I appreciate you with my heart your words touches the heart, others have been exhausting by repeating years over years the same thing , you come like a fresh breeze and your teaching has been very effective. Thank you Spira.
Elsewhere, Rupert discusses "compassionate concessions" that one sometimes has to make to the (fictional) seperate self. As I understand it (for lack of better framework, from a psychological perspective), in some cases, attempting to appeal directly to the True Self has the opposite of the intended effect, as it causes the ego to panic, deploy defense mechanisms, double down. A certain degree of awareness is necessary before there can be any receptivity to direct pointing. To belabour the John Smith/King Lear analogy: if John Smith believes himself to be King Lear, he thinks and acts on Lear's behalf. What does a king do if someone insists that he is not the king? Not listen with open and intent curiousity, that's for sure! More nuanced and skillful means would be necessary in order to guide Smith back to himself.
It’s the same as the concept of the power of now, staying in the present moment to establish yourself as the I am. The Being behind the life. 🙏❤️ love this video and explanation. Thank you for teaching ❤️
α) You know you are β) How do you know it? γ) And with what did you know it? This is the sum total of my teaching,needed to put you on the right track,its very quintessence. Sri Nisargadatta-The ultimate medicine
This is a great summary. The only issue is that some people do need to develop some focus and stability of mind before being able to take a stand and abide as that. If it were that easy, everyone would be self realised. That is why progressive paths place an emphasis on developing certain skills before abiding as that, and why most non dualists are walking around deluding themselves that they’re already enlightened and living their so called truth. Otherwise, yeah, it’s simple and a “fast” route.
I think it’s simple in the sense that when you realize the being that you are, the understanding of what you should be doing to stay aligned to your most true being and self becomes evident. So the work that you should be doing, mental and physical(meditation, breathing, yoga, walking, whatever) will naturally follow when you’re aligned to your being. The other spiritual practices focus too much on the physical, or the mental, or “ascending” your soul now, instead of truly embodying the being that we truly are behind it all
@@panes840 IMHO, we need to realize our essential nature is being ( what I am), and not form (what I do). I guess this is what myv3sa means by "align ourselves." I think if you watch more videos of Rupert, he will guide you to observe your essence. His videos have certainly helped me. Blessings!
Rupert often says, “I don’t mean to imply any criticism of these other ‘progressive approaches’, they are perfectly valid.” He’s just being polite and diplomatic, and doesn’t want to alienate people. His whole approach exposes the dualistic seeking trajectory of most conventional spiritual and religious traditions and the methods they use, which keep people stuck, confused and distracted. He’s just too ‘nice’ to be upfront about it.
...Or he doesn't pass the judgements about them that you appear to have and that most of us do. Those paths also have a place. Otherwise they wouldn't be here. Blessings.
Rupert dedicated a significant time of his life in some of the dualistic paths. I think he sees some value in them - for some evolution is needed. In fact it could be said that some of the other paths played a key role in his own spiritual evolution.
@@Janeoffools The consciousness. Living in another consciousness. Also - and perhaps more esoteric or difficult for most people to deal with or even admit - transformation of the so-called physical. I used to be deeply involved with Ramana's teaching. Still am. But it is limited. It's great as far as it goes, but there is much more. If you are seriously interested in other transformations, see the section titled "The Triple Transformation" in Sri Aurobindo's _Letters on Yoga_ You can find those volumes free online, through several different websites. He warned against the common illusion among vedantins that their version of realization (or "self-realization" or "the Self" or "the true self") is the only, the final, or the ultimate.
@@viveviveka2651 what can be more ultimate than consciousness? If reality is consciousness how can you state that you can live in another consciousness? That would imply there is more than one consciousness. You are negating advaita
@Janeoffools You are right in a sense that discovering to be John Smith is way more important and should be prioritized, but King Lear is still part of the simulation, so nothing wrong in upgrading his skillset if it's supposed to happen. It will just happen a lot more effortlessly and playfully, as it's recognized that it doesn't really matter that much. Life becomes like playing a video game in demo mode in a sense, as we don't really have control anyway (but should still pretend we have it, as otherwise we end up like couch potatoes :-D)
This is blowing 'my mind' as a Course iñ Miracles.' 'student,' for 25 years. 25 is a good number. I am me, for God's sake. And me knows who it is, this moment. OMG have I 'suffered with anxiety', the more 'time' has passed, the more 'Queen Lear' I became. Thank you. And I loved the video on the 'chooser' in heaven. It's already chosen for me. I need do nothing.
