Just as a footnote, I have recently applied this tweed cloth with contact adhesive, I brushed on the contact cement on to the timber, and sprayed the cloth with a spray version lightly. After the timber coat has dried off, apply the cloth then, hopefully you will avoid they bleed through that way.
Hi Murray, yes I'm just over the border in the Riverina. Thanks for your kind comments. I bought the cloth off ebay from hkpartspipe (I think) I've bought lots of bits and pieces from them and they are a very good supplier. I also bought the oxblood cloth from them as well. I have also ordered a sample amount of vinyl tweed from Marble audio they're in China also and very good to deal with. I don't know what to expect with the vinyl tweed, that's why I am only ordering a small amount to begin with. (Otherwise they have a min. Order quantity of 10 yards!)I am planning on making and selling more tweed cabs in the near future so I can use the 10 yards if it is a satisfactory material. The tissue tape is quite amazing stuff, it has heat tolerance of nearly 200 degrees Celsius, so it can handle the heat of the valves. I actually think it sticks better than contact adhesive. Fender used to use animal glue, but you need special heated gluing rollers to do that and can be messy and it is very difficult to acquire in Australia. Tissue tape (or a similar product is or was used in auto trimming for hood liners and vinyl door trims, from my experience in doing up cars they don't use contact adhesive so it must be ok! I have seen a showman of a similar era redone in Blonde tolex and it was stunning. Check out Uncle Doug's videos on TH-cam. He shows recovering amps in a very good and clear way using vinyl and contact adhesive. He gives great tips which make sense.all the best, I'd be interested in hearing how you get on. Please message me again if you have any more questions. Regards Colin
Thanks Kedecom😀 I haven't made any for a couple of years work commitments have been too demanding. My tips would be use brush on contact cement on the wood and a spray contact adhesive on the cloth. But the double sided tape is great for keeping edges down or where you overlap the tolex.
Hi Chris, It's been a while since I did these, You probaly need around at least a 3rd more material than the outside dimensions of the box. Plus you need enough to ensure the tweed is going in the right direction, plus a bit left over for possible errors.
If you had purchased a better grade of Tweed (with a fabric backing) you wouldn't have experienced the bleed-thru discoloring. The tape that you finally applied basically is substituting for the fabric backing that would have been on a better grade of tweed.
Hi Carl, To get a tweed with a backing would be ideal, although getting it for a reasonable price shipped to Australia might be an issue. However I have found that if you use a spray contact adhesive lightly applied the bleed through issue can also be avoided.
G'day sir! When you lay down the tape. do you overlap it slightly...or do you carefully butt the edges up to each other? What about compound curves, such as corners and such? Do you leave them and just pull the cloth up over them and stick them to the taped flat portions? Does the cloth stretch both ways fairly easily? I'm probably asking this question prematurely... I haven't wathed the follow-up vids yet. Lol! Thank you so much for posting this very informative video.
Hi Pjeter, yes I butt the tissue tape edge to edge, otherwise the finish on the material will show the bumps. With the corners the tissue TApe is very flexible (it's basically the glue without the backing) you need to make sure the whole surface is covered. I've recently used a tweed tolex vinyl and used contact cement, brush on type as the spray stuff doesn't stick as well as I would like, although I am going to cover more cabinets soon with the tweed material and try the contact cement again with the spray stuff on the cloth so it doesn't bleed through. Good luck:)
All of these glue problems are because that's the wrong kind of tweed. So just add some double-sticky tape and presto! it's fixed! I guess two wrongs really do make it right.
Hello Charris, Good idea with the double sided tape, that stuff is real tacky, and I could see it holding well indefinitely. Have purchased before from Bunnings small rolls, Bear Brand I think and it gets a bit pricey, was wondering if you didn't mind, where did you get such a bulk size roll from? and thanks for the video sharing some tips for us all. Cheers, Trev
Great video! I know I'm late to the game here, but what brand of tape was that? I'm about to recover an amp, and this is by far the best chance for me to get it right. Thanks!
Smitty Lange It's just double stick tape dude, you can get it at any store on the planet. If Google can't find you some double stick tape then that would be the only product in earth that isn't available. It's just double stick tape. It's as common as a Pepsi.
I was wondering if this is the same type of tape you used? www.findtape.com/product318/JVCC-DCP-03-Double-Coated-Heavy-Paper-Tape.aspx?cid=43&idx=1&tid=24&info=Paper%2b(Crepe%2band%2bKraft%2bFlatback) Your cabinet looks great, I'm gathering materials right now for a 5E3 clone of my own. I was going to buy the tweed & grille cloth direct from Fender for the sake of originality. Thanks for helping us first-timers with covering our amps!
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This is like the stuff I got. www.ebay.com.au/itm/58-X72-2yard-for-Fender-vintage-tweed-Texture-cloth-amplifier-Cabinet-covering-/141113029081?pt=AU_Instrument_Accessories&hash=item20dafdf1d9&_uhb=1
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Just as a footnote, I have recently applied this tweed cloth with contact adhesive, I brushed on the contact cement on to the timber, and sprayed the cloth with a spray version lightly. After the timber coat has dried off, apply the cloth then, hopefully you will avoid they bleed through that way.
Hi Murray, yes I'm just over the border in the Riverina. Thanks for your kind comments. I bought the cloth off ebay from hkpartspipe (I think) I've bought lots of bits and pieces from them and they are a very good supplier. I also bought the oxblood cloth from them as well. I have also ordered a sample amount of vinyl tweed from Marble audio they're in China also and very good to deal with. I don't know what to expect with the vinyl tweed, that's why I am only ordering a small amount to begin with. (Otherwise they have a min. Order quantity of 10 yards!)I am planning on making and selling more tweed cabs in the near future so I can use the 10 yards if it is a satisfactory material.
