pop music is a perfect example. there’s some artists who sing about some real shit, and have good ass voices, but if you don’t fit the aesthetic or “look the part”, you won’t get the time of day (maybe you’ll win a grammy that everyone shits all over if you’re lucky). i can’t stand the radio shit. i’m a hip hop head. i know this firsthand. 99% of the mainstream absolutely sucks, while the actual talent gets no recognition or respect. it’s awful.
I'll take today's mediocre music over the bullshit I used to like. I used to be curious about music of decades and centuries ago. What young person (even in the late 90s/2000s) would be like me? I used to curious and have a passion for anything before...the 1950s. Recently, I took a long, hard look at all that antique shit. No wonder goth and alternative people like me. Never again.
"Her music is generic, bland and overused" That's exactly why she's so popular, people are basic nowadays. Harry styles isnt any different, his music sounds like forgettable commercial music
True, even Drake and Eminem are overrated and basic at best but guys glorify them lol I like Taylor Swift because she a good songwriter and I guess "storyteller". Not to mention she's not as problematic as Drake or the bald old white dude. She's only in drama because people attack her for no reason, so she claps back.
@@AntiStraightMaleSociety Eminem is not though. There's a big difference between him and Drake. Edit: just read more carefully your username. Now I know the reason why you like Taylor Swift.
@@Julia_imbored it’s not just about writing music. Radiohead is a fantastic band that MAKES music. Taylor Swift makes mediocre music that sells. She uses the same chord progressions in every song. She is not a musician. She is a businesswoman
Im sitting in an office full of swifties on the day her new album dropped and they are playing it on the office tv. They're like "oh this is the greatest." I am just thankful for headphones.
Taylor isn’t even a bad artist. But her fans who claim “she’s THE music industry” clearly don’t listen to a lot of music. I’m sorry if Taylor Swift is your impression of the best of the best within the music industry than you clearly don’t listen to a lot of music.
@@UncrownedGlobe3 agreed. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not the biggest fan of Taylor…but when she makes a damn good song, it’s a DAMN good song. It’s just I feel a lot of her audience has never branched out into any other genres besides pop/folk pop. Like I had an argument one time in high school with a swiftie because they said Kendrick Lamar (referring to the Bad Blood song) was terrible and irrelevant. I was shocked, this is the dude who gave us To Pimp A Butterfly and then a year later after Bad Blood received a Pulitzer Prize for his rap music in his Damn album. How is he irrelevant when compared to Taylor? You don’t have to like rap music but to say Kendrick is irrelevant???
@@kimmy2631 I mean she can break all the records she wants. But to say she encompasses the entirety of the music industry is a flat out joke. I like Taylor, but a lot of other artists could perform her music with ease, could she perform others artists’s music with the same level of ease?…probably not. Many may disagree but thats how I feel.
@Jessie my two personal favorite artists of all time are Kendrick Lamar, Childish Gambino, Prince (legend), and I really like the writing style of Matty Healy of the 1975 although I am no longer as huge of a fan as I used to be.
Honestly I've never understood this Taylor Swift hype. She's not necessarily a bad musician at least she can play guitar and write her own songs I grant her that. But she's way overhyped at this point. People act like she's the second coming of Jesus Christ. Commercially speaking Taylor is extremely successful yes but she's no Aretha Franklin, Ella Fitzgerald, Etta James, Janis Joplin, Joan Baez, Joni Mitchell, Dolly Parton, Tracy Chapman, Melody Gardot or Amy Winehouse artistically speaking.
@@thatrainyboy1670 I don't know. One single word like in this case 𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘭𝘭 isn't really meaningful, there's no proper context. I had to translate it because English isn't my native language. Upon that translation I figured it was meant in a more negative way. Unfortunately I can't see the 2nd reply because YT doesn't let me.
Probably because of social media and algorithm. If you listen to a certain style you get recommended the same style over and over again. So many of these younger fans are stuck in echo chambers of bad music. Especially if it's highly commercialized.
@@rickmerritt128 good music is subjectives. Most people just have preferences. Even dogs could appreciate what some people considered good music. Not all preference applies to what is consider unique, deep, technical or innovative.
@@CrimsonEclipse so with your logic, there is no such thing as good or bad and talent doesn't fit into the equation nor does skill or musicianship or the effort to create thoughtful intelligent craft? Usually it will reveal itself as evident or in a form of an axiom. There are two kinds of music. Good and bad with some range of gray area as to how bad or how good.
@@rickmerritt128 I would agree there is a different between good or bad music and some grey in between. But good and bad depends on the audience. But soley on intelligence alone you can't determine if they appreciate good music or not. Like even babies and animals appreciate music from the greats. But hey you said you got to have some intelligence to appreciate good music. Almost all creatures has some intelligence in them. The subjectives nature of good music is the same as any art form. It's either good technically or invoke deep emotional feelings. There is either technically good or emotionally good. But the emotional part depends on who can relate to the subject.
Taylor Swift is a glorified model and actress with a teenagers view of life . She looks amazing in all the videos dressed to the nines . But her music is such a bland diet of same old notes ad infinitum. The lyrics are nothing I relate to. But Im a child of the 50 s and sixties .
I thought this video would be a legit criticism but 2 mins into being "hip and cool and only women/girls like them" 🙄; it is just another unjustified and irrational take on an artist. Nickelback was mediocre, but they are not the worst band. People here acting like Nickelback burned an orphanage or was involved shooting civilians.🙄 Taylor is overrated yeah, but she's not without talent. This video and everybody should have zoomed in on the 4-chord curse and annoying pop trends, but ye girls/women/uncool people are not allowed to like anything.
I think that the big difference between Taylor Swift and other artists is that Taylor Swift is dominating in every aspect in the music industry. From physical sales, digital sales, streaming number, chart success, critically acclaimed, breaking records, awards, touring, intellectual property (master of music catalogue & publishing records), and the most important things is loyal fanbase. So many “die hard” Taylor Swift fans are not only stay for her music but also because of her character (keep being humble and relatable). I think She treats her fans the best among other artists because she has genuine concern to her fans. Taylor Swift main forte is her songwriting. She is not the best vocalist compared other singers out there, but she is amazing with her craft. And she is a savvy business women in the music industry. She is the risk takers and so damn intelligent with her business ownership. There is a great video from “Rap Chanel” that explained Why Taylor Swift is Winning. Taylor’s forte are mainly her songwriting and story telling. They have their own story and narrative, it’s basic knowledge. I’ll give you some facts, Across Taylor’s discography (>200 songs), she accomplished more than 30% credited for the percentage of songs written solely by her, the highest percentage of the mainstream artists of her generation followed by Ed Sheeran (15.2%) and Adele (14.5%), in fact Taylor Swift is the most successful songwriter of her generation according to Billboard and other music experts both critically and commercially. The motive and theme of her songs are majority about the complexity of the relationship, about her lover, her ex, her parents, her family, her friends, her band, her fans, her haters and her cats. Her latest project that is album sisters called “folklore” and “evermore” took inspiration from fictional character with little snippet of her story life and talked about Mental Health, Child abuse, World War 2, PTSD, Pandemic, Infidelity, The Last Great American Dynasty (Her House) and so on. In conclusion, this video is trash. Clearly you are just an ignorant old hag. How come you just trying to call out Taylor for doing her job and not for the other artists? Is this how you cry of jealousy of her success or your internal sexism/misogyny? You’re just idiot, pathetic! Clearly you are trying to under cut Taylor success but At the end of the day, Taylor doesn’t need validation from a random coward, ignorant and a bully like you. I pity you, are you ok? Who hurt you? Get some help! You guys are just a bunch of hater, ignorant and a coward. Do your own research! Pathetic 🤧💀
@@romirosta1917 I'm allowed to hold my views though. There's no point in trying to convert someone to become a TS fan if we don't want to be one. BTW I didn't read a word that you wrote because you're going on tangents and sticking up for an environmental criminal. She could solve world hunger with her money so I don't see this woman as a saint. Do I support female artists? 100%, but there are others (Katy Perry, Rihanna, etc.) who are better role models so I listen to their music.
@@CharlotteForbes What kind a horse shit, SMH. Are you allergic with hospitality, empathy and kindness? Are those words foreign language to you? Again, Taylor doesn't need validation from a random coward, ignorant and a bully like you. Who hurt you boo? Go get some help please 🧣
@@charlotteforbes2090 Everything you guys did was a choice, right??? Free speech, right??? Well, even free speech comes with an invoice. As the Elders use to say, "Don't let your mouth write a check, that your a$$ can't cash!!!" This is internet, ffs. So if you mentioned Taylor Swift, be prepare! 🤧💀
People even compare her with paul McCartney lmao Dude pioneered more than 15 music genres, all taylor swift did was make a toxic fanbase who thinks they are superior
@@GabrielBacon Someone of such popularity should either be revolutionary or atleast provide an entertaining spin on the existing convention, Mccartney satisfies both and very importantly, is both a good songwriter and an excellent musician. Taylor swift can make songs but in terms of the music in her songs its often boring and unimpressive, furthermore she as a thirty something superstar cant even compare to a teenage paul mccartney who wrote songs like Michelle or Yesterday.
LOL @ "baby food." LOLOLOLOL!!! I'd call opera a lasagna, manicotti, or anything with Ricotta cheese. Classic Rock (Varies), symphonies (an _ course meal). Not every one likes fancy, elaborate shit.
@@NaticzkaKaminskaHenryDolphin Taylor Swift = fast food. The alternative = fancy, sit down, expensive restaurant. Not everyone has the time, patience, love, loyalty, etc. for one.
Todays pop music sucks. And that Gen Z doesn’t notice it especially when they listen to 60s 70s and 80s songs on the radio or at the movies is spooky. Take the top 20 from each year since 1999 and compare it with any other year in the US billboard charts. From 1960 till 1993. It‘s not comparable.
I’m gen z and hate Taylor swift. I’m hardcore Radiohead fan and other bands of the 90s and 80s and 70s. There are still a lot gen z that listens to music like me. You just don’t find them often:)
She's not an artist A business woman When she was a country singer which I liked, she wasn't this popular with young audience (I was like 12 when i heard love story & liked it) So she followed the trend & made it in no time & yes, she's overrated
Then explain why 30 year olds go to her concerts??? Some y’all are so brain dead that you can’t seem to understand music is subjective to each individual. This video is nothing but some 25 year old crying that Taylor has more impact than his flop fav, to that I say KEEP CRYING LMAOOOO.
Same! I loved the country songs and then she shifts to pop and now I dislike the songs she created because now the songs are just boring and full or random lyrics. But that’s my opinion.
She is obviously a business woman first. Even her parents said they raised her with business in mind which is why they named her a gender neutral name. Both her parents have business backgrounds and her mom before becoming a stay at home mom was an advertisement manager. Her mom played a huge part as her manager and marketing her persona. Taylor Swift's whole entire life was literally a business investments by her parents. Her parents wanted her to be famous they paid for singing and acting classes by flying her to NY when she was like 10 years old and even hired a talent manager to help get her gigs. She was a child model and turn singer. Her parents been trying to get her recording deals for years but apparently in NY it's illegal for underage minors to be signed to a record label without a court order. Why else they decided to target Nashville, Tennessee music industry instead? Apparently her old manager tried to sue her and her parents because they fired him after the manager helped them with negotiation with Scott Borchetta owner of Big Machine. Before Taylor Swift and her parents signed any paperwork they fired the manager just to saved on 10% commissions on whatever she will earn from Big Machine. Scott Swift(Taylor' dad) also invested $300k with Big Machine as well so he play a huge part in how Taylor's signing with Big Machine. Even till today her parents are by her side helping with managing and negotiations.
Couldn't agree more. The 90s where by far the greatest decade, nearly everything literally peaked that decade, except for TV shows which peaked in the 2000s. Great music, where many different genres pushed the envelope compared to previous generation. Fantastic movies including the Disney renaissance, animated shows, video games, sitcoms etc, you name it.
Music still speaks and is innovative, you just have to do your research and find the right artists, not simply turn on your radio and base your judgement upon that single experience
I feel like older artist had a certain level of respect, passion, maturity, and humility. They understood the world on a deeper level than today’s artist. Most artist of today are selfish and bratty. They make music to sell their image and their fans love it.
That's how Hollywood and US-based record labels do it since time immemorial. It's not about the talent. As long as the artist's image sells a lot to a very wide scope of demographics and it generates money, that philosophy will always continue. Money. money. money.
You mean for example the iconic pedophile David Bowie? So respectful and human of him to sleep with several teens in his 40ts but Taylor swift isn’t human or respectful because she is mainstream
I agree with most of what you’re saying but Beyonces old school stuff is definitely played a lot by different groups, even young men will vibe out to her music wherever it’s being played at.
Quincy Jones, one of the greatest music producers of all time, said that if a singer's voice isn't recognizable in five seconds, they'll never become a star. So what's with Taylor Swift? I still have to be reminded by the DJ that Swift is playing on the radio. Between her bland voice and her bland music, her supposedly great lyrics are completely lost.
You only heard Shake It Off and her singles. You should listen to Folklore and Evermore if you want to hear her great lyrics! Trust me, when you hear Tolerate It, it’s like heaven!
@@marirester I mainly listen to folk music, and yet I can't with her wannabe-albums. Those 2 albums were actually the final nail in the coffin for me to stop listen to her product
YES. Been saying for years her and some artist like her are the "Wal-Mart" of the music industry. McDonald's is the perfect analogy. If you want the big Mac value meal, order "tortured poets department" , if you want the happy meal, order "1989" lol.....
1) She's normal pretty with good styling. 2) I think she might have become a song writer behind the scenes if she had become less pretty, but I don't know enough about the career path to compare it to her real one
She looks like a man and I'm half convinced schizos are right about her being a man, and it has nothing to do with her being tall because I'm pretty sure I'm taller than her or whatever taylor swift is. The whole vibe gives off Napoleon Dynamite to me.
i don’t agree with the beyoncé being used as an example, ive seen her have a pretty diverse listening group as it’s typically older men who like r&b enjoy listening to beyoncé especially her older music
I don't like Taylor Swift's music because of how generic everything sounds and feels but I have to hand it to her she is a master at marketing and clout building. She is literally the most commercialized artist out there with the most trademarks out of any other artists in the world. Any controversy she is involved in always is like a ployed to sell something. From her love life to whatever scandals she was associated with. She has been famous for throwing easter eggs at her fans related to her personal life through her music. Many of her fans can't separate her music from her personal life and tried to decode every songs to figure out her life. She make them want to know more about her personal life, love life, dramas, etc. by having her fans buy and listen to her songs. Because they just want juice about her personal dramas they become addicted to it. She will go to the media leave bread crumbs and be vague about something and her fans go listen to her songs to figure it out. I have to admit lyrically she is a genius because she plays with the audience and pull them in to her life dramas. But musically her sounds and beat is super generic and nothing special. Most of her co-writers and producers who actually produce her sounds are already mainstreams successful with many A-list artists that were famous before her. She had producers and song writers who worked with Brittany Spears, Backstreet boys, Celine Dion, Katy Perry, etc. the list goes on. She is such a master at marketing and most people wouldn't even notice it's all a marketing ploy. Even with her masters albums controversy and her rerecording. She saved hundreds of millions of dollars by not buying her masters and gain hundreds of millions of dollars selling her rerecorded albums and with the help of the controversy she was able to promote her rerecorded to be commercially successful and hitting number 1 during it's debut. Most rerecording aren't this successful because most fans already owns the music and heard it before. Also she obviously lied and over exaggerated the situation to help promote her rerecording. She could buy her masters in cold hard cash. She had been offered to buy her masters multiple times by different owners but it will put an huge dent in her pockets because it's sold last for $300 millions. Taylor Swift would need to take out a huge investment loans to buy her masters just like Scooter Braun who by the way is a Billionaire. Her net worth $740 millions is not physically available cash assets but all her assets combine from her properties, investments, and any other assets in her portfolio. Also if she owns her masters she wouldn't be able to make her money back fast enough because the people who currently owns her masters are losing money in them because the made a poor investment. Those albums been out for over a decade and slowed down in sales. Making this whole thing about buy "Taylor's Version" is the righteous thing to do and how she is the little artist fighting the Big Machine/music industry. She turned anyone who owns her masters as a public villian is devious and ingenious because they are worth more to her as villians than friends. But hey it's not the first time she publicly turn someone into a villian for her own personal sells benefits. She still earns royalties from her masters albums because she technically owns the music composition of those album music. Why else she was allowed to rerecord her albums? Why else she was allowed to play all her music from those albums in her Eras tour. She literally said she was worried she can't play her music in her concerts anymore which in fact false. She owns her music just not the Big Machine Studio recordings of it. But hey the average person doesn't know this and will believe what's told to them. Too me Taylor Swift is a reality TV star of the music industry. People care more about her personal life more than her music. Why else people still talk about all her Exes from a decade ago.
"she is a master at marketing"....not really, that's what her marketing mechanism is for. Have you ever heard her try to converse? She's a blank slate.
@@pretorious700 what are you even talking about? How is she a blank slate? She has been in the industry for almost 2 decades. That's beyond a blank slate.
I dont even take that much issue with the stale chord progressions. I just find her songs to be dull and undynamic, the vocals in particular. At no point do i feel she is baring her soul.
I'll point this out again...take a look at older songs, and their lyrics. What do you notice? What do you hear? Try Faust on for size. That opera is about selling your soul to the devil. I was told by my poetry and lit teacher (10 years ago), that some of the best works are "written on the dark side." On some levels, yes, but not many.