But you do this too Rupert. Every time you say 'as a concession to the mind' you do EXACTLY what you say these 'other' spiritual paths do - ie you talk directly to the apparent separate self. Which in truth you do quite a lot. So that IS what you 'do here' as much as you deny it in this segment.
But is not any teacher and their specific teaching simply another appearance of some character and their story in King Lear's dream? If not, we would have to consider that Rupert and whoever is the collective “we” in the statement “that’s not what ‘we’ do here” are essentially John Smith incarnate, speaking to us, not? I’ve only passively watched these videos, so there may be some fundamental assumption I have missed. In this teaching, has the significance of the activity been established for the sake of understanding the screen/activity analogy, or the John Smith/King Lear example? Is the activity meaningless to true nature? Is the screen the only thing that really “is?” I’d like to know that context if someone would please fill me in. If so, is not following the teaching just part of a story I might dream as King Lear? If not, then I am I not left to discern which activity is meaningful to finding my true nature and which is not? This teaching does seem to require the inquisitor to accept some activity as meaningful and some as simply dream activity. Very open to further explanation of this message/communication.
The teaching is only meant to be a pointer to free you from the illusion. It is something that must be experienced, the teaching can only serve as a pointer to that experience. Once you are no longer fooled by the illusion you may find that the illusion has meaning or purpose, but for a teaching to try to explain what that meaning is would only be a story caught up in the distortions of the illusion.
@@bensanterre9478 Pointing is an action that needs an originator, so that does not explain the discrepancy in this teaching. This, like all philosophies and religions falls apart at some point and requires a leap of faith.
its amazong that a baby has no mental limintations. then proceeds to build limitations then eventually has to destroy them again its intelligence and consciousness developing, changing, adapting, etc... adding removing
@maks, Consciousness is like the movie screen. It has no identity. The Mind creates the Illusionary me and self via thoughts and stories. It is the mind that seeks, IMHO. PEACE
@@cps_Zen_Run It may have no identity, but it is alive, indeed only Consciousness is alive, therefore only Consciousness can do anything freely, the mind is like a machine, very sophisticated but yet lifeless.
how can an imaginary character "go to his essential self". how would harry potter do that, or do anything, since he doesn't exist as anything more than a story.
How did we come from consciousness is everything to consciousness needs to disidentify? K. Make up your mind dude 😂😂 At this point all what this mind needs is peace and rest
I understand what Rupert is saying. Basically there is only one consciousness aka God. Correct? But he doesn't answer why there is (the appearance of) diversity or otherness within this one consciousness. Can anybody explain this to me? Personally I think it is related to Genesis 2:18: it is not good to be alone. But want to hear what other people think. So please let me know.
Yes & No. You identify yourself as a wave. The illusion is sustained.... when illusion is seen as the illusion... it dissolves... you will know that you are the ocean. Waves will keep appearing and disappearing, it's their nature, timeless awareness is yours... i. e. the tranquility and bliss of being the ocean.
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I appreciate you with my heart your words touches the heart, others have been exhausting by repeating years over years the same thing , you come like a fresh breeze and your teaching has been very effective.
Thank you Spira.
🙏Dear Rupert, Thank you so much for your words ॐ ❤
Elsewhere, Rupert discusses "compassionate concessions" that one sometimes has to make to the (fictional) seperate self.
As I understand it (for lack of better framework, from a psychological perspective), in some cases, attempting to appeal directly to the True Self has the opposite of the intended effect, as it causes the ego to panic, deploy defense mechanisms, double down. A certain degree of awareness is necessary before there can be any receptivity to direct pointing.
To belabour the John Smith/King Lear analogy: if John Smith believes himself to be King Lear, he thinks and acts on Lear's behalf. What does a king do if someone insists that he is not the king? Not listen with open and intent curiousity, that's for sure! More nuanced and skillful means would be necessary in order to guide Smith back to himself.
It’s the same as the concept of the power of now, staying in the present moment to establish yourself as the I am. The Being behind the life. 🙏❤️ love this video and explanation. Thank you for teaching ❤️
the crazy thing is that NOW is not a moment or a place in time or space
!@@FdR88 Yes, that is a good observation! the realm of being (NOW) exists outside of time and space.
This pointing is just....awesome!!!! ❤ Infinite gratitude, Rupert 🙏
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α) You know you are
β) How do you know it?
γ) And with what did you know it?
This is the sum total of my teaching,needed to put you on the right track,its very quintessence.
