China says they should be part of China, some minister or someone said that. They reasoned that Bhutan was part of a Chinese dynasty a few hundred years ago.
@@aksmex2576 I haven't looked at this specific case at all, but usually when someone says "china claims this territory" it usually originate from "this random guy said that this territory used to be part of china"
@PANTIME The DRC says Mongolia is a part of China though. It's a weird political loop. If they give up their claim on Mongolia, it means they give up their claim on mainland China. I forget why, but it's leading to an awkward situation with Mongolia. I think the DRC also claims some place in Kyrgyztan.
@@lakeblackBLM there is no moral difference between people like you, and the people who justify British colonisation of my people based on us having slavery and cannibalism
@@ghandithesupremeleader9740 Bhutan’s relation to India is comparable to that of European micro states to their larger neighbours, India deals with defence and foreign affairs, but domestic stuff is completely independent from New Delhi
@Joshua Mills they don't care about other countries they just want to help the lives of their citizens and even if they did get political their voice would be small. Most outside relations are do to religion.
@@bubbykins4864 Please note that Taiwan does not equal to the Republic of China. ROC claims sovereignty in both mainland China and Taiwan (also Mongolia), referring to the former as the occupied area and the latter as the free area. So technically one can both not recognize Communist China and Taiwan.
@@dylan_not_dillon Shut up. I have the mandate of heaven as a written document, signed by heaven itself. That makes me the only legal authority in china
@@abhishekacharjee9931 alright what is communism? It's a stateless, classless, moneyless society where capital is collectively owned. It's the end goal of socialism which can only be reached on e there is enough resources for everyones needs. Socialism is workers ownership of the means of production. In China they have neither. Either they have state companies that exploit them or normal imperialist companies from the US and Europe that exploit them. Just because a country calls it something doesn't mean they are something. That's not hard to understand so the reason Americans think they are communists is just because they don't know the definition of communism and even if they called them socialist they wouldn't be right either. The only good thing with China is that it challenges US imperialism through Chinese imperialism.
Bullshxt~ Republic of China: I am the real China! People's Republic of China: No, I am the real China! And Taiwan is a part of China! Republic of China: Fine, I am Taiwan! People's Republic of China: Yes great, that's what we're keep talking about, you are Taiwan province~
Countries that still recognize ROC (2021): Paraguay, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, Nicaragua, Haiti, Palau, Tuvalu, Marshall Islands, Vatican City, and Eswatini (Swaziland)
Nicaragua ? No wonder, China has squandered Nicaragua with low quality, under performance Hydro dam at the foot of a volcano 🌋. Chinese contractor, workers & materials given low steel & turbine quality, plus get cheated to built that hydro dam at bottom of unstable mountain (volcano)... The worse still, debt to China in billion of dollars still on-going.
@Happy You mean the legitimate government established in 1912 that cast off authoritarianism and has a free society? If they choose to stop claiming the rest of China, it's their right to do so. The communist bandits have never controlled Taiwan. Taiwan's people are free to choose their own future.
Everyone else: _Recognises either of the Chinas_ The Glorious Thunder Dragon Empire of Bhutan: I'm gonna do a pro gamer move by recognising neither of you!
I’d be interested in seeing a timeline of recognition for Chiang Kai-shek’s Nanjing government after the Northern Expedition. Apparently this government managed to get international recognition over the Beiyang Warlords only after 1928.
They are right, the funniest part is the militar dictatorships (suposeddly right wing by accord of neocon USA lovers boomers and progressists from left) recognized the PRC, not the democratic ones
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@Kaiser IV is “iberic” really the right word, coulda just said Latin America lol, tho countries like Venezuela and Cuba seem to be selling out to China
@@arminhillman7956 they don't even want to be the legitimate chinese government. that time has passed and they want their own identity now. it is still a massive cope though to call the tiny island housing the losers of a civil war the legitimate government though lol
@@arminhillman7956 meanwhile the "fake chinese government" commands the world's second largest economy and has most of the ethnic chinese population. the reds won the civil war, taiwan lost, get over it
Even with all the allegations against them, the Communists were the clear winners in the civil war. Even America knows that. That's why the People's Republic is the widely recognized China.
Taiwan: "We're off to a great start." Taiwan: "Okay, just a temporary set back but we will come out on top." Taiwan: "We will be fabled for how close we came before bouncing back up." Taiwan: "OH COME ON!"
Too true. Mad conservatives say: freedom of speech bad in China that means Taiwan better. Meanwhile Taiwan is the same but poorer with less workers rights
@@roberto2044 we are happy with the peace considering how South Asia is. Plus free education and Healthcare thats something to be happy about. But we have our problems still then we are happy.
@@P_Dendu The mean years of education is 3.1 but the expected mean years is 12.5. That’s really great progress. Respect from China (the real one of course)
Taiwanese here. If you dig a hole from Taiwan, in a straight line through the core of the Earth... Bada bing, bada boom! You reached our friend Paraguay!
I have no idea if you'll see this but I have no idea how else to ask this: How do you do research for the territory gained/lost between each frame? What sources do you use and how would you even begin to look? Or is it a situation where the exacts don't matter so much as the general trend?
@@zhuoshuilin4216 The Qin didn't last very long. The Han would be a better contender to be honest. But Tang was the golden age. Historians agree as such.
the civil war has not ended yet, there is no any aggreement between Mainland and Taiwan. Legally, Mainland China and Taiwan are still at war, just without actually fire. In my memory, the millitary conflict are still keep hanppening until 80s.
This is not a civil war, this is a conflict between a communist country and a democratic country. The relationship between the United States and Russia is best described, but it is worse. Russia does not want American land and sovereignty. If you really understand Chinese history, you will not think that the People's Republic of China has the right to annex Taiwan(ROC).
@Sousa Teuzii though we all disagree on many things (am socdem) let's atleast unite together in freeing Tibet,Hong Kong, Taiwan and Uyghurs from the CCP.
I remember a few years ago when we in the Domican Republic recognized the PRC, I think we still have good informal relations with taiwan though, after all we can still go there without a visa and there's a bunch of taiwanese people in the DR. Would have been nice if have kept official recognition though.
