Well,both countries signed a 'no agresion agrement" if Germany had not invaded Russia, they,the russian had not done anything, in other words...dont care what you do,as long as you dont do anything against me" that simple! 🤨
@@GermanRLopez you forget one little detail. They also agreed to split up Poland between the two of them. Already then Russia was just as evil as Nazi Germany.
He forget to say that USSR started the second world war alongside Germany by attacking and occyping half of Poland .whole Latvia,Lituania,Estonia ,parts of Finland(because they resisted) and parts of Romania ( Bukovina and what today is called Moldova) after 1939.
It's a really good question. Part of the answer may well lie with Russia's nuclear status and/or the professed idea at the time of the collapse to stabilize / convert / befriend Russia asap.
@@sonofdsunActually Soviet Union managed to negotiate as many as 3 seats with Belarus and Ukraine having separate seats at the UN even though they were all part of the same country at the time…That was Stalin’s sneaky way to gain more influence
because America has never invaded a foreign country without the consent of 198 countries of the world :) therefore it is not "America", but the decision and consent of the whole world and America, unlike Russia, has never attacked with the aim of total destruction and genocide and seizure of territory. while RUSSIA has waged 6 wars since 1994, 4 of which were genocidal :) that is, 6 wars in the last 30 years..@@ThatOneInTenThousand
Russians have never in their national character progressed politically & socially beyond Ivan the Terrible. Stubborn refusal toward change has been a Russian trait since at least Peter the Great's era.
Russia suffered because of Stalin not because of being heroes.
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So many modern SS followers are really itchy that Russia defeat Na* is, and chose to Iie by omission and rewrite history. In fact, Munich agreement in 1938 is the culprit of everything. Poland along with western countries took parts of CzekosIovakia and gave it to Germany.
It is not as simple as that. Hitler invaded USSR, and they had every right to defend themselves and to attack Germany to end the war. But Stalin had just as little respect for his own soldiers and civilians as Putin. The soldiers are just tools to spend in meat waves like in WW1 and WW2. Behind them is the same line of their own people shooting anyone who returns.
Ukraine suffered more than Russia during WW2. Check out the history. Germany swept south East and over ran Ukraine, Moscow was USSR priority, the other lands were expendable, to buy time. 3 years later, the USSR swept back. Germany destroyed as much as they could when retreating. USSR troops flattened what was left while chasing them back to Berlin.
Fun fact: Ukraine (and Belarus and the USSR) joined the UN on 24 October 1945, the day the UN officially came into existence. The Russian Federation only became member on 24 December 1991, or 46 years and 2 months later.
@@r.j.m4245 is that the best you could come up with, Einstein? The sum of all your intellectual acuteness? Has the US invaded a free and indipendent, internationally recognized Hawaii, killed, r@pd its people and put them in mass graves? Ask yourself that before posting something so st00pid
He should have started the history lesson in 1939 when Stalin & Hitler were allies. Puts s different perspective on the whole thing, and not a good one for russia. Exposes their history of foul deeds just a bit more.
Soviets signed a non aggression pact with Hitler the UK royal family were doing Nazi salutes and let's not forget the Dutch . While you at it don't forget to mention where the Nazi scientists ended up definitely not in the Soviet union
He forget to say that USSR started the second world war alongside Germany by attacking and occyping half of Poland .whole Latvia,Lituania,Estonia ,parts of Finland(because they resisted) and parts of Romania ( Bukovina and what today is called Moldova) after 1939. After 1944 USSR occupied and enslaved whole Poland ,Latvia,Lituania,Estonia,Czechoslovakia,Hungary,Romania and parts of Germany. Deported Ukrainians,Latvians,Estonians,Lituanians, all Chechens, all Crimean Tatatrs,Kalmikian ,Kabardinians ,Greeks,Bulgarians(minorites who lived in Ukraine and in Crimea to open more room for Russian colonists) and etc. using the lend lease . Second world war brought to Eastern and Central Europeans the worst occupation of USSR which went for 45 years..Tens of millions of lifes of genefations destroied. They started with terrors,executions and arrests which German Nazis looked like little children in comparision.... The most casualties of the war were not Russians but Ukrainians and Belarrussians ...who were all occuped by German forces and longer..2 000 000 Rusians colaborated with German army any 6th in Wermacht in Eastern Front was Russian.The biggest atrocities were commited by Russian auxilaries of the Germans,Partizans sent from Moscow and latter by Red army...USA and UK aided one monster to help destroy another monster. That does not make Stalin and Russians better than Hitler and Nazi Germans then...But ofcourse you shy to admit the whole truth..only half of it is enough for you..because otherwise maybe you are accompice to Stalin??
@chrissavage5966 Stalin and Hitler didn't trust one another. they knew very well that one day they will go to war . Germany was buying time to attack British and occupy North Africa on other hand Stalin was buying time to make Red Army stronger. extra time worked for Stalin but led to Germany defeat at Stalingrad and aventuly lost the war .
@@thusomaepa1852 Nor the Nazi rocket scientists in the US. We can play ‘whatabout’ all day long, every nation has done heinous shit in their past, some not so distant, but russia…well, they just keep on getting worse.
Most probably she's just an ordinary Russian woman, with an interest in being a journalist. Unfortunately she is living in Russia, most probably she is brainwashed and she's forced to keep on bringing messages the way her boss (Putin, Krermlin) sees fit.
And my friends in Ukraine kept telling me Putin wouldn't invade because he said he wouldn't. Poor bastards. They really thought the Russians didn't want to hurt them and that Putin was a man of his word. They're so much more cynical (and enlightened) now.
@@haroldcampbell3337 Your friends were proven right. The people I knew definitely weren’t a minority viewpoint though. But… “all along”. Hmm… That means what exactly? They knew in early February? In January? Maybe in December? In 2018? 2014? They predicted the little green men before they actually showed? Maybe they were posting online Thanksgiving 2013 when the protests first started that Putin would invade if Yanukovych was thwarted? Or maybe they predicted when Yanukovych was first elected? Or they just saw the troops massing and said “I bet he’s gonna invade.” Unless they actually made some concrete preparations, then they didn’t really know. The public experts were saying it probably wouldn’t happen.
Russia has no legal right to be on the UN. They wee never members of the UN. Russia left the USSR first. The other 14 states that made up the USSR then voted to disband the USSR, the only country that didn't vote to disband it was Armenia. Russia had no seat and should be barred, it's not even a legal vote. Just the same as when Yugoslavia dissolved, it could not pass on its seat to the other nations that came out of the old Yugoslavia.
