increased catch rate??!?! dude with the effort strategy and cost to even have CHANCE to defeat these pokemons it should be guaranteed catch bloody hell
1:08 it’s important to say that the people who did it with 9 said that it was an awful experience and took an extremely long time and took a lot of resources. They also said they would never attempt it again with just 9 people
Everyone talks about rural like you have to live in the sticks to have no community. I live in a large suburban sprawl that connects two cities in the UK. It’s not rural but I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve been able to join a legendary raid in person. Occasionally I see a few people on community day but people generally keep themselves to themselves. I use remote raids to catch one of each legendary for the Pokédex. I’m not even thinking about gmax.
As someone who starting to just pvp , even with the stardust buff I can't see a world I have enough resources to do both. Powering up new mons for Great League, let alone Ultra and Master - I just don't have the time or mental to do both. Unlocking a great league mon can sometimes be 50k stardust for a move and an additional 110k per mon to power up. Just feels like I'mma have to wait til the majority of the community who does these has maxxed out mons to be carried but that feels bad and still would take years, not even guaranteed to happen either.
I have no rush doing this, sorry I have no intention of getting with a group of 40! Have I lost my mind? I intend to slowly build an amazing team in a year or 2...and try that when I have a team of level 50 Metagross with the legacy move on, there is no reason to try before that point, and there is no rush at all, these Pokémons are completely useless outside this system anyway. this system is designed to grab money and a lot of it, now put all the tickets on top of that, and the regular cost to just do a regular event and this is starting to lose all propotions, it costs more than the Nintendo Switch, and there you can play on so many games. it's a joke.
I'd say if there is a group of 10-20 people near you on a Campfire meetup definitely try to join it if your intention is to get into G-max anyway in 2 years. They become so much easier to beat once you have 1 G-max pokemon, and you can just get that by just showing up and cheering with your wooloo's
@@Candyy248… if you got time to sit around n wait for everyone to turn up .Increase your hit rate you have to power up max monster 2/3 days before. 20 people have weak monsters you all get penalized, It sucks basically.
As a community admin I have a controversial take. My community has never been more alive, yes it's super hard but since covid we've never had 30+ people attend a meet up. Its so difficult that multiple community leaders had to pool together resources/trainers to get it done! I think this is exactly what Niantic was aiming for. Yes, solo & duo players will struggle. But this would maybe nudge them into going on Facebook/ campfire & finding small communities to battle with. Even if it's just once a month for Gigantamax.
What we found was that yes, you could do it with fewer people. We did 2 with 14 trainers. But that was after a number of those people had powered up, and everyone had caught G-max Gengars to field. I'm going to guess the fact I caught a hundo and immediately maxed everything on it helped. Also, the move set was such a lottery. Gengar is a glass cannon, so it's not hard to damage it. But it also hits hard. If it has dark pulse, metagross is wiped. And focus blast isn't much better. And murders greedent. And psychic hits other gengars badly, and so do ghost moves. The move set changes every time you try the same raid. So it's a lottery when you go in. You have to spend all this time accumulating enough people to do it, only to find it is using moves that specifically hurt the team you chanced on.
Seen a vid of a guy doing a 1 party(4 People) max battle against Gmax gengar(Fully maxed+Lv. 50), and they managed to get it down to about 30-40ish percent health(In the yellows), so it is definitely way easier. They were doing it with Metagrosses and Greedent. I haven't tried doing it against gmax gengar yet, but from my experience with the kanto starters, it seems that a pokemon's survivability is way more important than that a little bit extra damage.(Experienced this when going against Gmax Venusaur when I won it for my community purely because I brought high level metagrosses instead of them bringing their Gigantamax Charizards.) If that truly is the case, Metagross would be more favorable one against Gengar since it would survive way more than Gengar damage dealer wise. And to your point of how much of a lottery the moves Gmax gengar has feels, IDK about this but somebody told me that bringing Greedent, Metagross and Gengar might be an idea needed to be talked about since something like focus blast that would deal neutral to Metagross and supereffective to Greedent wouldn't deal a lot to Gengar, same goes for Poison type moves against Metagross and Ghost type moves against Greedent. But if this is the case, if your only mon that resist those move died during battle, you have no chance of doing anything significant to the Gmax gengar because you'll be dead since no one would tank the hits from it. So as somebody who already defeated Gmax Gengar, what is your opinion on bringing in Dmax Blastoise? Might not resist any move but no moves would deal supereffective to it either, it alsohas high defense and it can learn fast move bite which is a dark type that would deal supereffective damage to the Gengar.
My community took down all 3 Gmax starters with 20-22... probably 5 of those were irrelevent alts or kid accounts. The others were properly powered up. I spent half a mil in stardust last minute to get ready. Having trouble mustering the troups for Gengar which surprises me 😢
Unfortunately I live in my capital city, and there's still not enough players to gather a group large enough to take on one of these. I was very excited for the refreshing change that Dynamax was bringing, but to have it locked behind such a massive social wall really sucks.
Good thing is that they are Tradable, so aside like Special Research that may happen at some point, or some easier variants of this - you totally should treat it like Regionals and hopefully trade them over from other people, whenever you visit some bigger city with friendly players. It's not ideal, but at least it's some solution. I do feel like some of these will be at some point 4 people doable (Venusaur technically was), but you probably will need to max out some of the base DX Pokémon or use quad effectiveness (Excadrill for Toxtricity will be essential). Also if Campfire is available in your area - or will be, you should try checking there. There may be some bigger local community you are missing, especially on some other side of the city. And those definitely will come back, so you probably should be able to get stronger with other locals to finish them, when they return. Especially after they introduce some better counters like Carbink/Coalossal for Charizard.
When I heard the 25k stardust was part of the rewards, I thought that was good. I think also they should increase the number of candy you receive to a greater number, like 50 or 100. Thanks for experiencing and sharing G-MAX Gengar tips for us.
