How Atari Crushed My Dreams.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- So I ordered some new stuff from the new Atari. Two CX78+ controllers, a 5 ft. extension cable, and a copy of Fatal Run. I tested it on my Atari 2600+ and actual Atari 7800 to see if it worked. I also tried the new game pads on the 2600+ and real Atari 7800. There's only one slight problem with this shipment and I have some advice for Atari's future shipments...
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Number #1 rule - Never buy directly from Atari. Their shipping time sucks (many months later) and so does their packaging (lack of proper) techniques. Amazon has lightning speed shipping, and if you don't like how they packed it, you can easily return it for a full refund/replacement. For the most part, all items offered through Atari can be purchased from Amazon. And on another note... I want a fresh copy of Robotron 2084 and Dark Chambers for the 7800!!! Just my two-cents!!! Love your channel, Greg & GAME ON DUDE!!!
It's really changed. I remember ordering Lynx and Jaguar games direct from Atari and never had a problem. Appreciate the support. :D
I experienced bad lag also. If you set your TV to ‘Game Mode’ - the lag goes away.
I credit Atariage forums for this info!
I really want to like the 2600+. I got one, and it has reignited my passion for gaming. Started playing games that I loved as a kid, but I noticed that I kinda sucked at them now. Then I got a 2600 jr, and suddenly I was much better. It was all lag not my failing eye-sight and reflexes. Note, this using the same TV, just different inputs (composite vs hdmi). The lag with 2600 games on the 2600+ is relatively small, so it's only on certain games that I notice it, such as cosmic arc (the asteroid field). So next, I picked up some 7800 games and they seemed to have even more lag. So, that lead me to pick up and repair a 7800 which has become my new go-to device for 2600 and 7800 games. I know that the 2600+ uses a different emulator for 7800 games, so maybe that's the cause of increased lag?
I bought the new controller, and it's been great! I'm definitely eyeing Ninja Golf and Food Fight, then I can also check if the lag is present.
Thanks for doing these videos, they're great!
My copy of Fatal Run and my 7800 controller-- Their boxes weren't crushed, and I'm quite surprised.
Impressive.
Nice that this works wonderfully as a two button controller on Colecovision
Packing it the way you show won't help. That box will turn over many times from them to you which would also crush the box.
I work in shipping and whoever shipped your items broke the cardinal rule, that items in the box must have enough packing material so that the items inside the box cannot move. Had they done that, the game box probably would have avoided being crushed. It's also possible that the box was already damaged prior to shipping and they sent it to you like that anyway.
1:47 also that would not have prevented the game from not being on the bottom when you factor in that the box is gonna be flipped constantly in transit. The people who handle packages do not give a shit, even if it was covered in fragile stickers or "this side up" stickers.
Maybe. The real problem was forcing the box closed like I showed at the very beginning. That’s what really damaged the game.
I recently took possession of a 7800 Pro system that came with a couple of dozen games, but the original joysticks don't work, so I'm waiting for these CX78+ gamepad controllers to come back in stock so I can get a couple.
I've considered getting a 2600+ now that I have game cartridges, but that emulator delay is just not acceptable.
I just need controllers that work.
I'm tempted to get a couple of those extension connectors. We used to have to build those ourselves back in the day.
Didn't know 2600+ had input delay but yeah these cx78+ controllers and ninja golf re release dope
I like the gamepads.
Majority of the delay would be the TV which makes me wonder why they didn't include AV output
your dream was not crushed it was just a box that was crushed
unless your dream is a box in which case yeah i guess so
That sucks -- but there's really not a "top" or "bottom" in the shipping business, unless the customer is paying a lot extra for there to be a box orientation. Padding and more box volume was probably needed...
My Fatal Run was crushed too. Lame packaging..
Did you get gamepads too?
@@GregsGameRoom I got one
That sucks. I'd be upset if the game box was damaged like that. I ordered three games, and they arrived undamaged. I would reach out to customer service.
I only did it once and found the rep very helpful. I wanted to add a third game to my pre-order so I wouldn't have to pay for shipping twice. I didn't realize that I forgot to add the third game to my order until after I hit the order submit button. He added the third game to my existing pre-order without fuss.
1:57 ANNOYANCE LEVEL RISING!
Greatly enjoyed the video. Thank you for the review. My experience has been a little bit different. I preordered everything with amazon, and not atari direct. Amazon has decided to ship every item separately, and with even worse care than atari lol. Fatal run came fine, but they decided to ship food fight included with a bag of dog food in the same box and absolutely crushed the box far worse than yours. Two extension cables shipped individually, one crushed by usps. The only thing that came undamaged were 2 controllers. And of course, what I wanted the most, Ninja golf has not even shipped, so I'm sure I will be waiting weeks for it to arrive, considering my 2600+ preorder was over a month late via amazon. Good times lol.
At least you got your extension cord. i didn't get mine, but it was on the slip
I hope you got that rectified!