Russian reporter??? She is clearly NOT A REPORTER! You can see and hear it in the way the question is asked and in the way the THOUGHT contained in the question is ARTICULATED. This young lady is a perfectly trained AGENT OF THE KREMLIN PROPAGANDA APPARATUS!!! This is a fundamental difference: she does not represent Russian public opinion, she strictly follows orders coming from the Kremlin! John Kirby, on the other hand, gave an excellent answer without allowing himself to be provoked into any discussion. An answer in which he expressed respect for the contribution of Soviet Russia to the defeat of Hitler, but at the same time indicating that today's Russia and its leader will plays the same role as Germany and Hitler eighty years ago. Bravo!!!
She's probably a Russian reporter. She might be something else, but so many of them were raised on anti-West hatred. She's asking a question Russians often ask. Back home, they ask it and tell themselves that the question brilliantly exposes the hypocrisy of the west. At the White House, she asked the question and got the real answer. The problem is that no reporters from Russia are *really* reporters. It's not like she's going to be allowed to go home and print the answer she got.
@@spotty67 No, it is NOT FAIR! Donald Trump's presidential term lasted from January 20, 2017 to January 20, 2021. The FIRST Kremlin aggression against Ukraine took place in 2014, the second on February 24, 2022. Russia's aggression against Ukraine was enabled by the so-called "reset" of President Obama, who politically was and still is not only a leftist but also an idiot. And the new war broke out during the presidency of Joe Biden, considered a continuator of Obama's policies. Not without reason! More than a year after taking the presidency! And so I wonder who you are? A microcephalic who doesn't remember anything, or a conscious, cynical liar? I fhink there is no third way, so who are you, spotty?
@TerryMcMaster-jw8zr Ask the states "liberated" by Russia, most of them are today the most devoted NATO members because they fear Russia will "liberate" them again as they are liberating Ukraine... Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland etc.
Russia lives in an imaginary past. Russia has never even been close to being a free country. Russians have no concept of Freedom or Democracy. They have never had any say in their future, except by bleeding.
they were 'users' , which RIGHT NOW they DON'T REMEBER EVEN WHEN AMERICA WAS SENDING THEY FOOD & MONEY, when SSSR collapsed n call America pindosiya, n want ot "nuke Yellow stone' (on state tv )
The reporter should ask Poland about the Soviet Union’s actions in WW2. Then take a look about Russia’s actions now. If Ukraine was marginalizing Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine, invasion and annexation is never the solution more so as Ukraine is not and never was an existential threat to Russia.
@-108- That is one of putin's reasons for invading Ukraine. He can't keep track of them all because he just pulls them out of his ass when they change his little man diaper!
let's not forget though that the USSR and Germany actually invaded Poland together. Russia switched sides, so they never have been a reliable friend of any allies that they have ever had
What kept the Soviets in WW2 and stopped their collapse were the ' Atlantic Convoys ' . Russia seem to think she won the war more or less on their own . Well done Sir.
And the Bombing campaign that Stalin asked for above the city's of Germany that kept thousand of men and guns in and around Targets in Germany and away from the Eastern front.
Don't forget the Lend-Lease Act where FDR gave the Soviets equipment and supplies. This included the P-39 Airacobra which the U.S. pilots didn't particularly like, but the Russian pilots loved them and used them with great success.
Kirby stated Russia suffered greatly during WWII. News flash: Ukraine suffered more. They also suffered before WWII and after. And don’t get me started on the Tartars.
John Kirby is semi-correct about the USSR and WWII history. The USSR was not an ally of the Allied Forces for the first 2 years of WWII. On August 23, 1939 Stalin/the USSR signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler/Germany, providing support and joint forces to Hitler. The USSR invaded Poland, Finland, Romania and the Baltic states. It was not until Hitler launched Operation Barbarosa and suprisingly turned coat and invaded Russia on June 22, 1941, that Stalin ran to the Allied Forces for life saving assistance, asking for money, food to keep the Russians from starving, medication, and equipment to replenish their troops in their effort to fight off and defeat Hitler/Germany who had betrayed them. Let's not give Russia more credit than they are owed, they were in the war for their own benefit and did not become our ally until they were about to lose everything to Germany. Once the war was over, the USSR went on it's own way ... enter the Cold War.
The lend lease program accounted for a total of 5% of the Soviet war effort The Soviet union also provided goods and materials to the USA (which is often overlooked) The majority of the lend lease aid arrived after 1943 when the Germans had really already lost the war. The Red army bore 90% of the German war effort, and caused around 86% of all German military casualties
do you know that soviet generals were sending , just like now, ppl in meat attack back than too??? W/0 any weapon, how they were grabbing Ukrainians , boys too, n sent them to 'storm' Dniper,... barehanded,,,
@@LoveBagpipesgo educate yourself and learn about holodomor and how much Ukrainians really suffered. Entire Ukraine was a battle ground for years during ww2. They suffered not only nazis but also from soviets.
On one hand - it's satisfying to see how Mr. Kirby there and the folks in this comment section are fairly adept at recognizing ruzziаn bots and refusing to partake in their bs... On the other hand - it's depressing to realize, that most of these same people are more than happy to swallow the exact same kind of drivеl (hook, line and sinker) from hаmаs (aka Pаlеstinе "ministrу of hеаlthсаre")... Some history sadly isn't taught quite as extensively as the major plot of WW2.
John Kirby completely forgot to say that Slavery Union survived because US and UK sent thousands of weapons (planes, tanks, trucks, Jeeps, etc) on the Mend Lease agreement !
@@Smarcue2025 I'm sorry you were born in a place where lies, apathy, and cruelty rule everything. I'm also sorry that you're foolish and naive enough to believe it all.
@@AWMJoeyjoejoemy grandfather was also on the North Sea convoys...reality though is that lend lease accounted for 5% of their total war effort, and primarily came after 1943 (when the Germans had really already lost the war)...the USSR also supplied both the USA and Britain with materials too 🤷 The Red army took on 90% of the total German war effort and inflicted 86% of all German military casualties...we ought not forget that either
Finland never forgot the actions of the USSR during WW2. That's why when the western countries had demilitarised strategy during the 90s and 00s, the Finns kept their military forces on the same level. Because they knew their neighbour and frankly did not trust them ... and here we are today.
Not to forget, that Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union and had it's part in the fight against Nazi Germany. We in the west tend to call all of them 'russians'. Meanwhile, we should have learned to differentiate .
Exactly! Ukraine and not Russia (for the most part) was under German occupation for a few years during WW2. The holocaust was also taking place mostly in Ukraine which had a much larger Jewish population than Russia.
I remember I saw photos from Krushchev's visit to USA in the 1950s. Some showed Americans protesting in demonstration against him. The protesters' sign said phrases like "Free Ukraine" and "Stop occupation of Ukraine." When we during the Cold War perceived Ukraine as some part of russia, oh my how wrong we were. They never were. They were always occupied, for hundreds of years, until 1991. Today Ukraine is struggling for their right to freedom and self-determination.
