The less power thing is nice, less heat and more stable sounds okay after the issues Intel has been having. But yeah, the higher price is insane as I am sure most people are going to choose higher performance at a cheaper price
Intel abandoned the Core i series with legendary monolithic Ring Bus that Sandy Bridge started back in 2011 (2600K), Intel replaced their high IPC low latency architectures with chiplet/tile garbage.
Same architecture, it's just adapted for the consumer market. They clearly went for efficiency instead of performance like they did with Alder and Raptor
@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 But lower Performance. 14.gen is stronger. And the gamers are interested in only Performance and more fps. They don't care about electrecity bill.
Like AMD Zen 1, this is Intels "zen1" They've finally woken up and joined the better power per watt race. With in a year or 2 there's gonna be stiff competition again.
Unlike Zen1 which had a good price and made people wanna buy AMDs new product the Ultra series from Intel does NOT sell for a good price. It will sell extremely poorly. Intel is in alot of trouble.
@@seanefstratiou7372 They didn't really, the gains are just TSMC 3nm and the perf/watt is still lower than AMDs, despite their CPUs being on an older node...AMD leads in performance, temps and wattage.
I want something with more than 8 cores that can at least game as well as 13th and 14th Gen with lower power with all cores being on the same die. Arrow Lake was the only hope but the IMC being on a separate tile killed latency and its worse for gaming overall. Unless you can overclocks interconnect to get it on par. Otherwise only choice are unstable Arrow Lake or dual CCD scheduling issues and crap AMD X3D for more than 8 cores.
@@kevinyoliveira68 Raptor Lake is a stability and degradation nightmare. And Arrow Lake latency cripples performance. And even Arrow Lake may not be stable too!! Yikes.
While we get about 30 fps less on average Ultra takes up to 10 % more workload while GPU's workload decreases by up to 10 %. GPUs power consumption also drops even if not much if you take substantially lower CPU power consumption (compared to non-Ultra units) you can cut your energy bills quite a bit. 20 % fps drops with considerably lower power consumption is a win in my book taking current power pricing into consideration. You can still comfortably play games knowing your next power bill (next year, depending how your provider calculates your consumption) will be lighter. Some with their parent's money/loaded with cash, are blindly/dead set on highest performance. But gamers with tight budgets should think about switching to Ultra branch.
I wont be surprised if some of the performance problems are related to Windows scheduling issues (which could be fixed) especially after learning these Ultra chips perform much better in Linux.
Apparently recent updates have increased gaming performance by up to 20% in some titles. Still slower than a 9800x3d of course, but you get the slightly higher compatibility rating with some programs going intel and the 265k is about $100 CAD cheaper than a 9800x3d and in stock in my area.
The guys who scream about AMD processors...are just playing games - we are using PCs for other things also where AMD is still weak. Try a maya3d rendering or something where intel has a 248% increase vs amd
265k testing in new install windows or put in system with old instaled win? Jn new win 265k have a 10-15% more efficiency according to some testers....
You all need to wait for the next generation of GPUs to fully take advantage of all the new features on the LGA 1851. I used to compare this things to driving a Ferrari in a heavy traffic jam 🤷🏻♂️
I think you can add items the displayed data from CPUZ or Aida64 to MSI afterburner, I used to know how to do it- If you search for it its pretty easy to do - wish I could remember more.
You all forget that Intel never stated that their CPU's goal was gaming, go buy an X3D for that, it's not that hard Funny how people were complaining about high temps and now that Intel are trying to get it right after so many years, they are shitting on them... you guys will never be happy. the 265k beats the 14700k in multithreading despite the facts that it doesn't have multithreading technology anymore. Next ultras will be focused on better performance. With 50w more margine they could have just raise the performances but it was the correct idea not too. That's the right way for Intel. You will come back crawling anyway in 2-3 years like you usually do
These CPU’s are powerful only problem is for the 15th gen since none of yall know you need special ram for it it’s called cu dimm ddr5 gives it way more power more fps but I don’t think testing games is using this special ram probably just basic ddr5 ram so the new cpu isn’t being utilized properly unfortunately
I know the out of box details but what I mean is the all core frequency during heavy load because Intel never mention that in the website or box since it's part of there marketing strategy unles everyone has to test it.
