PragerU's TERRIFYING Parenting Advice | A Response to PragerU
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2021
- Conservative TH-cam channel PragerU shares parenting advice that's not just outdated, but also pretty terrifying. In this PragerU response video, I want to take a look at their advice, break it down, and talk about why it's really, REALLY bad.
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--- www.alfiekohn.org/rethinking-...
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I love all the graphic design and animated text ect ... But to be honest it should be spice not the main course .. I subscribed to a smart lady talking sense to a camera ... This isn't that .. it's still good, I'm not unsubscribing or anything but it seems that me like all that graphics takes at least as much work as being on camera .. so just trying to save you some effort.
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What a collab. This is absolute art
Nice video. The parenting styles are pretty cut dry, essentially it is the classification of how the parents treat their child in their upbringing. But the methods and style that this Bozo would be using is beyond authoritative, he is saying to rule in fear like a dictator and that their subjects(children) should be happy and never question them. If there is one thing that official historians and psychologists could agree on it is that this is a recipe for trouble that only completes short term goals, at some point it all crumbles down.
I’ve watched a few of your videos and enjoyed them very much. The one on food was great and I just watched the one on conspiracy theories, which is also really good (if not so easy to put into practice). Yes, I agree that this guy gives extremely bad advice on parenting, IMO. I just wish you hadn’t thrown in the comment about his qualifications. If the state where he works allows him to call himself a psychologist, then (in that state and according to their standards) he *is* a psychologist.
This is an issue which occurs in many professions. For instance, you can train as a medical doctor in one country but your qualifications may not meet the standard in another, so you’ll need further training to work there. You had plenty of dirt on him without bringing up a non issue but still, great video and I, who raised a child to adulthood, doing the exact opposite of what he recommends, 100% agree with your other arguments.
The editing was good except for the inadequate number of cats
I was ready to comment "Maybe obedient children are less likely to say they're unhappy in a study", but there wasn't even a study
I had a similar moment, but my thought was that kids who are happy aren't likely to have a pattern of disobedience.
source: trust me bro
@@legendhun9342source: it was once revealed to me in a dream
@@deterytorializacja8522 god told me
@@muttipi the lord awakened in me and showed me signs
The signs: I ate an orange yesterday and he whispered in my ear to beat my kids and my wife
Citations:
1. *it is known*
2. *it is known*
3. *it is known*
4. *this was once revealed to me in a dream*
😂
Here's my problem: unless you're on the absolute cutting-edge forefront of a particular field, you shouldn't cite yourself - that goes double for this guy since he explicitly states he doesn't do original studies/research. If PragerU had even the slightest amount of academic integrity, that would be a dealbreaker...since it isn't, one can only come to a single conclusion.
@@khill8645
"If PragerU had even the slightest amount of academic integrity . . . "
That's the problem right there. They have absolutely none.
@@khill8645 If PragerU had even the slightest amount of academic integrity, it wouldn't be able to do its job.
@@khill8645 If they had academic integrity, they wouldn’t exist.
I just realized how funny it is that this guy is afraid of a child being able to dismantle his arguments, mainly because they actually could.
He's a "phycologist" dumber than a kid
Also, if it’s a good, valid argument, they can’t pick it apart. So he just also admitted that he doesn’t know how to make a good argument.
Exactly, he probably knows that his argumentative skills are low and his cause is wrong
@@moonbox0929 he’s a conservative, they genuinely think you can argue anything even if you have no point to argue. Like they’ll just say anything, especially pragerU
How many kids do you have?
I work in childcare. I can tell you true, the reason kids aren't being described as "obedient" is because that's no longer the desired trait. You don't want kids doing the right thing because they're told or because they get punished. You want them to do the right thing because its the right thing to do. If they ask "Why do I need to do that?" The answer is not "Because you need to obey me" You tell them WHY said instruction matters, so they learn. The trait that has replaced "obedience" is helpfulness. You want kids who *want* to listen and who respect you.
"My child is a meat drone" is basically what it says.
Bingo. You want your kids to *think* about their assigned tasks - to function as part of an integrated team - rather than focus solely on avoiding punishment.
Besides, "Because I said so." Tends to make some kids think that adults are unreasonable, and gets them to rebel. (First hand case. My sister was like this.)
That's part of it but I think it's bigger than that.
It's also related to the atomization of society. In the past you had strong friend groups for adults, church, unions and so on. There was a lot more society in a child's life that they could just go along with. Today the only two guides a child has are their teacher and their parents.
Also online fraud is rampant, temptations are everywhere and having a good stable job is mostly a thing of the past. So obedience just isn't really a useful trait anymore in today's society.
Obedience is only a useful trait if you are surrounded by people you can trust.
The kicker is that I would not listen to my mother if I didn't think the reason was good, but because she took the time to explain the reason, the few times she forbade me to do something without providing a reason I just implicitly trusted her judgement and didn't do it.
"Obedient slaves are happy slaves!"
"Obedient wives are happy wives!"
Dear lord...
Obedient citizens are happy citizens.
@@ezbody Considering that PragerU is Republican law/government asskissing propaganda it wouldn't surprise me if that's something they would unironically say.
They really are at all times only arms length away from advocating spousal abuse. Dennis "The Good Ol Days" Prager is probably developing that video right now.
Oh GOD no...
This has some real "My dad beat me with a belt every time his toast came out wrong, and I turned out just fine!" energy.
Surprising lack of this in the comments section. Not entirely free, but far more sensible people in the "hitting an adult is assault, but hitting a child is not? That's madness!" camp than I would expect.
Oh God, I have a cousin like that, not the toast part but the getting beaten up pretty badly part and they say "it was necessary" when in fact you mustn't go overboard with punishment. That's abuse.
@@siiroblank2854 punishment as a whole I think is overused. Not saying all punishment is bad, but rewarding behavior and positive reinforcement is much more effective.
@@moosesandmeese969 Eh, not necessarily, I believe it should be according to the children's behavior and personality/mental health.
Pretty much case by case to avoid encouraging and justifying horrible behavior in certain children or not to shove ADHD children more and more into vicious circle of being punished for behavior they cannot control and searching for attention because they are ostracized for being themselves, until they become isolated and bitter or spoiled douchebag.
@@moosesandmeese969 I agree, however I believe it is also important to teach children that bad behavior results in consequences (spanking okay not down right abuse) otherwise they'll understand too late what happens when you start acting up
Weird how conservatives won’t let people identify their preferred gender identity but have no problem with John Roseman “identifying as a psychologist” and prageru “identifying as a university” news flash, prageru isn’t even a real university nor John Roseman a psychologist.
It’s almost like they don’t give a shit about being hypocritical or having any consistency at all.
@@kalbarnes2494 it’s all about power
Because the entire gender identity trend was made by a pedophilic Jew that should have been taken to the back and shot in the fucking skull the very second his "findings" were publicly released
It's called hypocrisy. And the worst thing about hypocrisy is that anything can be excused.
ok that was a good one
If the kid can successfully argue that the reason for a rule is flawed, there’s a problem with the rule.
And if they are unsuccessful, then the parent should be able to explain the issue with the kid's stance.
99% of rules are flawed in the real world. It doesn't take a tremendous level of intelligence to find said flaws and argue against them. The question is, should a 35 year old take crap from an 8 year old, and the answer is no.
@@111olbapMaybe the 35 years old should wise up and explain stuff instead of just ordering kids around.
There are bratty kids, but if didn't bother to explain Why ypu ask Something of them, thats a problem that started with you, not them.