My local group managed to beat a handful of the kanto starter gmax raids with a group as large as 31 and as small as 18. Tips: 1. Power up your mons to level 30 or higher. This will not significantly boost your damage, but it will let you survive 3+ resisted moves from the gmax boss until your team hits the first Dynamax and can heal and shield. 2. Prioritize resisting the boss. Getting super effective damage is a nice benefit when possible, but dealing neutral damage is wholly acceptable if you get better resistances in return. Good resistances mean that you need to be healed less and your max guard shields go further allowing more damaging max attacks to be used during each Dynamax. 3. Max guard grants more temp hp to an individual mon than max spirit would heal it (max spirit hits every active Pokemon in your group, so it can heal more overall). Max guard also encourages the boss to attack shielded pokemon individually rather than spamming large attacks that hit everyone. Together, the regular use of max guard means that your team takes less damage overall, needs healed less frequently, and can deal damage more often. 4. Level up your max moves. While powering up your Pokémon makes it easier to make it to the first Dynamax without losing a mon, your overall survivability and damage output depends significantly on the level of your max moves. You don't necessarily have to go all the way to level 3, but try for level 2. 5. Sort out who is in groups together and communicate during the raid to make sure moves aren't "wasted" (2+ people using a max spirit when 1 use would've done the job).
Niantic needs to get this into their empty head already: rural players and disabled players need the help of remote players in this type of raids, shadow raids, elite raids, and so on. Like limit how many remote raids you can do in a day to I don't know 1 or 2 but let people join all this type of raids remotely.... Otherwise people will either quit this game, either start spoofing and trade what they get with their main accounts, AND this is what I started to do , and I will not apologize for saying it. I don't have any other way to get them, and I can't force people to start to play or just play with me either. So yeah I get them and trade them to my main account. So yeah at the end of day, Niantic is hurting their bussiness by either having players quit the game because is just not accesible to everyone either by turning most of them into spoofers.
This game is not intended for rural or disabled players... That's why they have the original Nintendo games.. at least that's what a lot of people told me when I complained.
If you live in a rural area, you probably don't have a flag football team nearby, or if you do, you probably have to travel miles to find another team to play against. If you are disabled, you may not have a sports program for people with disabilities at all, or maybe not for the sport you want to play. Pokemon Go is no different. It requires you to go outside and be mobile, and some aspects require group play. You can either travel to another location for group play, just like for sports, or you can pick a game designed for solo play.
The absolute hard part of G-max isnt the difficulty, it's catching the damned things. Imagine my mood after hooking up with the community to take down G-monsters and after spending all dem particles not one but two Blastoises just would not stay in the ball. I was pretty sour having spent 2.4k particles on my Max turtle, which you have to manage like a ninja to get the 1080 a day. Im a bit put off with regards to their fabulous new feature
Like... imagine explaining this game to a new player... "Yeah, no, they're not raids. They're kind of like raids, but a LOT tougher. There's forty people doing this together... No, yeah, you're in a team of 4, yes... but like, there's 10 other teams of 4 doing the same raid - er, I mean battle... Your mon got one-shot? Yeahhh, like I said they're really tough... But now you can dynamax... Oh, what? You have the wrong move? Oh, yeah, no it's based off the FAST move.... Yeah, no, you CHARGE up the max meter so you can use your max move that's the same type as your FAST move... Oh, all your guys have fainted? That's okay, you just -- yeah, no, you can't revive them.. just keep tapping your empty screen til that cheer button fills. It'll help your teammates. Who are your teammates? I dunno, they're SOMEWHERE here amongst the 40 of us blocking the sidewalk on this residential street because this power spot is someone's home office. Just keep tapping your empty screen for the next 5 minutes.... There, now you have a gigantamax Blastoise. It's pretty tanky, so it'll be good for Gengar... No, it doesn't get max darkness, it only gets max cannon... No, Bite won't turn into a --- yeah, no, I know what I said, but --- bite won't become max darkness on g-max blastoise... Because.......... G-max is, um... ... But, yeah, what do you think? Simple, right? Fun, yeah? Think you'll come back??"
Imagine thinking a Lv5 player SHOULD be doing a T6 gigantamax raid. Like just trade it to them. Maybe you should make sure they have A mega pokemon or even just a starter trio.
@@Frosty0-f4e Straw-manning a Lvl 5 player into the argument. Nice easy target you made for yourself there. Really showed me. I showed a Lvl 34 player the circle-lock technique on a Darkrai yesterday. "New" player can mean a lot of things. You can trade them your max mons. I'm one and done on these stupid things thanks x
The community close to where I live drove an hour out of town to find enough people that had time or cared to do the Gmax battles. So I'm going to have to pass again.
I think it helps that we have 1 target vs 3. The cap of daily mp really only allows to prepare for 1 in a weeks time so even those who had the idea to prepare for the trio weren't able
Tagman in Nz posted a video on his youtube of 4 of them with lv40+ counters & maxed moves doing about 70% damage (getting it well into the yellow). He reckons 2 more would have the made the difference & got it done. So it's looking like 6+ players is doable with the right counters against Gmax Genger with poison attacks. Difficulty I'm facing now is most the local players here are done with Gmax entirely after not being able to get close to taking one down after all the investment in less than great pokemon that we did last weekend. I can't say I blame them tbh, hoping I can find at least 5 others with powered up counters to give it a go, otherwise Gmax battles aren't happening for me anytime soon :(
We would have been so much better, if they released Drilbur before this... Or a stronger Normal / neutral Steel type, that could resist it well and counter back with SE hits. The issue right now is that Metagross and Gengar are weak to Ghost moves, resist all Poison really well. Regular (!) Blastoise resists nothing, but is the strongest offensive option. And then Greedent is just too weak to carry it, but it is the strongest Normal type with a Max Quake.
