Mamba X 2280 vs Axe FOC 2300
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2018
- Mamba X VS Hobbywing Axe FOC 2300, both are good but very different.
Hobbywing Axe on ebay
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Castle Mamba X
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Castle Mamba X is on ebay
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If you are international or just prefer ebay, you can get the Axe system here
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I love these axe videos you've made. Keep up the good work.
Good comparisons and reviews.
thanks for this video. i went with the axe 550 system. super quiet, super easy to program especially with the app. never had problems stalling on my 12 lbs trx6. only thing i added was an 11v motor fan because the 550 get really hot while i go crawling in the 110 degree weather here in the desert southwest lol
You had done an excellent job on this segment , I know last year but enjoyed watching .. ! 👍
One thing that wasn’t mentioned is the auto throttle adjust on the axe when you bump up to a climb so that you keep continuously going the same speed instead of having to give extra throttle to make the climb. Great video an
can you elaborate more on this? is this a setting in the ESC? can you post a link to a video that goes over this?
Great video,thanks for the comparison now I what buy, hi from Costa Rica 🇨🇷 🇨🇷🇨🇷🤜🏻🤛🏻
Super review, great explanation and breakdown of each system. Oh and I love your ginger cat (8:10 - 8:18, it's adorable how it checks out what you are doing and then looks like it's thinking he don't have anythng I can eat so I'm just gonna go about my business...
Yep that's right I really LOVE cats.
For real :):) the cats a curious bad ass hunter!!:)
The stalling may be an issue with Servo Interference if the End of the R1 AXE motor is too close to a Servo. The R2 versions have additional shielding.
R1 users can use a Half dollar sticky taped to the end of the motor to add shielding, if they are experiencing issues.
Thank you! I want a quiet system. And now i know what to buy. thanks.
The Axe looks a lot smoother. 🤔
It's REALLY tough to beat the smoothness of power delivery of pretty much anything Hobbywing. Best crawler motors out there IMO!
Hi, just to let you know that after watching your video and without being an expert but some one that oacscioally takes my RC and going play with my soon, I ended completely convinced that I should get the AXE system.
I have read the other comments about fine tunning the Castle, but that is also kind for experts, I don't plan to spend so much time tunning and trying to get the system work better, but just install it, set it up for the first time and then play with it all the next other times.
You say AXE is kind for experts but the way I see it, is perfect for me, as it seems to be easier to get it work better.
Thaks for your review, I have a TRX-4 Defender and looking for some ESC/Motor upgrade for a while, now I am sure I have to get AXE 2300KV.
The Axe 2300 is actually a very easy system to setup with your smartphone. Just gear that TRX with the stock pinion and you’ll be fine.
Great video and good comparison. Always puts a smile on my face when i see a new upload in my TH-cam feed. Would you consider doing a video with the Axe motor on the Mamba X vs the Castle motor? It would be interesting to know if the lack of punch and raw power is an ESC or motor trait with the Axe.
Yeah that’s on my mind, kinda wondering if the Axe motor will run like a normal non sensored motor would.
Have you tried the RX4 tekin or the new Spektrum Firma(made by HW)? I am trying to decide if I should go for a brushless setup in my next trail truck build, or just get a 1080 and a decent 5slot motor...
I have 2 trx4 and I already installed Mamba X in one of them, I am happy with the punch, speed and crawler capability but I found is very laud when I go indoor, I may gonna buy the Hobbywing for my second traxxas, seems to be "suuuuper" quite and very response on the slopes.
I wish the motor has more kv's.
Excellent review thank you.
Yeah I have the Axe in my TRX right now and it has just enough to get the job done and I love the control it gives, better control than the castle.
@@ExocagedRC .....
Great.... so, the Hobbywing Axe it is.
Thx.
I have an Axe combo myself. My only gripe is the mandatory drag brake. An option would be nice. As for it's crawling ability, I must say it is superb. The drag brake can be set from 50% to 200%. And the absolute golden silence, is its best feature. The gears in my TRX4 drown out any motor sounds that may be there. Since I can't stand that high pitch squeal. That sound that Holmes Revolver 14pole screams, driving nearby dogs, and me, absolutely crazy. Amen to that.
