I am enjoying your learning process. The breed of cattle I grew up raising is not the same animal that it used to be. My father had Angus that were about 800pound cow that had a calf every year without any thing more than a trace mineral salt block,today’s supposed Angus I have seen can be 1600 pounds big boned that needs protein tubs and a bunch of extra imports to come in season and calf. Not for me, my dad had a saying ( the more you put into something the more you have to get out of it!) just my feelings.
Hey John, I always look forward to your comments as you always share some wisdom & knowledge! I have come across a Bonsmara breeder who has decreased his frame size and started breeding a better "type" for grass efficiency. I hope he allows me to do a piece on his cattle! It's sad that many breeders started chasing frame size at the cost of functional efficiency!
Learned something new, thank you man. Let me share my thoughts or more precisely, what I'm planning/thinking to do. Please note I'm just a guy in his mid twenties working a general job, have no practical experience with cows and most of the information I learned about cattle comes from various places. So I am bound to be wrong in some things. I plan to be a small scale commercial cattle farmer. It is far more economically realistic that I will be able to acquire a farm with small acreage (probably between 12 to 21 hectors, if I get a good deal and the bank approves my loan). Not a fan of leasing as I prefer to own and communal land brings too many problems. Meaning I might be able to sustain 5 to 12 heads of cattle . I prefer small framed cattle with good temperament and a bit of meat in them. The Ngunis have the good temperament and the ability to thrive in dismal pastures. Could do well in our North West dry climate. But I still want a bit of body, meaning a Nguni mix is a good option. I heard good things about the Dexter's ability to thrive in good grass. A good 75%Nguni ×25%Dexter / Shorthorn seems good. With that they might be able to do well in feedlots and also be able maintain their body condition on pasture. Any pointers?
Hi Mike, Sounds like you have a plan! Whatever your combination you might want to keep carcass size in mind. I don't know if your market has any carcass requirements but over here you geta penalised if your carcass is less than 180kg. So if you don't have similar restrictions then I think your plans are good! Good luck and keep me posted.
thank you so much for the free education just a small question if i wanna transition from medium framed cattle to larger framed is it advisable to use a bigger bull or just buy larger framed cattle?
Hi Ntebogang, You could buy a larger bull providing the cows have well sloped rumps for easy calving. The bigger question though is why would you want to increase frame size?
Hallo oom Sommer net n vra, maar nie heeltemal verwant aan wat in die video gedeel was nie. Is daar enige mark aanwysings wat die waarde van koeie, speenkalwers en vleisprys oor n paar jaar aandui? Ek weet die pryse is maar baie wisselvallig, markgedrewe en ook aan die seisoen gekoppel. Wat het die mark oor 10 jaar gedoen en hoe lyk die volgende 10 jaar? Ek probeer n besigheids plan opstel en dit is moeilik om die waarde van n koeie, speenkalf oor n paar jaar was te stel. Ek wil dit ook in berekening hou want dit dra by tot die waarde van die belegging. Ek het so bietjie navorsing probeer doen maar kan nie regtig n goeie antwoord kry nie. Dankie
Choosing the Breeder: There is a chance that u will rely on a breeder reference due to constraints i.e., distance/time. But beware of biased cross-references. I recently bought heifers from a breeder whom I understood to be extensive farmer and ruthless in selection. It was a red flag when he told me to “take good care of them because they r 1st time calfers”. I followed up if that meant “improving their plane of nutrition”? He never got back & i am sure to avoid his stock in future. Clearly some breeders have no skin in the game! They pay lip service to extensive farming. I look to see how they will adapt & perform in my system.
Hey Leonard, I hear you! It's interesting how people often don't do the legwork when taking such a big decision. I understand that there may be constraints and challenges sometimes but it's such a critical decision that one must really try and see the breeder before hand.
Hi Munya, How long is a piece of string? Sounds like a stupid question - but my point is that there is no single answer! Growth is a factor of nutrition and genetics. The available grazing that you have will determine the best genetics for your conditions. If you have VERY good grazing then the more popular breeds will work well. If not - then the indigenous breeds will be better. It's all about your grazing and conditions. Sorry I can't give you a better answer.
Please share the presentation is very informative.
Loaded. "both absorbing and fascinating " Many thanks for sharing.
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Very very informative. Always educating me. Thank you always.
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@shanecotty3275 Dankie 🙏
I am enjoying your learning process. The breed of cattle I grew up raising is not the same animal that it used to be. My father had Angus that were about 800pound cow that had a calf every year without any thing more than a trace mineral salt block,today’s supposed Angus I have seen can be 1600 pounds big boned that needs protein tubs and a bunch of extra imports to come in season and calf. Not for me, my dad had a saying ( the more you put into something the more you have to get out of it!) just my feelings.
Hey John,
I always look forward to your comments as you always share some wisdom & knowledge!
I have come across a Bonsmara breeder who has decreased his frame size and started breeding a better "type" for grass efficiency.
I hope he allows me to do a piece on his cattle!
It's sad that many breeders started chasing frame size at the cost of functional efficiency!
