazing. I personally think it's the best sounding modal synth out there, I think it has to do with the internal gain staging in the code because it just sounds so much more clean than any other one I've messed around with. Other than that, Ableton's native Collision is also a modal synth that sounds nice, Intellijel came out with a eurorack module that uses a very similar synth engine as Collision (they worked with the co-developers who worked on Collision), I don't know if it's just placebo but I think the eurorack module sounds better to my ears. Mutable's Rings is another classic one that I'm sure you can find in software form too, I don't think it sounds as good as the others I mentioned but you can use it as an actual resonator which is nice.

  • @sequencist
    @sequencist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video!

  • @GabrielPerboni
    @GabrielPerboni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great information and great advice…
    Besides Gem I would also recommend Glanta by Fors and Vector Fm, which is a weird and fun approach to sound generation with FM
    Pop and lux are very interesting as well, both bye Fors, But Lux is much more of an additive approach, very fun nonetheless
    Once again, thanks and congratulations…
    already subscribed and waiting for more❤

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Yeah pop and lux are awesome. Lux is actually completely additive and not FM. But I love putting it in a drum rack because it has that pitch envelope built in.
      After I finish these other FM videos I have in the works, I really wanna do a video on additive synthesis, because it is HIGHLY underrated

    • @GabrielPerboni
      @GabrielPerboni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cooksoni.a
      Please do the additive stuff!
      I had to move from LPX to Live and I miss Alchemy so much...
      Recently I read something about one OctoCell that looks promissing, but I couldn't find much information about it. Do you know it?

  • @marcus268
    @marcus268 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did you try the Kodamo Essence FM ? What do you think about it?

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@marcus268 i havent tried it, but ive heard mixed reviews, mostly because of the price probably. I’m not too familiar with it though.

    • @marcus268
      @marcus268 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cooksoni.a 1300 currently, with 4 stereo out, and 16 part multi timbrality and several times 6 op per patch has some mileage, but can be complicated to use it. I heared some convincing tones from it, but i thought i ask an expert fm about it. (you) Really enjoyed your videos, learned so much from it !

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marcus268 Haha, well thank you, that's very kind and I'm glad to hear it helped you. $1300 actually seems like a pretty reasonable price for all those specs. I'll have to check out some more videos on it. It's cool to see newer stuff that can be mounted in the 19" rack format, we should make racks cool again.

  • @slowslicing
    @slowslicing หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is your opinion on sytrus as a synth? can it do everything that fm8 can do? I tried using the feedback thing in sytrus (by self modulating an oscillator with itself) and wasnt able to get the noise sound you were able to with fm8, I am assuming that the synth programmer most likely decided the noise was undesirable and then limited the maximum possible amount of feedback. Would you say that when making patches, the noise part of the feedback is useful at all?
    Thank you so much for making this video, I might pick up fm8 when it is on sale.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@slowslicing I’ve never used sytrus, but that may be true that the developer didn’t give the FB the gain necessary to make noise. Depending on what DAW you use, there may be a stock FM synth that you could do it with, but my original DAW is Logic and you couldn’t do it there. I really love the noise that comes from high feedback, i think it can sound really pretty and of course you can use it to modulate in specific ways depending on how you use the envelopes. But keep an eye out for FM8 sales, i got it for $20 earlier this summer

  • @noel101082
    @noel101082 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video. really great. lets stay in touch.

  • @willferguson8497
    @willferguson8497 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Model:Cycles isn't the only one Blast Beats by Twisted Electrons is another fm drum machine

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's true, it's just not a very impressive drum machine to me honestly. I like the tone of the operators on those soundblaster chips, but I never really liked the way they were configured in the built in drum mode. There's not a whole lot of fm going on in it, which confused me bc I thought the chip architecture allowed for something more complex, but I don't fully understand it. In my opinion it doesn't end up sounding very interesting

  • @benedictjohnson2176
    @benedictjohnson2176 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As an FM genius, do you recommend the new Digitone 2 for FM sounds? Thank you

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benedictjohnson2176 well thank you but i wouldnt fancy myself a genius lol 😂 i cant recommend it currently because i havent used it, but i did order one. Maybe ill do a video on it when it gets here.

  • @olsihoxha1654
    @olsihoxha1654 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you!

  • @rflyn5864
    @rflyn5864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also I'm with you on being a little sad seeing the Digitone II doesn't have the same accent of color that the OG Digitone has with the track buttons, screen, and white keys. I literally just bought one a couple weeks ago and was surprised by the II announcement, but it stung a little bit less bc of the fact that I think the OG still looks cooler lol.