"Especially the Russian people suffered deeply" - even tho Ukraine and Belarus lost millions in population, Belarus loosing 25% of it's population - 6.4M Ukrainians were starved alone in 1932-33 and another 1 Million shot in 1937 - RSFSR enlarged itself at expense of Georgia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Finland, Belarus, Latvia and Estonia on territories that Narkom couldn't even justify, because those territories were populated by well, Kazakhs, Ukrainians, Fins, Belarusans, Latvians, Estonians and Kists.
Considering Russia collaborated with nazi Germany to start WW2, we might just as well list the numbers of German dead too, if we are to judge who was a victim and who an aggressor solely by numbers of dead
Yes, even though Ukraine and Belarus suffered all of that, Russia DID suffer greatly under the Nazi occupation. The subject was Russia, not Belarus or Ukraine.
@tayler2396: He said "specifically", not "especially", when he was talking about the suffering during WW2. She's from Russia, she was asking about Russia, the topic was Russia, and he kept it about Russia. The way he said it, though, made it sound like he was saying "especially" Russia suffered - because he's a very well practiced word smith. He chose his words to appeal to "the Russian side", and to "the non-Russian side". Speaking specifically about the Russians suffering during WW2, they DID suffer greatly, regardless of whether or not Ukraine, or Belarus suffered more. I see your point, though.
What facts? That Russia played a major role in defeating Nazi Germany? Who ever disputed this? If anything in today’s Russia they completely dismiss and ignore any role in the victory played by its former allies: the US and the UK. So which facts was she stating??
100%!!! Babii Yar only had been a massive grave for Jewish. there was another concentration camp , near Kiev.... ruZZli WORSE than nazi were back than. they didn't raped BABIES ON CAMERA!!!
Bullshit! The Ukrainians absolutely did suffer under the Nazis, and so did the Russians! Nazi Germany occupied a larger area of Russia than Ukraine. Your statement went WAY too far!
They suffered as soldiers - stupid leader were sending millions for certain death, cause they were too stupid to come up with better ideas. Just like in Ukraine today - Russians do not give a damn about their own people.
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How so? Out of 27 million, 19 million were Russian victims. Ever heard of Stalingrad battle, Kursk battle? They were the ones that won the war. Russians. Where do you learn history, on KyivPost?
These are the Soviet official figures for deaths in WWII as % of 1940 population Byelorussian SSR: 25.3% Ukrainian SSR: 16.3% Latvian SSR: 13.7% Armenian SSR: 13.6% Lithuanian SSR: 12.7% Russian SFSR: 12.7% As you can see, "the Russian people suffered measurably less in WWII than Ukrainians and Belarusians."
USSR citizens, not only Russians - Kazachs, Armenians, Georgians and many other nations. Russia won the war - if not Russia UK and US would not be able to do it. Out of 19 millions of casualties on USSR side - how many were killed when USSR invaded Finland? How many died just because human life meant nothing to Russian leaders? There are many cemeteries of Russian soldiers killed in 1945 when fighting Stalin's ex ally: Hitler. I alway pay my respect and I am really sorry for poor boys killed in stupid war fighting in foreign country - Poland. I am even more sorry for grandmother's cousin, who survived Nazis, 5 years of war just to be taped almost to death by barbarians of Red Army.
@@Old-Bald-and-Grumpy You are going off on a variety of tangents. The fact remains that "the Russian people suffered measurably less in WWII than Ukrainians and Belarusians."
Correction, russia was never the good guy. They were on Germany’s side in 1939 and divided Poland between them and Germany when they both invaded Poland. They didn’t voluntarily fought Germany, Germany invaded them.
There is one Country, that still suffers - it has suffered many times: Ukraine. It has suffered Stalin-Soviet Union, It has Suffered from the invasion of the Hazis, then, again, Stalin and the rest of the soviet union, now 2022 to 2024 again, the Nazis of Russia.
The Soviet Union was allied to Hitler, since August 1939. They started the war together, the Nazis and Stalin invaded Poland on September 1939. They even held a JOINT military parade in Warszaw to celebrate the victory! Then, Moscow immediately proceeded to invade Finland, and later the three Baltic countries, and then tried to take Romania from Bessarabia (Moldavia). Moscow later fought the Nazis only because it was invaded by them! Not only this, but the casualties in WW2 were not "Russians" but Soviets: Moscow used its colonies to protect itself. 5 to 7 million Ukrainians died fighting the Germans, a much higher percentage of the population compared to the Russians, and many other "Soviet" casualties of the war were not Russians but Turkic people, Mongols, Tatars, from Bashkortostan, Tatarstan, Siberia, Buriatia, etc, all populations previously enslaved by Moscow and forced to fight all the wars for Moscow. The Russian Empire should have been dissolved in the same way as the German State, but Europe was too weak and "civilized", and the USA was too dumb to oppose the foxes in Moscow.
They try not to focus on this side of their history in Russia. I was born and grew up in Soviet Union and I can testify that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was a top secret up until late 80s when Gorbachev came to power. Until then we were all taught the same lie that Nazi Germany all of a sudden decided to invade USSR in June of 1941. The Finland campaign was never mentioned either.
@@SailToTheMoon6719 "They try not to focus on this side of their history" The point is that the whole history of Muscovia is one of aggression, invasion of neighbouring countries, elimination of the local population, and eradication of its history and language that got replaced by Russian ones, and exploitation of the invaded population to invade the next one. _“Russia can only be remembered as the owner of territories taken from other nations, from other peoples and which they will have to give back on the day of reckoning.”_ Friedrich Engels, 1820-1895. German philosopher
The Soviet Union was Germany's ally at the outbreak of WW2, as stipulated in the secret Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. As for the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941: Most of the fighting occurred in modern day Ukraine and Belarus.
To add, USSR wasn't Russia but it was a union of number of countries. Ukraine and Belarus suffered mostly from the Nazi invasion in terms of occupaied land abd civilian casualties but modern Russia wouldn't recognise that. In fact modern Russia today has more in common with Nazis Germany than with USSR.
@@dmitryletov8138 Today's Russia is a fascist state that do not recognize the existence of Ukraine or Ukrainian identity. In none of the numerous official speeches Russian fuhrer Putin admitted Ukrainian efforts and suffering in defeating Nazis. USSR started WW2 in alliance with Nazi Germany by attacking Poland as result of it millions of people died, countries were destroyed and depopulated but russian people still think they suffered the most and victory over Nazi Germany is their own single handed effort.
Soviet Union included much more than Russia : Ukraine, Baltic states, and many more former countries and states outside the current internationally recognized borders of Russia. So don’t reduce SU to today’s Russian dictatorship.
Yes, plus Polish army re-created by deceived Polish prisoners. I mean 1. The Soviet Union attacked Poland in 1939 2. arrested Polish soldiers and deported to Siberia 3. when attacked by Nazi Germany in 1941 the SU said to the Poles: "now we need your help to fight Germans so let's be allies this time, and after the war you will have independent Poland." 4. Then the SU virtually occupied Poland for a few decades until the Solidarity movement defeated communism in Poland and consequently in Europe.