I feel like maybe they need two different levels depending on your area, if your in a big city it should be harder 20 people or so needed but maybe if you live in a rural area you should be able to get a less powerful version you can take down with like 5-10 people as I didn’t even try and get the starters as I knew there wouldn’t be enough people locally
Have two Hundo D Gengars so I powered them to Lvl 40 and 2-1-1 Max Powers. Already have a Hundo Dubwool at 2-2-2 as a healer shielder. Gengar is my favorite creature so I want to take a swing. We'll see where I can find a group. But I have a wedding to attend so timing may be an issue. Thanks for rhe tips
Lots of players leave the Battle once all their Pokemon have fainted. They should stay and Cheer! It still does damage and may be the difference between failing the battle and winning the battle for the whole group!
Looking forward to more D Max battles, leaving G Max alone. So not worth it. I will be asking for G Max Pokemon in Lucky trades to hopefully get them that way just for collection. Hope Niantic further nerfs them to be more accessible. Thanks for the info Zoe. :)
First of all, Happy Diwali to those who is celebrate it. Today is the Diwali Festival.🕯 Oh no, Niantic is not organized Light Festival this year Pokemon Go game event. I shall challenge Niantic to do double in game event for Pokemon Go for example, Halloween & Light Festival event at once. This is never to be happen in Pokemon Go until shut down!
Even as a rural player I really enjoy the mechanics of d/g maxing and spent the weeks leading up harvesting max 1,080 daily and powering up my moves. The galling part was the absolute leap in difficulty forcing me to drive hours to get a big enough group. If it was that a group of 4 lvl 50 max counters playing optimally could do it then I'd be 💯 on board but taking a minimum of 10 is my entire local community and then some all needing to invest far more than the casuals in our group are interested in.... One of my main raid buddies bounced off the difficulty so bad they just trashed the DMAX they didn't want to keep IVs for and stopped playing max battles altogether.
On the other hand it doesn't have any good resisting Pokémon for the Ghosts moves. Greedent is literally the strongest available Pokémon we have right now. Metagross/Gengar being the best ones weak to Ghost and regular Blastoise being the strongest neutrally hit attacker. Compare it to Venusaur that was fully countered by Metagross and partially by Charizard and you have major difference there. GX mons shouldn't have been released for at least next 6 months, really (well at least some of us can just forget about them after this). There should have been like Carbink or Larvitar release before Charizard. And we totally would have been way better with like Snorlax and Sandile (or even just Drilbur) released before the Gengar.
At the end of the day they’ve improved it but not enough. There is no reason to lock them from being remoteable, I will argue this point daily (or until I get bored lol)
Wouldn't be suprised, if these become Special Research rewards at some point, not to mention they all are tradeable, so in my book smaller communities people, should just consider them as regionals they have to trade for like once per year.
Maybe I’m just an optimist, but I love the strategy aspect of the battles. I also love the fact that it forces the community to interact with one another more to attempt to bring down the boss.
An online mechanic to these is the only real way to save this. Make it each max spot have an online matchmaking for others at max spots to make it more reasonable. Gen 8 was so fun for me with sword and shield it’s a shame to see them ruin it in PoGo
g-max blastoise doesnt get a dark max attack, dont use g-max blastoise, only d-max! the difference with g-max gengar having poison moves to for example ghost moves is MASSIVE, its much easier when it has poison and significantly harder if it has ghost moves since our gengars and metagrosses will drop like flies. I bet that was the main difference between your battle 1 and 2
Unironically, if we had more time - getting those lvl 40/50 Greedents would have been the way to go for the Ghost moves. I genuinely don't understand why at least Drilbur wasn't released a little bit earlier. Larvitar instead of Falinks would also have helped a lot with both Charizard and Gengar. Not to mention some hard counters like Sandile or Diggersby, they had opportunity to introduce, but oh well.
A group of 40 isn't failing if they have evolved mons with STAB moves, no Dyna move levels needed. Our 40 squads had a lot of kids and more casual players with less optimized setups and we were successfull. A failing 40 squad has just too many people with no investment into it.
Dark attack bite only works on dynamax Blastoise not gigantamax Blastoise. It uses the water type gmax attack, it might be a bug but I saw gameplay and they confirmed it.
Some of the Kanto GX were disproportionately easier/harder than the others. Namely Charizard had all the blasting moves and even Dragon Claw usually hit with good neutral damage - taking even the fire resistant Pokémon with ease. But most importantly - we did not have any Max Rockfall users. Have they released DX Larvitar or Stonjourner or Carbink (especially good for all moves) or even some silly Sudowoodo - instead of the damn Falinks, people would have had a better experience. We had no Pokémon that resisted Charizard properly beyond Blastoise and frail Inteleon, which at the time didnt feel proper to train even. I have actually heard of groups of 4 being able to finish Venusaur, as Metagross fully counters it and Charizard mostly counters it. And those were the strongest Pokémon everyone had at the time, due to training them for Beldum and Falinks raids. Blastoise was also partly countered by those Metagrosses (Ice Beam on Blastoise), but for that you had to have teams of like 10-15 to properly heal up. Most important they are crazy for releasing first 3 GX during the same event, on only 2 days, with no Particle limits taken off, it was the biggest cashgrab since the beginning of the game! This should have been done in order, starting with Venusaur and finishing with Charizard and in a span of months, with a Stardust event in between. And the Particle event just should be twice as big for the whole game. Or at the very least for the rest of the Maz Out season (still 2400 or 3200 would have been way better limits to have).
I managed to do my first gmax raid (gengar) today in NZ. Had to travel into the cbd though and probably had 38 people. Raid went super fast. I can't really see myself using this feature often as I don't have a large enough community nearby unless I travel into the CBD as raids will still probably require a fair amount of people.
Does star piece work to boost the 25k reward? I remember lucky egg not working on some of the xp rewards for tier1 dynamax raids so just wanted to double check before using a star piece for these giga raids
Yeah, i won’t be attempting these until there is the inevitable special research that teaches you how to do this. Even then, i’m just not interested in GMax enough to really spend the resources and try. I think having a strategy element to raiding is a great idea, horrible implementation.
