No she wasn't. His brother took care of him financially for years and supported him. That's a historical fact depicted in the letters Van Gogh wrote and still exist to this day. This documentary is a disgusting lie based on 0 evidence. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
No she wasn't. His brother took care of him financially for years and supported him. That's a historical fact depicted in the letters Van Gogh wrote and still exist to this day. This documentary is a disgusting lie based on 0 evidence. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
Excellent documentary. Never knew the story about Joanna Bonger. All of us who love Vincent's work definitely owe much gratitude for her devotion to his art.
No she wasn't. His brother took care of him financially for years and supported him. That's a historical fact depicted in the letters Van Gogh wrote and still exist to this day. This documentary is a disgusting lie based on 0 evidence. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
No she wasn't. His brother took care of him financially for years and supported him. That's a historical fact depicted in the letters Van Gogh wrote and still exist to this day. This documentary is a disgusting lie based on 0 evidence. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
This video is making me cry...I'm 76, a mother of three and grand/great mother of 15. I feel like I feel Vincent's heart. I bought, Letter's To Theo...and I too am an artist, and have started painting sun flowers because of Vincent. My brother died October 21, 21 and he was a singer, and had a heart like Vincent in different ways....I Loved him so very much...I hope they are hugging each other and it gives Robin and friend their... I know God is but I'm still grieving as he was my Irish Twin...I miss him terribly...I LOVE Vincent and I LOVE my brother, Robin...God bless, Johanna, and Theo...Sorry for writing so long, I can't talk to people about this, they think I'm eccentric, which I am toward the world...
Ya, a lot of people feel the same way do Melanie. Seems like Vincent got a raw deal all the way around, but THAT'S what makes his story so compelling. Poor guy just wanted to love and be loved and do his art work like a lot of us little humans beings, but he just couldn't get a moments peace in those regards. Thank goodness Theo's wife had the vision and ambition to preserve his work for the ages because if she had taken them to the Paris dump no one would even know who he was. And THAT would have been the real tragedy
ya, there should be a portrait/photo of Johanna where ever there's an exhibition of Vincent's work that explains her roll in the preservation of his work
Absolutely beautiful story ❤️❤️❤️ Yet another person who loved and supported Vincent, believed in him enough to fight for him. Vincent had a difficult life but he was loved.
🧑🏽🎨 I'm filled with emotions by this Documentary, the brotherly love, the way this woman defended the art, and so much information i had no idea of. You did it again "PERSPECTIVE" 👏 This Documentary is a Masterpiece. THANK YOU....edit...i was having second thoughts of going to the "Immersive Van Gogh Exhibit" here in Phoenix, but after watching this...I'm definitely going tomorrow, and submerge myself into a momentarily Van Gogh Madness. THANK YOU again
Love Van Gogh’s work … as an aspiring or beginner painter I love painting flowers like Van Gogh’s. Van Gogh’s works are amazing … thank you for the documentary.
This shows that any artist needs people behind him or her to believe in them, to promote their art. I honestly wish I had a Joanna behind me. I share much in spirit with Vincent. I don't copy his work, or even study his style, there was only one Vincent. It is important that I have my own style.
I have studied and loved Vincent for more than fifty years and this documentary gave me much that I didn't already know. I believe I shall continue to learn about him for the rest of my life. Thank you so much.
Yes, she translated all his letters and had them published. I have read all the three volumes, page by page and line by line. Had it not been for her, not many would have known about him. It is called promotion. Regardless of an artist's abilities, without it, fame cannot be achieved. Sometimes, it can be self promotion. Greatest artists such as Courbet and Manet held their own independent shows by the official buildings! Picasso was a master of self promotion. The fact remains that many who are not good at it, yet are great artists, fall by the way side.
@@expromanticart6491 why are you so fascinated by Vincent? he's certainly not a better draftsman than Degas. He didn't have the effect of art as Cezanne did. And he only really produced his finest work in the last few years of his life etc; so what's up?
@@spactick it is what his works make us feel - at least many of us who had the pleasure to enjoy many of his original works. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
I love quality people, smart people who feel with there heart at the highest level. I'm and artist and I appreciate her intelligence and love for her Husband and her brother in-law. She did it for love❤
For whats its worth, 1901 Johanna Gezina Bonger van Gogh married Johan Henri Gustaff (Gustave) Cohen Gosschalk 1912 Johan Gosschalk dies Would appear they were married for about 11 years, compared to Johanna being married to Theo. van Gogh for 21 months. So, the question is since Theodorus van Gogh died of syphilis and they were married with child, Vincent Wilem, did Johanna get syphilis? The portrait of Johanna above in the title shot was done by Johan Gosschalk. He helped in promoting Vincent van Gogh.
I'm an artist and before I herd and seen Vincent Van Gogh I was influence by him my art in some ways are similar to his I draw nature like him I'm getting better and I drew Sun flowers and nature even before I know about Vincent Van Gough. I suffer from depression but this is way I started doing art. When I learn about what kind of person he was I was more impressed with him. It's too bad he suffered so much he was ahead of his time. I don't believe he killed himself but how ever he died it bought him peace. I believe his mental health would probably have gotten worse they didn't have medicine or technology to help him. I saw one of the movies about him and the person who played him said maybe his art was not for his day but it's for future generations it came true that really struck me. Now I can't get enough of him he brings be peace.
Yes, I don't believe he killed himself either. Some young boys from the village did it, and Vincent didn't want them to go to prison; it is the last theory from researchers. Vincent was shot in the village; he couldn't have walked all the way from where he was painting to his house after shooting himself. Vincent Van Gough was an INFP personality type, an Introverted Feeling type; he was very sensitive and felt everything very deeply. He was very different to others and people didn't understand him. He didn't take good care of himself; he didn't eat properly and drank too much. He spent the little money that he had (from his brother) in painting materials instead of food. Vincent Van Gough had a beautiful soul. He was quite smart and well read. You can read the letters that he wrote to his brother in the book "Lettres `a son frere Theo" (Cartas a Theo).