@@mrnasty02106 but that is art. And talented artist. There is good stuff out there today. Much of it being made by artists in their 70's. A lot of the new stuff can't even be honestly called music. It takes talent to produce good songs and interesting music.
@@rickmerritt128 I get that. My problem is, when you have too much of it (talent). You create some ugly and nasty sounding shit. Look at my playlists. All shit I used to like. I'm glad I snapped out of my alternative nerd phase. Couldn't take it anymore.
Almost every Taylor Swift song sounds like the one you hear in Evangelical Protetestant worship stadiums. Yeah, that overused "inspirational" chord. However her hit "Safe and Sound" is one of my guilty pleasures.
the problem with taylor is she doesn't have a deep musical talent or identity, so the sound of her songs just solely rely on whatever producer(s) she's working with and their musical identity. it's like with "safe and sound" that song isn't a taylor swift song as much as it's just a civil wars song that she's singing/writing over. just like her albums folklore and evermore. i really enjoyed both of these albums but they weren't her own original sound, they were just aaron dessner and the national making songs for taylor swift that she wrote lyrics to. as much as i enjoy her on a simple level (as i was a young teen when she came onto the scene), i've never liked that she never was a great musician/artist especially for how much we're told she is and especially as time as gone on. i get she was great for us young girls when she was also a young girl, but she's 33 now and been a top professional songwriter for nearly 2 decades and she hasn't progressed as a musician and if anything she's regressed and overwrites. someone like sara bareilles to me is a far superior lyricist, vocalist, and musician yet probably most swifties don't even know who she is.
I'm not religious, but I have an idea of what you're talking about. As far I'm concerned, it shows some progress in worship music. It's less offensive than the countless "hymns and psalms," of centuries past.
I’m going to approach this from my perspective as a musician who has played guitar for over 33 years, and who has a high degree of technical proficiency on the instrument, albeit in a totally different genre of music. I’m also not a fan but I can objectively comment as an outsider with a young daughter who listens to this type of pop, so I’m exposed to it. Her success lies in her perceived relatability, particularly with young women, as it pertains to what a lot of her songs are about, many focused on men and or relationship issues etc. Also, she started out with this girl with an acoustic guitar vibe who sang average, and was not at a Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, or even Ariana Grande level of vocal virtuosity. I’m a musician myself, but in hard rock and metal, and the least successful acts in that genre, by and large, are those with high degrees of technical virtuosity. The general public, who are not musicians, or aspiring to be musicians, want to be entertained. They don’t care about technical ability because 1) they can’t relate to it, 2) if they aspire to be musicians, reaching Ariana Grande vocal ability is out of reach for many people; someone like Taylor gives them hope and a level of assurance they might be able to do that, and her success reinforces that. Look I’m not a fan of hers either, but u have to put yourself in the position of say a 22 year female as an example and what sensibilities appeal to them. Taylor, for a variety of reasons, tapped into that. I’m sure the social media world we live in now played a role than if this was 1986, which was my childhood, but it was a much different era in how music was taken in. I’ll give you another example…there is a video of The Weeknd & Ariana Grande duetting on a song live on TV, it was his song, and she killed it. But many of the comments under the video were “she’s over singing, showing off technical ability, and she’s not serving his song”….now, I thought she did great, but that’s my view as a musician….the general public can only handle virtuosity to a degree before they find it showboating. I’ve had the same criticism directed at me for the same reason. The difference is, I never aspired to reach those career heights. The music is what I cared about…but you have to understand that mass appeal isn’t always going to be a Whitney Houston level talent vocally. The general public doesn’t care about that.
Yes sir i totally agree with your opinion. I am from India and if you listen to any bollywood songs from the 60s , 70s you'll see how much effort they used to put in their singing and their music. They used to have a great tone , range , vocal ability and many more things. Nowadays mainstream singers sings like they are just mumbling with lyrics that are just repetitive and boring. I aspire to be a singer and i won't brag but i am a pretty good one but people just aren't listening to vocally great songs nowadays. I'll give you an example , please listen to this song from the 50s named ' Mere Mehboob Qayamat Hogi ' it's not even the best song vocally from that era but it was a cult classic everything from singing, music, lyrics were absolutely phenomenal , and then listen to ' maan meri jaan ' which is the most famous Indian song of 2022. You'll know the difference between them. I just hope people will stop listening to those autotuned vocals and digitally produced sounds and actually listen to something good.
I think that the big difference between Taylor Swift and other artists is that Taylor Swift is dominating in every aspect in the music industry. From physical sales, digital sales, streaming number, chart success, critically acclaimed, breaking records, awards, touring, intellectual property (master of music catalogue & publishing records), and the most important things is loyal fanbase. So many “die hard” Taylor Swift fans are not only stay for her music but also because of her character (keep being humble and relatable). I think She treats her fans the best among other artists because she has genuine concern to her fans. Taylor Swift main forte is her songwriting. She is not the best vocalist compared other singers out there, but she is amazing with her craft. And she is a savvy business women in the music industry. She is the risk takers and so damn intelligent with her business ownership. There is a great video from “Rap Chanel” that explained Why Taylor Swift is Winning. Taylor’s forte are mainly her songwriting and story telling. They have their own story and narrative, it’s basic knowledge. I’ll give you some facts, Across Taylor’s discography (>200 songs), she accomplished more than 30% credited for the percentage of songs written solely by her, the highest percentage of the mainstream artists of her generation followed by Ed Sheeran (15.2%) and Adele (14.5%), in fact Taylor Swift is the most successful songwriter of her generation according to Billboard and other music experts both critically and commercially. The motive and theme of her songs are majority about the complexity of the relationship, about her lover, her ex, her parents, her family, her friends, her band, her fans, her haters and her cats. Her latest project that is album sisters called “folklore” and “evermore” took inspiration from fictional character with little snippet of her story life and talked about Mental Health, Child abuse, World War 2, PTSD, Pandemic, Infidelity, The Last Great American Dynasty (Her House) and so on.
Taylor Swift is not taltented in anyway. Her music is simply boring, or meaningless. Sometimes I think she was brought up by a bunch of established musical elites who sponsored her to make more money. That's all.
the general public can only handle virtuosity to a degree before they find it showboating. Yup, unless you can hit those emotional notes that honestly give the song character and feel.
Girls are very tribal and Swift provides them with simple group chants. Also, Swift is a blank canvas that young women can project themselves onto. She is a sort of plastic doll. She is almost asexual. Swift has also come to symbolize girls getting everything they want. In that sense, she is the current version of Madonna. I think that Swift has worked the audience and industry brilliantly but I find her cold, calculating and empty. Her lyrics resonate with young girls but her music is bland to the point of being painful to listen to.
When you played the sample four chord progression, my mind immediately responded, "She's just a country girl, living in a lonely world. She took the midnight train going any where."
Well when she has the most AMAS awards and has 11 Grammys and breaks records and has made her stance on the modern culture. She ain’t the country girl anymore. It’s not 2006.
@@Error_-ct2vp literally your comment is irrelevant to what they were saying. They were just saying how a melody came to their mind after the sample of four chords . Then again, I don’t expect reading comprehension from a Taylor Swift fan. Also her having 11 grammy’s means Jack Shit because guess what? For years the grammy’s have been know for being biased and pushing artists that fit their agendas. So Taylor winning 11 Grammy’s isn’t really a noteworthy accomplishment since we know the grammy’s will snub people and not give the award to people who truly were the people’s pick. Kendrick Lamar lost to Macklemore. That’s the only evidence you fucking need. Taylor winning 11 Grammy’s amounts to nothing except proof she just has ties and connections to really high up people.
Sorry but why is there no video for Ed Sheeran ( I like him and his music) when the man literally said on video he uses THE SAME 4 CHORDS to make every single on of his songs yet here we are again with another video bashing Taylor who doesn't actually use the same 4 chords/ template for all of her songs!? Also she doesn't produce all of her songs solo and usually does have other people working with her creating the sounds and in the song writing and production process with her. the only 2 songs of hers which sound similar are The Story Of Us (TV) and Better Than Revenge (TV) but at the same time even though they sound the same they have different feels and emotions projected through the sounds which makes it that more enjoyable! And overall there is no real genre or definition for "modern music" because it will always as a whole be the music from all corners of the planet to shape the industry into what it is today and no 1 artist should be soloed out at a time to give reason on why it supposedly "sucks" (We all have our own tastes and that's it, people should just like what they like and if they don't like someone else's sound or style for music then no need to go commenting or anything if you think about it as it really is just pointless too)
What's weird is that media that is indie (indie video games, european movies underground/foreign music, etc.) is automatically good most of the time, whereas popular media (AAA video games, Hollywood movies, pop music, etc.) is bad most of the time.
Oh please There's plenty of older music older art older movies older TV and older Comics that suck too Gravity Falls and demon slayer blows 80s Thundercats and heman out of the water. And Kendrick Lamars music is superior to The Beatles music. Also a lot of Japanese anime manga blows older comics and newer comics out of the water too. just because something is newer doesn't mean it sucks and just because something is older doesn't mean it sucks either it's called opinions
@@kittenscratchanimeart oh please most Japanese AAA games blow indie games out of the water. most indie games are low budget shovelware crap Japanese Triple A's have a ton of work put into them Persona 5 Royal and The Last of Us legend of zelda breath of the wild and dragon quest 11 alone blow all indie games out of the water. the only good indie game ive seen is stray. the only people praising these low-budget shovelware indie games are PC elitists because they know most of their exclusive games suck compared to consoles so they pirate/steal console games. because they're too lazy to go out and get a console like normal pepole. your just blinded by nostalgia and are desperate for attention so your complaining. there's good things about modern gaming and bad things about modern gaming same with older Retro Gaming.
Check out charli xcx, caroline polacheck or the movies like aftersun this year they're some good mainstream yet still experimental good stuff There is a lot of amazing music some of which is even better than the classics its just not popular because people have shit taste these days
As a kid I grew up around Karen Carpenter, Carly Simon and Carol King. Swift can’t hold a candle to any of those female artists. All three were loved by the general public. Swift will never be one of those talented musicians.
As someone who looked up to her as a teen, I admit I was influenced by a friend to get into her music but what really hooked me at the time was her vulnerability, which is also refreshing to me to see in other artists to this day. The thing for me was she gave off the impression that she was willing to stand out in the beginning but over time it felt more and more obvious that she was simply adapting to the trends in music. I mean that's not uncommon but after the 1989 era... I felt numb.
have u listened to folklore/evermore??? those are not the biggest genres in our times, neither is a 10 minute song. she clearly writes what she wants and does what she wants.
@@connorslifeeI love how when someone "gets into" an artist who is mediocre and overplayed there's still people who recommend music by said artist because you know they don't bother listening to it all...metalheads on the other hand
i just went through some of her songs because ive heard so much praise over her work, people say she is iconic and her music is iconic... but i was honeslt just mildly disappointed. Nothing really ground breaking in any of her tracks. Not bad, But just not what people are making her out to be.
I'm glad I listened to music from the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, as well as classical music when I was growing up in the 2010s. Music today can't even come close to how beautifully written those classic songs are!
That is exactly it. There's literally thousands of years of song writing and melodies absolutely superior in entertainment and quality over anything Taylor Swift puts out. It's hard to understand why anyone would choose to listen to Taylor Swift if they had the tiniest exposure to good music beyond their bubble. Music appreciation is a solo journey mostly obscured by the fn' social media jungle. If you're a Taylor Swift fan, getting to a place where you can enjoy and honestly see the artistry from other time periods is a marathon they are not prepared for. Taylor fans need time and constant exposure to a vast array of sounds outside the limits of their ears 🤣🤣😂🥲🙂😐😑😶😞
Good job! As a huge fan of 60s and 70s music, I totally agree with your takes. Tailor Swift sells an incredible amount of records, but it has close to no relevance outside secondary schools. Only time will tell what mark she will leave on music, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was forgotten quickly
Her fans a bananas. They’ll never let her fade into obscurity. When TOOL released Fear Inoculum they knocked Swift out of the #1 spot and her know nothing fans lost their collective sh^^, hopping on social media trying to get the rest of the stans to dethrone TOOL. They couldn’t get it through their thick skulls that an “unknown” band like TOOL could sell more albums than their brainless idol.
I hate to take music too seriously, but personally I just don’t like the way most popular music sounds. I can’t explain why, I just don’t like it. It’s not deep, and it doesn’t need to be.
No one actually is "owning the music industry" anymore because everyone is. Anyone can release a song these days and it becomes viral the moment it was released. Look at Pound Town and WAP, that's what people apparently like. If you ask me, the people who own it are the people who are touching the souls of sincere desire for something that throws them off to their hearts.
and also@@EchoChamberlain i recomend listening to song twice and listening to great storytelling and the notes of good and bad but i respect your opinion
Here is a fact that all who love music should know. Elvis, the king of rock grew up poor and that is something that can't be taken away from him. He didn't have a jump start to kick off his career. He had to work to own his craft like so many other musicians of his time. People like Little Richard never had it easy when he first started. That is why their music has a soul. Fast forward to the twenty-first century, and you find musicians like Adam Levine and Taylor Swift who didn't come from a poor backgrounds. In fact, these are genuine rich kids who got into the industry because of Daddy's money and connections. So they had an easy jumpstart to kick off their career. In fact, Taylor Swift's father is a wall street scumbag whom I'm pretty sure profited off of those bank bailouts from the 2008 and 09 crises. So congratulations America, your tax dollars went to Taylor Swift's record career one way or the other. We are living in a time where it is getting harder and harder for those who have talent, but don't have the connections to get noticed and have the public judge their music. Meanwhile, children of the rich and famous are getting jumpstarts, connections, and easy record deals because they are related to someone or their parents know someone. And with giant corporations who prefer safe music to brainwash people into becoming mindless consumers it's easy to sell shitty music all they need is a pretty face. Or don't challenge the system. It is true with that old saying. There are a lot of people who have a lot of talent, and are not getting anywhere in life, because they were not born lucky; and then there are people who have very little or even no talent all having their faces plastered on every billboard. Do I need to bring up the Kardashian-Jenner clan, or every joke rapper, or pop singer, or country music star that doesn't even write their songs and let a Producer and a computer do all the music composing for them. Sometimes I ask myself what is music all for, if it's not meant to reach into the soul, or challenge one's own thinking? If music is meant to sell cellphones and coco cola then this is an industry that is doomed to fail.
Of course modern music sucks. Song writing has become more and more lazy and don’t talk about anything except how much stuff they have. Beyoncé has many “song writers” and all they come up with is “who runs the world. Girls” over and over again. I mean seriously. And don’t get me started on how crappy Hip Hop had gotten.
Using the lyrics to a chorus that is repeated in every song against Beyoncé is so tired. Because Taylor Swift got lyrics that say haters are going to hate, hate - repeatedly. Taylor has many co-writers. I hate when people that don't listen to a Black artist's whole discography, see it through a narrow lens. Beyoncé has a diverse audience that includes every race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc. The only people that ever have a problem with her are racists, misogynists, and anyone else that is easily jealous.
I read somewhere that the vast majority of corporate record label pop songs, regardless of artist/band or even the label themselves, is written by just two songwriter's. One bloke is somewhere in Europe and the other is in the US. This is why all pop music sounds the same now.
Max Martin! He did Taylor’s 1989, most of The Weeknd’s hits and Katy Perry’s teenage dream which gave her 5 number 1’s mostly written or produced by max. also responsible for most Britney hits!!
Max Martin is a pop hit machine. His first hit was "Hit Me Baby One More Time" that made Britney Spears famous around the world over night. Another guy that comes to my mind is Dr. Luke (a.k.a. Lukasz Gottwald). He's produced and written songs for Katy Perry, P!nk, Ke$ha, Avril Lavigne, Kelly Clarkson and Miley Cyrus. Luke and Max Martin wrote "Since You Been Gone" that's been the most commercially successful song so far by Kelly Clarkson. He wrote/co-produced famous Katy Perry songs such as "I Kissed A Girl", "Hot'n'Cold", "Teenage Dream" and "California Gurls".
Speak Now was entirely self-written, that's why all the songs follow the same pattern and songwriting structure. I don't understand why people are so against 2+ people co-writing songs. I feel like if an artist has a creative vision and wants to fully express it with help with other people, I don't see the problem. Taylor Swift most of the time thinks of a song idea and fully writes the lyrics or gets co-writers/producers like Jack Antonoff and Max Martin to add to the songs and finish them.
When I listen pop/country music made in the last 20 years it just reminds of the incredibly repetitive, boring, bland Christian rock music I grew up with. I have sort of realized, it's music you're not supposed to listen to, but play in the background of a Target or Walmart.
You can even make a generic chords progression, but you can have meaning to it that would elevate the song. But with Taylor Swift to Katy Perry to Sis, these people that they play their music at stores, just causes the day to seem longer because their songs are really about anything meaningful.
Nothing meaningful? A song about a child dying of cancer isn’t meaningful? A song about healthcare workers during pandemics and war isn’t meaningful?? You obviously haven’t heard enough of Taylor’s songs to make that claim. I honestly dont care if i get labelled as a “toxic/crazy” swiftie, cuz thats just untrue. 😭
@@cringekid9638Nirvana and Queen were doing things musically that was different. Nirvana's success popularized alternative rock, and they were often referenced as the figurehead band of Generation X. Their music maintains a popular following and continues to influence modern rock culture. Taylor Switft's music isn't going to do this.