  • @Braunld
    @Braunld 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is there a digitone ii somewhere in this video, or is it just in the main picture for the video.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, I capitalized on it for views. 🫶

  • @rossheninger
    @rossheninger หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you’re mistaking how ableton operator’s coarse pitch adjustment corresponds to the modulator to carrier ratio. Each adjustment to coarse pitch is one semitone off the midi note played. So +12 coarse on the modulator would give a 2:1 ratio to an unmodified carrier because one whole octave is doubling the frequency. In this video you say coarse set to two means a ratio of two. That is also why you were confused about adjustment up to 41, which is still just a ratio around 3.5:1

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am new to operator/Live at large, but I don't think you're right. Ableton says this on their instrument reference page: Osc Coarse Frequency (Coarse) - The relationship between oscillator frequency and note pitch is defined by the Coarse and Fine parameters. Coarse sets the ratio in whole numbers, creating a harmonic relationship.
      Maybe you're thinking of fine? that would make more sense for semitones

  • @PeteGunnShow
    @PeteGunnShow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. I own the FM8 but have used it in exactly one song. I was surprised how well it does pads. Its not something i expected from an FM synth. But normally if i am going to do any audio rate modulation its in phase plant. SO my question is (and i cant find a clear answer) is what kind of FM synthesis does FM8 and others like DX7 use. is it linear FM? or is it actually Phase modulation ? my guess is linear FM where we are actually modulating the frequency and not the phase.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, FM8 uses linear phase modulation, and that's actually what every single FM synth uses. FM is a misnomer, just because that's what Yamaha patented it as in the 70s. But actually, there's no such thing as a true FM synth, it's all phase modulation. There are a couple reasons for that, the main one being that phase modulation much more computationally efficient than FM, and it allows you to do feedback which you can't do in FM (or at least it won't behave the way that it does in phase modulation).
      Linear FM is usually used to describe voltage controlled oscillators, as a opposed to exponential and thru-zero FM. Linear FM is most similar to phase modulation, but you need a ton of gain on the modulator to get the classic FM sounds. Thru-zero FM is usually a better choice for doing analog FM sounds.
      So yeah, it's like that meme of the astronauts and he goes "it's all just phase modulation?" and the other one says "it always has been" and kills him lol

    • @PeteGunnShow
      @PeteGunnShow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cooksoni.a ok thanks for clearning that up. I watched a video a long time ago when i was learning phase plant, where someone said "phase plant can do true FM synthesis not just phase modulation" which has probably caused a lot of wasted hours trying to get FM sounds from phase plant by modulating the frequency instead of the phase.
      Appreciate the video, it visually laid things out better than I have seen before. I spent the last hour or so with FM8 and phase plant open just trying to replicate sounds from FM8 in phase plant so i could have a better understanding of how the ratios and all that stuff works.
      So thanks again. looking forward to whatever comes next

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PeteGunnShow Okay that's interesting. Well whenever you can modulate the frequency of an oscillator at audio rate then you de facto can do FM, but there are a number of caveats there because of the different ways of scaling frequency, like I mentioned. And the difference of course becomes apparent when you use waveforms with straight angles. But when something is marketed as an FM synth, it's pretty much guaranteed to be phase modulation. Unless somebody makes something in Max or something, like I've seen an FM synth Max tutorial before and he just used FM instead of PM.
      But thanks for the compliment. I'll try and get my ass on that

    • @CatFish107
      @CatFish107 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@cooksoni.a Rad. Thanks for the explanations and insights. I think I have 3 different styles in my rack. Captain big O vco has inputs for exp and Lin fm, and the happy nerding fm aid does phase modulation. It actually expects a sawtooth as the input, LoL. Please do a vid on that. BRB, subscribing.