A lot of nations still have informal recognition of Taiwan, including the U.S., who is bound by treaty to defend it. I would be willing to bet that, as tensions between the U.S. and the P.R.C mount, countries will start flipping back to recognizing the R.O.C as a sort of diplomatic F**k you.
@@charlieputzel7735 It would take a lot to do that. Saying that China is an important trading partner to many countries, even Western ones, would be a serious understatement.
@@Vengir And American defense is even more important to a lot of these countries. America still rules the west, and Europe will side with us over China if pushed.
@@Vengir Sadly,yea...they're using their economical bullying as a strat whenever someone mentions Taiwan. Like spamming by Wumao(Chinese keyboard warrior who had the privilege of getting through the great fire wall),banning their product and just like "NO IT'S A PART OF US REEEE SAY THAT OR WE HATE U REEE REEEE"
What truth? All nations are illegitimate; truth in this regard is subjective. The terms of sovereignty and legitimacy are descriptive, not prescriptive. Did the PRC engage in illegal rebellion and usurption against the RoC? Sure. Did the RoC do the same against the Warlords? The Warlords against the Qing?
@@jefferylue8260 What does that have to do with anything? The ROC predates the CCP, so long as the ROC exists and holds any territory whatsoever, the CCP are just bandits.
China: Hey America if you continue to recognize Taiwan we will sanction trade US: okay I will not recognize Taiwan *has frequent diplomatic talks, trades with, and sends troops to Taiwan* China: what is that? US: Nothing
I recognize both. Over the years they became different enough from each other that you just can’t say that one or the other doesn’t exist or is a part of a one side.
Different, maybe, b/c of ~80 years of separation, but both of their constitutions claim that they are the same country, China. The mainland government is still committed to reunification.
That would not really change anything, and might add more complications. According to both, there is only one China; the argument is who rules it. Recognizing both means believing there are two Chinas, which neither Beijing nor Taipei would accept (especially now; China is economically brutal to those who hint at accepting Taiwan). Full diplomatic relations with one would have to include reduced relations with the other. As for not recognizing their territorial claim to the third largest territory on the planet, this literally cannot happen. If they don’t own it, who does? Any answer other than “China” would anger and confuse 1/6th of the world’s population and run the risk of reviving the anti-colonialism akin to the last days of the empire. And that, no one needs nowadays.
@@C.V317 Under the DPP, the Taiwanese govt hasn't signed up to that one China principle. And I'd assume he means parts that aren't controlled by the PRC or ROC. Like the ROC claims on the mainland (including Mongolia) or the PRC's claim on Taiwan. You're right, though, it'll make a lot of people very unhappy. Although I'm kind of used to the feelings of the Chinese people being hurt. It seems to happen every other day.
@@bobs_toys technically, Taiwan hasn’t accepted it because the two political blocs argue over Chinese nationalism (which recognizes Taipei as the capital of all China) and Taiwanese nationalism (which recognizes Taiwan as independent from China altogether). Another more serious block to Winter Nova’s plan (and one a lot of people forget) is what not recognizing the PRC means for Tibet. Since it was taken specifically by the PRC, does recognizing the ROC also mean recognizing the old Tibetan government? I’m not sure I agree with your interpretation of what he was saying, since a lot of countries already argue about who owns the territories you mentioned; it wouldn’t really change anything. But all of these competing claims explains China’s attitude towards changes in opinion on the matter. Hence why they’re always upset.
Then you'd have to listen to the incessant whining of CCP 'ambassadors', better just to recognize the ROC and arrest any CCP bandits who come onto your territory.
I'm pretty sure this is based off of government opinions and not popular opinions. Most people would probably prefer to live in Taiwan over current mainland China.
@@dwimj Governments support the PRC because (obviously) but i think most people despise the PRC due to their lack of freedom, communism, unethical and human rights abuses, violence towards non Han Chinese culture and religion, unethical diplomacy and so on. Taiwan is basically the good China
The One-China Policy is just something that China demands other countries to do. As a nation you can choose not to follow it, but China will most likely not want to deal with you in diplomacy and trade.
Most of the diplomatic changes shown in this video happened during the 1960s and 1970s, a period when the RoC was under the military dictatorship of Chiang-Kai Shek, who executed tens of thousands of dissidents extrajudicially and was also responsible for numberless atrocities on the mainland in the 1930s and 1940s. I assume you have no idea what you're talking about?
@@KaiserMattTygore927 When did I say that the RoC didn't exist? I never said otherwise? Did I say the RoC was a "void"? Do quote me if I did. I was talking about OP's absurd claim of how "liberty and justice" died in the 1970s because a bunch of foreign bureaucrats refused to recognise a terrorist state?
One China policy only applies in China, other countries can do as they want, recognize one, the other, both, or simply not recognize either and declare it terra nullius. That's the perk to being a sovereign power, you can do whatever you please and the sword alone is the arbitrator of truth.
Most of governments know Taiwan, but recognize PRC as the real China because PRC won the civil war and have much larger economy, also if they don't recognize PRC there will be no trade within countries because PRC take it very seriously.
@Souven Tudu one China policy and the Taiwan consensus. Meaning countries cannot have official relations with both (only 1). Without this,countries may have been able to recognise both.
No. Most of ppl know Taiwan as a part of China. Special region of China. Same with Macau and Hongkong. If u ask ppl "where is taiwan", the answer mostly will be like.. "somewhere in china" or something like that.
The real KEY difference is these states never have the chance to have their own army, congress, president or so. If a state can have this and remains independent for 70 years, it would be just anti-america like taiwan to china. Any government having power will try anyway to keep that power, that's it.
Democracy can't justify everything, Hitler is also a democraticly elected leader. Taiwan is never an independent entity, and the land and properties on it belongs to the entire chinese people (not mentioning the entire China's reserve was brought to Taiwan on 1948); if it wants independence, they must seek agreement with all chinese people, not just that little group on the island
UK could’ve played some serious memes on the PRC over Hong Kong. PRC: “Gib HK” The UK: “The contract we signed was with Qing Dynasty so you know...”. Or “Ok PRC we will give China Hong Kong back” *Hong Kong was seceded to Taiwan* PRC: “Bruh”.