She is a product, she is cute, has people helping her with the freaking MUSIC, she supposedly writes her lyrics. Just a plastic product, an attractive one for the masses.
yeah if you honestly listen to betty who (a very unknown artist) songs like: Missing you, Better, Giving me away, Dreaming about you, Heartbreak Dream; it’s pretty similar to that certain pop style we see everyday. Thats how 2013 was at the time. And Taylor never changed her style since. She never comes up with something new, like a change. Is she scared her fans won’t listen to her anymore if she changes her style of music? I don’t think that should be the case if she does it right
here’s the thing though: taylor swifts strength is not in her backing music, but in her lyrics. young women adore her because she’s relatable. that’s why she’s become so huge, and why she’s become an icon. like you said, she writes about being a young women, being in love, being heartbroken, and though these are very common song themes, they are also things that are fairly universal amongst her audience. i’m not saying that you are intentionally doing this in your video, but often people, especially adult men, with be overly critical about things that young women enjoy. they’re to silly, simple and dramatic, which i think is stupid. let girls grow up and let them enjoy taylor swift. i was never a huge fan growing up, but that was because i wasn’t confident enough in myself to like popular things. all of the people in my life who loved taylor from childhood and are now adults still love taylor. yes, they’ve found more artists, artists you may deem ‘better’ but that doesn’t make taylor swift any less important to them. i think the people who love taylor don’t love her because of musical complexities or immense talent with a guitar or even with her vocals, they love her because she wrote songs that touched them and they related to them. is it wrong to like an artist for these reasons? is being seen as a connoisseur of avant-garde music more important than enjoying what you listen to? i feel like taylor swift and her music being a bit repetitive is not a huge issue. there’s more, lesser known modern music that will check all the boxes you put out for being good music in this video.
I think that the big difference between Taylor Swift and other artists is that Taylor Swift is dominating in every aspect in the music industry. From physical sales, digital sales, streaming number, chart success, critically acclaimed, breaking records, awards, touring, intellectual property (master of music catalogue & publishing records), and the most important things is loyal fanbase. So many “die hard” Taylor Swift fans are not only stay for her music but also because of her character (keep being humble and relatable). I think She treats her fans the best among other artists because she has genuine concern to her fans. Taylor Swift main forte is her songwriting. She is not the best vocalist compared other singers out there, but she is amazing with her craft. And she is a savvy business women in the music industry. She is the risk takers and so damn intelligent with her business ownership. There is a great video from “Rap Chanel” that explained Why Taylor Swift is Winning. Taylor’s forte are mainly her songwriting and story telling. They have their own story and narrative, it’s basic knowledge. I’ll give you some facts, Across Taylor’s discography (>200 songs), she accomplished more than 30% credited for the percentage of songs written solely by her, the highest percentage of the mainstream artists of her generation followed by Ed Sheeran (15.2%) and Adele (14.5%), in fact Taylor Swift is the most successful songwriter of her generation according to Billboard and other music experts both critically and commercially. The motive and theme of her songs are majority about the complexity of the relationship, about her lover, her ex, her parents, her family, her friends, her band, her fans, her haters and her cats. Her latest project that is album sisters called “folklore” and “evermore” took inspiration from fictional character with little snippet of her story life and talked about Mental Health, Child abuse, World War 2, PTSD, Pandemic, Infidelity, The Last Great American Dynasty (Her House) and so on.
I’m so happy I wasn’t alone in thinking this and am so glad you said something. Out of all the pop starts, Taylor is the one who writes every single song she makes and produces and directs all her music videos. Take a second to listen to Folklore, her music is thought provoking and meaningful and many people love her music, not just young girls. Sure the majority are fans who loved her music growing up and enjoy watching her evolution over the years into a full fledged icon, there are fans of hers from all walks of life and different backgrounds. I could take the other artists mentioned when talking about how mediocre and lifeless modern music can be, but of all people, Taylor Swifr is not one of them. Do some more research first before going on and on about how mid her music is. Also, People come for the lyrics. That’s what she’s known for; writing relatable lyrics that can rip your heart out. She just has this gift of painting a real picture in her songs that resonate with so many people. I just feel it’s a little closed minded to lump every modern artist together under the same umbrella as music that sucks.
I agree. It sucks that people feel the need to make others feel bad for liking things. Like its music! It's subjective like all other fields of Art. Just enjoy what you enjoy, without putting down others and being all elitist about it. :")
i really liked her old music. bad blood, 22, etc. she has really nice music and all her songs had their own unique sound (at least in juxtaposition with each other). now, imo, her lyrics are EXTREMELY weak at best. lyrics like “sometimes i feel like everybody is a sexy baby and i’m just a monster on the hill”. what does that even fucking mean????? is sounds like a chris hansen predator trying to write a biography. literally ALL of the songs from her new album i’ve heard on the radio sound literally the same. i know there’s not much you can do since some chords are standard with female artists or general pop songs, but just. literally all the new songs sound so similar. i get it’s an album and they’re meant to sort of go together but it’s to the point when i hear it on the radio im not sure WHICH of her new songs it is playing. also from the songs i’ve heard of the new batch they all have the same effect on her voice at some point?? this exact same sort of distant echo effect, like she’s singing in a garage but it sounds more like she’s singing in a tiny tin can. it is an okay effect like as is but every new song has seemed to have this effect on her voice. taylor swift deserved a lot of her early hype imo before the fans got cultish and just ate up whatever she made. it’s insane how crazy the fan girls are nowadays. of course i can’t exactly remember more of the goofy ass lyrics when i need to without referencing google which i am too lazy for but in (i think) midnight, the repetitive lyrics that occur at least twice sound like a baby just plugging in words and picking the first ones that rhyme??? one of the segments has like.. “…. covert narcissism blahahablah some other big word blah blah altruism”. and another one was “i woke up screaming from dreaming one day i’ll watch as you’re leaving and life will loose all its meaning (for the last time)” ?? i.. i’m a beginner musician so i just don’t have the proper termology to describe WHY this shit is so off-putting and lazy feeling. the inclusion of the “for the last time” in an even MORE turned up echo effect is like comedy. it just is so goofy and off. and the way she just throws in big words like. i don’t even know. i know a lot of words but i had to look up ‘altruism’ which means probably 50% of people are gonna have to do the same. that’s not a word used in conversation generally so it really feels like she just looked up whatever words rhymed and jammed them into that bridge or whatever part of the song that chaos came from. i could go on literally all day about how goofy and bland modern TS music is. it has gotten so bad if i even hear a clip of (specifically) antihero on the radio i will verbally say something like ‘omfg no’ and flip the station. no hard feelings to any fans of hers (i used to be) but to be fair i doubt any of them clicked on this video for obvious reasons uh. but yeah
I like Taylor's music and I am a young woman, but I wouldn't call myself a Swiftie. I have never been able to relate to the romantic sentiments in her music because they are outside of my experience and contrary to what I see in my parent's relationship and my sister's relationship with her boyfriend. What I find appealing about Taylor's music is her skill as a lyricist and her storytelling. You are right, however, about the chord progression. I can't believe I never saw it before!
It's the Sensitive Female Chord Progression (usually Am / F / C / G) and it was ghastly and overdone when Marc Hirsh first wrote of it 25 years ago, after an underwhelming experience at Lilith Fair. I can't believe Swift used it - what - 6 times on one album?? Gah. She's cruising for a lawsuit for the "are we outta the woods" cadence and chords as it rips off Mr Brighteyes. Rick Beato would LOVE this. One of the problems is that songwriters are so young or ignorant or easily led that they don't realize what they're playing. Thus Lorde gets pinged for ripping off 3 earlier songs on her latest album, and she has no idea. (How could you NOT know you were basically covering a Primal Scream song?) There are very few great musicians who I would consider "total artists", like Bowie or Madonna, but they'll never be widely known, which is also fine: PJ Harvey, Sevdaliza, Mitski. Awards and charts are meaningless, because the labels killed physical merch, in the pursuit of short-term gain, they removed the credibility anchor from any claims of greatness of the music or artist. Promotion is now in the realm of pure post-modern simulacrum.
Swift didn't use it 6 times on one album. They pointed out her using it six times throughout her career and confusingly decided to include one album cover. It's six songs across five albums spanning 14 years.
While its true that her music may be bland in terms of melody. You cant really nitpick on her lyrics. Dont even go there. Fight me. LOL I literally know 2000 songs [and their lyrics] ranging from 1980s songs to 2000s, Trust me, nothing comes close to the poetic brilliance of her song writing.
yeah no im sorry but um sure there's other artists with lyrics just as deep as hers relating to the same topics. lyrics also depend on the listener, they don't mean anything to me but definitely do to you and thats great. I find lyrics from metal more deep and you don't, thats also great. it's all subjective
haven't watched the video so idk if you say this or not but Taylors songs literally all sound the same, and are about the same things, I'm surprised her fans aren't bored of her yet
Weyes Blood, Natalia Lafourcade, Ichiko Aoba, Carly Rae Jepsen, Björk, Jockstrap, Alvvays, Magdalena Bay, Hatchie are/have great modern female artists (lead singers) ... to name a few.
Björk is still making music but she's more 90s and early 2000's in her prominence i still love her but calling her modern sounds weird she is still ahead of all of us tho
@Synthetic silkwood she was just one example. Her music is experimental. She changes as years go on, which is why she was included. Iggy Pop is another current artist who was around before the 2000s yet his music is practically unlistenable corporate mush. My point is that modern commercial music may suck but as a whole? Definitely not. I can go on for hours listing different singers, bands, rappers, etc. that are putting out great music with soul.
Blame the Telecommunications Act that allowed a handful of companies to own most radio stations. The sound became more homogenized and casual listeners (meaning: people who just receive music others program on the radio or just the “Top Hits” playlists rather than those who dig deep to find something that sounds fresh and “different”) are content with what they get. Her music, to me, has no surprises. Her fans talk about how awesome her lyrics are, but I don’t care about that; I want to hear interesting arrangements, orchestration, instrumentation, fresh song structures. I have no clue what Led Zeppelin lyrics are about but it doesn’t matter because the music is so damned interesting. I’m also not stuck in the past. There are SO MANY great bands out there-and more new ones I find pretty much daily.
I agree with the part about Beyonce, but old Beyonce was a generic pop icon. Ever since the release of her “4” album, her sound has changed so drastically and it got more mature. Lemonade shows that, same way does Renaissance. She has her public, but she is so versatille with her sounds that it makes Singles Ladies really badly aged
@@EchoChamberlain Then you haven’t heard bad lines. In case you didn’t know, it means to be super cunning. I wouldn’t expect an illiterate Imbecile like u to know.
She got where she is because her father bought her way into one of the biggest record labels. If you're wondering why she's so popular and successful in a way that seems unjustified by her music (which she doesn't write all of anyway) it's because of pure nepotism and privilege.
Meanwhile she has the nerve to say she'd be more successful as a man, which is entirely wrong. She wouldve dropped off after her first few singles at best were she a man.
I think it’s because men don’t want to be linked to anything feminine. Take the way you described young people, for example. ‘Admired young man’ vs ‘impressionable young girls’. Individual, cool identity vs naive monolith. A lot of all-male, not that original fandoms (e.g., Marvel) are seen as more meaningful than majority-female things. Many male artists sing in C-G-Am-F about various relationships, but that’s not seen as problematic. I agree with your view on Swift’s unoriginality, though I disagree that indie music is superior. This is just a self-imposed elitism based on your own musical tastes
Well if you just sit on your backside downloading music, rather than working to earn the money and then taking a bus ride into town to buy the record in a store, then............so what?
It's not just the chords or rhythm that ppl focus on, its her words, that's why she's popular. Take blues music for example, im a blues guitarist, and i realized very early that there's million ways to play a 12 or 16 bar nlues shuffle, but the words are what makes these songs memorable. There's only 12 notes, and jazz players have played every one millions of different ways from Miles Davis Giant steps, Herbie Hancock headhunters, Chick Corea electrik band playing Spain 😂, come on dude its chick music literally, bubble gum pop, or three chord man hater songs, cry on your Teddy bear stuff. Not to be confused with technical musical theory.
She's essentially just recording All the Small Things over and over again. And the biggest difference between Taylor Swift and Lizzo is that Lizzo is actually an extremely talented flautist and has more dynamics than Swift. Swift's music is mid as fuck.
@@EchoChamberlain she just did the biggest world tour all time. and then put it in cinema and shattered all records there. more than quadrupled beyonce at the exact same time on both fronts. she has supplanted madonna. even madonna said so. shattered the record for album of the year previously held by sinatra. madonna perhaps held the spot but now taylor is more than in rushmore territory. mj, elvis, beatles, taylor. your pals may be ending disney, but you all, like jay z and kanye, are POWERLESS to stop miss swift.
@@jussieeeeyunnv 2008. agents said you had one chance to make the jump from part time country to pop icon. rent was due. lights were out. 100 dollar in bank! chamberlain's tears were nigh. Taylor came up with LOVE STORY. and the rest is history. from that starting point, to now calling out and emasculating Soros. Echooooooo bow down to her muahahaha
@@learic3240 what I said is absolutely true, anything labeling her as cowriter is laughable, sure she probably wrote the lyrics but without the catchy music (written and performed entirely by other ppl) her lyrics are meaningless and amounts to 7th grade amateur poetry at best. Also not only are other ppl writing her music but they'll coach her on how it should be sung. I worked on one of those writing teams for her and for many other people and I can tell you with 100% certainty that almost NO pop stars write their own music. Sorry if that goes against your ideal view of the music industry, the truth can be hard to handle.
@@mathias8627 Yeah ok, so many renowned professionals have said that she is a great lyricist and even some of her haters admit that her lyrics are at least very good. If a 7th grader can do it, why hasn't anyone else capitalised on it and made shit tons of money as she has. I would like to ask you who did you work for if that's ok.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory, and I always reject those. She has producers added to her material, to enhance it. I've heard it all before. What else is new? UFO's are real (read my comments on that, you'll love 'em).
@@learic3240 While we're on the subject of "if a 7th grader can do it," : 1.) I don't think anyone has, 2.) they're afraid to, 3.) Just the facts (but true), J.S. Bach was a gifted prodigy. As much as I despise and put him down, I'll admit it (speaking of haters admitting/praising someone they hate).
Yes, I've never liked Taylor Swift, and yes, those chord progression examples were gruelling as a musician and songwriter, but how are you going to argue that Taylor Swift is a bland songwriter because she emphasizes quality lyrics over creative chord progressions or musicianship when, as far as I'm aware, Bob Dylan is also a similar type of songwriter who writes quality lyrics over simple chords with less-than-brilliant singing?
@@ghosted1690She has many songs about other subjects, but you probably didn't know that. And I really recommend her albums Folklore and Evermore, they have great lyrics
Answer: Bob Dylan is overrated. He was a lyricist, a mediocre guitarist, a less than mediocre harmonica player, and with the exception of maybe 2 albums ("Nashville Skyline" being one) an atrocious singer. Seriously, way way WAY too many people think writing a "song" IS writing the lyrics. The words have trumped the music to the extent that SAYING you are a musical artist has the power to CONVINCE people you are a musical artist. Consequently, a lot of people don't even know what a purely musical artist even is.
I'm not a Taylor Swift fan ,but I have tried to unravel the mystery behind her incredible popularity and success. #1 Taylor has a nice sounding voice.She may not be as good as other singers,but she has a nice tone to her voice.Besides look at Tom Petty he didn't have the best voice,but you like his voice and attitude. #2Taylor Is very relateable to teen girls and women who are Taylor's age who grew up with Taylor from her early days .Her lyrics from a girl and women's perspective is very relateable to girls and women. #3 Taylor is a great lyricist.Im not a fan of hers ,but of what I have heard lyrics are her greatest strength as a musical artist and are what makes her relateable to girls and women. #4 Social media is also tied into Taylor's massive success. I wondered about her guitar playing.She must have songs that are in other keys than just C Major huh? #5 I almost forgot Taylor is beautiful she has pretty blonde hair and pretty blue eyes this is very appealing to girls and women as well as guys regarding how Taylor looks. Taylor's looks coupled with her incredible relatability make her fit an ideal that girls and women are drawn too.Shes like a real life Barbie to them. If she looked like a less attractive singer like Megan Trainor girls wouldn't be nearly as interested in Taylor.Taylors supermodel good looks attracts alot of girls and women because she fits a beauty ideal to them and she has a girl next door kind of relatability.
You know, what I actually love about Bowie’s music is the fact that when I go back to the lyrics and read them attentively I often find a new and genuinely exiting way of interpreting them. It happened lately with China Girl and I was blown away by how brilliant the lyrics are if you consider “the girl” in the title as a personification of a drug. Everything just ties together very nicely along with the “swastika” line - famous nazi leaders were often drug addicts (Goerring, Hitler...). And the critique towards western patriarchal society mainly it’s love of power is very nicely fitted in between the lines of what appears to be a naive love song. And the way this whole song ends is just a cherry on top. Bowie was a hell of a writer. I could talk on and on and on about “All the young dudes” or “Five years” or his more recent works as “Strangers when we meet” or “Lazarus” (that one never fails to make me terribly scared of death and in awe at the same time) “Thursdays Child”... these lyrics are just full of different meanings, sometimes hidden in between the lines. I have no knowledge whatsoever when it comes to music but I can recognise a well-crafted, smart piece of literature when I see it. Well. This comment got insanely long. Since you mentioned Bowie I felt like professing my love to this man’s writing skills. (As you can tell English isn’t my first language and I was probably rambling a bit, sorry :))
Iirc he co-wrote China Girl with Iggy Pop, but yes, he was a hell of a songwriter. Very intelligent man, very thoughtful in his artistic craft. Often played with double meanings and sarcasm so dry, people often mistakenly take those songs at face value.