Alternatively, Don't have kids, so you dont have any problems with them.
Simple
@@111olbapYeah but again. If an 8 year old can pick it apart so much that a 35 yr old is unable to justify it...
He got it backwards. It's not "obedient children are happy children" its "happy children who have all their needs met are more likely to be obedient," Everyone, please take care of your children.
so if my child wants to have all the candy in the world i should give it to them because i want to appease my child???
@@youkaliciousx299 its okay to say no to your child but its not okay to be abusive to them. a child can handle a no but a child cannot handle unreasonable punishment and extreme control
@@youkaliciousx299 tell them no and explain why. Children are people also, treat them as such.
@@youkaliciousx299 wants are not needs as long as you talk reasonably with your child as to why they don’t need that much candy an understanding will be formed children are not idiots.
@@youkaliciousx299 That's very obviously not what I was saying, a strawman argument if I ever heard one. But to answer your question: no you shouldn't, you can still have children that are happy even if you set reasonable limits.
“Don’t treat the child like a human, that would teach them that they’re a human”
i know, how stupid right? (joke)
“Don’t let them have free will. That is bad. And makes you a bad parent.”
dont feed your child, this will condition them to think everything is free
Holy fucking shit!! How sinful!!!!
“Don’t take care of your child, this will make them take you for granted.”
I grew up with this parenting style, i am also autistic.
As a child i was just angry and frustrated all the time because nobody would ever explain things to me, and i got punishment after punishment with no explanation of what they wanted or expected from me. It was almost all abusive punishment. Screaming at me, isolating me from my friends, taking away the things i needed to cope, shaming me, threatening me.
As a teen i just grew numb, and as a young adult the anger and rage came back, and i started throwing the abuse back at them.
I'm 24 now, been no contact with my family for 2 years. Thanks to the abuse i endured in my childhood, i am legally severely disabled due to my mental health issues. I can't work, i depend on disability services for almost everything except for grocery shopping and basic life preservation tasks. I've been in recovery for 1 year at this point with only very slight improvements.
This parenting philosophy has not only taken my childhood from me, but also it's taking a sizeable chunk of my adulthood as well. to see this stuff being advocated for makes my blood boil. There is no way to understate just how evil this is.
"as a young adult the anger and rage came back, and i started throwing the abuse back at them"
you should throw more abuse at them pal
Okay, but seriously, this is fucked up. I hope you are better now
@@LamPhongTriPham
Not sure how to interpret this, but either way, now that i am in the position to just cut abusive people out instead of being locked in with them, i don‘t do that anymore. And mind you i was pretty much trapped. They basically took all the money i earned, i never was able to save up enough for a security deposit and move out. I didnt have any access to government assistance either. If you lock a dog in a cage and kick it everyday, you shouldnt be surprised when the dog eventually bites back.
Taking the moral high ground sounds easy if you‘re not in an environment where your brain is soaked in fear and misery 24/7, for years and years. That stuff messes you up.
Either way, i regret nothing. I don‘t care about the wellbeing of my abusers, and i don‘t regret lashing out at them in my darkest moments
@@frostnovaomega1152I’m so sorry you had to go through all that, just know that I’m here if you need someone to talk to.. my parents have tried their best but they had their tough days which they unfortunately took out on me..
I’m proud of you that you’re recovering ❤❤
We’ll get there eventually ❤
Buddy im so sorry you went through that. Im so sorry your still dealing with the consequences of that abuse. I wish i knew you. I would give you a giant hug(if you like that sort of contact). And if i feel this way and i dont know you, there are ppl out there who will love and care for you just the way you are. I hope you find them. You deserve to be treated with kindness, respect and love. I wish you all the best.
Reading your comment struck such a chord with me that I started shaking... I'm autistic and almost 22 and grew up under extremely similar circumstances, along with a sizeable chunk of external abuse added to the mix, and I've just recently (in the last year or so) been able to recover from the palpable rage I discovered inside me at 18. I'm an ambulatory wheelchair user as well, but find myself still steeped in the abuse I grew up in because I have not yet been approved for welfare. I live alone with my parents, unable to drive, unable to work or make money, and unable to move as freely as other people, and it's the most soul crushing thing to live with people who are clear they don't want you alive. I have hope that I will graduate to your level of safety in the coming years though, that I will be free, and I will be able to be a parent to children who will truly know what it means to be loved.
They don't want children; they want glorified pets. They don't care about the child getting trauma or depression so long as the child doesn't show any symptoms.
"Obedient children are happy children" is nothing more than them trying to coincide the belief that they are good people with what they are doing when deep down they know that they are the bad guys.
So it would be more accurate as "Obedient children make happy parents" ?
@@dudono1744more like obedient children make parents look superior to their "friends" which makes them happy
@@jksekai well yes, that's probably the main reason
No, I don't think that's the case. Many of their arguments about how to deal with the poor are almost identical to how they say to deal with children.
What they want is to enforce hierarchy. In their eyes it's important to install a sense of hierarchy between parent and child cause when that child grows up they will have the same obedience towards their boss.
Yep I had parents exactly like this, they only cared about themselves and how I affected their social status amongst their friends lmfaooo
John Rosemond really said
"Directed by: me
Produced by: me
Written by: me
And staring: me"
“Source(s): me”
Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙
Why is this kinda iconic tho
It would be funnier if he wasn't doing it unironically.
When you get assined a group proyect and no one exept you does the work:
"obedient children are happy children"
"there is no war in ba sing se"
"nothing happened in 1984"
‘I love big brother’
@@bigpapamagoo8696 wait hold up
@@The_Blue_Ender you probably mean ‘89 right
@@duckonaroll1913 look up the book 1984.
I might actually put the phrase “obedient children are happy children” into my dystopian novel I’ve been working on
That's exactly what I was thinking, that line sounded straight out of 1984
I need a copy of it
Do it, I love it.
Even better of it's a constant phrase in the background kinda gives brainwashing vibes
I mean knock yourself out and hope your novel sells well, but Rosemond is definitely right here. Everyone in the comments section here seems to be conflating "children" with "adults" and "governments" with "families". Anyone who has ever raised a two year-old knows that a family pretty much has to be a totalitarian mini-government, with the mom and dad as the dictators. It definitely can't be a democracy every time the two year-old wants candy, screams at the toy store for not getting his way, or begs for 3 more hours of screen time. The very key to the opposite of a dystopian society is a free one in which the citizens possess the ability to self-govern, and the science is pretty clear that the ability to self-govern is heavily tied to whether the citizens are raised in two-parent households where rules and discipline are the norm.
It's time we start considering our children actually sane, reasonable human beings and not slaves who can't do anything without a parent's grace.
children need to be protected because it's important they stay safe, they are the future after all, but they're also humans
I respectfully disagree with one thing. I dont think children are very reasonable. They dont have the perspective necessary. Imo, thats why you encourage them to ask questions, and give them explanations. Teach them how to consider things outside of their personal view and how to think through problems. This way, they get more 'reasonable' as time goes on.
@@Bexx74Quite a good number of adults aren't very reasonable.
@@brendontruong7127True, which is why Bexx’s point still stands. No one is guaranteed to be reasonable, including myself. It’s a practice whose importance and values must be acknowledged by people for them to pursue it, and it’s pretty important that a person is shown its importance during the years in which they are taking mandatory education, so that once they do become an adult, they are at least more likely to be responsible.