To get a lot more out of the video, I suggest watching it 4 additional times, each time focusing on only one region of the world: Europe, Africa, Asia & Oceania, Americas. As someone who favors recognition of the ROC (or both), I found myself going, "OOOhhh" a lot throughout the video as countries progressively turned red. I recall being disappointed a few years back when I found out that Panama (where most of my relatives live) switched. I didn't realize that my home country of the US held out longer than many of its "Western" peers, though it's really not too surprising considering that the most sacred American value is capitalism.
@@angusyang5917 Yeah, unfortunately, if you just take a look at public perception in Taiwan, ROC is slowly losing support for continuing to be China. They still have a legitimate claim to the mainland, but until WW3 breaks out I’m pretty sure they’re stuck being mostly considered as Taiwan instead of ROC.
@@thesquishedelf1301 I mean if world war three breaks out they’ll be the only non-nuclear wasteland since mainland China will have been nuked to hell and back
@@clement28300yip Could be but that title is refused by the PRC. ‘Taiwan’ doesn’t exist but the ROC does. It’s a matter of how the ROC could change its consensus (via PRC/UN) and become two separate China’s but PRC insist on reunification.
the normal thing to do is recognizing the communist china Republic china lost against communist china. So what? It's same like Vietnam. Communists the winner of the civil war. And the chad is not recognizing both XD
Thank god for that. The PRC is committing genocide, so i seriously question the morality of anyone who legitimately thinks the PRC is better than Taiwan.
Hope China is free from communism. Communist party is literally committing Genocide against Uyghurs, Tibetians. Real China is 🇹🇼🇹🇼 🇹🇼. Free Tibet, Free Turkestan, Free Hong Kong.
As a Taiwanese(ROC), I'm glad to see all the discussions here. The thing is, common Taiwanese(those who weren't fled to Taiwan after the civil war) no longer seek to be recognized as the legitimate government of China at all. But the situation is a bit complicated than that. The legitimate territory was written in our constitution. And whenever people talk about fixing the constitution, or changing the name of the country to Taiwan, Chinese government will threaten to invade Taiwan on such moves. It's almost like China forces Taiwan to continue this fight with it, so that with even the slightest step wrong, it can send an army to take over Taiwan since it's still an unsolved war. If they do take over Taiwan, then they can slowly dismantle Taiwan's society and economy until we are no longer a trouble to Bejing, just like what they are doing right now with Hong Kong and the Uyghurs. It's a bit sad to be living in this constant fright, but what can you do? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I am kazakh who lives beside two Great Powers want reveal one wisdom: "Everybody can be right because they are convinced that they are right but it is too much for our reality, that why if you want be right you must fight for that and be prepared to pay cost consequently" Ukranians and Palestinians know it well Just like Israelians and Russians
Bhutan: Hmm, I love the Tibetan and Chinese ocean to my north. If only there were a country with thousands of years of history, two governments, and billions of people here. Shame there isn't
Bhutan: Maybe if I sit really still, nobody will notice me.
Lets hope there aint no oil in Bhutan or itll become like Taiwan
Buthan is real china
"If we don't recognize them, maybe they won't recognize us"
Makes you wonder what China do they recognize... frickin Qing China?
Or maybe even further they would recognize the ming instead because machu(qing) weren't chinese
Fun fact: the only country in Europe who recognizes Taiwan as the one true China is the Holy See in Rome.
Roma Invicta!
Based pope francis
PRC is atheist so that isn’t really SURPRISING
Vatican epic
Based
Bhutan: China dies not exist
China says they should be part of China, some minister or someone said that. They reasoned that Bhutan was part of a Chinese dynasty a few hundred years ago.
its funny to think about how isolated bhutan is i think i recall them not recognizing croatia either
@@aksmex2576 Ironic they claim land on the basis of history, if any country can do that Mongolia could claim China lol
@@aksmex2576 I haven't looked at this specific case at all, but usually when someone says "china claims this territory" it usually originate from "this random guy said that this territory used to be part of china"
@PANTIME The DRC says Mongolia is a part of China though. It's a weird political loop. If they give up their claim on Mongolia, it means they give up their claim on mainland China. I forget why, but it's leading to an awkward situation with Mongolia. I think the DRC also claims some place in Kyrgyztan.
Every country in the world: discussing what is the real China
*Bhutan: there is no China*
Bhutan: *I'm China*
@@Mike-fn4ti oh no. Anyways..
It’s actually a neutrality stance so in case the ROC comes back they won’t be in trouble
the fact that bhutan doesn't recognized so many countries including US and China is amaze me
哈哈哈，真可笑，很有幽默感。
Broke recognise either
Woke: recognising neither
Bespoke: recognising both
ASCENDED: recognizing any of the dynasties as the real china.
Countries are fake
5th step(don't have a name):Recognise yourself as the one true China
T R A N S C E N D E D: Recognize all countries as the true China
1:00 Chad being a chad for recognizing both Chinas
1:10 aaaand it's gone....
Thought the same
Literally was thinking the same thing 😂
Money is changing people...
I agree with Chad
When the TH-cam commenters is sus 😣🧐😖🧐😖😕🤨😩🧐😤🧐🧐🧐🤓
Bhutan: "The country north of us. The Republic of Tibet you mean?"
Tibet: ruled as a cult with serfdom
Communists -invade-
Tibet: surprised pikachu face
+
Based bhutan; even if they fight from time to time, they’re homies today
@@lakeblackBLM there is no moral difference between people like you, and the people who justify British colonisation of my people based on us having slavery and cannibalism
Oh boy, let’s see how many whack job political ideologies we can collect in one comment section. Looks like we’re already off to a good start.
Paraguay: “Nope. Fake news.”
Nicaragua: Hey, I was about to say that
Honduras: Indeed, that's really odd
Guatemala: Why does it keep happening?
Haiti: I guess we'll never know
Paraguay are Brazil
Paraguay is the best guay
as someone from Paraguay I can agree.
Based Paraguay
Bhutan: Isolates itself from international affairs
Comment section: Yo why Bhutan so weirded
Bhutan has connections with india and nepal...
Bhutan for some reason recognises that all countries are equal, whether they are big or small.
@@ghandithesupremeleader9740 Bhutan’s relation to India is comparable to that of European micro states to their larger neighbours, India deals with defence and foreign affairs, but domestic stuff is completely independent from New Delhi
@Joshua Mills they don't care about other countries they just want to help the lives of their citizens and even if they did get political their voice would be small. Most outside relations are do to religion.