Theresa, you write " It's too bad he suffered so much he was ahead of his time." I know you understand this, as did Don Mclean when he wrote, "Now, I think I know what you tried to say to me How you suffered for your sanity How you tried to set them free They would not listen, they're not listening still Perhaps they never will" As do I when I say that the people who love his work are the very people that cannot afford his work, outside of museums/galleries' the rest are simply making investments (perhaps if I'm cynical even the museums/galleries) and to me that is very sad.
Yes, the shooting was accidental. Two young boys who followed him around sometimes had gotten hold of the revolver from their home. One child had received a "wild west" costume had brought the gun from home to "complete" the outfit and playing with the gun near Vincent working, accidentally shot him. Vincent didn't tell anyone about the injury because he didn't want the boys to be in trouble. He just went back to his room to lie down and bled to death. The boys' family moved out of the village that very day. It was a deathbed confession of the older boy (not the shooter) that revealed it. It all adds up. People from the village saw him walking back to his room and that he looked pale and slow and unwell, with blood on his shirt. Vincent refused help from everyone who saw him on his way back to his room. It all adds up.
On Saturday, September 17,2022,my friend Douglas and I spent three hour hours at the Minneapolis Institute of Art, in Minneapolis. It was the last day of a special Van Tough exhibition. We did not see this room, because when I was a Junior High School student, perhaps in 8th grade, my parents took me to a Van Tough exit at The Seattle Art Museum. It was fanstastic! But I thought I could paint and draw as good asVincent. Now at 75, I realize what a foolish thing and assumption. I was an Art student at the Art School, at The UK of Washington in Seattle. In one Art History class, I wrote a paper comparing Vincent's PIEta, and his Artist friend, Paul Taught 's the Yellow Christ. I know the power of Art. Vincent's importance.
Suddenly saw...wonderful woman Johanna let whole world know....thank you all let it always live and show Love every colour in Vincent's painting....can't say....so much more show..,♥️💛🖌️🎨🌈
This documentary was beautifully done. I finally got to watch the history of Van Gogh’ brothers and know about Joanna. Very much entertained ~ Kudos to people behind putting this together.
It is unbelievable what she did. The works of Vincent were somewhere in a dark corner at Theo's gallery. Costumers won't even look at them. She could have put them in a trash can and forget, remary and totaly ignore all that. For how next to impossible it might have seemed at that time. And she is not even a blood relative. It was heroic what she did. Increadible story. Heartbreaking, yet beautiful. This woman deserves a place in art history! So exeptional! Thank you for the film.
The story of Vincent, Theo and Joanna is so amazing and somewhat unbelievable…how each was so critical in altering the art world to what it currently is today. Vincent is the Christ…Theo is the Paul…and Joanna is the Mary in this biblical parallel of the art world.
"Praise the Lord Brother, Praise the Lord", "I'm on my way to our neighborhood church after I've snorted some of my powdered turpentine," HALLELUJAH" "HALLELUJAH" ''VINCENT RULES"
maybe Vincent was too intense to become a minister but he had a love for the gospel inherited from his minister father and he had a soft spot for the hurts of the world. The twelve sunflowers are representation of the apostles. His worship of god through his work as a painter.
@@pdxeddie1111 your making wayyyyyyy too much into Mr. Van Gogh's sunflower paintings. Vinny (as I like to call him) probably just liked painting sunflowers because they were easy to paint after an all nighter at the local brothel. As we all know, Vinny was a party animal. A beast
@@tomobedlam297 This is not even a crime documentary, your comment is irrelevant also women and girls are most likely to be killed by their partner or ex bruh
@@petermasterson8276 I guess that depends on what everyone understands for "feminism". I am not a feminist, but I believe in equality of opportunities. However, I don't believe in equality of outcome, hardworking people and geniuses shouldn't be level down.
✒️One of the better parts of being a woman is as Jane Austin put it, “All the privilege I claimclaim for my own sex is that of loving longest when all hope is gone.” Joanns dedication was astounding and to this day we know the names of these people by her hard work and belief of the love her husband had for his brother. I wonder what became of her son?🖋
Her son was Vincent Willem van Gogh. After the death of his mother in 1925 he did the same as his mother did. Thanks to him there was a Van Gogh Museum in 1973. His eldest son Theodoor van Gogh was killed by the nazis. A grandson Theo van Gogh was murdered by a mislim.
@@sonyalindee8676 He will. In extra full Vincent colours. Thanks to Jo and her son Vincent Willem, who was named after his uncle, the world came to know what a genius Vincent was. At the beginning no artgallery wanted to show his paintings. Not even his own uncle artdealer Vincent ""uncle Cent"". Did you know another uncle Johannes van Gogh ""uncle Jan"" was a famous viceadmiral who fought on battleships and got medals? When Vincent was still a kid this uncle gave the Van Gogh-children a shipdog named Fedor who had travelled the whole world on Dutch ships. Because of this uncle Jan Vincent's youngest brother Cor went to the Dutch Capecolony, fought the invading Brits and was killed by them. At least 5 Van Goghs died by murder by the hands of schoolboys, English, Japanese, Nazis and mislims. Another familymember Michiel van Gogh was famous during Holland's Golden Age as an artdealer and ambassador to England whereby the Dutch States General gave Charles II the socalled ""Dutch Gift"" ........ with paintings. Vincent's father and grandfather were priests. It would be a great idea to produce a movie called Van Gogh about the whole family with special attention for Vincent ofcourse.....