@ If I have anything to add to the conversation it’s because of people like my father and some of his friends that passed on things to me.
Great video,What about the hip bones should a bull have the same width or smaller like in humans?
Hi Jack,
A bull should be narrow in the hips - broad in the shoulder - same as humans.
Very informative and thought provoking thank you Shane. Would it be possible to share this presentation with us ?
Hi Ignitius,
I'm more than happy to do so - but it's a fairly large file....
Drop me your e-mail adress and I'll try and mail it to you.
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Thank you! 😃
Learned something new, thank you man.
Let me share my thoughts or more precisely, what I'm planning/thinking to do.
Please note I'm just a guy in his mid twenties working a general job, have no practical experience with cows and most of the information I learned about cattle comes from various places. So I am bound to be wrong in some things.
I plan to be a small scale commercial cattle farmer. It is far more economically realistic that I will be able to acquire a farm with small acreage (probably between 12 to 21 hectors, if I get a good deal and the bank approves my loan). Not a fan of leasing as I prefer to own and communal land brings too many problems. Meaning I might be able to sustain 5 to 12 heads of cattle . I prefer small framed cattle with good temperament and a bit of meat in them. The Ngunis have the good temperament and the ability to thrive in dismal pastures. Could do well in our North West dry climate. But I still want a bit of body, meaning a Nguni mix is a good option. I heard good things about the Dexter's ability to thrive in good grass. A good 75%Nguni ×25%Dexter / Shorthorn seems good. With that they might be able to do well in feedlots and also be able maintain their body condition on pasture.
Any pointers?
Hi Mike,
Sounds like you have a plan! Whatever your combination you might want to keep carcass size in mind. I don't know if your market has any carcass requirements but over here you geta penalised if your carcass is less than 180kg. So if you don't have similar restrictions then I think your plans are good!
Good luck and keep me posted.
Great presentation. Looking forward to the cow one😊
Thanks Andrew, I hope to drop it next week.
Very powerful 👏
Thanks!
thank you so much for the free education
just a small question
if i wanna transition from medium framed cattle to larger framed is it advisable to use a bigger bull or just buy larger framed cattle?
Hi Ntebogang,
You could buy a larger bull providing the cows have well sloped rumps for easy calving. The bigger question though is why would you want to increase frame size?
Hallo oom
Sommer net n vra, maar nie heeltemal verwant aan wat in die video gedeel was nie.
Is daar enige mark aanwysings wat die waarde van koeie, speenkalwers en vleisprys oor n paar jaar aandui?
Ek weet die pryse is maar baie wisselvallig, markgedrewe en ook aan die seisoen gekoppel.
Wat het die mark oor 10 jaar gedoen en hoe lyk die volgende 10 jaar?
Ek probeer n besigheids plan opstel en dit is moeilik om die waarde van n koeie, speenkalf oor n paar jaar was te stel. Ek wil dit ook in berekening hou want dit dra by tot die waarde van die belegging.
Ek het so bietjie navorsing probeer doen maar kan nie regtig n goeie antwoord kry nie.
Dankie
Hallo Johan,
Ek sal kyk of ek so iets kan kry.... Dis noggal 'n uitdaging om so iets aan te pak want die mark is vreeslik wisselvallig!
Sterke met daai een
Hi Shane, regarding your own breeding goals, are you looking at establishing a brand new composite breed that can be its own registered breed?
Hi Hlayise,
No - I don't intend on registering my own breed as such. I just want to breed a Veldmaster composite that ticks all my boxes.
Please share your presentation
Hi,
I'm happy to do so but it's nearly 3GB.
Choosing the Breeder: There is a chance that u will rely on a breeder reference due to constraints i.e., distance/time. But beware of biased cross-references. I recently bought heifers from a breeder whom I understood to be extensive farmer and ruthless in selection. It was a red flag when he told me to “take good care of them because they r 1st time calfers”. I followed up if that meant “improving their plane of nutrition”? He never got back & i am sure to avoid his stock in future. Clearly some breeders have no skin in the game! They pay lip service to extensive farming. I look to see how they will adapt & perform in my system.
Hey Leonard,
I hear you! It's interesting how people often don't do the legwork when taking such a big decision. I understand that there may be constraints and challenges sometimes but it's such a critical decision that one must really try and see the breeder before hand.
Hallo there I sell to a Meat company steers of 16 months they buy Live weight I wanna know which breed can give me the best weights at 16 months
Hi Munya,
How long is a piece of string?
Sounds like a stupid question - but my point is that there is no single answer!
Growth is a factor of nutrition and genetics. The available grazing that you have will determine the best genetics for your conditions. If you have VERY good grazing then the more popular breeds will work well. If not - then the indigenous breeds will be better. It's all about your grazing and conditions. Sorry I can't give you a better answer.
Put your mic closer. Sounds it to Low
Thanks James, I'll check that next time!
cheers to moee 😂😂
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People charge mega bucks for this kind of information.
I'm just sharing what I picked up on TH-cam myself! But thanks!