@@ghandithesupremeleader9740 Don't forget Bangladesh and Maldives. Bhutan is basically out of geopolitics with only 4 allies.
“I don’t recognise Communist China.
“So you recognise Taiwan as the real China?”
“No.”
hi
When there is war in Ba Sing Se: Panik
When you realize that there is no outside politics in Bhutan: Kalm
@@bubbykins4864 Please note that Taiwan does not equal to the Republic of China. ROC claims sovereignty in both mainland China and Taiwan (also Mongolia), referring to the former as the occupied area and the latter as the free area. So technically one can both not recognize Communist China and Taiwan.
@@Joseph-co7uh Technically one can, by considering Taiwan never legitimately part of China in the first place.
@@bubbykins4864 lol that's true as well
The chad Bhutan that only recognizes the China with a similar dragon flag like theirs...
Wales:*ahem* *ahem*...
@@countbinfaceglobalpresiden7926 The chad Bhutan doesn't recognise the UK
Qing is the real China!!
@@DBT1007 Han the real china
The only real China is Maos China
Had to reupload to fix a mistake. Eswatini should have been shown recognizing Taiwan.
OH ok.
eswatini is crucial i entirely understand
👍
You really care for the accuracy and details, I respect that
Tbh Swaziland is much better
New name is kinda strange
This video was banned in China but you can still watch it in China.
Wait what
@@aman-hl9re it’s banned in the PRC but you can watch it in Taiwan
@@pocketmarcy6990 Lil China already seems way more friendly than big one
Fun fact: you can actually just watch youtube in China through the greatest invention of mankind, VPN. And their govenrment just dont care
@@jolly3807 You're saying "already" and "seems" as if that isn't commonly known fact? I don't know how this could be new to anyone.
I wonder who Bhutan recognizes to be the legal authority of China, probably Qing
Edit: thanks for the likes everybody!
They recognize me as the legal authority of china
@@dismantledhenry5006 ah okay, that explains it.
@@dismantledhenry5006 No, they recognize ME you impostor
@@stagbeetle1050
WHAT ABOUT ME?
@@dylan_not_dillon Shut up. I have the mandate of heaven as a written document, signed by heaven itself. That makes me the only legal authority in china
Flip flopping Pacific countries are like who's currently investing more in us, Taiwan or China?
That's actually Taiwan. They provide some infrastructure projects there to try to get recognition. The US Isn't involved in that particular battle
@@leonardofranzinribeiro4220
They can't compete a market gigant that has 13-6 percent GDP growth
@@idiocrat3744 Yeah that's true, If mainland china wants to stop them, they can. Though mainland china does have bigger fish to fry.
@@leonardofranzinribeiro4220 The only problem of PRC is that US navy is protecting Taiwan
that's Taiwan or China, the Usa is not so invested in this battle for recognition of Taiwan.
0:54 Latvia: I hate communist, Imma gonna recognizes Taiwan as a real China
0:57 Latvia: nvm, China give me a lot of money
Lmao 😂
Typical of these right wingers in Europe. They want the money from the communists.
Yeah eastern countries do think every country that calls itself socialist is socialist or communist
@@daseapickleofjustice7231
China is basically run by a party called Communist Party of China,
I mean it's not a wild guess to call them communists
@@abhishekacharjee9931 alright what is communism? It's a stateless, classless, moneyless society where capital is collectively owned. It's the end goal of socialism which can only be reached on e there is enough resources for everyones needs. Socialism is workers ownership of the means of production. In China they have neither. Either they have state companies that exploit them or normal imperialist companies from the US and Europe that exploit them. Just because a country calls it something doesn't mean they are something. That's not hard to understand so the reason Americans think they are communists is just because they don't know the definition of communism and even if they called them socialist they wouldn't be right either. The only good thing with China is that it challenges US imperialism through Chinese imperialism.
"So who's legitimate, ROC or PRC?"
Burkina Faso until 2018: *yes*
We do the same with North Korea and South Korea
Bhutan: *None.*
@@bruhmoment-wq5cy hehehhehe you sus man what do they think is above them? Dirt?
Which is probably you xd 🤨😭😭😤🤨😤😤😤😏
@@gaming_bronut372 cringe
@B1ueSyrup susususuus xdxdxd jajajajaja yop. This 🥰😗🥰😜🥰🤣😂😂😂🤬🤬🤬🤬 big poop bucket of rice 🍚
Looks like in Command & Conquer when you play as the Soviets.
Nostalgia
@@Razorcarl it’s not
I get it xD
Imag7ne being sus 😨😏🤔🤨🤔🤔😛😥🤓🤫🤓🤓
@@gaming_bronut372 cringe
Taiwan: I am the real China!
China: No, I am the real China!
Taiwan: Fine, I am Taiwan!
China: No, you are China!
China: No, you are China!
Taiwan:???????????????????????
Bullshxt~
Republic of China: I am the real China!
People's Republic of China: No, I am the real China! And Taiwan is a part of China!
Republic of China: Fine, I am Taiwan!
People's Republic of China: Yes great, that's what we're keep talking about, you are Taiwan province~
@@民主youtube一直无理由 你這名子...你是真的被封過號嗎
@@gawrgura_so_cute641 被封过，不止一个
@@民主youtube一直无理由 ...你是干了什麼啊一直被封
Countries that still recognize ROC (2021): Paraguay, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, Nicaragua, Haiti, Palau, Tuvalu, Marshall Islands, Vatican City, and Eswatini (Swaziland)
All of the Based countries left in this world
You miss St. Lucia, St. Kitts & Nevis, St. Vincent & the Grenadines and Nauru
Nicaragua ?
No wonder, China has squandered Nicaragua with low quality, under performance Hydro dam at the foot of a volcano 🌋.
Chinese contractor, workers & materials given low steel & turbine quality, plus get cheated to built that hydro dam at bottom of unstable mountain (volcano)... The worse still, debt to China in billion of dollars still on-going.
@Happy You mean the legitimate government established in 1912 that cast off authoritarianism and has a free society?
If they choose to stop claiming the rest of China, it's their right to do so. The communist bandits have never controlled Taiwan.
Taiwan's people are free to choose their own future.
@@Tamamo-no-Bae If you think China is a communist country... I don't even know what to say to you.