Auction houses know nothing about art. They only smell the money! They don't know Van from Von! They are basically salesmen or saleswomen. Their haughty characteristics make us think they are educated in art, but that is just hot air! Instead of all this nostalgic attention bestowed on Van Gogh as great as he was, it would do the art community a lot of good to care for and to discover the geniuses who are hard to detect among the millions of artists. God knows how many fall by the way side. At the time of Van Gogh, only a few people knew of him, and very few appreciated his capabilities. These are the facts. He was a great colorist and an admirer of the greatest artist of the last two hundred years, Delacroix! He was also a colorist! Being a colorist does not mean just using colors! After all, we all use colors when we paint. It means that an artist gives colors the highest value and importance. The ability to paint a harmonious colorful pictures comes with a lot of experience. We have all seen the many colors some artists splash on surfaces, yet the results are usually gory! No harmony is achieved, and harsh juxtaposition is only attained. A part of this ability is innate, but developing it takes time and practice. My best works in that manner were painted instinctively. Yet after many years, they have got better and better. Because the art world is so crowded, it is difficult to discover the exceptional artists who make their own realism or create their own unique styles. A high carat rough diamond is very rare, but there is an abundance of smaller stones.
Artists need a patron, a promoter. In our contempory time we have our idols. The promoter of Brian Eno and Bob Dylan' turn out to be their mother in law. Thank you mother in laws.
Excellent documentary revealing the crucial point in time that without Bonger Vincent might be unknown and the world a much poorer place. It also shows how tangential art pieces can be with fire and wars.
I didn't know about her and her work until visiting the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam. Glad for this documentary as I'm fascinated with this element of his story.
I went to the Van Gogh museum when I went home to England a stonemason asked me if I went to the red light district I said no but I went to the museum he said you went to Amsterdam and did not go to the red light district, I said you went to Amsterdam and did not go to the Van Gogh museum.
So, in this story the mason gets laid but not hosed? ... hosed for not going to the museum but getting laid while you got hosed going to the museum but not getting laid? The van Gogh brothers did both. Which leads to the question, if Theo van Gogh died from the effects of syphilis did his wife Johanna also have it?
I like the sunflowers, but that's it; I like them. What really moves me are the landscapes, especially the landscapes that include "working people" laboring. I am a musician. Also some of the character studies of working people, or "ordinary" people. Perhaps you might think it is cliche thing to say about a portrait, but Vincent paintings do not just capture and display someone's image, his paintings seem to show their soul. Whatever that means. I like and enjoy paintings, but they generally don't move me emotionally the way music does - except for some of Vincent's paintings. Theo's wife made Vincent famous. Who knows how many other great creations have actually been simply thrown away, as Vincen'ts might have been, because someone like Theo's wife was not around to popularize them. I tend to think most works of genius do get simply thrown away.. Vincent's creations were a peculiar exception. I've read some of Vincent's letters to Theo, and I felt that Vincent was quite nuts, and could easily be a pain in the pupic to be around.Quite cuckoo. I think his paintings were an exception from his nuttiness. I look at Vincent's brush strokes and I can't decide if I am looking at an image, or mere brush strokes. The strokes, by themselves, are like music. My father was an artist, and I am feeling guilty because I discarded one of his paintings. I knew it was good but I had no money and no place to keep it. So I just threw it away.
some of this is incorrect and speculation...she didnt inherit the work, her infant did, so her motivations were different. but what she did was great. the reason so many artists remain unknown is that no one in their lives kept track of the work and letters
Its because she, mainly through his brother who cherished him deeply, knew the extent of Vincent's pain. And it was this pain that was baked into his artwork. Do you hide, bury, and destroy that pain? Or do you release the beauty within it for the world to enjoy.
Thank you. I have always wanted more information on how Jo did it! What a story! But, I do think that quite a lot is missing here such as what happened directly before getting an exhibition in Amsterdam so that the rich came to view Vincent van Gogh's work. There is a long bridge between no one knowing the value of works and the rich planning to buy those works. That part is not discussed here. What did Joanna van Gogh do to promote the works between say, 1892 and 1913? I am keen on getting to the facts as I have learnt the hard way that many people know that to leave the facts out can be part of deliberately telling me how to think. I simply like to acquire all the chronological details. I do not insult or criticise. I crave information!
@elizabethdarley8646 If I remember well Johanna started to make appointment with art dealers, since Theo was one and their uncle Vincent (uncle Cent) . So the name v Gogh was known in the art world. That,s how she got the first attention and exhibitions. Going from art gallery to art gallery.When Johanna still had all the paintings at the house they were all over the place, even in little Vincent"s room above his bed ( The almond blossom that was made for him) 1962 the paintings that were left in the house were sold by the v Gogh family for 15 mil . to the state of the Netherlands under the condition they would build a v Gogh museum. That museum opened with those paintings and all the letters and all of other belongings from Vincent in 1972 .
I remember the first time I saw Irises at the Getty , I was blown away by the vibrancy of the colors. When I went back several years later, it didn't seem the same. When I looked closer, I saw that a piece of glass had been placed over the canvas for security reasons, It muted the beautiful colors, such a shame that others would never be able yo see his eork the way I once did.
Jo Van Gogh-Bonger was a real artlover and made her brother-in-law Vincent well known all over the world...... like her late husband Theo would have done for his elder brother......... and her son Vincent Willem did for his uncle after her death...... in 1925. Without Jo and especially Vincent Willem there would not be a Van Gogh Museum in 1973.
Very interesting, valuable documentary. Congratulations and thanks to all involved. I would like to hear some more words from the early buyers as well as from Johanna Bonger, if they exist, expressing what they saw in the paintings. Can anyone tell me if any letters or diaries have been published? It's slightly frustrating to have everything mediated through the words today's experts. Good to see so many of the paintings including lost ones. Directors seem to struggle with presenting paintings on film. Best for me is a "full frontal " still view including frame held for a few moments, followed by a slowly scrolling scan over the whole painting mid distance and then some close ups of brush strokes and finally a zoom out to a final 'still' shot. James Kalm is a master at this. Paintings are "stills" and don't need to be seen with a constantly roving eye.
Not true, Van Gogh was known and recognized amongst his peers. He was on the brink of great fame when he died. See the Great Expectations channel segment regarding Van Gogh.
I have a fantasy where I go back in time, meet Van Gogh and get him to paint 2 pictures for me ( one to keep and the other to sell). After spending time with him he would hopefully write about the encounter in his diary and hence give provenance when the painting comes to auction. Picasso would be my next destination in his blue period. What about everyone else? Which artist would you go back in time to meet and ask to paint for you?
