sometimes you need to put competition aside, and let the love of making and eating pizza take over afterall, they all make pizza passionetly, for hating someone else for owning a shop which rivals you is showing you are not making pizza passionately. these trio are true pizza makers, and as a man living in israel i am crying daily that i cant get a slice of each of these people's pizza.
In early January 2020, Zume announced that it was ending pizza production and refocusing the company as a provider of packaging and automated production and delivery systems to other food companies; the changes entailed laying off 53% of the company's workforce, and potentially more.
Great idea, but of the however many billions to be made off of pizza in America - it’s mostly from middle to low income ppl. Why the heck are you targeting the rich millennial who eats for free at work??? Business 101 know your market
I've been watching vice for some years now and have gone through a number of shows and presenters, after following along the pizza show I have to say that hands down, Frank is one of the best fits as a presenter. Sincere, friendly, knowledgeable and passionate about what he is documenting. Many hosts or purists would bang on about how the robots are a sin to pizza but Frank looked at it with open eyes!
Frank's mom must be very proud of him. He is an engaging, honest, positive person, who really knows his stuff. He's not condescending to people doing different things. What a charming young man.
MUNCHIES MUNCHIES...VICE....PLEASE PUT FRANK IN EVERYTHING YOU HAVE. make a frank frank and frank now. tell alessandro porcelli he needs to do a cook it raw PIZZA...and then bring Frank. Take Frank's nonna back to her home spot and have her get all old school italian knowledge on our ass. All i know is I wanna see more Frank. I know you do to so thanks in advance. I am looking forward to it!
Little Ceasars is the best out of those 4. It's a business out of Detroit that stays close to the locals in each state. Even Frank who visited a Little Ceasars factory in Detroit said his favorite item on their menu is their crazy bread and he even tries to get them to give up the secret.
Clyde Villain of course bruh, who the fuck dont like pizza?? Its something literally everyone can relate to, gays, straights, black, white, men, women, transgenders and i guess even robots now.
Except the pizza he spit out in the beginning was ordered from a big chain in NY. He was in his house with 4 local big shot pizza chefs and his grandmother even came over. He was definitely in the East Coast at that point in the video. It wouldn't be until the middle of the video that he goes to Silicon Valley in the West Coast. When he was talking about how Seoul's pizza reminded him of the West Coast (19:20), he was referring to the Asian Style pizza (15:53) that he tried at Zume's factory -- which he actually compliments at 15:47. In both those instances, there is discussion on how the pizza is made sweeter than classic pizza (at 15:56 and at 19:26). That's what makes Asian Style distinct, and is likely what Frank was trying to highlight. Edit: Added a few more timestamps in parentheses.
I'm not sure this message will ever get to these awesome pizza makers, but still. I'm glad there are still people like you and I'm glad big companies get big shares like this in the cooking industry. Having to eat blank meals (and I'm not talking only about pizza here) only makes it sweeter when you go to a local place, like a family Pizza Shop and enjoy their heavenly pizza. I'm from Romania and this happens to us too, but more and more local family businesses started appearing and growing because we can taste the difference. I'd rather pay 20$ for a slice of pizza instead of 5$, when I can definitely taste the difference.
Rares Lisovschi personally I think it is worse from local or small places often cheaply made uncleanly made often the bar or restaurants have rats roaches or just workers who do not wash there hands I enjoy big companies cause they are clean and tbh dominoes is really good especially with the garlic crust that is now standard
I think we are the reason actually, for not showing him where to eat good food. If we show him and he still doesn't want to, then it's his fault for not trying.
silicone valley is so cringey is so many ways. It all seems to follow an algorithm even the people working for the businesses follow the algorithm, it's all like it's trying too much.
I actively root for large corporations like Domino's, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, and that Zume start-up to go out of business and to be replaced with small mom and pop operations that actually care about pizza.
1.Would you still want that if they make good food? 2. Do you think all mom and pops are better than big four? 3. If mom and pops do takeover, do you think all of them can match the price?
I just made the same comment!! Thank god I know how to cook because we would have starved...I can only think of 3 places hubby will even eat from besides home and 2 of those are local mom & pop places...he will eat at sonic as a last resort while traveling.
I love locally owned pizza places as much as the next person (it's 99% of what I get), but you're tripping if you can't get down with some Dominos or Pizza Hut every now and again. Especially when they're usually like half the cost for the same size.
That's besides the point during the early stages. They have raised 48 million dollars to date, so they can survive to a while. The bigger danger are their investors pushing them to scale too early.
I agree. They arn't getting half the orders to fill those ovens per trip. Not to mention you need to employ a software and hardware tech to deliver the shit. lmao. This only makes sense in the bizarro-world of the Silicon Valley were your shareholders/investors are your best friends and just as deluded as you are.