First, Putin do not act alone, without approval of the government. In fact, he is very moderate, compared to the rest of them. Secondly, more than 80pc of world community is on his side. In this world only US acts alone, along with the states pressed into working against their own best interests. Words, words, words...
That's the biggest load of utter nonsense, fake news, propaganda and lies I've ever read. Are you for real or are you mentally deficient? Even the the Democrats don't lie that much!
Soviet Union was waiting when Nazis were destroying Warsaw but we should have forgiven each other That’s history they were also attacked by Nazis.Vladimir is clearly feeding his pathetic ego
Correction, in 1939 Russia entered the WWII on German's side. Things changed after Germany attacked Russia in 1941
true !!!
People tend to forget that, of they even knew in the first place.
And ‘the west’ provided lend lease act.
Well,both countries signed a 'no agresion agrement" if Germany had not invaded Russia, they,the russian had not done anything, in other words...dont care what you do,as long as you dont do anything against me" that simple! 🤨
@@GermanRLopez you forget one little detail. They also agreed to split up Poland between the two of them. Already then Russia was just as evil as Nazi Germany.
They don’t like the truth.
For many Russians, yes, but for most, unless they're taking risks to get alternate viewpoints, they aren't getting any truth from their news sources.
Nope. We have some Trump cultists in american who don't like the truth as well. Propaganda is for real.
Who? You are synonym for lier.
@Rocky-sn6fl lol try that again, we can tell English is not your first language, " comrade"
you sound filled with hate.
He forget to say that USSR started the second world war alongside Germany by attacking and occyping half of Poland .whole Latvia,Lituania,Estonia ,parts of Finland(because they resisted) and parts of Romania ( Bukovina and what today is called Moldova) after 1939.
That’s a lie
@@johnm7267really? Russia is an aggressive terror state, has been most of modern history
@@johnm7267it’s literally world history 🤦🏼♂️
@@johnm7267 That are historycal FACTS
@@johnm7267Russia had an agreement and teamed up with the Nazi’s they were allies up until the day the Nazi’s invaded the USSR, that is world history
If the Soviet Union is no more, why does Russia still squat in their seat on the UN?
They’re a pariah state pretending they’re still a superpower.
It's a really good question. Part of the answer may well lie with Russia's nuclear status and/or the professed idea at the time of the collapse to stabilize / convert / befriend Russia asap.
correct give the veto to Ukraine
Russia was the heart of the Soviet union. They inherited most of the Soviet union weapons,etc.... to appease them,they were given a seat.
@@sonofdsunActually Soviet Union managed to negotiate as many as 3 seats with Belarus and Ukraine having separate seats at the UN even though they were all part of the same country at the time…That was Stalin’s sneaky way to gain more influence
Well done Mr Kirby.
Is that how you like your steak, or something?
@@anthor5419 If you dont know how to cook turnt to paprika channel tv
@@anthor5419 putin lover troll
@@anthor5419the truth hurts, doesn't it
@@BoxcarWillie42 On the contrary, at least for some of us, the truth feels just fine, Liar.
Why is Russia still in the UN? How many times have they attacked their neighbors?
dunnoo 1 - 2 ?
Why is USA still in the UN ? How many time have they attacked /invaded others ? 300+/ 400+ ? times...
That’s why all of America’s neighbours are in a hurry to protect themselves by joining a group like NATO.
Good one troll
@@ThatOneInTenThousand Stop deflecting, troll.
because America has never invaded a foreign country without the consent of 198 countries of the world :) therefore it is not "America", but the decision and consent of the whole world and America, unlike Russia, has never attacked with the aim of total destruction and genocide and seizure of territory. while RUSSIA has waged 6 wars since 1994, 4 of which were genocidal :) that is, 6 wars in the last 30 years..@@ThatOneInTenThousand
@@ThatOneInTenThousand Bullshit
Excellent statesmanship by Kirby
'Twisted and warped' describes the entire Russian mindset.
I wonder what is the russian word for "embarrassing"?
I wonder how russian's say, "Lets be honest" (The Anti-Christ frightenes The USA)?
Russians have never in their national character progressed politically & socially beyond Ivan the Terrible.
Stubborn refusal toward change has been a Russian trait since at least Peter the Great's era.
@@larsrons7937"Putin"
@@JoJoJonnSinn😂❤
Well said...everyone needs to call the ahole out..everyday
yes but let her speak
@@Karl-Benny Sputnik is a Russian dictatorship owned propaganda channel. Not a news media interested in facts.
@@Karl-Bennyshe was probably spewing putins propaganda. Just like Lavrov does
@@Karl-BennyShe can't speak freely - too afraid of having her famili killed by Putin.
Why is sputnik even allowed there
Russia suffered because of Stalin not because of being heroes.
So many modern SS followers are really itchy that Russia defeat Na* is, and chose to Iie by omission and rewrite history. In fact, Munich agreement in 1938 is the culprit of everything. Poland along with western countries took parts of CzekosIovakia and gave it to Germany.
And they still bring flowers to his grave.
It is not as simple as that. Hitler invaded USSR, and they had every right to defend themselves and to attack Germany to end the war. But Stalin had just as little respect for his own soldiers and civilians as Putin. The soldiers are just tools to spend in meat waves like in WW1 and WW2. Behind them is the same line of their own people shooting anyone who returns.
Ukraine suffered more than Russia during WW2. Check out the history. Germany swept south East and over ran Ukraine, Moscow was USSR priority, the other lands were expendable, to buy time. 3 years later, the USSR swept back. Germany destroyed as much as they could when retreating. USSR troops flattened what was left while chasing them back to Berlin.
@@michaelgeorge4826some people like Stalin, some people hate him.
Kick Russia out of UN and give all its privileges to Ukraine
?
Funny Nazi out there
Hear hear!
Fun fact: Ukraine (and Belarus and the USSR) joined the UN on 24 October 1945, the day the UN officially came into existence. The Russian Federation only became member on 24 December 1991, or 46 years and 2 months later.
"themasteryi masteryi"
Well said , John Kirby👍
Time to free Hawaii as well
hero worship
@@r.j.m4245don´t forget to wear your pampers whe you try to do that
@@r.j.m4245 is that the best you could come up with, Einstein? The sum of all your intellectual acuteness? Has the US invaded a free and indipendent, internationally recognized Hawaii, killed, r@pd its people and put them in mass graves? Ask yourself that before posting something so st00pid
he nailed it.
He should have started the history lesson in 1939 when Stalin & Hitler were allies. Puts s different perspective on the whole thing, and not a good one for russia. Exposes their history of foul deeds just a bit more.
Soviets signed a non aggression pact with Hitler the UK royal family were doing Nazi salutes and let's not forget the Dutch .