Nice to see Old videos..! Thanks for accept On FB..👌🏾
I’am in the build Of a SCX10 Pro kit, and i just Got the Mamba X WP 1406 Slate 2850kv system… And i look’s and feel’s so Nice..!!
Got the Axe system also and the Fusion Pro… But i Think i Will like the Mamba X system more😃
Hello @Exocaged, when you teardown your motor, do you remember where bronze washer was placed? On short side after/before springs? Or long side of rotor?
I try to keep them together in the original orientation. Sometimes I’ll take them off and set them on a table in the correct order.
I wish castle would change that on off switch, I like hobbywing as well in most cases, by the way your channel is one that I won't hit the unsubscribe button! Keep being real! Thanx
Castle is known for bad switches. Thank you for being a part of the channel, I really appreciate it.
That’s why I just cut it off and solder together.
Awesome video great comparison both system have their advantage so great job describing
Id like to see a review one the new Axe 550! Love your videos!
Thanks awesome video and congrats on the win
Hey
Thanks for all the content y you share
I wonder if you have any idea about my challenge
Hobywings esc (8s)
And castle motor
Can’t make them work …
Tried a lot of things but with no luck
They both working
Individually
However can’t coloberate them
( using traxx remote )
Great comparison, excellent upload man, taking notes
Could we see this topic revisited with a updated axe?
Hey just wondering but could you tell me what tires you are running?
Great job. Just got another sub.🤙🏻
@Exocaged RC what would you recommend for doing a bit of crawling and trail/bashing
Tim West I’d probably go with the Castle Mamba X for that.
Any updates from castle and axe f/w wise? I would like to support castle, but i want the best performance
one huge complaint for me about the AXE system is even with drag brake completely off the wheels don't free roll. If they made this a feature it would be a big improvement in my opinion. The mamba x has the nice ability to hook up that AUX wire and change whatever you want on the fly and I really like rockracer/crawler mode. However if I can get a free rolling feel from the axe I wouldn't mind using my app to change it even though it is still more cumbersome then the mamba x
Great video and thanks. The only thing I felt was missing was a price compaison? The hobbywing is clealry specialised for crawling and the Castle is an all round hard hitter.
Price is hard to get right at this point in time, Supposedly Hobbywing as reduced the price to $199 which is way better but I still see it listed for $250 and a few places do have it for $199, the Castle combo is right at $199 as well.
For creature comfort and noise, I give the axe the win. Now the R2 vs castle mamba/slate!! great video!
Have you tried tuning the mamba x with the settings john holmes shows in one of his videos? I tried it, and that enabled me to match the performance of the axe system when transitioning from uphill to downhill i.e coming over a crest and going down the other side. I can even get on throttle going downhill without it starting to freewheel.
Oh yeah I’ve done all the settings but the difference is the active hold of the axe vs relying on motor braking and gearing like the mamba x. I love the mamba x, I have about 5 of them in various scalers and usually run a lower drag brake setting so it’s not so abrupt, then use reverse to hold. Maybe I’ll get a chance to record again this weekend and if I do I’ll gear both systems down to 9t and just make it a braking test.
@Knut Roald, you can tell me the video link please, thank you in advance
@@ExocagedRC Definitely check out the new V2.06 firmware. Drag brake ramp was added so the drag brake doesn't slam on as hard when running higher percentages.
Oh really? I will give that a try thank you!
are not the a b & c standoffs for other motor aplications?
i wonder if the proprietary plug on the AXE is because of the FOC?
Would you recommend the Mamba Monster X for crawling with a super heavy trx4?
Mamba X would also be fine but if you have the Monster it would handle it easier but I doubt you'd ever have an issue with the smaller mamba X
One common thing with the Axe. If you don't run the esc motor mating procedure it will act wierd. ie Stalling Studdering and not running right. If you're having those issues with it be sure to run the self calibration / mating procedure. Power on once it goes through the beep codes hold the set button down for 3 seconds and it will start the process. Just make sure you have the motor out / transmission in neutral / or hold it up by the bumper. ( They do recommend having the motor out for it)
killer side by side. Thanks!