Almost “Surreal” like so real it looks unreal haha, his brush stroke technique is unbeatable he used those as a way to ad tremendous amounts of detail to his paintings which I love, Another thing I have come to notice is he is one of the FEW painters/artists who can actually do a pretty accurate self portrait without a picture to base off of.
Mila Giganti: yes it is true that Vince had a gift for expressing his emotions thru pushing oil over the surface of a stretched canvas, but it is also the innocent subject matters (shoes, his room, close-up portraits etc;) that grab you and the tragic story of his life. Poor guy just couldn't get a break. I'm sure if Vince was alive today he'd have 3 or 4 hot girlfriends, driven a Porsche 911 and vacationing on his yacht off the coast of Monte Carlo. Vince would be THE MAN that anybody who was anybody would wanna be seen with. The stud of the art world
The part I really hate the most is that she needs to be included in the recognition of Vincent's discovery. I think she was an exceptionally minded person who understood the direction of where art was going, Art is at the moment and breaking the present pointing towards the future. Art is. Human existence is nothing. Results show potential. Her investment in Vincent was how she understood his artistic value. History should be informed about who this person was. JOANNA BONGER!!!!!!!!! She should be recognised as the person who recognised her brother in law Vincent.
Isn't it wonderful that she was so determined to do this thing, led by her personal "lights", against, perhaps, "common sense", and do an extraordinary job of it. Amazing lady.
I dont know why Van Gogh's brother didn't get him some publicity for his paintings.Vincent Van Gogh's brother was a painting dealer who represented the most famous painters of the time the Impressionists.
why? what was he suppose to do? he was supporting him and giving him his moral support, what else was he suppose to do? he had his own family and business interests to take care of. If Vincent had been a little more patient and not taken his life I'm sure things would have eventually gotten better
Very interesting documentary! 👍🏻 9:47👈🏻 My only complaint is that I would have liked to see the one and only existing photo of Vincent Van Gogh in addition to the two pictures of his brother, Theo Van Gogh, taken at the ages of 15 and 22. Oh, and one more thing; His name is Vincent Willem Van Gogh. - Not *“Fan Cough”!*
Van Gogh is the Rodney Dangerfield of the art world. Poor guy just couldn't get a break. Just seemed that everything he did (except his art) turned into a disaster a la mode. The chicks didn't like him. Kids made fun of him. Couldn't hold down a regular job. Sold one painting during his lifetime for approx $78.00 that today is probably worth more than $100,000,000. I know life isn't fair, but poor Vincent got the short end of the stick.
I have doubts as to whether Vincent actually shot himself. I might as well have been the children that circled around him always to taunt him! In order to spare the children all prosecution Vincent took it upon himself.
Joanna changed the world of art and Van Gogh's spirit will live forever through his art and letters. Thanks for the video.
What a woman. She did the world a favour .
Yea she was. Unlike his own mother who basically tossed the many paintings she had received from Vincent in the trash!
@@ConcernedCitizen-fx7duHis mother didn't even attend his funeral!!
Obviously a woman with a deeper level of seeing the greatness and beauty in the world ..she was a person I would like to have met...
No she wasn't. His brother took care of him financially for years and supported him. That's a historical fact depicted in the letters Van Gogh wrote and still exist to this day.
This documentary is a disgusting lie based on 0 evidence. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
When Jesus spoke to the man next to him he spoke of paradise. We will see our loved ones again. In the land of second chances. 🕊
Wonderfully moving. Pleased to see her story finally told.
She was the one responsible for putting Vincent on the map.!
Wonderful moving indeed..thanks so so much for one of the most poignant stories in world the history of art! Well done!
Proving once again that only family friends or big FANS can keep your memory alive!
No she wasn't. His brother took care of him financially for years and supported him. That's a historical fact depicted in the letters Van Gogh wrote and still exist to this day.
This documentary is a disgusting lie based on 0 evidence. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
It's moving? MOVInG PaINTING!!!!
Excellent documentary. Never knew the story about Joanna Bonger. All of us who love Vincent's work definitely owe much gratitude for her devotion to his art.
No she wasn't. His brother took care of him financially for years and supported him. That's a historical fact depicted in the letters Van Gogh wrote and still exist to this day.
This documentary is a disgusting lie based on 0 evidence. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
Isabella garden too.
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I hold Van Gogh and Rembrandt as the two greatest oilpainters. True mastery.
God bless Joanna. The world owes her a tremendous debt of gratitude. ♥
Absolutely lovely documentary. How sensitive, courageous and smart was Joanna Bonger! Brilliant,
No she wasn't. His brother took care of him financially for years and supported him. That's a historical fact depicted in the letters Van Gogh wrote and still exist to this day.
This documentary is a disgusting lie based on 0 evidence. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
what a great and important person Joanna Bonger was. Her gift to the world is immeasurable.
This video is making me cry...I'm 76, a mother of three and grand/great mother of 15. I feel like I feel Vincent's heart. I bought, Letter's To Theo...and I too am an artist, and have started painting sun flowers because of Vincent. My brother died October 21, 21 and he was a singer, and had a heart like Vincent in different ways....I Loved him so very much...I hope they are hugging each other and it gives Robin and friend their... I know God is but I'm still grieving as he was my Irish Twin...I miss him terribly...I LOVE Vincent and I LOVE my brother, Robin...God bless, Johanna, and Theo...Sorry for writing so long, I can't talk to people about this, they think I'm eccentric, which I am toward the world...
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You have a beautiful heart, Melanie. I'm sure your art is reflective of it. Much love.