While you at it don't forget to mention where the Nazi scientists ended up definitely not in the Soviet union
He forget to say that USSR started the second world war alongside Germany by attacking and occyping half of Poland .whole Latvia,Lituania,Estonia ,parts of Finland(because they resisted) and parts of Romania ( Bukovina and what today is called Moldova) after 1939. After 1944 USSR occupied and enslaved whole Poland ,Latvia,Lituania,Estonia,Czechoslovakia,Hungary,Romania and parts of Germany. Deported Ukrainians,Latvians,Estonians,Lituanians, all Chechens, all Crimean Tatatrs,Kalmikian ,Kabardinians ,Greeks,Bulgarians(minorites who lived in Ukraine and in Crimea to open more room for Russian colonists) and etc. using the lend lease . Second world war brought to Eastern and Central Europeans the worst occupation of USSR which went for 45 years..Tens of millions of lifes of genefations destroied. They started with terrors,executions and arrests which German Nazis looked like little children in comparision.... The most casualties of the war were not Russians but Ukrainians and Belarrussians ...who were all occuped by German forces and longer..2 000 000 Rusians colaborated with German army any 6th in Wermacht in Eastern Front was Russian.The biggest atrocities were commited by Russian auxilaries of the Germans,Partizans sent from Moscow and latter by Red army...USA and UK aided one monster to help destroy another monster. That does not make Stalin and Russians better than Hitler and Nazi Germans then...But ofcourse you shy to admit the whole truth..only half of it is enough for you..because otherwise maybe you are accompice to Stalin??
@chrissavage5966 Stalin and Hitler didn't trust one another. they knew very well that one day they will go to war . Germany was buying time to attack British and occupy North Africa on other hand Stalin was buying time to make Red Army stronger. extra time worked for Stalin but led to Germany defeat at Stalingrad and aventuly lost the war .
@@thusomaepa1852 Nor the Nazi rocket scientists in the US. We can play ‘whatabout’ all day long, every nation has done heinous shit in their past, some not so distant, but russia…well, they just keep on getting worse.
@@johnivicevich4893 Hard to paint Stalin in a good light given he happily carved up Poland in his deal with Hitler.
You tell her John!!! 👍
Brilliant
And don’t forget that it is the Soviet Union that started WWII with the Nazis by attacking Poland after the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact.
These people love to live in the past! 🙄
The past is the cause of the present jackass
Yea. How dare they talk about 27 miI. people that west took from them. They are so paranoic for no reason..
That's because the past is all they have going for them.
your sounding like a nazi. they also generalised and made people into objects and stereotyped
Starting next year, they are going to celebrate Victory Day every week.
You can just see the look of contempt on people’s faces when she says she’s from Sputnik.
lmao
Most probably she's just an ordinary Russian woman, with an interest in being a journalist. Unfortunately she is living in Russia, most probably she is brainwashed and she's forced to keep on bringing messages the way her boss (Putin, Krermlin) sees fit.
The Fox News/Newsmax/OAN of Russia
The guy in the glasses lol
Sputnik = KGB is why, Comrade. Russia has zero free press, Boris, as you well know.
Kirby forgot to mention that before the February 21st speech he spent weeks saying he wouldn't invade and that the west was making everything up.
And my friends in Ukraine kept telling me Putin wouldn't invade because he said he wouldn't. Poor bastards. They really thought the Russians didn't want to hurt them and that Putin was a man of his word. They're so much more cynical (and enlightened) now.
@@ronaldbell7429 My friends in Ukraine knew what Putin was going to do all along.
@@haroldcampbell3337 Your friends were proven right. The people I knew definitely weren’t a minority viewpoint though. But… “all along”. Hmm… That means what exactly? They knew in early February? In January? Maybe in December? In 2018? 2014? They predicted the little green men before they actually showed? Maybe they were posting online Thanksgiving 2013 when the protests first started that Putin would invade if Yanukovych was thwarted? Or maybe they predicted when Yanukovych was first elected? Or they just saw the troops massing and said “I bet he’s gonna invade.” Unless they actually made some concrete preparations, then they didn’t really know. The public experts were saying it probably wouldn’t happen.
@@haroldcampbell3337then support you friend not the invaders
@@haroldcampbell3337you don’t have any friends in Ukraine lol. You probably don’t even have any friends in your hometown lol
Russia has no legal right to be on the UN. They wee never members of the UN. Russia left the USSR first. The other 14 states that made up the USSR then voted to disband the USSR, the only country that didn't vote to disband it was Armenia. Russia had no seat and should be barred, it's not even a legal vote. Just the same as when Yugoslavia dissolved, it could not pass on its seat to the other nations that came out of the old Yugoslavia.
This is so true
God bless you Sir🗽She learned quite a lot that day 😳
I’m sure she already knows that Soviet Union played big part in defeating nazism. He did not say anything that was mind blowing, calm your tits
Bravo Mr. Kirby!
Haven't been a real fan of this guy, but he did this right. Glad this reporter asked this question with a former US military leader!
Russian reporter??? She is clearly NOT A REPORTER! You can see and hear it in the way the question is asked and in the way the THOUGHT contained in the question is ARTICULATED.
This young lady is a perfectly trained AGENT OF THE KREMLIN PROPAGANDA APPARATUS!!! This is a fundamental difference: she does not represent Russian public opinion, she strictly follows orders coming from the Kremlin!
John Kirby, on the other hand, gave an excellent answer without allowing himself to be provoked into any discussion. An answer in which he expressed respect for the contribution of Soviet Russia to the defeat of Hitler, but at the same time indicating that today's Russia and its leader will plays the same role as Germany and Hitler eighty years ago. Bravo!!!
She uses Fox/Murdoch tactics.
She's probably a Russian reporter. She might be something else, but so many of them were raised on anti-West hatred. She's asking a question Russians often ask. Back home, they ask it and tell themselves that the question brilliantly exposes the hypocrisy of the west. At the White House, she asked the question and got the real answer. The problem is that no reporters from Russia are *really* reporters. It's not like she's going to be allowed to go home and print the answer she got.
@@communitygardener17 Fox/Murdoch took it from the Russians.
Just to mention. Is it fair to say that Trump made this invasion of Ukraine possible for Putin.
@@spotty67 No, it is NOT FAIR!
Donald Trump's presidential term lasted from January 20, 2017 to January 20, 2021. The FIRST Kremlin aggression against Ukraine took place in 2014, the second on February 24, 2022.
Russia's aggression against Ukraine was enabled by the so-called "reset" of President Obama, who politically was and still is not only a leftist but also an idiot. And the new war broke out during the presidency of Joe Biden, considered a continuator of Obama's policies. Not without reason! More than a year after taking the presidency!
And so I wonder who you are? A microcephalic who doesn't remember anything, or a conscious, cynical liar? I fhink there is no third way, so who are you, spotty?
