The Catholic Viewpoint on Men and Women
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- In the 80s and 90s, Americans responded to the disparity between men and women in the workplace with a simple solution: make women more like men.
In direct response, Pope (Saint) John Paul II identified and proclaimed what he called "the feminine genius"-all of the particular ways in which women are a gift to the world, and the "piece of humanity" we'd be losing if we asked them to "be more like men."
Lisa Cotter, acclaimed author of Reveal the Gift: Living the Feminine Genius (ascensionpress...) is here to give us the big picture on the Catholic Church's teaching on men and women.
Stick around and find out if there's a "masculine genius" as well! Bobby Angel sure hopes so... 🤞
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"Each person lives their genius uniquely." Preach it, my sister in Christ!
John 5 KJV
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
1 John 5 KJV
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
1 Peter 3 KJV
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Peter 3 KJV
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
Ephesians 1 KJV
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
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2 Peter 2 KJV
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Acts 20 KJV
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
✝️ Gospel 🩸
1 Corinthians 1 KJV
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 15 KJV
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Romans 3 KJV
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
✝️sealed✝️
Ephesians 1 KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
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2 Corinthians 4 KJV
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
1 Corinthians 15 KJV
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
2 Thessalonians 1 KJV
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Romans 2 KJV
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
"God wants us to become more of who we are, not a stereotype of ourselves." ❤️
Thanks for making this! I've been wondering a lot about what defines masculinity and femininity recently. I've found it really hard! They are both clearly recognisable but when ppl try to describe them they're often reduced to stereotypes that make ppl feel insecure for stuff that is just part of their personality and are clearly not imperfections or sin. This was helpful! Thanks! I think its an extremely important topic given the rise of gender dysmorphia
I appreciated what you said at 8:35 that God wants us to become more of who we are and not a stereotype.
1 Peter 3 KJV
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Peter 1 KJV
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
1 John 1 KJV
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Ephesians 1 KJV
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
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1 John 5 KJV
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Thank you for creating this video. It sparked a thought that here in 2023, imagine you are a 10 or 15 year old boy. What has that young man seen expressed in the public square, in movies, TV or music that outwardly celebrates boyhood? Just about nothing but lots about toxic manhood, lots of content on women can do everything men can do, women's marches, etc. Today's boy hears very little if anything from the world around him that tells him he has unique GOOD things to bring to society and culture. Both have unique gifts and are complimentary. When boys hear women can do everything men can do just as well, be careful. That young man hears "you bring nothing unique to the world" and that brings despair, meaningless, fear of expressing "the protector" . You can't even hold the door for a woman without risking scorn and an attitude of "I can do that myself". Celebrate the complimentary nature God gave us and while also allowing individuals to share or cross over responsibilities as they cooperatively choose.
It would be a really interesting conversation on this subject with Jonathan Pageau!
If you want a book on the masculine genius, read “The case for Patriarchy” by Timmothy Gordon.
Great book that all strong Catholic men should read.
Never heard of this before. The title alone is so anti-politically correct it is intriguing. Definitely will take a look at it
I am a half-Biafran-American and half-Kenyan-American Catholic Male living in Massachusetts. I write this question with little advantages in life-nonetheless-I persist. Could you please do a post on how Black Men and I stress Black Men should never use racism and prejudice as a scapegoat for failure? Racism and prejudice to me as a Black Man are no longer excuses for failure.
I think you mean "black Americans". Because blacks in biafraland don't go about complaining about racism. Failure and success have a range of meanings for different reasons but success in God's eyes starts with repentance. If you look at Jesus, you can see that he wasn't successful by our market economy standards. He didn't even have a bed to sleep on.
You’re not American. You’re an African living on this land. I would say it’s bad for anyone to blame someone/something outside themselves for their own faults or shortcomings.