Ya, a lot of people feel the same way do Melanie. Seems like Vincent got a raw deal all the way around, but THAT'S what makes his
story so compelling. Poor guy just wanted to love and be loved and do his art work like a lot of us little humans beings, but he just
couldn't get a moments peace in those regards. Thank goodness Theo's wife had the vision and ambition to preserve his work for
the ages because if she had taken them to the Paris dump no one would even know who he was. And THAT would have been the
real tragedy
@@alkathakur-hazarika7604 Thank you, Thakur-Hazarika
ya, there should be a portrait/photo of Johanna where ever there's an exhibition of Vincent's work that explains her roll in the
preservation of his work
Thank u for such a wonderful documentary for our present and future generations to be inspired by VINCENT
This is the true fascinating story of Vincent van Gogh. He would’ve been nothing if not for this woman. Just another artist.
Absolutely beautiful story ❤️❤️❤️ Yet another person who loved and supported Vincent, believed in him enough to fight for him. Vincent had a difficult life but he was loved.
Difficult? You mean utterly shite? So did Theo.
He made the ordinary extraordinary.
That they use the word “love” so dearly soothes me. I’m so happy they expressed themselves as though every moment were important and meaningful.
Brilliant. Not only saved Theo and Vincent she reclaimed herstory. We have done so much. Bless Joanna.
Thank you ...😢❤
Theo is the brother we all wish we had. ❤
I get goosebumps watching this! 💎 She's a rarity and ahead of her time
🧑🏽🎨 I'm filled with emotions by this Documentary, the brotherly love, the way this woman defended the art, and so much information i had no idea of. You did it again "PERSPECTIVE" 👏 This Documentary is a Masterpiece. THANK YOU....edit...i was having second thoughts of going to the "Immersive Van Gogh Exhibit" here in Phoenix, but after watching this...I'm definitely going tomorrow, and submerge myself into a momentarily Van Gogh Madness. THANK YOU again
I'm also in Arizona and I'm thinking of going 😊
It's about time we have a documentary about her. Thank you.
And thank you, Joanna.
What two eyes may see...what love can feel....what a Gift He came to be in such a short time....we all are just this...smiling at YOU
The greatest Hero in all of art history.
Love Van Gogh’s work … as an aspiring or beginner painter I love painting flowers like Van Gogh’s. Van Gogh’s works are amazing … thank you for the documentary.
Excellent documentary !! His art has some air of melancholy hidden behind beautiful colors . His sister in law was a gem !!
This shows that any artist needs people behind him or her to believe in them, to promote their art. I honestly wish I had a Joanna behind me. I share much in spirit with Vincent. I don't copy his work, or even study his style, there was only one Vincent. It is important that I have my own style.
Likewise we have our own Stiles and mediums
I have studied and loved Vincent for more than fifty years and this documentary gave me much that I didn't already know. I believe I shall continue to learn about him for the rest of my life. Thank you so much.
Amazing beautiful story in so many MAGICAL WAYS. THANK YOU MS. BONGER/ SISTER IN LAW!
Yes, she translated all his letters and had them published. I have read all the three volumes, page by page and line by line. Had it not been for her, not many would have known about him. It is called promotion. Regardless of an artist's abilities, without it, fame cannot be achieved. Sometimes, it can be self promotion. Greatest artists such as Courbet and Manet held their own independent shows by the official buildings! Picasso was a master of self promotion. The fact remains that many who are not good at it, yet are great artists, fall by the way side.
your exactly right, you (or someone close to you) has to do the initial promoting. It is absolutely essential. Without it
you'll flounder
@@spactick Right on! Thanks!
@@expromanticart6491 why are you so fascinated by Vincent? he's certainly not a better draftsman than Degas. He didn't have the effect of art as Cezanne did. And he only really produced his finest work in the last few years of
his life etc; so what's up?
Wow. She was great. I really like the art of Van Gogh although I am not an artist. He was a very special artist.
@@spactick it is what his works make us feel - at least many of us who had the pleasure to enjoy many of his original works. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Another great addition to these videos on Van Gogh. Thank you.
She was great.She learned how the art world worked and plugged in.very hard work.
I love quality people, smart people who feel with there heart at the highest level. I'm and artist and I appreciate her intelligence and love for her Husband and her brother in-law. She did it for love❤
Great respect always to Joanna for pure love and determination. Did not know she remarried and again was widowed soon after.
For whats its worth,
1901 Johanna Gezina Bonger van Gogh married Johan Henri Gustaff (Gustave) Cohen Gosschalk
1912 Johan Gosschalk dies
Would appear they were married for about 11 years, compared to Johanna being married to Theo. van Gogh for 21 months.
So, the question is since Theodorus van Gogh died of syphilis and they were married with child, Vincent Wilem, did Johanna get syphilis?
The portrait of Johanna above in the title shot was done by Johan Gosschalk. He helped in promoting Vincent van Gogh.
I'm an artist and before I herd and seen Vincent Van Gogh I was influence by him my art in some ways are similar to his I draw nature like him I'm getting better and I drew Sun flowers and nature even before I know about Vincent Van Gough. I suffer from depression but this is way I started doing art. When I learn about what kind of person he was I was more impressed with him. It's too bad he suffered so much he was ahead of his time. I don't believe he killed himself but how ever he died it bought him peace. I believe his mental health would probably have gotten worse they didn't have medicine or technology to help him. I saw one of the movies about him and the person who played him said maybe his art was not for his day but it's for future generations it came true that really struck me. Now I can't get enough of him he brings be peace.
He did attempt suicide, shot himself in the chest, a shame he didn't go out and shoot a couple of art dealers instead
Yes, I don't believe he killed himself either. Some young boys from the village did it, and Vincent didn't want them to go to prison; it is the last theory from researchers. Vincent was shot in the village; he couldn't have walked all the way from where he was painting to his house after shooting himself.
Vincent Van Gough was an INFP personality type, an Introverted Feeling type; he was very sensitive and felt everything very deeply. He was very different to others and people didn't understand him. He didn't take good care of himself; he didn't eat properly and drank too much. He spent the little money that he had (from his brother) in painting materials instead of food.
Vincent Van Gough had a beautiful soul. He was quite smart and well read. You can read the letters that he wrote to his brother in the book "Lettres `a son frere Theo" (Cartas a Theo).