I’m a man and I do like some Taylor Swift songs and I absolutely do play them when we go barbecue with the friends, so there’s that. Especially from that 1989 album. No need to use strong words such as “nobody, never, blabla”. Is she a pop star? For certain. Is she a musical icon? Not for me, but for a lot of, like you’ve said, young impressionable ladies. She’s been a pretty good role model seemingly, so not sure why you need to denigrate her really, or the experience of those young girls. Swift is not your cup of tea, I get it, but to call her music “sucks” - dunno, man. Open TH-cam or TikTok trending music, listen to some new rap/hiphop cringe crap and that’s what I’d call music that sucks. Only 4 chords? Honestly, that’s a low bar snobby jab used by 50yo old farts. Most of the best rock songs for example in russian language also have like 4-5 chords and that didn’t stop a lot of great artists and bands to achieve truly legendary status, like Kino, DDT, Chaif, etc. The same can be said about a lot of English-speaking rock bands, there are often the same 4-6 chords with perhaps few solos here and there. Who cares about the amount of chords, it’s not chords Olympics. Swift’s music and lyrics are actually decent and at least sound pleasant, unlike a ton of modern music. I personally don’t think she’s some kind of music icon in a broader sense, like Michael Jackson, or say Linking Park with Chester during Meteora and Hybrid Theory years, and her music isn’t as complex as jazz obviously, sure, but it’s got its place, she mostly writes her own lyrics, she can use instruments, even if it’s not at an absolute level of proficiency. And while I do not deeply enjoy this modern trend of writing lyrics that are extremely specific and describe in too many small details a personal experience - I am more of a believer in higher concepts and more broader themes that could appeal to more people - her music and lyrics are far, far from the worst offenders. I kinda think you’ve picked the wrong person to demonstrate “why modern music sucks”. It’s definitely not because of Taylor Swift.
Well if you’re going to insult people by calling them old farts you won’t mind me call you an immature, brainless twat with no appreciation for good music.
I think that the big difference between Taylor Swift and other artists is that Taylor Swift is dominating in every aspect in the music industry. From physical sales, digital sales, streaming number, chart success, critically acclaimed, breaking records, awards, touring, intellectual property (master of music catalogue & publishing records), and the most important things is loyal fanbase. So many “die hard” Taylor Swift fans are not only stay for her music but also because of her character (keep being humble and relatable). I think She treats her fans the best among other artists because she has genuine concern to her fans. Taylor Swift main forte is her songwriting. She is not the best vocalist compared other singers out there, but she is amazing with her craft. And she is a savvy business women in the music industry. She is the risk takers and so damn intelligent with her business ownership. There is a great video from “Rap Chanel” that explained Why Taylor Swift is Winning. Taylor’s forte are mainly her songwriting and story telling. They have their own story and narrative, it’s basic knowledge. I’ll give you some facts, Across Taylor’s discography (>200 songs), she accomplished more than 30% credited for the percentage of songs written solely by her, the highest percentage of the mainstream artists of her generation followed by Ed Sheeran (15.2%) and Adele (14.5%), in fact Taylor Swift is the most successful songwriter of her generation according to Billboard and other music experts both critically and commercially. The motive and theme of her songs are majority about the complexity of the relationship, about her lover, her ex, her parents, her family, her friends, her band, her fans, her haters and her cats. Her latest project that is album sisters called “folklore” and “evermore” took inspiration from fictional character with little snippet of her story life and talked about Mental Health, Child abuse, World War 2, PTSD, Pandemic, Infidelity, The Last Great American Dynasty (Her House) and so on. In conclusion, this video is trash. Clearly you are just an ignorant old hag. How come you just trying to call out Taylor for doing her job and not for the other artists? Is this how you cry of jealousy of her success or your internal sexism/misogyny? You’re just idiot, pathetic! Clearly you are trying to under cut Taylor success but At the end of the day, Taylor doesn’t need validation from a random coward, ignorant and a bully like you. I pity you, are you ok? Who hurt you? Get some help! You guys are just a bunch of hater, ignorant and a coward. Do your own research! Pathetic 🤧💀
Ok, I am a MALE a swiftie and I do know multiple male swifties. Secondly, the reasons that I liked Taylor was because of one song that really got me through the toughest time of my life. And from that I listened to other songs and for me music is enjoyment and relatabality and that mainly comes through the lyrics so I don’t care much for the chords(my brother who is more of. A musician will obviously say the opposite) and I rather care more for lyrics. Taylor’s lyrics are truly amazing. She isn’t the best artist ever, but she is for me. So that’s why me and most swiftie defend her so much and stuff
I respect your opinion but do you agree she is overrated? Almost every teen girl i know are obsses with taylor swif and spending their money on her. But i understand how she could help you though tbad times but her lyrics are very basic and tell the same story almost everytime.
@@ライラアーWhat is it exactly people want when they try to downplay her talent? To “calibrate” others’ rating of her? I find that a little sad. No sane person is blinded to the fact she isn’t some kind of GOAT. Maybe you should put more energy into bringing up all the other artists you think deserve to be on the charts. If being on the charts and making money is somehow important.
@@ライラアーdo you also agree that Eminem is overrated and overly hype with males? His music is more pop than real rap and lyrically he's not all that. Dude has to use offensive language towards homosexual men and women to be a "songwriter"
@@AntiStraightMaleSociety"lyrically not all that"!?!?! The only people who think that are people who have never studied lyrics! The sad thing about Ems lyrics is that most people will miss the brilliance he writes - the assonance, alliteration, family rhymes, superb use of repeating fricatives nasals and plosives. Em's lyrics are densely packed with every variation of rhyme and every poetic device in the book. No one is on the same planet as eminem.
@@mikesmithz he can't rap without insulting homosexual men. It's basically his ñ wørd. Not to mention his new songs are ãss but whatever, you say dude.
Beyoncé caught strays in this video. Her music is anything other than repetitive. I think she is blowing that idea out of the water as we speak. She just went from disco ballroom to a country fusion album FLAWLESSLY
Only reason she did that is because country is on the come up as a genre and is the 3rd most popular genre. She has industry backing which means she has the best producer, writers, singers, players, etc. she undoubtedly doesnt write her own material. Where as Taylor Swift, despite being super simple, she writes her own music. Not saying either is better but comparing two popstars is like comparing a orange to an apple. Theyre both fruits regardless
No, those are songs from across several albums released over a decade and a half. No idea why they decided to put the Midnights album image there the whole time.
But don't the lyrics reflect her as a creative person, aka, a musician? And when you have lyrics as simple as "we'll always be bad blood...so take a look what you've done...", are her fans truly dumb and ignorant and don't care? Are they blissfully ignorant? The songs and lyrics are beyond boring and the melody alone is horrible.
I believe the lyrics for some of her songs are great such as Love Story, but most of her songs have very generic or just very meaningless lyrics that don't have much impact... Incredible lyrics in my opinion are songs from older artists and bands such as Air Supply, Bon Jovi, Scorpions, Queen. I'll give you some songs: 1. Still Loving You By Scorpions 2. Bed Of Roses By Bon Jovi 3. Always By Bon Jovi 4. Making Love Out Of Nothing At All By Air Supply 5. Here I Am by Air Supply 6. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night by Bon Jovi 7. Bohemian Rhapsody By Queen 8. Too Much Love Will Kill You By Queen 9. Right Here Waiting By Richard Marx 10. Lost By Linkin' Park There are a couple of songs which I believe have absolutely Beautiful lyrics at a level to which Taylor Swifts songs just don't reach
@@Hadex01 Most of her songs that have generic lyrics are her singles, but her best writing is in other songs. I really recommend songs like Dear John, All Too Well, Out Of The Woods, Cornellia Street, My Tears Ricochet, Champagne Problems and You're On Your Own, Kid
i don't understand the appeal of her lyrics, they sound like disney songs that would be written for 2008 movies like camp rock, they're so generic and the metaphors are so simple. they really sound like they were written by AI for children
I don’t like taylor swift but the chord progression C G Am F that she uses that’s “generic” is also the progression of Let It Be by the Beatles so even the greatest musicians use that lol
BUT the Beatles had through this chord progression a genius memoriable melody. AND the piano, bass, organ, horns, backing vocals, pauls lead vocal, guitar solo, and not to forget production gave it an iconic sound. Also the way a band plays together gives a specific groove. As a result a song sounds interesting and alive. That makes an HUGE difference! The lack of all those parameters in Swifts music makes it so boring.
Putting Beyoncé next to Taylor Swift and Harry Styles feels very disingenuous to me. That woman can sing circles around the entire music industry, yet people still use Single Ladies as jab at her music as if she hasn't released incredible, boundary-breaking bodies of work since then. Be for real.
Beyoncé doesn’t write any of her own music doesn’t play an instrument and yes she has a strong voice but it’s not Whitney Houston strong so what is she? Just corporate trash for blacks
As an artist she’s the epitome of boredom but so are the white business school aspiring teen girls who listen to her music. I cannot understand the massiveness of her success.
If you're looking for great music in the same generation, I strongly recommend: 1. Paolo Nutini (UK) - "Candy" 2. Rumer (UK) - "Slow" 3. Marlon Williams (New Zealand/ Australia) - "When I Was A Young Girl" 4. Kings of Convenience (Norway) - "Rocky Trail" 5. Weyes Blood (USA) - "A Lot's Gonna Change"
That is true. Tone deaf people have outstanding tastes in music (and all things in life), but can't sit down and play an instrument. Look at history. Just ask Laurens Hammond (I wish I never knew this guy's name). I can think of several inventors and intellectuals (like him), that are in love with opera, theater, classical music, and all things mushy, embarassing, and retarded. Oh, the things you love when you're intelligent/have a high IQ. I still think, the deeper the work/piece/song, the more it sucks balls, the mushier it is. I understand applying emotion and shit, but sometimes, it's too much. There is much worse than Taylor Swift. Why are we wasting time making hate videos like this? This is the modern world. I find it interesting how (through YT), there are millions that are stupid enough to like...Bach (as I was trolling videos with his works in them).
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The problem today is that mediocre music is getting more attention than real inspiring music
pop music is a perfect example. there’s some artists who sing about some real shit, and have good ass voices, but if you don’t fit the aesthetic or “look the part”, you won’t get the time of day (maybe you’ll win a grammy that everyone shits all over if you’re lucky). i can’t stand the radio shit.
i’m a hip hop head. i know this firsthand. 99% of the mainstream absolutely sucks, while the actual talent gets no recognition or respect. it’s awful.
You do not destroy greatness by attacking it outright; you destroy it by enshrining mediocrity.
I'll take today's mediocre music over the bullshit I used to like. I used to be curious about music of decades and centuries ago. What young person (even in the late 90s/2000s) would be like me? I used to curious and have a passion for anything before...the 1950s. Recently, I took a long, hard look at all that antique shit. No wonder goth and alternative people like me. Never again.
In modern American culture, mediocrity is the goal.
whats sexist bs this video is
"Her music is generic, bland and overused" That's exactly why she's so popular, people are basic nowadays. Harry styles isnt any different, his music sounds like forgettable commercial music
Agreed music nowadays is just purely made for commercial success
True, even Drake and Eminem are overrated and basic at best but guys glorify them lol
I like Taylor Swift because she a good songwriter and I guess "storyteller". Not to mention she's not as problematic as Drake or the bald old white dude. She's only in drama because people attack her for no reason, so she claps back.
I am sorry but you don’t actively listen to her music it is not bad if it would be bad she wouldn’t be the most famous singer in the world right now
@@ellie_xd_8651 fame doesn't equal talent
@@AntiStraightMaleSociety Eminem is not though. There's a big difference between him and Drake.
Edit: just read more carefully your username. Now I know the reason why you like Taylor Swift.
Taylor swift doesn’t create music; she sells it.
She wrote the entirety of the speak now album
@@Julia_imbored it’s not just about writing music. Radiohead is a fantastic band that MAKES music. Taylor Swift makes mediocre music that sells. She uses the same chord progressions in every song. She is not a musician. She is a businesswoman
@@JaneKane08:) I love Radiohead especially their hail to the thief album, it’s amazing
that comment was one of the stupidest comment ive ever seen
@@JaneKane08 OK Computer and Kid A are masterpieces and pure Art
Im sitting in an office full of swifties on the day her new album dropped and they are playing it on the office tv. They're like "oh this is the greatest." I am just thankful for headphones.
😢😢 sorry about that
I feel for you. I would be ready to run for the hills.
Ugh I can imagine how annoying that would be, I hope I don’t end up in that situation, or anyone else in that matter.
Yet when I blare Yin Yang Twins Pull My Hair on repeat I’m the bad guy.
@@Satan-777 they crap dude. Taylor sucks too.
Taylor isn’t even a bad artist.
But her fans who claim “she’s THE music industry” clearly don’t listen to a lot of music. I’m sorry if Taylor Swift is your impression of the best of the best within the music industry than you clearly don’t listen to a lot of music.
Exactly! Most swifties I’ve come across have never ventured genres outside of pop or artists similar to Taylor… I feel sorry for them lol
The phrase ‘Taylor Swift is the music industry’ comes from Barbara Walters not swifties. Fans just use it when she breaks records which is very often.
@@UncrownedGlobe3 agreed. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not the biggest fan of Taylor…but when she makes a damn good song, it’s a DAMN good song. It’s just I feel a lot of her audience has never branched out into any other genres besides pop/folk pop.
Like I had an argument one time in high school with a swiftie because they said Kendrick Lamar (referring to the Bad Blood song) was terrible and irrelevant. I was shocked, this is the dude who gave us To Pimp A Butterfly and then a year later after Bad Blood received a Pulitzer Prize for his rap music in his Damn album. How is he irrelevant when compared to Taylor? You don’t have to like rap music but to say Kendrick is irrelevant???
@@kimmy2631 I mean she can break all the records she wants. But to say she encompasses the entirety of the music industry is a flat out joke. I like Taylor, but a lot of other artists could perform her music with ease, could she perform others artists’s music with the same level of ease?…probably not. Many may disagree but thats how I feel.
@Jessie my two personal favorite artists of all time are Kendrick Lamar, Childish Gambino, Prince (legend), and I really like the writing style of Matty Healy of the 1975 although I am no longer as huge of a fan as I used to be.
Honestly I've never understood this Taylor Swift hype. She's not necessarily a bad musician at least she can play guitar and write her own songs I grant her that. But she's way overhyped at this point. People act like she's the second coming of Jesus Christ. Commercially speaking Taylor is extremely successful yes but she's no Aretha Franklin, Ella Fitzgerald, Etta James, Janis Joplin, Joan Baez, Joni Mitchell, Dolly Parton, Tracy Chapman, Melody Gardot or Amy Winehouse artistically speaking.
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@@renz6634 ... the milk/beans? Yeah, there's no crying over spilt milk.
@@nikkili8944 think they were agreeing with u..
@@thatrainyboy1670 I don't know. One single word like in this case 𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘭𝘭 isn't really meaningful, there's no proper context. I had to translate it because English isn't my native language. Upon that translation I figured it was meant in a more negative way. Unfortunately I can't see the 2nd reply because YT doesn't let me.
She’s not even top 5 amongst her contemporaries
Music needs to be awarded for its artistic value and the composition of the audio itself not just because it was made by an overrated artist.
I don't think modern music as a whole sucks, but finding good music has definitely become much harder due to oversaturation.
Probably because of social media and algorithm. If you listen to a certain style you get recommended the same style over and over again. So many of these younger fans are stuck in echo chambers of bad music. Especially if it's highly commercialized.
@@CrimsonEclipse you got to have some intelligence to appreciate good music.
@@rickmerritt128 good music is subjectives. Most people just have preferences. Even dogs could appreciate what some people considered good music. Not all preference applies to what is consider unique, deep, technical or innovative.
@@CrimsonEclipse so with your logic, there is no such thing as good or bad and talent doesn't fit into the equation nor does skill or musicianship or the effort to create thoughtful intelligent craft? Usually it will reveal itself as evident or in a form of an axiom. There are two kinds of music. Good and bad with some range of gray area as to how bad or how good.
@@rickmerritt128 I would agree there is a different between good or bad music and some grey in between. But good and bad depends on the audience. But soley on intelligence alone you can't determine if they appreciate good music or not. Like even babies and animals appreciate music from the greats.
But hey you said you got to have some intelligence to appreciate good music. Almost all creatures has some intelligence in them.
The subjectives nature of good music is the same as any art form. It's either good technically or invoke deep emotional feelings.
There is either technically good or emotionally good. But the emotional part depends on who can relate to the subject.
Taylor Swift is a glorified model and actress with a teenagers view of life . She looks amazing in all the videos dressed to the nines . But her music is such a bland diet of same old notes ad infinitum. The lyrics are nothing I relate to. But Im a child of the 50 s and sixties .
She can’t act worth a damn
And Also Auto tune and not great voice or vocal range
No one epitomizes the bland, soulless corporate state of pop music like Taylor Swift.
Taylor Swift is the sound of standing in a CVS waiting for a prescription
LMAOO cry more, she makes more than yall
Taylor Swift is mediocre. She's know Alexander Oneal, are Sade. Just a mediocre white chick from Pennsylvania. She's know different from Selena Gomez.
How is this woman more financially successful than Sade. She didn't change Music like Ray Charles.
@@Edwardtheblue2 thanks for the insight, you midwit
Taylor Swift is Nickelback for young women. Thankyou for your service.
nickelback is wrongly villianized imo.
🤣😂😄😂
nickelback hate is proof of herd behavior. We all said they suck even though they were a pretty regular, average rock band. I was guilty of it myself.
