Jane's Addiction is easily among the 5 greatest rock bands of all time. I don't meet many people who truly understand how great they were. ....much respect.
this doesn't get said enough but Eric Avery is one of the greatest and most underrated bass players ever. Especially on Ritual. That album changed my life and to this day I find it hard to find people that share that passion. I learned to play bass with Eric. Shout out to Eric. If you're reading this: you rule man. Your solo stuff also is the shit and remains some of my favorite music ever. Highly recomended.
OK Eric's Mom. But coming up with a few hooks is different than being a full time collaborator with a professional band. Eric dug his own grave using his ego as a shovel.
Hardly the greatest bass player lol jaco pastorious is the greatest..but Eric's playing on both albums are definitely a driving force but Jane's addiction are sum of all the parts..had one not been in the band we wouldn't be talking about them 30 yrs later lol
Yeah, he's got some beautiful lines. Naturally, he's not Jaco Pastorius, but as great as JP was, how awful would he be in Jane's Addiction? Eric A. was the perfect bass player for Jane's at the time and that part of their legacy wouldn't be the same without his melodic contributions. Check out Then She Did...
Bill Burr if you’re reading this, you are so goddamn right. Jane’s Addiction are THE most underrated rock band in history. And I like Nirvana but Nothing Shocking and Ritual De La Habitual smokes anything Nirvana did. It’s a whole other level!!!
It is criminal how little Jane's Addiction is recognized for how they lit it all off. No many other bands have had two masterpieces to start their career.
maybe when I came to discover them, but Nothing's Shocking changed my life. So many amazing tracks on that album. Can't argue with Three Days being beyond comprehension...but still.
Yes. Jane's Addiction. No band has ever sounded even similiar. Everything about them is so strange. The visuals of the band. The guitar solos of Dave Navarro that build on the concept of the space between..he hangs on notes or chords, he can shred but mostly flows like spirals if you close your eyes, to beats that are primal all with this solid bass stepping through it all. And Perry's vocals like captured thoughts dropped as echos that bend in harmony with my own thoughts. They are still a soundtrack of my life. Ritual is great and never sounds dated.
One of my all-time favorites. Desert island disc for me for sure. Love Ritual as well, but I like the flow of Shocking better. Ritual is divided by side, vinyl style. All the epic stuff is on side two.
I agree, but in a different way. especially when considering side two of Ritual...but it's hard to compare genius to more genius. Ocean Size, Had a Dad, and Ted Just Admit it.... yeah, waaaay before it's time. From another world. :)
@@twotonkatrucks In Utero is the poppy one?? I’ve never heard anything like Scentless Apprentice or Milk It playing on the radio but let me know what station you’re listening to if you have
Bill Burr has impeccable taste and nuance when talking this. He's on point with Rituale and PfP. That meditation story was beautiful. I legitimately want to try this given that second half of Ritual is everything to me. Huge part of my adolescence.
a lot did, which was due to Nirvana popularizing that stuff in that era, Nevermind was the album that brought the underground to the mainstream. Neither band was meant to be popular, but one they were it took off.
Jane's is underrated on every level. Completely original and groundbreaking. Grunge, to me anyway, sounds like regular rock recorded on a rainy Sunday in a moldy basement with a hangover. It has it's moments, but nothing I haven't heard before in some fashion.
God damnit! Just when I didn’t think I could like Bill Burr any more, he throws down some gem musical comparisons, right in line with my own thoughts and taste! Perrys lyrics in Of Course and Then She Did... Stephens drumming in Janes and in Porno For Pyros! Right the fuck on, Bill! Preach! No comparison for Nirvana!
Nirvana's music pulled you in with hypnotic melodies then hit you with heavy power chords and head banging rock. Jane's Addiction was more abstract and spiritual, but could also hit you with heavy shit like "mountain song". Both bands were great.
This album...holy shit...THIS album!!.. This was the soundtrack to my summer of 91'. Not one bad track... all killer, no filler! Jane's Addiction is criminally underrated. The production on that album was 100% top notch. I can still smell the incense...
Man, I always felt so alone in my total appreciation of Jane’s Addiction! There were so many great alternative bands before Nirvana, they were just the ones that really hit the zeitgeist. And they were incredible, no doubt Kurt was a genius. I think mostly it’s because Jane’s crashed and burned right before Nirvana released Nevermind. If they’d have stuck around, who knows. Love both bands.
I saw Jane's in December of 1990 and Nirvana in October of 1991, both at First Ave in Minneapolis. Nirvana was great, Jane's Addiction was next level incredible. Still one of the best shows I've ever seen!
Jane's was untouchable 1989 - 1992 ... best band on the planet. No one else was even close. No one else has even come close since for me. Saw them 5 times in all sorts of different venues. The Ritz, NYC MSG, NYC 2 shows days apart in Stanhope NJ on 1st LOLLAPALOOZA tour outside in a field. And reunion of original line up at Jones Beach NY. The Ritz show is the best concert I've ever been to EVER!
Siamese Dream and Gish are immaculate. Mellon Collie was bloated for sure. It COULD have been a lean mean single album. But that didn't happen. However....Adore I think holds up, especially the first half. Daphne Descends and Appels + Oranges have such a cool shoegaze dream-pop thing going on. And don't get me started on Machina I & II....by FAR the most underrated shit they did. Those two albums are better than Adore or Mellon Collie imo. And they got basically zero respect or love.
Thank's for this upload I discovered Janes's Addiction. I was a kid from Northern Europe who got out of Soviet occupations at the beginning of the 90ies. We mostly got the Western mainstream things here back them. And Nirvana was one of them. 30 years later I discover this masterpiece. Huge-huge gratitude on my part to you, Uploader!