Theresa, you write " It's too bad he suffered so much he was ahead of his time." I know you understand this, as did Don Mclean when he wrote,
"Now, I think I know what you tried to say to me
How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free
They would not listen, they're not listening still
Perhaps they never will"
As do I when I say that the people who love his work are the very people that cannot afford his work, outside of museums/galleries' the rest are simply making investments
(perhaps if I'm cynical even the museums/galleries) and to me that is very sad.
Yes, the shooting was accidental. Two young boys who followed him around sometimes had gotten hold of the revolver from their home. One child had received a "wild west" costume had brought the gun from home to "complete" the outfit and playing with the gun near Vincent working, accidentally shot him. Vincent didn't tell anyone about the injury because he didn't want the boys to be in trouble. He just went back to his room to lie down and bled to death. The boys' family moved out of the village that very day. It was a deathbed confession of the older boy (not the shooter) that revealed it. It all adds up. People from the village saw him walking back to his room and that he looked pale and slow and unwell, with blood on his shirt. Vincent refused help from everyone who saw him on his way back to his room. It all adds up.
@@DanNic88 See comments below. A deathbed confession has changed and brought light to the story of his death.
Thank you for this story...and this lady
On Saturday, September 17,2022,my friend Douglas and I spent three hour hours at the Minneapolis Institute of Art, in Minneapolis. It was the last day of a special Van Tough exhibition. We did not see this room, because when I was a Junior High School student, perhaps in 8th grade, my parents took me to a Van Tough exit at The Seattle Art Museum. It was fanstastic! But I thought I could paint and draw as good asVincent. Now at 75, I realize what a foolish thing and assumption. I was an Art student at the Art School, at The UK of Washington in Seattle. In one Art History class, I wrote a paper comparing Vincent's PIEta, and his Artist friend, Paul Taught 's the Yellow Christ. I know the power of Art. Vincent's importance.
The storage is always a big problem.🤔😒
Respect of all she did, all artists need a woman like her.
Thank you for a beautifully made documentary completing the biography of one of my all time favorite artists.
Wonderful! Thank you!
I am enthralled my the excellent acting. Thank You for such a creative and informative look this incredible woman.
Suddenly saw...wonderful woman Johanna let whole world know....thank you all
let it always live and show
Love every colour in Vincent's
painting....can't say....so much more show..,♥️💛🖌️🎨🌈
This documentary was beautifully done. I finally got to watch the history of Van Gogh’ brothers and know about Joanna. Very much entertained ~ Kudos to people behind putting this together.
Wow what an extraordinary woman!
It is unbelievable what she did. The works of Vincent were somewhere in a dark corner at Theo's gallery. Costumers won't even look at them. She could have put them in a trash can and forget, remary and totaly ignore all that. For how next to impossible it might have seemed at that time. And she is not even a blood relative. It was heroic what she did. Increadible story. Heartbreaking, yet beautiful. This woman deserves a place in art history! So exeptional! Thank you for the film.
The story of Vincent, Theo and Joanna is so amazing and somewhat unbelievable…how each was so critical in altering the art world to what it currently is today.
Vincent is the Christ…Theo is the Paul…and Joanna is the Mary in this biblical parallel of the art world.
"Praise the Lord Brother, Praise the Lord", "I'm on my way to our neighborhood church after I've snorted some of my powdered turpentine," HALLELUJAH" "HALLELUJAH" ''VINCENT RULES"
maybe Vincent was too intense to become a minister but he had a love for the gospel inherited from his minister father and he had a soft spot for the hurts of the world. The twelve sunflowers are representation of the apostles. His worship of god through his work as a painter.
@@pdxeddie1111 your making wayyyyyyy too much into Mr. Van Gogh's sunflower paintings. Vinny (as I like to call him) probably just liked painting sunflowers because they were easy to paint after an all nighter at the local brothel. As we all know, Vinny was a party animal. A beast
Behind every 'great man' is a woman whose name is scarcely known to the public.
@@tomobedlam297 This is not even a crime documentary, your comment is irrelevant
also women and girls are most likely to be killed by their partner or ex bruh
Feminist propaganda
With your comment you have triggered the racist & male chauvinist bigots :)
@@2012MariCarmen Reject all forms of feminism.It's days are numbered.
@@petermasterson8276 I guess that depends on what everyone understands for "feminism". I am not a feminist, but I believe in equality of opportunities. However, I don't believe in equality of outcome, hardworking people and geniuses shouldn't be level down.
Very touching video!
Thank you very much. Never grow tired of learning and this documentary is enlightening.
thanks....i did a sketch of him....and he gave it life
✒️One of the better parts of being a woman is as Jane Austin put it, “All the privilege I claimclaim for my own sex is that of loving longest when all hope is gone.” Joanns dedication was astounding and to this day we know the names of these people by her hard work and belief of the love her husband had for his brother. I wonder what became of her son?🖋
Her son was Vincent Willem van Gogh. After the death of his mother in 1925 he did the same as his mother did. Thanks to him there was a Van Gogh Museum in 1973. His eldest son Theodoor van Gogh was killed by the nazis. A grandson Theo van Gogh was murdered by a mislim.
@@hollandmeester347 thank you bunches I hope they all can meet again in paradise. And when they do I hope Vincent paints the scene.👨🏼🦰
@@sonyalindee8676 He will. In extra full Vincent colours. Thanks to Jo and her son Vincent Willem, who was named after his uncle, the world came to know what a genius Vincent was. At the beginning no artgallery wanted to show his paintings. Not even his own uncle artdealer Vincent ""uncle Cent"". Did you know another uncle Johannes van Gogh ""uncle Jan"" was a famous viceadmiral who fought on battleships and got medals? When Vincent was still a kid this uncle gave the Van Gogh-children a shipdog named Fedor who had travelled the whole world on Dutch ships. Because of this uncle Jan Vincent's youngest brother Cor went to the Dutch Capecolony, fought the invading Brits and was killed by them. At least 5 Van Goghs died by murder by the hands of schoolboys, English, Japanese, Nazis and mislims. Another familymember Michiel van Gogh was famous during Holland's Golden Age as an artdealer and ambassador to England whereby the Dutch States General gave Charles II the socalled ""Dutch Gift"" ........ with paintings. Vincent's father and grandfather were priests. It would be a great idea to produce a movie called Van Gogh about the whole family with special attention for Vincent ofcourse.....