The last time I saw a video of yours it was you capturing a 98% IV gigantamax charizard with very little joy as if you had hatched a 100 egg machop, I thought you were more clever
1:50 Btw. there is literally no point of picking and upgrading GMAX forms. Their moves aren't seemingly any better and lack the effects (they all should at least lower Attack or Defence or something - have like the Shadow/Party buff). Regular forms are also more versatile, as you can pick out of all the Fast Moves bases DMAX moves. 2:50 There shouldn't be any catch-rate mechanics for it. Dynamax Raids and Tera Raids - usually had 100% rates and this is scammy for them to give them such low rates. Especially as you are directly wasting Particles for it. 3:15 My bet is that they did nothing, but Gengars are naturally weaker. Still they should be cursed for not introducing any valid counters. It's ridiculous that Greedent is literally the strongest proper counter for the Ghost side.😮
Honestly I think everyone is overreacting with the irrelevancy of powered up dynamax Pokémon when their Gigantamax form comes out. Like for me, when I get a gengar, I’ll still use my other 2 which I have powered up, cause then I have 3 good ghost types, and I’ll just dynamax the gmax one. They are still good, just not as good as the gmax ones
It would be nice if they scaled things down for smaller communities like make it doable for four man teams like the main series games. Or remote so people can actually do it in rural. But meh after the Kanto trio my community attempted with 13 players we lost the battle and spirit and no events for future G max have been posted sense. Rip to this new feature they look cool…. Just can’t get em unless we travel to a bigger city lmao
Unfortunately it's just not a feature I'm gonna be able to participate in. I even downloaded the campfire app, and while there are apparently 240 people that are members of a community near by, coordinating around my work schedule is just not possible. Really wish niantic would focus more energy into more solo play options
they definitely needed to fix the issues with gmax from last weekend. read a story on silph road reddit about one kid getting booted from 4 of the 5 gmax raids the group did, leaving him with a venusaur that ran, with the whole experience reducing him to tears but even with these changes, the guaranteed rare xl candy barely makes it worth the city trip, could literally not care less about gmax otherwise
Why is Metagross optimal? Last time I checked, Metagross is psychic/steel, so he would be weak to Gengar. Or is it neutral damage due to the steel typing?
Create an account just for spoofing. But only use that account to spoof not you main account since Niantic can ban the detected account. Your main account will not be afected in any way but don't use that one by mistake in the spoofing app. Afert teleport in New York, there all raids have full lobby. Once you get it, trade it with your main account, or keep it until you get lucky with your spoofing account and only trade it at this moment.
I hate that this feature is heavily favors only pay to play :( if you want to battle with anything good or participate after you’ve leveled something up, you HAVE TO buy particles.
still an impossible feature for me since I live where there is like five players and no community. So I won't be able to just solo these gmaxes and it sucks not being able to remote in since its basically would be the only way I can do it
25000 stardust …. What for when I already got 30 mill. Increase the monster box 📦 so I can continually catch with the Go Plus . Nah . Yeah aye … this is dumb . Entirely don’t, can’t be bothered. 😖
Hear a comment how can a Pokemon go player play pokemon go when the game keeps crashing again and then his or her e-mail address comes up every time when that person tries to long into the pokemon go game.
I feel like later on this will dwindle to like 4-8, which I feel will fit the smaller communities, solos still will unfortunately have to trade or travel for these. At least there are only like 40 ans we probably still gonna get easier base forms, so even if people will be missing most of the GMAXes, at least they will be getting the easier DMAX counterparts.
Definitely a game difference in needing a small keen group vs needing an entire state to play the game. Thanks for keeping the experience real ż+.
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Campfire rly helped 😀
increased catch rate??!?! dude with the effort strategy and cost to even have CHANCE to defeat these pokemons it should be guaranteed catch bloody hell
1:08 it’s important to say that the people who did it with 9 said that it was an awful experience and took an extremely long time and took a lot of resources. They also said they would never attempt it again with just 9 people
Everyone talks about rural like you have to live in the sticks to have no community. I live in a large suburban sprawl that connects two cities in the UK. It’s not rural but I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve been able to join a legendary raid in person. Occasionally I see a few people on community day but people generally keep themselves to themselves. I use remote raids to catch one of each legendary for the Pokédex. I’m not even thinking about gmax.
Have you checked Campfire? I live in a sprawling suburban area and we had nearly 100 people at our day 2 meetup.
Everyone in the 14th largest city in the US goes to the same park and we were able to do one last week with 17. 14 of them had maxed out mons.
As someone who starting to just pvp , even with the stardust buff I can't see a world I have enough resources to do both. Powering up new mons for Great League, let alone Ultra and Master - I just don't have the time or mental to do both. Unlocking a great league mon can sometimes be 50k stardust for a move and an additional 110k per mon to power up.
Just feels like I'mma have to wait til the majority of the community who does these has maxxed out mons to be carried but that feels bad and still would take years, not even guaranteed to happen either.
I have no rush doing this, sorry I have no intention of getting with a group of 40! Have I lost my mind? I intend to slowly build an amazing team in a year or 2...and try that when I have a team of level 50 Metagross with the legacy move on, there is no reason to try before that point, and there is no rush at all, these Pokémons are completely useless outside this system anyway. this system is designed to grab money and a lot of it, now put all the tickets on top of that, and the regular cost to just do a regular event and this is starting to lose all propotions, it costs more than the Nintendo Switch, and there you can play on so many games. it's a joke.
I'd say if there is a group of 10-20 people near you on a Campfire meetup definitely try to join it if your intention is to get into G-max anyway in 2 years. They become so much easier to beat once you have 1 G-max pokemon, and you can just get that by just showing up and cheering with your wooloo's
With Campfire you easily get 40 ppl 😀
@@Candyy248… if you got time to sit around n wait for everyone to turn up .Increase your hit rate you have to power up max monster 2/3 days before. 20 people have weak monsters you all get penalized,
It sucks basically.
