I do the opposite when I look for the asteroids. I look for the ones with lots of holes and hollow areas. I like to build big hangars inside and drill holes to the outside for weapons and solar power. The center doesn't really matter. To quote you: "Just build it". 🙂
I'm sure that if you were to frame out some large connected rectangular boxes that would represent the maximum extents of the hangers (and whatever else), blueprint it and then project it ahead of one of your ships, it would make it so much easier to manouvre it around to find a starting position and also act as guides when drilling. Hope this helps.
Find midpoint, GPS point 1 + (GPS point 1 - GPS point 2) / 2 with GPS point 1 being the larger of the two for a given coordinate. Do this for each coordinate.
I was thinking this the whole time, just use GPS markers with you character on each end or point of asteroid then half that set block see how it looks, the block method I understand for getting a decent visual of a possible layout, but super time consuming, GPS could simplify tho process and save materials as well as time, making your videos more productive, but I love the content keep it up, 👍👍👍
When I want to place my stuff in the "middle" I place GPS-markers at the endpoints. Might not be perfect, but I don't have to count 186 blocks. It's also somewhat flexible on the orientation. I would somewhat like the base with a horizontal tilt. That whay some sections stand out a bitt while others regress into the stone.
it would be great if you had a friend to help you could you add escape pods to your ship??? a couple of other suggestions a docking port for a smaller vessel on your ship that's easier to maneuver to move loot from docking ports of your bases would also love to see your ship air tight so air bottles are hassle free when piloting or working this inside of your vessel some good blue lighting on the inside would look cool too like the lighting you used on your mining ship from earlier/previous series but inside your ship to help see! turn that puppy into a proper Cruiser pls!!! it looks super sweet already show us your building finesse!
Yeah I was thinking of doing a series with my kids, it would be funny running around repairing all the things they destroy and teaching them how to play, could be interesting lol. Yeah I am tempted to replace the ship with the Atlas as it's way more capable, but that's part of the charm of this ship, the fact that it is a hobbled together "kinda does everything" type deal 😊✌️ Maybe I can do a separate video and make it into something nice in creative mode and make a blueprint, though I would need to get permission from the original creator to share it on the workshop 😉
@@TheGarageGamer86 "Perfection" is relative. To one person, its all about form. To another, its all about function. As a real life engineer, for me, its all about function.
Little trick for counting blocks in Space Engineers: Put the amount of blocks you want to count as iron plates into your inventory and just place down the normal blocks. (for example: you want to count 157 Blocks? put exactly 157 plates into your inventory.)
yes, targeting weapons will only target weapons regardless of focus locked target, focus target will make all weapons target that particular lock instead of each shooting at its own thing. By default the game target the closest block near the gun. If you have the guns set to target weapons, and you lock in a target that doesn't have a weapon, those guns will just ignore it. Hmm, now that you mentioned, if the drone is coming in the ship direction and you destroy, lets say, its power supply, then it will just drift forward until it crashes or despawn. Usually they get diverged from the ship path when they get hit, but the chance still there
Planning the design of a permanent base is necessary. You will look at the results and live with them for the rest of the build. Quote: "The founding principles of architecture, as described by the Roman writer and engineer Vitruvius in his book De Architectura (On Architecture), were firmitas, utilitas, venustas, which can be translated as solidity, usefulness and beauty." In other words: Architecture concerns the things that are difficult or expensive to change later. You got this. Using your experience you can get it aligned to your preferences.
Yeah this is exactly how I feel about it. I remember when I was doing my wasteland Garage it took me ages to plan out where to start drilling and I'm glad I did because it ended up exactly in the middle of the valley as well as the landing pads 😁👌
I think default targeting for enemies may be to target your weapons. This would concentrate fire on the area of your hydrogen tanks if your weapons are mounted on them. I am noob but think that is something to avoid if possible. Could put all hydrogen tanks in one area and armour them up then have weapons away from them. Ps: its an irregular asteroid shape not a sphere. Its not important to measure from the ends, if you want the "middle" its only middle would be a centre of mass and that's a gut feel thing. Trust your first instinct. It SHOULD be unique and yours so what you fear may be a mistake be not being central, is the STORY people are here to see.
