@@Marcosomos I love the dynamic of a meta game shift once every few years it’s what separates modern from pioneer, and it allows us more cool options to build decks around
@@drbeetheemighty if the players stop buying MH sets they will stop making them. Unfortunately wotc print broken cards in MH sets so to stay competitive players have to invest in the cards.
i like alot of the cards from modern horizon sets sadly there are usually around 10 cards or so that are just too much for the format and warp the format around them, if they couldve not put these in to begin with they would be wonderful sets
I pretty much only play casual formats (EDH & Limited) but have enjoyed listening to your videos as a way to learn more about other formats. Your passion for modern and pauper is a lot of fun. Thank you!
So much of WotC's wording in the article feels as though they're mocking people like me who yearn for the days of old modern. Don't get me wrong, I'm unbelievably happy to see Twin return after all these years, but it genuinely feels like they're doing this as an act of desperation. I'll admit I haven't kept up with the scene in a while now, but it just does not seem like they wanted to make these unbans. The part that stands out the most to me is definitely "Did we make Modern a better place? Can we handle a wave of nostalgic and infamous cards to reenter Modern? Was there something we released that's making Modern less fun? Only time will tell, so let's get into it!" It just comes across as incredibly facetious and reads like the SpongeBob chicken meme. Maybe I'm just burnt on the design choices and decisions they've been making that have driven away me and my local community the past few years and taking what is genuinely light-hearted banter as a slight is a byproduct of that, but I digress. I agree that I can't see Twin in this new age being the tier 1 menace of yesterday, but I can definitely see it putting up enough results to at least have a presence if nothing else due to sheer popularity and love for the deck. I'd love to be wrong and see a world where it's a top performer though. Also excited to see what Looting brings back into the limelight.
What makes me nervous about Splinter Twin coming back into the format is that it gains access to a few new card that it didn't have in the past, namely Vexing Bauble and Teferi, Time Raveler. All those "free" ways to shut down Twin mean nothing when you can never cast your answer. It'll be interesting to see what counter plays will arise against twin but twin looks positioned really well right now.
We could have a hogack Situation where they first ban a card to weaken the deck (Raptor and bridge respectively) but eventually they have to ban the main card (Hogack / guide)
It's only a part of what made the deck strong, not the main reason. Guide into Ocelot Pride is crazy AF. Arena of Glory into Phlage is crazy. Ajani sac token to Goblin Bombardment is crazy.
Ok so they unbanned green sun a staple in legacy elves, so we can now tutor for craterhoof in modern elves. It’s a like they want modern elves to be like legacy elves as an all in combo deck.
i have an argument for Phlage being better than Uro: Uro isn't play in Timeless while Phlage does. i admit it's not a strong argument because Timeless is a weird format where Oko is unplayable, combo decks can win on turn 1 with dark ritual and somehow Boros Energy is still the most played deck
All the new possibilities: Hollow One Phoeni Reanimator Lantern Control Dredge Affinity This is single handedly the best MTG news I've heard in years. No hyperbole. I actually feel excited to play Modern again!!
I think it's also worth noting that Energy is probably still very good. I doubt you can justify running 4 Surgicals main, with 2 Extirpate, 4 Lantern, and 3 Ashioks in the sideboard, that's kind of insane ngl
Orcish Bowmasters is a perfectly fair magic card and nothing will change my mind. I am glad it is in the format because it is reasonable on its own and helps counter certain strategies from going bananas. I said it before ill say it again: if you cant deal with a 1/1, theres something wrong with your deck building
Unironically, haven't played or bought MTG since they banned twin in modern. Time to dust off the old 60 card and see where the new improvements are to be made. Super excited.
I’m only concerned about looting. Graveyard strategies responses are not common answers in the main outside of Black/Green colors. In fact, these two colors are much better at dealing with the grave than the other three by far.
@@UrAvgBasshead i did say no one reasonable, you saw that word right. It is perfectly fine in edh. The point of edh is playing fun broken cards that is any eternal format.
According to Comander people, they should ban the one ring because "it goes in all decks" lmao, Edh's see a strong card and they already want to ban it.