Nickelback is fine
I thought this video would be a legit criticism but 2 mins into being "hip and cool and only women/girls like them" 🙄; it is just another unjustified and irrational take on an artist. Nickelback was mediocre, but they are not the worst band. People here acting like Nickelback burned an orphanage or was involved shooting civilians.🙄 Taylor is overrated yeah, but she's not without talent. This video and everybody should have zoomed in on the 4-chord curse and annoying pop trends, but ye girls/women/uncool people are not allowed to like anything.
This is brilliant. As a fellow musician, I agree 100%. Taylor Swift’s teenage fans are too brainwashed to see her objectively though.
I think that the big difference between Taylor Swift and other artists is that Taylor Swift is dominating in every aspect in the music industry. From physical sales, digital sales, streaming number, chart success, critically acclaimed, breaking records, awards, touring, intellectual property (master of music catalogue & publishing records), and the most important things is loyal fanbase. So many “die hard” Taylor Swift fans are not only stay for her music but also because of her character (keep being humble and relatable). I think She treats her fans the best among other artists because she has genuine concern to her fans. Taylor Swift main forte is her songwriting. She is not the best vocalist compared other singers out there, but she is amazing with her craft. And she is a savvy business women in the music industry. She is the risk takers and so damn intelligent with her business ownership. There is a great video from “Rap Chanel” that explained Why Taylor Swift is Winning.
Taylor’s forte are mainly her songwriting and story telling. They have their own story and narrative, it’s basic knowledge. I’ll give you some facts, Across Taylor’s discography (>200 songs), she accomplished more than 30% credited for the percentage of songs written solely by her, the highest percentage of the mainstream artists of her generation followed by Ed Sheeran (15.2%) and Adele (14.5%), in fact Taylor Swift is the most successful songwriter of her generation according to Billboard and other music experts both critically and commercially.
The motive and theme of her songs are majority about the complexity of the relationship, about her lover, her ex, her parents, her family, her friends, her band, her fans, her haters and her cats. Her latest project that is album sisters called “folklore” and “evermore” took inspiration from fictional character with little snippet of her story life and talked about Mental Health, Child abuse, World War 2, PTSD, Pandemic, Infidelity, The Last Great American Dynasty (Her House) and so on.
In conclusion, this video is trash. Clearly you are just an ignorant old hag. How come you just trying to call out Taylor for doing her job and not for the other artists? Is this how you cry of jealousy of her success or your internal sexism/misogyny? You’re just idiot, pathetic! Clearly you are trying to under cut Taylor success but At the end of the day, Taylor doesn’t need validation from a random coward, ignorant and a bully like you. I pity you, are you ok? Who hurt you? Get some help! You guys are just a bunch of hater, ignorant and a coward. Do your own research! Pathetic 🤧💀
@@romirosta1917 I'm allowed to hold my views though. There's no point in trying to convert someone to become a TS fan if we don't want to be one. BTW I didn't read a word that you wrote because you're going on tangents and sticking up for an environmental criminal. She could solve world hunger with her money so I don't see this woman as a saint. Do I support female artists? 100%, but there are others (Katy Perry, Rihanna, etc.) who are better role models so I listen to their music.
@@CharlotteForbes What kind a horse shit, SMH. Are you allergic with hospitality, empathy and kindness? Are those words foreign language to you? Again, Taylor doesn't need validation from a random coward, ignorant and a bully like you. Who hurt you boo? Go get some help please 🧣
@@romirosta1917 Do you think I'm reading comments? You can hate on the video maker if you gotta hate on someone but this is a waste of internet space.
@@charlotteforbes2090 Everything you guys did was a choice, right??? Free speech, right??? Well, even free speech comes with an invoice. As the Elders use to say, "Don't let your mouth write a check, that your a$$ can't cash!!!" This is internet, ffs. So if you mentioned Taylor Swift, be prepare! 🤧💀
People even compare her with paul McCartney lmao
Dude pioneered more than 15 music genres, all taylor swift did was make a toxic fanbase who thinks they are superior
lol
And that’s not Taylor’s fault at all
No hate on paul McCartney but making a lot of music genres is not necessary flex at all
@@Callitwywant and what in the living fuck did taylor do?
@@Callitwywantlol nothing impresses you I presume
@@GabrielBacon Someone of such popularity should either be revolutionary or atleast provide an entertaining spin on the existing convention,
Mccartney satisfies both and very importantly, is both a good songwriter and an excellent musician.
Taylor swift can make songs but in terms of the music in her songs its often boring and unimpressive,
furthermore she as a thirty something superstar cant even compare to a teenage paul mccartney who wrote songs like Michelle or Yesterday.
She’s the baby food of music
A spoiled one.
fast food, like majority of modern music today
*baby sh!t
LOL @ "baby food." LOLOLOLOL!!! I'd call opera a lasagna, manicotti, or anything with Ricotta cheese. Classic Rock (Varies), symphonies (an _ course meal). Not every one likes fancy, elaborate shit.
@@NaticzkaKaminskaHenryDolphin Taylor Swift = fast food. The alternative = fancy, sit down, expensive restaurant. Not everyone has the time, patience, love, loyalty, etc. for one.
Bring Freddie Mercury, John Lennon, Elvis, Michael Jackson, Kurt Kobain from the grave, and Taylor Swift doesn't stand a chance.
Facts
Them all??? She doesn't stand a chance against one of them even now they are dead
It always comes back to those four chords.
That reminds me of that Status Quo album: "In Search Of The Fourth Chord" 😊
Todays pop music sucks. And that Gen Z doesn’t notice it especially when they listen to 60s 70s and 80s songs on the radio or at the movies is spooky. Take the top 20 from each year since 1999 and compare it with any other year in the US billboard charts. From 1960 till 1993. It‘s not comparable.
The 90s where great actually, they pushed the envelope in many different genres.
I’m gen z and hate Taylor swift. I’m hardcore Radiohead fan and other bands of the 90s and 80s and 70s. There are still a lot gen z that listens to music like me. You just don’t find them often:)
Ur right. The older songs are so bad.
Pop music in the late 90s and early 2000s was awesome what are you talking about.
I'm in my mid 20s i listen to music from the 1960s all the way to the late 2010s
She's not an artist
A business woman
When she was a country singer which I liked, she wasn't this popular with young audience (I was like 12 when i heard love story & liked it)
So she followed the trend & made it in no time & yes, she's overrated
I used to love her country songs...a lot! Didn't like it when she shifted to pop
Then explain why 30 year olds go to her concerts??? Some y’all are so brain dead that you can’t seem to understand music is subjective to each individual. This video is nothing but some 25 year old crying that Taylor has more impact than his flop fav, to that I say KEEP CRYING LMAOOOO.
Same! I loved the country songs and then she shifts to pop and now I dislike the songs she created because now the songs are just boring and full or random lyrics. But that’s my opinion.
She is obviously a business woman first. Even her parents said they raised her with business in mind which is why they named her a gender neutral name. Both her parents have business backgrounds and her mom before becoming a stay at home mom was an advertisement manager. Her mom played a huge part as her manager and marketing her persona.
Taylor Swift's whole entire life was literally a business investments by her parents.
Her parents wanted her to be famous they paid for singing and acting classes by flying her to NY when she was like 10 years old and even hired a talent manager to help get her gigs. She was a child model and turn singer. Her parents been trying to get her recording deals for years but apparently in NY it's illegal for underage minors to be signed to a record label without a court order. Why else they decided to target Nashville, Tennessee music industry instead?
Apparently her old manager tried to sue her and her parents because they fired him after the manager helped them with negotiation with Scott Borchetta owner of Big Machine. Before Taylor Swift and her parents signed any paperwork they fired the manager just to saved on 10% commissions on whatever she will earn from Big Machine. Scott Swift(Taylor' dad) also invested $300k with Big Machine as well so he play a huge part in how Taylor's signing with Big Machine.
Even till today her parents are by her side helping with managing and negotiations.
@@krutika1047 country? Come on now. She was being marketed that way.
God I miss the 90’s when music SPOKE. 😢Taylor suckssssssss✌️
Couldn't agree more. The 90s where by far the greatest decade, nearly everything literally peaked that decade, except for TV shows which peaked in the 2000s. Great music, where many different genres pushed the envelope compared to previous generation. Fantastic movies including the Disney renaissance, animated shows, video games, sitcoms etc, you name it.
Music still speaks and is innovative, you just have to do your research and find the right artists, not simply turn on your radio and base your judgement upon that single experience
I feel like older artist had a certain level of respect, passion, maturity, and humility. They understood the world on a deeper level than today’s artist. Most artist of today are selfish and bratty. They make music to sell their image and their fans love it.
That's how Hollywood and US-based record labels do it since time immemorial. It's not about the talent. As long as the artist's image sells a lot to a very wide scope of demographics and it generates money, that philosophy will always continue.
Money. money. money.
You mean for example the iconic pedophile David Bowie? So respectful and human of him to sleep with several teens in his 40ts but Taylor swift isn’t human or respectful because she is mainstream
Have a listen to Joustene Lorenz'z last 203 albums. She's genuine and probing. A real poet.
@myqueen_RegineVelasque all record labels are about money even non US ones hate agents the US is weird
I agree with most of what you’re saying but Beyonces old school stuff is definitely played a lot by different groups, even young men will vibe out to her music wherever it’s being played at.
Old School Beyonce is pretty great. Ngl
Quincy Jones, one of the greatest music producers of all time, said that if a singer's voice isn't recognizable in five seconds, they'll never become a star. So what's with Taylor Swift? I still have to be reminded by the DJ that Swift is playing on the radio. Between her bland voice and her bland music, her supposedly great lyrics are completely lost.
Excessive use of auto-tune creates a bland, forgettable voice.
honestly only a few modern artists that truly have voices you can pin point. and i think it's because of the amount of emotion they put into it.
You only heard Shake It Off and her singles. You should listen to Folklore and Evermore if you want to hear her great lyrics! Trust me, when you hear Tolerate It, it’s like heaven!
@@marirester I mainly listen to folk music, and yet I can't with her wannabe-albums. Those 2 albums were actually the final nail in the coffin for me to stop listen to her product
She is the white bread of music.
the mcdonalds of music
Laughing at how true that is XD
YES. Been saying for years her and some artist like her are the "Wal-Mart" of the music industry. McDonald's is the perfect analogy. If you want the big Mac value meal, order "tortured poets department" , if you want the happy meal, order "1989" lol.....
No she's not cuz McDonald's is actually good.
McDonald’s is yummy tho 😭
that's a put down to mcdonalds, more like Arby's
If she was not a tall beautiful blonde blue eyed girl she wouldn’t last three months in the charts
She's not that pretty to begin with
@@benji-2die4she is objectively pretty like her songs are objectively boring
1) She's normal pretty with good styling.
2) I think she might have become a song writer behind the scenes if she had become less pretty, but I don't know enough about the career path to compare it to her real one
She looks like a man and I'm half convinced schizos are right about her being a man, and it has nothing to do with her being tall because I'm pretty sure I'm taller than her or whatever taylor swift is. The whole vibe gives off Napoleon Dynamite to me.
i think she’s stunning but that plus the fact she’s been filthy rich her whole life doesn’t hurt at all. her music is bland and so is she lol
i don’t agree with the beyoncé being used as an example, ive seen her have a pretty diverse listening group as it’s typically older men who like r&b enjoy listening to beyoncé especially her older music
Beyonce? Give me a break.
@@rickmerritt128 nigga i’ve seen it personally tf i’m not finna argue w you abt my lived experience nigga stop it
@@childofMotherMaryno masculine dude listens to beyonce lmao 😂 I don't even listen to that b tch
Beyoncé’s not really my cup of tea but she IS very talented. Taylor Swift is vanilla-favored vanilla.
I'm not a swiftie, I've listened to Beyonce's renowned album called Renaissance, I swear it was the most repetitive music I've ever heard.
I don't like Taylor Swift's music because of how generic everything sounds and feels but I have to hand it to her she is a master at marketing and clout building.
She is literally the most commercialized artist out there with the most trademarks out of any other artists in the world. Any controversy she is involved in always is like a ployed to sell something. From her love life to whatever scandals she was associated with. She has been famous for throwing easter eggs at her fans related to her personal life through her music. Many of her fans can't separate her music from her personal life and tried to decode every songs to figure out her life. She make them want to know more about her personal life, love life, dramas, etc. by having her fans buy and listen to her songs. Because they just want juice about her personal dramas they become addicted to it. She will go to the media leave bread crumbs and be vague about something and her fans go listen to her songs to figure it out.
I have to admit lyrically she is a genius because she plays with the audience and pull them in to her life dramas. But musically her sounds and beat is super generic and nothing special. Most of her co-writers and producers who actually produce her sounds are already mainstreams successful with many A-list artists that were famous before her. She had producers and song writers who worked with Brittany Spears, Backstreet boys, Celine Dion, Katy Perry, etc. the list goes on.
She is such a master at marketing and most people wouldn't even notice it's all a marketing ploy.
Even with her masters albums controversy and her rerecording. She saved hundreds of millions of dollars by not buying her masters and gain hundreds of millions of dollars selling her rerecorded albums and with the help of the controversy she was able to promote her rerecorded to be commercially successful and hitting number 1 during it's debut. Most rerecording aren't this successful because most fans already owns the music and heard it before. Also she obviously lied and over exaggerated the situation to help promote her rerecording. She could buy her masters in cold hard cash. She had been offered to buy her masters multiple times by different owners but it will put an huge dent in her pockets because it's sold last for $300 millions. Taylor Swift would need to take out a huge investment loans to buy her masters just like Scooter Braun who by the way is a Billionaire. Her net worth $740 millions is not physically available cash assets but all her assets combine from her properties, investments, and any other assets in her portfolio.
Also if she owns her masters she wouldn't be able to make her money back fast enough because the people who currently owns her masters are losing money in them because the made a poor investment. Those albums been out for over a decade and slowed down in sales.
Making this whole thing about buy "Taylor's Version" is the righteous thing to do and how she is the little artist fighting the Big Machine/music industry. She turned anyone who owns her masters as a public villian is devious and ingenious because they are worth more to her as villians than friends. But hey it's not the first time she publicly turn someone into a villian for her own personal sells benefits.
She still earns royalties from her masters albums because she technically owns the music composition of those album music. Why else she was allowed to rerecord her albums? Why else she was allowed to play all her music from those albums in her Eras tour. She literally said she was worried she can't play her music in her concerts anymore which in fact false. She owns her music just not the Big Machine Studio recordings of it. But hey the average person doesn't know this and will believe what's told to them.
Too me Taylor Swift is a reality TV star of the music industry. People care more about her personal life more than her music. Why else people still talk about all her Exes from a decade ago.
Exactlyyyyy
Great analysis!
"she is a master at marketing"....not really, that's what her marketing mechanism is for. Have you ever heard her try to converse? She's a blank slate.
@@pretorious700 what are you even talking about? How is she a blank slate? She has been in the industry for almost 2 decades. That's beyond a blank slate.
I agree w u but i aint reading allat🤣
I discovered metal a year ago, and I cannot thank myself enough for that
Nah man metals were discovered a long time ago then came non-metals and them metalloids were discovered
Listen to krezugg by heldmaschine and what’s next by warren g
Metal and rock music needs a comeback
@@lucasrogers9055 Lousy
@@eternityfreeblue6377 whatever hater those are nice songs what do u listen to gay sex ?
I dont even take that much issue with the stale chord progressions. I just find her songs to be dull and undynamic, the vocals in particular. At no point do i feel she is baring her soul.
She is to music what monkeypox is to clear skin!
Most modern songs in a nutshell: "Waaa I miss my ex!!!! "
Or “I HATE MY EX”
I'll point this out again...take a look at older songs, and their lyrics. What do you notice? What do you hear? Try Faust on for size. That opera is about selling your soul to the devil. I was told by my poetry and lit teacher (10 years ago), that some of the best works are "written on the dark side." On some levels, yes, but not many.
@@mrnasty02106 but that is art. And talented artist. There is good stuff out there today. Much of it being made by artists in their 70's. A lot of the new stuff can't even be honestly called music. It takes talent to produce good songs and interesting music.
@@rickmerritt128 I get that. My problem is, when you have too much of it (talent). You create some ugly and nasty sounding shit. Look at my playlists. All shit I used to like. I'm glad I snapped out of my alternative nerd phase. Couldn't take it anymore.
She has other songs as well y'all just come with the same bs every time
I can't explain the hatred I have for taylor swift
i can, misogyny
@@taymaf GIRL I'M LITERALLY A WOMAN 😭😭 THAT'S 2PAC ON MY PFP
@@seulgislove still applies
@@seulgisloveeasy: jealousy, envy, pick me, male validation, you're probably a đýķé or you're probably black or mexican.
@@seulgislove Im a huge swiftie but that's literally the funniest thing I've ever read.
Almost every Taylor Swift song sounds like the one you hear in Evangelical Protetestant worship stadiums. Yeah, that overused "inspirational" chord. However her hit "Safe and Sound" is one of my guilty pleasures.