Sri Nisargadatta-The ultimate medicine
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Love this!
This is a great summary. The only issue is that some people do need to develop some focus and stability of mind before being able to take a stand and abide as that. If it were that easy, everyone would be self realised. That is why progressive paths place an emphasis on developing certain skills before abiding as that, and why most non dualists are walking around deluding themselves that they’re already enlightened and living their so called truth. Otherwise, yeah, it’s simple and a “fast” route.
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I think it’s simple in the sense that when you realize the being that you are, the understanding of what you should be doing to stay aligned to your most true being and self becomes evident. So the work that you should be doing, mental and physical(meditation, breathing, yoga, walking, whatever) will naturally follow when you’re aligned to your being. The other spiritual practices focus too much on the physical, or the mental, or “ascending” your soul now, instead of truly embodying the being that we truly are behind it all
@myv3sa so how do we align ourselves exactly?
@@panes840 IMHO, we need to realize our essential nature is being ( what I am), and not form (what I do). I guess this is what myv3sa means by "align ourselves." I think if you watch more videos of Rupert, he will guide you to observe your essence. His videos have certainly helped me. Blessings!
Zen is said to be the deconditioning of the mind ( bio, psycho socio aspects)
Beautifully spoken
Great video! Thanks Rupert!
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The non duality teaching itself becomes something to be transcended. As long as there's a label, there's identification.
The best description of John Smithism yet.
Thank you for your beautiful teachings.
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There is much more than this realization.
After realizing you are whole and have no needs, what “more” do you want?
Thank you 🙏❤
Maharaj says understand is everything.
For those whose access or portal is a mental one
Gracias gracias gracias
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Passing scenes on the screen of awareness.
Lightness itself!❤
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Clear 💙
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Muchísimas gracias!!!❤🙏😊
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Beautiful indeed...
i AM THAT!!!!
Rupert often says, “I don’t mean to imply any criticism of these other ‘progressive approaches’, they are perfectly valid.” He’s just being polite and diplomatic, and doesn’t want to alienate people. His whole approach exposes the dualistic seeking trajectory of most conventional spiritual and religious traditions and the methods they use, which keep people stuck, confused and distracted. He’s just too ‘nice’ to be upfront about it.
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Yes 🙏
...Or he doesn't pass the judgements about them that you appear to have and that most of us do. Those paths also have a place. Otherwise they wouldn't be here. Blessings.
Rupert dedicated a significant time of his life in some of the dualistic paths. I think he sees some value in them - for some evolution is needed. In fact it could be said that some of the other paths played a key role in his own spiritual evolution.
True. Check out Paul Hedderman who blatantly calls it out. He's like the Iggy Pop of non duality.
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Great stuff lately
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Ramana Maharshi and Sri Aurobindo are among the high teachers, yet they differ when it comes to what "realization" or "transformation" is, or can be.
I know it’s only words but accuracy can help. ‘Realisation’ seems closer than ‘transformation’. What would be transformed?
@@Janeoffools The consciousness. Living in another consciousness.
Also - and perhaps more esoteric or difficult for most people to deal with or even admit - transformation of the so-called physical.
I used to be deeply involved with Ramana's teaching. Still am. But it is limited. It's great as far as it goes, but there is much more.
If you are seriously interested in other transformations, see the section titled "The Triple Transformation" in Sri Aurobindo's _Letters on Yoga_
You can find those volumes free online, through several different websites.
He warned against the common illusion among vedantins that their version of realization (or "self-realization" or "the Self" or "the true self") is the only, the final, or the ultimate.
Hi @viveviveka2651.... can You say in brief.. what is the diffference... i would be helpful❤
@@viveviveka2651 what can be more ultimate than consciousness? If reality is consciousness how can you state that you can live in another consciousness? That would imply there is more than one consciousness. You are negating advaita
@Bojan_V Absolutely agreed.
Thanks gretitude Dhanyabad Dhanyabad Dhanyabad ❤❤❤😅 thanks
We are livimg the human life through an enormous filter of the so called true reality. Just sit back and enjoi otherwise you might go mad.
In a nutshell, don’t try to fix King Lear
@Bojan_V who wants to fix him?