@Bexx74 kids aren't reasonable but they think they are, it's best to humor them at least a little (source, 18 years of experience as a kid, 16 of those with a brother who was not humored)
He called a child “It” because…
A) He doesn’t view children as people
B) He didn’t want to admit “They” was a singular pronoun
C) All of the above
Definitely C.
D
A
D. All of above plus because they got scared of having weekly childe fight /j
C
'At 70 your child will remember being locked in a room for a month.' Yes, she will certainly remember that when selecting the nursing home to lock you into
yass
Yes
"It's a retirement community!"
@@kas7423 haha, nice Sopranos reference
Revenge shall come
This guys method just boils down to "children dont deserve rights"
@Waltbruh 2+2=5
@@shonklebonkle324 3+3= 3
The entire world doesn't treat people under 18 like humans, this guy just puts the degeneracy into words
When my brother was young, like toddler ages, my mom took him for his doctor visit, and yes he is autistic (Asperger's, but they no long classify it), and my mom asked how to help him through breakdowns, the doctor literally said "lock him in his room until he stops". Needless to say my mom cussed him out, left, got a new doctor, and did not do that to him of course. This was in the early 2000s. I'm glad we treat people who are on the spectrum and who are neurodivergent like actual people now. It's wonderful
My parents still do that shit to my sister, they also physically restrain her while she's having her meltdowns
@@N_IRLhave you tried second or first degree manslaughter? on the parents, to be clear. include pain
Thank GOODNESS your mom cussed him out
@@N_IRLmurder is always an option when the parent aint parentin
The place where you live must have made some good advancements towards people who are not perfect, obedient angels.
Obedient children aren’t happy children, happily children just tend to obey their parents more out of RESPECT, not fear
I can confirm
So basically he's got it backwards
Happy children are obedient children
Usually unless you are some idiot, there is nothing why you shroud respect your parents as they are not better than you are.
they are just another pair of unfortunate people trying to survive in this horrible world.
I dont understand parents who dont look at themselves and say: "What have I done to make my own child fear me, not love me?"
@@pabloca3 exactly. if a kid messes something up they should be thinking "i need to talk to my dad," not "my dad's gonna kill me."
"your child will remember being in their room for a month, and that they never hit you again."
Incorrect, that is how you raise someone to be a serial killer.
It is quite rare for serial killer to kill (or hit) their parents though, so he wouldn't be technically incorrect. Just left out the less convenient part.
@@LudmilaT. but still, that kid gonna hate his parent for living.
@@ianhamilton9600 yeah but locking them in their own room for a month is in my opinion extreme. Anything else seems like a a better alternative, like them being grounded from going and playing with their friends and having to properly apologize for their behavior.
I can confirm. my parents did that to me and look where I am.
not a serial killer, just a 19 year old with no idea how to live, with constant thoughts of ending it all and letting them win. however, out of spite, I won't let them win. and since I was adopted, when they leave me out of the will, ill sue their lawyers and take everything. lol.
@@derpadap7011 yeah i once stayed in my room for about 3 or so days because i was feeling a bit depressed, but i only felt worse after doing that. i can only imagine how a month would feel, especially for a 5 year old like the guy in the vid says
i was such a “but why” little shit as a kid. but my dad never got pissed at me for asking, he would explain to the best of my ability. his explanations broadened my world so much and gave me room to explore, question, and think for myself. i was also a super autistic kid but was and still am undiagnosed cause i was born afab. this whole “parenting” style is abusive to any kid let alone neurodivergent ones. though any parent with an nd kid seriously taking this advice probably thinks autism speaks is a reputable advocacy group
As someone with parents that use similar techniques, I can confirm they also support autism speaks.
These idiots have never mentally grown out of the 70's,where acting like a playground bully was the way to get things.
"Born afab"
Well AFAIK the only thing that "Adsigned" gender to you is basic biology,because that's how gender works.The outlier being if a mutation causes your brain to develop a different gender from your body,AKA gender dysphoria/trans.The whole "gender is socially constructed & doesn't actually exist" is filled with JUST AS MUCH _pseudoscience_ & _ dude just trust me_ bullcrap as that old fart's parenting advice.
afab, like 1612, “all fascists are bastards”, or am i thinking of the wrong acronym smh 💀💀💀
@@Lucasjj2010it means ‘assigned female at birth’
-Don't love your children
-Don't explain how the world works
-Don't see them as people with independent ideas but as an extension of your own
-assert dominance
Ahh yes this will totally turn into an adult who is capable and will not lead to them running away from their parents.
Or an adult that is a total people pleaser that can’t trust themselves and their feelings.
- Don’t always *display* unconditional love
- Don’t always *explain* why one must respect proper authority
- Don’t treat children like adults (because they aren’t)
If you actually listen to what the man says, the person this child grows up to be sounds like a functioning member of society.
@@ac4sual0bserver Nobody should respect authority, also I hope you never have children.
@@ac4sual0bserver you know, bait used to be believable...
Only people at pregurU would be worried about looking alpha in front of a 7 year old child
Especially since the term "alpha" in regards to the wolves used to come up with the term, literally would mean "scared, confused individual who doesn't belong there at all, who is left alone because it's the biggest and scariest." Because, fun fact, that term comes from throwing a bunch of wolves from their original family packs, into a single enclosure and seeing what happens. It's literally just short of having dogs fight, and assuming the one that wins is the leader afterwards.
@@theendersmirk5851 that social hierarchy thing among wolves was proven wrong iirc
@@Psychosomatic63 Yeah, my post was explaining the specific error of that theory. Didn't know when it got disproven, but I was well aware it had been.
@@theendersmirk5851 disproven by the original researcher at that.
The true heart of the matter.
The fact that he calls children “It” says all that he needs to say.
He is a bad guy, but if you referring to an unspecified child you would call it "it" or "they". Which is kinda what he does. Otherwise, he is a very bad parenting advisor.
If he doesn't know the gender than I don't see a problem with that.
@@carl8760 You would use "they", not "it"
@@neyoid No, you can use either lmao.
@@edwardsheeran9220 Sure, you can. But you could also NOT be that much of a creep. Bar on the ground here, we're just asking the guy to drop the shovel and stop digging
This stuff sounds *EXACTLY* how I was raised.
No, I was not happy. *I was terrified, and feared for my life every day for years.* I still have PTSD today 45+ years later.
Well, I hope you get better soon.😊
As someone who was raised with spanking, face slapping, and screaming at my face how did I turn out? I turned out very violent to the ages of 7-10 if I was mad I would scream at others, hit them, and destroy things. And after awhile I became sever severely depressed to the point that at 10-12 I would sneek out of bed at night, grab a knife, and start cutt1ing my arms sawing at my skin until I bleed and punched my arms to the point they were very badly bruised. At ages 12-13 I had come to the point that I realized everyone would call me a weirdo since I was stoned face so I decided to become an actor 24/7 and smile and pretend to be happy so I would be seen as normal. And at age 14 was when I committed an overdosing suicide attempt by swallowing about 74 pain killer pills and was hospitalized. Afterwards I attempted again at 15 this time swallowing 2 pill bottles of expired medicine that could add to more than 100 pills. I was never successful with both attempts and luckily my liver somehow is still ok but I would greatly not recommend raising your child the way I was. If I have a kid I will never put them in a situation where they're in a corner crying in fear of being hit.