My faith is being tested. I’m so weary. But I will continue to trust in God. I get put down and harassed by fellow christians for sharing my testimony. I only share for prayers and encouragement. Please pray for me. Since covid I fell on a terrible hardship, like many others. I lost my job for declining the vaccine. I declined due to my health conditions. I suffer from lupus, and heart disease. I’m now waitressing but not making nearly enough to get by. I’m a single mom, my husband is with God. My children are autistic and non verbal, I’m overwhelmed because they demand so much from me. I recently started homeschooling them because they were having so many issues in school. I’m tired of struggling every month. I’m striving to afford the tools I need to homeschool my children but I’m falling short. But I trust in you Jesus even as I struggle providing groceries for my family I’m ashamed. I feel like a failure. Jesus hear my prayers. Prayers are all I need. Thank you Lord! I know you will provide! Faith over fear!
You will make it through it. I was having an incredibly hard time with my faith during Covid, and now I've never been stronger in it. Life has ups and downs and even though we will never know the reasoning for our suffering until we see God face to face, because we have hope in that we must keep pushing forward. You have my prayers.
May God bless you ❤️
I’m so sorry. My heart breaks for you. You are so beloved to God. I will pray for you and your family. Please hang in and be assured in God’s love and goodness. I am fatherless and He has proven His Word to me in many doubts that He is a Father to the fatherless. He is the defender of the widow and He will not see you orphaned. May God bless you abundantly and hold your heart so close to His. Be assured of my prayers. His mercy is with you.
Stop taking advantage of kind-hearted people with this post. I have seen it soooo many times on multiple channels for months now.
You get no lovin from me
Praying ❤
So timely in this age.
I want to be charitable and understand there were some good ideas shared in the video (e.g. trying to understand the opposite gender better so we can better serve each other). However, there is also so much muddying of the waters in modern discourse surrounding the nature of gender that this video seemed to fall right into, as well. The video started out talking about complementarity and the need for women to NOT act like men, but then descended into so much talk about how we shouldn't be pigeonholed into gender stereotypes and how women can do all kinds of things that are traditionally thought of as masculine. Again, I realize they are trying to be nuanced, but in reality, this kind of nuance doesn't work in light of the teleological moral order.
I fear the world is so disordered right now because of all the drastic changes we made through the feminization of the world and we are timid to teach was is plainly obvious from natural law, the Bible, and historical Church teaching. Just look at how many women work full-time away from the home while the kids are in daycare (taking on man's role to provide while failing to fulfill the maternal role by having day care raise their children), how late people get married (close to 30) and how few kids we have (less than 2 per family), how many violent sports women play (e.g. boxing, mma, wresteling, etc.), the utter fear we have to talk about man's authority in marriage, or the lack of clear teaching of the marital debt with the conjugal union.
The world is so disordered! These gender dysphoric examples above are all things that stem from feminism's agendas and the inability to teach the clear teleological roles of the human person for men and women and what the Bible and the Church taught so clearly for all of human history until the 1970s.
For an example of clear teaching on just one of these topics, here are a sample of Church teaching on the dangers of women trying to be men and working away from the family:
Dear Newlyweds. by Pope Pius XII (1939-1944)
"Is it not an ageless truth-a truth rooted in the very physical conditions of a woman's life, an inexorable truth proclaimed not only by the experience of distant centuries but also of those more recent in our era of consuming industrialization, of seeking for vindication, of competitive sport-that the woman makes the home and takes care of it and that the man can never replace her in this? This is the mission which nature and her union with man has imposed upon her for the good of society itself. Entice her away, lure her far from her family with one of those many attractions that vie to overcome and conquer, and you will see the woman leave her family hearth untended. Without this fire, the atmosphere of the home grows cold. For all practical purposes the home will cease to exist and will be transformed into a precarious refuge of a few hours. The center of daily life will move elsewhere for the husband, for herself, and for the children."
Dear Newlyweds. by Pope Pius XII (1939-1944)
"Present living conditions resulting from today's economic and social status, due to the custom in the professions, arts and crafts of accepting men and women in workshops, offices and various employments, tend to engender and introduce on a practical scale a broad parity between the activities of a woman and those of a man, so that husbands and wives very often find themselves in a situation that almost approaches equality. Frequently a husband and wife practice similar professions and contribute an almost equal amount to the family budget through personal effort. Yet because of this same work they come to lead lives quite independent from each other.