More than 100 years have passed, and Bhutan is still recognizing his friend Qing Dynasty
The True China is the IMPERIAL CHINA 😈😈😈
The fact the Anglos gave in to the PRC so quickly is such an Anglo moment.
it was a deal to fight the soviet union.
There is a difference between recognizing and giving in. They had to recognize the PRC for UN security council which was also a large factor.
The Americans and plenty of other countries didn't give in to wishful imperialists too.
Hahahahah a your a sus man 😖😖🧐😤🧐😠🤨🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@gaming_bronut372 cringe
Everyone else: _Recognises either of the Chinas_
The Glorious Thunder Dragon Empire of Bhutan: I'm gonna do a pro gamer move by recognising neither of you!
🇧🇹
Kosovo: welcome in the club
I think that China won the battle of being the recognised China
*Yes but accually no*
I disagree, I think China won the battle of being the recognized China.
* angrily points at map *
China is China.
@@scooter_4070 i agree with you, china won the battle of being the recognized china, not china
But didn't China lost the battle ?
Bhutan: If China doesn't exist, it can't hurt me
But China is grabbing their territory
bhutan only recognized Qing dynasty as the ruler of china, not prc nor roc
Virgin: recognize both
Chad: recognize neither
Bhutan: Recognize Tibet
Republic of Chad recognizing both: the monster I have become
I’d be interested in seeing a timeline of recognition for Chiang Kai-shek’s Nanjing government after the Northern Expedition. Apparently this government managed to get international recognition over the Beiyang Warlords only after 1928.
This video gives something classic feelings.
It's music really reminds me of 2015 when I found Emperortigers' Channel first time.
Poor paraguay, so lonely in south america
Meanwhile in Eswatini: ...
They are right, the funniest part is the militar dictatorships (suposeddly right wing by accord of neocon USA lovers boomers and progressists from left) recognized the PRC, not the democratic ones
@Kaiser IV is “iberic” really the right word, coulda just said Latin America lol, tho countries like Venezuela and Cuba seem to be selling out to China
@Kaiser IV E estamos certos
@ Latin is like, generally used but Ibero is the right answer, is more exact and refers to what normally people refer to.
FINALLY! You wouldn't know how much Wikipedia muddling it took me to get a list of half of this. This is justice for those who need to know this!
Bhutan: "who is this being that lies north of me?"
Our frenemy Tibet😂
North Bhutan
no one noticed that a small blue pixel in Italy calls the PRC non existent
The Vatican.
Based Catholics
@@tortoisesoup16 hahahahahahah.
kinda sad, my heart is with ROC
You mean american largest military base?
@@lakeblackBLM He means the legitimate Chinese government.
@@arminhillman7956 *rebellious island you mean
@@arminhillman7956 they don't even want to be the legitimate chinese government. that time has passed and they want their own identity now.
it is still a massive cope though to call the tiny island housing the losers of a civil war the legitimate government though lol
@@arminhillman7956 meanwhile the "fake chinese government" commands the world's second largest economy and has most of the ethnic chinese population. the reds won the civil war, taiwan lost, get over it
Who is the real China?
"ME" said Taiwan and China at the same time
Let's divide up the land so everyone is happy.
@@abbyalphonse499 If only it were that simple.
@@abbyalphonse499 sike, they both get angrier
@@abbyalphonse499 Western Allies and Soviet Union be like:
flashbacks to the time where china was split into 16 chinas all claiming sovereignity over china
Of course it is more beneficial to recognize PRC than ROC, at least economically.
I mean these are the same guys who sent good paying jobs to china just for cheaper products.
ROC will send loads of money to small countries that recognize them
Even with all the allegations against them, the Communists were the clear winners in the civil war. Even America knows that. That's why the People's Republic is the widely recognized China.
@Mershikov and de jure.
@chinsaw2727 lmfao
Taiwan: "We're off to a great start."
Taiwan: "Okay, just a temporary set back but we will come out on top."
Taiwan: "We will be fabled for how close we came before bouncing back up."
Taiwan: "OH COME ON!"
Underrated comment. :)
@@j.s.7335 Give it time :)
Too true. Mad conservatives say: freedom of speech bad in China that means Taiwan better. Meanwhile Taiwan is the same but poorer with less workers rights
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 China does have censorship problems but not as bad as we've been told.
@@Amadeus8484 definetely not as bad. It's just that plain propaganda is regarded as common knowledge today
Bhutan feels like the Switzerland of Asia both geographically and politically lol 😂😂
But no in economy and development
u_u
@@roberto2044 their people are happy, that's what's important.
I dunno bro
@@roberto2044 we are happy with the peace considering how South Asia is. Plus free education and Healthcare thats something to be happy about. But we have our problems still then we are happy.
@@P_Dendu The mean years of education is 3.1 but the expected mean years is 12.5. That’s really great progress. Respect from China (the real one of course)
I like the purple people. They made me think philosophically about the matter.
Taiwanese here.
If you dig a hole from Taiwan, in a straight line through the core of the Earth...
Bada bing, bada boom! You reached our friend Paraguay!
Ah it all makes sense now 😅
Taiwan is austronesian homeland not chinese, give taiwan back to austronesian
@@khein2204 no
There only thing you will reach is the Ocean and become part of China.
I'm in mainland China, bless you.
is no one gonna talk about the fact that youre still uploading after 11 years
Interesting to see that only the small countries keep recognizing Taiwan, like Paraguay.
Paraguay isn't that small it's bigger than the UK Germany and Japan
@@kristaller9590 Small any way.
@@littleredbirdchirpin919 small population.
fun fact：PRC and RC never had a truce nor negotiation, so theoretical, the civil war never "ended".
It's not that useful to have a truce or agreement with the PRC ... it would be stupid if you trust the CCP.
I really love how you show different control within countries.
The bad ending.
The game over ending.
USA and Europe can’t even control the coronavirus maybe we can learn something from them
@@lakeblackBLM stop being wumao, wumao.
@@peepingtom9342 I don’t speak chinese
@@mnm1273 you’ve never been to Taiwan and China have you?
damn, paraguay do be the true ogs out here, never givin up on taiwan
I'm a simple man. When I see a new EmperorTigerstar video, I write a comment about being a simple man.