Здравствуйте, помогите пожалуйста советом. У меня ESC Hobbywing AXE 540 Foc, я обновил прошивку на 10.07.2019, теперь автомобиль не едет ни вперёд ни назад, а мотор, при нажатии на газ, греется как печка.
I'm going to purchase a HobbyWing Axe 540 2300Kv soon, for one of my crawlers, it's a perfect system for this use, the Mamba is multipurpose combo.
Juan Marichal yeah the Axe is all crawler, the Mamba X can run anything
The castle has a great esc but for crawling and being waterproof the ax is hands down on top of their game waterproof sensor cable that is a big plus when being in the water
I noticed with my mamba x slate combo was super loud now hearing urs i noticed it was just as loud now that axe is extremely quiet in comparison
everything is loud compared to the Axe
Great video. I am about to purchase a new Esc Motor combo. I’ve been debating between these two. In all around performance, what would you choose?
for all round performance go with the Castle Mamba X, if you need something bigger then get the Mamba Monster X, both of these esc's can run anything you want. rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FCastle-Creations-Mamba-X-1-10-Sensored-25-2v-WP-Esc-Waterproof-Speed-Control%2F381941631813%3Fepid%3D890100447%26hash%3Ditem58ed7ecb45%3Ag%3ADSsAAOSwVtZZ~6vI%3Asc%3AUSPSPriority!32068!US!-1%3Ark%3A1%3Apf%3A0&campid=5338273090&toolid=20008
I like how quiet the AXE was.
In low speeds it's virtually silent.
Hi, I would really appreciate if you could answer. I have AXE 2300 and overall I like it very much, but under load motor tends to overheat very fast (~10 min of intense constant crawling). My trx4 weights 5 kg and I'm wondering if that is the reason or there is something else which could cause that fast overheating? Could you please give your opinion on that issue? Thanks in advance.
Check the settings in the esc, make sure the timing is not advanced. What pinion gear are you using? Is it a sport or one of the trucks with a 2-speed?
@@ExocagedRC Thanks for the answer. I have normal Bronco with 2 speed, all default gears. What timing do you mean?
@@RedChiefAI timing setting in the esc, get the app to link to the esc with bluetooth and you can adjust a bunch of things. I run the same system in my new comp truck ( have a 5 part series on it ) I haven't had any heat issues at all with it.
@@ExocagedRC Just for the record, I've changed pinion to 9t and reset esc. So far it works well, although I still have some doubts how fast it would heat at high gear.
RedChiefAI it’s odd that you’re having the heat issues. It will run really slow but it may work out well. Good luck bud
Great comparison 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Oh....the Holmes-Hold on Castle-link will apply reverse as part of the drag-brake. So that feature with the AXE system isn't new.
But John has been trying to get Castle to use features the AXE has for many years. Tho , John doesn’t like 6-pole motors for his own reason.
I can't bash on the AXE...it seems like a cool system.
I’ve been tempted to get his brxl esc but at $109 it’s just so far out there in price from the Hobbywing 1080 I doubt it would help sell any. The Axe is a nice system but it just needs to be stronger.
@@ExocagedRC From what I've learned from John is a 6-pole(brushless)and a 5-armature(brushed)has smoother start-up but you lose alot of Torque to a comparable 4-pole(BL)and 3-armature motor.
He explained it and I somewhat understood. Best way I can dumb-it-down so I can retain it(haha)is when there's too many polarities going on in such a small space , they kind-of step on each other. Does that make sense?
I've read Bob's(Astroflight owner , well , he passed away awhile ago)book on the theory and principles on electronic motors and I have many Astroflight Pullmaster 2, 3 and 4. I loved to talk to him on the phone and just pick his brain. Anyway , They have way more armatures and magnets than any rc motors around today and are extremely torquay....but they do get hot on the trail. John expained heat to me too....stronger magnets create heat , so you just can't throw a super strong magnets into a motor...there has to be a balance.