I'm sorry you went through that, and hope you are in a much better place now
@nihouma11 yes I'm in a better place now mentally than before I'm glad I'm out of my own mental health crisis and hope to have a bright future ahead
Holy shit man, ur story made me grab my right arm in fear
Keep being the best!
conservatives deny this, which is horrifying
I grew up with the same punishments. You wouldn’t happen to be Israeli would you?
Prager U's Sources
1. It is known
2. I made it up
3. It was once revealed to me in a dream
4. Just trust me bro
@@TheSorrel 6. God said it man, just trust me
7. it is common sense...... well I like to say it is common sense but what I actually mean by that is its an old dated view from the past that any sane person from current day doesn't see as common sense
8. Donald trump told me that I know it or be true so I know it to be true
9. My great-great confederate grandma
@Literally Musab 11-The fox news bathroom doesnt count as a study lab
I love the way he calls children an “it” when describing how you shouldn’t go down to a kid’s level. His complete lack of empathy is on display.
I had to listen to that three times to make sure I didn’t mishear. “It.” What the actual fuck?!
Dehumanization at its finest. "Children and women aren't people! Only adult men that agree with me are people! And even then they're on thin ice for not being me!"
Either that or they're trying to stick it to the left so hard by refusing to use singular "they" as a pronoun. Or both!
Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙 🤙
well some kids do identify as an it, right? its a valid gender expression? not being facetuous here
@@Inannawhimsey As someone whose pronouns are it/its unironically irl (I like the idea of someone being unable to figure out what I am; "Lyra" isn't my real name lmfao), there's a world of difference between someone respecting your pronouns and someone literally dehumanizing you. This is an obvious case of the latter imho
Probably wont be seen, but I was spanked as a child by my dad, for small things like lying. My mom was a source of unconditional love though. Eventually I learned to hide stuff and behave when my dad was home. I turned out fine, I thought. I went to college, then med school. When I was younger, I thought I'd spank my kids as well, since my dad was a fearsome person and I listened to him.
Well, now I have a three year old. I can't imagine a world where I lay a hand on him. I explain everything. He's so curious and happy. He helps out at bedtime, brushes his teeth, cleans up messes. He of course still misbehaves or gets frustrated, but I try to set an example and remain calm and patient with him, knowing he's still trying to figure it out. I love that kiddo, even if he sometimes makes me want to rip my hair out. Lol.
Anyway, in my early adult years pre-parenthood, I didn't realize the effect that those traumas had on my development. Therapy helped me develop strategies to overcome it. I dont dwell on it much anymore, but the key point I'm trying to make is any time I even entertain the idea of spanking, I remember the fear and confusion I had afterwards when I was spanked. The punishment for sure stuck with me, but the reason for it did not.
Not to mention spanking teaches you that it's not just ok, but a good thing to physically hurt the ones you love and are supposed to protect as long as they deserve it.
The CDC also proved that spanking leads to subsequent mental health problems for children.
I got spanked as a kid. I am a severely damaged individual and this is part of the many reasons.
damn.@@PossumBitch
@@playernotfound9489dude if the police cannot hit kids so can't you
“You can always pick apart an explanation,” or maybe conservatives just suck at arguing.
It’s the conservative classic, never explain yourself because nothing you say or do has any logic in it to begin with
If there is a logical argument against their feelings that they claim to be scientific, there is just "the left brainwashing" or "betas" or "government coverups". These are all seperate groups using unproven and unprovable arguments, Prager U wants us to believe we are brainwashed, "alpha males" want us to believe that we are just "beta" cucks using fake science and conspiracy groups don't actually care about the science, anyone can be a spy for "the system" and proof against them is always fake.
@@goober3889Thats not just a conservative trait lol. Thats just a trait of idiots.
You kinda just proved his point.
How?@@ac4sual0bserver
“I’d like to know if my 40 year old daughter remembers that time I confined her to her room for a month. Can’t say for sure, as she hasn’t spoken to me in over 20 years.”
"...She will also remember that she never hit her mom again."
She also never saw her mom again, but that's not the important part.
The Prageru video said nothing about locking, or confining, children to their rooms. Zoe Bee just made that up for a thumbnail and to make you angry and clicking.
@@MrHoggReads ok for the sake of discussion, lets say they did. That doesnt excuse his lack of credibility and his history of bad ideas about parenting.
@@brynail4794 I'm not asking you to accept the Prageru video as true or good, I'm saying that Zoe Bee is being dishonest.
@@MrHoggReads it wasnt mentioned in the video she mentioned, but the person Bee is examining did give that advice. As clickbaity as it is, its not necessarily lying. Timestamp: 11:48
"Obedient children are happy children" is about two words away from being the motto of a dystopian government
Obedient citizens are happy citizens! Wait why are you rising up no-
They're basically the micro version of Soviet Communism. Which is hilariously ironic.
I don’t see how it’s fundamentally wrong to want your children to follow the rules you set and not disobey? From the parents perspective their rules are right. I would figure you would want your children to follow your rules.
@@oj59 how is that relevant to "obedient children are happy children" ? Besides that, "commanding" them teaches them to obey authority blindly and not think for themselves. Great for governments and predators, not for individuals.
“Obedient people are happy people”
-1984 or something
My mother raised me as the exact opposite of this advice. She ALWAYS gave me a why. When I would argue, she'd reason with me until I either gave up or accepted it. Sure, maybe in the early stages of life I was a rowdy toddler because I don't want to do what she's making me do, but as life went on, it got easier and easier to see that 95% of the time, she was right. The thing is, asking "Why" also occasionally led her to realize she made a mistake. That was also an important lesson; Mom can be wrong. She isn't always wrong, but she CAN be. As I grew up, I applied the same line of thinking to other authority figures. I will do what you ask if you can give me a satisfactory "why". That obviously led to perceived authority issues, though I never have had a true "rebellious phase". My mother isn't perfect, but I'm pretty lucky that I was raised by who I was raised by. I always want a "why", which deeply influenced my political standings, those I was friends with, and my general outlook on life. So parents, always tell people why.
w mom
w opinion
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lucky. my dad HATES it when i ask why when he wants me to do something that’s small and insignificant
example: one time i had my shoes downstairs because i wanted them to be cleaner and taking shoes off infront or near the door is respectful. i tried doing that for about two weeks but then I got told to take them upstairs and said why.
“just go put them upstairs!”
“but why? i like them down here”
“😠😡…they dont belong down here”
yes, when i argue back he starts doing this dumbass staring thing like i just said “im pregnant”
“you never had a problem with them before”
“😠😠😠😡😡😡😡….i have a problem with them now!”
and ofc since he’s the dad i eventually had to do it
then the next day he came to me and said
“😠😡😡😡😡next time i tell you to do something you DO IT! im not arguing with you” which basically translates to “dont question me. do as i say no matter fucking what”
yeah i dont like my dad
also to keep this short, for context, i recently started getting the courage to argue back with him whenever he did or said something that bothered me. obviously this was seen as a “challenge to his authority” otherwise he wouldnt resort to yelling and then telling me not to yell (which i literally never did/do when talking to him)
if you want me to explain how THAT happened i will in another comment. this is long enough. can you tell im starting to not like my dad?
Basically the PragerU video is saying, “Beat your kids until they don’t express their sadness so you can believe you’re doing good as a parent and never explain yourself so your kids don’t question you or have their own thoughts! Yay!”
"Obedient children are happy children" is a twisted take on something that is almost certainly true: "children will feel happy and safe when they can look to their parents as confident trusted leaders". Any parent who is not by nature a confident leader but who tries to implement PraferU's advice will come across as insecure and abusive.