Hey guys, we're (insert startup name), and we're one of 5 million tech startups that exist around the world today. We're so forward-thinking with our products and services that we decided we need to "revolutionize" the workplace too, because coming up with a useful product or service and selling it, just like any other business, isn't enough these days. At (insert startup name) we believe in people not profit, so unlike other workplaces we have a "zen" room where our "people" can "unwind" whenever they want! We also have a pool table and, YOU GUESSED IT!, a beer fridge. How else are we supposed to dupe these fuckers into staying here 24/7? Don't sweat it though, we're also really humanistic and value our customers as people too, so we decided to name them according to various racial stereotypes. Have you met our "techie average customer" who makes up 48% of the marketplace? Don't worry, he's more than just a statistic to us. He's a person and his name is "Lang"? He's Asian btw. Have you seen our amazing robots?! We don't like the idea of treating anything over here like a tool to be used (see above, humanistic workplace), so we decided to name them. CAUSE THEY'RE PEOPLE TOO! They do most of the legwork for the company and are constantly slaving away making pizzas, so we decided to give them Mexican names like "Juan" and "Pepe". At (insert startup name) we don't believe in work, we believe in doing what you love while "pushing the boundaries" of technology. One pizza at a time.
Hilarious and true. Thank god I don't live in Cali. I'm a NY'er like Frank, even worked at one of the same pizza places he did before he started his own. Our culture in NY is just so different from this silicon valley/cali type culture and attitude. I just had to cringe multiple times listening to this woman talk. It all just seems phony and sheltered, and yet pretentious at the same time. I was half expecting her to show Frank the "cry room" next for when her employees are just having a bad day. Maybe I'm being a bit too critical but I just cannot relate to how these sorts of people act.
@@retrocny5625 thats because her business is copying the tech industry companies. Google, apple, etc all have that culture and its working. Theres a reason why silicon valley has the biggest tech companies. if your employees are not at their best mentally, their work will reflect that.
I had a pizzeria with my brother in a college town. Everything fresh, done right, with a recipe from the original owner of the pizzeria in the spot we had, decades old. Dining room packed every weekend, fairly busy most nights. Our pizza was a little less expensive than the chains, and we delivered in a 15 mile radius. I eventually left, and my brother had to close. Even the guy down the street who had been there for over 30 years eventually closed, he was the most popular place in town, he'd have a line down the block when the bars closed. As I drove through town last, Domino's and Papa John's delivery cars all over the place. Applebee's and Chili's were always packed to the gills. I guess people go for what's familiar instead of what's better.
old comment but as somebody from NJ lemme tell you, a lot of people outside the pizza strongholds just cant tell the difference between pizza and good pizza. Its the privlege of having so many great places in a small area that lets u appreciate the factors in it. College kids on a budget probably saw your pizza and only knew generic trattorias and dominos and didnt want to spend a higher amount on something that might be better
For a while, they had the trucks parked in Palo Alto and were driving the pizzas like normal delivery, just closer. Like many silicon valley companies, they were trying to fake it until they could make it
The guy in the beginning said he doesn't care about money, he cares about making good pizza. You can tell he's passionate about his craft and that's why his pizza is good. The people at Zume are passionate about technology. I'm sure if I wanted to eat their technology, it would be great, but their pizza is going to be mediocre at best.
feel sorry for those workers in the zume kitchen 'hey guys you guys are out of a job in three weeks but thats ok my fav robot bruno is taking over, arent you guys excited!!'
Mark: "I'm not about making money, I just love making pizza", Also Mark, $28 for a cheese pizza at his place. You can get 4 pizzas at dominos with 2 toppings each for the price of one of his cheese pizzas. The chains exist because there are plenty of people in NYC who can't spend $28 on a cheese pizza
@@kincade6715 It's on their site. They have a deal where you can order a fairly wide variety of items at $5.99/each (pickup) and $6.99/each (delivered); two items minimum.
That's the thing tho, places like dominos, little Caesars, and Pizza Hut are cheap because they use cheap ingredients and make more money off off people buying more than one thing. Small places like Lucali's use better ingredients and only have a couple of things on the menu, so of course it's going to be more expensive than the chains.
@@emanuelramirez9132 bro its pizza, cheese and dough are dirt cheap. i agree toppings are higher quality at the independent stores but $28 is a ridiculous mark up.
Zume seems too focused on is being 'distruptive' in the industry, rather than quality... You know they would fire those low-paid human workers if they could figure out a robot to evenly add fucking cheese in a circle.
@@internetman1213 yeah its a cool concept but i dont ever see this going nation wide. Either itll fizzle out never to be heard from again or itll be like In-n-out burgers and be exclusive on the west coast. Nothing can replace good old fashioned hand made pizzas. Even the ones made in fire or coal ovens are notorious for being better than ones made in electric ovens. It just seems that the oldest way is the best way
AJ Fisher true, I’ve been watching this show for a while now and like most things that isn’t the only side of pizza. Pizza has almost become a medium to express through, whether it’s through wacky culinary adventures, the passion for the art, remembrance/family, I don’t think saying x or y is a complete disgrace is doing x or y any justice. It’s like the whole Hawaiian pizza or Chicago pizza debate; there’s a time a place for it.
Jesus man. I have only started watching this series today and im already hoked. Pizza is my soul, it is my being. Why was this not a mainstream show. Za is my deal Nice job
@@nonyadamnbusiness2301 Why? As long as machines keep improving it will eventually surpass humans, and they don't seem to be slowing down any time soon.
"It's not about making money, it's about making pizza..." I was shocked you did this challenge. I was not surprised at the results...The best pizza is made by hand by a neighborhood pizza....Robots making pizza? Sure. Robots making great pizza? I don't think so...