Just stumbled across this. I grew up in Houston and went to UH my freshman year. Lived in a dorm on campus. It was mid-January...Sunday night...1989....and the Spring semester started the next day. I was in my dorm...bored out of my skull. Some friends who were still in high school called my dorm and said "Hey...go see this band with us at Numbers." (Iconic club that is still around today). "Who is the band?" ... "Jane's Addiction." ... "Never heard." .... "Trust us." "Ok how much to get in?" "$10." I had $10 to my name for the entire semester. I went to a local sketch convenience store and bought two 40 oz. malt liquors. After tax I had around $7.84 in my pocket. Slammed the 40's. They let me in. I was straight up blown away. By the band of course ... not the underpaid entry. Throughout the show I kept thinking "Who in the actual f*** are these guys? Just ...... WTF?" Had a job after class ... saved money ... and bought the Nothing's Shocking CD and then bought their actual first CD (self-titled all live on XXX records). Still two of my favorite listens to this day and I am 52 years old. I introduced my (now 17 and 19 year old) daughters to these albums a few years ago ... they have since introduced a ton of their friends ... and they are all in agreement in regard to the uniqueness of the sound. When Ritual hit I was now a junior in college at Southwest Texas State University (Party school!) I loved Ritual ... but now literally everyone, their dog, etc. knew Jane's Addiction. As such ... uniqueness (to me) was gone ... but all good and no biggie. I first heard Nirvana in the Fall of 1991. Blown away of course ... unique sound ... and they were on heavy rotation with our posse as well as rest of the nation ... but not the same "I randomly saw them before they blew up" experience. At any rate....glad I stumbled across this. Peace.
Nothings Shocking I like even better. That record blew my mind at 16yrs old. And then life changer when I saw live in like 88 or 89 favorite band. As long as I don't see anything post breakup.
I'm only 19 and can tell you that Jane's addiction was on another level with their creativity. But Nirvana is so attractive because of the attitude of Kurt
Yeah I agree. Kurt Cobain was the mascot to go with the music which brought more appeal. Both good bands but yes, Jane's Addiction is quite underrated and needs more credit. Another band is Hüsker Dü
This is so on point, especially when he starts to talk about meditation to the second half of the album. It was almost a jaw drop moment for me because i used to do the same exact thing at night, not knowing what I was doing. Then once, when I was in high school and smoked weed for one of the first times ever, I remember listening to three days on the floor in my best friend's apartment. I just was lying face down, feeling the music in this way I never had before, when i started to feel like I was falling and melting with the music but in a very blissful way...until it reached almost EXACTLY the same point Bill mentions here, when he felt he would go out of body. I started crying and thought I had just descended so far down into the floor that I was dead or in some kind of void space. It sounds really odd, and lame, like typical stoner kid type stuff, but it is one of the most poignant and vivid memories I have of an experience like that. To this day, I will always regard Ritual de lo Habitual as one of my top three favorite pieces of music ever (esp that second side, but the whole thing is great). Nothing Shocking and the self titled album are amazing too, in different ways, but this was a very special album. Truly. And Bill is right about how unique it was not only at the time it came out, but it withstands the test of time. It's been a while since I've given it a listen. I think I will tonight. :)
When I first heard INXS's Kick album I thought "This is what the 90's are going to sound like." Then I had the same thought when I heard REM's Green. Then Sonic Youth's Goo. Then Nirvana's Nevermind, which really did feel, for me, more revolutionary than the others. I discovered Jane's Addiction's Nothing's Shocking and Primus' Sailing the Seas of Cheese, etc., a year or two late, and totally love those albums, but missed out on hearing them in their precise contemporary cultural context. Then Kurt abruptly checked out before the audience could bore of it, and most late 90's music sucked, which served to cement my personal impression of Nirvana's premier cultural importance among their contemporaries. I think my teenager hormones helped with that, too. I listen to Nevermind now, and while it's a good album, the emotional profundity of it is only an intellectual memory now.
I remember thinking that same thing about Kick & Violator...& then being dead wrong by the fall of 1991, lol. BTW, check out the tribute act KICK: The INXS Experience. Fantastic band!!
Totally agree and have thought the same thing myself. Siamese Dream and Ritual are easily among the best alt albums of the 90s. They are simply far more musical.
Siamese Dream? SP were legitimate only with Gish and Lull. Siamese Dream was aimed right at top 40 radio and marks the time SP sold out. Their latest stuff is appalling.
Nice take on Jane's Addiction! My introduction to them was after "Nothing's Shocking" came out. My Dad apparently read a review of the album in Playboy and bought it for me for Christmas. Nice present to open Christmas Day with the whole family there and CDs still being a new sorta thing. "A CD? Let me see that." Okay Grandma, here you go, disregard the naked Siamese twins with their hair on fire! Anyway, I was a fan from the first listen. Ritual is an amazing album - totally agree with Bill about Side 2. I think "Strays" is a very underrated album from them.
The 2 disc version with the Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas EP was the first CD I ever bought (previously was buying all cassettes). Alice In Chains' Sap was my second (local stores only had it on CD).
My first acid trip involved listening to 3 Days... I had to play it twice to make sure it was as epic as I thought it was the first time, and it was. I remember drawing a lot while listening to the second side of Ritual.... Can't agree more... This album smokes 'Nevermind'. As well, Smashing Pumpkins 'Gish' came out on the same day as Nevermind. Had Nevermind not come out, Gish would have been the big album that year... sad because Nevermind overshadowed Gish and most people don't know shit about that album, all they know is everything after that stupid Today song.
E.P. James MacAdams For sure. He should definitely be comparing Nothing's Shocking to Nevermind..I think ritual is a way overrated album that just ride the coat tales of Nothing's Shocking.
Chuck M overrated? I am sure there are a lot of people that agree with you that Nothing Shocking is superior. I am just not one of them. The "second side" of Ritual is a fucking masterpiece in my opinion. That is not based off anyone's hype or reviews or what my friends think, so I refuse to accept that it is overrated. Both are great albums, just because they had some mainstream success because of the mtv video for stealing, no need to play too cool for school, I was there before these posers and slag off such a great album. But you are entitled to your own opinion.
I haven't listen to Ritual De Lo Habitual in years. But I'm revisiting it now, and I remember every guitar lick, every drum fill, bass line, crazy weird vocals, changes ups. The clove cigarettes my friends smoked in the car with the windows closed. My heart is sinking from getting dumped. I'm pretty lucky to have been a teen when it was popular and to have these memories attached to it. Nevermind became the game changer because Teen Spirit was the antithesis of Glam Rock and received insane airtime on MTV, and the execs and think tanks anticipated the new market. Plus, Perry is about as marketable as a bag of used coat hangers.