Hands down the worst Intel launch I've ever seen and I've had Intel since the Pentium 100mhz days, lol. Slightly less power w/ less performance. I love how they only made a small batch to give the illusion that these are good chips by being sold out day 1. What a horrible joke.
Ram speed is too low for the 265k to truly come into its element. Based on testing it’s recommended to run at least 7200mhz ram with it despite intel saying the max that chip supports is 6400mhz
Dont forget the 265k cpu running at 5.2ghz as opposed to the rated 5.5ghz turbo. The 14700k is locked at it's turbo speed, why wouldn't you do the same for the 265k?
el i7-12700kf sigue siendo mejor procesador calidad-precio de la historia de intel, todo lo que viene demas es refrito del refrito del refrito inestabilidad
What Intel did is not understandable, i cant understand also... Who cares about -20w less power consumption and who cares about those -5%/-10% performance loss? Who cares about super high price of slower new gen? Dafaq rly. No one cares about -20% lower power consumption, while care about performance and normal price most.
Anything that isn't monolithic Ring Bus for gaming (basically the Core i series) is fundamentally flawed for gaming. Includes the X3D chips because you increase perfomance while spending like 100-200USD more than vainilla X versions, *cache is not cheap* .
Must be a bad feeling if you blindly and stubbornly buy anything intel just because. You have to make sensible purchases regardless of brand. You have to think about the long term investment as well.
This is an epic FAIL and downgrade of Intel for more price! THe new "Ultra" generation is seems like the next processor for fools. Thanks to author and his testing for keep my eyes open!
Games :
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - 0:00
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 0:58
Forza Horizon 5 - 2:04
Starfield - 3:11
CS2 - 4:14
PUBG - 5:11
Star Wars Outlaws - 6:16
Hogwarts Legacy - 7:12
Ghost of Tsushima - 8:12
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 9:15
System:
Windows 11
Core Ultra 7 265K
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NPU's and igpus are useless ,we need better cores and threads !!!
lets test 14700k vs 285k
Por favor tienes que tener 32 GB de Ram ya
less power, less performance. more price 😍
@@EnreL- 😂😂😂 ultra chips sound good only for laptops
For games
Intel in a nutshell
The less power thing is nice, less heat and more stable sounds okay after the issues Intel has been having. But yeah, the higher price is insane as I am sure most people are going to choose higher performance at a cheaper price
@@MaTtRoSiTy nobody buying that shit. 9600X is far better.
Intel Core Ultra Error Lake
It's a younger downgrade for higher price? What happened here? 😢
@@ookalmioo lol, see the Watts. All ultra chips are for this only.
Intels higher power chips were bugging out so they had to take a step back
@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars exactly 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Intel abandoned the Core i series with legendary monolithic Ring Bus that Sandy Bridge started back in 2011 (2600K), Intel replaced their high IPC low latency architectures with chiplet/tile garbage.
@@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars But if you using only default mode, don't OC - it still be okay for Intel CPU gen 14
AMD: less power higher performance 🗿
INTEL: less power less perfomance 🤡
No way......😢😅😂
In AMD's case, it's more like "less power, same performance" in terms of gaming.
Bulldozer ……😂
@@PatrykkPlay thats just non 3d 7000/9000
It seems that Intel did not deal with the gamer community when developing this processor
Yeah, their focus was on server, so low power draw
No... these are not server cpus, thats Xeon. They straight up failed with the Ultra series.
Same architecture, it's just adapted for the consumer market. They clearly went for efficiency instead of performance like they did with Alder and Raptor
@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 But lower Performance. 14.gen is stronger. And the gamers are interested in only Performance and more fps. They don't care about electrecity bill.
I don't argue that, feels a bit like Bulldozer after Phenom II, sadly
Like AMD Zen 1, this is Intels "zen1" They've finally woken up and joined the better power per watt race. With in a year or 2 there's gonna be stiff competition again.
Unlike Zen1 which had a good price and made people wanna buy AMDs new product the Ultra series from Intel does NOT sell for a good price. It will sell extremely poorly. Intel is in alot of trouble.
@@Stance1988 Granted, Intel is way more greedy, but I'm talking purely on a tech base, glad intel joined the power per watt race.
@@seanefstratiou7372 They didn't really, the gains are just TSMC 3nm and the perf/watt is still lower than AMDs, despite their CPUs being on an older node...AMD leads in performance, temps and wattage.
At least it looks like they're getting the power consumption and thermals in check... I guess.