For easy surveying u can build a long chain of blocks (kilometers long) and use a projector. with two of them u can find the center of an asteroid, mountain. see where a tunnel would come out. etc. then use location bookmarks for distances.
Yeah I've done this a few times in my last series, mainly to see where a tunnel will end up or where I need to start drilling a tunnel to make it end where I want it to 😎👌
Hey mate sit back have a rest and a BEER are you planning on putting the same steady pace as you did in Wastelands your planning and execution was such a big hit for me anyways. I really enjoyed the effort you put into the last base which mind you had everything... I am for some reason so very excited. there is nothing better than coming home from a crappy day at work and just chilling out to your vids thank you so very much.. on the orientation of the base I think if you try and make it symmetrical it will be a bit too sterile a little bit of unbalance would be more interesting in my own opinion. not every thing in life is balanced
I like your thinking, beer sounds lovely right about now 😎✌️. But yeah I am planning to put the same, if not even more effort into building, but at the same time I would like a little bit of a challenge with some NPC Mods 😊. It's awesome to know that you like the building I do, and I'm glad it make your day better!! If you are a paramedic then you must have some very rough days!! Take care mate 😎👌
Im sure im way too late to have input but what about having a large shaft/tunnel from the crater on the bottom left (when looking at the face) that splits into 2 hangers? So you would build the long ways and then on top of eachother? You would only need 1 hanger door or 3 to keep extrasafe. So happy i finally caught up!
I'm planning to have the hangers either completely open on both sides or just one side, they will be waaaaaaay to big to have a door, or at least an air tight door. They will probably be of a similar size to my Silo in the Wasteland Survival Series 😊
So… this is a video for over thinkers. It’s exhausting honestly. I give you props man but I say forget all that let’s just make a hole and figure it out later lol.
The turrets auto lock and fire on its designated instructions, if you leave them on default they will shoot thru the list you have ticked. So leaving them on seprated targets is viable
My preferred way of finding the center of an asteroid is either setting gps markers on the surface of the asteroid or projecting a long structure through the asteroid with a middle protruding piece in the center of said structure!
It will target weapons regardless if you have a target locked. The button is for them to switch target from the one they chose on their own to the one you chose via target locking.
Yeah sometimes having the second PC Running and seeing where I am at from the third person is pretty cool, sadly though you can't really see the ore deposits from inside the asteroid, you can only see them when they are exposed to the surface, I Imagine they did that on purpose haha
I bet you could build a structure on the front of a ship with a shape something like this: |----|----| and shine a high powered light on it to cast a crosshair shadow on the asteroid and find a center point that way
Did you noticed that abut 100m above you're Ship you are in Artificial Gravity with 1G ? But otherwise it could be a good Base that Asteroid has plenty of Space to Build and I'm looking forward to the Challenge when you want to add the Reevers
You could.put the ai defensive block on to your ship it can target enemy's up to 2.4km away means your guns will start shooting weapons batteries etc. It's a very handy block
Really? Hmmmm I need to look into that! Then again my modded weapons can reach out that far without the use of the AI defensive block, but it would be handy for Vanilla weapons 😎👌.
Yeah I reckon they are way too expensive though, it's less time consuming to mine the materials yourself and build the ship from the stations using a blueprint from Keen's page LOL. Even if you weld them with a hand welder!! I think they need to balance that a bit more 🤔
Nah they are just to make you own custom turrets behave like regular turrets, so kinda like that massive dual railgun turret I build in Wasteland Survival 😎✌️
Haha yeah I saw that, it's pretty cool to see that stuff. I have to comment on his video but gotta get through all of the comments on my Channel first lol. 😅
Wouldn't it be nice being able to build lanes of block like in creative just with unfinished blocks and the steel plates just disapear in the inventory
Yes, my comment last week about placing guns on the hydrogen tanks was when you originally was looking at them. I know you didnt put them on there in the end.
I don't quite see why you need the exact center of the asteroid if you're not going to do a fully symmetrical build, if you're just freebasing a general center is more than enough.
What about the drones that would ram into you? People haven't thought about that? At least put in the thrusters too. For asteroid base if you have the hangar would that have docking clamps like in star trek enterprise series when in orbi the nx 02 columbia is held in place by dicking clamps.