Jane's Addiction's "Nothing Shocking" is what finally opened things up and created that crossover of "underground" music and commercial music. Nothing's Shocking just broke things open for punk and metal to be more accepted by more people. Everytime I see articles or hear people talk about how Nirvana changed the face of music, I just shake my head. Jane's Addiction was a giant turning point in music and helped pave the way for bands like Nirvana.. And then Perry Farrell created Lolapolooza, which just seemed so appropriate for him to do since it involved bringing all types of music together to be enjoyed and appreciated by everyone.
Yes! Nevermind is excellent...even perfect. But.....The first two Janes albums and Gish......hold up better in the long run imo. I still regularly listen to those albums. Nevermind is great, and sometimes it's what I need. But Gish, Nothing's Shocking, and Ritual is immaculate even today.
@@cliffrockalliance9071 Ehh.....gotta push back on that one. Mellon Collie was bloated for sure. It COULD have been a lean mean single album. But that didn't happen. However....Adore I think holds up, especially the first half. Daphne Descends and Appels + Oranges have such a cool shoegaze dream-pop thing going on. And don't get me started on Machina I & II....by FAR the most underrated shit they did. Those two albums are better than Adore or Mellon Collie imo. And they got basically zero respect or love.
Everything you said about Jane’s is completely spot on. They are one of the greatest bands ever. Three Days is arguably one of the best songs ever written. Nothings Shocking, the previous album, set the stage for the entirety of the 90s scene.
Thank you Bill! Couldn't agree more. I love Jane's. Got me through high school in the early 90s. I've ended up becoming good friends with Perkins and have watched him play many times at his house. The guy is not human. He is a metronome. He.Does.Not.Miss.A.Beat. Thank you for this and hopefully some new Jane's fans are made by you. Check out Stephen play drums this Monday night at the Mint with a new side band Hunnypot.
For Jane's fans, I'd like to recommend some stuff. If you haven't heard Deconstruction (Navarro/Avery side project), it's an interesting listen with some unique songwriting. Check out LA Song, which was the main single. For a band, I wish more people knew about Warrior Soul. The first 3 albums are pretty epic, with almost like a NYC version of Jane's style. A little harder around the edges, but still epic in spots. After the first 3 albums, they went more punk and these days the singer's voice is pretty much shot, but those first 3 (especially the 3rd, Salutations From The Ghetto Nation) are dear to my heart.
I totally agree Bill! I was at Janes Addiction concert in Chicago 1990 as a teenager in a small auditorium and they rocked!! The album put you in a cool Gypsy trance. Your awesome!
I remember where I first heard Jane’s Addiction, and I remember where I first heard Nirvana. Did I think that they would change the world? No. But I instantly knew that they kicked ass!
Rock was ready to get weird again in the late 80’s and very early 90’s. Faith No More, Jane’s Addiction, Alice in Chains, Living Colour, Rollins Band etc laid the groundwork. Nirvana just happened to come along at the right time and had songs that were just catchy enough but also angsty enough to tap into what young people were feeling at the time
Exactly. Nirvana had the timing. Of course they were a pretty great group, but to be completely honest it was just good timing. Every person you just mention were doing cool shit years before Nirvana released Bleach. Also, thanks for giving some Props to Rollins Band. They fucking rock.
I remember the first time I heard Ritual..a friend happened to have it playing one day....it blew my mind. I had no idea they were so good. All I knew of them at that point was Been Caught Stealing. I went right to the store after I left and bought the cd. Dave Navarro is so underrated imo, He's one of the most melodic guitarists around.
i feel this. we used to listen to music an album at a time, staring at the cd cover in awe. jane's addiction albums felt important, like you were witnessing something. and you were. it was a brief moment
Janes Addiction was and is a a phenomenal band. Steve Perkins is a amazing percussionist. They did a album on triple xxx records..It was before Nothing's Shocking. Covers of Lou Reeds Rock and roll + Stones Sympathy for the devil. Jane Says in rougher production. Bills correct. Perry and crew were WAY ahead of the times
Ken Ellis thankyou for the info. I live close to Toronto. 20 + yrs ago I seen them in a small club touring the Nothing's Shocking album. My age shows by using "album" I drove my girl nuts playing the entire album repeatedly. Standing in the shower lol
Agreed! I was in a punk band in 90 and the only thing close on the radio/mtv was Janes Addiction. Nothing's Shocking is one of my favorites of all time! It was fun trying to describe our music to family... sometimes we had to say it's something like EMF although that was an outright lie it was the closet you could get....
Judging by the first couple minutes he doesn't know what he is talking about. He is skeptical that Nevermind had a lot of hype around it - sorry, but many people DID see that coming. A lot of punks were bitching about them having an album coming out on Geffen, I distinctly remember reading an article before it came out in which it said "you could see the rock star waiting to come out" in Kurt. And of course his mother would think "this album will change your life." It's his mom, duh.
I think with the whole "we knew it before" nonsense he's right and I like Jane's Addiction - but Nevermind is clearly the better album. You have to look over all this hype and this idolatry from all the teen girls. It's just an incredible album.
Roland Deschain to each there own but Janes addiction is far better imo. In fact personally I think nirvana is highly overrated. Best thing to come from them was Dave Grohl.
De Lo Habitual was a life changer, my musical awakening and still gets spun. Heard a few songs but never listened to Nevermind all the way through, so there you go.
So on point, Jane's Addiction was an absolutely killer band with Ritual and Nothing's Shocking, for sure one of the best 90's bands up there with the Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden etc. A severely under-rated band, Bill is dead-on about the second side of ritual-de-habitual, its very hypnotic and calming. Really good guitar stuff.
