Double Dragon (NES vs Master System) Gameplay Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- A side-by-side comparison of the game Double Dragon between Nintendo 8-bit (Famicom/ NES) and SMS (Master System/ Mark III).
Note: The NES version of Double Dragon has a 2-player option, however, it is not simultaneous but rather alternating, similar to the early Super Mario Bros games.
Single Dragon vs Double Dragon
Basically!
Can't even choose between Bimmy and Jimmy
Americans don't get this. The NES is a cult there
Kkkkkkkkkkk
ajajajajajaj totally !
I still have this for my NES, it's awesome the music alone is epic.
The arcade music is better
@@alexojideagu That's your go-to because the SMS music sure isn't! LOL!
@@SomeOrangeCat right? Lol I would take the arcade and nes music any day over the ms music.
@alexojideagu Nah, the NES just has a charm to it but both NES and Arcade stomp the MS's at least.
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Master system has real 2 player support , all moves available and more characters on screen. That being said the flicker can be seizure inducing
Plus different fm music
The flicker wasn't the game-breaking issue for me, it was the horrible collision/hit detection.
A versão do Master System foi o primeiro jogo da Arc System Works.
q depois fez BlazBlue o pinaculo dos jogos de luta 2d
It is interesting how it is one of these before they were famous kinds of games. As it was before, they would make the games that them famous. Like how Crash N' Burn on the 3DO was the first game by developer Crystal Dynamics, the current developer of the Tomb Raider games.
My whole childhood I played the MS version. When I got a NES I played DD² only. Last year I played DD¹ from NES via emulation and I saw how good it was; the gameplay is different but yet good.
Don't sleep on the NES version's vs mode. It's like a neat little 1v1 fighting game where you can play as the different bad guys too.
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I preffer the Master System port, nearer arcade.
Same
Especially fm music
I like the music and artistic style of the NES, but the FM soundtrack from the SMS DD (or Sega Mark III) is also very good. Not to mention the co-op multiplayer of the Master System version with 2 simultaneous players // gosto muito de ambas, cada uma com as suas peculiaridades 😮
The colors & sprite details really shines on the SMS version. The SMS version also seem to show more sprites too.
However Background details look better on the NES. The NES version looks like it a has a little more levels too.
Music is obviously better on the NES which is not surprising since it has a superior soundchip over the Master System's.
Not if you count the built-in FM. Unfortunately, though, many devs did not care for it. Also, it was exclusive to Japan unless you modified an overseas unit.
Though, I suppose such was the fate for many of the SEGA platforms regarding heavily underutilized potential.
@@Medachod Similar fate with the NES soundchip. In Japan the Famicom gets all these nice Sound Expansions while in NA it's just the stock soundchip.
Nope there is fm music version on sms too
@@Mr.Atari2600 Don't even get me started on how many more games I wish used the VRC7.
Apesar de achar a versão de Master System mais bonita e fiel ao arcade mas eu pessoalmente acho a gameplay do double dragon de Master completamente quebrada (dá até para ver no video que ou a Marota usa voadora ou ela da um soco e recua), pois a distancia do soco do inimigo é grande, se os inimigos te encurralarem é quase certeza que vc vai perder metade da vida, e a IA dos inimigos é super apelona.
Então mesmo com todos os prós da versão do master a versão do NES é melhor (já que a jogabilidade e a diversão são os elementos principais de um jogo).
I grow up with the Master System II. Yes, rhe NES had Super Mario and Castlevania.... but some games and Sonic on the MS2 where just on a different level.
A hill I'll die on is that the 8-bit Sonic games were more fun than the 16-bit ones.
Some people might rag about the flicker for SMS DD but we all forgave it for the Co-op. Co-op was a big feature back then. I noticed some people complain about the hit detection of the SMS version but I disagree. Hit detection was just fine for me as I can hit when I want to hit. I think what they are actually complaining about is the subpar stun mechanics. Even the NES has this issue. To be honest, I don't remember if this is arcade accurate or not.
I'd forgive the flicker if the hit detection wasn't so dodgy.
@@SomeOrangeCatAs I explained, hit detection is fine. ^_^
@@dtester So you're calling me a liar then. I'm far from the only person who noticed this issue.
@@SomeOrangeCatSuch an odd response! You don't have to be a liar to be mistaken and more than one person can make the same mistake.
As I said in my original post, there is certainly an imperfection, but it's not hit detection. I believe what people are complaining about is a lack of "stun" which can make your attacks feel ineffective.
@@SomeOrangeCat can i pet you, orange kitty?
Absolutely different games and the same, amazing videos.
This is one is a legit toss up.
The NES Double Dragon only had the single player option. There is a 2 player mode, but you take turns. Quite possibly because of this, they decided to go beyond the Arcade version and include new areas in the various stages. There is also a vs fighter mode.