So.. Now it's like Ryzen 7 7800X3D, but worse
@@Abobus-xp8ch So, thats a improvement
The only use case for 15th gen is if you want efficiency and lower temps for production work but also do some gaming
That isn't called 15th gen!
It's core ultra series now. (Horrible name btw)
I want something with more than 8 cores that can at least game as well as 13th and 14th Gen with lower power with all cores being on the same die. Arrow Lake was the only hope but the IMC being on a separate tile killed latency and its worse for gaming overall. Unless you can overclocks interconnect to get it on par.
Otherwise only choice are unstable Arrow Lake or dual CCD scheduling issues and crap AMD X3D for more than 8 cores.
@@Wolverine607 ? Have at least a i7-14700K then...
@@kevinyoliveira68 Raptor Lake is a stability and degradation nightmare. And Arrow Lake latency cripples performance. And even Arrow Lake may not be stable too!! Yikes.
@@Wolverine607 5 years of guarantee bro...
While we get about 30 fps less on average Ultra takes up to 10 % more workload while GPU's workload decreases by up to 10 %. GPUs power consumption also drops even if not much if you take substantially lower CPU power consumption (compared to non-Ultra units) you can cut your energy bills quite a bit. 20 % fps drops with considerably lower power consumption is a win in my book taking current power pricing into consideration. You can still comfortably play games knowing your next power bill (next year, depending
how your provider calculates your consumption) will be lighter. Some with their parent's money/loaded with cash, are blindly/dead set on highest performance. But gamers with tight budgets should think about switching to Ultra branch.
sooo core ultra just undevolt version of 14 gen??
Without HT too
it does use less power
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 at least intel must learn about 12 gen??? it less power too but gain huge perf from AMD at release
Zen 5% consumes even less power and performance is good. 9950x is a beast in non gaming stuff tbh.
Why is your ultra 7 only running at 5.2 vs the rated 5.5?
I wont be surprised if some of the performance problems are related to Windows scheduling issues (which could be fixed) especially after learning these Ultra chips perform much better in Linux.
Apparently recent updates have increased gaming performance by up to 20% in some titles. Still slower than a 9800x3d of course, but you get the slightly higher compatibility rating with some programs going intel and the 265k is about $100 CAD cheaper than a 9800x3d and in stock in my area.
The guys who scream about AMD processors...are just playing games - we are using PCs for other things also where AMD is still weak. Try a maya3d rendering or something where intel has a 248% increase vs amd
keep coping UB
みんな、インテルのおかげで新しいX3Dを待つ決心がついた
265k testing in new install windows or put in system with old instaled win? Jn new win 265k have a 10-15% more efficiency according to some testers....
new patch came out for cyberpunk 2077 that is claiming it boosts performance up to 33% with arrow-lake cpu's, can you do a test with new patch?
Which Bios do you use for i7 14700k? it is a latest 0x12B microcode?
850$ for lower fps and 40W less consumption. Disgusting 🤮🤮
Wait, What $850 ?
The 14700k or the other one?
@@jaico132you need a new motherboard too
@@BruhMomentPatrick ow i thought the price of it’s own processor is $850.
@@jaico132 well yeah, core ultra is on LGA 1851
@@jaico132 New socket
What CPU cooler are you using on these processors? Greetings from Argentina.
It will make a good laptop CPU with that low power consumption.
Which bios version is the Z790 running?
Do Alchemist iGPU vs RDNA 2 iGPU next
legit closer to getting a 265k now that they are 40 dollars cheaper than the 14700k at microcenter
At The End the winner is AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 🗿
how can you comment that keyword
5800x3D is the true winner here
@@randomdude8894 *5700X3D
Wanted take a look at the latest tests? Jays two cents found the problem
The ryzen 7 7800x3d is literally the most expensive cpu in the world right now
You all need to wait for the next generation of GPUs to fully take advantage of all the new features on the LGA 1851. I used to compare this things to driving a Ferrari in a heavy traffic jam 🤷🏻♂️
The cpu temperature is very good and super low. Do you undervolt the cpu?
I'd be "worried" about Arrow Lake if the top end of it wasn't sold out everywhere and 12th gen wasn't still available new.
I like intel ❤ and I love new intel ultra
why is the 265k running 5200mhz and not its rated 5500mhz in this test video?
How can I open the fps counters at the top?