For me I was introduced to Nirvana before Jane's Addiction. So I guess the reason why I prefer Nirvana simply was because they were my first band I listened to before Jane's Addiction. But the older I became Jane's Addiction was my Go to before Nirvana when I wanted to listen to music. I absolutely love both bands
I totally agree I was in college when Smells Like Teen Spirit came out. It was awesome and fun! But I had been in to James already and that kind of changed my world and how I looked at music. I don't mean to sound cliche and my life doesn't revolve around music. I definitely always liked the drums in Jane's Addiction. I always felt this guy must be like the greatest drummer in the world... I often go to sleep at night either listening to Jane's Addiction or Pink Floyd.
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Janes Addiction was doing 90's rock in the 80's. They deserve more respect for being ahead of the game. Good call BB.
SinkHollyWood 100% nailed it with this comment
I agree and nirvana was an 80s band originally too
Alternative rock was indeed going on in the 80's but Jane's Addiction kinda set the template
and how 'bout Hüsker Dü?
Jane's were the truth. They came in and paved the way... and no one was that weird. Love em!
Jane's Addiction is still criminally underrated.
Porno for Pyros too. That "Good God's Urge" album was great.
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“I don’t know if I’ll make it home tonight....”
Well said
Kurt Cobain said himself that has lyrics don't mean anyting. You just put random words together to happen to fit
Their biggest problem was staying together.
YES. I was already a fan of Bill Burr, but to know that he understands the importance of Jane's... #respect
Jane's Addiction is easily among the 5 greatest rock bands of all time. I don't meet many people who truly understand how great they were. ....much respect.
Top five? Fr? I mean I think Nirvana, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Stones, The Who are the 5
@@larryhmiller5336 Jane's Addiction are more original and innovative than all those bands except for The Beatles
Perry's vocals are so unique. I love Jane's... Idiots Rule.
@@larryhmiller5336 Yes. They're incredible.
They have some good songs and the vocals are good but I don't think they're one of the greatest still good though...
this doesn't get said enough but Eric Avery is one of the greatest and most underrated bass players ever. Especially on Ritual. That album changed my life and to this day I find it hard to find people that share that passion.
I learned to play bass with Eric.
Shout out to Eric.
If you're reading this: you rule man. Your solo stuff also is the shit and remains some of my favorite music ever.
Highly recomended.
OK Eric's Mom. But coming up with a few hooks is different than being a full time collaborator with a professional band. Eric dug his own grave using his ego as a shovel.
I feel exactly the same way about Eric Avery… My bass playing is also hugely influenced by him. Hey do you happen to live in Chicago if so lets jam!
three days bass is awesome
Hardly the greatest bass player lol jaco pastorious is the greatest..but Eric's playing on both albums are definitely a driving force but Jane's addiction are sum of all the parts..had one not been in the band we wouldn't be talking about them 30 yrs later lol
Yeah, he's got some beautiful lines. Naturally, he's not Jaco Pastorius, but as great as JP was, how awful would he be in Jane's Addiction? Eric A. was the perfect bass player for Jane's at the time and that part of their legacy wouldn't be the same without his melodic contributions. Check out Then She Did...
Bill Burr if you’re reading this, you are so goddamn right. Jane’s Addiction are THE most underrated rock band in history. And I like Nirvana but Nothing Shocking and Ritual De La Habitual smokes anything Nirvana did. It’s a whole other level!!!
How do you call a multi-platinum band worshipped by artists, fans and critics alike, as underrated? What an ignorant use of the term.
@@getit9066 King's X = underrated
It is criminal how little Jane's Addiction is recognized for how they lit it all off. No many other bands have had two masterpieces to start their career.
Ritual de lo habitual is up there with the best album's ever made.
maybe when I came to discover them, but Nothing's Shocking changed my life. So many amazing tracks on that album. Can't argue with Three Days being beyond comprehension...but still.
Nothing shocking blew me away too
Yes. Jane's Addiction. No band has ever sounded even similiar. Everything about them is so strange. The visuals of the band. The guitar solos of Dave Navarro that build on the concept of the space between..he hangs on notes or chords, he can shred but mostly flows like spirals if you close your eyes, to beats that are primal all with this solid bass stepping through it all. And Perry's vocals like captured thoughts dropped as echos that bend in harmony with my own thoughts. They are still a soundtrack of my life. Ritual is great and never sounds dated.
I love how you describe Dave's playing.
First time I heard the Three Days side I was frying hard on acid. That side had a profound affect on me. Still does.
Same.
their music really shines when your trippin'
dude.....me too! it was awesome!
I was just on weed and this song made me feel like I'm on acid , also rthen she did.
I was on NOTHING, but that side 2 did the same thing to my brain...mushrooms took root & grew, blossomed...all in my poor head.
Nothings shocking is equally perfect
YES! Nothing's Shocking is fantastic. Ritual is good, but..
nah...it's better
One of my all-time favorites. Desert island disc for me for sure. Love Ritual as well, but I like the flow of Shocking better. Ritual is divided by side, vinyl style. All the epic stuff is on side two.
Nothing's Shocking is s much better album
I agree, but in a different way. especially when considering side two of Ritual...but it's hard to compare genius to more genius. Ocean Size, Had a Dad, and Ted Just Admit it.... yeah, waaaay before it's time. From another world. :)
I always thought In Utero was miles ahead of Nevermind..
Totally agree
Totally disagree. But In Utero is a bit more poppy, so I can see the appeal.
@@twotonkatrucks In Utero is the poppy one?? I’ve never heard anything like Scentless Apprentice or Milk It playing on the radio but let me know what station you’re listening to if you have
@@georgeplunkitt5565 He must be talking about Scentless Apprentice, andcRadio Friendly Unit Shifter
@@twotonkatrucks you got them backwards my dude
Bill Burr has impeccable taste and nuance when talking this. He's on point with Rituale and PfP. That meditation story was beautiful. I legitimately want to try this given that second half of Ritual is everything to me. Huge part of my adolescence.
DUDE, 10000000000% agree. The most underrated band of all time. One of my fav Janes Addiction
Jane's Addiction was never meant to to be popular, but THANK GOD I HEARD IT!!!!!!! It changed my life.
a lot did, which was due to Nirvana popularizing that stuff in that era, Nevermind was the album that brought the underground to the mainstream.