The hope and the dream is that I would have enough weapons to destroy them before they get close enough to ram me, but we shal see lol. I would love to do something like that, but I don't know if it really makes sense in survival. I love that series BTW 😎👌
I do the opposite when I look for the asteroids. I look for the ones with lots of holes and hollow areas. I like to build big hangars inside and drill holes to the outside for weapons and solar power. The center doesn't really matter. To quote you: "Just build it". 🙂
I have absolutely no clue how to play this game. But love watching you build this crazy sh*t.
It's taken me a good few months to make a small ship to mine asteroids it's complicated but definitely fun 10/10 would definitely recommend
It's well worth it 😎👌. Thanks for tuning in man! 😁
I'm sure that if you were to frame out some large connected rectangular boxes that would represent the maximum extents of the hangers (and whatever else), blueprint it and then project it ahead of one of your ships, it would make it so much easier to manouvre it around to find a starting position and also act as guides when drilling. Hope this helps.
Or just use GPS's and find the center that way. Watching him place blocks made my head hurt.
Find midpoint, GPS point 1 + (GPS point 1 - GPS point 2) / 2 with GPS point 1 being the larger of the two for a given coordinate. Do this for each coordinate.
Dont forget your friend Pythagoras. But yeah, i was confused too why you place all this blocks. Next time you can save a ton of time with GPS 😉
I was thinking this the whole time, just use GPS markers with you character on each end or point of asteroid then half that set block see how it looks, the block method I understand for getting a decent visual of a possible layout, but super time consuming, GPS could simplify tho process and save materials as well as time, making your videos more productive, but I love the content keep it up, 👍👍👍
When I want to place my stuff in the "middle" I place GPS-markers at the endpoints. Might not be perfect, but I don't have to count 186 blocks. It's also somewhat flexible on the orientation.
I would somewhat like the base with a horizontal tilt. That whay some sections stand out a bitt while others regress into the stone.
i did enjoy watching a spacenerd living up to his authistic dreams of the perfect mid of an asteroid
Thanks mate 😎👌
Wow.That gun fight was awesome!😊
Cheers 😎✌️
it would be great if you had a friend to help you could you add escape pods to your ship???
a couple of other suggestions
a docking port for a smaller vessel on your ship that's easier to maneuver to move loot from docking ports of your bases
would also love to see your ship air tight so air bottles are hassle free when piloting or working this inside of your vessel
some good blue lighting on the inside would look cool too like the lighting you used on your mining ship from earlier/previous series but inside your ship to help see!
turn that puppy into a proper Cruiser pls!!! it looks super sweet already show us your building finesse!
Yeah I was thinking of doing a series with my kids, it would be funny running around repairing all the things they destroy and teaching them how to play, could be interesting lol.
Yeah I am tempted to replace the ship with the Atlas as it's way more capable, but that's part of the charm of this ship, the fact that it is a hobbled together "kinda does everything" type deal 😊✌️
Maybe I can do a separate video and make it into something nice in creative mode and make a blueprint, though I would need to get permission from the original creator to share it on the workshop 😉
Its utterly amazing you went through all of this!
Yeah I can be way too much of a perfectionist haha
@@TheGarageGamer86 "Perfection" is relative.
To one person, its all about form.
To another, its all about function.
As a real life engineer, for me, its all about function.
Little trick for counting blocks in Space Engineers: Put the amount of blocks you want to count as iron plates into your inventory and just place down the normal blocks. (for example: you want to count 157 Blocks? put exactly 157 plates into your inventory.)
That's a really good idea!! 😎✌️
yes, targeting weapons will only target weapons regardless of focus locked target, focus target will make all weapons target that particular lock instead of each shooting at its own thing.
By default the game target the closest block near the gun.
If you have the guns set to target weapons, and you lock in a target that doesn't have a weapon, those guns will just ignore it.
Hmm, now that you mentioned, if the drone is coming in the ship direction and you destroy, lets say, its power supply, then it will just drift forward until it crashes or despawn. Usually they get diverged from the ship path when they get hit, but the chance still there
Yeah with any luck because they are small grid they wont cause that much damage 😎✌️
Planning the design of a permanent base is necessary. You will look at the results and live with them for the rest of the build.