That one introduced me to the civil wars and its also my favorite vocal performance by her
Yeah all sounds the same. I find myself twerking over My Tears Ricochet cuz i mistaken it for Shake it Off
Safe and sound one of her best songs, without a doubt, love story has my little teenager heart, the rest can suck my ass
the problem with taylor is she doesn't have a deep musical talent or identity, so the sound of her songs just solely rely on whatever producer(s) she's working with and their musical identity. it's like with "safe and sound" that song isn't a taylor swift song as much as it's just a civil wars song that she's singing/writing over. just like her albums folklore and evermore. i really enjoyed both of these albums but they weren't her own original sound, they were just aaron dessner and the national making songs for taylor swift that she wrote lyrics to. as much as i enjoy her on a simple level (as i was a young teen when she came onto the scene), i've never liked that she never was a great musician/artist especially for how much we're told she is and especially as time as gone on. i get she was great for us young girls when she was also a young girl, but she's 33 now and been a top professional songwriter for nearly 2 decades and she hasn't progressed as a musician and if anything she's regressed and overwrites. someone like sara bareilles to me is a far superior lyricist, vocalist, and musician yet probably most swifties don't even know who she is.
I'm not religious, but I have an idea of what you're talking about. As far I'm concerned, it shows some progress in worship music. It's less offensive than the countless "hymns and psalms," of centuries past.
I’m going to approach this from my perspective as a musician who has played guitar for over 33 years, and who has a high degree of technical proficiency on the instrument, albeit in a totally different genre of music. I’m also not a fan but I can objectively comment as an outsider with a young daughter who listens to this type of pop, so I’m exposed to it.
Her success lies in her perceived relatability, particularly with young women, as it pertains to what a lot of her songs are about, many focused on men and or relationship issues etc. Also, she started out with this girl with an acoustic guitar vibe who sang average, and was not at a Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, or even Ariana Grande level of vocal virtuosity. I’m a musician myself, but in hard rock and metal, and the least successful acts in that genre, by and large, are those with high degrees of technical virtuosity. The general public, who are not musicians, or aspiring to be musicians, want to be entertained. They don’t care about technical ability because 1) they can’t relate to it, 2) if they aspire to be musicians, reaching Ariana Grande vocal ability is out of reach for many people; someone like Taylor gives them hope and a level of assurance they might be able to do that, and her success reinforces that.
Look I’m not a fan of hers either, but u have to put yourself in the position of say a 22 year female as an example and what sensibilities appeal to them. Taylor, for a variety of reasons, tapped into that. I’m sure the social media world we live in now played a role than if this was 1986, which was my childhood, but it was a much different era in how music was taken in.
I’ll give you another example…there is a video of The Weeknd & Ariana Grande duetting on a song live on TV, it was his song, and she killed it. But many of the comments under the video were “she’s over singing, showing off technical ability, and she’s not serving his song”….now, I thought she did great, but that’s my view as a musician….the general public can only handle virtuosity to a degree before they find it showboating. I’ve had the same criticism directed at me for the same reason. The difference is, I never aspired to reach those career heights. The music is what I cared about…but you have to understand that mass appeal isn’t always going to be a Whitney Houston level talent vocally. The general public doesn’t care about that.
Yes sir i totally agree with your opinion. I am from India and if you listen to any bollywood songs from the 60s , 70s you'll see how much effort they used to put in their singing and their music. They used to have a great tone , range , vocal ability and many more things. Nowadays mainstream singers sings like they are just mumbling with lyrics that are just repetitive and boring. I aspire to be a singer and i won't brag but i am a pretty good one but people just aren't listening to vocally great songs nowadays. I'll give you an example , please listen to this song from the 50s named ' Mere Mehboob Qayamat Hogi ' it's not even the best song vocally from that era but it was a cult classic everything from singing, music, lyrics were absolutely phenomenal , and then listen to ' maan meri jaan ' which is the most famous Indian song of 2022. You'll know the difference between them. I just hope people will stop listening to those autotuned vocals and digitally produced sounds and actually listen to something good.
I think that the big difference between Taylor Swift and other artists is that Taylor Swift is dominating in every aspect in the music industry. From physical sales, digital sales, streaming number, chart success, critically acclaimed, breaking records, awards, touring, intellectual property (master of music catalogue & publishing records), and the most important things is loyal fanbase. So many “die hard” Taylor Swift fans are not only stay for her music but also because of her character (keep being humble and relatable). I think She treats her fans the best among other artists because she has genuine concern to her fans. Taylor Swift main forte is her songwriting. She is not the best vocalist compared other singers out there, but she is amazing with her craft. And she is a savvy business women in the music industry. She is the risk takers and so damn intelligent with her business ownership. There is a great video from “Rap Chanel” that explained Why Taylor Swift is Winning.
Taylor’s forte are mainly her songwriting and story telling. They have their own story and narrative, it’s basic knowledge. I’ll give you some facts, Across Taylor’s discography (>200 songs), she accomplished more than 30% credited for the percentage of songs written solely by her, the highest percentage of the mainstream artists of her generation followed by Ed Sheeran (15.2%) and Adele (14.5%), in fact Taylor Swift is the most successful songwriter of her generation according to Billboard and other music experts both critically and commercially.
The motive and theme of her songs are majority about the complexity of the relationship, about her lover, her ex, her parents, her family, her friends, her band, her fans, her haters and her cats. Her latest project that is album sisters called “folklore” and “evermore” took inspiration from fictional character with little snippet of her story life and talked about Mental Health, Child abuse, World War 2, PTSD, Pandemic, Infidelity, The Last Great American Dynasty (Her House) and so on.
@@romirosta1917 Taylor 💩
Taylor Swift is not taltented in anyway. Her music is simply boring, or meaningless. Sometimes I think she was brought up by a bunch of established musical elites who sponsored her to make more money. That's all.
the general public can only handle virtuosity to a degree before they find it showboating. Yup, unless you can hit those emotional notes that honestly give the song character and feel.
Girls are very tribal and Swift provides them with simple group chants. Also, Swift is a blank canvas that young women can project themselves onto. She is a sort of plastic doll. She is almost asexual. Swift has also come to symbolize girls getting everything they want. In that sense, she is the current version of Madonna. I think that Swift has worked the audience and industry brilliantly but I find her cold, calculating and empty. Her lyrics resonate with young girls but her music is bland to the point of being painful to listen to.
but i like madonna..
no you're just a twat who thinks they know everything.
Nah, Madonna >>>>>
Because young girls are one of the least influential demographics for making actually meaningful culture. So it's no wonder their icon is cultureless.
When you played the sample four chord progression, my mind immediately responded, "She's just a country girl, living in a lonely world. She took the midnight train going any where."
Well when she has the most AMAS awards and has 11 Grammys and breaks records and has made her stance on the modern culture. She ain’t the country girl anymore. It’s not 2006.
@@Error_-ct2vp It was a reference to Journey's "Don't Stop Believing" which featured prominently in Axis of Awesome's sketch about "Four Chord Songs".
@@Error_-ct2vp literally your comment is irrelevant to what they were saying. They were just saying how a melody came to their mind after the sample of four chords .
Then again, I don’t expect reading comprehension from a Taylor Swift fan. Also her having 11 grammy’s means Jack Shit because guess what? For years the grammy’s have been know for being biased and pushing artists that fit their agendas.
So Taylor winning 11 Grammy’s isn’t really a noteworthy accomplishment since we know the grammy’s will snub people and not give the award to people who truly were the people’s pick. Kendrick Lamar lost to Macklemore. That’s the only evidence you fucking need. Taylor winning 11 Grammy’s amounts to nothing except proof she just has ties and connections to really high up people.
True 😂
@@Error_-ct2vp what has this world come to,i agree with war arc sasuke
Sorry but why is there no video for Ed Sheeran ( I like him and his music) when the man literally said on video he uses THE SAME 4 CHORDS to make every single on of his songs yet here we are again with another video bashing Taylor who doesn't actually use the same 4 chords/ template for all of her songs!? Also she doesn't produce all of her songs solo and usually does have other people working with her creating the sounds and in the song writing and production process with her. the only 2 songs of hers which sound similar are The Story Of Us (TV) and Better Than Revenge (TV) but at the same time even though they sound the same they have different feels and emotions projected through the sounds which makes it that more enjoyable! And overall there is no real genre or definition for "modern music" because it will always as a whole be the music from all corners of the planet to shape the industry into what it is today and no 1 artist should be soloed out at a time to give reason on why it supposedly "sucks" (We all have our own tastes and that's it, people should just like what they like and if they don't like someone else's sound or style for music then no need to go commenting or anything if you think about it as it really is just pointless too)
Thank you!
Modern music
Modern art
Modern movies
Modern TV
Modern comics
ALL SUCK!!!
Check out the Weeknd, a true artist in every sense of the word, his music is timeless
What's weird is that media that is indie (indie video games, european movies underground/foreign music, etc.) is automatically good most of the time, whereas popular media (AAA video games, Hollywood movies, pop music, etc.) is bad most of the time.
Oh please There's plenty of older music older art older movies older TV and older Comics that suck too Gravity Falls and demon slayer blows 80s Thundercats and heman out of the water. And Kendrick Lamars music is superior to The Beatles music. Also a lot of Japanese anime manga blows older comics and newer comics out of the water too. just because something is newer doesn't mean it sucks and just because something is older doesn't mean it sucks either it's called opinions
@@kittenscratchanimeart oh please most Japanese AAA games blow indie games out of the water. most indie games are low budget shovelware crap Japanese Triple A's have a ton of work put into them Persona 5 Royal and The Last of Us legend of zelda breath of the wild and dragon quest 11 alone blow all indie games out of the water. the only good indie game ive seen is stray. the only people praising these low-budget shovelware indie games are PC elitists because they know most of their exclusive games suck compared to consoles so they pirate/steal console games. because they're too lazy to go out and get a console like normal pepole. your just blinded by nostalgia and are desperate for attention so your complaining. there's good things about modern gaming and bad things about modern gaming same with older Retro Gaming.
Check out charli xcx, caroline polacheck or the movies like aftersun this year they're some good mainstream yet still experimental good stuff
There is a lot of amazing music some of which is even better than the classics its just not popular because people have shit taste these days
As a kid I grew up around Karen Carpenter, Carly Simon and Carol King. Swift can’t hold a candle to any of those female artists. All three were loved by the general public. Swift will never be one of those talented musicians.
As someone who looked up to her as a teen, I admit I was influenced by a friend to get into her music but what really hooked me at the time was her vulnerability, which is also refreshing to me to see in other artists to this day. The thing for me was she gave off the impression that she was willing to stand out in the beginning but over time it felt more and more obvious that she was simply adapting to the trends in music. I mean that's not uncommon but after the 1989 era... I felt numb.
have u listened to folklore/evermore??? those are not the biggest genres in our times, neither is a 10 minute song. she clearly writes what she wants and does what she wants.
her best albums came after 1989, folklore and evermore are OBJECTIVELY her best albums
@@connorslifeeI love how when someone "gets into" an artist who is mediocre and overplayed there's still people who recommend music by said artist because you know they don't bother listening to it all...metalheads on the other hand
i just went through some of her songs because ive heard so much praise over her work, people say she is iconic and her music is iconic... but i was honeslt just mildly disappointed.
Nothing really ground breaking in any of her tracks. Not bad, But just not what people are making her out to be.
I'm glad I listened to music from the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, as well as classical music when I was growing up in the 2010s. Music today can't even come close to how beautifully written those classic songs are!
That is exactly it. There's literally thousands of years of song writing and melodies absolutely superior in entertainment and quality over anything Taylor Swift puts out. It's hard to understand why anyone would choose to listen to Taylor Swift if they had the tiniest exposure to good music beyond their bubble. Music appreciation is a solo journey mostly obscured by the fn' social media jungle. If you're a Taylor Swift fan, getting to a place where you can enjoy and honestly see the artistry from other time periods is a marathon they are not prepared for. Taylor fans need time and constant exposure to a vast array of sounds outside the limits of their ears 🤣🤣😂🥲🙂😐😑😶😞
Good job! As a huge fan of 60s and 70s music, I totally agree with your takes. Tailor Swift sells an incredible amount of records, but it has close to no relevance outside secondary schools.
Only time will tell what mark she will leave on music, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was forgotten quickly
Her fans a bananas. They’ll never let her fade into obscurity. When TOOL released Fear Inoculum they knocked Swift out of the #1 spot and her know nothing fans lost their collective sh^^, hopping on social media trying to get the rest of the stans to dethrone TOOL.
They couldn’t get it through their thick skulls that an “unknown” band like TOOL could sell more albums than their brainless idol.
You're kidding yourself. She sells too many albums to be forgotten quickly. Never gonna happen.
@@toothgrinder2760 Probably not so much that Tool was "unknown" band as much as that they really suck.
Because she releases 5 different versions of the same damn album and like 8 remix for the single
@@jennyrebecca4daysold grt ur facts right she sold 39 million with 1989
I hate to take music too seriously, but personally I just don’t like the way most popular music sounds. I can’t explain why, I just don’t like it. It’s not deep, and it doesn’t need to be.
It's usually too sleek and too cheerful as if it was produced by a modern Swede music producer.
Ranking the Taylors:
Cory Taylor
Taylor Hawkins
Taylor Momsen
Aaron Taylor-Johnson
Anya Taylor-Joy
My local tailor
Taylor Swift
Hey where is Taylor Lautner he was great as Sharkboy
AY MY LOCAL TAILOR IS GOOD TOO
Dull chords, one note melodies, clever yet shallow lyrics. She is though, a decent person, at least.
Her music is as bland as plain oatmeal. Yes, as a DJ, I've heard a great deal of her music.
The one trick pony does its' one trick very well.
No one actually is "owning the music industry" anymore because everyone is. Anyone can release a song these days and it becomes viral the moment it was released. Look at Pound Town and WAP, that's what people apparently like. If you ask me, the people who own it are the people who are touching the souls of sincere desire for something that throws them off to their hearts.
"moden music suck." listen to cruel summer then say it
Listened to Cruel Summer. Average commercial pop.
@@EchoChamberlain average? mabye you dont know what good music is. she legit has the meaning of good an bad in it with every type of piano and guitar-
and also@@EchoChamberlain i recomend listening to song twice and listening to great storytelling and the notes of good and bad but i respect your opinion
@@EchoChamberlainWhat's wrong with a song being catchy and pop
@@13thSwiftieDepartment it sounds boring nothing interesting about it
Here is a fact that all who love music should know. Elvis, the king of rock grew up poor and that is something that can't be taken away from him. He didn't have a jump start to kick off his career. He had to work to own his craft like so many other musicians of his time. People like Little Richard never had it easy when he first started. That is why their music has a soul. Fast forward to the twenty-first century, and you find musicians like Adam Levine and Taylor Swift who didn't come from a poor backgrounds. In fact, these are genuine rich kids who got into the industry because of Daddy's money and connections. So they had an easy jumpstart to kick off their career. In fact, Taylor Swift's father is a wall street scumbag whom I'm pretty sure profited off of those bank bailouts from the 2008 and 09 crises. So congratulations America, your tax dollars went to Taylor Swift's record career one way or the other. We are living in a time where it is getting harder and harder for those who have talent, but don't have the connections to get noticed and have the public judge their music. Meanwhile, children of the rich and famous are getting jumpstarts, connections, and easy record deals because they are related to someone or their parents know someone. And with giant corporations who prefer safe music to brainwash people into becoming mindless consumers it's easy to sell shitty music all they need is a pretty face. Or don't challenge the system. It is true with that old saying. There are a lot of people who have a lot of talent, and are not getting anywhere in life, because they were not born lucky; and then there are people who have very little or even no talent all having their faces plastered on every billboard. Do I need to bring up the Kardashian-Jenner clan, or every joke rapper, or pop singer, or country music star that doesn't even write their songs and let a Producer and a computer do all the music composing for them. Sometimes I ask myself what is music all for, if it's not meant to reach into the soul, or challenge one's own thinking? If music is meant to sell cellphones and coco cola then this is an industry that is doomed to fail.
Bro you probably think Eminem is the king of Rap and most rappers like Drake are the best acts of this generation 💀
@@AntiStraightMaleSociety I don't even like Rap. Listen to music where musicians actually play instruments.
@@9148H2 Taylor Swift plays guitar and piano 🤔
@@AntiStraightMaleSociety Drake is ass. Eminem, alright.
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Of course modern music sucks. Song writing has become more and more lazy and don’t talk about anything except how much stuff they have. Beyoncé has many “song writers” and all they come up with is “who runs the world. Girls” over and over again. I mean seriously. And don’t get me started on how crappy Hip Hop had gotten.
I think Beyoncé songs for dance she really don't care about the lyrics
Using the lyrics to a chorus that is repeated in every song against Beyoncé is so tired. Because Taylor Swift got lyrics that say haters are going to hate, hate - repeatedly. Taylor has many co-writers. I hate when people that don't listen to a Black artist's whole discography, see it through a narrow lens. Beyoncé has a diverse audience that includes every race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc. The only people that ever have a problem with her are racists, misogynists, and anyone else that is easily jealous.
I read somewhere that the vast majority of corporate record label pop songs, regardless of artist/band or even the label themselves, is written by just two songwriter's. One bloke is somewhere in Europe and the other is in the US. This is why all pop music sounds the same now.
Max Martin! He did Taylor’s 1989, most of The Weeknd’s hits and Katy Perry’s teenage dream which gave her 5 number 1’s mostly written or produced by max. also responsible for most Britney hits!!
Max Martin is a pop hit machine. His first hit was "Hit Me Baby One More Time" that made Britney Spears famous around the world over night. Another guy that comes to my mind is Dr. Luke (a.k.a. Lukasz Gottwald). He's produced and written songs for Katy Perry, P!nk, Ke$ha, Avril Lavigne, Kelly Clarkson and Miley Cyrus. Luke and Max Martin wrote "Since You Been Gone" that's been the most commercially successful song so far by Kelly Clarkson. He wrote/co-produced famous Katy Perry songs such as "I Kissed A Girl", "Hot'n'Cold", "Teenage Dream" and "California Gurls".