Neither band was meant to be popular, but one they were it took off.
Been caught stealing was played non stop on mtv also
I saw ‘em a few weeks before Dave Navarro tried to decapitate Perry Farrell with his guitar for the first time. He’s done it a few times I believe!😆
They changed my life also. My non musician friends didn't get it. They were WAY ahead of the time. Perrys cover art was also truly ART
Perry also made WB finance his short movie "A Gift ".I have a original VHS TAPE of it. Time flies
I agree I remember as a kid having a choice between getting the Jane's addiction catalogue or nirvana and chose Janes addiction.
I have a new found respect and admiration for Bill now. He is truly enlightened
The killer thing about Jane's Addiction is they put out three great albums, organized Lollapalooza as their last tour, and then broke up. Epic!
I played Ritual De Lo Habitual way more than Nevermind.
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Me too
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Always and forever ♥
100% I actually can’t stand Nirvana.
@@ryanbrown3004 oof how so?
Finally someone giving Jane's some props. Thanks Bill.
I approve this message. Jane’s Addiction were fucking intense.
Jane's is underrated on every level. Completely original and groundbreaking. Grunge, to me anyway, sounds like regular rock recorded on a rainy Sunday in a moldy basement with a hangover. It has it's moments, but nothing I haven't heard before in some fashion.
God damnit! Just when I didn’t think I could like Bill Burr any more, he throws down some gem musical comparisons, right in line with my own thoughts and taste! Perrys lyrics in Of Course and Then She Did... Stephens drumming in Janes and in Porno For Pyros! Right the fuck on, Bill! Preach! No comparison for Nirvana!
what makes ritual even more amazing is that most of the songs were written years before it was even released. masterpiece
Both great albums, never knew Bill Burr was an intense music fan I like him even more now
Ritual is still in my top 5 albums of all time. I'm 45and have heard a LOT of records, and Ritual still holds up to the best of them.
Nirvana's music pulled you in with hypnotic melodies then hit you with heavy power chords and head banging rock. Jane's Addiction was more abstract and spiritual, but could also hit you with heavy shit like "mountain song". Both bands were great.
Faith no More was another band that I thought help change rock in the late 80s early 90s. 92's Angel Dust is one of my favorites.
Angel Dust rules. That is truly an amazing album.
Truth!!!! U rock🤘
One of my favorites too..fantastic album
i played the real thing so much, drove my friends nuts lol.
Any band that can give birth to the truly revolutionary Mr Bungle is alright by me.
This album...holy shit...THIS album!!.. This was the soundtrack to my summer of 91'. Not one bad track... all killer, no filler! Jane's Addiction is criminally underrated. The production on that album was 100% top notch. I can still smell the incense...
Man, I always felt so alone in my total appreciation of Jane’s Addiction! There were so many great alternative bands before Nirvana, they were just the ones that really hit the zeitgeist. And they were incredible, no doubt Kurt was a genius. I think mostly it’s because Jane’s crashed and burned right before Nirvana released Nevermind. If they’d have stuck around, who knows. Love both bands.
I don't agree Curt was a genius. Definitely not a hero. He gets way too much credit.
I saw Jane's in December of 1990 and Nirvana in October of 1991, both at First Ave in Minneapolis. Nirvana was great, Jane's Addiction was next level incredible. Still one of the best shows I've ever seen!
Janes Addiction was a force of nature from 87-91.
47 year old guys with worn out affliction t-shirts lol
This is my brother in law to a T. a worn affliction T.
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Haha so funny...I'm in my 20s and still love both bands though.
FUCKING FUNNY AF!!!
Jane's was untouchable 1989 - 1992 ... best band on the planet.
No one else was even close.
No one else has even come close since for me.
Saw them 5 times in all sorts of different venues.
The Ritz, NYC
MSG, NYC
2 shows days apart in Stanhope NJ on 1st LOLLAPALOOZA tour outside in a field.
And reunion of original line up at Jones Beach NY.
The Ritz show is the best concert I've ever been to EVER!
Jimmy Chamberlain on ‘Siamese Dream’, could hold his own and more here.
In a way, Jane's prepared me for the Pumpkins. Prior I was very much an 80s metsl kid. Gish fits with Jane's rather well IMO.
Gish was a much better album.
Siamese Dream and Gish are immaculate. Mellon Collie was bloated for sure. It COULD have been a lean mean single album. But that didn't happen.
However....Adore I think holds up, especially the first half. Daphne Descends and Appels + Oranges have such a cool shoegaze dream-pop thing going on. And don't get me started on Machina I & II....by FAR the most underrated shit they did. Those two albums are better than Adore or Mellon Collie imo. And they got basically zero respect or love.
@@avedic instead of making a double LP they should have made an EP. Billy had a big head, figuratively and literally
Jane's Addiction rules. There's a reason Flea played bass on one of their tours. He commented it was a blessing, a once in a life time opportunity.
I got Nevermind before Ritual, but when I got Ritual, I got Addicted to Jane's. They were truly the band of my youth. No band came close to 'em.
Thank's for this upload I discovered Janes's Addiction.
I was a kid from Northern Europe who got out of Soviet occupations at the beginning of the 90ies. We mostly got the Western mainstream things here back them. And Nirvana was one of them.
30 years later I discover this masterpiece. Huge-huge gratitude on my part to you, Uploader!
Ritual De Lo Habitual was a masterpiece!!!!
is, my friend, is a masterpiece.