The AXE doesn't have that "snap" because of the staggered poles but it helps start-up.
Awesome info thank you. I’ve talked with John at a previous USTE event and it was hard to keep up, the guy is a motor master for sure.
Hey EXO great informative videos always love'em. I was curious about your spur/pinion selection and ratio, I run several of the AXE systems as well as the HW 1080 with HH motors all at 5.5 or as close as I can get to that ratio as recommended by HH. Why did you select a lower ratio of near 4.0? Thanks.
In this video I just used the stock 11t pinion and left it in for the comp. on my axial based vehicles I usually gear at or just under stock but use a faster motor and 3s.
GREAT REVIEW!!! CHEERS!
You can clearly see how much smoother the hobbywing system is vs the castle. I have the 1200kv of the AXE combo and I love it. I had the 3800kv castle slate but sold it. It was awesome as well. They are different animals altogether. The hobbywing gets my vote for crawling/trailing.
Yeah the Axe has its merits for sure. I’ve run a 1250kv before and it was horrible slow for me so I sold it off quick.
Exocaged RC man my ascender is definitely slow with the 1200kv (about same wheelspeed as brushes 55t) but it has unbeatable “crawl” speed and control. I have never experienced any type of stalling either. I have not put a 3s battery in the truck but I’m sure it would be better when it comes to speed
I've not had the stalling issue yet either but I've seen many videos of them doing that. yeah I like the Axe and I've sent them info on how to make the motor better, the esc is fine, basically use up all that emtpy space in the can or build a legit 550 size for it.
you should try a better motor than the slate. I run either a holmes hobbies 2700kv or 4100kv puller pro and they both are dead smooth. That's a huge benefit of the castle system, custom motors plus so many stock choices.
Check out this video th-cam.com/video/QxIobffjAw0/w-d-xo.html
What are the three solder points lettered ABC for can't you just solder the motor wired to those just asking.
Yeah you can solder directly. To use the sensored function you must have the letters connected correctly. If the motor rotation is wrong you change it in the esc settings.
Man the castle is loud! I have an MMP is two of my rigs and it isn’t close to that loud. I also have an Axe is a rig and it is super quiet.
To clarify - the Mamba X also has bluetooth, but it's expensive to add on and it's only for iOS at the moment. It really does make things so much easier to tune.
yep, I have an iphone but I have yet to get the castle bluetooth piece.
How much does it cost?
The Castle Creations bluetooth link is about $46, here is a link to it rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FCastle-Creations-011013500-B-LINK-Bluetooth-Adapter%2F132615959837%3Fepid%3D20018601712%26hash%3Ditem1ee086f51d%3Ag%3AYgsAAOSwHvpa8jDD%3Ark%3A1%3Apf%3A0&campid=5338273090&toolid=20008
I am a castle fan for sure. But I would have to go with the axe. Just for how quite it is. The whine from the castle would drive me crazy.
I’m curious to know how you set up the mamba x. You didn’t go into details on esc set up. That alone makes a difference. You never talked about the aux wire or how you can set that up to adjust several different parameters
Yeah you’re right, it was just easier for me to screen shot the HW setup as I don’t have the Bluetooth for the castle. But drag brake was at 100, punch at 10, 100% forward 80% reverse. Then the bec and stuff like that. I should have mentioned the AUX wire for sure but just didn’t think of it at the time. I do think I mentioned the mamba x has more adjustable features though.
With punch set at 10% can make the esc feel soft on the bottom. Have you tried the firmware update for the mamba x?
@@norcallump4857 punch set at 10% is very little... the higher the number the more it limits... I think 10% is the lowest amount other than 0% which is just based off your batteries capabilities.