Tf that made no sense
Yes and every full moon they turn into wolves
Speak Now was entirely self-written, that's why all the songs follow the same pattern and songwriting structure. I don't understand why people are so against 2+ people co-writing songs. I feel like if an artist has a creative vision and wants to fully express it with help with other people, I don't see the problem. Taylor Swift most of the time thinks of a song idea and fully writes the lyrics or gets co-writers/producers like Jack Antonoff and Max Martin to add to the songs and finish them.
“All you need to be a music star is three chords and the truth.”- my grandfather.
When I listen pop/country music made in the last 20 years it just reminds of the incredibly repetitive, boring, bland Christian rock music I grew up with. I have sort of realized, it's music you're not supposed to listen to, but play in the background of a Target or Walmart.
It’s definitely background music.
You can even make a generic chords progression, but you can have meaning to it that would elevate the song. But with Taylor Swift to Katy Perry to Sis, these people that they play their music at stores, just causes the day to seem longer because their songs are really about anything meaningful.
Nothing meaningful? A song about a child dying of cancer isn’t meaningful? A song about healthcare workers during pandemics and war isn’t meaningful?? You obviously haven’t heard enough of Taylor’s songs to make that claim. I honestly dont care if i get labelled as a “toxic/crazy” swiftie, cuz thats just untrue. 😭
@@sto1enkisses swifties typically have the mindset of serial killers. As a whole, Taylor Swift is morally void and authority integrity.
I would love to see a video about popular music that was popular but good and why! Basically music or artists that changed the game and why.
The channel "Produce Like A Pro" has an ongoing series about "Songs/Albums/Bands That Changed Music"
Like nirvana, lauren hill or queen n stuff?
@@syntheticsilkwood2206 and taylor swift
@@cringekid9638Nirvana and Queen were doing things musically that was different. Nirvana's success popularized alternative rock, and they were often referenced as the figurehead band of Generation X. Their music maintains a popular following and continues to influence modern rock culture.
Taylor Switft's music isn't going to do this.
@@vladtheinhaler8940 Isnt her tour going to on track to the biggest tour ever same with Beyonce they gonna be the top 2
She is talented but fans act like she’s Is the greatest artist to ever live but realty is their is nothing special
Shes even average as far as talent goes
I read in the 70s that that's what fans and teen mags were saying about Donny Osmond. And so the teen cycle continues.
like Radiohead (not that I'd ever say that person lest I'd get bullied for not liking radiohead)
Honestly she sounds like 90s songs and some early 2000s pop songs and then with boring outfits. I honestly honestly am so shocked she’s so famous.
She is a product, she is cute, has people helping her with the freaking MUSIC, she supposedly writes her lyrics. Just a plastic product, an attractive one for the masses.
yeah if you honestly listen to betty who (a very unknown artist) songs like: Missing you, Better, Giving me away, Dreaming about you, Heartbreak Dream; it’s pretty similar to that certain pop style we see everyday. Thats how 2013 was at the time. And Taylor never changed her style since. She never comes up with something new, like a change. Is she scared her fans won’t listen to her anymore if she changes her style of music? I don’t think that should be the case if she does it right
I'm not shocked at all, look at American culture and you will understand why.
I prefer Taylor Swift over a bald white dude who can't rap without saying the F word and being misogynist.
Lmao she sounds nothing like 90s songs. The 90s where great
With the same chords over and over again, I call it supermarket music ':)
you cant tell me “closure”, “the 1”, and “ME!” have the exact same chords
here’s the thing though: taylor swifts strength is not in her backing music, but in her lyrics. young women adore her because she’s relatable. that’s why she’s become so huge, and why she’s become an icon. like you said, she writes about being a young women, being in love, being heartbroken, and though these are very common song themes, they are also things that are fairly universal amongst her audience. i’m not saying that you are intentionally doing this in your video, but often people, especially adult men, with be overly critical about things that young women enjoy. they’re to silly, simple and dramatic, which i think is stupid. let girls grow up and let them enjoy taylor swift. i was never a huge fan growing up, but that was because i wasn’t confident enough in myself to like popular things. all of the people in my life who loved taylor from childhood and are now adults still love taylor. yes, they’ve found more artists, artists you may deem ‘better’ but that doesn’t make taylor swift any less important to them. i think the people who love taylor don’t love her because of musical complexities or immense talent with a guitar or even with her vocals, they love her because she wrote songs that touched them and they related to them. is it wrong to like an artist for these reasons? is being seen as a connoisseur of avant-garde music more important than enjoying what you listen to? i feel like taylor swift and her music being a bit repetitive is not a huge issue. there’s more, lesser known modern music that will check all the boxes you put out for being good music in this video.
I think that the big difference between Taylor Swift and other artists is that Taylor Swift is dominating in every aspect in the music industry. From physical sales, digital sales, streaming number, chart success, critically acclaimed, breaking records, awards, touring, intellectual property (master of music catalogue & publishing records), and the most important things is loyal fanbase. So many “die hard” Taylor Swift fans are not only stay for her music but also because of her character (keep being humble and relatable). I think She treats her fans the best among other artists because she has genuine concern to her fans. Taylor Swift main forte is her songwriting. She is not the best vocalist compared other singers out there, but she is amazing with her craft. And she is a savvy business women in the music industry. She is the risk takers and so damn intelligent with her business ownership. There is a great video from “Rap Chanel” that explained Why Taylor Swift is Winning.
Taylor’s forte are mainly her songwriting and story telling. They have their own story and narrative, it’s basic knowledge. I’ll give you some facts, Across Taylor’s discography (>200 songs), she accomplished more than 30% credited for the percentage of songs written solely by her, the highest percentage of the mainstream artists of her generation followed by Ed Sheeran (15.2%) and Adele (14.5%), in fact Taylor Swift is the most successful songwriter of her generation according to Billboard and other music experts both critically and commercially.
The motive and theme of her songs are majority about the complexity of the relationship, about her lover, her ex, her parents, her family, her friends, her band, her fans, her haters and her cats. Her latest project that is album sisters called “folklore” and “evermore” took inspiration from fictional character with little snippet of her story life and talked about Mental Health, Child abuse, World War 2, PTSD, Pandemic, Infidelity, The Last Great American Dynasty (Her House) and so on.
@@romirosta1917 Taylor 💩
I’m so happy I wasn’t alone in thinking this and am so glad you said something.
Out of all the pop starts, Taylor is the one who writes every single song she makes and produces and directs all her music videos.
Take a second to listen to Folklore, her music is thought provoking and meaningful and many people love her music, not just young girls. Sure the majority are fans who loved her music growing up and enjoy watching her evolution over the years into a full fledged icon, there are fans of hers from all walks of life and different backgrounds.
I could take the other artists mentioned when talking about how mediocre and lifeless modern music can be, but of all people, Taylor Swifr is not one of them.
Do some more research first before going on and on about how mid her music is.
Also, People come for the lyrics. That’s what she’s known for; writing relatable lyrics that can rip your heart out. She just has this gift of painting a real picture in her songs that resonate with so many people.
I just feel it’s a little closed minded to lump every modern artist together under the same umbrella as music that sucks.
I agree. It sucks that people feel the need to make others feel bad for liking things. Like its music! It's subjective like all other fields of Art. Just enjoy what you enjoy, without putting down others and being all elitist about it. :")
i really liked her old music. bad blood, 22, etc. she has really nice music and all her songs had their own unique sound (at least in juxtaposition with each other). now, imo, her lyrics are EXTREMELY weak at best. lyrics like “sometimes i feel like everybody is a sexy baby and i’m just a monster on the hill”. what does that even fucking mean????? is sounds like a chris hansen predator trying to write a biography.
literally ALL of the songs from her new album i’ve heard on the radio sound literally the same. i know there’s not much you can do since some chords are standard with female artists or general pop songs, but just. literally all the new songs sound so similar. i get it’s an album and they’re meant to sort of go together but it’s to the point when i hear it on the radio im not sure WHICH of her new songs it is playing. also from the songs i’ve heard of the new batch they all have the same effect on her voice at some point?? this exact same sort of distant echo effect, like she’s singing in a garage but it sounds more like she’s singing in a tiny tin can. it is an okay effect like as is but every new song has seemed to have this effect on her voice.
taylor swift deserved a lot of her early hype imo before the fans got cultish and just ate up whatever she made. it’s insane how crazy the fan girls are nowadays.
of course i can’t exactly remember more of the goofy ass lyrics when i need to without referencing google which i am too lazy for but in (i think) midnight, the repetitive lyrics that occur at least twice sound like a baby just plugging in words and picking the first ones that rhyme??? one of the segments has like.. “…. covert narcissism blahahablah some other big word blah blah altruism”. and another one was “i woke up screaming from dreaming one day i’ll watch as you’re leaving and life will loose all its meaning (for the last time)” ?? i.. i’m a beginner musician so i just don’t have the proper termology to describe WHY this shit is so off-putting and lazy feeling. the inclusion of the “for the last time” in an even MORE turned up echo effect is like comedy. it just is so goofy and off. and the way she just throws in big words like. i don’t even know. i know a lot of words but i had to look up ‘altruism’ which means probably 50% of people are gonna have to do the same. that’s not a word used in conversation generally so it really feels like she just looked up whatever words rhymed and jammed them into that bridge or whatever part of the song that chaos came from.
i could go on literally all day about how goofy and bland modern TS music is. it has gotten so bad if i even hear a clip of (specifically) antihero on the radio i will verbally say something like ‘omfg no’ and flip the station.
no hard feelings to any fans of hers (i used to be) but to be fair i doubt any of them clicked on this video for obvious reasons uh. but yeah
I like Taylor's music and I am a young woman, but I wouldn't call myself a Swiftie. I have never been able to relate to the romantic sentiments in her music because they are outside of my experience and contrary to what I see in my parent's relationship and my sister's relationship with her boyfriend. What I find appealing about Taylor's music is her skill as a lyricist and her storytelling. You are right, however, about the chord progression. I can't believe I never saw it before!
I'm a young woman and I find Taylor absolutely unbearable.
@@Sianny-J-Lcool
To be fair, they pointed out the use of a chord progression in 6 songs across 5 albums spanning 14 years.
It's the Sensitive Female Chord Progression (usually Am / F / C / G) and it was ghastly and overdone when Marc Hirsh first wrote of it 25 years ago, after an underwhelming experience at Lilith Fair. I can't believe Swift used it - what - 6 times on one album?? Gah. She's cruising for a lawsuit for the "are we outta the woods" cadence and chords as it rips off Mr Brighteyes. Rick Beato would LOVE this.
One of the problems is that songwriters are so young or ignorant or easily led that they don't realize what they're playing. Thus Lorde gets pinged for ripping off 3 earlier songs on her latest album, and she has no idea. (How could you NOT know you were basically covering a Primal Scream song?)
There are very few great musicians who I would consider "total artists", like Bowie or Madonna, but they'll never be widely known, which is also fine: PJ Harvey, Sevdaliza, Mitski. Awards and charts are meaningless, because the labels killed physical merch, in the pursuit of short-term gain, they removed the credibility anchor from any claims of greatness of the music or artist. Promotion is now in the realm of pure post-modern simulacrum.
I’m pretty sure Rick Beato did a video about the prevalence of that chord progression in pop music.
And Madonna as a “total artist” is wild.
I know that chord progression but what does it have to do with "female"?
@@yslgyal4873😂😂😂
Swift didn't use it 6 times on one album. They pointed out her using it six times throughout her career and confusingly decided to include one album cover. It's six songs across five albums spanning 14 years.
While its true that her music may be bland in terms of melody.
You cant really nitpick on her lyrics.
Dont even go there.
Fight me.
LOL
I literally know 2000 songs [and their lyrics] ranging from 1980s songs to 2000s,
Trust me, nothing comes close to the poetic brilliance of her song writing.
yeah no im sorry but um sure there's other artists with lyrics just as deep as hers relating to the same topics. lyrics also depend on the listener, they don't mean anything to me but definitely do to you and thats great. I find lyrics from metal more deep and you don't, thats also great. it's all subjective
@@yamum1480music isn't subjective if we can all agree that lil pump is the one the worst artists then it's not
@Japathic lol but there's a few "people" that do like him some how
@@yamum1480 ikr never understood those people
haven't watched the video so idk if you say this or not but Taylors songs literally all sound the same, and are about the same things, I'm surprised her fans aren't bored of her yet
It's obvious that songs that are not your cup of tea will sound the same, and that's okay. But it doesn’t mean that those songs are bad
Same with Rap songs. They all sound the same and talk shii about women but I don't see you complaining
Weyes Blood, Natalia Lafourcade, Ichiko Aoba, Carly Rae Jepsen, Björk, Jockstrap, Alvvays, Magdalena Bay, Hatchie are/have great modern female artists (lead singers) ... to name a few.
Weyes Blood 😍
Björk is still making music but she's more 90s and early 2000's in her prominence i still love her but calling her modern sounds weird she is still ahead of all of us tho
@Synthetic silkwood she was just one example. Her music is experimental. She changes as years go on, which is why she was included. Iggy Pop is another current artist who was around before the 2000s yet his music is practically unlistenable corporate mush. My point is that modern commercial music may suck but as a whole? Definitely not. I can go on for hours listing different singers, bands, rappers, etc. that are putting out great music with soul.
@@KanyeRaeJepsenIf you dislike Taylor Swift, then I genuinely have no idea how you don't spontaneously combust when you listen to Carly Rae Jepsen.
@@KanyeRaeJepsen Shakira is also talented
Blame the Telecommunications Act that allowed a handful of companies to own most radio stations. The sound became more homogenized and casual listeners (meaning: people who just receive music others program on the radio or just the “Top Hits” playlists rather than those who dig deep to find something that sounds fresh and “different”) are content with what they get. Her music, to me, has no surprises. Her fans talk about how awesome her lyrics are, but I don’t care about that; I want to hear interesting arrangements, orchestration, instrumentation, fresh song structures. I have no clue what Led Zeppelin lyrics are about but it doesn’t matter because the music is so damned interesting. I’m also not stuck in the past. There are SO MANY great bands out there-and more new ones I find pretty much daily.
I agree with the part about Beyonce, but old Beyonce was a generic pop icon. Ever since the release of her “4” album, her sound has changed so drastically and it got more mature. Lemonade shows that, same way does Renaissance. She has her public, but she is so versatille with her sounds that it makes Singles Ladies really badly aged
Damn so i wasnt wrong when i said all of her songs sounds the same
So true, I always find myself dancing to The 1 thinking it was Shake it Off, they are soooo similar (they aren't)
Ah yes I was shaking my ass off to peace cause I thought it was Blank Space
Chords aren’t all that buddy
so you think Ronan, a song about a kid that has cancer, is the same as Shake It Off, a song about ignoring the haters?
Nickelback did it first and at least they sounded kinda cool
She is a good songwriter. “I’m only cryptic and Machiavellian because I care.” That’s not mediocre🙄
That's the worst line I've ever heard.
@@EchoChamberlain Then you haven’t heard bad lines. In case you didn’t know, it means to be super cunning. I wouldn’t expect an illiterate Imbecile like u to know.
That's actually a nice line. Music still horrible as pure shtt.
@@EchoChamberlain worst = your miserable life
She got where she is because her father bought her way into one of the biggest record labels. If you're wondering why she's so popular and successful in a way that seems unjustified by her music (which she doesn't write all of anyway) it's because of pure nepotism and privilege.
Meanwhile she has the nerve to say she'd be more successful as a man, which is entirely wrong. She wouldve dropped off after her first few singles at best were she a man.
I think it’s because men don’t want to be linked to anything feminine. Take the way you described young people, for example. ‘Admired young man’ vs ‘impressionable young girls’. Individual, cool identity vs naive monolith. A lot of all-male, not that original fandoms (e.g., Marvel) are seen as more meaningful than majority-female things. Many male artists sing in C-G-Am-F about various relationships, but that’s not seen as problematic.
I agree with your view on Swift’s unoriginality, though I disagree that indie music is superior. This is just a self-imposed elitism based on your own musical tastes
To think she will most likely beat all music records held by the Beatles and other great artists is tragic
the beatles is mid
@@hoodbitch2764taylor shit is for white girls with failed relationships because they bored the fuck out of their boyfriends
Well if you just sit on your backside downloading music, rather than working to earn the money and then taking a bus ride into town to buy the record in a store, then............so what?
I can't get on board with your point if your point is "young women are stupid."
It's not just the chords or rhythm that ppl focus on, its her words, that's why she's popular. Take blues music for example, im a blues guitarist, and i realized very early that there's million ways to play a 12 or 16 bar nlues shuffle, but the words are what makes these songs memorable. There's only 12 notes, and jazz players have played every one millions of different ways from Miles Davis Giant steps, Herbie Hancock headhunters, Chick Corea electrik band playing Spain 😂, come on dude its chick music literally, bubble gum pop, or three chord man hater songs, cry on your Teddy bear stuff. Not to be confused with technical musical theory.
She's essentially just recording All the Small Things over and over again.
And the biggest difference between Taylor Swift and Lizzo is that Lizzo is actually an extremely talented flautist and has more dynamics than Swift. Swift's music is mid as fuck.
and yet she dominates the biggest grammy award all time with ease like no one else ever. are you seething ??????
Nobody cares about the Grammy Awards. Hardly any average people in the street can name more than two Taylor Swift songs
@@EchoChamberlainexactly!