Russia wasn’t a liberator but a occupier. They switched dictator Hitler for dictator Stalin.
YEP DOUBLE YEP
@TerryMcMaster-jw8zr Ask the states "liberated" by Russia, most of them are today the most devoted NATO members because they fear Russia will "liberate" them again as they are liberating Ukraine... Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland etc.
And as a bonus the Communists killed way more people then Hitler. Something the Zombies seems to be forgotten on their red square parade’s?
@TerryMcMaster-jw8zr what's up, can't face reality?
@TerryMcMaster-jw8zr Ask the Baltic states - They'll tell you about their wonderful peaceful neighbour in the east.
Old American veteran. Russia today has become everything we to gather fought aginst from Germany.
He was very very polite.
Prrfect! 👏👏
Freakin soviets.... always have to bring up wwii like that make them saints
They are really obsessed about wwii
WHat else are they gonna bring up that doesn't make them look like dirt?
They even sided with Hitler at first, and then switched sides
Russia lives in an imaginary past. Russia has never even been close to being a free country. Russians have no concept of Freedom or Democracy. They have never had any say in their future, except by bleeding.
Yepp, straight out from dictator pootin's playbook.. war is peace, fear is love, endless war, etc - it's like 1930' Gemany.
Well, said Mr. Kirby well said not one fall statement in any of that response!
Well, the "fall" of the Soviet Union was implied, mate.
Well said Mr kirby you are a very passionate man about justice
We were not allies, we had a common enemy. Allies were all in, Russia let us fight Japan on our own for instance.
they were 'users' , which RIGHT NOW they DON'T REMEBER EVEN WHEN AMERICA WAS SENDING THEY FOOD & MONEY, when SSSR collapsed n call America pindosiya, n want ot "nuke Yellow stone' (on state tv )
The Russians beat the Japanese after they beat the Nazis. Operation August Storm. Biggest military defeat in Japanese history.
Yes, well done, Mr Kirby.
The reporter should ask Poland about the Soviet Union’s actions in WW2. Then take a look about Russia’s actions now. If Ukraine was marginalizing Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine, invasion and annexation is never the solution more so as Ukraine is not and never was an existential threat to Russia.
They don't argue that it was; Their argument (however flawed or paranoid) is that NATO was the existential threat, by way of UKR.
@-108- That is one of putin's reasons for invading Ukraine. He can't keep track of them all because he just pulls them out of his ass when they change his little man diaper!
How did those Russians get into Eastern Ukraine to begin with?
Answer: Holodomor
Oh ok, ask Kirby to tell about 50% of Mexico annexation by US
@dmitryletov8138: Well, considering Kirby just said he's no historian, why would you ask him about that?
let's not forget though that the USSR and Germany actually invaded Poland together. Russia switched sides, so they never have been a reliable friend of any allies that they have ever had
Then the Soviets blamed the Ukrainians for being Nazis and the Nazis blamed the Ukrainians for being Soviets... Muscovia is a sick sick place
Russia, like former president Chump, is only a friend of Russia. Russia has henchmen, but no friends.
And Soviet attacked Finland, baltic states etc in 1939.. ruzzia is a fascist state and has always been.
What kept the Soviets in WW2 and stopped their collapse were the ' Atlantic Convoys ' . Russia seem to think she won the war more or less on their own . Well done Sir.
And the Bombing campaign that Stalin asked for above the city's of Germany that kept thousand of men and guns in and around Targets in Germany and away from the Eastern front.
Don't forget the Lend-Lease Act where FDR gave the Soviets equipment and supplies. This included the P-39 Airacobra which the U.S. pilots didn't particularly like, but the Russian pilots loved them and used them with great success.
Kirby stated Russia suffered greatly during WWII. News flash: Ukraine suffered more. They also suffered before WWII and after. And don’t get me started on the Tartars.
Ukrainians also suffered with the Holodomor, great famine, imposed to them by Stalin government.
John Kirby is semi-correct about the USSR and WWII history. The USSR was not an ally of the Allied Forces for the first 2 years of WWII. On August 23, 1939 Stalin/the USSR signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler/Germany, providing support and joint forces to Hitler. The USSR invaded Poland, Finland, Romania and the Baltic states. It was not until Hitler launched Operation Barbarosa and suprisingly turned coat and invaded Russia on June 22, 1941, that Stalin ran to the Allied Forces for life saving assistance, asking for money, food to keep the Russians from starving, medication, and equipment to replenish their troops in their effort to fight off and defeat Hitler/Germany who had betrayed them. Let's not give Russia more credit than they are owed, they were in the war for their own benefit and did not become our ally until they were about to lose everything to Germany. Once the war was over, the USSR went on it's own way ... enter the Cold War.
Could you comprehend English ? Does non-aggression pact sounds the same as alliance pact?
No
The lend lease program accounted for a total of 5% of the Soviet war effort
The Soviet union also provided goods and materials to the USA (which is often overlooked)
The majority of the lend lease aid arrived after 1943 when the Germans had really already lost the war.
The Red army bore 90% of the German war effort, and caused around 86% of all German military casualties
@@dmitryletov8138 If you're not against the aggression, you help the aggression.
@@dmitryletov8138they aggressed Poland, Finland …it was an aggression pact , the name was for the coverup.
Excellent, excellent, excellent talk from John Kirby 👍
Kirby is an Admiral.
He's wrong though. Ukrainians and Belarusians suffered even more than Russians in WW2. Proportionately, they contributed and lost the most.
do you know that soviet generals were sending , just like now, ppl in meat attack back than too??? W/0 any weapon, how they were grabbing Ukrainians , boys too, n sent them to 'storm' Dniper,... barehanded,,,
That is not true, a Ukraine provided 5% of the total red army...their casualty rates were not higher
@@LoveBagpipesgo educate yourself and learn about holodomor and how much Ukrainians really suffered. Entire Ukraine was a battle ground for years during ww2. They suffered not only nazis but also from soviets.
Ukraine was on the Nazis side. Not Think Belarus was also a nazi allie. I'm not quite sure on Belarus
@@LoveBagpipesUkraine was part of the axis. You'll find
He stopped short of saying Russia is the new Nazis but that's what I would have gone for.
How come Russia is new Nazis? There are less Ukrainian civilians died than Gazan civilians.
Bravo Admiral, well said!
Brainwashed reporter gets a reality check....😂😂
Not really a reporter if there is no free press but I see your point.
Maybe, but Kirby needs a history check...
@@habana7638you dont need to be a historian to know that putin cant get the fuck out of somebody elses country.
She's not brainwashed. She knows exactly what's going on and is part of the Russian operation.
On one hand - it's satisfying to see how Mr. Kirby there and the folks in this comment section are fairly adept at recognizing ruzziаn bots and refusing to partake in their bs... On the other hand - it's depressing to realize, that most of these same people are more than happy to swallow the exact same kind of drivеl (hook, line and sinker) from hаmаs (aka Pаlеstinе "ministrу of hеаlthсаre")... Some history sadly isn't taught quite as extensively as the major plot of WW2.