The SMS version, goes for a more direct Arcade port. It features 2 player co-op.
Both are squeezing their sound chips to belt out those arcade tunes.
Both seem to manage similar character sizes. Flicker is present in both versions but more noticeable on the SMS (the price paid for 2 players).
The SMS version puts it palette to better use, in both the characters and the backgrounds.
There seems to be something a little wonky with certain enemies in the SMS version targeting one specific player (allowing the other to land uncontested blows).
I had both versions back in the day and both played well enough.
Master System version was far superior. Plus two player mode ... it wins hands down. Double Dragon 2 on the Nes was the nuts though! The game boy port was qauilty too!
A versão do Master System é bem mais próximo do Arcade, prefiro essa!
Nes 8-bits = Melhor sonoridade + Excelente jogabilidade
Master System = Gráficos mais bonitos + péssima jogabilidade
Nes 8-bits Wins!
Essa tela titulo da versão do Master System, com os dragões em azul e vermelho, supera tanto a versão do Mega Drive, quanto a versão original do Arcade, pois as cores dos dragões estão de acordo com as cores dos personagens principais desse clássico jogo !!!
Nes for me, sounds and plays way better, prettier graphics on the sms for sure but its janky with a less memorable soundtrack so for me its the nes version that i personally prefer.
And despite not having co-op the NES had a cool 1-v-1 fighting game built in, where you can chose between the Lee brothers and several badguys.
Que nostalgia de ambas as versões..eu ainda tenho a versão do Nes que jogava muito no meu hi top game ...a do Master System jogava no vizinho que tinha master, e sempre achavamos a mais fiel ao arcade, e dava pra jogar de 2 players....Dois ports fantásticos e divertidos, trilha sonora sem dúvida é a do Nes, mas questão de fidelidade ao arcade ponto pro Master...mas considero um empate no geral! Diversão garantida em qualquer um deles! bom demais!
The Nes version backgrounds look more detailed and the music on the Nes version is ❤🔥
The FM music version kills the NES
@@alexojideagu I disagree. I kind of prefer the PSG sound over the FM, yet still the Nes version music is really well done.
Master System is closer to the arcade in game play. It puts the Double in Double Dragon. You don't have to level up to earn moves. NES does have a bit more background quality, I'll give it that. NES would win on BGM, unless you use FM sound on the SMS. Flicker on SMS is a little annoying but not a deal killer.
It is closer to the arcade game, but it sounds worse and the bad hit detection really ruined the experience for me. And while it does have FM support, the composition is poor, sounding flatter and lethargic.
Amava demais o DD do master, comprei usado de um vizinho.... jogava com um amigo, o pimba e o apice era a luta entre nós dois depois de derrotar o chefe final kkkk.
Both excellent, but I grew up playing the MS version, so 'll go with that one
The Nes version is much better.
Are these the real buttons being pressed and if they are, how did you record them?
Nes ofc
I like the NES version better. Has more background variety and mechanics.
And that soundtrack is so iconic, its considered the definitive take on it.
This is one of those things, that when these games were relevant I would have preferred the arcade experience and general graphics and 2 players of the master system.
In 2024, the NES still is a fun game, and being so different to the arcade it’s more fun to revisit. While with the master system there is less reason to come back to it, because it’s just a poorer version of the arcade without having much uniqueness.
Master , finishing with no continues. Separate men from boys
I like the Master System better, but there's too much flickering on the characters. That's the only thing I don't like.
This was the game
To BEAT.
I love. The master system version.
Master System advantages:
- 2 players coop
- 4 or 5 (with slowdown) people in the screen
- different enemies at same time
- arcade levels fidelity
- all moves since the beginning (this is not rpg)
- NO PLATFORMS
- no bad designed level parts
- more colorful graphics
Plus unlimited continues (with a secret trick).
Nice accurate breakdown of the SMS version!
@@OtomoTenzithanks ! I liked the trick but after I thought it was more challenging to finish with no continues.
Try the Japanese version. There the continues are limited
@@pliniomsann It's quite possible to beat it without any continues, but in order to accomplish that, I'll need to have back all my skills and reflexes from way back then when I was only 12 years old! 🧒
@@OtomoTenzihaha keep trying
Both have shortcomings, but if the sound of the NES had been combined with the fluidity of the SMS everything would be perfect, in short, a matter of taste. 😒
There is an FM music version of the master system game
@@alexojideagu Even better! 👍
Esse o Master System leva.
Master System
I know that the SMS version will always face alot of scrutiny for its slowdowns, flickering, and piss-poor hit detection but it is still vastly considered as the more technically superior version of the two.
As far as simultaneous color rendering goes, I think the Master System is better, but the sprites are broken and flickering.
I think the NES version is better in terms of playability.
Also, both versions are North American, so panties are censored. Verdict: The arcade version with panties is the best.