Even beyond the unsubstantiated correlation, there's a question of causality here: does obedience actually make children happy, or are happy children just more likely to cooperate with the needs and desires of their family?
It's like that old saying, "correlation is not equal to causation"
A rooster crows because the sun rises. The sun does not rise because the rooster crows.
somewhat more realistic is "a happy child is more likely to be obedient"
But children develop executive function very slowly and it is cruel to make them responsible for understanding all the reasons behind rules that are made for their wellbeing. A responsible caregiver should have the authority to offer the child simple choices with clear consequences while they develop those executive functioning skills.
"There's a lot of really bad parenting advice."
Oh god, he's so nearly self-aware.
self aware wolf
Actually, it's amazing how many times a day can conservative people approach the point without actually getting it. It's pretty much their lifestyle, and it's not hard to understand why: They don't care about anything except what they already want to do; "science", "reasoning", "moral decency" and "human rights" are just useful labels to support that preconceived end while they preach the opposite of what those labels refer to at the same time.
the irony
That's him implicitly giving the viewer the opportunity to discount and ignore anything that they choose to disagree with. It's propaganda, it has nothing to do with awareness.
@@materialknight I don't think it's really fair to say that all conservative people are like this, as I've seen this on both sides.
this man is not offering advice. he is offering justifications so that the parents abusing their kids (and husbands abusing their spouses) can assuage their guilt about it
guilt? Really? I'm unconvinced parents like mine ever felt bad for what they did, they just wanted to know the child was the problem, not them
Nailed it
My father was a firm adherent to the “because I said so” dynamic. It has shaped me in negative ways I can’t begin to overcome. Oh, yeah, I’m 67.
“A punishment must establish a permanent memory”
Trauma, you basically want your child to have trauma.
An effective teacher…unfortunately, one with horrible baggage 🥺
If you don't give your kids PTSD you're basically abusing them, I'm calling CP RIGHT NOW!
Attention sarcasm! This view is a backasswards fresh steaming hot pile of bs
Yeah, all that because five year old Lia spilled some water on her shirt
No no no. They don't want their children to have to trauma. They want to GIVE THEIR CHILD TRAUMA.
The more painful the lesson, the longer you remember it. Parenting is a difficult and challenging task of preparing them for long term success in adulthood. That means remembering otherwise harmless mistakes that would be devastating to relearn in adulthood.
Ahh... the rules I was raised.. messed me up. Obedient children aren't happy, they're scared children.
More likely for the children to leave the parents at 18 and to remove contact with them
I'm really glad my dad realized that before he was done raising me.
@@AzoSBear if you're an Indian you really can't cut them off completely.
@@henryfleischer404 good for you.
@@henryfleischer404 I'm still struggling with that to some extent
Another reason why corporal punishment is a terrible idea: when you get into the mindset of beating your children, what's stopping you from beating anyone else who disobeys you, say, your spouse?
I never thought of it that way, it won't only make the kids feel helpless, it'll make the parents helpless to their own learnt behaviour, even long after their kids leave (which they'll probably try to do as quick as possible)
Honestly, how do you even back up the idea that beating your spouse is wrong if you think it's alright to beat your kids? Because your spouse may be smaller and weaker than you? Because you'll traumatize them? Because it's a betrayal of someone you're supposed to love and protect? Because it's wrong to use physical violence outside of self-defense?
What part of this would be less true for small dependent developing children than for a fully grown adult? And how do you justify the one if you know the other is wrong?
Children do not have fully developed capacities of reason, and thus, in place of certain rational discussions, sensory pain can perfectly reasonably be employed (just as sensory pleasure can.)
Adults do have fully developed capacities of reason, and thus, in place of certain sensory actions, rational discussion can be employed.
In short, things are distinct from one another. Adults are not children, neither are children adults.
@@ac4sual0bserver
So what if an adult doesn't have full capacities of reason? If your partner is having a manic episode or your parents get Alzheimer's does it become reasonable for you to start beating them to make them comply? Will this cause them to trust you? Will this cause them to trust the world in general, to be able to feel any sense of safety and happiness?
"obediant children are happy children" seems like something straight out of 1984
This is the same type of stuff Hitler and Stalin encouraged, and with all the book bans recently, I am getting worried about what the next dictatorship will be (not because I am in the US, just because the US is powerful and the UK's tories love them)
"Obedient Children are Happy Children"
Sounds like something an evil dictator would say in a dystopian movie.
Obedient citizens are happy citizens
Dude sounds exactly like a totalitarian big brother from every stereotype media. So he's basically saying obedience equate to "happiness".
"Freedom is slavery"
Funny thing is that conservatives use George Orwell as their great truth about left.
They probably don't know that Orwell was a socialist Anti-Stalinist.
Ministry of truth in 1984 is basically Orwell describing his time in BBC.
@@danubeisreallypeculiarrive7944 OrWELl WAs rIghT WInG
-conservatives
“Obedient children are happy children”
That sounds crazy dystopian
"If your child is too afraid to tell you they're unhappy, you can pretend they are happy and that you're a good parent! Gaslight yourself! Yay!"
Honestly, describes a “parent” in this very comment section (of the video) beat for beat. They think locking your child up in the equivalent of prison is actually good for the child
And there are quite a lot more where THEY came from
reminds me of the "good soldiers follow orders" line from star wars
gave me chills
He literally said "don't explain anything because your explanations can be torn apart"
If that isn't a conservative self-own idk what is
It's a minor detail, but he literally refers to children as "it" instead of "them" or even "he/she"... You know, like he thinks they're objects
Probably that, or he is so afraid of the "demonic and dangerous" pronouns that he started to stop using singular "they"
@@purp4168 holy shit....holy fucking shit
@@purp4168,
Realizing that ze uses singular "they" and making a conscious effort to stop already catapults hir to the top percentage of transphobe mental faculties
John called a child “it”, that kinda shows his view point already…
@Polite Comments On Current Affairs sure...
@Polite Comments On Current Affairs No old person has ever called me "it", he is the ONLY old person I've heard call a person "it", and they would NOT get away with calling me "it".
@Polite Comments On Current Affairs I have never, in my life, heard anyone call a person an it, I hear he, she, or they, not it
@UCfasIPV4pUqbUmRK9lQDxQg There's an entire book called "A Child Called It" that really really would like to present to you how full of shit you are.
@@tayk.t.523 bold of you to assume this man is merely old. I’d wager carbon dating his bones places him in the timeframe of being a feudal lord (it would certainly explain his stance on obedience).
“Obedient children are happy children”
*I’M SORRY DOES THAT NOT JUST SOUND LIKE A DYSTOPIAN NOVEL MOTTO*
"Obedient citizens are happy citizens"
That statement alone made me forget I wasn't watching something from the Autodale series for like 2 seconds.
@Shiny lol I get the reference
@@shiny2421 it's uncanny how easy it is for me to imagine Autodale announcer saying "And remember kids: obedient children are pretty children".
@@Kickiusz" and stay PRETTY!":)
Actually, this PragerU video is pretty helpful. If you do the opposite of what it tells you to do, it's good parenting advice.
"you can always pick apart an explanation" if you're the type of person to be losing in an argument with a literal child then maybe you shouldn't be a parent in the first place
My father be like:
his video should’ve been titled “how to make your children hate you in 18 years or less”
Kids should resent their parents a little.
