I just found this channel quite by accident. As a moderate Protestant looking at this from the outside, I can totally understand this. Thank you for this message.
Thank you,as I am a former lifelong Baptist,and love the Lord Jesus Christ.and now I am a complete Christian and worship Him through the ministry of the Byzantine Catholic Church,I was chrismated in 2024 Glory to Jesus Christ ☦️
The beauty ( where beauty is Truth ) of Orthodoxy, is that we read the Word of God holistically, as demonstrated in this beautiful sermon, not clinging onto one verse and turning that into dogma. It would be spiritual blindness and prideful stubbornness for me to fail to assimilate other supporting evidence in the scriptures. May Christ our Lord keep my eyes and ears open to understand His message. God bless your mission.
Thank you for teaching us father. (i like listening to your voice and i would like to hear your breath (breath is spirit in my laungees) the music in the background is sometime nosie for me)
Not always, but today in particular, your important message is difficult to sift from the music. I have a little trouble hearing now that I’m older. May God bless you.
Well when you read Matthew in context with the prophets Jesus says the same thing God said to the Exiles in Ezekiel, “Perceiving this, Jesus said ‘You of little faith, why are you talking amongst yourselves about having no bread? Do you still not understand or remember the five loaves that fed the five thousand and how many baskets you took up? Or do you not remember the seven loaves for the four thousand and how many baskets you took up? How is it that you do not understand that I was not speaking to you about physical bread? But beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees!’ Then they understood that he had not told them to beware of the yeast of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Saduccees.” Which then points to “Indeed I tell you unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees you will by no means enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.” Which then makes Jesus go on to say “ you see that, what they just did? Don’t do that be better than that.” Aka Matt 23:9 (EOB: New Testament) The Power and wisdom of the Triune God truly is unmatched
Note: Jesus said, "Call no man YOUR father" Note: YOUR Father. Jesus said this ONE TIME in all of scripture. He said it to one group of people: the Pharisees. Why? The Pharisees infamously diverted money set aside for their mother and FATHER so that they could use it on themselves. Read Matthew 23! They made void the Commandment! Note: He DID NOT SAY IT TO: Apostles, disciples, Sadducees or anyone else. PAUL!!! Called himself the "FATHER" of the Corinthians (1 Cor. 4:15). He called himself the FATHER of Timothy, Titus and Onesimus and used the term "father" and "fathers" numerous times. Sadly, this is a false and malicious post-reformation accusation used to divide Christians by JUDGING them. It is not of God. Rather, it was incited by the accuser (Revelation 12:10).
I have a question! For context, I've been raised LDS and a year ago, the Lord allowed me to see the truth. Since then, I've actively been disagreeing with the LDS doctrine, and it has caused my mother to have me talk to the bishop in the LDS church, because "I'm confused." During the talk, the bishop asked me what i believed in, and I said, "That Jesus is God." Then he asked me, "If the Trinity is true, then why God pray to himself?" How should anyone respond to this?
"The question misunderstands the nature of the Trinity and the Incarnation. The Trinity teaches that there is one God in three persons-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-who are distinct yet of the same essence. When Jesus prays, He prays as the Son to the Father. This reflects His relationship within the Trinity and His role as fully human and fully divine. As the incarnate Word (John 1:14), Jesus took on human nature and, in His humanity, expressed dependence on the Father, modeling prayer and obedience for us. His prayers do not mean He is 'praying to Himself' but that the Son, distinct in person, communicates with the Father in perfect unity and love."
The question "If the Trinity is true, then why does God pray to Himself?" arises from a misunderstanding of the doctrine of the Trinity and the Incarnation of Christ. The Trinity teaches that God is one in essence but exists eternally as three distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19). These persons are not separate gods but share the same divine essence, while also having unique roles in the economy of salvation. God is one in essence (οὐσία) and three in persons (ὑποστάσεις): the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These persons are distinct yet share the same divine essence, existing eternally in a relationship of love. This understanding of the Trinity is central to Orthodox theology and is affirmed by the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed (the Symbol of Faith). Jesus’ prayers to the Father highlight this relational distinction within the Trinity. His prayers are not contradictions but expressions of the eternal love and communion between the Father and the Son, particularly as revealed in the economy of salvation. When Jesus prays, He does not "pray to Himself" but communicates as the Son to the Father. This reflects the distinction of persons within the Trinity and Christ’s unique role as fully God and fully man.
Christ rebuked the Pharisees for their pride and hypocrisy, not for spiritual fatherhood. Paul refers to himself as a spiritual father in 1 Corinthians 4:15 ('I have begotten you through the gospel') and Philemon 1:10 ('I became the father of Onesimus'). Spiritual fatherhood reflects guiding others in Christ, not inequality. We’re equal in dignity but have different roles in the Body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:4-27)." You cannot be the arbiter of the truth. This is where mot Protestants fall. Most of them they cherry pick verses and develop their own "theologies".