As a community admin I have a controversial take. My community has never been more alive, yes it's super hard but since covid we've never had 30+ people attend a meet up. Its so difficult that multiple community leaders had to pool together resources/trainers to get it done! I think this is exactly what Niantic was aiming for. Yes, solo & duo players will struggle. But this would maybe nudge them into going on Facebook/ campfire & finding small communities to battle with. Even if it's just once a month for Gigantamax.
What we found was that yes, you could do it with fewer people. We did 2 with 14 trainers. But that was after a number of those people had powered up, and everyone had caught G-max Gengars to field. I'm going to guess the fact I caught a hundo and immediately maxed everything on it helped.
Also, the move set was such a lottery. Gengar is a glass cannon, so it's not hard to damage it. But it also hits hard. If it has dark pulse, metagross is wiped. And focus blast isn't much better. And murders greedent. And psychic hits other gengars badly, and so do ghost moves.
The move set changes every time you try the same raid. So it's a lottery when you go in. You have to spend all this time accumulating enough people to do it, only to find it is using moves that specifically hurt the team you chanced on.
Seen a vid of a guy doing a 1 party(4 People) max battle against Gmax gengar(Fully maxed+Lv. 50), and they managed to get it down to about 30-40ish percent health(In the yellows), so it is definitely way easier. They were doing it with Metagrosses and Greedent. I haven't tried doing it against gmax gengar yet, but from my experience with the kanto starters, it seems that a pokemon's survivability is way more important than that a little bit extra damage.(Experienced this when going against Gmax Venusaur when I won it for my community purely because I brought high level metagrosses instead of them bringing their Gigantamax Charizards.) If that truly is the case, Metagross would be more favorable one against Gengar since it would survive way more than Gengar damage dealer wise. And to your point of how much of a lottery the moves Gmax gengar has feels, IDK about this but somebody told me that bringing Greedent, Metagross and Gengar might be an idea needed to be talked about since something like focus blast that would deal neutral to Metagross and supereffective to Greedent wouldn't deal a lot to Gengar, same goes for Poison type moves against Metagross and Ghost type moves against Greedent. But if this is the case, if your only mon that resist those move died during battle, you have no chance of doing anything significant to the Gmax gengar because you'll be dead since no one would tank the hits from it. So as somebody who already defeated Gmax Gengar, what is your opinion on bringing in Dmax Blastoise? Might not resist any move but no moves would deal supereffective to it either, it alsohas high defense and it can learn fast move bite which is a dark type that would deal supereffective damage to the Gengar.
My community took down all 3 Gmax starters with 20-22... probably 5 of those were irrelevent alts or kid accounts. The others were properly powered up. I spent half a mil in stardust last minute to get ready. Having trouble mustering the troups for Gengar which surprises me 😢
Unfortunately I live in my capital city, and there's still not enough players to gather a group large enough to take on one of these. I was very excited for the refreshing change that Dynamax was bringing, but to have it locked behind such a massive social wall really sucks.
Good thing is that they are Tradable, so aside like Special Research that may happen at some point, or some easier variants of this - you totally should treat it like Regionals and hopefully trade them over from other people, whenever you visit some bigger city with friendly players.
It's not ideal, but at least it's some solution. I do feel like some of these will be at some point 4 people doable (Venusaur technically was), but you probably will need to max out some of the base DX Pokémon or use quad effectiveness (Excadrill for Toxtricity will be essential).
Also if Campfire is available in your area - or will be, you should try checking there. There may be some bigger local community you are missing, especially on some other side of the city. And those definitely will come back, so you probably should be able to get stronger with other locals to finish them, when they return.
Especially after they introduce some better counters like Carbink/Coalossal for Charizard.
When I heard the 25k stardust was part of the rewards, I thought that was good. I think also they should increase the number of candy you receive to a greater number, like 50 or 100. Thanks for experiencing and sharing G-MAX Gengar tips for us.
My local group managed to beat a handful of the kanto starter gmax raids with a group as large as 31 and as small as 18.
Tips:
1. Power up your mons to level 30 or higher. This will not significantly boost your damage, but it will let you survive 3+ resisted moves from the gmax boss until your team hits the first Dynamax and can heal and shield.
2. Prioritize resisting the boss. Getting super effective damage is a nice benefit when possible, but dealing neutral damage is wholly acceptable if you get better resistances in return. Good resistances mean that you need to be healed less and your max guard shields go further allowing more damaging max attacks to be used during each Dynamax.
3. Max guard grants more temp hp to an individual mon than max spirit would heal it (max spirit hits every active Pokemon in your group, so it can heal more overall). Max guard also encourages the boss to attack shielded pokemon individually rather than spamming large attacks that hit everyone. Together, the regular use of max guard means that your team takes less damage overall, needs healed less frequently, and can deal damage more often.
4. Level up your max moves. While powering up your Pokémon makes it easier to make it to the first Dynamax without losing a mon, your overall survivability and damage output depends significantly on the level of your max moves. You don't necessarily have to go all the way to level 3, but try for level 2.
5. Sort out who is in groups together and communicate during the raid to make sure moves aren't "wasted" (2+ people using a max spirit when 1 use would've done the job).
Niantic needs to get this into their empty head already: rural players and disabled players need the help of remote players in this type of raids, shadow raids, elite raids, and so on. Like limit how many remote raids you can do in a day to I don't know 1 or 2 but let people join all this type of raids remotely.... Otherwise people will either quit this game, either start spoofing and trade what they get with their main accounts, AND this is what I started to do , and I will not apologize for saying it. I don't have any other way to get them, and I can't force people to start to play or just play with me either. So yeah I get them and trade them to my main account. So yeah at the end of day, Niantic is hurting their bussiness by either having players quit the game because is just not accesible to everyone either by turning most of them into spoofers.