@ivonneiglesias2596 no one i watch that makes content or the people i know all over the country are saying ban the card, i am sure the same circles of cry babies that want everything banned are saying ban it, but those people want to ban anything and everything so wbo cares about their tired opinions.
MOX OPAL WAS BANNED FOR NO REASON. Thats what it being unbanned says to me. I was always against mox opal going anyways, all my favorite decks are artifact decks. Honestly if MO was banned, primeval titan shouldve went too. 😂
Wotc didn't actually fix what got Opal and Looting banned. I'm willing to be that at least one, if not both, will get banned, again, in the future. And you were doing so well until the “ban endurance” take. Endurance is one of the reasons why looting got unbanned. It checks looting style decks, specifically. Mill just needs to hold the L on this one.
Reasons Phlage is AT LEAST as good as Uro but probably better: 1/ Uro dies to Phlage off of Arena 2/ They both gain 3, but Phlage is also a bolt, a card played in 25% of decks. And only one deck plays Explore, Amulet Titan, probably the only deck that actively wants Uro 3/ Maybe with GSZ, Uro would be too good in Amulet, but red decks that play Phlage are also getting Faithless Looting, a card that is likely to see more play. 4/ Pitching to Solitude is generally better than pitching to Endurance. I know Uro was big and scary like 3 years ago, but I don't think it ever saw play rates like Phlage does now
@@DerpHerper Phlage is defining decks now, in decks that are arguably more dominant than Uro was. You realize that the shell that was the most dominant Uro deck effectively doesn't exist anymore, right? No more Omnath, Mystic Sanctuary, no Field of the Dead, no Yorion. You can just admit you haven't actually thought about the comparison or how the format has changed
@@ThatMillGuyShaf please don’t take that as like a definitive statement. These are just my like very casual thoughts. I would think that the modern game is just too fast for me now. But maybe I’m very wrong.
Look forward to solitude and force of negation wrecking the twins player that come back also the affinity players getting meltdown and wrath the sky's they will c9me back for a league and quit again😢
Easy win for EVERYONE in the modern scene would be to revert to the old ways it was done. Rename Modern Horizons to Commander Horizons or something like that, make every card printed in Modern Masters, Lord of the Rings, and Assassin's Creed not legal in Modern, and start selling Modern Masters again with new funky arts and reprints of the most expensive and desired cards in the format. WoTC sells double product, the Modern players come out of the woodwork and fill LGS's again, and the format is saved.
What the format needs is no more horizons sets
Will they do it.... probably not.😢
@@Marcosomos I love the dynamic of a meta game shift once every few years it’s what separates modern from pioneer, and it allows us more cool options to build decks around
We need to go back to Modern Masters. We don't need direct to modern cards. Reprint old cards so they can get some love
@@drbeetheemighty if the players stop buying MH sets they will stop making them.
Unfortunately wotc print broken cards in MH sets so to stay competitive players have to invest in the cards.
i like alot of the cards from modern horizon sets sadly there are usually around 10 cards or so that are just too much for the format and warp the format around them, if they couldve not put these in to begin with they would be wonderful sets
Hollow One my beloved
bruh i was in Elementary school when twin was banned. I can almost vote now
See y’all in 3 months when they ban another energy card 😂
It’s not even in the update meta.
Yup. This will do next to nothing.
Inb4 Splinter Twin catches a ban due to Modern Horizons 4
I pretty much only play casual formats (EDH & Limited) but have enjoyed listening to your videos as a way to learn more about other formats. Your passion for modern and pauper is a lot of fun. Thank you!
So much of WotC's wording in the article feels as though they're mocking people like me who yearn for the days of old modern. Don't get me wrong, I'm unbelievably happy to see Twin return after all these years, but it genuinely feels like they're doing this as an act of desperation. I'll admit I haven't kept up with the scene in a while now, but it just does not seem like they wanted to make these unbans.
The part that stands out the most to me is definitely "Did we make Modern a better place? Can we handle a wave of nostalgic and infamous cards to reenter Modern? Was there something we released that's making Modern less fun? Only time will tell, so let's get into it!" It just comes across as incredibly facetious and reads like the SpongeBob chicken meme. Maybe I'm just burnt on the design choices and decisions they've been making that have driven away me and my local community the past few years and taking what is genuinely light-hearted banter as a slight is a byproduct of that, but I digress.