I'm really surprised hobby-wing made their brush-less system proprietary ,i mean their brushed systems,1080,and the 880 are awesome cheap units.Thanks for the comparison,i think i will stick tp my brushed systems.
it would be interesting to see how the sidewinders do. i have never seen them run. i feel like the mamba series is for bashing and high speed so for the mamba x to do what it did i feel like the that is a win for castle, but that axe is definitely a bit better for crawling
I’m looking for a 4s system for my rustler xl5 I’m doing something stupid crazy 😊
Love the scale mountain lion in the back ground. Even though it's probably a 1:5 size. Still cool though.
Thats a hard choice, both seem great
yeah but both have very different pros and cons
On the holmes site it looks like the axe has a horrible start up comparatively speaking but on here it looks better . Not sure if you were just not testing that but a smooth slow start up is definitely something to be considered
would the mamba x be a good choice to put in an axial scx III jeep along with a holmes hobbies 550 10t motor,. can i still run a spectrum rx?
Yeah that would run it well. If you’re not planning to go over 3S you can use the Hobbywing 1080 esc and save a few dollars
@@ExocagedRC Will the 550 fit with the engine cover?
mstang61 yes. I have a video showing the 550 size motor in the scx10iii
I think an Axe vs X and 3Brothers RC Kratos Six. I think those two motors would be testing "apples to apples" as far as staggered magnet motors.
Regardless....nice motor test.
A Puller Pro vs Castle motor using an X would be a good comparison also.
I've never had a Puller Pro or Revolver "creep" on me in first gear...they will in second but that's the way I have my X set-up.
Thank you. Yeah I can tell you the Kratos is strongest followed by castle and then the axe. The Axe motor could be limited by the esc and I’m tempted to see if it will run unsensored on a Mamba X for something in the future. The way the Axe applies power to hold vs just braking makes it better IMO, it holds best so long as the gearing is correct, you saw how it simply didn’t work in 2nd gear, the castle holds better in that situation. I have a revolver 1800kv and I’ve tested that in previous videos in the trx. I’d like to try the puller pro but just don’t have the funds right now to buy and test it.
Exocaged RC I'm in the process of testing the ACIS SIX staggered 6-pole non-sensored motor for 3Brothers RC. It's essentially the Kratos with no sensore board.
They shutter but I haven’t had them(them...meaning two , the 1200 and 3000kv)stall...and even unsensored they aren't jumpy.
I did a 3000kv test with the stock TRX4 11-tooth and it's up here on TH-cam. Tom Asher thought it was good , so he sent me an 8-tooth pinion to test it again.
But I'm going to redo the 1200kv test before I put the 3000kv ACIS back in. The 3000kv seems to have just as much control as the 1200.
Another great test would be a 1400kv Revolver vs the 1200kv ACIS SIX.
My fund's aren't as big as they use to be now that I've retired but I'm comfortable. Just that I'm spending the extra $ on my wife dune buggy at the moment.
I have his 4600kv in a Rustler and it’s good but gets a bit hot on 3S. I haven’t put it in the trx yet.
@@ExocagedRC What is your Drag Brake setting on the AXE? becuase my TRX4 holds in second gear with the stock 11t pinion and I have it at the stock 80%. Since I got the Bronco I haven´t had the need to switch to 1st gear that often I am using it as it was a "true scaler" in which you start to climb wait until it bogs down and switch to first then if it diffs out lock the diffs and repeat…
But the AXE System has been relentless it will park on 2nd gear EASILY and it will climb with ease.
For reference I am running firmware 01-00.1.12
Good comparison IMO
Спасибо Большое за видео 👍👍👍👍👍. Посоветуйте пожалуйста для Трофи модели что лучше купить Hobbywing AXE или Mamba X?
It depends on what you want, the Hobbywing axe is smooth and quiet and great for scalers. If you’re talkinba trophy race truck then the Axe is not what you want. The Mamba X is much better for that style of fast truck. If you really plan to push the truck hard you may want to consider the Castle Mamba Monster X.
@@ExocagedRC У меня Vaterra Ford Bronco, я хотел бы ездить по грязи, по снегу, участвовать в трофи соревнованиях.
How does the Tekin RX4/Roc412 HD compare to the Hobbywing Axe?