Countries that recognise neither: *my goals are beyond your understanding*
bhutan
Broke: PRC
Woke: Mainland Taiwan
@Kokoro Shimamura Which would be wrong how? #hawaiianempire
West Taiwan
@Kokoro Shimamura I think that was the joke. ^^'
@Kokoro Shimamura cringe indeed
@Kokoro Shimamura Wait? Are you suggesting Europe isn't just continental Britain? Now you're just being silly, we call them continentals for a reason.
Taiwan: I am the real China
China: NO! I am the real China
Bhutan: Liars China does not exist
bhutan only recognized Qing dynasty as the ruler of china, not prc nor roc
Her: "He's propably thinking about other girls"
Him: "I wish this map was bluer"
Wish lol
Don't we all, bro?
@@Fragolux yes
@Lynstaor >:^(
@Lynstaor i buy my consumer goods from taiwan, aka blue.
Ones that doesn't recognize both: *My goals are beyond your understanding*
I have no idea if you'll see this but I have no idea how else to ask this: How do you do research for the territory gained/lost between each frame? What sources do you use and how would you even begin to look? Or is it a situation where the exacts don't matter so much as the general trend?
Bhutan: you see my neighboor over there?
The world: yes?
Bhutan: WHO THE FAK IS THAT?!
bhutan only recognized Qing dynasty as the ruler of china, not prc nor roc
Broke: Recognizing PRC
Broke: Recognizing ROC
Woke: Recognizing the Qing dynasty as the one true China
Bespoke: Recognizing only the Ming dynasty
You spelled the Tang Dynasty wrong.
Beshook: Recognizing the Han Dynasty
You spelled the Qin Danasty wrong.
@@zhuoshuilin4216 The Qin didn't last very long. The Han would be a better contender to be honest. But Tang was the golden age. Historians agree as such.
the civil war has not ended yet, there is no any aggreement between Mainland and Taiwan. Legally, Mainland China and Taiwan are still at war, just without actually fire. In my memory, the millitary conflict are still keep hanppening until 80s.
This is not a civil war, this is a conflict between a communist country and a democratic country. The relationship between the United States and Russia is best described, but it is worse. Russia does not want American land and sovereignty.
If you really understand Chinese history, you will not think that the People's Republic of China has the right to annex Taiwan(ROC).
As a citizen of Republic of China, I'm so glad to see someone made this.
The party let you see this?
@@acenix1549 My homeland Republic of China(Taiwan) is a freedom country. It is different from People's Republic of China.
@@DidierLin Oh sorry, I thought you were from PCR, btw do you think they can see this?
I think the government blocks TH-cam in the PRC.
@Sousa Teuzii though we all disagree on many things (am socdem) let's atleast unite together in freeing Tibet,Hong Kong, Taiwan and Uyghurs from the CCP.
I remember a few years ago when we in the Domican Republic recognized the PRC, I think we still have good informal relations with taiwan though, after all we can still go there without a visa and there's a bunch of taiwanese people in the DR. Would have been nice if have kept official recognition though.
A lot of nations still have informal recognition of Taiwan, including the U.S., who is bound by treaty to defend it. I would be willing to bet that, as tensions between the U.S. and the P.R.C mount, countries will start flipping back to recognizing the R.O.C as a sort of diplomatic F**k you.
@@charlieputzel7735 It would take a lot to do that. Saying that China is an important trading partner to many countries, even Western ones, would be a serious understatement.
@@Vengir And American defense is even more important to a lot of these countries. America still rules the west, and Europe will side with us over China if pushed.
@@charlieputzel7735 sucks that America couldn’t defend against coronavirus
@@Vengir Sadly,yea...they're using their economical bullying as a strat whenever someone mentions Taiwan.
Like spamming by Wumao(Chinese keyboard warrior who had the privilege of getting through the great fire wall),banning their product and just like "NO IT'S A PART OF US REEEE SAY THAT OR WE HATE U REEE REEEE"
is amazing how money can buy even truth...
The Truth is more than 95% of population live under the rule of CCP.
Well, this is how capitalism works. Deal with it.
What truth? All nations are illegitimate; truth in this regard is subjective. The terms of sovereignty and legitimacy are descriptive, not prescriptive. Did the PRC engage in illegal rebellion and usurption against the RoC? Sure. Did the RoC do the same against the Warlords? The Warlords against the Qing?
@@jefferylue8260 What does that have to do with anything? The ROC predates the CCP, so long as the ROC exists and holds any territory whatsoever, the CCP are just bandits.
well to be fair, the majority of the world recognize them in 1970s, theyre still very poor back then
China: Hey America if you continue to recognize Taiwan we will sanction trade
US: okay I will not recognize Taiwan *has frequent diplomatic talks, trades with, and sends troops to Taiwan*
China: what is that?
US: Nothing
I recognize both.
Over the years they became different enough from each other that you just can’t say that one or the other doesn’t exist or is a part of a one side.
Different, maybe, b/c of ~80 years of separation, but both of their constitutions claim that they are the same country, China. The mainland government is still committed to reunification.
Maybe I'm built different, but the obvious solution is to recognize both as countries, but neither of their territorial claims.
One of these countries would be fine with that, the other would hit the roof.
That would not really change anything, and might add more complications. According to both, there is only one China; the argument is who rules it. Recognizing both means believing there are two Chinas, which neither Beijing nor Taipei would accept (especially now; China is economically brutal to those who hint at accepting Taiwan). Full diplomatic relations with one would have to include reduced relations with the other.
As for not recognizing their territorial claim to the third largest territory on the planet, this literally cannot happen. If they don’t own it, who does? Any answer other than “China” would anger and confuse 1/6th of the world’s population and run the risk of reviving the anti-colonialism akin to the last days of the empire. And that, no one needs nowadays.
@@C.V317 Under the DPP, the Taiwanese govt hasn't signed up to that one China principle.
And I'd assume he means parts that aren't controlled by the PRC or ROC. Like the ROC claims on the mainland (including Mongolia) or the PRC's claim on Taiwan.
You're right, though, it'll make a lot of people very unhappy.
Although I'm kind of used to the feelings of the Chinese people being hurt. It seems to happen every other day.
@@bobs_toys technically, Taiwan hasn’t accepted it because the two political blocs argue over Chinese nationalism (which recognizes Taipei as the capital of all China) and Taiwanese nationalism (which recognizes Taiwan as independent from China altogether).