Quote:
"The founding principles of architecture, as described by the Roman writer and engineer Vitruvius in his book De Architectura (On Architecture), were firmitas, utilitas, venustas, which can be translated as solidity, usefulness and beauty."
In other words: Architecture concerns the things that are difficult or expensive to change later.
You got this. Using your experience you can get it aligned to your preferences.
Wouldn't firmitas be better translated into foundation? In the modern building construction sense.
Yeah this is exactly how I feel about it. I remember when I was doing my wasteland Garage it took me ages to plan out where to start drilling and I'm glad I did because it ended up exactly in the middle of the valley as well as the landing pads 😁👌
You should put a laser antenna and a few cameras on the old base. That way you can dial in and see how it is doing whilst working on the new base.
Yeah I really gotta brush up on my Laser Antenna's again 😅
Listening to you talk reminds me of the whombat on the comparre market advert.
I can't say I have seen that before lol
I think default targeting for enemies may be to target your weapons. This would concentrate fire on the area of your hydrogen tanks if your weapons are mounted on them.
I am noob but think that is something to avoid if possible. Could put all hydrogen tanks in one area and armour them up then have weapons away from them.
Ps: its an irregular asteroid shape not a sphere. Its not important to measure from the ends, if you want the "middle" its only middle would be a centre of mass and that's a gut feel thing. Trust your first instinct. It SHOULD be unique and yours so what you fear may be a mistake be not being central, is the STORY people are here to see.
Yeah I think you are right, I ended up not putting them on top of the Tanks so hopefully I don't have any issues 😁
For easy surveying u can build a long chain of blocks (kilometers long) and use a projector. with two of them u can find the center of an asteroid, mountain. see where a tunnel would come out. etc. then use location bookmarks for distances.
Yeah I've done this a few times in my last series, mainly to see where a tunnel will end up or where I need to start drilling a tunnel to make it end where I want it to 😎👌
Hey mate sit back have a rest and a BEER are you planning on putting the same steady pace as you did in Wastelands your planning and execution was such a big hit for me anyways. I really enjoyed the effort you put into the last base which mind you had everything... I am for some reason so very excited. there is nothing better than coming home from a crappy day at work and just chilling out to your vids thank you so very much.. on the orientation of the base I think if you try and make it symmetrical it will be a bit too sterile a little bit of unbalance would be more interesting in my own opinion. not every thing in life is balanced
I like your thinking, beer sounds lovely right about now 😎✌️. But yeah I am planning to put the same, if not even more effort into building, but at the same time I would like a little bit of a challenge with some NPC Mods 😊. It's awesome to know that you like the building I do, and I'm glad it make your day better!! If you are a paramedic then you must have some very rough days!! Take care mate 😎👌
Im sure im way too late to have input but what about having a large shaft/tunnel from the crater on the bottom left (when looking at the face) that splits into 2 hangers? So you would build the long ways and then on top of eachother? You would only need 1 hanger door or 3 to keep extrasafe. So happy i finally caught up!
I'm planning to have the hangers either completely open on both sides or just one side, they will be waaaaaaay to big to have a door, or at least an air tight door. They will probably be of a similar size to my Silo in the Wasteland Survival Series 😊
So… this is a video for over thinkers. It’s exhausting honestly. I give you props man but I say forget all that let’s just make a hole and figure it out later lol.
I think the tilted alignment would be better to use more of the asteroids volume. A HUGE hanger would be cool if u have some magnesium spare hehe👌
Yeah the hangers I plan to build are gonna be pretty big 😎✌️
The turrets auto lock and fire on its designated instructions, if you leave them on default they will shoot thru the list you have ticked. So leaving them on seprated targets is viable
My preferred way of finding the center of an asteroid is either setting gps markers on the surface of the asteroid or projecting a long structure through the asteroid with a middle protruding piece in the center of said structure!
It will target weapons regardless if you have a target locked. The button is for them to switch target from the one they chose on their own to the one you chose via target locking.
Thanks for the clarification 😎✌️
I would suggest having at least one gattling gun targeting propulsion
I would have made a gps coor on both ends and got as close to center and called it good.