Just stumbled across this. I grew up in Houston and went to UH my freshman year. Lived in a dorm on campus. It was mid-January...Sunday night...1989....and the Spring semester started the next day. I was in my dorm...bored out of my skull. Some friends who were still in high school called my dorm and said "Hey...go see this band with us at Numbers." (Iconic club that is still around today). "Who is the band?" ... "Jane's Addiction." ... "Never heard." .... "Trust us." "Ok how much to get in?" "$10." I had $10 to my name for the entire semester. I went to a local sketch convenience store and bought two 40 oz. malt liquors. After tax I had around $7.84 in my pocket. Slammed the 40's. They let me in. I was straight up blown away. By the band of course ... not the underpaid entry. Throughout the show I kept thinking "Who in the actual f*** are these guys? Just ...... WTF?" Had a job after class ... saved money ... and bought the Nothing's Shocking CD and then bought their actual first CD (self-titled all live on XXX records). Still two of my favorite listens to this day and I am 52 years old. I introduced my (now 17 and 19 year old) daughters to these albums a few years ago ... they have since introduced a ton of their friends ... and they are all in agreement in regard to the uniqueness of the sound. When Ritual hit I was now a junior in college at Southwest Texas State University (Party school!) I loved Ritual ... but now literally everyone, their dog, etc. knew Jane's Addiction. As such ... uniqueness (to me) was gone ... but all good and no biggie. I first heard Nirvana in the Fall of 1991. Blown away of course ... unique sound ... and they were on heavy rotation with our posse as well as rest of the nation ... but not the same "I randomly saw them before they blew up" experience. At any rate....glad I stumbled across this. Peace.
Never thought Bill Burr of all people would be a Jane's Addiction fan never mind (no pun intended) listening to Ritual de lo Habitual
Nothings Shocking I like even better. That record blew my mind at 16yrs old. And then life changer when I saw live in like 88 or 89 favorite band. As long as I don't see anything post breakup.
I love Jane's Addiction. Their first album was a live album. Their albums Nothing Shocking and Ritual De La Habitual were both great as well.
That 2nd part of Ritual is absolutely amazing. Great call
Eric avery’s bass playing on ritual is immense. Janes addiction and the pixies changed everything for me
I'm only 19 and can tell you that Jane's addiction was on another level with their creativity. But Nirvana is so attractive because of the attitude of Kurt
Perrys arrogance and kurts irony were legendary
Yeah I agree. Kurt Cobain was the mascot to go with the music which brought more appeal. Both good bands but yes, Jane's Addiction is quite underrated and needs more credit. Another band is Hüsker Dü
This is so on point, especially when he starts to talk about meditation to the second half of the album. It was almost a jaw drop moment for me because i used to do the same exact thing at night, not knowing what I was doing. Then once, when I was in high school and smoked weed for one of the first times ever, I remember listening to three days on the floor in my best friend's apartment. I just was lying face down, feeling the music in this way I never had before, when i started to feel like I was falling and melting with the music but in a very blissful way...until it reached almost EXACTLY the same point Bill mentions here, when he felt he would go out of body. I started crying and thought I had just descended so far down into the floor that I was dead or in some kind of void space. It sounds really odd, and lame, like typical stoner kid type stuff, but it is one of the most poignant and vivid memories I have of an experience like that. To this day, I will always regard Ritual de lo Habitual as one of my top three favorite pieces of music ever (esp that second side, but the whole thing is great). Nothing Shocking and the self titled album are amazing too, in different ways, but this was a very special album. Truly. And Bill is right about how unique it was not only at the time it came out, but it withstands the test of time. It's been a while since I've given it a listen. I think I will tonight. :)
I felt the same way, on zero drugs. Always thought the album should've been released as 2 EPs, side 1 & side 2...totally different sounding.
When I first heard INXS's Kick album I thought "This is what the 90's are going to sound like." Then I had the same thought when I heard REM's Green. Then Sonic Youth's Goo. Then Nirvana's Nevermind, which really did feel, for me, more revolutionary than the others. I discovered Jane's Addiction's Nothing's Shocking and Primus' Sailing the Seas of Cheese, etc., a year or two late, and totally love those albums, but missed out on hearing them in their precise contemporary cultural context. Then Kurt abruptly checked out before the audience could bore of it, and most late 90's music sucked, which served to cement my personal impression of Nirvana's premier cultural importance among their contemporaries. I think my teenager hormones helped with that, too. I listen to Nevermind now, and while it's a good album, the emotional profundity of it is only an intellectual memory now.
I have good memories of listening to Kick.
I remember thinking that same thing about Kick & Violator...& then being dead wrong by the fall of 1991, lol. BTW, check out the tribute act KICK: The INXS Experience. Fantastic band!!
Dude you should write articles or something this is very well writen and articulated
It’s always good to play nevermind to someone whose never heard it before and it’ll blow them away. As long as there into guitar music though.
Damn Bill, i'm with you in this one
Then She Did is one of my favourite songs of all time.
Brilliant epic
Totally agree and have thought the same thing myself. Siamese Dream and Ritual are easily among the best alt albums of the 90s. They are simply far more musical.
Gonz Wouldgo anything by pavement spanks the smashing pumpkins like a red-headed stepchild
Siamese Dream? SP were legitimate only with Gish and Lull. Siamese Dream was aimed right at top 40 radio and marks the time SP sold out. Their latest stuff is appalling.
Gish
Maybe it's just me being an Elitist, but as a Nirvana fan, Nevermind is my least favourite album
Bill, you are correct sir! I respect you even more because of this bit.
Three days is amazing
Jojo_Mchale all rdlh is amazing
That song shook me to my core when I first heard it
portalsofmadnes there’s no song from janes addiction I dislike, they’re freaking musical geniuses
Jojo_Mchale the best
Love the bass line
Nice take on Jane's Addiction! My introduction to them was after "Nothing's Shocking" came out. My Dad apparently read a review of the album in Playboy and bought it for me for Christmas. Nice present to open Christmas Day with the whole family there and CDs still being a new sorta thing. "A CD? Let me see that." Okay Grandma, here you go, disregard the naked Siamese twins with their hair on fire! Anyway, I was a fan from the first listen. Ritual is an amazing album - totally agree with Bill about Side 2. I think "Strays" is a very underrated album from them.
He's exactly right here......those first few Jane's albums were surreal they were so good
the early 90s were a very special time for music. Jane's Addiction and Smashing Pumpkins made some killer records, I still have that on my phone now.
i liked them all. but SOUNDGARDENS MADMOTERFINGER was my FAVE.
Alex Spots Wood you are aware that auto complete regularly fucks people over, no?