This game is not intended for rural or disabled players... That's why they have the original Nintendo games.. at least that's what a lot of people told me when I complained.
If you live in a rural area, you probably don't have a flag football team nearby, or if you do, you probably have to travel miles to find another team to play against. If you are disabled, you may not have a sports program for people with disabilities at all, or maybe not for the sport you want to play. Pokemon Go is no different. It requires you to go outside and be mobile, and some aspects require group play. You can either travel to another location for group play, just like for sports, or you can pick a game designed for solo play.
Literally a game about walking
As a villager, I just went to the closest city 😀👍
Was the most fun I had on a raid ngl...
@@_Amit_Sunil Lol, I think you meant driving!
The absolute hard part of G-max isnt the difficulty, it's catching the damned things. Imagine my mood after hooking up with the community to take down G-monsters and after spending all dem particles not one but two Blastoises just would not stay in the ball.
I was pretty sour having spent 2.4k particles on my Max turtle, which you have to manage like a ninja to get the 1080 a day. Im a bit put off with regards to their fabulous new feature
Like... imagine explaining this game to a new player...
"Yeah, no, they're not raids. They're kind of like raids, but a LOT tougher. There's forty people doing this together... No, yeah, you're in a team of 4, yes... but like, there's 10 other teams of 4 doing the same raid - er, I mean battle...
Your mon got one-shot? Yeahhh, like I said they're really tough... But now you can dynamax...
Oh, what? You have the wrong move? Oh, yeah, no it's based off the FAST move.... Yeah, no, you CHARGE up the max meter so you can use your max move that's the same type as your FAST move...
Oh, all your guys have fainted? That's okay, you just -- yeah, no, you can't revive them.. just keep tapping your empty screen til that cheer button fills. It'll help your teammates.
Who are your teammates? I dunno, they're SOMEWHERE here amongst the 40 of us blocking the sidewalk on this residential street because this power spot is someone's home office. Just keep tapping your empty screen for the next 5 minutes....
There, now you have a gigantamax Blastoise. It's pretty tanky, so it'll be good for Gengar...
No, it doesn't get max darkness, it only gets max cannon... No, Bite won't turn into a --- yeah, no, I know what I said, but --- bite won't become max darkness on g-max blastoise...
Because.......... G-max is, um...
...
But, yeah, what do you think? Simple, right? Fun, yeah? Think you'll come back??"
Imagine thinking a Lv5 player SHOULD be doing a T6 gigantamax raid. Like just trade it to them. Maybe you should make sure they have A mega pokemon or even just a starter trio.
@@Frosty0-f4e Straw-manning a Lvl 5 player into the argument. Nice easy target you made for yourself there. Really showed me.
I showed a Lvl 34 player the circle-lock technique on a Darkrai yesterday. "New" player can mean a lot of things.
You can trade them your max mons. I'm one and done on these stupid things thanks x
@@Board_Stiff I guess "new" and "strawman" are just words we can use anywhere with no seriousness, imagine that
@@Frosty0-f4e Google is right there if you need it.
@@Frosty0-f4e Google is right there if you need it.
A planned team of 16 people making sure each team had a healer the whole time is how we did gmax raids
The community close to where I live drove an hour out of town to find enough people that had time or cared to do the Gmax battles. So I'm going to have to pass again.
I think it helps that we have 1 target vs 3. The cap of daily mp really only allows to prepare for 1 in a weeks time so even those who had the idea to prepare for the trio weren't able
Campfire came in clutch for me, im now a part of two new groups to do gmax
Tagman in Nz posted a video on his youtube of 4 of them with lv40+ counters & maxed moves doing about 70% damage (getting it well into the yellow). He reckons 2 more would have the made the difference & got it done. So it's looking like 6+ players is doable with the right counters against Gmax Genger with poison attacks.
Difficulty I'm facing now is most the local players here are done with Gmax entirely after not being able to get close to taking one down after all the investment in less than great pokemon that we did last weekend. I can't say I blame them tbh, hoping I can find at least 5 others with powered up counters to give it a go, otherwise Gmax battles aren't happening for me anytime soon :(
We would have been so much better, if they released Drilbur before this... Or a stronger Normal / neutral Steel type, that could resist it well and counter back with SE hits. The issue right now is that Metagross and Gengar are weak to Ghost moves, resist all Poison really well. Regular (!) Blastoise resists nothing, but is the strongest offensive option. And then Greedent is just too weak to carry it, but it is the strongest Normal type with a Max Quake.
Well cant see the nerf here. Why ? Well for my community of 1 player there is still no difference xS
time to spoof…
@@SomeOldHeadOnGasyup
We finished 4 raids with 30-40 peeps.
Just got my 1st one and it's a 93% listening to this video lol
I feel like maybe they need two different levels depending on your area, if your in a big city it should be harder 20 people or so needed but maybe if you live in a rural area you should be able to get a less powerful version you can take down with like 5-10 people as I didn’t even try and get the starters as I knew there wouldn’t be enough people locally
Aye 98%🎉🎉
Gengar dancing at high speed looks way too funny. 😂
Have two Hundo D Gengars so I powered them to Lvl 40 and 2-1-1 Max Powers. Already have a Hundo Dubwool at 2-2-2 as a healer shielder. Gengar is my favorite creature so I want to take a swing. We'll see where I can find a group. But I have a wedding to attend so timing may be an issue. Thanks for rhe tips
Lots of players leave the Battle once all their Pokemon have fainted. They should stay and Cheer! It still does damage and may be the difference between failing the battle and winning the battle for the whole group!
Looking forward to more D Max battles, leaving G Max alone. So not worth it. I will be asking for G Max Pokemon in Lucky trades to hopefully get them that way just for collection. Hope Niantic further nerfs them to be more accessible. Thanks for the info Zoe. :)
First of all, Happy Diwali to those who is celebrate it. Today is the Diwali Festival.🕯
Oh no, Niantic is not organized Light Festival this year Pokemon Go game event.