I bet doing time lapses for mining Is nice from your perspective so you can also see how much ore is left
Yeah sometimes having the second PC Running and seeing where I am at from the third person is pretty cool, sadly though you can't really see the ore deposits from inside the asteroid, you can only see them when they are exposed to the surface, I Imagine they did that on purpose haha
I bet you could build a structure on the front of a ship with a shape something like this: |----|----| and shine a high powered light on it to cast a crosshair shadow on the asteroid and find a center point that way
That's a very creative solution!! 😊🤔
Set your gatlings to target power blocks and you will save ammo
Hmmmmm, might have to look into this, thanks for the suggestion 😎✌️
I believe the target weapons targets the weapons (without it having to be a focused target)
I hope so! I have noticed a little less gunfire to take them out lately, so maybe that is indeed the case 😊
Did you noticed that abut 100m above you're Ship you are in Artificial Gravity with 1G ?
But otherwise it could be a good Base that Asteroid has plenty of Space to Build and I'm looking forward to the Challenge when you want to add the Reevers
I did in the latest episode, whoever designed the ship was not too conservative with the setting on the gravity generator 😅😂
You could.put the ai defensive block on to your ship it can target enemy's up to 2.4km away means your guns will start shooting weapons batteries etc. It's a very handy block
Also instead of an astroid base what about building a space station? means you can be close to astroids and be exposed to sun and views
Really? Hmmmm I need to look into that! Then again my modded weapons can reach out that far without the use of the AI defensive block, but it would be handy for Vanilla weapons 😎👌.
Mainly because I like having it underground for protection, and I just think it's cool 😎✌️
you can use the games in place economy to buy some cool ships and other such things
Yeah I reckon they are way too expensive though, it's less time consuming to mine the materials yourself and build the ship from the stations using a blueprint from Keen's page LOL. Even if you weld them with a hand welder!! I think they need to balance that a bit more 🤔
@@TheGarageGamer86 yeahhh it’s just not too worth it in vanilla
Don’t you need the custom turret controller for targeting power and turret systems?
Nah they are just to make you own custom turrets behave like regular turrets, so kinda like that massive dual railgun turret I build in Wasteland Survival 😎✌️
Maybe its different in game somehow but isnt ANY point on the sphere the center point? Tell me if im wrong
That is correct, if you know where the center point is 😉
JackRPG posted a review of your mammoth miner today.
Haha yeah I saw that, it's pretty cool to see that stuff. I have to comment on his video but gotta get through all of the comments on my Channel first lol. 😅
Wouldn't it be nice being able to build lanes of block like in creative just with unfinished blocks and the steel plates just disapear in the inventory
Yeah being able to select an option to place unfinished blocks in creative would be a very nice feature 😎✌️
Yes, my comment last week about placing guns on the hydrogen tanks was when you originally was looking at them. I know you didnt put them on there in the end.
Sound advice my friend! 😎✌️
Why go threw when you can go up or down in to the astroid.
is this a mistake? you have 2 episodes that say Ep17. is that correct or just a error?
Ahhh 😅, yes it was a mistake, I've changed it now, thanks for letting me know 😎
You could have just put the inner line on a hinge and trialed and errored the perfect angle
Now why didn't I think of that!! 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂 Seems so obvious now that you say it lol.
The thumbnail way episode 17 but its 18
Yeah I'm gonna change it shortly, I was away from my home PC when I created it.
😊
I feel nice that you replied you are my favorite
I don't quite see why you need the exact center of the asteroid if you're not going to do a fully symmetrical build, if you're just freebasing a general center is more than enough.
I'm a chronic over thinker! 😅😂
What about the drones that would ram into you? People haven't thought about that? At least put in the thrusters too. For asteroid base if you have the hangar would that have docking clamps like in star trek enterprise series when in orbi the nx 02 columbia is held in place by dicking clamps.
The hope and the dream is that I would have enough weapons to destroy them before they get close enough to ram me, but we shal see lol. I would love to do something like that, but I don't know if it really makes sense in survival. I love that series BTW 😎👌
@@TheGarageGamer86 It's not impossible
YOU TALK TOO MUCH