If you have Nvidia graphics press Alt+R
I'm curious if 12th gen is faster than core ultra at this point
It's clearly not. Cheaper by far, absolutely but not faster. I don't think the 12900k beats the 265k in a single test.
Not a single win for the newer cpu…. Pathetic.
Yeah, will not be upgrading to this failure
The only win is the significant lower wattage and temperature
it’s the price that kills this launch. if they priced it at the same or lower than 14700k it would be a hit.
Whats about testing with new Intel APO driver for Ultra 200 in Cyberpunk_2077??
Hi, can you tell me how to display the data? I assume with MSI Afterburner but how can you display E Core and P Core?
I think you can add items the displayed data from CPUZ or Aida64 to MSI afterburner, I used to know how to do it- If you search for it its pretty easy to do - wish I could remember more.
You all forget that Intel never stated that their CPU's goal was gaming, go buy an X3D for that, it's not that hard
Funny how people were complaining about high temps and now that Intel are trying to get it right after so many years, they are shitting on them... you guys will never be happy. the 265k beats the 14700k in multithreading despite the facts that it doesn't have multithreading technology anymore.
Next ultras will be focused on better performance. With 50w more margine they could have just raise the performances but it was the correct idea not too. That's the right way for Intel. You will come back crawling anyway in 2-3 years like you usually do
Смешно...
AMD Ryzen 7800X3D can get you lower wattage and higher fps 😎
Good for people who are playing at 1080p with a 2 000€ GPU 😁
@@Blacktrous You have a good point
@@Blacktrouswith dlss ...
Haha lol. 3d cache only Wild at 1080p@@Blacktrous
But, i think the 7950x3d was an exception coz it has powerful on multhreaded workloads too...
Try some programs like Revit, 3ds MAX, Blender, Unreal Engine etc. and then talk about performance. Its not all about gaming and fps....
This is not 15th gen.
This is 12.5th gen of intel “I” series.
The 15th gen is not already released yet and the year of release is Q4 2025
sad
Lmao
These CPU’s are powerful only problem is for the 15th gen since none of yall know you need special ram for it it’s called cu dimm ddr5 gives it way more power more fps but I don’t think testing games is using this special ram probably just basic ddr5 ram so the new cpu isn’t being utilized properly unfortunately
is the U5 and U7 have the same all core clock boost frequency of 5200?? The U9 is 5400 btw!!!
265 is 5.5ghz, 285 5.7 factory default
I know the out of box details but what I mean is the all core frequency during heavy load because Intel never mention that in the website or box since it's part of there marketing strategy unles everyone has to test it.
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 that's single core max turbo, not all P core
Great comparison. Which W11 are you using 23H2 or 24H2? If using 24H2, have you enabled Energy to High Performance?
Why? U7 26k P core 5.2GHz ???
I noticed 8000MT/s RAM has gone up in price for Intel and 6400MT/s RAM for AMD is starting to creep up too.
Core ultra consumes avg 30W less, good for laptops.
oh wow, you are saving so much power, you should build a power plant with that saved power.
@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 yeah, if pc runs 10 hours a day, I am saving 9KW a month. I assume in your country, electricity is free.
@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 😁
@@nocopyrightgameplaystockvi231 garbage
@@nocopyrightgameplaystockvi231 which country are you from brother ? in my country india electricity is total free😃
No difference, no big temp difference but big flop from Intel good job.
to be fair amd was crap was am5 first come out, so i'll say wait to updates etc and should be good i hope.
I'm curious how it performs without ecores.
not better
you shouldnt
id keep at least 4ecores, if the motherboard allows such settings
Actually it's the opposite. This CPU will perform much better if you disable your P-cores and you let only 1 P-core run.
It's basically the same gen with different names
Turning off the hyper threading is really a disaster move
Не отключение. Intel физически удалили блоки отвечающие за Hiper threading из ядер процессора. В этом проблема. Это уже никак не испоавить.
with CU-DIMM memory is the performance better on the new intel chips seems..
How can you not test Microsoft flight simulator which is one of the most cpu bottlenecked games?
they all great cpus, including ryzens
in sense of 'driving' rtx4090
Hands down the worst Intel launch I've ever seen and I've had Intel since the Pentium 100mhz days, lol. Slightly less power w/ less performance. I love how they only made a small batch to give the illusion that these are good chips by being sold out day 1. What a horrible joke.