Na versão do Master, os caras fizeram algo fiel ao arcade. No NES é uma adaptação. Prefiro o Master, mas a versão do NES é mais clássica e até apareceu no filme "The Wizard" (1989).
Master system wins!
Sempre preferi a versão do Master System por ser mais fiel a versão de arcade
👍🏼
NES!
Master System Flickering Dragon
😁
Master System.
Master System looks better, but Nes is probably the better game.
Too bad the 7800 got the most pathetic version 😢
That's honestly one of the worst versions I've played, and that includes the MS-DOS port.
@@SomeOrangeCat though, someone showed that the 7800 version could have been better looking than the master system version. And sounded as good as the NES version.
@@KrunchyTheClown78 Could have, but ultimately wasn't.
@@SomeOrangeCat Sadly.
@@KrunchyTheClown78 The 7800 was a lot of wasted potential.
The SMS version is more arcade accurate and has co-op, but it has terrible hit detection, lots more flicker and has the weaker soundtrack.
Nes sempre com sua meia duzia de cores nos jogos.😂
So, if fewer colors are bad, then do I have some bad news for you about the Genesis vs SNES.
Nes version, sms version music and sound effects sounds terrible, and gameplay feels janky.
Now if you wanna see a truly horrid 8-bit port of this game, might I suggest the Atari 7800 version? It looks terrible, plays terrible *and* the audio is pure torture, due to the 7800 using the same sound hardware as the 2600!
Ironically there is an Atari 2600 port as well. Impressive that they tried but it's one of those games where "just because you can doesn't mean you should".
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Fm music on sms destroys nes music
Except the orchestration on the SMS version is trash.
@@SomeOrangeCat did you hear fm variant music?
@@rustymixer2886 Yes. Its the same compositions, just played through the FM synth. The compositions on the NES version are objectively fuller, and more upbeat.
@@SomeOrangeCat imo the fm variant (not pgm) soundtrack of Mark 3 version is better than nes especially title screen music
@@rustymixer2886 It's really not. It's the same composition as the PSG version, just with FM synthesis instead. And that title theme is less than 20 seconds long. The NES version is the entire song.
Wow they are so diffetent , I'll pick NES
NES 👍
Tristemente sega se lleva de calle ala versión de Nintendo por mucho lo único que la ayuda a Nintendo es la banda sonora de ahi en fuera ni como ayudarle😒
I go with nes version
master systrem bem melhor
Music: NES version
All the rest: Sega version
NES had better hit detection and less flicker.
For those who keep trying to claim the FM music is better: Its the exact same tunes as the PSG version, with the same weak, lifeless composition. The only difference is the playback method. Also, stop trying to pretend that's how you played the game back in the day, the FM synth option was *only* available in Japan. So unless your first taste of this game was on an imported Mark III + the aftermarket FM option or the later built-in model(still Japanese exclusive), you grew up playing this with the ear-splitting PSG audio.
Another thing I wanna point out, Arc System Works, who made the SMS version went on to own the franchise. Yet they left the SMS version out of the recent compilation they released. So we know they must not be very proud of it.
NES has better art
Master System FTW! The NES version sounds like they cranked up grandpa’s golf cart into overdrive and it’s crashing through the greens. Master System version is aesthetically pleasing to listen.
And yet the Master System got chucked in the dust bin of history, while the NES version is the one that finds itself included in modern compilations.
@@SomeOrangeCatLol you must be American. The Master System was the best selling console in Europe just above the Megadrive and Snes until the PS1. The NES in Europe flopped. It still had new PAL exclusive games until 1996 like streets of Rage 2 and Sonic 2. And in Brazil it's still the best selling console and is therefore officially the longest console still in production in history.
@@alexojideagu It might have been king in Europe, but Tec Toy did all that heavy lifting in Brazil, not Sega. Hence why the official sales figures do not factor them in. By your logic the NES is the better selling console, because of all of the crappy Famiclones that come out of China to this very day.
Thank you to my brothers overseas. Bottom line DD on the NES is a little brawler that had way too much sugar, and why is it a 1 player at a time game? Master System version retain the 2 player co-op of the arcade.
The masses are missing out!
@@sonicsju Even the developer of the Master System version seems ashamed of it. They own the whole franchise now, yet only rerelease the Arcade and NES versions. Lol.
O Master system sola o NES 8 bit
só não foi o melhor da quela época por causa do maldito monopólio da Nintendo sega wins.
MS humiliates the Nes version!
Does it though? Sure, it has co-op, but it's deficient in other areas.
@@SomeOrangeCat well, we all know the big N schemes, that's why the Nes was so successful. But in my humble opinion, the Sms's graphics and sound were much better.
@@lincarrey Graphics? Maybe, sound is objectively better on the NES.
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Sega Maste System much better, smooth scrooll.
Master system more like the arcade. Just has a terrible flicker going on