    • @goonfish
      @goonfish หลายเดือนก่อน

      DX7 uses what's now known as "Chowning-style" FM (due to its creator and relatively simple signal path). Also, Linear & Exponential FM are simply different ways the carrier osc processes the modulator onto its frequency: one example of how this differs is that Linear maintains the carrier osc's pitch and only affects timbre/harmonics/etc., whereas with Expo. FM the modulator(s) will change the _overall pitch_ of the carrier/voice as its frequency changes (causing pitch envelopes or vibrato effects).
      Both linear & exponential FM are applicable to the analog & digital realms, and very often FM synths are capable of both. This is NOT specific to hardware or "Voltage Controlled Oscillators". Now, Through-Zero FM is its own separate thing, and was originally only possible in the digital realm (and only really capable in analog domain as a hybrid circuit using clever switching circuits combined with a bipolar VCA, and it still has some differences & compromises).
      And just to add some further clarification on some of OP's opinions; FM & PM are distinct forms of synthesis with clear definitions - different from eachother but with some overlap, and capable of similar sounds. This is shown by the fact that you can modulate the phase-position of a wave cycle *or* its overall frequency in the same way, and end up with different results (you can also modulate both separately). FM does NOT automatically equal Phase Modulation in the technical sense, as OP states! Look into some proper PM synths (like retro Casio) to see some differences.
      Furthermore, Feedback is 100% possible in FM and is a pretty standard technique these days. I don't understand where OP cot this idea, as original feedback modulation simply meant a modulator osc's output being "fed back" into its own frequency (usually only by a partial cycle, I believe?) *before* affecting the carrier osc. But there are also different types & applications of FM Feedback.
      I believe OP's heart is in the right place, and the passion seems to be there, but there are still clear lapses in his overall understanding of not just FM synthesis, but some wider concepts of synthesis as a whole (and some of its terminology). This has led to them making some inaccurate information in the video and comment replies, likely due to innocent mixups and/or not having the "full picture" for some of these technologies. So I just wanted to clear some of it up - no hate here!

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video. Who is S Madison?

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! It's Ess Mattisson. He used to work at Elektron and had a big part in designing the Digitone and Model:Cycles. Now he's making plugins and M4L devices at Fors, their website is fors(dot)fm (youtube is weird about links in comments)

  • @longgianghai5420
    @longgianghai5420 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used feedback on Ableton Operator but it can't create sawtooth wave

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@longgianghai5420 what king of setup are you using? Lemme know what the settings and algorithm are

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh you know what, I forgot that Operator doesn't have the correct phase, it's a weird quirk. And I think that the feedback paths are not independent from the level of operator you're feeding back, so you won't be able to get the feedback level high enough before using it to modulate another operator. So unfortunately it seems like you can't do this trick in Operator, sorry about that.

    • @longgianghai5420
      @longgianghai5420 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cooksoni.a i used only one carrier with one modulation, the ratio is 1:1. But when i replay your video i realized the envelope of modulation is the key to create saw wave. The sustain is not 100% so that's is the problem. So i set 100% sustain for the envelope of modulation and i got a waveform sound 80% like sawtooth. Anyway, Thank you for this video, it's help me to understand how to use Fm synthesis.

  • @the8bitdeity
    @the8bitdeity หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I really like a ratio of 1:2" My friend, I hope you like EBM because that genre is pretty much entirely derived from grumpy musicians using 1:2 ratios

  • @ajmgdaj
    @ajmgdaj หลายเดือนก่อน

    What software is this? Nobody is asking in the comments so the question is probably stupid, ... but I couldn't find you mentioning it. Am I going crazy??

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're good lol, I mentioned it at the beginning of the sections but I was using Max for the first demo, then the plugin FM8 by Native Instruments, then Ableton Live's Operator instrument.

    • @ajmgdaj
      @ajmgdaj หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cooksoni.a Thx a lot! "Max" didn't mean anything to me. I hav been around the live sound synthesis world quite a while now and somehow it never crossed my paths. I noticed the word "max" in what you said, but thought it hopeless to google for "max" ^^. Thx for clearing things up for me!
      Have a good one!

    • @ajmgdaj
      @ajmgdaj หลายเดือนก่อน

      For ppl like me: The software is called Max/MSP by a company that seems to be associated with / a grooup from Ableton

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ajmgdaj yeah no prob! And yeah Max is a visual programming language/environment by the company Cycling '74, and they partnered up with Ableton so you can make Live-specific plugins called Max for Live Devices. There are a handful of official Ableton plugins that come with it which were made with Max, I'm not sure if it's like that for the standard version but if you have Live Suite then you're automatically able to load MFL devices , edit them, and make your own. Interestingly actually, Live was supposedly prototyped in the Max language back in the 90s lol

  • @christdolphin69
    @christdolphin69 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why put the dn2 in the thumbnail?

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@christdolphin69 For fun

  • @DaKingof
    @DaKingof 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting toys you have there! What's the abacus for? lol

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just have a fascination with abacuses lol, and I found that huge one for $20 at a thrift store in college so i had to get it 😂 it's probably a 70 year old teaching aid

    • @DaKingof
      @DaKingof 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cooksoni.a I was thinking you were maybe organizing drum loops on it or something. It is really cool though! I'd love to have one cause, aesthetic!