I shall challenge Niantic to do double in game event for Pokemon Go for example, Halloween & Light Festival event at once.
This is never to be happen in Pokemon Go until shut down!
Even as a rural player I really enjoy the mechanics of d/g maxing and spent the weeks leading up harvesting max 1,080 daily and powering up my moves. The galling part was the absolute leap in difficulty forcing me to drive hours to get a big enough group. If it was that a group of 4 lvl 50 max counters playing optimally could do it then I'd be 💯 on board but taking a minimum of 10 is my entire local community and then some all needing to invest far more than the casuals in our group are interested in.... One of my main raid buddies bounced off the difficulty so bad they just trashed the DMAX they didn't want to keep IVs for and stopped playing max battles altogether.
Yes correct, agree with your rant . Spot on. Already our group is got some splits happening. Just poor release , runaways were super annoying.
Gengar has weaker defences so wouldn’t it have been easier regardless? Probably not the best one to gauge it on but I could be wrong
Fair point. Tis a glass canon usually in all aspects, we might only be able to judge for real on the next one.
Correct. I definitely expected it to be way easier even before the announced nerf.
On the other hand it doesn't have any good resisting Pokémon for the Ghosts moves. Greedent is literally the strongest available Pokémon we have right now.
Metagross/Gengar being the best ones weak to Ghost and regular Blastoise being the strongest neutrally hit attacker.
Compare it to Venusaur that was fully countered by Metagross and partially by Charizard and you have major difference there.
GX mons shouldn't have been released for at least next 6 months, really (well at least some of us can just forget about them after this).
There should have been like Carbink or Larvitar release before Charizard. And we totally would have been way better with like Snorlax and Sandile (or even just Drilbur) released before the Gengar.
it also hits harder, which is a problem when you can only use 3 pokemon, unlike in raids when you can just revive infinitely
my group is of 15ish. so hoping today after work we will get one or 2 done! glad niantic listened, may still be crazy to do but listening is listening
thanks for the video zoë. i'll still wait a little bit longer. i'm in no rush and things always return in this game.
At the end of the day they’ve improved it but not enough. There is no reason to lock them from being remoteable, I will argue this point daily (or until I get bored lol)
Wouldn't be suprised, if these become Special Research rewards at some point, not to mention they all are tradeable, so in my book smaller communities people, should just consider them as regionals they have to trade for like once per year.
Maybe I’m just an optimist, but I love the strategy aspect of the battles. I also love the fact that it forces the community to interact with one another more to attempt to bring down the boss.
An online mechanic to these is the only real way to save this. Make it each max spot have an online matchmaking for others at max spots to make it more reasonable. Gen 8 was so fun for me with sword and shield it’s a shame to see them ruin it in PoGo
Glad niantic heard us but only being able to do 2 free gmax battles in a day really limits our options
GMAX Gengar is my second favourite GMAX so far. first place goes to charizard. I'm looking forward to get my first GMAX pokemon :)
Toxtricity > Gengar > derpy Kanto Starters, when it comes to all GMAX we had and will get soon.
g-max blastoise doesnt get a dark max attack, dont use g-max blastoise, only d-max!
the difference with g-max gengar having poison moves to for example ghost moves is MASSIVE, its much easier when it has poison and significantly harder if it has ghost moves since our gengars and metagrosses will drop like flies. I bet that was the main difference between your battle 1 and 2
Unironically, if we had more time - getting those lvl 40/50 Greedents would have been the way to go for the Ghost moves. I genuinely don't understand why at least Drilbur wasn't released a little bit earlier. Larvitar instead of Falinks would also have helped a lot with both Charizard and Gengar. Not to mention some hard counters like Sandile or Diggersby, they had opportunity to introduce, but oh well.
Looking like youre 50 while dressing like a ittle girl is mad wild
A group of 40 isn't failing if they have evolved mons with STAB moves, no Dyna move levels needed.
Our 40 squads had a lot of kids and more casual players with less optimized setups and we were successfull.
A failing 40 squad has just too many people with no investment into it.
Dark attack bite only works on dynamax Blastoise not gigantamax Blastoise. It uses the water type gmax attack, it might be a bug but I saw gameplay and they confirmed it.
Much easier when I just outright healed when necessary.
Im glad they're keeping it hard but not impossible tbh. Its not supposed to be soloable or anything.
We did a Charizard with 17 last weekend. And my girl and I were dead weight.
finished 2 with 8 people. what matters is your attack level and the gengar moves.
Well done
Some of the Kanto GX were disproportionately easier/harder than the others. Namely Charizard had all the blasting moves and even Dragon Claw usually hit with good neutral damage - taking even the fire resistant Pokémon with ease.
But most importantly - we did not have any Max Rockfall users. Have they released DX Larvitar or Stonjourner or Carbink (especially good for all moves) or even some silly Sudowoodo - instead of the damn Falinks, people would have had a better experience. We had no Pokémon that resisted Charizard properly beyond Blastoise and frail Inteleon, which at the time didnt feel proper to train even.
I have actually heard of groups of 4 being able to finish Venusaur, as Metagross fully counters it and Charizard mostly counters it. And those were the strongest Pokémon everyone had at the time, due to training them for Beldum and Falinks raids.
Blastoise was also partly countered by those Metagrosses (Ice Beam on Blastoise), but for that you had to have teams of like 10-15 to properly heal up.
Most important they are crazy for releasing first 3 GX during the same event, on only 2 days, with no Particle limits taken off, it was the biggest cashgrab since the beginning of the game! This should have been done in order, starting with Venusaur and finishing with Charizard and in a span of months, with a Stardust event in between.
And the Particle event just should be twice as big for the whole game. Or at the very least for the rest of the Maz Out season (still 2400 or 3200 would have been way better limits to have).
Not enough nerfing for the population of 7 pokemon players in my area
I enjoyed doing these raids but I had to travel 45 m to get to a bigger community . We have a community here but we can’t make a dent in these raids.