Game mode on your TV makes a huge difference with the 2600+. Seriously, it kept me from returning mine. Otherwise, just stck with the crt. No lag there.
not everyone has TVs that are good. A lot of people buy cheap TVs that cut corners on HDMI inputs or have older TVs before they got good with that.
The 7800 is one of the most underrated systems of all time! I honestly don't even remember it being released back in the day when I got my NES.... but then again I didn't remember the Master System either lol.
All except the fact it only outputs to the RF switch. That kinda killed it for me. Oh I have the GameDrive, but I have no desire to shell out 350 bucks for the RetroTink 5X.
Nice video. I love your metal Pac-Man poster! I feel that despite being an iconic game for the 7800, with beautiful graphics and a wacky concept, Ninja Golf gets old quickly. It's just more of the same, over and over and over again. And that's my biggest complaint about 7800 games in general, they get boring quickly. The same can be said of Fatal Run, I feel. These games are available in Australia from Big W and JB Hi-Fi, but I just don't like them enough to justify spending 44 AUD (about 30 USD) on them. Maybe Food Fight. I think I like that one best of the 3. But my favourite original 7800 game from back in the day has got to be Ms. Pac-Man. What an awesome port! I'm not sure about the controllers. I sold my original 7800 euro gamepads because I thought they felt a bit spongy & nowhere near as good to play with as say an NES gamepad (heresy, I know :D). Instead, I got myself a micro-switched joystick which works really well for - you guessed it - Ms. Pac-Man.
I have the Europe 7800 Controllers. They are cool, but a Sega 6 button with a adapter is my go to for 2 button games on the 7800. The new rerelease games look nice! I might get Food fight just for the color label.
I like the Genesis pad too, but I wanted to be more "official" by getting the Atari pads. ;-)
This is a nitpick, but you literally had a copy of the new Ninja Golf release in order to compare your old copy of Ninja Golf with. It would make seeing the differences between the old and the new a hell of a lot easier.
I have an original first run Atari 7800. Had to convert that weird two prong jack to a standard barrel connector. But overall? I love my Atari 7800. Has quite a few unique games like Food Fight, Desert Falcon, and Ballblazer (has the 2nd sound chip). A decent Galaga and Xevious Port. I don't know if they are still in business, but Atari CA has rebuild kits if you still have the original joysticks for the 7800. The only problems with them stem from usually the carbon dots being dirty, or the worn plastic ring inside the stick. I bought a set of joypads from Atari to complete my 7800.
But as for Atari? I do suggest caution. They have a bad habit of packing things and having no popcorn or air pads to fill the boxes so damage is really a problem with them. I also got an Ataribox and it really is a good machine when you add a copy of either Ubuntu Linux, or Windows. It's an emulation beast and really plays the classics (Including 7800) pretty spot on. It's a good buy when it is on sale. I got the Onyx Edition for 129.00 and it is both my server and emulation console. Keep up the good work on the Atari videos!! It's a good deal if you can look over some of the problems they have.
I have always been puzzled with the fact that the 7800 in the US and Canada was launched with such crappy controllers.
The 7800 controllers were originally designed in 1983-84, and thus that style was the expected standard back then. When the 7800 was eventually released in 1986, it was only after sitting in a warehouse for two years. Furthermore, the superior European controller (CX-78) came out in 1987.
I really want a CX78+ -- but with a USB cable.
The dpad style for the atari is the only type I had, never had the 7800 joystick two button style, I hope they release that style.
What’s nice, with the new cartridges, is they don’t have the plastic punched out on the front panel. Gotta love it, when the game label get damaged in the corners! What a cheapo move Atari Corp! What would it have cost, not to do this? An extra penny or two?
I need to get a couple of these game pads
The Master System Joypad had a screw hole for a joystick too.
And the Master System Joypad works flawlessly on the 2600+ I know, because I've tested my own... YAY!!!
The ONLY reason to buy games from Atari is to collect them in some capacity. Do do this, customers need their games UNDAMAGED. This happens WAY too often and they really need to change their training for the shipping person/department.
Probably some kid getting paid minimum wage who doesn’t care.
@@GregsGameRoom you really think so? I wonder sometimes how small of an operation Atari really could be.
Does that TV have 'game mode'? I'm playing my 2600+ with a gaming monitor, not feeling any lags or delays. I ordered my carts from Amazon UK and the boxes were still dented. You can 'undent' them easily, not really an issue for me.
A few years ago Atari released a 3D version of Ninja Golf for Android (maybe iPhone too?)
I would have returned all that…. Unacceptable
I bought food fight from Amazon. I returned it twice because they sent it in a bubble envelope and the game got crushed. After the 2nd time they just refunded $6.10 :/ sigh. I feel for you
I woulda raised hell about the game being crushed. When shippers do that it's flat out disrespectful. Amazon is bad about doing that too, bought this huge omnibus they shipped it in a box big enough to fit two of them in there, zero packing. Anywho, cool vid, I wasn't aware they were re-releasing that much new stuff outside of just the 2600+. Makin me wanna play some Food Fight :P
Yeah, and there's probably more re-releases coming.