I agree that I can't see Twin in this new age being the tier 1 menace of yesterday, but I can definitely see it putting up enough results to at least have a presence if nothing else due to sheer popularity and love for the deck. I'd love to be wrong and see a world where it's a top performer though. Also excited to see what Looting brings back into the limelight.
mox opal is double what the ring was, so deck prices have gone up haha.
It was slumbering in my binder, Lantern control and Modern Cheeri0s rejoice!!!
Twin is fine. Opal is iffy. But I applaud the bravery in these unbans!!
Twins old adversary Lantern control is coming back, Opal is just what it needed!
Wizards went at last to the volcano with the One Ring.
What makes me nervous about Splinter Twin coming back into the format is that it gains access to a few new card that it didn't have in the past, namely Vexing Bauble and Teferi, Time Raveler. All those "free" ways to shut down Twin mean nothing when you can never cast your answer. It'll be interesting to see what counter plays will arise against twin but twin looks positioned really well right now.
I bought a set of Twins around 4 years ago.
Finally Dobby is free. ❤️
Splinter Sisters we are so BACK.
Who cares about Splinter Twin. Mox Opal is back on the menu and the One Ring has been casted into the fire.
I expected one more hit to Energy in Modern tbh, Ajani, Goblin Bombardment, Guide of Souls, Ocelot Pride, Static Prison
Guide should have taken the hit imo
We could have a hogack Situation where they first ban a card to weaken the deck (Raptor and bridge respectively) but eventually they have to ban the main card (Hogack / guide)
Amped raptor giving broken 241’s is what made this deck so strong. This is a metal bat to both knees of Boros trust
@@ryanhebertson7457 yup, the Raptor ban does next to nothing.
It's only a part of what made the deck strong, not the main reason. Guide into Ocelot Pride is crazy AF. Arena of Glory into Phlage is crazy. Ajani sac token to Goblin Bombardment is crazy.
Ok so they unbanned green sun a staple in legacy elves, so we can now tutor for craterhoof in modern elves. It’s a like they want modern elves to be like legacy elves as an all in combo deck.
i have an argument for Phlage being better than Uro: Uro isn't play in Timeless while Phlage does.
i admit it's not a strong argument because Timeless is a weird format where Oko is unplayable, combo decks can win on turn 1 with dark ritual and somehow Boros Energy is still the most played deck
All the new possibilities:
Hollow One
Phoeni
Reanimator
Lantern Control
Dredge
Affinity
This is single handedly the best MTG news I've heard in years. No hyperbole.
I actually feel excited to play Modern again!!
I think it's also worth noting that Energy is probably still very good. I doubt you can justify running 4 Surgicals main, with 2 Extirpate, 4 Lantern, and 3 Ashioks in the sideboard, that's kind of insane ngl
Orcish Bowmasters is a perfectly fair magic card and nothing will change my mind. I am glad it is in the format because it is reasonable on its own and helps counter certain strategies from going bananas. I said it before ill say it again: if you cant deal with a 1/1, theres something wrong with your deck building
as a mill player myself, im excited to see more ways to turn on my archive traps being unbanned
"Modern is saved" will age like milk. So lost is your own sauce.
Faithless Looting, my beloved. Back at last.
Unironically, haven't played or bought MTG since they banned twin in modern. Time to dust off the old 60 card and see where the new improvements are to be made. Super excited.
I’m only concerned about looting. Graveyard strategies responses are not common answers in the main outside of Black/Green colors. In fact, these two colors are much better at dealing with the grave than the other three by far.
Been waiting for this to come out
Phoenix is back on the menu boys!
Green sun zenith is going I be huge for amulet titan which is like the 3rd best deck pre ban
With Twin unbanned, it might be time to put Batwing Brume into my Esper Control SB again 🙂 .. and maybe also Mill if we splash for white?
Yooooooo Phoenix is back baby!!!
Rakdos charm is gold now
The one ring is fine in edh, no one reasonable is crying about it
There are a lot us who are pissed about it. Just more ways Wtc screwed us over
@@UrAvgBasshead i did say no one reasonable, you saw that word right. It is perfectly fine in edh. The point of edh is playing fun broken cards that is any eternal format.