As a pizza lover myself I've come to realize that all my life I've never had a legit "REAL" Pizza its always been pizza hut or a chain of some sorts. And i wanna get laced up by one of these pizza gods. No bullshit. Teach me pls !!!!!!!!!
The Zume Pizza is so hilarious, why put so much money in IT-Specialists, Robot Gear etc. for steps normal employees would do better and cheaper. And the pizza is not cooked while beeing delievered, only warmed up. Soulless food!
Normal employees wouldn't necessarily be cheaper in the long run. Machines like that would only need upkeep so often, or if they break. Otherwise the cost is probably just electricity.
No, b/c it was so corporate and full of people who are trying to commercialize and flatten pizza rather than focus on integrity and passion. Those three legends in the beginning ate Fing Dominos for Gd's sake!
Hm...sure, I too am more in favor of those values you brought up, of course. However, I'll say: as long as they don't pick up a sponsorship from any of those big players, we're good. Whether we like it or not, it's a developing industry and all of this is reality. Why deny it? As I said, the focus on tradition, integrity and passion is in *all* the other episodes. I simply don't think of this one as "sad" and I'm sure it's gonna be a one-off anyway.
That is fair. But I will continue to believe that this will be pretty much the saddest episode ever. You could just tell Pinello was doing this as a courtesy and not like he wanted to do it. I mean he literally sold out to Mr. Pizza and was definitely not cool with making a shitty sweet potato crust pie. // As an aside, I have had Mr. Pizza many times in SK and it is by far the worst pizza I have ever had. Like the video said, it is like having dessert and pizza in the same bite, effing terrible dog food.
Agreed. It's inevitable that the majority of the prepared food industry will incorporate robotics in the future... technology doesn't just stop lol. Unfortunately, my generation is so ass backwards, everything is about ''NOW''... I want this NOW, I want that NOW. Pretty soon we won't even have to open our mouths to communicate with people because that takes too much effort. Eventually, the entire country will operate like silicone valley... where tech is the be all end all. It's sad, but it's going to happen.
What artistry? they'd be replacing other non-artisan pizza places like shitty Domino's...and I hope that they do, being that the pizza will end up being cheaper
Then you also shouldn't support a company that puts people out of work trying to replace the artistry of spinning and weaving . Oh wait , you do! What you're thinking is exactly what people thought during the industrial revolution
1 thing I don't understand is how the dough doesn't rip. it's so thin but yet they manage to thrown and flip it and stuf without making even a little hole. just incredible!
Watching the earlier episodes which are filled with passion of pizza the robots were really a put off, it's like handing a paint brush to a painter, no wonder they diversified
I do pizza consulting and advise against full automation, I'm hoping customers care enough to avoid places that embrace robots over people. You can't replace the love and care real humans put into food. Robots are for the fast food chains who don't give AF.
From one location to the next and delivered same time, say it takes 15 mins to each delivery . You've got 15+ ovens in each foodtruck. @ $10 a pie. Your only at $40/hr. Minus all those expenses ( technologies cost and human labour) Doesnt seem like much,.. the math doesnt seem to add up.
I had Papa John's ONCE, it was so bad, never again, I had Domino's a few times but just because it was close, my boss would order it for us. Little Caesar's is not horrible but again I have only had it a few times. I ate Pizza Hut at least once a week as a teen but only because they had arcade games back in the 70s. I finally gave up and learned how to make it at home...as a matter of fact I have ziplocks of dough, tubs of home made sauce and fresh motz in the fridge right now to give as a house warming gift tomorrow. A gas oven and a pizza stone are a must LOL!
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holy shit they got the owner of lucali's, lombardi's, and luigi's in the same room.
Scott Pantera and the main man Frank of Best Pizza.
sometimes you need to put competition aside, and let the love of making and eating pizza take over
afterall, they all make pizza passionetly, for hating someone else for owning a shop which rivals you is showing you are not making pizza passionately.
these trio are true pizza makers, and as a man living in israel i am crying daily that i cant get a slice of each of these people's pizza.
Astr0hax i wasnt saying it because i thought they hated eachother lol. i said it because its like getting a bunch of legends in the same room.
***** Ah, sorry about that!
still, the show is pretty fucking awesome.
While eating that pizza....
In early January 2020, Zume announced that it was ending pizza production and refocusing the company as a provider of packaging and automated production and delivery systems to other food companies; the changes entailed laying off 53% of the company's workforce, and potentially more.
Fuck The matrix and silicon valley.
wellcome to silicon valley
Great idea, but of the however many billions to be made off of pizza in America - it’s mostly from middle to low income ppl. Why the heck are you targeting the rich millennial who eats for free at work??? Business 101 know your market
damn
What a bunch of bastards.
I've been watching vice for some years now and have gone through a number of shows and presenters, after following along the pizza show I have to say that hands down, Frank is one of the best fits as a presenter. Sincere, friendly, knowledgeable and passionate about what he is documenting.
Many hosts or purists would bang on about how the robots are a sin to pizza but Frank looked at it with open eyes!