The 2 disc version with the Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas EP was the first CD I ever bought (previously was buying all cassettes). Alice In Chains' Sap was my second (local stores only had it on CD).
That album truly is the greatest to come out of Seattle or even whole 90s if you ask me
AMEN!!!
Jane's Addiction is one of the top 5 bands of all time always and forever ... ❤
Janes hit me way harder than anything else at the time - it was alien music, I remember thinking.
100% agree. Jane's is more of what speaks to me, which is why I can listen to the songs hundreds of times
I love that bill burr seemingly has the same taste in music as I do
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I like that he feels the same way about tattoo’s as I do...
ikr?
My first acid trip involved listening to 3 Days... I had to play it twice to make sure it was as epic as I thought it was the first time, and it was. I remember drawing a lot while listening to the second side of Ritual.... Can't agree more... This album smokes 'Nevermind'. As well, Smashing Pumpkins 'Gish' came out on the same day as Nevermind. Had Nevermind not come out, Gish would have been the big album that year... sad because Nevermind overshadowed Gish and most people don't know shit about that album, all they know is everything after that stupid Today song.
3 Days was our go to while tripping. That song got played on repeat. It still rocks!
'Gish' is an under-rated and amazing album,
especially the song 'Crush'.
lmao, burr is a genius. I couldn't agree more.
I love both, Janes Addiction and Nirvana...have beautiful, crazy memories with both , an amazing, out of control time in my life ill never forget!
Nothing's Shocking was even better. Jane's Addiction was incredible.
mark reynolds XXX
E.P. James MacAdams For sure. He should definitely be comparing Nothing's Shocking to Nevermind..I think ritual is a way overrated album that just ride the coat tales of Nothing's Shocking.
STOP...my fav song of all time. freshman year in hs.
Chuck M overrated? I am sure there are a lot of people that agree with you that Nothing Shocking is superior. I am just not one of them. The "second side" of Ritual is a fucking masterpiece in my opinion. That is not based off anyone's hype or reviews or what my friends think, so I refuse to accept that it is overrated. Both are great albums, just because they had some mainstream success because of the mtv video for stealing, no need to play too cool for school, I was there before these posers and slag off such a great album. But you are entitled to your own opinion.
Jason Elliott 1st side Nothing's with 2nd side Ritual.
When I heard Jane's "Three Days" ... I was like "What the fuck?!" for three days.
It's been over three decades and it's still my favorite song!
I haven't listen to Ritual De Lo Habitual in years. But I'm revisiting it now, and I remember every guitar lick, every drum fill, bass line, crazy weird vocals, changes ups. The clove cigarettes my friends smoked in the car with the windows closed. My heart is sinking from getting dumped. I'm pretty lucky to have been a teen when it was popular and to have these memories attached to it. Nevermind became the game changer because Teen Spirit was the antithesis of Glam Rock and received insane airtime on MTV, and the execs and think tanks anticipated the new market. Plus, Perry is about as marketable as a bag of used coat hangers.
Jane's Addiction's "Nothing Shocking" is what finally opened things up and created that crossover of "underground" music and commercial music. Nothing's Shocking just broke things open for punk and metal to be more accepted by more people. Everytime I see articles or hear people talk about how Nirvana changed the face of music, I just shake my head. Jane's Addiction was a giant turning point in music and helped pave the way for bands like Nirvana.. And then Perry Farrell created Lolapolooza, which just seemed so appropriate for him to do since it involved bringing all types of music together to be enjoyed and appreciated by everyone.
Jane's Addiction IMO is one of the best bands of all time.
Ritual De Lo Habitual was probably the best album of the 90s. And the decade had just begun.
Jane's Addiction and Pixies were phenomenal bands that sometimes don't get the respect they deserve
Throw Smashing Pumpkins' Gish in there. It was released a few months before Nevermind and IMO is a better album. Jimmy Chamberlin for the win.
Yes!
Nevermind is excellent...even perfect.
But.....The first two Janes albums and Gish......hold up better in the long run imo. I still regularly listen to those albums.
Nevermind is great, and sometimes it's what I need. But Gish, Nothing's Shocking, and Ritual is immaculate even today.
Yes! The last good Pumpkins album!
@@cliffrockalliance9071 Ehh.....gotta push back on that one. Mellon Collie was bloated for sure. It COULD have been a lean mean single album. But that didn't happen.
However....Adore I think holds up, especially the first half. Daphne Descends and Appels + Oranges have such a cool shoegaze dream-pop thing going on. And don't get me started on Machina I & II....by FAR the most underrated shit they did. Those two albums are better than Adore or Mellon Collie imo. And they got basically zero respect or love.
My all time favorite drummer.
I'll never forget getting turned on to Gish. I actually had a cassette - Gish on one side, Nevermind on the other!
Nirvana and Jane's Addiction are both awesome
yup
yep, but Jane's is better.
@West Bay K. 😆😆
Everything you said about Jane’s is completely spot on. They are one of the greatest bands ever. Three Days is arguably one of the best songs ever written. Nothings Shocking, the previous album, set the stage for the entirety of the 90s scene.
Thank you Bill! Couldn't agree more. I love Jane's. Got me through high school in the early 90s. I've ended up becoming good friends with Perkins and have watched him play many times at his house. The guy is not human. He is a metronome. He.Does.Not.Miss.A.Beat.
Thank you for this and hopefully some new Jane's fans are made by you.
Check out Stephen play drums this Monday night at the Mint with a new side band Hunnypot.
Jane’s Addiction is in my top three favourite bands ever. They’re still ahead of their time today. Freakin’ amazing!
Absolutely criminally underrated.
For Jane's fans, I'd like to recommend some stuff. If you haven't heard Deconstruction (Navarro/Avery side project), it's an interesting listen with some unique songwriting. Check out LA Song, which was the main single.
For a band, I wish more people knew about Warrior Soul. The first 3 albums are pretty epic, with almost like a NYC version of Jane's style. A little harder around the edges, but still epic in spots. After the first 3 albums, they went more punk and these days the singer's voice is pretty much shot, but those first 3 (especially the 3rd, Salutations From The Ghetto Nation) are dear to my heart.
kitoyobeni1 Deconstruction was the shit! Amen bro!