I managed to do my first gmax raid (gengar) today in NZ. Had to travel into the cbd though and probably had 38 people. Raid went super fast. I can't really see myself using this feature often as I don't have a large enough community nearby unless I travel into the CBD as raids will still probably require a fair amount of people.
Does star piece work to boost the 25k reward? I remember lucky egg not working on some of the xp rewards for tier1 dynamax raids so just wanted to double check before using a star piece for these giga raids
Yeah, i won’t be attempting these until there is the inevitable special research that teaches you how to do this. Even then, i’m just not interested in GMax enough to really spend the resources and try. I think having a strategy element to raiding is a great idea, horrible implementation.
The last time I saw a video of yours it was you capturing a 98% IV gigantamax charizard with very little joy as if you had hatched a 100 egg machop, I thought you were more clever
1:50 Btw. there is literally no point of picking and upgrading GMAX forms. Their moves aren't seemingly any better and lack the effects (they all should at least lower Attack or Defence or something - have like the Shadow/Party buff). Regular forms are also more versatile, as you can pick out of all the Fast Moves bases DMAX moves.
2:50 There shouldn't be any catch-rate mechanics for it. Dynamax Raids and Tera Raids - usually had 100% rates and this is scammy for them to give them such low rates. Especially as you are directly wasting Particles for it.
3:15 My bet is that they did nothing, but Gengars are naturally weaker. Still they should be cursed for not introducing any valid counters. It's ridiculous that Greedent is literally the strongest proper counter for the Ghost side.😮
Honestly I think everyone is overreacting with the irrelevancy of powered up dynamax Pokémon when their Gigantamax form comes out. Like for me, when I get a gengar, I’ll still use my other 2 which I have powered up, cause then I have 3 good ghost types, and I’ll just dynamax the gmax one. They are still good, just not as good as the gmax ones
Just got a shiny Gigantamax Gengar in my first try. Still useless
How many people for your lobby
It would be nice if they scaled things down for smaller communities like make it doable for four man teams like the main series games. Or remote so people can actually do it in rural. But meh after the Kanto trio my community attempted with 13 players we lost the battle and spirit and no events for future G max have been posted sense. Rip to this new feature they look cool…. Just can’t get em unless we travel to a bigger city lmao
Thank goodness
Good work 🫡
For folks who don’t think there’s anyone to play with, start checking campfire!
as a rural player im salty a halloween event i cant do and I feel left out I dont think we got 20 players around i host raids all the time too
I enjoyed doing these raids but I had to travel 45 m to get to a bigger community
Unfortunately it's just not a feature I'm gonna be able to participate in. I even downloaded the campfire app, and while there are apparently 240 people that are members of a community near by, coordinating around my work schedule is just not possible. Really wish niantic would focus more energy into more solo play options
If you could use these Megas in other ways, PVP and Raid battles, then maybe. But right now nope.
they definitely needed to fix the issues with gmax from last weekend. read a story on silph road reddit about one kid getting booted from 4 of the 5 gmax raids the group did, leaving him with a venusaur that ran, with the whole experience reducing him to tears
but even with these changes, the guaranteed rare xl candy barely makes it worth the city trip, could literally not care less about gmax otherwise
Why is Metagross optimal? Last time I checked, Metagross is psychic/steel, so he would be weak to Gengar. Or is it neutral damage due to the steel typing?
They should've kept all of these raids to a maximum of 4, embrace smaller groups
No player group around me, so won’t be getting any.
they are tradable, so there is that option for you in the future
Create an account just for spoofing. But only use that account to spoof not you main account since Niantic can ban the detected account. Your main account will not be afected in any way but don't use that one by mistake in the spoofing app. Afert teleport in New York, there all raids have full lobby. Once you get it, trade it with your main account, or keep it until you get lucky with your spoofing account and only trade it at this moment.
Yes they literally said this.
The paying for the particles if you want to do more than one? Nope. Did you mention that people that get knocked out should stay in and cheer?
This new gigantimax is usless for me. Can't even do a tier 3 shadow raid this is impossible
Who’s gonna power up a dumb I.V monster ???
I hate that this feature is heavily favors only pay to play :( if you want to battle with anything good or participate after you’ve leveled something up, you HAVE TO buy particles.
I got a Hundo Inteleon Dynamax.... Presumably this is completely useless?
The MP limit should go 😂 it's a hassle to power up those dynamax pokemon you get me?
with the level of my community is really impossible
I just don't want to invest in the Dynamax mons with basic 3 star stats. Haha
can not be bothered. the amount of effort for a gengar just doesn't make sense
I don't have a community to do the battles with. 😢
Probably easy with sufficient people
still an impossible feature for me since I live where there is like five players and no community. So I won't be able to just solo these gmaxes and it sucks not being able to remote in since its basically would be the only way I can do it
Hope no one fails for this but or do and fail hopefully this max stuff fails more miserably 😂
25000 stardust …. What for when I already got 30 mill.
Increase the monster box 📦 so I can continually catch with the Go Plus .
Nah . Yeah aye … this is dumb .
Entirely don’t, can’t be bothered. 😖
Yeahp .. R.S …😡
30 trainers, Osaka…. Fail .
My locals don’t do g max or d max
Oh no. You actually need a raid team for a raid??? That’s madness
Hear a comment how can a Pokemon go player play pokemon go when the game keeps crashing again and then his or her e-mail address comes up every time when that person tries to long into the pokemon go game.
someone is gonna solo him, gengar is pretty ez
Burnt 🥵 n done , just not going there
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10-15 players is reasonable
I feel like later on this will dwindle to like 4-8, which I feel will fit the smaller communities, solos still will unfortunately have to trade or travel for these. At least there are only like 40 ans we probably still gonna get easier base forms, so even if people will be missing most of the GMAXes, at least they will be getting the easier DMAX counterparts.