You can really see it in some of the comments here, all that pizza purist bs lmao
Frank's mom must be very proud of him. He is an engaging, honest, positive person, who really knows his stuff. He's not condescending to people doing different things. What a charming young man.
That was his grandmother
Nona means grandmother but I bet his mom is proud too.
@@candidethirtythree4324 so sorry! I missed an "N". Of course you are right. Nonna/Nonno. Ha ragione.
The people at Zume pizza are like the people GTA 5 made fun of, they were spot on lol.
I was feeling so bad when Frankie missed his toppings and was thinking the poor sob who has to do that shit as a job
Zume: We wan't to be a national chain.
Our main demographic is guys in their mid 20's who earn 140k a year...
...yet they choose to eat mediocre pizza every day
That's low income for the bay area.
@@Edward135i nearly poor smh
@@Edward135i no its not
TCB standard Silicon Valley then lol
honestly i don't want this series to ever stop. i found out about it a few days ago and haven't stopped watching!
is it just me or does the Zume office remind me of the LifeInvader office in gta 5?
Or anything from Watchdogs 2 I guess they live up to the stereotype.
Same
Nuuuuurrrrdddd👊🏻💦 fucking gta😂😂😂 get a woman and a slice!!🤓🤓🤓
italian adult males in their mid 40's...you either look like mark from lucali's or gio from luigi's.
Badass 💪
This is too accurate lmao
@@soowoo2246 i had to update lol. gio from luigi's lost a lot of weight and looks good! respect! but my statement is still true though haha.
7:00
I don't know why but the fact that there is a guy holding the board that she is pointing at just make me giggle uncontrollably...
i didnt eaven notice the guy or gal XDDDD
MUNCHIES MUNCHIES...VICE....PLEASE PUT FRANK IN EVERYTHING YOU HAVE.
make a frank frank and frank now. tell alessandro porcelli he needs to do a cook it raw PIZZA...and then bring Frank. Take Frank's nonna back to her home spot and have her get all old school italian knowledge on our ass.
All i know is I wanna see more Frank. I know you do to so thanks in advance. I am looking forward to it!
Man I was really hoping those 3 old guidos were going to talk about how shit Papa John's is for the whole episode.
PenDanger2 they are just into what they like doing.
If only they used better ingredients, they'd have better pizza.
Pspas is the best out of those 4
Little Ceasars is the best out of those 4. It's a business out of Detroit that stays close to the locals in each state. Even Frank who visited a Little Ceasars factory in Detroit said his favorite item on their menu is their crazy bread and he even tries to get them to give up the secret.
@@danielblaha2881 hahahahha I getcit6
Munchies finally realized this is their best show and we all love it, so we're finally getting more episodes.
Clyde Villain of course bruh, who the fuck dont like pizza?? Its something literally everyone can relate to, gays, straights, black, white, men, women, transgenders and i guess even robots now.
“Really reminds me of pizza chains on the west coast”...nice compliment seeing how he spit it out at the beginning of the video lmao
Probably was talking about California Pizza Kitchen, which he did not try in the beginning of the video.
Except the pizza he spit out in the beginning was ordered from a big chain in NY. He was in his house with 4 local big shot pizza chefs and his grandmother even came over. He was definitely in the East Coast at that point in the video. It wouldn't be until the middle of the video that he goes to Silicon Valley in the West Coast. When he was talking about how Seoul's pizza reminded him of the West Coast (19:20), he was referring to the Asian Style pizza (15:53) that he tried at Zume's factory -- which he actually compliments at 15:47. In both those instances, there is discussion on how the pizza is made sweeter than classic pizza (at 15:56 and at 19:26). That's what makes Asian Style distinct, and is likely what Frank was trying to highlight.
Edit: Added a few more timestamps in parentheses.
@@deker0 what's so bad about California pizza kitchen?
@@RaptorG_OG It's just mass produced pizza, same as the chains that he tried at the beginning of the video.
The zume pizza idea is really sad :(
Zune pizza no longer exists
lol
excellent news
NICE
Its beautiful to see these guys come together and have a good time talking about one of the simplest yet most delicious food on earth.
This has been such a great and well rounded series and frank is a great host. His love and respect for pizza is undeniable.
I'm not sure this message will ever get to these awesome pizza makers, but still. I'm glad there are still people like you and I'm glad big companies get big shares like this in the cooking industry. Having to eat blank meals (and I'm not talking only about pizza here) only makes it sweeter when you go to a local place, like a family Pizza Shop and enjoy their heavenly pizza. I'm from Romania and this happens to us too, but more and more local family businesses started appearing and growing because we can taste the difference. I'd rather pay 20$ for a slice of pizza instead of 5$, when I can definitely taste the difference.
Rares Lisovschi personally I think it is worse from local or small places often cheaply made uncleanly made often the bar or restaurants have rats roaches or just workers who do not wash there hands I enjoy big companies cause they are clean and tbh dominoes is really good especially with the garlic crust that is now standard
Bubber Fuckme Well, that's the catch. You have to search a little to find them.
I think we are the reason actually, for not showing him where to eat good food. If we show him and he still doesn't want to, then it's his fault for not trying.