I like the ROC motors but am not a fan of the RX4. I don’t have an rx4 in any of my trucks because if I go with a conventional esc, I’ll choose the castle Mamba X for the AUX wire features.
Aux wire feature? The rx4 has remote drag brake
Hey. Excellent video. I'm still figuring out my power system … I'm looking to build a trail truck, but it's going to see mud for sure. Can you explain to me why the Axe is a poor choice for that?
I did a water test with the axe and it did fine but the overall power output of the Axe is very limited as compared to the Mamba X, if you're planning for trail and mud the mamba X is your choice with the 2850kv or even the 3800kv if you really want to get wild.
Exocaged RC Thank you. Any opinion on the Kratos 6 Pole Sensored?
I have videos on the Kratos motor you're asking about, so far its the strongest scaler motor I've ever run.
Exocaged RC thanks so much. Last question - and I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out. What are your feelings on how waterproof the kratos is? The event I am building for will end up with mud bogging and probably full immersion at least a few times.
I know they are available with extra waterproofing ... if you were me would you go that route?
I really like it and have a video showing the Kratos, th-cam.com/video/CI8M47lJ8dI/w-d-xo.html
Nice video.... It Seems like every question I have...u've done a video for it LOLOLOL
GREAT REVIEW THINK IM GOIN WITH THE WING 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
The cat caught the Hobbywing too late, so quiet!
please do a fusion vs axe video
good video👍👍
Das Video ist Klasse ! Gruß aus München Germany von Volker .
Thank you
Danke
The build in bluetooth is a huge plus für hobbywing in my opinion.
The only time I've had problems with stalling the axe system is when there's no load on it. Such as flat ground or on my work bench with the tires off the ground. Even then it's only happened a few times. Great system.
It stalled with no load? I’ve only seen it stalled when pushing a wall or hard ledge.
Exocaged RC I didn't get that either.
Maybe he didn’t proof read it...I do that haft the time.
Yeah when it's on my stand wheels turning it's stalled on me a few time with no load on it. I knew what I was writing lol . when I was running it on a course it stalled a couple times with the bec at 7.4 volts for my savox. Since I put an outside bec it's only stalled once...
Still 250$ should be perfection
@@stpbasss3773 $199 black Friday deal. Plus they dropped the price to $199 last week.
Hobbywing seems to have more torque it appeared to stall a lot less than the castle
Id pic the one that doesn't make that horrible sound , can you turn it off ?
I wish I could turn the PWM up to quieten the Castle, they are noisy
I want to Axe 1800kv use to traction hobby founder f150. Is it possible?
In my opinion, you'd be better off with a Castle Mamba X and their 2280kv motor. The Axe is nice but it simply doesn't put out the torque that vehicle needs and you may have a stalling issue. So I would use the Castle for it.
@@ExocagedRC I useally tracking and go to mountain. If i dont need to speed, use axe is great?
@@ExocagedRC i m newbe . . . Plz answer to me
If you don’t need any speed then perhaps the Axe would be ok, I still think it would be too weak but get the 2300kv version so you can gear it down a few teeth and still be ok. You’ll want to use a 3S battery.
@@ExocagedRC okey thanku v much!!!
Hi, may I ask You to do the similar review/comparison fo Mamba Monster X and HW Max8 in terms of monster truck? I have the e-revo 2.0 and I would like to change at least the ESC, maybe even ESC + motor but I am still wondering what will be better for bashing. I also need to keep in mind that my little Son is playing with e-revo so (as far as I know) MMX is a better choice because of a "max throttle adjustment" feature (or maybe Max8 also have it?) but I heard from people that HW has a better quality. What do You Guys think about MMX/HW quality? In my country, there is a really poor RC market and I need to take the less breakable ESC to avoid many weeks of waiting for replacement/repairment etc. @Exocaged RC - I appreciate if You could do such a professional video like this one but for bashers :D
Daniel noname I can already tell you what esc you need. You need to get a Hobbywing Max6 esc. I had one in my erevo 2.0 and I have one in my UDR and in other vehicles. The Max6 is a very reliable esc and it runs smooth. No heat issues and it’s capable to 8S so 6S won’t be an issue at all. I appreciate you watching my videos. Check my channel for erevo 2.0 to see videos of it with the Max6.