Meanwhile, how are the children whom God sends them to be cared for, protected, educated, and instructed? You see them-we would not say abandoned-but very frequently entrusted to strange hands from their first years, formed and guided more by others than by their own mother who is far away from them practicing her profession. Is it any wonder that the sense of family authority begins to weaken and, as it loses hold, gradually disappears entirely, since the father's control and the mother's care are inadequate to create a happy and loving family life?"
Rerum Novarum, published on May 15, 1891:
Women, again, are not suited for certain occupations; a woman is by nature fitted for home-work, and it is that which is best adapted at once to preserve her modesty and to promote the good bringing up of children and the well-being of the family.
Quadragesimo Anno, promulgated in 1931:
In the first place, the worker must be paid a wage sufficient to support him and his family.[46] That the rest of the family should also contribute to the common support, according to the capacity of each, is certainly right, as can be observed especially in the families of farmers, but also in the families of many craftsmen and small shopkeepers. But to abuse the years of childhood and the limited strength of women is grossly wrong. Mothers, concentrating on household duties, should work primarily in the home or in its immediate vicinity. It is an intolerable abuse, and to be abolished at all cost, for mothers on account of the father’s low wage to be forced to engage in gainful occupations outside the home to the neglect of their proper cares and duties, especially the training of children.
Casti Cannubii
...social, inasmuch as the wife being freed from the cares of children and family, should, to the neglect of these, be able to follow her own bent and devote herself to business and even public affairs; finally economic, whereby the woman even without the knowledge and against the wish of her husband may be at liberty to conduct and administer her own affairs, giving her attention chiefly to these rather than to children, husband and family.
75. This, however, is not the true emancipation of woman, nor that rational and exalted liberty which belongs to the noble office of a Christian woman and wife; it is rather the debasing of the womanly character and the dignity of motherhood, and indeed of the whole family, as a result of which the husband suffers the loss of his wife, the children of their mother, and the home and the whole family of an ever watchful guardian. More than this, this false liberty and unnatural equality with the husband is to the detriment of the woman herself, for if the woman descends from her truly regal throne to which she has been raised within the walls of the home by means of the Gospel, she will soon be reduced to the old state of slavery (if not in appearance, certainly in reality) and become as amongst the pagans the mere instrument of man.
Divini Redemptoris, published by Pope Pius XI in March 1937:
Communism is particularly characterized by the rejection of any link that binds woman to the family and the home, and her emancipation is proclaimed as a basic principle. She is withdrawn from the family and the care of her children, to be thrust instead into public life and collective production under the same conditions as man. The care of home and children then devolves upon the collectivity. Finally, the right of education is denied to parents, for it is conceived as the exclusive prerogative of the community, in whose name and by whose mandate alone parents may exercise this right.
LABOREM EXERCENS 1981
It will redound to the credit of society to make it possible for a mother-without inhibiting her freedom, without psychological or practical discrimination, and without penalizing her as compared with other women-to devote herself to taking care of her children and educating them in accordance with their needs, which vary with age. Having to abandon these tasks in order to take up paid work outside the home is wrong from the point of view of the good of society and of the family when it contradicts or hinders these primary goals of the mission of a mother26.
LABOREM EXERCENS 1981
But it is fitting that they should be able to fulfil their tasks in accordance with their own nature, without being discriminated against and without being excluded from jobs for which they are capable, but also without lack of respect for their family aspirations and for their specific role in contributing, together with men, to the good of society. The true advancement of women requires that labour should be structured in such a way that women do not have to pay for their advancement by abandoning what is specific to them and at the expense of the family, in which women as mothers have an irreplaceable role.
JPII's FAMILIARIS CONSORTIO (note the distinction between working women and wives/mothers):
While it must be recognized that women have the same right as men to perform various public functions, society must be structured in such a way that wives and mothers are not in practice compelled to work outside the home, and that their families can live and prosper in a dignified way even when they themselves devote their full time to their own family.
Furthermore, the mentality which honors women more for their work outside the home than for their work within the family must be overcome. This requires that men should truly esteem and love women with total respect for their personal dignity, and that society should create and develop conditions favoring work in the home.