That album is absolutely amazing!!!!! Some of the tracks were actually scraps from potential songs for the 4th JA album🤙
Huge fan of the Deconstruction album!
I totally agree Bill! I was at Janes Addiction concert in Chicago 1990 as a teenager in a small auditorium and they rocked!! The album put you in a cool Gypsy trance. Your awesome!
profound album . recall a great teen couch Trip with Ritual on repeat in the 90s
I saw Jane's at the Palladium in LA in the RdlH tour and it was magic. That band had something no other band had or will ever have.
I remember where I first heard Jane’s Addiction, and I remember where I first heard Nirvana. Did I think that they would change the world? No. But I instantly knew that they kicked ass!
Rock was ready to get weird again in the late 80’s and very early 90’s. Faith No More, Jane’s Addiction, Alice in Chains, Living Colour, Rollins Band etc laid the groundwork. Nirvana just happened to come along at the right time and had songs that were just catchy enough but also angsty enough to tap into what young people were feeling at the time
Exactly. Nirvana had the timing. Of course they were a pretty great group, but to be completely honest it was just good timing. Every person you just mention were doing cool shit years before Nirvana released Bleach. Also, thanks for giving some Props to Rollins Band. They fucking rock.
Thank you for turning me into Janes Addiction. I cant stop listening to their album I mean as soon as the song Stop started it blew my mind away!
Hell, I had no idea this video would have done that for anyone! Enjoy what I consider to be one of the greatest bands in rock history.
@@illlogic1016 Thanks for posting it you opened my ears for some great music and I agree with Bill 100% about Nurvana and Janes addiction.
Do yourself a favour and listen to Kettle Whistle. A great live and rare collection of JA at their peak.
@@domenicgalata1470 I'll check it out
I remember the first time I heard Ritual..a friend happened to have it playing one day....it blew my mind. I had no idea they were so good. All I knew of them at that point was Been Caught Stealing. I went right to the store after I left and bought the cd. Dave Navarro is so underrated imo, He's one of the most melodic guitarists around.
YESSSS!!! FINALLY Janes Addiction always forever over Nevermind
i feel this. we used to listen to music an album at a time, staring at the cd cover in awe. jane's addiction albums felt important, like you were witnessing something. and you were. it was a brief moment
Listened to Ritual way more than anything Nirvana at the time. I love your take on the album and agree.
The editing in this is actually really well done. When he talks about meditating and the song comes on is perfect.
Thanks!
Janes Addiction was and is a a phenomenal band. Steve Perkins is a amazing percussionist. They did a album on triple xxx records..It was before Nothing's Shocking. Covers of Lou Reeds Rock and roll + Stones Sympathy for the devil. Jane Says in rougher production. Bills correct. Perry and crew were WAY ahead of the times
That was a live album....recorded at CBGB’s.
Ken Ellis thankyou for the info. I live close to Toronto. 20 + yrs ago I seen them in a small club touring the Nothing's Shocking album. My age shows by using "album" I drove my girl nuts playing the entire album repeatedly. Standing in the shower lol
@@kenellis2035 The Roxy
Agreed! I was in a punk band in 90 and the only thing close on the radio/mtv was Janes Addiction.
Nothing's Shocking is one of my favorites of all time!
It was fun trying to describe our music to family... sometimes we had to say it's something like EMF although that was an outright lie it was the closet you could get....
Probably the best Bill Burr I've ever heard, I couldn't agree with him any more than on this. Thanks for the share.
I don't agree with Bill Burr on everything. Jane's Addiction nailed it with this album! Good call, Bill.
Judging by the first couple minutes he doesn't know what he is talking about. He is skeptical that Nevermind had a lot of hype around it - sorry, but many people DID see that coming. A lot of punks were bitching about them having an album coming out on Geffen, I distinctly remember reading an article before it came out in which it said "you could see the rock star waiting to come out" in Kurt. And of course his mother would think "this album will change your life." It's his mom, duh.
I think with the whole "we knew it before" nonsense he's right and I like Jane's Addiction - but Nevermind is clearly the better album.
You have to look over all this hype and this idolatry from all the teen girls. It's just an incredible album.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Roland Deschain to each there own but Janes addiction is far better imo. In fact personally I think nirvana is highly overrated. Best thing to come from them was Dave Grohl.
De Lo Habitual was a life changer, my musical awakening and still gets spun. Heard a few songs but never listened to Nevermind all the way through, so there you go.
2nd side of Ritual...really, bill? That's exactly what I would do. 'Then she did' best track of JA ever!
Janes Addiction’s first album “Nothings Shocking” came out in 1988. That record single handedly changed everything! Long before grunge et al
So on point, Jane's Addiction was an absolutely killer band with Ritual and Nothing's Shocking, for sure one of the best 90's bands up there with the Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden etc. A severely under-rated band, Bill is dead-on about the second side of ritual-de-habitual, its very hypnotic and calming. Really good guitar stuff.
I saw Smashing Pumpkins open for Jane's at the Aragon Ballroom in 1996, with Flea on bass. Much as I love the Pumpkins, Jane's was the better band.
For me I was introduced to Nirvana before Jane's Addiction. So I guess the reason why I prefer Nirvana simply was because they were my first band I listened to before Jane's Addiction.
But the older I became Jane's Addiction was my Go to before Nirvana when I wanted to listen to music.
I absolutely love both bands
Jane's addiction absolutely fucking rocked it!
Excellent. I couldn't agree more! Love ya Bill, cheers...love the drummer talk too...Perkins is a beast!
Jane’s Addiction all day. Every one of their albums runs circles around Nevermind.
I totally agree I was in college when Smells Like Teen Spirit came out. It was awesome and fun! But I had been in to James already and that kind of changed my world and how I looked at music. I don't mean to sound cliche and my life doesn't revolve around music. I definitely always liked the drums in Jane's Addiction. I always felt this guy must be like the greatest drummer in the world... I often go to sleep at night either listening to Jane's Addiction or Pink Floyd.