@@EchoChamberlain she just did the biggest world tour all time. and then put it in cinema and shattered all records there. more than quadrupled beyonce at the exact same time on both fronts. she has supplanted madonna. even madonna said so. shattered the record for album of the year previously held by sinatra. madonna perhaps held the spot but now taylor is more than in rushmore territory. mj, elvis, beatles, taylor. your pals may be ending disney, but you all, like jay z and kanye, are POWERLESS to stop miss swift.
@@naomialana Echo chamberlain will duck all of this.
@@jussieeeeyunnv 2008. agents said you had one chance to make the jump from part time country to pop icon. rent was due. lights were out. 100 dollar in bank! chamberlain's tears were nigh. Taylor came up with LOVE STORY. and the rest is history. from that starting point, to now calling out and emasculating Soros. Echooooooo bow down to her muahahaha
I'm just glad the strokes are still making music
All her hits were written by other ppl, her father bought her way into the music industry, she's a mediocre performer at best, she's not an artist
The first part is certainly not true. She has written/co-written ALL of her songs.
@@learic3240 what I said is absolutely true, anything labeling her as cowriter is laughable, sure she probably wrote the lyrics but without the catchy music (written and performed entirely by other ppl) her lyrics are meaningless and amounts to 7th grade amateur poetry at best. Also not only are other ppl writing her music but they'll coach her on how it should be sung. I worked on one of those writing teams for her and for many other people and I can tell you with 100% certainty that almost NO pop stars write their own music. Sorry if that goes against your ideal view of the music industry, the truth can be hard to handle.
@@mathias8627 Yeah ok, so many renowned professionals have said that she is a great lyricist and even some of her haters admit that her lyrics are at least very good. If a 7th grader can do it, why hasn't anyone else capitalised on it and made shit tons of money as she has. I would like to ask you who did you work for if that's ok.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory, and I always reject those. She has producers added to her material, to enhance it. I've heard it all before. What else is new? UFO's are real (read my comments on that, you'll love 'em).
@@learic3240 While we're on the subject of "if a 7th grader can do it," : 1.) I don't think anyone has, 2.) they're afraid to, 3.) Just the facts (but true), J.S. Bach was a gifted prodigy. As much as I despise and put him down, I'll admit it (speaking of haters admitting/praising someone they hate).
Thank you so much for doing this
I’m a rock n roll man myself, I think the best music was made in the 1970’s.
Bro Alter Bridge music Billions times much more better than her music do you know them
@@MarkJones-b8v 20 year old band bro. He didn't suggest he doesn't know music after the 70s.
Yes, I've never liked Taylor Swift, and yes, those chord progression examples were gruelling as a musician and songwriter, but how are you going to argue that Taylor Swift is a bland songwriter because she emphasizes quality lyrics over creative chord progressions or musicianship when, as far as I'm aware, Bob Dylan is also a similar type of songwriter who writes quality lyrics over simple chords with less-than-brilliant singing?
her "quality lyrics" consist of replaying the same love, hate, or breakup scenario with slightly changed words.
You mean cringe and repetitive lyrics?
@@andmoreagain7 of course
@@ghosted1690She has many songs about other subjects, but you probably didn't know that. And I really recommend her albums Folklore and Evermore, they have great lyrics
Answer: Bob Dylan is overrated. He was a lyricist, a mediocre guitarist, a less than mediocre harmonica player, and with the exception of maybe 2 albums ("Nashville Skyline" being one) an atrocious singer.
Seriously, way way WAY too many people think writing a "song" IS writing the lyrics. The words have trumped the music to the extent that SAYING you are a musical artist has the power to CONVINCE people you are a musical artist. Consequently, a lot of people don't even know what a purely musical artist even is.
I'm not a Taylor Swift fan ,but I have tried to unravel the mystery behind her incredible popularity and success.
#1 Taylor has a nice sounding voice.She may not be as good as other singers,but she has a nice tone to her voice.Besides look at Tom Petty he didn't have the best voice,but you like his voice and attitude.
#2Taylor Is very relateable to teen girls and women who are Taylor's age who grew up with Taylor from her early days .Her lyrics from a girl and women's perspective is very relateable to girls and women.
#3 Taylor is a great lyricist.Im not a fan of hers ,but of what I have heard lyrics are her greatest strength as a musical artist and are what makes her relateable to girls and women.
#4 Social media is also tied into Taylor's massive success.
I wondered about her guitar playing.She must have songs that are in other keys than just C Major huh?
#5 I almost forgot Taylor is beautiful she has pretty blonde hair and pretty blue eyes this is very appealing to girls and women as well as guys regarding how Taylor looks.
Taylor's looks coupled with her incredible relatability make her fit an ideal that girls and women are drawn too.Shes like a real life Barbie to them.
If she looked like a less attractive singer like Megan Trainor girls wouldn't be nearly as interested in Taylor.Taylors supermodel good looks attracts alot of girls and women because she fits a beauty ideal to them and she has a girl next door kind of relatability.
You know, what I actually love about Bowie’s music is the fact that when I go back to the lyrics and read them attentively I often find a new and genuinely exiting way of interpreting them. It happened lately with China Girl and I was blown away by how brilliant the lyrics are if you consider “the girl” in the title as a personification of a drug. Everything just ties together very nicely along with the “swastika” line - famous nazi leaders were often drug addicts (Goerring, Hitler...). And the critique towards western patriarchal society mainly it’s love of power is very nicely fitted in between the lines of what appears to be a naive love song. And the way this whole song ends is just a cherry on top. Bowie was a hell of a writer. I could talk on and on and on about “All the young dudes” or “Five years” or his more recent works as “Strangers when we meet” or “Lazarus” (that one never fails to make me terribly scared of death and in awe at the same time) “Thursdays Child”... these lyrics are just full of different meanings, sometimes hidden in between the lines. I have no knowledge whatsoever when it comes to music but I can recognise a well-crafted, smart piece of literature when I see it.
Well. This comment got insanely long. Since you mentioned Bowie I felt like professing my love to this man’s writing skills. (As you can tell English isn’t my first language and I was probably rambling a bit, sorry :))
Iirc he co-wrote China Girl with Iggy Pop, but yes, he was a hell of a songwriter. Very intelligent man, very thoughtful in his artistic craft. Often played with double meanings and sarcasm so dry, people often mistakenly take those songs at face value.
@@ThinWhiteAxe very creative artist. Many great songs and albums. Beck Hanson reminds me a little of David Bowie. May have been an influence on Beck.
hi robspierre
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modern music sucks because taylor is relevant in the industry
This is so true. She's a great lyricist, but kind of a generic songwriter overall.
I’m a man and I do like some Taylor Swift songs and I absolutely do play them when we go barbecue with the friends, so there’s that. Especially from that 1989 album. No need to use strong words such as “nobody, never, blabla”.
Is she a pop star? For certain. Is she a musical icon? Not for me, but for a lot of, like you’ve said, young impressionable ladies. She’s been a pretty good role model seemingly, so not sure why you need to denigrate her really, or the experience of those young girls.
Swift is not your cup of tea, I get it, but to call her music “sucks” - dunno, man. Open TH-cam or TikTok trending music, listen to some new rap/hiphop cringe crap and that’s what I’d call music that sucks.
Only 4 chords? Honestly, that’s a low bar snobby jab used by 50yo old farts. Most of the best rock songs for example in russian language also have like 4-5 chords and that didn’t stop a lot of great artists and bands to achieve truly legendary status, like Kino, DDT, Chaif, etc.
The same can be said about a lot of English-speaking rock bands, there are often the same 4-6 chords with perhaps few solos here and there.
Who cares about the amount of chords, it’s not chords Olympics. Swift’s music and lyrics are actually decent and at least sound pleasant, unlike a ton of modern music.
I personally don’t think she’s some kind of music icon in a broader sense, like Michael Jackson, or say Linking Park with Chester during Meteora and Hybrid Theory years, and her music isn’t as complex as jazz obviously, sure, but it’s got its place, she mostly writes her own lyrics, she can use instruments, even if it’s not at an absolute level of proficiency.
And while I do not deeply enjoy this modern trend of writing lyrics that are extremely specific and describe in too many small details a personal experience - I am more of a believer in higher concepts and more broader themes that could appeal to more people - her music and lyrics are far, far from the worst offenders.
I kinda think you’ve picked the wrong person to demonstrate “why modern music sucks”. It’s definitely not because of Taylor Swift.
You're not a real man, you're a jelly fish
He is just speaking his opinion so please stop
@@katherine899 so is this commenter? is discourse not allowed?
Swift fans are such salty bitches
Well if you’re going to insult people by calling them old farts you won’t mind me call you an immature, brainless twat with no appreciation for good music.
Couldn't have said it better👏
I think that the big difference between Taylor Swift and other artists is that Taylor Swift is dominating in every aspect in the music industry. From physical sales, digital sales, streaming number, chart success, critically acclaimed, breaking records, awards, touring, intellectual property (master of music catalogue & publishing records), and the most important things is loyal fanbase. So many “die hard” Taylor Swift fans are not only stay for her music but also because of her character (keep being humble and relatable). I think She treats her fans the best among other artists because she has genuine concern to her fans. Taylor Swift main forte is her songwriting. She is not the best vocalist compared other singers out there, but she is amazing with her craft. And she is a savvy business women in the music industry. She is the risk takers and so damn intelligent with her business ownership. There is a great video from “Rap Chanel” that explained Why Taylor Swift is Winning.
Taylor’s forte are mainly her songwriting and story telling. They have their own story and narrative, it’s basic knowledge. I’ll give you some facts, Across Taylor’s discography (>200 songs), she accomplished more than 30% credited for the percentage of songs written solely by her, the highest percentage of the mainstream artists of her generation followed by Ed Sheeran (15.2%) and Adele (14.5%), in fact Taylor Swift is the most successful songwriter of her generation according to Billboard and other music experts both critically and commercially.
The motive and theme of her songs are majority about the complexity of the relationship, about her lover, her ex, her parents, her family, her friends, her band, her fans, her haters and her cats. Her latest project that is album sisters called “folklore” and “evermore” took inspiration from fictional character with little snippet of her story life and talked about Mental Health, Child abuse, World War 2, PTSD, Pandemic, Infidelity, The Last Great American Dynasty (Her House) and so on.
In conclusion, this video is trash. Clearly you are just an ignorant old hag. How come you just trying to call out Taylor for doing her job and not for the other artists? Is this how you cry of jealousy of her success or your internal sexism/misogyny? You’re just idiot, pathetic! Clearly you are trying to under cut Taylor success but At the end of the day, Taylor doesn’t need validation from a random coward, ignorant and a bully like you. I pity you, are you ok? Who hurt you? Get some help! You guys are just a bunch of hater, ignorant and a coward. Do your own research! Pathetic 🤧💀
@@romirosta1917 Taylor 💩
Ok, I am a MALE a swiftie and I do know multiple male swifties. Secondly, the reasons that I liked Taylor was because of one song that really got me through the toughest time of my life. And from that I listened to other songs and for me music is enjoyment and relatabality and that mainly comes through the lyrics so I don’t care much for the chords(my brother who is more of. A musician will obviously say the opposite) and I rather care more for lyrics. Taylor’s lyrics are truly amazing. She isn’t the best artist ever, but she is for me. So that’s why me and most swiftie defend her so much and stuff
I respect your opinion but do you agree she is overrated? Almost every teen girl i know are obsses with taylor swif and spending their money on her. But i understand how she could help you though tbad times but her lyrics are very basic and tell the same story almost everytime.
@@ライラアーWhat is it exactly people want when they try to downplay her talent? To “calibrate” others’ rating of her? I find that a little sad. No sane person is blinded to the fact she isn’t some kind of GOAT. Maybe you should put more energy into bringing up all the other artists you think deserve to be on the charts. If being on the charts and making money is somehow important.
@@ライラアーdo you also agree that Eminem is overrated and overly hype with males? His music is more pop than real rap and lyrically he's not all that. Dude has to use offensive language towards homosexual men and women to be a "songwriter"
@@AntiStraightMaleSociety"lyrically not all that"!?!?! The only people who think that are people who have never studied lyrics! The sad thing about Ems lyrics is that most people will miss the brilliance he writes - the assonance, alliteration, family rhymes, superb use of repeating fricatives nasals and plosives. Em's lyrics are densely packed with every variation of rhyme and every poetic device in the book.
No one is on the same planet as eminem.
@@mikesmithz he can't rap without insulting homosexual men. It's basically his ñ wørd. Not to mention his new songs are ãss but whatever, you say dude.
Beyoncé caught strays in this video. Her music is anything other than repetitive. I think she is blowing that idea out of the water as we speak. She just went from disco ballroom to a country fusion album FLAWLESSLY
Only reason she did that is because country is on the come up as a genre and is the 3rd most popular genre. She has industry backing which means she has the best producer, writers, singers, players, etc. she undoubtedly doesnt write her own material. Where as Taylor Swift, despite being super simple, she writes her own music. Not saying either is better but comparing two popstars is like comparing a orange to an apple. Theyre both fruits regardless
@@bigfella957Rotten fruits.
That last “and again” 😂 are these really all from midnights? That is baffling.
No, those are songs from across several albums released over a decade and a half. No idea why they decided to put the Midnights album image there the whole time.
I promise you
Her fans are not obsessed with her as musician
They love her because of her lyrics
But don't the lyrics reflect her as a creative person, aka, a musician? And when you have lyrics as simple as "we'll always be bad blood...so take a look what you've done...", are her fans truly dumb and ignorant and don't care? Are they blissfully ignorant? The songs and lyrics are beyond boring and the melody alone is horrible.
her lyrics are trash
I believe the lyrics for some of her songs are great such as Love Story, but most of her songs have very generic or just very meaningless lyrics that don't have much impact...
Incredible lyrics in my opinion are songs from older artists and bands such as Air Supply, Bon Jovi, Scorpions, Queen.
I'll give you some songs:
1. Still Loving You By Scorpions
2. Bed Of Roses By Bon Jovi
3. Always By Bon Jovi
4. Making Love Out Of Nothing At All By Air Supply
5. Here I Am by Air Supply
6. Someday I'll Be Saturday Night by Bon Jovi
7. Bohemian Rhapsody By Queen
8. Too Much Love Will Kill You By Queen
9. Right Here Waiting By Richard Marx
10. Lost By Linkin' Park
There are a couple of songs which I believe have absolutely Beautiful lyrics at a level to which Taylor Swifts songs just don't reach
@@Hadex01 Most of her songs that have generic lyrics are her singles, but her best writing is in other songs. I really recommend songs like Dear John, All Too Well, Out Of The Woods, Cornellia Street, My Tears Ricochet, Champagne Problems and You're On Your Own, Kid
i don't understand the appeal of her lyrics, they sound like disney songs that would be written for 2008 movies like camp rock, they're so generic and the metaphors are so simple. they really sound like they were written by AI for children
Enjoy your work. Algorithm engage.
You spoke nothing but truth.
Plain oatmeal spoon fed to fans that mistake hype and community for actual good music. Anyone could stand in her place. Just like Beyoncé.
That could be key to what repels me. I've been ostracized from every community I ever tried to join. Why take a chance? 😮
I don’t like taylor swift but the chord progression C G Am F that she uses that’s “generic” is also the progression of Let It Be by the Beatles so even the greatest musicians use that lol
They didn't overuse it and it sounded good for the track.
BUT the Beatles had through this chord progression a genius memoriable melody. AND the piano, bass, organ, horns, backing vocals, pauls lead vocal, guitar solo, and not to forget production gave it an iconic sound. Also the way a band plays together gives a specific groove. As a result a song sounds interesting and alive. That makes an HUGE difference! The lack of all those parameters in Swifts music makes it so boring.
Putting Beyoncé next to Taylor Swift and Harry Styles feels very disingenuous to me. That woman can sing circles around the entire music industry, yet people still use Single Ladies as jab at her music as if she hasn't released incredible, boundary-breaking bodies of work since then. Be for real.
Beyoncé doesn’t write any of her own music doesn’t play an instrument and yes she has a strong voice but it’s not Whitney Houston strong so what is she? Just corporate trash for blacks
The song is terrible though
this video can be summed up as: “taylor swift is not a musical icon because she’s not cool like bob dylan”
As an artist she’s the epitome of boredom but so are the white business school aspiring teen girls who listen to her music. I cannot understand the massiveness of her success.
If you're looking for great music in the same generation, I strongly recommend:
1. Paolo Nutini (UK) - "Candy"
2. Rumer (UK) - "Slow"
3. Marlon Williams (New Zealand/ Australia) - "When I Was A Young Girl"
4. Kings of Convenience (Norway) - "Rocky Trail"
5. Weyes Blood (USA) - "A Lot's Gonna Change"
And KT Tunstall
These are good ones. My thanks.
1. is amazing, but it's not current music. I am finding it so difficult to find good music created after 2020
@@ornellagreco4918 Check out Nutini's "Through the Echoes"
Being *Tone-Deaf* is a curse and a blessing 🤔
right i mean i dont understand any argument in this vid.
That is true. Tone deaf people have outstanding tastes in music (and all things in life), but can't sit down and play an instrument. Look at history. Just ask Laurens Hammond (I wish I never knew this guy's name). I can think of several inventors and intellectuals (like him), that are in love with opera, theater, classical music, and all things mushy, embarassing, and retarded. Oh, the things you love when you're intelligent/have a high IQ.
I still think, the deeper the work/piece/song, the more it sucks balls, the mushier it is. I understand applying emotion and shit, but sometimes, it's too much. There is much worse than Taylor Swift. Why are we wasting time making hate videos like this? This is the modern world. I find it interesting how (through YT), there are millions that are stupid enough to like...Bach (as I was trolling videos with his works in them).