а если со средней картой их протестировать, например 3060, то будут другие проценты?
К примеру 4070 ti super
Intel is not cooking.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!!
Só Regresso
Ram speed is too low for the 265k to truly come into its element. Based on testing it’s recommended to run at least 7200mhz ram with it despite intel saying the max that chip supports is 6400mhz
Dont forget the 265k cpu running at 5.2ghz as opposed to the rated 5.5ghz turbo. The 14700k is locked at it's turbo speed, why wouldn't you do the same for the 265k?
all people sayin sh*ts in the comments about intel don't remember zen 1
When the Ryzen 8000 comes out, it will be a massacre.
14th cpu Generation vs 1st new cpu generation - who would win?
Торговые сети.
Торговые сети
Core Ultra
guess i will be keeping my 11700k another year at least.
Стоит протестировать Core Ultra 7 265K с включенными Е-ядрами и отключенными.
the main thing is that the blue guys do not artificially reduce the 14th gen
6 seconds in and you're showing DLSS is set to Balanced. 6. Seconds.
This supposed to be a cpu test.
You failed in *6 seconds* .
It used more watts but also did higher fps
Outel!
price is main problem
thats correct, i think if you do have 1000$ for proc and board, ryzen 9700x is hard to miss esp if you dont know/want to oc
why compare a cpu designed for AI work, with a gaming cpu? compare them doing AI computation and the ultra cores will leave any other cpu in the dust
265k vs 9900x pls
the 265k has better performance in games... that's insane.
97% utilization of a 4090 is cool though
The best gaming processor from Intel is the 14700k.
Por debajo del Amd ryzen 7 3D
@@archivoespanols.a6309Ryzen 7?
Ryzen 9 😂
@@saricubra2867Ryzen 7 7800X3D better than 9 7950X (non 3D)
@@archivoespanols.a6309 Well him said Intel...
el mejor procesador es el 12700kf
i think seem the golden era for intel only on 12gen🤔🤔
Wow the new chip of intel were disappointing in both performance and power
Core ultra 200 help in productivity it needs patches to fix
Less performance but more price WTF?
🤣 now i use 13600kf i guess i can try 14700k after -1-2 years but in 2k not really need i think!
id stick with that, unless youre planning to buy 360hz led, or want to have cpu without needing to upgrade for a long time
el i7-12700kf sigue siendo mejor procesador calidad-precio de la historia de intel, todo lo que viene demas es refrito del refrito del refrito inestabilidad
i7 3770k : i am a joke to you?
...es gibt so ein Lied - Ich find dich $cheiße. Also, das ist genau dieser Fall ^^
Consumo y temperatura es la mejora
The hyper threaded version which will just be a 14700k will be 200 $ more😅
What Intel did is not understandable, i cant understand also... Who cares about -20w less power consumption and who cares about those -5%/-10% performance loss? Who cares about super high price of slower new gen? Dafaq rly. No one cares about -20% lower power consumption, while care about performance and normal price most.
the de-evolution of CPU
Burada walt değerleri daha önemli,intel ultra 7 265k daha serin çalışıyor,❤
Compare 265k to 9700x and Intel will curbstomp it in every meaningful metric.
At it's price, compare it to the 9900x
The architecture is clearly flawed, intel is doomed
Anything that isn't monolithic Ring Bus for gaming (basically the Core i series) is fundamentally flawed for gaming.
Includes the X3D chips because you increase perfomance while spending like 100-200USD more than vainilla X versions, *cache is not cheap* .
@@saricubra2867 it costs them like $30-40 to add the extra cache, just take a look at the price of the 5700X3D vs 5700X (both are still in production)
Cheap excuses are cheap.
And Intel 14700K price same with 245K here..😁
Core Ultra 7 265K : CELERON
Higher price but less performance. Nahhh something ain't right here man
We are waiting for optimization, attention may be banned on steam
Intel is RIP now.
I mean at this point just shut it down. its a joke of a company.
Must be a bad feeling if you blindly and stubbornly buy anything intel just because. You have to make sensible purchases regardless of brand. You have to think about the long term investment as well.
14700k new cpu !^_^
This is an epic FAIL and downgrade of Intel for more price! THe new "Ultra" generation is seems like the next processor for fools. Thanks to author and his testing for keep my eyes open!
WTF Intel did now ? Perfomance 0% TDP and Cost 100% AMD is leader for all!