@@MikeSW no. Why do you think that? No child should resent their parents, it may happen just because of how children may not like their children’s decisions, but even that isn’t resentment
@@iamacatperson7226 Because they ought to have some sense of independence
@@MikeSW resenting your parents and having independence have absolutely NOTHING to do with each other
@@iamacatperson7226 They absolutely do. It's an unavoidable consequence toward a kid forging their own path.
“Obedient children are happy children”
Ever consider the fact that a ‘obedient’ child is more than likely not allowed to say that they aren’t happy?
Of course, PragerU wants obedient children, who don't question the establishment or motive. After all, PragerU is funded by -a shifty oil conglomerate- well-meaning businessmen from the oil industry. They want obedient little work-drones and not free-thinking people, who could potentially threaten the status quo.
Typically obedient children just follow the rules but his definition of obedient children Is scary
Or dont even know what it is to be happy. They are just numb. Hi, source me, as having an emotionally neglected upbringing and being that 'well mannered obedient' child. Sometimes it was also due to fear, which is not the way to raise children
@@PoptartParasol I'm really sorry to hear. As somebody who had abusive parents (luckily I moved out at 18 and haven't spoken to them since) I hope things are better.
@@Sarawarawara- And when they see, other people dont follow the rules, things will get nasty.
I was raised by a parent that essentially essentially did things the way this guy "advises". Which obviously did not work too well and I was essentially a complete nightmare as a teen. When I became a parent myself and had no idea how to raise a kid, I thought about what my folks did, and then I did the opposite. Now I have two amazing kids, with one of them being a teenager who is better than I was in every way possible.
Don't beat yourself up over not being "as good" as your kid. You just didn't grow up in a good environment, so it's understandable that you'd reflect that in some way. It's good though that you recognized this and did your best to provide a better environment for them.
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"Obidient children are happy children"
I have been an obidient child. It was a trauma response. I was obidient because i was scared shitless of my father, and i'm not sure if being scared of someone who's supposed to protect you is good
I have ASPD because of all the John Rosemond advise my mom followed, so basically a secondary psychopath's personality. He's the one advising parents to torture their children, but I am the psychopath?
"Obedient children are happy children" um that's a funny way of saying "my kids are afraid of me and thus don't tell me when they're having trouble"
I'm also rather fond of "You've probably read somewhere that you should get down to a child's level when you talk to IT"
What a revealing sentiment.
actually deranged
why would they not tell you
...Why do you think I never ask for help in school...?
...At home, it got me yelled at.
My parents weren't shy of physical punishment, and I never was afraid of them. I respected them. I still do to this day, and think back to how much of a little shit I really was. I still have no issue asking them for help then I did back then. How fucked up is little idiots psyches that they can't move on?
At least he is consistent. His point is basically: the only justification your kid deserves is “because I said so”.
And his evidence is “because I said so.”
This needs to be pinned!
@@Anonymous-df8it YES
@@idontknoq4813 Exactly!
@@Anonymous-df8it I wouldn't disagree if they did.
My parents be like:
To call them a conservative nonprofit is a bit too generous. They may be nonprofit in terms of bookkeeping, but their whole purpose is to act as a dummy organization meant to promote the ideologies that make the companies and political affiliates that directly line their pockets more palettable.
This is all in service to capitalism. Teach your kids to blindly listen to authority, so they won’t push back against political figures they won’t push back against their employers, and they won’t push back against the clergy.
Thank You!
This has nothing to do with capitalism.
@@chee.rah.monurB it does in a subconcious level
Unfortunately, you are correct.
Womp Womp 💀
"An 18 month old who got abused doesn't need therapy because they won't remember it"
That opens up some *very* troubling doors there
18 month olds WILL have extreme changes to their mental biology that will affect them their entire life if left unchecked.
EXACTLY! I don't think these meat bags can even begin to comprehend simple things about how our human body works. IF an 18 month old is abused in any way, shape or form, it's very likely their brain will block their already weak memory to protect them, BUT their body will at some point have to deal with the fact that the abuse happened, which is how (sometimes unhealthy) coping mechanisms start. Even if the coping mechanisms don't hurt the child physically, at that point it is very important for them to see a therapist/specialist
That is the most F’ed up thing I have ever heard! This whole video shocking.
Mega trauma dump warning, but I have an anecdote relevant to this. The claim reminds me of something my father said once.
My mother has been with three different men during my lifetime: my father, "John," and "Steve" (not their real names).
John entered the picture when I was three, almost immediately after my parents divorced. My mother was already secretly dating him prior to this, but once my parents were no longer together, he started living with us full time, and this remained the case until I was seven. John was a word that I shouldn't say in a comment section.
Less than a month after my mom broke up with John, she met Steve and started dating him instead, and he moved in immediately as well. My mother really should have learned not to trust strangers to live with her kids, but I digress. Steve wasn't abusive in the same way that John was, but he's a bigoted asshole who verbally abused me throughout my childhood, and he was (on rare occasion) physically violent. Nothing that left physical marks, but I always felt unsafe at home anyway.
My father expressed a few years ago that he doesn't think John was as bad as Steve, because "you were too young to know he was hurting you anyway."
I have an undiagnosed dissociative disorder, which I largely attribute to my years living with John. I couldn't get behind my father's logic. Both of them traumatized me in significant ways, and you don't have to understand abuse in order to be hurt by it. Anyone can have lasting trauma from abuse, regardless of whether it happened when they were 18 months old, 3 years old, or any other age.
Yeah isn’t that early period where most phobias and irrational fears/worries are formed?
"Obedient slaves, are happy slaves"
-This guy probably
An interesting statement considering what PragerU thinks of big government.
@@nizam5568 yeah that's what they say, but in the same breath "back the blue" "we need more military" "extra funds to the police"
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@@calebexmortis620 Ave True To Cae- Damn it!
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Good soldier follow orders!
No running by the pool.
Why?
Because I said so.
Oh you arent not looking . . . I can do whatever I want.
Vs
Why?
Because it is slippery, and you are likely to fall hit your head, get a concussion and bleed.
Do you still want to run?
No . . . I am good, walking sounds good.
my dad once said to me "this isn't a democracy, you have no say. I am the king and you are a peasant. if i tell you to kneel, you will do so." guess who's getting contact cut off in 2 days when I move? i hope my brother has enough money for the nursing home!
"John does not test, diagnose, or recommend medication"
BECAUSE HE LEGALLY CAN'T!
OMG I thought he was just anti- medication for ADHD and related issues.
She said that exactly as I read this comment
He probably wouldn’t recommend that stuff anyways
good
Most Psychologists can't either. Diagnosing medication is generally only allowed for psychiatrists, which is a small subset of the larger field of psychology
40 Years Later
Parent: Why are you putting me in this retirement home? Why can’t I see my grandkids?
Child, now an adult: Because I said so.
Underrated comment. 🤣
I could see this being a real conversation
I'm not gonna tell you. I shouldn't explain myself!
“Well, ma, you shouldn’t’ve spanked me.”
@@yourbizarrekai No this is a sad bitter person who has done no work in healing or growing themselves therefore becoming EXACTLY who abused THEM which wad a traumatized bitter resentful human who didn’t have the tools to do any betterand also probably blamed others for their lack of growth.
Kind of like the woke left extremists and the extreme insane right wingers. Both parties are the same people thinking they did something “different” than their parents when the results are blatantly obviously so similar in outcome.
Lots of traumatized people still in lots of pain trying to “save others” when their pain is raw doing a whole lots of pretending they don’t hate others with different opinions or different life experiences while screaming “peace” through clenched teeth. How is this not EXACTLY the extreme right wing and their “take” on the love of Jesus. This is all about control of others for both parties. Fear based people need certainty to feel safe.