+Rares 20 for a slice ?? Idiot. You can make 10 whole pizzas for $20
2:35 "US-sales alone are over 30 billion dollars, and that's excluding the rest of the world" - thanks for the explanation, Frank!
Well for some white people, USA = the world
@@NickyNightShine dumbass
@@mohmj6815 you can't deny what's obviously true
@@NickyNightShine nothing's obvious, you're just an ignorant moron
@@mohmj6815 lmao your right, this guy's just racist.
silicone valley is so cringey is so many ways. It all seems to follow an algorithm even the people working for the businesses follow the algorithm, it's all like it's trying too much.
Like that zen room with bean bags? Lmao, you're right on the money. All so pretentious
the one chick had a fatty though
@@StukaSteven yeah but not really in a good way imo. Like yes its fat but its shape is all "mushed"
@@yomamasaccount I have no idea what that means
@@StukaSteven the ass is fat but it's not perky at all and has bad shape. I guess saggy would be a good word
Who the fuck even dislikes this heavenly show!!
people on diets or people with gluten allergies...
amays86 butthurt vegan shitheads
Saurabh Patil Pizza haters, although that's a bigger issue than disliking the video. I mean who doesn't love pizza.
pizza-hut
"gluten allergies"
I just ate a personal pan pizza from taco bell. I'm a fuckin disgrace.
Big ol doink.
Smoking fat doinks
23:52 he's just dancing while holding pizza dough LOL
AbraslamLincoln 😂😂😂
AbraslamLincoln hahahahah
He's perfecting his routine! Give him a chance!
He wanted some of Frank's sausage...
still won dem pizza games with it tho xd
That zume lady has been microdosing a bit too much
she had that dumptruck tho.
the italian in me says: no. and I am not even italian.
I Am italian and i m 😭😭😭😭😭
@@chiarab34a41 Maybe, donate your arms and fit them to the robot? At least, the robot has an italian handmade touch :D?
@@Giigigi1122 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Maronne
i LOVE how he asked if the delivery guy got tipped well. that's so awesome to see.
Frank Pinello for governor
I love that guy! Best host ever.
Recognize Real Frank Pinello for pizza ambassador of America.
Have you ever tried a slice of best pizza? It's fucking burnt. I didn't think so. His pizza sucks.
pizza is life.
more like pizza is death haha
Köllefornia 4711 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Ultra Aslan pizza brings peace to the dinner table. Pizza Diplomacy🙏🏻
Ultra Aslan LAHMACUN LAN🇹🇷😂
Ultra Aslan not that automated piece of shit pizza! Everyone else is going conventional and these idiots want a robopizza!
I actively root for large corporations like Domino's, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, and that Zume start-up to go out of business and to be replaced with small mom and pop operations that actually care about pizza.
1.Would you still want that if they make good food?
2. Do you think all mom and pops are better than big four?
3. If mom and pops do takeover, do you think all of them can match the price?
You had Us in the first half not going to lie
I just made the same comment!! Thank god I know how to cook because we would have starved...I can only think of 3 places hubby will even eat from besides home and 2 of those are local mom & pop places...he will eat at sonic as a last resort while traveling.
I love locally owned pizza places as much as the next person (it's 99% of what I get), but you're tripping if you can't get down with some Dominos or Pizza Hut every now and again. Especially when they're usually like half the cost for the same size.
zumes business model seems ridiculously unprofitable
pls explain why
X2 explain why.
That's besides the point during the early stages. They have raised 48 million dollars to date, so they can survive to a while. The bigger danger are their investors pushing them to scale too early.
Delivering one pizza in a big truck to one customer??
I agree. They arn't getting half the orders to fill those ovens per trip. Not to mention you need to employ a software and hardware tech to deliver the shit. lmao. This only makes sense in the bizarro-world of the Silicon Valley were your shareholders/investors are your best friends and just as deluded as you are.
This channel is so nice to watch. You guys really do a great job. Thanks so much for your time and effort!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys, we're (insert startup name), and we're one of 5 million tech startups that exist around the world today. We're so forward-thinking with our products and services that we decided we need to "revolutionize" the workplace too, because coming up with a useful product or service and selling it, just like any other business, isn't enough these days. At (insert startup name) we believe in people not profit, so unlike other workplaces we have a "zen" room where our "people" can "unwind" whenever they want! We also have a pool table and, YOU GUESSED IT!, a beer fridge. How else are we supposed to dupe these fuckers into staying here 24/7? Don't sweat it though, we're also really humanistic and value our customers as people too, so we decided to name them according to various racial stereotypes. Have you met our "techie average customer" who makes up 48% of the marketplace? Don't worry, he's more than just a statistic to us. He's a person and his name is "Lang"? He's Asian btw. Have you seen our amazing robots?! We don't like the idea of treating anything over here like a tool to be used (see above, humanistic workplace), so we decided to name them. CAUSE THEY'RE PEOPLE TOO! They do most of the legwork for the company and are constantly slaving away making pizzas, so we decided to give them Mexican names like "Juan" and "Pepe". At (insert startup name) we don't believe in work, we believe in doing what you love while "pushing the boundaries" of technology. One pizza at a time.