According to Comander people, they should ban the one ring because "it goes in all decks" lmao, Edh's see a strong card and they already want to ban it.
@ivonneiglesias2596 no one i watch that makes content or the people i know all over the country are saying ban the card, i am sure the same circles of cry babies that want everything banned are saying ban it, but those people want to ban anything and everything so wbo cares about their tired opinions.
Because you can’t run multiple copies of it, and eventually, the burden counters will kill you unless you have a way to circumvent the damage
It feels like I woke up after election night all over again
They should unban ragavan in legacy
MOX OPAL WAS BANNED FOR NO REASON. Thats what it being unbanned says to me. I was always against mox opal going anyways, all my favorite decks are artifact decks.
Honestly if MO was banned, primeval titan shouldve went too. 😂
What decks were you playing? I too am eager to play with Mox Opal again too!!!
Bow master reprint in a normal set would be great
Wotc didn't actually fix what got Opal and Looting banned. I'm willing to be that at least one, if not both, will get banned, again, in the future.
And you were doing so well until the “ban endurance” take. Endurance is one of the reasons why looting got unbanned. It checks looting style decks, specifically. Mill just needs to hold the L on this one.
Reasons Phlage is AT LEAST as good as Uro but probably better:
1/ Uro dies to Phlage off of Arena
2/ They both gain 3, but Phlage is also a bolt, a card played in 25% of decks. And only one deck plays Explore, Amulet Titan, probably the only deck that actively wants Uro
3/ Maybe with GSZ, Uro would be too good in Amulet, but red decks that play Phlage are also getting Faithless Looting, a card that is likely to see more play.
4/ Pitching to Solitude is generally better than pitching to Endurance.
I know Uro was big and scary like 3 years ago, but I don't think it ever saw play rates like Phlage does now
Decks would be born if uro was allowed. There a reason he sees so much play in legacy
@thatmtgnerd Uro isn't even in the top 50 most played creatures in Legacy, what are you talking about?
Look guys I know Uro was literally defining decks in the past, but people play Phlage. So like, Phlage is better.
@@DerpHerper Phlage is defining decks now, in decks that are arguably more dominant than Uro was. You realize that the shell that was the most dominant Uro deck effectively doesn't exist anymore, right? No more Omnath, Mystic Sanctuary, no Field of the Dead, no Yorion. You can just admit you haven't actually thought about the comparison or how the format has changed
Looting is a colossal mistake. It will absolutely need to be rebanned. Energy is still far and away the best deck, Raptor alone does nothing.
I see versions with winota, these weeks of testing will be hilarious
I'm playing twin
I wish I could play twin but not ATM. But I'm super hyped to see the deck be played
Unban Tibalts Trickery in Explorer. They keep pretending this discrepancy between Pioneer and Explorer doesn’t exist.
I have my mox opal for edh and legacy
I think bowmasters and endurance is fine.
I don't think looting is fine tho
Mill is just dead in modern now right?
How???
@@ThatMillGuyShaf please don’t take that as like a definitive statement. These are just my like very casual thoughts. I would think that the modern game is just too fast for me now. But maybe I’m very wrong.
Twin is going to be bad lol
Pioneer need more bans
Look forward to solitude and force of negation wrecking the twins player that come back also the affinity players getting meltdown and wrath the sky's they will c9me back for a league and quit again😢
Easy win for EVERYONE in the modern scene would be to revert to the old ways it was done. Rename Modern Horizons to Commander Horizons or something like that, make every card printed in Modern Masters, Lord of the Rings, and Assassin's Creed not legal in Modern, and start selling Modern Masters again with new funky arts and reprints of the most expensive and desired cards in the format. WoTC sells double product, the Modern players come out of the woodwork and fill LGS's again, and the format is saved.
Changes look good. People are already speculating that opal got unbanned so it can be a chase reprint in 2025.
The unbans actually look fake, like some hair brained suggestion by some Modern Boomer, very interesting stuff
No modern is still a bad format
You will still be crying about shit
Nice, thank you for commenting for the algorithm
Literally facts bro. It’s a never ending cycle.
CAWARDS SHOULD HAVE UNBANNED HOGAAK #BringBackTheGaak