Life is messy, kids gets hurt, people die, marriages fail, pain happened yet our culture thinks that the “fix” is with the other people, when if people understood human behavior, the brain, and trauma they would see this is an inside job and the solutions they are fighting so hatefully for, would occur as a natural state of health of the individuals.
I will never conform to this sick snd dis-eased society. Nor will I gaslight myself for somebody else’s “feelings or need for validation” when WE all have trauma and all need certain people to validate us but demanding strangers to do so is as narcissistic as this man.
20 years later: Why don't my children call me?
I suffered years of debilitating claustrophobia from being locked in my room as a child by a grandmother who thought I wasn’t praying enough.
"to a child's level when you talk to *it.*" This guy doesn't even think kids are people.
I was about to say. Why not use “them” or “him or her?” They have a life, they aren’t property. (You’d think someone like him who argues the kid is a life before the kid is a life would realize that.)
What was your first clue? (Light hearted)
They obviously don't see kids as people at all
Like how dare you respect your child, don't you know they're happiest when living in constant fear of abuse and assault (sarcasm!)
They also really don't wanna say they. You know maybe they'll have to admit that it can be a singular pronoun.
To play Devil's advocate, isn't this exactly what the political left and planned parenthood do when referring to an unborn baby? They don't call it a growing child, a boy, a girl, they call them an "it" or a fetus.
@@Skiritai that's cause it's a fetus that can't think yet, not a child
Traumatize your child until they no longer show how unhappy they are? What could go wrong!
right, we do the same to adults it's called jail
@@necropolistc6357
In civilized countrys jails are actually quite good to their prisoners.
This isn't trauma it's called discipline, something you leftist clearly never had otherwise your argumenta wouldn't be as vapid and vacuous as they are.
@@blacky_Ninja what is this connection to a jail? Kids are called dependents for a reason. Because they are dependents of discipline and order to shape their life.
@@graysonrastelli6859
The connection is that NecropolisTC wrote that „traumatizing someone until they don‘t show their true feelings is how jails work“ and i replied that in civilized countrys not even jails are as inhumane as to do what some people do to their own children.
I was obedient because I was abused. I was never happy. I still struggle with ever being happy, and I'm 56.
This guy reminds me of when my dad tried to "fix" the touch-screen monitor (wasn't broken, the rear view camera was just covered with a leaf) on my car by punching it and never paid me back when I had to replace the entire module due to the damage
ADHD is so well documented at this point. Denying it exists is like the flat earth of psychology.
@Nogilthazaa Redditor detected.
@@ltb1345 how are they a redditor?
@Nogilthazaa I don't understand how so many people believe in fucking angels. I though everybody knew that angels don't have sex.
@Nogilthazaa What the-
The United States is 28% atheist
That 82% figure, if true, means there's a good chance that 10% of the American population are atheists that believe in angels
W h a t
People also completely misunderstand ADHD, it can affect people as much as autism does.
"My child is argumentative" is just a translation of "I won't deal with a full human being, I prefer a talking pet". I am happy that my kid is "argumentative" even though it obviously requires more work.
or a puppet, but yeah
If you dont like to discuss with your children, when they grow up they'll resent you for being irrational and not listening to them
@@suezuccati304 My mother spied through my device, found the non legal shotacon anime/art, she got angry, upset and never discussed it with me; i resent her a lot about just that particular situation, it's not like the cartoons are going to make me turn into the same people that violated her within her childhood.
I can't even talk to my mom without her calling me argumentative! It's almost as if she always wants me to agree with her and blindly obey her.
@@failedsocialexperiment2382 wtf
loli shit?
"She will also remember that she never hit her mother again," yeah, and also planned her mother's nursing home once she realized how messed up her mom is.
"She will also remember that she never hit her mother again, she also never spoke to her again after she turned 18, but that's probably unrelated"
What pissed me off as a kid was my dad saying "Because I said so" or " I'm the adult you listen to me" I hated this because he would never explain well what he wanted you to do and when you did it wrong he would explode. I just wanted him to say " Oh because mom is coming home soon and I want the house to look nice for her" Or " I need some help cleaning so could you go pick up your room." But I would hate it when he basically said because I told you to.
I can imagine that. By "Because I said so" and similar sayings, he's basically implying that you are there to resist and not help.
I love how using himself as a source is basically his parenting model.
"How do you know that not explaining things is better parenting?"
"Because I said so."
it's the same as "Why do you think this will work?" "Trust me Bro"
"I have a book"-Ken Ham
It’s like poetry
source: bro just trust me bro
*sudden realization that I've been raised wrong my entire life*
Conservatives: "we're for Liberty & Individuality"
Also Consevatives: "teach your children to obey and never question"
That seems to be a trend. Then you remember that "liberty" and "individuality" are about economics, not personhood. It all quickly fades away when any sort of true human difference that demands compassion and resources comes up.
To put it bluntly, I lean libertarian before I continue. You may believe conservatives are more restrictive than the left but on the political landscape this is false. The Democratic Party campaigns against free speech, political openness, gun rights, debating, and supports costly wars. I believe that children should not be forced by their parents to be obedient. But I also do not believe that democratic aligned teachers should beat on students if they even lean the little bit conservative.
Edit: It’s people like Prager U who give regular republicans bad reputations.
LEFTISM BAD
@@panzerkamphwaggenlll5247 Well that’s hardly constructive now isn’t it?
@@anonymousgiraff5536 that's literally what half of their videos are saying
"obedient children are happy children" sounds like some shit Matilda's parents would tell her and something that Ms.Trunchbull would tell her students
Nah Ms.Trunchbull would gag at the idea of a happy child. She say something more like "The only good a child is worth is their obedience."
The part about how your child will remember you locking them in their room when they're 70 but they'll also remember that they never hit their mom again really resonated with me, because I can counter that with an example from my own childhood.
My parents used corporal punishment, sometimes quite a lot, and once upon a time for some offence, my dad did something that went far beyond a spanking that I'd rather not say but is well outside of what would be considered normal discipline even at that time.
You see, I doubt my dad remembers doing that, because it was just something he did, and although I do remember the punishment, I have absolutely no memory of what I was being punished for, or if I ever did it again. It's just in my memory as trauma.
I'd like to add to this that I don't hate my parents, I perhaps don't have as close a relationship with them as other people have with their parents, but in time they've had the chance to reflect on mistakes they made as parents and make effective apology, and I've learned to forgive them for those mistakes, and as I've got older I've felt they have supported me when I've needed it and that they do love me even if I didn't feel it during my childhood. I'm more recounting this story to counter the notion that abuse and the trauma it inflicts reinforces not doing unwanted behaviour.
I now work in an alternative school tutoring and leading science classes. One of the things that motivates me is that I aim to be the adult I needed in my life when I was the children's age. Sorry to trauma dump, this video very much resonated with me.
“OBEDIENT CHILDREN ARE HAPPY CHILDREN”
has the same energy as:
“OBEDIENT CITIZENS ARE HAPPY CITIZENS”
when 1984 becomes relatable instead of terrifying and dystopic,you know you have shit parents
there is no war in ba sing se
"We are all happy comrades in the Soviet union."
Drugged children are happier than obedient children. Maybe he should recommend that instead. *SARCASM*
No, see, children don't have human rights, and deserve nothing. Adults simply tolerate children, as they are gods compared to children, and children must treat them as such.