This is far too accurate
Hilarious and true. Thank god I don't live in Cali. I'm a NY'er like Frank, even worked at one of the same pizza places he did before he started his own. Our culture in NY is just so different from this silicon valley/cali type culture and attitude. I just had to cringe multiple times listening to this woman talk. It all just seems phony and sheltered, and yet pretentious at the same time. I was half expecting her to show Frank the "cry room" next for when her employees are just having a bad day. Maybe I'm being a bit too critical but I just cannot relate to how these sorts of people act.
@@retrocny5625 thats because her business is copying the tech industry companies. Google, apple, etc all have that culture and its working. Theres a reason why silicon valley has the biggest tech companies. if your employees are not at their best mentally, their work will reflect that.
Holy shet
it's so weird, I've never seen in a wrong opinion expressed where each and every word is still correct.
24:02 was definitely the funniest part of this video 😂😂
Fucking hilarious
JΛYPhantoms i was dying laughing when i saw it
I was hoping this was that part. Didn't even realize i watched 25 minutes of this show.
But they have beanbag chairs!!!
That and 23:48 LMAO like wtf was that?
I had a pizzeria with my brother in a college town. Everything fresh, done right, with a recipe from the original owner of the pizzeria in the spot we had, decades old. Dining room packed every weekend, fairly busy most nights. Our pizza was a little less expensive than the chains, and we delivered in a 15 mile radius. I eventually left, and my brother had to close. Even the guy down the street who had been there for over 30 years eventually closed, he was the most popular place in town, he'd have a line down the block when the bars closed. As I drove through town last, Domino's and Papa John's delivery cars all over the place. Applebee's and Chili's were always packed to the gills. I guess people go for what's familiar instead of what's better.
old comment but as somebody from NJ lemme tell you, a lot of people outside the pizza strongholds just cant tell the difference between pizza and good pizza. Its the privlege of having so many great places in a small area that lets u appreciate the factors in it. College kids on a budget probably saw your pizza and only knew generic trattorias and dominos and didnt want to spend a higher amount on something that might be better
@@philstory2556 We were no more or less expensive than Dominoes and had regular specials that beat theirs.
The zume pizza girl seems crazy, almost brainwashed
For a while, they had the trucks parked in Palo Alto and were driving the pizzas like normal delivery, just closer. Like many silicon valley companies, they were trying to fake it until they could make it
LOCA 🤪🤪🤪 INDEED!
The guy in the beginning said he doesn't care about money, he cares about making good pizza. You can tell he's passionate about his craft and that's why his pizza is good. The people at Zume are passionate about technology. I'm sure if I wanted to eat their technology, it would be great, but their pizza is going to be mediocre at best.
Are you trying to imply humans can't be replaced? Lol. Most humans already like their machines more than humans.
How does your cell phone taste ?
@@erasmusbonda463 Fucking delicious
I don't buy your argument. You can make great pizza with new technology. Robots don't care about money either ok?
dLimboStick just enough money to buy the fancy gold chains. LOL
The pizza show is the best thing munchies has produced
feel sorry for those workers in the zume kitchen
'hey guys you guys are out of a job in three weeks but thats ok my fav robot bruno is taking over, arent you guys excited!!'
nope, they're not out of a job. they're going to set up another facility.
Dade Murphy you don’t understand
OMG! sauce through plastic tubes! Now there's nano particles of plastic in your pizza! What's a liberal wacko to do...?
@@NineteenEightyFive they're laid off while they hire people closer to the new facility lol
@@jeffreyjewell75 I don't think YOU understand. Humans will always be needed to maintain automation.
*"I got some friends come over who love pizza"* LOL
Mark: "I'm not about making money, I just love making pizza", Also Mark, $28 for a cheese pizza at his place. You can get 4 pizzas at dominos with 2 toppings each for the price of one of his cheese pizzas. The chains exist because there are plenty of people in NYC who can't spend $28 on a cheese pizza
source?
Quality > Quantity pal..
@@kincade6715 It's on their site. They have a deal where you can order a fairly wide variety of items at $5.99/each (pickup) and $6.99/each (delivered); two items minimum.
That's the thing tho, places like dominos, little Caesars, and Pizza Hut are cheap because they use cheap ingredients and make more money off off people buying more than one thing. Small places like Lucali's use better ingredients and only have a couple of things on the menu, so of course it's going to be more expensive than the chains.
@@emanuelramirez9132 bro its pizza, cheese and dough are dirt cheap. i agree toppings are higher quality at the independent stores but $28 is a ridiculous mark up.
Zume seems too focused on is being 'distruptive' in the industry, rather than quality...
You know they would fire those low-paid human workers if they could figure out a robot to evenly add fucking cheese in a circle.
food made for profit are very very different from food made out of love.
Hell yeah I had this one pizza from papa John's that was delicious
Well said.
but all food sold through businesses is made for profit
YAY! Never let this show die! Favourite thing on Munchies at the moment!
I wonder how that truck feels on a hot summer day with 56 ovens going in the back!
Seeing all these family owned, pure pizzerias and then seeing Zume robots, it bummed me out.
The zume pizza idea is really sad :(
Why?
true buna
VC and other Tech SCammers pump over $400 million into it over 4 years and they never had more than 100 employees, It was a scam
But the pizza looks a hell of a lot better than anything from the big four.