Another more serious block to Winter Nova’s plan (and one a lot of people forget) is what not recognizing the PRC means for Tibet. Since it was taken specifically by the PRC, does recognizing the ROC also mean recognizing the old Tibetan government? I’m not sure I agree with your interpretation of what he was saying, since a lot of countries already argue about who owns the territories you mentioned; it wouldn’t really change anything. But all of these competing claims explains China’s attitude towards changes in opinion on the matter. Hence why they’re always upset.
Then you'd have to listen to the incessant whining of CCP 'ambassadors', better just to recognize the ROC and arrest any CCP bandits who come onto your territory.
Kind of disappointed at how almost nobody thinks that Taiwan exists.
I'm pretty sure this is based off of government opinions and not popular opinions. Most people would probably prefer to live in Taiwan over current mainland China.
@@karlisulmanis3810 i dont think so. I preferPRC. Cos ROC loss in civil war, they also brought all the gold reserve to taiwan
@@dwimj Governments support the PRC because (obviously) but i think most people despise the PRC due to their lack of freedom, communism, unethical and human rights abuses, violence towards non Han Chinese culture and religion, unethical diplomacy and so on. Taiwan is basically the good China
@@karlisulmanis3810 for me, taiwan is a part of China
It can also be that people recognize Taiwan as "Taiwan" and not "China", two different entities should be addressed differently.
I thought no one could recognise them both because of the "One China Policy"
You can recognize whatever you want. You'd just be wrong.
@@shanerooney7288 he's talking about diplomacy
I thought so too. Maybe neither Chinas noticed the two-timing for years. Because those were typically pretty inconsequential countries.
@@shanerooney7288 Or right. Depending on who you ask.
The One-China Policy is just something that China demands other countries to do. As a nation you can choose not to follow it, but China will most likely not want to deal with you in diplomacy and trade.
1950s UK, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands: We are on this NATO but we don't recognize your puny island as China
USA: What!?
Wow, poor Taiwan. Barely anyone recognizes them anymore. Just a few countries in the Pacific and Latin America.
@@ThoseAreNotExpressCoaches Oh yes, mm hm, the Vatican, too. But, eh, kinda don't like the Pope so much.
CENTRAL AMERICA = BASED
CIA coups sure don’t favour China
based
There are now only 13 UN Members recognizing the ROC(Republic of China, or Taiwan), Nicaragua severed relations with the ROC on the 15th of December.
12*
Here before the Chinese bot accounts
Anyone who disagrees
Bot:
I'm chinese bot
Taiwan is austronesian homeland not chinese, give taiwan back to austronesiann
Beep boop, obey me human
thanks for ROC, we learnwd about those tiny islands which can hardly been noticed on world map, greap for our Geography knowledge😍
That's how liberty and justice dies...
China regularly imprisons and executes its rich folk while in Taiwan they own everything
@@lakeblackBLM Ya and that’s an example of why the PRC is a horrid dictatorship
Most of the diplomatic changes shown in this video happened during the 1960s and 1970s, a period when the RoC was under the military dictatorship of Chiang-Kai Shek, who executed tens of thousands of dissidents extrajudicially and was also responsible for numberless atrocities on the mainland in the 1930s and 1940s. I assume you have no idea what you're talking about?
A country doing bad things doesn't mean they don't exist, otherwise the Earth would be a void.
@@KaiserMattTygore927
When did I say that the RoC didn't exist? I never said otherwise? Did I say the RoC was a "void"? Do quote me if I did. I was talking about OP's absurd claim of how "liberty and justice" died in the 1970s because a bunch of foreign bureaucrats refused to recognise a terrorist state?
How could several countries recognize both the ROC and PRC given the One-China Policy?
They just built different
Balls.
One China policy only applies in China, other countries can do as they want, recognize one, the other, both, or simply not recognize either and declare it terra nullius. That's the perk to being a sovereign power, you can do whatever you please and the sword alone is the arbitrator of truth.
Kinda funny how most of world governments did not recognized Taiwan, yet its citizens mostly know that Taiwan is a country
Most of governments know Taiwan, but recognize PRC as the real China because PRC won the civil war and have much larger economy, also if they don't recognize PRC there will be no trade within countries because PRC take it very seriously.
@@yoru120 Agree, love or hate it, PRC really control a good portion of world's economy
@Souven Tudu one China policy and the Taiwan consensus. Meaning countries cannot have official relations with both (only 1). Without this,countries may have been able to recognise both.
But Taiwan is actually not a country. The country is ROC, and Taiwan is a province. In fact, ROC has a little bit of Fujian Province
No. Most of ppl know Taiwan as a part of China. Special region of China. Same with Macau and Hongkong.
If u ask ppl "where is taiwan", the answer mostly will be like.. "somewhere in china" or something like that.
The decline of the western world
When the western world sells out to china like the capitalists they are and u blame the chinese lMAO
in democratic countries you don't talk about sense you talk about popularism
lets go back to monarch
It's nice to know that people love you for your money, and nothing else.
its crazy how a country can just be unrecognised, like one day it just doesnt exsist anymore
hmmm.. ask 50 states in US? are they feeling inferior not being recognized as countries?
The real KEY difference is these states never have the chance to have their own army, congress, president or so. If a state can have this and remains independent for 70 years, it would be just anti-america like taiwan to china.
Any government having power will try anyway to keep that power, that's it.
Democracy can't justify everything, Hitler is also a democraticly elected leader.
Taiwan is never an independent entity, and the land and properties on it belongs to the entire chinese people (not mentioning the entire China's reserve was brought to Taiwan on 1948); if it wants independence, they must seek agreement with all chinese people, not just that little group on the island
@@TroyMeng-mb6vx you said the south want slavery, then why isn't that respected?
After all, who is thr judge on what should be respected?
UK could’ve played some serious memes on the PRC over Hong Kong.
PRC: “Gib HK”
The UK: “The contract we signed was with Qing Dynasty so you know...”. Or “Ok PRC we will give China Hong Kong back” *Hong Kong was seceded to Taiwan* PRC: “Bruh”.
Great video! Keep up the amazing work 👏
To get a lot more out of the video, I suggest watching it 4 additional times, each time focusing on only one region of the world: Europe, Africa, Asia & Oceania, Americas.