Auction houses know nothing about art. They only smell the money! They don't know Van from Von! They are basically salesmen or saleswomen. Their haughty characteristics make us think they are educated in art, but that is just hot air! Instead of all this nostalgic attention bestowed on Van Gogh as great as he was, it would do the art community a lot of good to care for and to discover the geniuses who are hard to detect among the millions of artists. God knows how many fall by the way side. At the time of Van Gogh, only a few people knew of him, and very few appreciated his capabilities. These are the facts. He was a great colorist and an admirer of the greatest artist of the last two hundred years, Delacroix! He was also a colorist! Being a colorist does not mean just using colors! After all, we all use colors when we paint. It means that an artist gives colors the highest value and importance. The ability to paint a harmonious colorful pictures comes with a lot of experience. We have all seen the many colors some artists splash on surfaces, yet the results are usually gory! No harmony is achieved, and harsh juxtaposition is only attained. A part of this ability is innate, but developing it takes time and practice. My best works in that manner were painted instinctively. Yet after many years, they have got better and better. Because the art world is so crowded, it is difficult to discover the exceptional artists who make their own realism or create their own unique styles. A high carat rough diamond is very rare, but there is an abundance of smaller stones.
Deeply Insightful. Important perspective.
Obviously Johanna was a very intelligent woman. Thank you for the documentary.
Artists need a patron, a promoter. In our contempory time we have our idols. The promoter of Brian Eno and Bob Dylan' turn out to be their mother in law. Thank you mother in laws.
mothers in law
I think the whole story contributes a lot to the financial aspect of the valuation of van Gogh's art.🙂
Excellent documentary revealing the crucial point in time that without Bonger Vincent might be unknown and the world a much poorer place.
It also shows how tangential art pieces can be with fire and wars.
Thank you for uploading this incredibly informative documentary!
I didn't know about her and her work until visiting the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam. Glad for this documentary as I'm fascinated with this element of his story.
I went to the Van Gogh museum when I went home to England a stonemason asked me if I went to the red light district I said no but I went to the museum he said you went to Amsterdam and did not go to the red light district, I said you went to Amsterdam and did not go to the Van Gogh museum.
So, in this story the mason gets laid but not hosed?
... hosed for not going to the museum but getting laid while you got hosed going to the museum but not getting laid?
The van Gogh brothers did both.
Which leads to the question, if Theo van Gogh died from the effects of syphilis did his wife Johanna also have it?
I like the sunflowers, but that's it; I like them. What really moves me are the landscapes, especially the landscapes that include "working people" laboring. I am a musician. Also some of the character studies of working people, or "ordinary" people. Perhaps you might think it is cliche thing to say about a portrait, but Vincent paintings do not just capture and display someone's image, his paintings seem to show their soul. Whatever that means. I like and enjoy paintings, but they generally don't move me emotionally the way music does - except for some of Vincent's paintings. Theo's wife made Vincent famous. Who knows how many other great creations have actually been simply thrown away, as Vincen'ts might have been, because someone like Theo's wife was not around to popularize them. I tend to think most works of genius do get simply thrown away.. Vincent's creations were a peculiar exception. I've read some of Vincent's letters to Theo, and I felt that Vincent was quite nuts, and could easily be a pain in the pupic to be around.Quite cuckoo. I think his paintings were an exception from his nuttiness. I look at Vincent's brush strokes and I can't decide if I am looking at an image, or mere brush strokes. The strokes, by themselves, are like music. My father was an artist, and I am feeling guilty because I discarded one of his paintings. I knew it was good but I had no money and no place to keep it. So I just threw it away.
some of this is incorrect and speculation...she didnt inherit the work, her infant did, so her motivations were different. but what she did was great. the reason so many artists remain unknown is that no one in their lives kept track of the work and letters
Remarkable and so inspiring to know about Joanna Bonger now.
This was stunning , fabulous
My heart breaks for those who did not recognise brilliance. Is it still happening today?
Yes
I am sure there are some people who dislike his art but hey they probably decorate their house with Mickey Mouse.
I kept hearing joanna bongo... nice documentary, one person to believe in your work is very valuable
Its because she, mainly through his brother who cherished him deeply, knew the extent of Vincent's pain. And it was this pain that was baked into his artwork. Do you hide, bury, and destroy that pain? Or do you release the beauty within it for the world to enjoy.
Glad she gets some recognition
Amazing documentary! Thank you!
Thank you this is so well done.
Very informative, insightful, and inspirational. Thank you.
Loved this documentary... well done... thank you ! 👨🏼🎨♥️🎨
She knew the depth of her husband and his brother , Vincent Van Gogh’s relationship.
Thank you. I have always wanted more information on how Jo did it! What a story! But, I do think that quite a lot is missing here such as what happened directly before getting an exhibition in Amsterdam so that the rich came to view Vincent van Gogh's work. There is a long bridge between no one knowing the value of works and the rich planning to buy those works. That part is not discussed here. What did Joanna van Gogh do to promote the works between say, 1892 and 1913? I am keen on getting to the facts as I have learnt the hard way that many people know that to leave the facts out can be part of deliberately telling me how to think. I simply like to acquire all the chronological details. I do not insult or criticise. I crave information!
@elizabethdarley8646 If I remember well Johanna started to make appointment with art dealers, since Theo was one and their uncle Vincent (uncle Cent) . So the name v Gogh was known in the art world. That,s how she got the first attention and exhibitions. Going from art gallery to art gallery.When Johanna still had all the paintings at the house they were all over the place, even in little Vincent"s room above his bed ( The almond blossom that was made for him) 1962 the paintings that were left in the house were sold by the v Gogh family for 15 mil . to the state of the Netherlands under the condition they would build a v Gogh museum. That museum opened with those paintings and all the letters and all of other belongings from Vincent in 1972 .