My CX78+ controller box was crushed :(
Those boxes are heartier than the games too!
So the "new" Atari is CRUSHING it?!?!? 😂
EXACTLY! Haha!
Try any 2600 paddle game and then you'll REALLY find out what delay means lol. I bought the paddles but they are useless on the 2600+ but work perfect on a real 2600 and I was able to play long enough to beat one level of Super Breakout. Atari needs to hire someone with some knowledge to work on their 2600+ analog to digital controller code because currently they have no clue!
Mine was fine, good Job Atari! Sorry about yours (send it back, Hold'em Accountable!)...But AMAZON; Sending out Atari games in white bubble mailers?? Then the returns go back to Atari (who sent them to Amazon in Perfect shape in the first place!)? What the Hell is up with that?
Have you ever worked in shipping. It sucks. Sometimes, people don't care because the work to pay ratio is terrible. They probably got to pack soo many in a time limit. Be kind to those people. Also if you order from gamestop be even kinder to them they got to run a store and do shipping
I'm not unsympathetic. However, respect flows both ways.
Same thing with my copy…..
I know who packed those, it was Krammit The Frog.
Mmm.... refund on Fatal Run. I still have to try out the cx78+ I ordered.
Sucks that Atari doesn't seem to know how to pack multiple items in a box. They should've just used a bigger one for what they sent you. I doubt the extra packing material would cost that much. It's a pity I didn't spring for one of the Euro game pads earlier, as Atari is sold out. Hopefully they'll do another run of them.
If they sold out, I can almost guarantee they'll do another run.
For as long as they’ve been in business, I’m floored that they’d make such a huge packing blunder. Sorry about that Greg!
pffft. is this comment serious ? you do know Atari hasn't been in business that whole time right ? it's just a name sold and bought multiple times and used as a brand ?
I make companies send me a return shipping label and replacement for free. It's the principle of the thing 😤
I'm not an expert but I believe that plasma TV's have a greater delay. Same goes for the CRT version.
Everything I've read is that plasmas have no lag. (Which is one of the reasons I bought it in the first place.)
@@GregsGameRoom I might be thinking of a plasma CRT with HDMI 🤔. If I come across it again I'll let you know.
I've been kicking gophers like an idiot.
Haha! I did the same thing for years.
Hope they fix this for you.
Man that sucks about the Fatal Run box. I wanted both that and Ninja Golf but didn’t need them since I haven’t owned a 7800 for some time now. I had nitpickings about the new boxes as well, not sure why they made the screenshots so small and the omission of the ProSystem text on the labels. I do like the cardboard sleeve idea though. And why put a rating on it? Definitely not necessary. Like really, fatal run is for everyone? No way 😂 but the end label text is really the worse aspect of it all.
I think they have to be rated thesedays.
Boxes don't have a top or a bottom.
The the labels do.
the delay could easily be your tv. try game mode?
Already done long ago.
I got no problem with input lag. using the latest experimental firmware and a TV with low latency input lag HDMI inputs (Boost mode on LG).
good luck keeping your packed box on top when it is in transit. your solution is practically no better than what they did.
they should have used a larger box with packing material if you don’t want a crushed box.
Compressing a box like they packed it is far worse.
The 7800 is both _the worst_ console of all time, *and also* the most disappointing: the Sharp x68000 was being sold in Japan in 1987… and Americans were expected to be buying the Atari 7800, launched in 1986?
It was extremely dated. Had some really good arcade ports, a few of them better than the NES. But they were the games of yesteryear. It should have come out instead of the 5200 and a couple years earlier like it was supposed to.
Yeah the Sharp x88000 was a powerhouse but extremely pricey.
it's hardly the worst console of all time, I mean, 3DO ? CD-I ? come on now. lost all credibility with that
Thats Hor$e ####
I'd Make them Replace it, or Give you a Discount
Not really worth the trouble. :-/
Unpopular opinion totally based on experience. The European pad is crap. The feeling is awful and the buttons are way too far apart. They are completely mistified and totally not worth the price.
I have been playing with an original CX-78 for years, and I like them.
Well its only $29 and I like stick on dpad and buttons seems fine apart, but I respect all opinions. These cx78+ and nes 2600 on ebay both $30 , both decent
Yeah, the Space Age joystick is way better. ;-)
I have used the cx-78 for years, way better than contemporary game pads of the time!
As a kid, it was all I had. They're better than master system pads, not as good as nes pads. About what you might expect, really
These games looks like sh1t. No wonder they killed video games in the 80s, literally. Now people buy these for the fancy covers. 😢😢😢
What were you expecting? Crysis 3? I’m guessing you have no concept of the evolution of video games.
@@AngryCalvin He doesn't. You'll always have someone expose their brain this way on the internet tho, might as well just laugh at it. Guess he was expecting some 16 bit action lol