RodsCooking that’s bc they where running in the red
This guy has mad connections in the pizza world
the future we saw in Wall-E is slowly coming true.
so sad
MrBobobo94 not just food but construction too will one day be robots
I'd prefer death tbh
"what is zume pizza?"
a disgrace to pizza everywhere
AJ Fisher why?
@@internetman1213 it still fast food pizza just like dominoes or pizza hut; just made fancier
AJ Fisher true, but step in the right direction. Heard and read some bad things about the company’s QC
@@internetman1213 yeah its a cool concept but i dont ever see this going nation wide. Either itll fizzle out never to be heard from again or itll be like In-n-out burgers and be exclusive on the west coast. Nothing can replace good old fashioned hand made pizzas. Even the ones made in fire or coal ovens are notorious for being better than ones made in electric ovens. It just seems that the oldest way is the best way
AJ Fisher true, I’ve been watching this show for a while now and like most things that isn’t the only side of pizza. Pizza has almost become a medium to express through, whether it’s through wacky culinary adventures, the passion for the art, remembrance/family, I don’t think saying x or y is a complete disgrace is doing x or y any justice. It’s like the whole Hawaiian pizza or Chicago pizza debate; there’s a time a place for it.
Jesus man. I have only started watching this series today and im already hoked.
Pizza is my soul, it is my being. Why was this not a mainstream show. Za is my deal
Nice job
I love how the first order they get 1 star
LOL
zume - take the soul out of pizza (y)
Jesus take the wheel
omg Korea has everything. A Pizza Dance team??? I'M SO IN
Nadine Chui it's a weird ass country dude
I’m not a conservative at all, but the “zen room” really made me despise silicon valley.
The part were the ROBOTS make the pizzas is honestly Depressing
It will never taste as good as someone like the host who makes them man
@@nonyadamnbusiness2301
Why? As long as machines keep improving it will eventually surpass humans, and they don't seem to be slowing down any time soon.
It failed. I was checking for a stock price😎 but it apparently went under.
@@jsbrooks72 I mean the idea is kind of ridiculous and im not sure what problem they're solving.
@@HaydenLau. its way different if u compare it to a different pizzaiolo making it
frank gets more attractive every episode
"It's not about making money, it's about making pizza..." I was shocked you did this challenge. I was not surprised at the results...The best pizza is made by hand by a neighborhood pizza....Robots making pizza? Sure. Robots making great pizza? I don't think so...
This is one of the best shows Munchies has ever produced.
As a pizza lover myself I've come to realize that all my life I've never had a legit "REAL" Pizza its always been pizza hut or a chain of some sorts. And i wanna get laced up by one of these pizza gods. No bullshit. Teach me pls !!!!!!!!!
A pizza company with just as many engineers as cooks. Sounds sustainable.
I fuckin love this show, never leave us again
I am finally watching this show while eating pizza!
when all the pizza-place owners were in the same room eating the pizza it reminded me of some sort of italian mob scene.
Holy, glorious thickness...
They Got a dude to hold the lang sign lmao 😂
Pizza is simplicity... with all those toppings that's more like a focaccia with pizza dough
The Zume Pizza is so hilarious, why put so much money in IT-Specialists, Robot Gear etc. for steps normal employees would do better and cheaper. And the pizza is not cooked while beeing delievered, only warmed up. Soulless food!
so you didn't see that big ass truck that sole purpose is to drive and cook the pizza at the same time. not warm up and drive, but coom
They only cooked it In the shop because they were ready to drive and cook yet.
Black mirror
Normal employees wouldn't necessarily be cheaper in the long run. Machines like that would only need upkeep so often, or if they break. Otherwise the cost is probably just electricity.
Robots are cheaper than humans in the long run
The saddest episode of The Pizza Show. Ever. // But that robot was cool tho.
'Cause it fails to dwell on traditionalism ONCE?? Come on!
No, b/c it was so corporate and full of people who are trying to commercialize and flatten pizza rather than focus on integrity and passion. Those three legends in the beginning ate Fing Dominos for Gd's sake!
Hm...sure, I too am more in favor of those values you brought up, of course. However, I'll say: as long as they don't pick up a sponsorship from any of those big players, we're good. Whether we like it or not, it's a developing industry and all of this is reality. Why deny it? As I said, the focus on tradition, integrity and passion is in *all* the other episodes. I simply don't think of this one as "sad" and I'm sure it's gonna be a one-off anyway.
That is fair. But I will continue to believe that this will be pretty much the saddest episode ever. You could just tell Pinello was doing this as a courtesy and not like he wanted to do it. I mean he literally sold out to Mr. Pizza and was definitely not cool with making a shitty sweet potato crust pie. // As an aside, I have had Mr. Pizza many times in SK and it is by far the worst pizza I have ever had. Like the video said, it is like having dessert and pizza in the same bite, effing terrible dog food.
Agreed. It's inevitable that the majority of the prepared food industry will incorporate robotics in the future... technology doesn't just stop lol. Unfortunately, my generation is so ass backwards, everything is about ''NOW''... I want this NOW, I want that NOW. Pretty soon we won't even have to open our mouths to communicate with people because that takes too much effort. Eventually, the entire country will operate like silicone valley... where tech is the be all end all. It's sad, but it's going to happen.