Ecaxtly what Christ rebuked the pahrisees for is what he would rebuke you too. By the way, Paul never said "call me your father"? And they hated him and rebelled against him, so they definitely never used the word for him. We're all equal in Christ. That's why Christs rebuke applies to you also.
"Christ rebuked the Pharisees for their pride and hypocrisy, not for spiritual fatherhood. Paul refers to himself as a spiritual father in 1 Corinthians 4:15 ('I have begotten you through the gospel') and Philemon 1:10 ('I became the father of Onesimus'). Spiritual fatherhood reflects guiding others in Christ, not inequality. We’re equal in dignity but have different roles in the Body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:4-27)."
@@holyresurrectionofchrist Why are you to arbitrator of the truth? That's sectarian. Tolerating other believers in Christ is a necessity for not constituting a sect. Is Irenaues a heretic? He taught chilaism. Chrysostom a cesationist. Augustine a monergist. If you can't tolerate those views, by necessity you'd have to put those three in catechism.
Nonsense! CONTEXT! Jesus said that ONE TIME in all of scripture. To whom: The Pharisees! He said it to NO ONE ELSE. Why? Because it was the Pharisees who constantly JUSTIFIED themselves via their bloodline to Abraham, even though their actions were evil. READ YOUR BIBLE and stop abusing it! The Lord judges those who judge. He Himself called men "fathers." Paul called himself the "Father" of the Corinthians (1 Cor. 4) and also of Timothy and Titus. You are accusing, judging, condemning brother and sister whom you should hold as being superior to yourself. Philippians 2:1-3. READ IT! Your words accuse. We know that the evil one accuses. (Rev. 12:10)
I just found this channel quite by accident. As a moderate Protestant looking at this from the outside, I can totally understand this. Thank you for this message.
I always was searching for an answer to this question! Glory to Christ ☦️
Thank you,as I am a former lifelong Baptist,and love the Lord Jesus Christ.and now I am a complete Christian and worship Him through the ministry of the Byzantine Catholic Church,I was chrismated in 2024 Glory to Jesus Christ ☦️
The beauty ( where beauty is Truth ) of Orthodoxy, is that we read the Word of God holistically, as demonstrated in this beautiful sermon, not clinging onto one verse and turning that into dogma. It would be spiritual blindness and prideful stubbornness for me to fail to assimilate other supporting evidence in the scriptures. May Christ our Lord keep my eyes and ears open to understand His message. God bless your mission.
Honestly every time this gets brought up all I can think is this.
"What am I supposed to call my dad, Bro?
@@AnonymousMan115 Parent one or parent two! 😁
@@ninoslavtrifunovic7038 hahahaha
@@ninoslavtrifunovic7038 You KNOW Parent One is mom.
Thank you for the clarification on this subject.
“For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.”
Matthew 15:4 KJV
Amin aliluya
☦️
Thank you for teaching us father.
(i like listening to your voice and i would like to hear your breath (breath is spirit in my laungees) the music in the background is sometime nosie for me)
Not always, but today in particular, your important message is difficult to sift from the music. I have a little trouble hearing now that I’m older. May God bless you.
Well when you read Matthew in context with the prophets Jesus says the same thing God said to the Exiles in Ezekiel,
“Perceiving this, Jesus said ‘You of little faith, why are you talking amongst yourselves about having no bread? Do you still not understand or remember the five loaves that fed the five thousand and how many baskets you took up? Or do you not remember the seven loaves for the four thousand and how many baskets you took up? How is it that you do not understand that I was not speaking to you about physical bread? But beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees!’
Then they understood that he had not told them to beware of the yeast of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Saduccees.”
Which then points to
“Indeed I tell you unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees you will by no means enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.”
Which then makes Jesus go on to say “ you see that, what they just did? Don’t do that be better than that.” Aka Matt 23:9
(EOB: New Testament)
The Power and wisdom of the Triune God truly is unmatched
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood…..”
Note: Jesus said, "Call no man YOUR father" Note: YOUR Father. Jesus said this ONE TIME in all of scripture. He said it to one group of people: the Pharisees. Why? The Pharisees infamously diverted money set aside for their mother and FATHER so that they could use it on themselves. Read Matthew 23! They made void the Commandment! Note: He DID NOT SAY IT TO: Apostles, disciples, Sadducees or anyone else. PAUL!!! Called himself the "FATHER" of the Corinthians (1 Cor. 4:15). He called himself the FATHER of Timothy, Titus and Onesimus and used the term "father" and "fathers" numerous times.