@@Janeoffools nice question/inquiry :v
@Janeoffools You are right in a sense that discovering to be John Smith is way more important and should be prioritized, but King Lear is still part of the simulation, so nothing wrong in upgrading his skillset if it's supposed to happen. It will just happen a lot more effortlessly and playfully, as it's recognized that it doesn't really matter that much. Life becomes like playing a video game in demo mode in a sense, as we don't really have control anyway (but should still pretend we have it, as otherwise we end up like couch potatoes :-D)
yes😂. just remind King Lear that there is no King Lear but only John Smith
This is blowing 'my mind' as a Course iñ Miracles.' 'student,' for 25 years. 25 is a good number. I am me, for God's sake. And me knows who it is, this moment. OMG have I 'suffered with anxiety', the more 'time' has passed, the more 'Queen Lear' I became. Thank you. And I loved the video on the 'chooser' in heaven. It's already chosen for me. I need do nothing.
What is nature (i.e. trees, grass) and animals?
But you do this too Rupert. Every time you say 'as a concession to the mind' you do EXACTLY what you say these 'other' spiritual paths do - ie you talk directly to the apparent separate self. Which in truth you do quite a lot. So that IS what you 'do here' as much as you deny it in this segment.
Subtitles, please... 🙏🙏
These things come and go. Wake up.
A joke...
How many nondualists does it tak to change a lightbulb?
Not 2!
There is no separate light bulb 😉
But is not any teacher and their specific teaching simply another appearance of some character and their story in King Lear's dream? If not, we would have to consider that Rupert and whoever is the collective “we” in the statement “that’s not what ‘we’ do here” are essentially John Smith incarnate, speaking to us, not?
I’ve only passively watched these videos, so there may be some fundamental assumption I have missed. In this teaching, has the significance of the activity been established for the sake of understanding the screen/activity analogy, or the John Smith/King Lear example? Is the activity meaningless to true nature? Is the screen the only thing that really “is?” I’d like to know that context if someone would please fill me in.
If so, is not following the teaching just part of a story I might dream as King Lear? If not, then I am I not left to discern which activity is meaningful to finding my true nature and which is not? This teaching does seem to require the inquisitor to accept some activity as meaningful and some as simply dream activity. Very open to further explanation of this message/communication.
The teaching is only meant to be a pointer to free you from the illusion. It is something that must be experienced, the teaching can only serve as a pointer to that experience. Once you are no longer fooled by the illusion you may find that the illusion has meaning or purpose, but for a teaching to try to explain what that meaning is would only be a story caught up in the distortions of the illusion.
@@bensanterre9478 Pointing is an action that needs an originator, so that does not explain the discrepancy in this teaching. This, like all philosophies and religions falls apart at some point and requires a leap of faith.
@@joajoajb this (your last comment.) but even that is saying too much
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Who is asking King Lear to direct his attention to John Smith? And why?
Consciousness starts identification and then consciousness ends Identification.
consciousness starts misidentification
its amazong that a baby has no mental limintations. then proceeds to build limitations then eventually has to destroy them again
its intelligence and consciousness developing, changing, adapting, etc... adding removing
@maks, Consciousness is like the movie screen. It has no identity. The Mind creates the Illusionary me and self via thoughts and stories. It is the mind that seeks, IMHO. PEACE
@@cps_Zen_Run It may have no identity, but it is alive, indeed only Consciousness is alive, therefore only Consciousness can do anything freely, the mind is like a machine, very sophisticated but yet lifeless.
@@maksymkrammer even consciousness is bound by destiny. it has no free will
how can an imaginary character "go to his essential self". how would harry potter do that, or do anything, since he doesn't exist as anything more than a story.
That was a figure of speech.
Rupert often uses analogy to explain complex ideas.
Progressive path vs direct path
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All the spiritual traditional paths are non dual… so why the titel how non-duality is different?
How did we come from consciousness is everything to consciousness needs to disidentify?
K. Make up your mind dude 😂😂
At this point all what this mind needs is peace and rest
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I understand what Rupert is saying. Basically there is only one consciousness aka God. Correct? But he doesn't answer why there is (the appearance of) diversity or otherness within this one consciousness. Can anybody explain this to me? Personally I think it is related to Genesis 2:18: it is not good to be alone. But want to hear what other people think. So please let me know.
Were "I" in a finite state visiting my worlds and guiding the sleeping ones out of suffering, then be able to know Compassion?
When "I" transcend out of Maya, will I "again" forget my "Self" and create again a new world?
Yes & No.
You identify yourself as a wave. The illusion is sustained.... when illusion is seen as the illusion... it dissolves... you will know that you are the ocean. Waves will keep appearing and disappearing, it's their nature, timeless awareness is yours... i. e. the tranquility and bliss of being the ocean.
F1rst!!🎉🎉
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