I love how people who like pragerU accuse everyone else of not using “science” or “facts and logic” and then turn around and get advice from this guy
They're so stupid, they don't realize how stupid they are.
@@thomasjensen5042 dunning kruger effect
The term "Cargo-Cult Science" is a decent description. These people act like scientists, but without understanding science. They are only interested in the selfish boons that are supposed to come from this superficial act (credibility in the public eye), not its actual function.
The difference is that the original cargo cults were merely naive towards what happened, whereas I suspect that many pseudo-scientists deliberately abuse the process... although many more are probably really just that stupid about it.
@@nerds-nonsense on steroids in this case
@@thomasjensen5042 It's not that PragerU isn't ran by intelligent people, it's that they don't care if what they're saying is true.
I was a child raised like this, and trust me i was not happy. I left that place when i turned 15 because i was so distraught at my circumstances and havent looked back. As a toddler when i cried my father would implement locking me in a room until i stopped, this didnt help me understand anything or help me develop, it just made me repress almost all of my childhood memories of that time period and royally fuck me up. This in no way is good parenting advice
They have it the wrong way I think. It is not "obedient children are happy children", it is "happy children are obedient children"
I am an obedient kid, I am also a happy kid.
I am not happy because I am obedient.
I am obedient because I am happy.
Keep your children happy, explain why they need to do something, because then they do it because they understand why they need to do it.
"mom, can i go play with other kids?"
"no"
"why?"
"because i said so"
now that seems like a happy child to me
That's literally what my parents do and now they wonder why I have no social life
That's what my parents did. For basically every social interaction. I moved out once I turned 19 and haven't talked to them since.
you all need to call your parents and explain yell in detail why make them suffer like you did then get them killed in an accident parents need to be taught lessons film it and put it online so other parents stop making the same mistakes
@@thewildcardperson you have a point, but please, use punctuation. I literally couldn't understand for the first time what were u saying
omfg i'm really thanking all these comments i knew i wasn't the crazy one
If a kid can “pick apart your argument” then it probably wasn’t a good argument, and maybe you should reevaluate it. If my kid can give me a good reason as to why a rule doesn’t work/ is unfair I plan on listening. That’s fair.
Not really. I can pick apart any argument if I used different methods of arguing.
@@cookiemons9097 I can pick apart any argument if I use strawmen and never cite reputable sources. 😃
@@cookiemons9097 you can make a argument just by saying “why”
@@Waffle-dog exactly, thats what i've been saying. And people are like, "A kid would never say that" THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A KID WOULD SAY, lol.
@@ryanhernandez8324 you just strawmanned me, dumbass
"Obedient children are happy children" sounds like the slogan of a cult
For a group of people who hate authority, they sure do love authority.
like love controlling and manipulating, so naturally they'd be upset when they're told what to do, especially if they're being told not to control or manipulate
They don't hate authority, they hate _other people_ having authority.
"Obedient children are happy children." sounds like a quote coming from a dystopian sci-fi setting.
Obedient citizens are good citizens.
Reminds me of "good soldiers follow orders"
@@golgothavirus Execute Order 66!
As someone who reads too many dystopian books I agree
Omg true
Wait, all his sources are his own previous articles?
... So his data, on why parents shouldn't explain themselves to their kids, is literally just "because I said so"?
Thank you 😂 I'm laughing so hard my stomach hurts…
That would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad
Out of all the parents in the world, John is the big daddy lmao XD
Source: “dude trust me”
If you look at a lot of prageru videos, you will come to find once you look into it that a good chunk of the time, the "professor" tends to cite their own papers
My mother never resorted to “Because I said so….” To her, that phrase is proof that the parent doesn’t have a good reason for what they’re telling their kid to do. It also puts forward an attitude of “I’m God, and you can’t question me!”, which is arrogant to say the least.
YUP!
"Surely it's an exaggeration, PragerU couldn't be THAT transparent about how awful they are"
How little I knew.
PragerU on parenting advice:
"when enraged, punish your child severely"
Oversimplified: "I wouldn't recommend that"
and that's how you get a serial killer.
I understood that reference
The last child that was punished severely didn't end to well...
And adolf father punished him. Severely
@@dangernoodle8813 or a dictator
“I’m smart, you’re dumb, I’m big, you’re small, I’m right, you’re wrong. And there’s nothing you can do about it” - Matilda’s Foster Dad, literally a character with the sole purpose of being a bad parent, still explains shit to his kids
*real dad
Matilda wasn't adopted by them, that was her biological family.
"I'm big, you're small" god like quote
pretty sure it was "little" but anyway yeah. good 2 know afterwards just how wholesome devito was off screen during that
he was right about the size part, matilda was a child disprovided of the bigness held by space jam actor michael jordan
@@ConsarnitTokkori She had a bigger brain
PragerU Is genuinely just: "I said it so it's true, what science?"
It’s so dangerous to tell kids to just follow whatever adults say. That has all kinds of bad effects to it
thats why prager says it the litteraly get theire moeny that way
if you can't win an argument against a kid 30 years younger than you by calmly explaining yourself, you've got much bigger problems than being a bad parent
You shouldn't have arguments with a child..
@@andrewt2393 You shouldn't -fight- with your child, but a calm argument that doesn't escalate, where you and your child are in disagreement over something, is something you have to do if you want to have a healthy relationship with the child. You aren't always going to see eye to eye, and that's fine. You need to teach your child, by example, how to get through such a situation, in a civilized manner.
@@andrewt2393 whats wrong with that? arguments ≠ fights
There are children who can be extremely argumentative at age nine. Its a rare occurrence, but you cant expect to win the argument without wasting a lot of time and mental resources in the process.
Other concepts may be more important, such as "we will miss this appointment/errand/opportunity if we sit here arguing",
or "respect others, including the right for your parent to get some rest",
or "the world does not revolve around you, there is such a thing as being too argumentative and people will not like you or care to answer you if you insist too much or if you cannot distinguish between trivial matters and important ones that are worth discussing"
@@thenasadude6878 I agree, absolutely. Kids should be taught not to be nitpicky or to use rhetorical skills just to get what they want. But those are still examples where you explain why the child shouldn't be doing what they're doing. It's not just "because i said so".
In the end, I think a lot of it boils down to trust. A child has to trust you in the first place, for them to listen when you give them a statement like "the world doesn't revolve around you". If they do trust you and look up to you, you don't even have to "win" the argument in the traditional sense
"At 70 your child will remember being locked in a room for a month."
This also answers why some children go no-contact with their families after reaching adulthood.
I did do exactly that. I never got a reason for anything my parents said, if my dad and i got into a argument, he LITERALLY COMPARED HIMSELF TO A FUCKING GORILLA. And on several occasons, he tried to physically assault me. So everytime i think about maybe contacting them again, i quickly remember the mentally scarring shit they would do to me. I didnt even say the horrible shit my step mother would do to me. I dont regret for a second when i decided to go no contact.
@@wooliewurl3471 I’m sorry your parents did that to you. Nobody deserves that. Glad you were able to break contact with them at least.
@@caseys2698 nah its fine, ive had to deal with it most my life so i got used to it
@@wooliewurl3471 I relate to your story a lot, and yeah, I'm also at a point where I'm just used to it and don't care so much anymore
Came to say exactly this. If u can't treat me like an actual human being u have no business being a part of my life
"At age 70, she will remember being in her room for a month when she was 5"
When she's 70, or when you're 70 and she's picking retirement homes?