DRY DROPPER on TENKARA: A Terrible Idea?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- How well does a dry dropper rig work on a tenkara rod? In today's fishing video I aim to find out. I'm going to challenge myself by fishing a dry dropper nymph rig on my tenkara rod the entire day. Will the dry dropper rig lead to some tenkara trout? Or will it be a terrible idea and a total bust?
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Thanks for watching DRY DROPPER on TENKARA: A Terrible Idea?
Gorgeous day! Tools are there to complete a task. Sometimes we choose what our grandfather used and revel in the history. Sometimes we use a screwdriver as a pry bar. Sometimes the Ryoby or Dewalt color draws us in. Sometimes technology changes how we even see the task at hand. There is no wrong way to enjoy a day on the water! Cheers!
Poetic! Appreciate the thoughts my friend :)
I fish a dry dropper setup with my tenkara rods more often then nymphs and wets alone. You don't need a tight connection to a dry, and the dry is your indicator to the dropper, killer combo!
Love it! Thanks for watching Michael.
I’d like to see more videos on how to rig up a dry dropper and also some advice on other droppers and when to use them.
Keep doing what you’re doing. You’re a great cinematographer.
Thanks for the feedback - that would have been good to include in this video for sure. For droppers in general, anything on the smaller side so it isn't too heavy should work, just pick your favorite nymph! Rainbow warriors, small black walt's worms, little stonefly imitations. Honestly, I feel like those 3 will get it done in most places at most times of the year.
You know what I love about your videos Chris? You capture wild trout fishing in Colorado so well. You give us such a clear look at all the fish you release. I don't think anybody Does it Better. Most of all I love the scenery first time I fished in Colorado was Big Thompson Creek I lost so many fish that day because I was staring at the scenery. It was mid April and I had the place to myself. Try doing that back here in Pennsylvania. Looking forward to the next one
Would you believe that this video was in fact filmed there? I don't like to mention names but of course this place isn't exactly a secret to those of us living here :) I'll also say I definitely was not alone here - wish it was still that way, although it's cool to see so many people out enjoying the hobby (after all, I'm one of the newer ones out there). Thanks for the kind words on the release / scenery cinematography and thanks for watching!
I ran across you a couple of other times and after this video I am really kicking myself for not subscribing!! A couple things. Thanks for being so clear about fishing with a Tenkara rod vs. Tenkara fishing. As a newbie, I have seen other videos and listened to podcasts with commentary on this. Some of which, well, I don’t care. You said it: a Tenkara rod is a great tool. I can’t wait to build my skills. Second, love the photography of the release and gurgling water. Truly beautiful and artistic to me. Thanks.
Hey Garry! Glad you ended up here man! I try to keep it simple and I really use my tenkara rod in so many ways, so I can't get too preachy or nerdy over traditional tenkara vs. what I'm doing! I do respect and admire traditional tenkara techniques though, it's all really interesting. Glad you enjoyed the cinematography, welcome to the channel!
Thanks for another great video. I appreciate your view of dry/dropper. I have been fishing Tenkara and Keiyra for 13 years and have tried almost everything, including surf fishing, which worked! Keep up the excellent work.
That's awesome! Salt water is something I've never done. Tenkara, fly rod, spinning or otherwise. What did you catch on the fixed line during your outings?
@FlickyFlies I lived in California, used to surf fish (60 years), so I took my Keiryu rod while camping with me. When the surf was
Par excellence, Chris.
I prefer to present a single fly, though on unfamiliar waters or unsure of what they (Brookies/Browns) prefer, I will present a double rig: #12-14 Sakasa-style up top and #16/18 always with a dark body approx 8-10” below.
This will help narrow down what they prefer for a single-fly presentation.
Another bonus of this is that the dropper allows me to manipulate the movements of the top fly to move as an emerger or injured on the surface to draw attention.
For Browns, I will occasionally have a perdigon/weighted nymph dropper for pool heads and skinny deep troughs.
220, 221…whatever it takes.
Many thanks for taking us fishing and sharing the love.
Thanks as always Mitch! Is the 2nd dark fly a Sakasa as well? I like that idea a lot, very cool. A single fly is by far the most enjoyable way to fish imo, I just more often find myself with that single fly being a jigged streamer or a dry. One of these days I'm going to force myself to go fish single tenkara flies!
Thanks Chris, not only for the unequaled cinematography but for exploring another innovative approach to “modern” tenkara. I guess it all boils down to personal objectives. If maximizing the number of fish to the net is the main goal then creativity with a tenkara rod (dry droppers, long lines, etc.) seems perfectly fine. On the other hand, I have a lot of respect for those who honor the history and not only tie on a single kebari but limit themselves to a single type of kebari. The numbers of fish caught by these folks is largely (but not completely) irrelevant. Either way, it’s all good! Thanks again!
Thanks man! Tenkara rods are such effective tools that they can morph and bend into almost anything we want. I have a ton of respect for those types as well. And really, for Japanese culture of all types. I'm a huge nerd about green tea for example. It's a shock that I haven't dove deep into tenkara in a traditional sense lol! I think the filming / creative process is kind of the most important part to me, which is why I aim to catch as many fish as possible at all times, whatever the method. Some more traditional tenkara videos are definitely in the cards though. Thanks for watching.
I tried using a dropper rig this past winter with some success. Instead of using a dry, i used a balanced leech with a bead head Duracell below and used an indicator, (bobber), and managed to catch some big rainbows in the heart of winter on both flies. Another wonderful video!, thanks!