  • @bubbleandsquawk
    @bubbleandsquawk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KORG volca drum is also an FM drum machine!

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bubbleandsquawk I think actually it’s closer to physical modeling, the waveforms are just sine, saw, and noise, and those get sent to a “waveguide” which i think can be either a positive or negative comb filter. It sounds awesome tho, that one is also pretty one of a kind. If i get better at programming i really want to make a drum plugin reminiscent of that

    • @bubbleandsquawk
      @bubbleandsquawk หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cooksoni.a I’ve got one! I suppose it isn’t actually an FM synth per se now that I think about it, but it is capable of some very basic 2-op fm sounds via the sine modulator. There is no feedback and the modulator doesn’t have an envelope of its own but you can kind of work around this with motion recording. Also, each voice is bi-timbral and as you said there are noise waveforms in there so it’s pretty flexible.
      The waveguide is cool but you only get one of them and a send for each voice. If I use it at all it’s typically on one voice only.

  • @NunyaB1s
    @NunyaB1s 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An intuitive grasp of how to use FM synthesis is absolutely missing in all the pedagogy that's flying around. This is the logical continuation (in my book) of Synthesizer Keith's epic FM bass programming tutorial: th-cam.com/video/1XbrTC0NndM/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUNRk0gQmFzcyBQYXRjaA%3D%3D
    So the big gap that keith filled, was "How to use FM to achieve a desired result," but because he doesn't discuss (this isn't a slam, his is the only other FM synth video I ever recommended until now) understanding the nature of the 2OP basics, you don't fully appreciate his approach of dialing up x-operator segments to cover various parts of the desired sound as it develops over time.
    Further, you give a detailed explanation for WHY odd ratios (1:1, 1:3, etc...) offer sawlike properties while even ratios are more "squarelike"
    I'm playing along with my opsix and I'm already feeling ALOT better about how and why things are working it's like "achievement unlocked" with this video....

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's awesome, I'm glad to hear it. I haven't seen that video yet, I'll check it out tomorrow. I think I'll eventually do another video walking through some FM patches or patching from scratch, cuz it seems like that part was useful to people.

  • @dinogoldie9716
    @dinogoldie9716 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think of FM as "additive." I think of it in terms of multiplication and division.

  • @SeattleMarc
    @SeattleMarc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. Very educational. But you haven't exactly dispelled the myth that FM synthesis is hard and complicated.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SeattleMarc thank you. But I think I did, I tried to demonstrate that understanding FM boils down to understanding the timbral variations you get with only 3 parameters in a 2 operator configuration. I don’t think that’s any more difficult than understanding subtractive synthesis.

  • @gossamyr
    @gossamyr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    curious why the opsix/native was not even...there...

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've never used them

    • @gossamyr
      @gossamyr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      :-( well, I won't buy elektron

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@gossamyr Wow thank you for letting me know!

  • @the_glove
    @the_glove หลายเดือนก่อน

    .5 : 1 is great but .25 : 1 is juuicy

  • @radioblogtirana
    @radioblogtirana 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @markus6409
    @markus6409 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Breathing and POPPINg in the mic.
    Ärm feeling like NF?

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think you can pop into a built in laptop mic lol

  • @ryckdeckard262
    @ryckdeckard262 หลายเดือนก่อน

    low your gain "&or" comp tresh or shut your window o/ (conseil d'un ingé son français)

  • @quesadillasdemedianoche
    @quesadillasdemedianoche หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your video is awesome, really helpfull. But I must say one thing. Watch your vocal fry, the video is long and it gets tiring to hear

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@quesadillasdemedianoche well thank you but thats how i talk, so feel free to not listen lol

    • @quesadillasdemedianoche
      @quesadillasdemedianoche หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cooksoni.a I did not mean to sound rude, but I guess there is no way to say it in a comment box that it does not sound somewhat awkward. I'm sorry.

    • @cooksoni.a
      @cooksoni.a  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@quesadillasdemedianoche it's fine, sorry I was rude. I just can't really change the way I sound

  • @markus6409
    @markus6409 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cloneboy

  • @markus6409
    @markus6409 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahqaaaaaaajahaaaaa your laugh

  • @plixlt
    @plixlt หลายเดือนก่อน

    What business have ratio and amplitude to fm. Spread out harmonics, add harmonics? Wth that supposed to mean? Why spreading out harmonics related to frequency modulation, that two different things, how aplitude related to harmonics..that messy