I am reminded about how our culture is rapidly turning into ancient Sparta in how it views women. Women in Sparta were more or less viewed as “defective men”. They had the liberties associated with men, but they were expected to dress like men, act like men, and make up for the lack of fighting strength with labor, as opposed to Athens where they were viewed as destined homemakers and men as scholars. Catholicism believes that God has a plan for all, but that each has their unique gifts. However, men and women should abide by standards for their sex and take their found role in the world seriously
this is incorrect. what do you mean by "abide by standards for their sex?" that is complete hogwash.
@@terrymunoztrujillo483 Yeah... I agree with not forcing all women to be like men, but it is just as stupid to say each needs to abide by their sex's "standards", whatever that means anyway.
@@berwynsigns4115Men and women have God given roles. Men lead the home aka the church, protect, and provide. Women submit to their husbands, bear children, and cultivate the home aka the church. To say otherwise is to go against Natural Law. Feminist ideology is seeping into Catholicism and it's showing.
@@ItsChrisFtw The Church recognizes that individuals may express their masculinity or femininity in different ways, and that gender identity is complex and multifaceted. The Church does not hold that there is only one acceptable way to express one's gender identity. Rather, the Church encourages individuals to embrace their God-given identity and to live out their lives in a way that reflects their unique personality and gifts. This includes recognizing and affirming the different expressions of masculinity and femininity that may exist in individuals, regardless of their biological sex.
The Catholic Church has gone through significant changes and reforms since the time of Jan Hus and the Protestant Reformation. The Catholic Church has undergone various reforms and adjustments in its teachings and practices throughout its history. The Catholic Church today has different priorities, practices, and beliefs than it did in the past. Additionally, the Catholic Church has engaged in significant efforts towards interfaith dialogue and reconciliation, seeking to build bridges between different religions and communities.
While it is true that some individuals who identify as Catholic may hold private beliefs that are not in line with official Church teachings, it is important to recognize that the Church's teachings on human dignity and worth are fundamental to its doctrine and are central to its mission. As such, the Church works to promote these values and to ensure that all individuals are treated with the respect and dignity they deserve, regardless of their gender identity or expression. Additionally, the Church encourages ongoing dialogue and engagement with individuals of all backgrounds and experiences, in order to deepen understanding and foster greater compassion and acceptance.
@@berwynsigns4115 Stopped reading after the first paragraph of "gender identity". Yup, Satan is doing his job well. Praying for you.
Great topic!
Greetings Mr.Angel & Mrs.Cotter,
Thoughts :-
- Interesting Chat Message reflects with "Men & Women are God's Divine Creation whom are Intrinsically Distinguished but Extrinsically Integrated and are the Building blocks of Human Civilization".
- Thanks for Kind Thoughts.
With Prayers for Everyone,
RanjithJoseph (R.J)
Men cannot live without women, and women cannot live without men.
Boom.
Wow Jackie Angel you look so different! Oh, it's Lisa Cotter 🤣
Wow! So timely and inspiring. Glad this popped up in my recommended.
I almost forgot why I left the church. Appreciate the reminder 💙🏳️🌈
People say men don't take their responsibilities, are selfish and uncaring, and from almost every men I see around it is true, they buy what they want, their wife makes more money, they don't take care of the kids and their wife. People say it is the church's fault if men are like that, (big misogynistic babies)?.
How do we respond to something like that, how do we prove that the church never stood up for that?
My point of view was to say men and women have their faults and they both should be better, and we should not all put it all on men because women could become entitled.
What is the best way to answer that problem ?
Did Pope Benedict say that when women live out the gifts they are the privileged sign of that they draw out the gifts of those around them or is that your own opinion?
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The thing she's talking about as someone breaking into your home and threating your family - I think this has nothing to do with male or female (Gifts) differences between the genders. Its call the fight or flight response,( lizard part of the brain) and every animal has this from human to insects. A story I read where , 2 assailant broke into a home and starting pistol whipping, beating the husband, the wife in the bedroom 8 months pregnant, pulls out AR-15 out of closet and proceeds to gun down both attackers killing one and wounding the other.
I also don’t buy that a father wouldn’t make sure his children were safe before going off to fight the intruder.
But really though, if the objective is survival for everyone, maybe the best plan of action would be to gather all the kids, exit the house undetected, and call the police from a neighbor’s house? And if that’s a woman thing, then maybe women would just make better COs than men, because that’s some brilliant military strategy right there. It seems like you’d have to be a fool to confront an intruder head on if you didn’t have to. Not to mention it could be an illicit use of force, since it’s not absolutely necessary.