@@ExocagedRC wow, You suprised me a lot, I see that nobody likes Castle :D thank You very much for advise, in that case I need to dive deeper into the HW. According to my needs, are You aware of the possibility to limit the speed? I really need it to let my Son have fun as well...
Daniel noname I love castle stuff but for the erevo I like the Max6. I have quite a few castle systems in several trucks. It really depends on what the truck is meant to do. On the speed, go to ch2 on the transmitter and turn the epa down to about 50 in both directions.
@@ExocagedRC could You please clarify this transmiter part? I do not know what does it mean, I have the common transmiter from Traxxas, this TQI which is attached to the e-revo box.
Why did they discontinue the axe
They just came out with an R2 version thats stonger and has normal drive function.
@@ExocagedRC so it would be good for my trx4 sport? Can it crawl super slow?
bigger is not always better it depends on what the motor was designed for,
I do like how castle sounds....
you like your RC cars to make a high pitched screaming sound? what other weird shit are you into?
Why didn't you tune the mamba x drag break and show that...
It was at 100% and there was no comparison between how the Axe holds and the mamba drifts.
@@ExocagedRC I was about to say that they have the "213% Crawler Brake" mode but looks like they removed it in favor of the new drag brake ramp setting, oh well.
yeah no more 213% its simply 100% now
Im guessing those people that are having it stall must be gearing it too high
Gearing is very important, this is not a basher setup as it has its limits where the Castle doesn’t really have any.
I havent seen one Stall? but I also havent seen any other brushless system out there with the ability to park either.. Neither Castle or Holmes for that matter, Probably not the end of the world to many but at least for me is a no sale if the thing only has torque when on power.
cute cat !!
I'd choose the axe just because of the sound. That mamba would drive me nuts with all the high pitch whining
The axe is smoother than the castle, I really think the axe is the better system for the trx.
From what I’ve seen from the new axe it doesn’t stall out
yeah they've updated quite a few things since this video was made.
@@ExocagedRC Do you know if castle have updated theirs to remove the whine?
But mamba x have romote drag brake. This is amazing teature for rock racers and more
You are right and yes that aux wire and what it can do is awesome
That feature alone makes the X way ahead of the rest.
@@ExocagedRC my wroncho's mamba x is set with a 3 position switch soft on drag brake
full drag break
and no drag brake for going fast.all from the aux wire with cheaper motor works good until I put a holmes puller pro stubby in it
Cats love rcs lmao. I play with the neighborhood kittys with my cars
Yeah whenever I’m outside messing around they just appear out of nowhere.
Hobby wing definitely smoother and quieter.
the axe is also meant for crawlers
I think i will get the axe 3300kv system
I’d do the momba x with the homies hobbies 3500 puller pro
That’s a great combo for sure
Seen you review on it great motor and esc combo thanks buddy👍🏻
Kirk Leaman that’s one combo I’m thinking about putting in my trx4. Hows the low speed control? What pinion are you running?
One of the other motors I’m looking at is the 3 brothers 3800kv
That is not a fair comparison.. you have to do a (mamba x) vs (hobbywing max) systems
Addie Fry this is about crawlers. Only the HW Axe is any good for crawlers. The other HW esc’s have never impressed me at all in a crawler.
Cant beat a mumba x bro i run that castle 2280 and mumbax in my bronco mumba x for the win
I have the mamba X
Yep me too. Awesome esc
Holmes Hobbies puller Pro vs. Mamba X
I don’t have anything from Holmes I can test.
Puller pro is a motor, Mamba x is an ESC.
If your stuck with a proprietory motor plug and you say that your stuck with that motor. What are those three terminals used for. I think you need to research a little more. Those terminals look like you can add a different motor to the ESC.
Oops I stand to be corrected. Sorry my bad. It’s the sensor that’s proprietory not the motor.
#Hobbywing
Hobbywing for me and so quiet
Only 13mph with the 2280