Sadly, this is a false and malicious post-reformation accusation used to divide Christians by JUDGING them. It is not of God. Rather, it was incited by the accuser (Revelation 12:10).
I have a question!
For context, I've been raised LDS and a year ago, the Lord allowed me to see the truth. Since then, I've actively been disagreeing with the LDS doctrine, and it has caused my mother to have me talk to the bishop in the LDS church, because "I'm confused."
During the talk, the bishop asked me what i believed in, and I said, "That Jesus is God."
Then he asked me, "If the Trinity is true, then why God pray to himself?"
How should anyone respond to this?
"The question misunderstands the nature of the Trinity and the Incarnation. The Trinity teaches that there is one God in three persons-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-who are distinct yet of the same essence. When Jesus prays, He prays as the Son to the Father. This reflects His relationship within the Trinity and His role as fully human and fully divine.
As the incarnate Word (John 1:14), Jesus took on human nature and, in His humanity, expressed dependence on the Father, modeling prayer and obedience for us. His prayers do not mean He is 'praying to Himself' but that the Son, distinct in person, communicates with the Father in perfect unity and love."
The question "If the Trinity is true, then why does God pray to Himself?" arises from a misunderstanding of the doctrine of the Trinity and the Incarnation of Christ. The Trinity teaches that God is one in essence but exists eternally as three distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19). These persons are not separate gods but share the same divine essence, while also having unique roles in the economy of salvation.
God is one in essence (οὐσία) and three in persons (ὑποστάσεις): the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These persons are distinct yet share the same divine essence, existing eternally in a relationship of love. This understanding of the Trinity is central to Orthodox theology and is affirmed by the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed (the Symbol of Faith).
Jesus’ prayers to the Father highlight this relational distinction within the Trinity. His prayers are not contradictions but expressions of the eternal love and communion between the Father and the Son, particularly as revealed in the economy of salvation.
When Jesus prays, He does not "pray to Himself" but communicates as the Son to the Father. This reflects the distinction of persons within the Trinity and Christ’s unique role as fully God and fully man.
@@holyresurrectionofchrist thanks! 🙏
I don't care how it's twisted I'm NOT going to call another flawed human sinnner "Father".
"they sought personal glory through titles rather than humbly serving God" so Orthodox church fathers?
Christ rebuked the Pharisees for their pride and hypocrisy, not for spiritual fatherhood. Paul refers to himself as a spiritual father in 1 Corinthians 4:15 ('I have begotten you through the gospel') and Philemon 1:10 ('I became the father of Onesimus'). Spiritual fatherhood reflects guiding others in Christ, not inequality. We’re equal in dignity but have different roles in the Body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:4-27)." You cannot be the arbiter of the truth. This is where mot Protestants fall. Most of them they cherry pick verses and develop their own "theologies".
Ecaxtly what Christ rebuked the pahrisees for is what he would rebuke you too. By the way, Paul never said "call me your father"? And they hated him and rebelled against him, so they definitely never used the word for him. We're all equal in Christ. That's why Christs rebuke applies to you also.
"Christ rebuked the Pharisees for their pride and hypocrisy, not for spiritual fatherhood. Paul refers to himself as a spiritual father in 1 Corinthians 4:15 ('I have begotten you through the gospel') and Philemon 1:10 ('I became the father of Onesimus'). Spiritual fatherhood reflects guiding others in Christ, not inequality. We’re equal in dignity but have different roles in the Body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:4-27)."
You cannot be the arbiter of the truth. This is where mot Protestants fall. Most of them they cherry pick verses and develop their own "theologies"
@@holyresurrectionofchrist And not one of the roles is described as being a "father." Beloved, he never said "call me your father."
@@holyresurrectionofchrist Why are you to arbitrator of the truth? That's sectarian. Tolerating other believers in Christ is a necessity for not constituting a sect. Is Irenaues a heretic? He taught chilaism. Chrysostom a cesationist. Augustine a monergist. If you can't tolerate those views, by necessity you'd have to put those three in catechism.
Nonsense! CONTEXT! Jesus said that ONE TIME in all of scripture. To whom: The Pharisees! He said it to NO ONE ELSE. Why? Because it was the Pharisees who constantly JUSTIFIED themselves via their bloodline to Abraham, even though their actions were evil. READ YOUR BIBLE and stop abusing it! The Lord judges those who judge. He Himself called men "fathers." Paul called himself the "Father" of the Corinthians (1 Cor. 4) and also of Timothy and Titus. You are accusing, judging, condemning brother and sister whom you should hold as being superior to yourself. Philippians 2:1-3. READ IT! Your words accuse. We know that the evil one accuses. (Rev. 12:10)