Such a beautiful story of love between the two brothers and then Theos wife.
She was a wonderful FORCE.
I remember the first time I saw Irises at the Getty , I was blown away by the vibrancy of the colors. When I went back several years later, it didn't seem the same. When I looked closer, I saw that a piece of glass had been placed over the canvas for security reasons, It muted the beautiful colors, such a shame that others would never be able yo see his eork the way I once did.
Wow! The painting of Joanna resembles my face features. When i sent picture of that painting to my husband he thought i painted myself as old woman.
Woow love the video sweetie pie and im loving the way the story is told.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF
GREATEST PAINTINGS EVER MADE 💯🔥🥂💋
She played the most important role because without her, we’d probably have nothing of Vincent or Theo.
Jo Van Gogh-Bonger was a real artlover and made her brother-in-law Vincent well known all over the world...... like her late husband Theo would have done for his elder brother......... and her son Vincent Willem did for his uncle after her death...... in 1925. Without Jo and especially Vincent Willem there would not be a Van Gogh Museum in 1973.
Important. Thank you for your efforts. Great series.
This was amazing thankyou 🌺
So very excellent! Bravo
Thank you!
another great documentary thanks
ドキュメンタリー映画は，何というですか？請問紀錄片的片名是什麼呢？感謝您。
Very interesting, valuable documentary. Congratulations and thanks to all involved.
I would like to hear some more words from the early buyers as well as from Johanna Bonger, if they exist, expressing what they saw in the paintings. Can anyone tell me if any letters or diaries have been published? It's slightly frustrating to have everything mediated through the words today's experts. Good to see so many of the paintings including lost ones.
Directors seem to struggle with presenting paintings on film. Best for me is a "full frontal " still view including frame held for a few moments, followed by a slowly scrolling scan over the whole painting mid distance and then some close ups of brush strokes and finally a zoom out to a final 'still' shot. James Kalm is a master at this.
Paintings are "stills" and don't need to be seen with a constantly roving eye.
Not true, Van Gogh was known and recognized amongst his peers. He was on the brink of great fame when he died. See the Great Expectations channel segment regarding Van Gogh.
What is not true?
His Sister did not launch him to fame.
thank yu for sharing this
I think that she did a good job ❤
I have a fantasy where I go back in time, meet Van Gogh and get him to
paint 2 pictures for me ( one to keep and the other to sell). After
spending time with him he would hopefully write about the encounter in
his diary and hence give provenance when the painting comes to auction.
Picasso would be my next destination in his blue period. What about
everyone else? Which artist would you go back in time to meet and ask to
paint for you?
I would love to write a book where they bring Vincent and Theo are brought back to life ,the first thing Vincent would need is teeth implants.
Sometimes his paintings look super realistic.
Almost “Surreal” like so real it looks unreal haha, his brush stroke technique is unbeatable he used those as a way to ad tremendous amounts of detail to his paintings which I love, Another thing I have come to notice is he is one of the FEW painters/artists who can actually do a pretty accurate self portrait without a picture to base off of.
not mentioned...very few letters were dated, she spent twenty yrs putting them in chronological order ,kudos to Jo
Mila Giganti: yes it is true that Vince had a gift for expressing his emotions thru pushing oil over the surface of a stretched canvas, but it is
also the innocent subject matters (shoes, his room, close-up portraits etc;) that grab you and the tragic story of his life. Poor guy just couldn't get a break. I'm sure if Vince was alive today he'd have 3 or 4 hot girlfriends, driven a Porsche 911 and vacationing on his yacht off the coast
of Monte Carlo. Vince would be THE MAN that anybody who was anybody would wanna be seen with. The stud of the art world
Is that the guy from Outcast?? tremendous actor!!
Thank youfor the upload
The part I really hate the most is that she needs to be included in the recognition of Vincent's discovery. I think she was an exceptionally minded person who understood the direction of where art was going, Art is at the moment and breaking the present pointing towards the future. Art is. Human existence is nothing. Results show potential. Her investment in Vincent was how she understood his artistic value. History should be informed about who this person was. JOANNA BONGER!!!!!!!!! She should be recognised as the person who recognised her brother in law Vincent.
Isn't it wonderful that she was so determined to do this thing, led by her personal "lights", against, perhaps, "common sense", and do an extraordinary job of it. Amazing lady.
RIGHT ON BROTHER! POWER TO THE SISTER IN-LAWS
Wonderful video
I dont know why Van Gogh's brother didn't get him some publicity for his paintings.Vincent Van Gogh's brother was a painting dealer who represented the most famous painters of the time the Impressionists.
why? what was he suppose to do? he was supporting him and giving him his moral support, what else was he suppose to do? he
had his own family and business interests to take care of. If Vincent had been a little more patient and not taken his life I'm sure
things would have eventually gotten better
Very interesting documentary! 👍🏻
9:47👈🏻 My only complaint is that I would have liked to see the one and only existing photo of Vincent Van Gogh in addition to the two pictures of his brother, Theo Van Gogh, taken at the ages of 15 and 22.
Oh, and one more thing; His name is Vincent Willem Van Gogh. - Not *“Fan Cough”!*
Van Gogh is the Rodney Dangerfield of the art world. Poor guy just couldn't get a break. Just seemed that everything he did (except his art)
turned into a disaster a la mode. The chicks didn't like him. Kids made fun of him. Couldn't hold down a regular job. Sold one painting during
his lifetime for approx $78.00 that today is probably worth more than $100,000,000. I know life isn't fair, but poor Vincent got the short end
of the stick.
I have doubts as to whether Vincent actually shot himself.
I might as well have been the children that circled around him always to taunt him!
In order to spare the children all prosecution Vincent took it upon himself.