The tissue tape is quite amazing stuff, it has heat tolerance of nearly 200 degrees Celsius, so it can handle the heat of the valves. I actually think it sticks better than contact adhesive. Fender used to use animal glue, but you need special heated gluing rollers to do that and can be messy and it is very difficult to acquire in Australia. Tissue tape (or a similar product is or was used in auto trimming for hood liners and vinyl door trims, from my experience in doing up cars they don't use contact adhesive so it must be ok! I have seen a showman of a similar era redone in Blonde tolex and it was stunning. Check out Uncle Doug's videos on TH-cam. He shows recovering amps in a very good and clear way using vinyl and contact adhesive. He gives great tips which make sense.all the best, I'd be interested in hearing how you get on. Please message me again if you have any more questions. Regards Colin
Thank-you and Very nice! Are you still making cabinets and have you any new tips?
Thanks Kedecom😀 I haven't made any for a couple of years work commitments have been too demanding. My tips would be use brush on contact cement on the wood and a spray contact adhesive on the cloth. But the double sided tape is great for keeping edges down or where you overlap the tolex.
How much fabric does it take?
Hi Chris, It's been a while since I did these, You probaly need around at least a 3rd more material than the outside dimensions of the box. Plus you need enough to ensure the tweed is going in the right direction, plus a bit left over for possible errors.
If you had purchased a better grade of Tweed (with a fabric backing) you wouldn't have experienced the bleed-thru discoloring. The tape that you finally applied basically is substituting for the fabric backing that would have been on a better grade of tweed.
Hi Carl,
To get a tweed with a backing would be ideal, although getting it for a reasonable price shipped to Australia might be an issue. However I have found that if you use a spray contact adhesive lightly applied the bleed through issue can also be avoided.
charris939 Right. I'm just glad you worked out a way to get the job done with the materials at hand.
Isn't there any other color of tweed available? I've seen old luggage with light blue or light green, so it was at one time.
Was thinking the same exact thing
G'day sir! When you lay down the tape. do you overlap it slightly...or do you carefully butt the edges up to each other? What about compound curves, such as corners and such? Do you leave them and just pull the cloth up over them and stick them to the taped flat portions? Does the cloth stretch both ways fairly easily? I'm probably asking this question prematurely... I haven't wathed the follow-up vids yet. Lol! Thank you so much for posting this very informative video.
Hi Pjeter, yes I butt the tissue tape edge to edge, otherwise the finish on the material will show the bumps. With the corners the tissue TApe is very flexible (it's basically the glue without the backing) you need to make sure the whole surface is covered. I've recently used a tweed tolex vinyl and used contact cement, brush on type as the spray stuff doesn't stick as well as I would like, although I am going to cover more cabinets soon with the tweed material and try the contact cement again with the spray stuff on the cloth so it doesn't bleed through. Good luck:)
charris939 Thanks!
All of these glue problems are because that's the wrong kind of tweed. So just add some double-sticky tape and presto! it's fixed! I guess two wrongs really do make it right.
How has that double-faced tape held up after more than one year? Great video.
Hello Charris, Good idea with the double sided tape, that stuff is real tacky, and I could see it holding well indefinitely. Have purchased before from Bunnings small rolls, Bear Brand I think and it gets a bit pricey, was wondering if you didn't mind, where did you get such a bulk size roll from? and thanks for the video sharing some tips for us all. Cheers, Trev
hi where by tweed ,donde compro la tela cobertor
www.ebay.com.au/itm/58-X72-vintage-tweed-cloth-4-Fender-Amplifier-Cabinet-/131044340517?pt=AU_Instrument_Accessories&hash=item1e82d9f325
Great video! I know I'm late to the game here, but what brand of tape was that? I'm about to recover an amp, and this is by far the best chance for me to get it right. Thanks!
good day.where did u get your plan for this cab?thanks.
Alvin s It's just a wooden box Homie, there isn't much plan to it.
Hiya. Do you also sell cabinets for speakers or DIY amp projects?
I'm in Vic, cheers.
Where did you purchase this tape and what is the exact name?
Smitty Lange It's just double stick tape dude, you can get it at any store on the planet. If Google can't find you some double stick tape then that would be the only product in earth that isn't available. It's just double stick tape. It's as common as a Pepsi.
can i have your old used tweed fabric,please,,
I was wondering if this is the same type of tape you used?
www.findtape.com/product318/JVCC-DCP-03-Double-Coated-Heavy-Paper-Tape.aspx?cid=43&idx=1&tid=24&info=Paper%2b(Crepe%2band%2bKraft%2bFlatback)
Your cabinet looks great, I'm gathering materials right now for a 5E3 clone of my own. I was going to buy the tweed & grille cloth direct from Fender for the sake of originality.
Thanks for helping us first-timers with covering our amps!
Do you have the make and name of the tape?
anthony silva It's just double stick tape dude... It's as common as Coca-Cola.
These comments are killing me
wHeR cAn i gEt ThAt TaPe😕😕😕
I got bad news for anyone who can't find a "plan" for a simple wooden box. I don't know how you're going to make a wooden box if you need a plan. Folks like that are the reason pop tarts come with instructions...
This is like the stuff I got. www.ebay.com.au/itm/58-X72-2yard-for-Fender-vintage-tweed-Texture-cloth-amplifier-Cabinet-covering-/141113029081?pt=AU_Instrument_Accessories&hash=item20dafdf1d9&_uhb=1