Zume laid of 53% off its staff and became a product centre a while back, the terrible idea just didnt work 🙃
They are so focused on Liang that they hired a guy to hold his card.
T H I C C C C C C C C C C
was gonna say the exact same thing hahahh
Fucking gross. You are a desperate L O S E R
+Rod Okay you white knight fuck, your opinion has been noted. Move along.
I wouldn't support a company that puts people out of work trying to replace the artistry of pizza making.
What artistry? they'd be replacing other non-artisan pizza places like shitty Domino's...and I hope that they do, being that the pizza will end up being cheaper
Adapt or be left behind. Thats life.
But when it's fast food like the top 4, does artistry really matter to them?
Exactly
Then you also shouldn't support a company that puts people out of work trying to replace the artistry of spinning and weaving . Oh wait , you do! What you're thinking is exactly what people thought during the industrial revolution
Zuma is the skynet of pizza making companies.....
Update 4 years after this aired: news story headline “Zume shuts down its robot-powered pizza business”
"I eat out pizza every day and I have lost 20 lbs!" Our pizza is so bad I avoid eating it all costs despite saying I do.
LMAOOOOO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Homegirl from Zume GOT DATASS. OOOOWWEEE
1 thing I don't understand is how the dough doesn't rip.
it's so thin but yet they manage to thrown and flip it and stuf without making even a little hole. just incredible!
Mrcheesydancer Gluten
Mrcheesydancer Thought that too when I was making Pizza for the first time, but if you do the dough right it won't rip that easy.
Dude, next time you’re in the Bay Area... Hit up Arinell’s in Berkeley! The only true NY pizza there! Served by sweet
tatted up metal dudes.
The pepperoni pizza in the intro looks like the best pizza I have ever seen and also I love the little into song thing
As someone who's not from the US, this was actually a very educational episode.
dude one more pizza show and Imma buy a fuckin pizzaaaa!!! 4th time this week :'(
kula sekhar Make a sourdough pizza in a frying pan its even faster than a pizza cooked on the way in a van!
Munchie next: the Curry show, the noodle show, the rice show and the dumpling show.
Viktor Cheng I think The Curry Show would be good. Different countries have different takes on curry.
Yanti Ashaiban would be a good idea cause there's so many versions of curry.
I wouldn't mind "The Ramen Show"
Jamaican curry is the only thing I know how to perfect. Thanks to my grandma :)
Watching the earlier episodes which are filled with passion of pizza the robots were really a put off, it's like handing a paint brush to a painter, no wonder they diversified
imagine walking into a shop and seeing em fling around the dough like the dream team 😂
LOL the engineering team looks EXACTLY as expected. They even work at a PIZZA restaurant.
I really hate the Zume concept, particularly the people behind it!
Brian R these are cali silicon valley nerds
PotatoLad Gaming hahaha greatest comment of all time
"It's a little bigger than you imagined, right?" - Yes, it is. (͠≖ ͜ʖ͠≖)
10:40 I like that he wasn't snooty about wearing a uniform of the "dark side"
I do pizza consulting and advise against full automation, I'm hoping customers care enough to avoid places that embrace robots over people. You can't replace the love and care real humans put into food. Robots are for the fast food chains who don't give AF.
Zume went belly up in June 2023. My son works for a company that produces robot automation. Learn from failure!
The Seoul beard was looking real good. Also, WERK PIZZA DANCERS WERK
only zoomies need a "zen" room
I see you prefer that Walmart break room lol
Can't wait for the episode when Frank discovers the secret underground of pizza dominatrix.
Its like the families of the pizza mob sitting down to check out competition haha
I can't see how a pizza shop would make enough money to support a whole team of engineers on there books
does anyonr get different vibe from the east coast And west coast
Inherently different
West coast people are always putting on a front.
GLOKU not all of us dawg just the kids from silicon
@@bennyagainsttheworld3123 lots of hate here for LA lmao this show is an east coast show
From one location to the next and delivered same time, say it takes 15 mins to each delivery . You've got 15+ ovens in each foodtruck. @ $10 a pie. Your only at $40/hr.
Minus all those expenses ( technologies cost and human labour)
Doesnt seem like much,.. the math doesnt seem to add up.
@12:11 - Pizza looks good 56 ovens seems uneconomical.
Right... like do they think everyone that’s ordering is going to be next door neighbors?
@@JC-dc7eb Do you know anything about routing and distribution? The big 4 currently route their delivery orders as close as possible to each other.
what if one guy needs 57 pizza's do they send a second truck???
Thank you for not immediately compromising on the japanese pizza. a lot of people would cumble under that influence.
Keep it real, love the videos
I had Papa John's ONCE, it was so bad, never again, I had Domino's a few times but just because it was close, my boss would order it for us. Little Caesar's is not horrible but again I have only had it a few times. I ate Pizza Hut at least once a week as a teen but only because they had arcade games back in the 70s. I finally gave up and learned how to make it at home...as a matter of fact I have ziplocks of dough, tubs of home made sauce and fresh motz in the fridge right now to give as a house warming gift tomorrow. A gas oven and a pizza stone are a must LOL!