John Kirby completely forgot to say that Slavery Union survived because US and UK sent thousands of weapons (planes, tanks, trucks, Jeeps, etc) on the Mend Lease agreement !
Well said sir.
The Ukrainian people suffered greatly during the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union.
Both Bellarussians and Ukrainians
so that makes it OK for them to invade russia and escalate this war
@marcl3763: No, Russia invading Ukraine makes it ok for Ukraine to invade Russia. 🤦♂️
i love this.
Good and also very diplomatic answer.
That was mint!!!!!!!
Yep Russia was just going for groceries in Finland! in 1939
Perfect delivery 👌
Funny- both Russia and Italy were with Germany early in WWIl. Sure, they both split away from Germany.
But they started out as allies with the Nazis.
russia was never ally of western civilised world. They just had common enemy during wwII
Russia has been Germany's ally many times for several hundred years. Tsarina Catherine the Great was of German origin.
Bros allergic to history lmao what a wild comment 💀
@@Smarcue2025 no, hes right. Russia has always been an ene y of the civilized world
@@dearmas9068 boy stop dropping all those bs comments 😂✌️
@@Smarcue2025 I'm sorry you were born in a place where lies, apathy, and cruelty rule everything.
I'm also sorry that you're foolish and naive enough to believe it all.
I like everything kirby said 🙌🏽🇺🇸💯
Who bankrolled the USSR and who sent the equipment via the northern merchant fleet.
My grandfather served on those convoys. It boils my blood that Russians today want to forget about his contribution.
@@AWMJoeyjoejoe yes I've seen pictures of the effort these men put in. Not only dangers of enemy fire but the weather conditions where treacherous.
@@AWMJoeyjoejoemy grandfather was also on the North Sea convoys...reality though is that lend lease accounted for 5% of their total war effort, and primarily came after 1943 (when the Germans had really already lost the war)...the USSR also supplied both the USA and Britain with materials too 🤷
The Red army took on 90% of the total German war effort and inflicted 86% of all German military casualties...we ought not forget that either
Go John - well said Sir
Telling it like it is. No diplomatic wishy washy statements.
Most importand answer from Kirby .
Finland never forgot the actions of the USSR during WW2. That's why when the western countries had demilitarised strategy during the 90s and 00s, the Finns kept their military forces on the same level. Because they knew their neighbour and frankly did not trust them ... and here we are today.
Not to forget, that Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union and had it's part in the fight against Nazi Germany. We in the west tend to call all of them 'russians'. Meanwhile, we should have learned to differentiate .
Exactly! Ukraine and not Russia (for the most part) was under German occupation for a few years during WW2. The holocaust was also taking place mostly in Ukraine which had a much larger Jewish population than Russia.
I remember I saw photos from Krushchev's visit to USA in the 1950s. Some showed Americans protesting in demonstration against him. The protesters' sign said phrases like "Free Ukraine" and "Stop occupation of Ukraine." When we during the Cold War perceived Ukraine as some part of russia, oh my how wrong we were. They never were. They were always occupied, for hundreds of years, until 1991. Today Ukraine is struggling for their right to freedom and self-determination.
John Kirby says it like it is.
"Especially the Russian people suffered deeply"
- even tho Ukraine and Belarus lost millions in population, Belarus loosing 25% of it's population
- 6.4M Ukrainians were starved alone in 1932-33 and another 1 Million shot in 1937
- RSFSR enlarged itself at expense of Georgia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Finland, Belarus, Latvia and Estonia on territories that Narkom couldn't even justify, because those territories were populated by well, Kazakhs, Ukrainians, Fins, Belarusans, Latvians, Estonians and Kists.
Considering Russia collaborated with nazi Germany to start WW2, we might just as well list the numbers of German dead too, if we are to judge who was a victim and who an aggressor solely by numbers of dead
Yes, even though Ukraine and Belarus suffered all of that, Russia DID suffer greatly under the Nazi occupation. The subject was Russia, not Belarus or Ukraine.
@@mikek0135 Russia collaborated with the nazis to start the war.
@@mikek0135 But he should not have said, "especially the Russian people." Russians didn't suffer any more, and it's not a contest
@tayler2396: He said "specifically", not "especially", when he was talking about the suffering during WW2. She's from Russia, she was asking about Russia, the topic was Russia, and he kept it about Russia. The way he said it, though, made it sound like he was saying "especially" Russia suffered - because he's a very well practiced word smith. He chose his words to appeal to "the Russian side", and to "the non-Russian side".
Speaking specifically about the Russians suffering during WW2, they DID suffer greatly, regardless of whether or not Ukraine, or Belarus suffered more.
I see your point, though.
say it as it is Mr Kirby love it
He's just stating the facts.
What facts? That Russia played a major role in defeating Nazi Germany? Who ever disputed this? If anything in today’s Russia they completely dismiss and ignore any role in the victory played by its former allies: the US and the UK. So which facts was she stating??
Well said sir-so true.
Why do i feel they set up that reporter to school her...she literally is playing victim just to be attacked😂😂😂
Ask childish questions, be ready to be patronized
Well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The Nazis occupied all of Ukraine, and only a very small area of Russia. It was UKRAINE that suffered from the Nazis, not the Russians.
100%!!! Babii Yar only had been a massive grave for Jewish. there was another concentration camp , near Kiev.... ruZZli WORSE than nazi were back than. they didn't raped BABIES ON CAMERA!!!
lol don't tell that to the millions that got killed by the Nazis in Russia they might disagree
You regards Moskow, Stalingrad and Leningrad (now St. Petersburg ) part of Ukraine? Some Americans are really Pathetic in their ignorance🥲
Bullshit! The Ukrainians absolutely did suffer under the Nazis, and so did the Russians! Nazi Germany occupied a larger area of Russia than Ukraine. Your statement went WAY too far!
Nailed it!
Actually, because very little of Russia was occupied in WWII, the Russian people suffered measurably less in WWII than Ukrainians and Belarusians.
They suffered as soldiers - stupid leader were sending millions for certain death, cause they were too stupid to come up with better ideas.
Just like in Ukraine today - Russians do not give a damn about their own people.
How so? Out of 27 million, 19 million were Russian victims.
Ever heard of Stalingrad battle, Kursk battle? They were the ones that won the war. Russians.
Where do you learn history, on KyivPost?
These are the Soviet official figures for deaths in WWII as % of 1940 population
Byelorussian SSR: 25.3%
Ukrainian SSR: 16.3%
Latvian SSR: 13.7%
Armenian SSR: 13.6%
Lithuanian SSR: 12.7%
Russian SFSR: 12.7%
As you can see, "the Russian people suffered measurably less in WWII than Ukrainians and Belarusians."