That definitely sounds like it would work! I love catching fish in the middle of winter on leeches too. It's cool just how many flies that aren't midges will work a lot of the time!
Maybe sometime in the near future you could show us how you tie your dry dropper on a tenkarra rod? I know there is a few ways to rig it up but it would be interesting to see how you prefer it because there isn’t a lot of people talking about a dry dropper setup on a Tenkara rod. Another great video thanks!
You're right, should have done that here! My preferred method is the way I learned from a Troutbitten article. Tie the dry (or point fly in a dual nymph rig) to the tippet as normal. Now, for the dropper, tie another piece of tippet around that first piece of tippet, above the point/dry. Gently. Slide it down slowly and snug it up. Tie on your dropper as normal. With this method you can change your point or your dropper on the fly without having to retie the whole rig. If you want to change your point/dry, just gently slide the dropper back up the line and then retie the point. Hope this helps, lemme know if you have any questions.
Awesome day 🤙
Thank you!
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ありがとう、とてもきれいでした！
I do that all the time. I like to keep score….12 on the dry, 15 on the dropper etc. If it becomes unbalanced I switch to single fly. As long as the dropper is not too heavy casting is just fine.
Love that approach, makes a lot of sense!
As a texas boy who has about 3 months of trout fishing a year, the dry dropper is hard to beat. Few days have nymph fishing alone worked better, it gives the trout some variety and you can fish with all kinds of flys under a dry dropper. They also work great on tenkara becuase they are simple to fish with.
Totally! I'd say it's the most versatile general option out there.
Man, I thought everyone did this. Didn’t know it was such a debate. But then I don’t keep up with all that stuff in my fishing hobby. I just go fishing, no debates attached!
But yeah, even traditional fly fishing I’ve always used “non traditional” tactics and such as using bass fishing mono for an entire leader and never buying tapered for instance. Oh man I can hear the elitists now… 🤣
Fishing is the one thing in my life that I want to be stripped down, no nonsense, etc. I just flat want to fish. Why should anyone care if I want to tie 20lb Berkly Big Game on my Tenkara rod and toss out a spinner fly? Not that I have, but DANGIT I want to have the ability too without hearing judgement!
I hear ya Randall! In some niches online there definitely seems to be a debate, but most folks that find my channel seem to fall under the just want to fish and enjoy fishing their own way camp. Maybe most folks in general feel that way? Probably so. One thing I want to try on a tenkara rod here soon is using micro spoons. Many are much lighter than the streamers I already throw, and they used to be quite popular to use on fly rods. Think that would be a fun experiment ... although I already know the outcome. It would work. Thanks for watching!
that place looks familiar. 😉
Lol! True! One of the few times in the last couple years I've actually fished close to home. It was worth it on this day, and I somehow had to place largely to myself.
Great video
Appreciate you! Thanks for watching as always.
Look forward to your videos, they inspire me to get out and fish. Thanks for all your advice. Come check out the north east; some good fishing in Vermont and New Hampshire.
The northeast used to be my stomping grounds, back before I was fly fishing unfortunately! I definitely plan to get out that way at some point. Glad you enjoyed this one!
@@FlickyFlies I’m in CT, only been out west once to AZ but not to fish. The landscape blew my mind.
Do you fish with bead head point/bottom flies? I haven't fished enough tenkara to know how it'd cast with a weighted fly. Thanks for the great content!
More often than not, yeah! I got used to it pretty quickly when I first started. Imagine a feeling similar to all the tight-line / euro nymphing guys. Rods with a slightly stiffer backbone work better, but any American rod will do. It's crazy effective. What rod are you planning on using?
@@FlickyFlies In your videos the rod top rebounds similarly to my euro rod, they're probably not that dissimilar.
I'm looking for a tenkara rod for my mother, something that can handle weighted flies but is still fun to catch small fish with. Any recommendations? I appreciate it.
@@lolwutyoutube7561 Ahhh I gotcha! The Tenkara rod co. Sierra is a little bit shorter at 10.5 feet but super manageable and feels well balanced with just enough backbone. The Teton Zoom is a bit pricier but is a zoom rod that can do 10.5 feet as well as 12, so it's a bit more flexible. The Yari is legit my favorite rod of all time, it's got some fiberglass in it, is *incredibly* fun with small to medium sized fish, can handle light to medium (no pat's rubber legs, etc.) tungsten beaded nymphs. That's the premium option if you wanna spoil her haha.
@@FlickyFlies Thanks very much! Tight lines
I use mostly dragon tail rods. What is your set up
I've got a ton of rods! The only Dragontail I have is the FoxFire which I absolutely love for smaller streams. I have the entire Tenkara Rod Co. lineup, love their biggest one, the Rocky, for tight line nymphing heavier double nymph rigs and for bigger fish. The Tenkara Rod Co. Yari is my favorite rod period, bit of fiberglass, made in Japan, just beautiful. Also have an assortment of other Japanese made rods.
Perhaps a furled or tapered line would work better.
You know, that's a great idea. I always keep a furled line in my pack as a backup but I've never used one as I like the idea of a light level line for most presentations, but you're definitely right that a furled line would have cast better and probably been a good mix with being able to keep the line off the water enough still. Next time!
Great video, what rod are you using in this video?
Kita 380?
The Teton Zoom!