As someone who favors recognition of the ROC (or both), I found myself going, "OOOhhh" a lot throughout the video as countries progressively turned red. I recall being disappointed a few years back when I found out that Panama (where most of my relatives live) switched. I didn't realize that my home country of the US held out longer than many of its "Western" peers, though it's really not too surprising considering that the most sacred American value is capitalism.
Don’t worry guys we will return to the mainland with international support! Right guys?
As much as I am an ROC supporter, I don't see that happening anytime soon, sadly.
@@angusyang5917 Yeah, unfortunately, if you just take a look at public perception in Taiwan, ROC is slowly losing support for continuing to be China. They still have a legitimate claim to the mainland, but until WW3 breaks out I’m pretty sure they’re stuck being mostly considered as Taiwan instead of ROC.
@@thesquishedelf1301 I mean if world war three breaks out they’ll be the only non-nuclear wasteland since mainland China will have been nuked to hell and back
@@pocketmarcy6990
Most of the world would be a nuclear wasteland my guy...especially most of Asia..
Taiwan is austronesian homeland not chinese, give taiwan back to austronesiann
“I wonder which one is the real China?”
The bigger one is better
@@lakeblackBLM Red Chinese Threat detected
@@lakeblackBLM HAHAHAHA
@@legion3307 only a threat to slavers and capitalists but their about the same
@@lakeblackBLM China is Statecapitalism and Pseudo Communist
Great work!
Never knew West Germany stayed based for that long. Learn something new every day.
Ever since 1992, the question became "Is Taiwan a country or not?"
@lati long Shall it be called "One China One Taiwan"?
@@clement28300yip Could be but that title is refused by the PRC. ‘Taiwan’ doesn’t exist but the ROC does. It’s a matter of how the ROC could change its consensus (via PRC/UN) and become two separate China’s but PRC insist on reunification.
I believe that Taiwan is a province from ROC, the other is Fujian.
Joke: recognizing the PRC
Broke: recognizing the ROC
Woke: recognizing both
Bespoke: recognizing n e i t h e r
ASCENDED: UPPER BHUTAN
the normal thing to do is recognizing the communist china
Republic china lost against communist china. So what?
It's same like Vietnam. Communists the winner of the civil war.
And the chad is not recognizing both XD
@@DBT1007 The civil war hasn’t actually ended, and China isn’t communist
The most depressing one yet
Taiwan is austronesian homeland not chinese, give taiwan back to austronesiann
@Long Live the Republic of China Austronesian is the indigenous people of taiwan, just like Uighurs in xinjiang and Tibetans in tibet
As a South African I'm proud of you Swaziland, everyone else sold out, but you stood your ground
As a Taiwanese, we are true friends, we and Israel used to develop nuclear weapons together.
Im from Germany and recognize Taiwan as the real china
Thank god for that. The PRC is committing genocide, so i seriously question the morality of anyone who legitimately thinks the PRC is better than Taiwan.
@@arminhillman7956 false. And PRC is modern China.
@@vtron9832 ROC still exists so their technically both modern China
@@shadowsupremeja7352 but it has lost the Mandate of Heaven and is only being kept afloat by foreign interference.
@@vtron9832 yeah kinda makes sense it’s sad
Switzerland sitting there recognizing prc from the start be like 👀
POV: you’re watching one of the saddest maps in history
POV: your watching the rise of the real China
@@lakeblackBLM no lol
@@charlesiv3984 i don't understand, why you people are so obsessed with chinese people/politic?
@@lakeblackBLM Hello Wumao, how many social credit score did you earn today from your 40+ comments?
@@YordanN_2 69
My friend is Taiwanese and he is very offended from this time lapse 😂😂😂
Bhutan be like: there is an elephant in the room. It is a hallucination. Maybe if i stand still and close my eyes it will go away.
Politics aside we love you Taiwan from India 🇮🇳❤🇹🇼
1:15
you just burned their factory few days back
poor loser in Tibet conflict
Hope China is free from communism. Communist party is literally committing Genocide against Uyghurs, Tibetians. Real China is 🇹🇼🇹🇼 🇹🇼. Free Tibet, Free Turkestan, Free Hong Kong.
@@inyourface9697 your IQ is the same as your number of subscribers
Bhutanese person : So, whats the country up north of us?
Other Bhutanese person : That's Republic of Tibet, my friend.
and what's above the republic of tibet? and also what happening in formosa island?
The Electoral Map looks very weird this year.
Recognizing neither is the ultimate chad move
As a Taiwanese(ROC), I'm glad to see all the discussions here. The thing is, common Taiwanese(those who weren't fled to Taiwan after the civil war) no longer seek to be recognized as the legitimate government of China at all. But the situation is a bit complicated than that. The legitimate territory was written in our constitution. And whenever people talk about fixing the constitution, or changing the name of the country to Taiwan, Chinese government will threaten to invade Taiwan on such moves. It's almost like China forces Taiwan to continue this fight with it, so that with even the slightest step wrong, it can send an army to take over Taiwan since it's still an unsolved war.
If they do take over Taiwan, then they can slowly dismantle Taiwan's society and economy until we are no longer a trouble to Bejing, just like what they are doing right now with Hong Kong and the Uyghurs. It's a bit sad to be living in this constant fright, but what can you do? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As an americam we shoyld reconoze you and guarantee your independence, but unfortionatly we are too economicly dependent on china. Wish we werent
You can stop being an USA puppet.
I am kazakh who lives beside two Great Powers want reveal one wisdom:
"Everybody can be right because they are convinced that they are right but it is too much for our reality, that why if you want be right you must fight for that and be prepared to pay cost consequently"
Ukranians and Palestinians know it well
Just like Israelians and Russians
*Recognizes PRC*
Cheap manufacturing unlocked!
It’d be interesting to see which countries unofficially recognise Taiwan.
Saddest map...
Have you seen the decline of the Irish language year by year?
big sad
Happiest map
@@isaac_aren ó mo Dhia tá é sin có brónach😢😢😢😢
@@shambosaha9727 how
Bhutan: Hmm, I love the Tibetan and Chinese ocean to my north. If only there were a country with thousands of years of history, two governments, and billions of people here. Shame there isn't