@@musiclist4792 Check on the kids? You may not have that luxury - Time you realize someones breaking in they might already be in the house.
Or you wake up laying in bed with 14 yr. Holding a gun to your face.
@@sitka49 it was a reply to the specific situation mentioned in the video which did not sound like it included the possibility mentioned by you. If what you mentioned here happened, and you have a split second to make a tactical decision about what you’re going to do, nobody, either the man or the woman is going to have time to think about the kids. Hopefully you do have time to get right with God though if you haven’t already. It might also be a good idea to sleep with a weapon nearby you’re not going to accidentally injure yourself or somebody else with. Depending on how large your house is though, you might still have time to get out even if they’re already inside. You might even want to have a family plan for what to do in case of an overnight home invasion like people do for fires. Real life often does destroy even the best laid plans but thinking on your feet is easier with some kind of premade strategy.
Thanks for this. Honestly the catholic church understanding of the gender binary is really refreshing compared to what I was taught.
I think a lot of the confusion around gender now days comes from the fact we are are taught its in a "box" it has a stereotype. And it's performative to the point of being a label/aesthetic.
And if you don't fit that strict stereotype then your neither male or female.
This hyperfeminine and hypermasculine that's so rampant in my generation is so toxic.
This comment is everything wrong with modern women. Sound and fury signifying nothing.
Random thought. Does it weird anybody else out or wonder what would have happened if while Jesus was preaching, He told the people about automobiles, jets, computers, and cellphones...
The preaching would probably be very similar.
That’s the thing. Even if the Jewish customs have been lost or replaced, Mary, Joseph, and Jesus would still have still existed much the same, but with their lifestyles being more akin to the time. Poor widows still exist. Feuding and wars still exist. Tyrants still exist. Drugs, brothers, gambling, corruption still exists. Christ would have found himself executed much the same way.
That’s what must be realized. His message is timeless, but God chose Abraham to prepare the way, and the Son incarnated to the children of Abraham at that time and place to save us.
It would probably frighten the people to be told the future. God gave us Free Will, but does not wish to tell us of a future on this world. Though there have been prophets who tell of machines and their consequences. Some not divinely inspired but rather understand the tech of their time creating problems
@@dylangtech what prophets and when told of machines? i think you're making that up.
I’ve thought of this too. My answer is that if we lived 400 years ago, we would be saying “what if God told everyone in the Bible about cannons, large ships, muskets, medicine, etc. we would look at that now and go “this is such basic technology.” The same thing will be the case in 400 years from now. Truth is, God doesn’t care about our technology, as our works are rags before Him. He cares about our conversion, and that is what is written for. Technology us cool to us, but not to God, who looks at our technology and scoffs at how we think we have power
The Romans turned our SPIRITUAL MOTHER into a male. She is the HOLY SPIRIT. The Greeks called her SOPHIA,which means WISDOM. Jesus was CONCEIVE by the HOLY SPIRIT as expressed in the Nicene Creed.
👎 You failed to explain the complementarity of men and women by not addressing clearly the differences between men and women.
Mary and joseph look no further.
The fact that is not the center point of this video is the effect of modernisation of the Catholic church and that trickles down to this channel.
Great points made, yet this being a Catholic channel this is really lacks Catholic tradition, and the Catholic religion. Mega church vibes.
Man was made in the image of God, while the woman was made from the rib of man. That means her place is next to a man and she serves her man as the man serves God, Amen 🙏🏻.
Both were made in God’s image.
And God created humankind in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” Gen 1:26-27 clarifies that the Hebrew term adam stands for the generic species of humanity which is composed of men and women
Don’t let your own bias and limited understanding corrupt God’s word.
@@ABB14-11he’s right
@@ABB14-11 ...and your point being what? The point still stands that the woman is subservient to the man. Even in nature, the female of the species exists to be conquered.
The Catholic “viewpoint” has been dead wrong many times in the past and is still dead wrong about some things. Not to worry, though, the Holy Spirit will guide us Catholics - and the official teachings of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church - to all Truth, eventually ❤