USSR citizens, not only Russians - Kazachs, Armenians, Georgians and many other nations.
Russia won the war - if not Russia UK and US would not be able to do it.
Out of 19 millions of casualties on USSR side - how many were killed when USSR invaded Finland? How many died just because human life meant nothing to Russian leaders?
There are many cemeteries of Russian soldiers killed in 1945 when fighting Stalin's ex ally: Hitler.
I alway pay my respect and I am really sorry for poor boys killed in stupid war fighting in foreign country - Poland.
I am even more sorry for grandmother's cousin, who survived Nazis, 5 years of war just to be taped almost to death by barbarians of Red Army.
@@Old-Bald-and-Grumpy You are going off on a variety of tangents. The fact remains that "the Russian people suffered measurably less in WWII than Ukrainians and Belarusians."
Kick Russia out of UN finally. If not, then allow everyone in, including Taliban.
She should be putting in jail like they do in Russia with the Americans
Correction, russia was never the good guy. They were on Germany’s side in 1939 and divided Poland between them and Germany when they both invaded Poland. They didn’t voluntarily fought Germany, Germany invaded them.
"It's today." This is the major point.
wait... the russian people especially? no on no no! Belarusians and Ukrainians took the worst civilian losses, not russians!
Stalin himself admitted that the Soviets would have lost without the tremendous help from the US (weapons, supplies etc)
There is one Country, that still suffers - it has suffered many times: Ukraine.
It has suffered Stalin-Soviet Union, It has Suffered from the invasion of the Hazis, then, again, Stalin and the rest of the soviet union, now 2022 to 2024 again, the Nazis of Russia.
Bravo!!
The Soviet Union was allied to Hitler, since August 1939. They started the war together, the Nazis and Stalin invaded Poland on September 1939. They even held a JOINT military parade in Warszaw to celebrate the victory! Then, Moscow immediately proceeded to invade Finland, and later the three Baltic countries, and then tried to take Romania from Bessarabia (Moldavia). Moscow later fought the Nazis only because it was invaded by them!
Not only this, but the casualties in WW2 were not "Russians" but Soviets: Moscow used its colonies to protect itself. 5 to 7 million Ukrainians died fighting the Germans, a much higher percentage of the population compared to the Russians, and many other "Soviet" casualties of the war were not Russians but Turkic people, Mongols, Tatars, from Bashkortostan, Tatarstan, Siberia, Buriatia, etc, all populations previously enslaved by Moscow and forced to fight all the wars for Moscow. The Russian Empire should have been dissolved in the same way as the German State, but Europe was too weak and "civilized", and the USA was too dumb to oppose the foxes in Moscow.
They try not to focus on this side of their history in Russia. I was born and grew up in Soviet Union and I can testify that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was a top secret up until late 80s when Gorbachev came to power. Until then we were all taught the same lie that Nazi Germany all of a sudden decided to invade USSR in June of 1941. The Finland campaign was never mentioned either.
@@SailToTheMoon6719
"They try not to focus on this side of their history" The point is that the whole history of Muscovia is one of aggression, invasion of neighbouring countries, elimination of the local population, and eradication of its history and language that got replaced by Russian ones, and exploitation of the invaded population to invade the next one.
_“Russia can only be remembered as the owner of territories taken from other nations, from other peoples and which they will have to give back on the day of reckoning.”_
Friedrich Engels, 1820-1895. German philosopher
spot on 😅
The Soviet Union was Germany's ally at the outbreak of WW2, as stipulated in the secret Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. As for the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941: Most of the fighting occurred in modern day Ukraine and Belarus.
Is Moscow, Smolensk, Tula, Leningrad in Ukraine???
@@dmitryletov8138 the Germans had to fight their way through Soviet Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltics before reaching Russia proper.
What was then it was then. What is now it is now.
Regards from Poland!
Well Said John Kirby. All of it. From a Conservative American giving credit where it is due.
Real conservative loathe russ
To add, USSR wasn't Russia but it was a union of number of countries. Ukraine and Belarus suffered mostly from the Nazi invasion in terms of occupaied land abd civilian casualties but modern Russia wouldn't recognise that. In fact modern Russia today has more in common with Nazis Germany than with USSR.
Russia in fact recognize that. Don't lie.
@@dmitryletov8138 Today's Russia is a fascist state that do not recognize the existence of Ukraine or Ukrainian identity. In none of the numerous official speeches Russian fuhrer Putin admitted Ukrainian efforts and suffering in defeating Nazis. USSR started WW2 in alliance with Nazi Germany by attacking Poland as result of it millions of people died, countries were destroyed and depopulated but russian people still think they suffered the most and victory over Nazi Germany is their own single handed effort.
"Rules based order" rules written by America and enforced by America, for the benefit of America, and only to be broken by America, load the dice!
Soviet Union included much more than Russia : Ukraine, Baltic states, and many more former countries and states outside the current internationally recognized borders of Russia.
So don’t reduce SU to today’s Russian dictatorship.
Yes, plus Polish army re-created by deceived Polish prisoners. I mean 1. The Soviet Union attacked Poland in 1939 2. arrested Polish soldiers and deported to Siberia 3. when attacked by Nazi Germany in 1941 the SU said to the Poles: "now we need your help to fight Germans so let's be allies this time, and after the war you will have independent Poland." 4. Then the SU virtually occupied Poland for a few decades until the Solidarity movement defeated communism in Poland and consequently in Europe.
Well said bravo
Today.... the soviet union Does Not exist.
They acknowledge that the USSR was their ally; Russia doesnt recognise that the USA, France, UK and others where there allies in WWII.
Kirby couldn't teach Pig how to be dirty . 😂
There are people who can't learn shit no matter what, eh.
Kirby would shcool you.
@biggles106 maybe in telling bullshit and spinning the Political agenda
Rich ,coming from a weak piglet.
Well said buddy
First, Putin do not act alone, without approval of the government. In fact, he is very moderate, compared to the rest of them. Secondly, more than 80pc of world community is on his side. In this world only US acts alone, along with the states pressed into working against their own best interests. Words, words, words...
@@predragraos-k5r you must be very clueless. Consume less of propaganda
@@onestnetwork He is correct and you can't even offer any argument.
Complete nonsense and lies. Even the Democrats would blush at that rubbish.
That's the biggest load of utter nonsense, fake news, propaganda and lies I've ever read. Are you for real or are you mentally deficient? Even the the Democrats don't lie that much!
Your cl@onestnetwork your clueless sucked in by western pentagon propaganda
Soviet Union was waiting when Nazis were destroying Warsaw but we should have forgiven each other That’s history they were also attacked by Nazis.Vladimir is clearly feeding his pathetic ego
Kirby nails it.
Thank you Sir.
Love this American guy, so funny especially the joke that he tells about Ukraine winning . Absolutely brilliant.
Bravo! ❤