Brother Knight, Thank you for the wisdom on the legal ramifications of performing throws which result in a person hitting their head on the ground; thus transforming you from victim to..... inmate. I find it best to always focus on controlling a bag guy as much as possible.. IF possible. Especially when deadly force (ie: slamming a persons head into the ground) is not justified.
How come BJJ schools do not incorporate more ground and pound defense tactics in their classes to simulate what happens in the street? I was training at Extreme Couture in Vegas some years back and they started us in the guard with a guy in the guard punching and the other guy looking for submissions and escapes. The BJJ guys that were used to the sports BJJ style were getting thrashed with punches.However one learns how to protect himself, sweep, or escape to get back to their feet pretty quick when punches are raining down on your noggin. I wish that class was taught in all BJJ schools
Thank you for this! I’m teaching my 8 yr old son jujitsu and kickboxing. We have been doing it for a sport and fitness perspective. I have been introducing some self defense concepts against potential bullies and have him work on the body lock take down. We have been drilling that every session as part of a warm up. But I am so worried that they might hurt a potential bully by dropping them on their head. Your options are much better and I will incorporate it in their sessions. Again thank you!
@tie oneon it depends.... but mostly put your leg around and when you feel he's going to pick you up...put your leg behind his leg and grab his hands and put your head down.... Ps- you can watch how to do so on TH-cam... Q: why are u asking me specifically?
Great video. Would you be able to give tips on takedown considerations, on concrete, from front? I.e. single leg or double leg takedowns, modified shoot etc. Thanks!
Fedor Emelienko uses a "double leg scoop slam" as he calls it. He doesn't touch his knees to the ground, nor cut the corner. He stands more upright as he drives through the upper body while cupping behind the knees. I've messed with it and it works very well.
@IamVeryFrozen I just have a modified shoot where I change levels but I don't completely drop the lead knee onto the ground. You still get a lot of moment for the take down.
Nice! I think a lot of people get scared of doing takedowns, but there is a lot of adrenalin and you won't fill it until well after the fight is over. I would rather have a skinned knee then get the shi* beat out of me.
Will this work on someone who knows Akido though? I showed this to a local Akido master and he told me it wouldn't work on him, and since he lived in Japan a long time ago, and has been in Martial Arts a really long time (he even has a full, long beard, and some swords behind his desk at work, mounted on the wall) I tend to believe him, especially when I asked him to show me how he would defend against it--and he said it was too dangerous to really demonstrate--To be honest, I felt like that said volumes about his credibility and compassion for not wanting to misuse his martial arts training. Integrity! Honor!
You’re lucky he didn’t vaporize you with his ki energy on the spot. But I guess that wouldn’t have been very harmonious of him. Still...you’re lucky. And of course this wouldn’t work on a Master of Aikido or of Tai Chi.
I was off grid for 2 weeks. This is good. But becareful with that side hold, a Judoka may apply Uchimata or Harai Goshi. I once was in that position, I used Harai Goshi to my opponent and pin him with uzure kesa gatame.
For sure. Tons of ways to counter that if you linger in that position. But the goal is get there, off balance the guy and takedown without hanging out.
Love this one, my main concern is that when Ryan Hoover, took him down and I’ve notice that Eli elbow is free and can elbow strike but overall is amazing :-)
In a street fight you are fighting for your life. Use maximum force until the person no longer moves. Its also usually more than one person. The first person you go after should be used as an example to the others. You need to make sure they dont get up again, whatever you have to do. Its them or you.
The problem is the optics and perception of others, especially the LEO, judges or jury you will have to explain yourself to if you seriously injure or kill someone. It's counter-intuitive, but in practice for many jurisdictions where it is possible to legally carry and use a firearm for self-defense, you are more likely to be arrested or jailed for injuring or killing someone in an unarmed, hand to hand fight than if you deploy a firearm to defend yourself. The legal threshold for using deadly force, whether it is your hand, a knife/baton/?? or a handgun, is the same. Once you've engaged in a "street-fight" it is harder to convince others you feared for your life and deadly force was necessary to defend yourself. After all, in their eyes, you just demonstrated you are some kind of MMA badass. Unfortunately any fighting technique might unintentionally seriously injure or kill someone. Surviving any fall on hard, irregular surfaces or even just a solid blow to the head or other vital organ cannot be taken for granted. Deciding what circumstances are worthy of the risk is a solemn task.
Have a question not related to the post. I am 10 days post op after having full left hip replacement. Any Ideas, suggestions on solo drills. I know I will not be able to roll for at least 6 months due to possible hip dislocation. Was hoping someone that has experienced this may have some insight (51 6'1 260 lb)
My good friend I train with had a hip replacement very recently. He is back to rolling now, and the most beneficial thing to him during his recovery was yoga.
Second one is too fancy for a street situation - you never get that arm easily like how it seemed, and also that left elbow could easily blow up his nose once their on the floor once the other guy has his both arms trapped. First one effective - although I would go for a choke control if I’m coming from the back or if I get the Guy’s back like that.
If you train these then they are effective and your timing gets better. Nothing works well with a lack of training. But please don’t criticize something you don’t understand and haven’t sufficiently been taught or trained.
My point is anything can happen in a fight and usually it means one person is trying to hurt the other one. You’re sending a message to people who don’t know any better that a fight is like a sport . And that can get someone killed.
George Savino - not sure how in the world you got that message out of it...but sorry for the confusion. These are fight applicable takedowns that work. That’s all.
I love bjj, but never understood why takedowns were not focused on enough. It's a ground art, so you gotta get it there. I like a wrestle-jitsu style and to me the guard is an insurance policy just in case. Fantastic video.
I think takedowns have been less and less emphasized because they aren’t terribly important in competition under most BJJ rulesets, especially IBJJF. Which is a shame. I agree that adding in more wrestling conventions for takedowns enhances it. Thanks for the comment!
That hip flexor trick is a game changer!! So easy 😮
I thought Eli and Ryan were about to bust a dope freestyle!
That was off camera.
It's Mike.
@@ianmcfadden2794 icy mike
Thanks do more street and reality based self defence fight....
Great video gents. People don’t truly realize how one bad decision can affect the rest of your life. Excellent content
Super! Your "street based" videos are the ones I like more...
Background looking like a stage outta Tekken.
LOL
Great to see self-defence/control videos that show awareness of the legal context.
Nice to see McGregor and Diaz getting along now 🙂
Amazing use of hip cut and knee bump thank you rfor sharing this
Brother Knight,
Thank you for the wisdom on the legal ramifications of performing throws which result in a person hitting their head on the ground; thus transforming you from victim to..... inmate. I find it best to always focus on controlling a bag guy as much as possible.. IF possible. Especially when deadly force (ie: slamming a persons head into the ground) is not justified.
by far one of my favorite and easiest takedowns
How come BJJ schools do not incorporate more ground and pound defense tactics in their classes to simulate what happens in the street? I was training at Extreme Couture in Vegas some years back and they started us in the guard with a guy in the guard punching and the other guy looking for submissions and escapes. The BJJ guys that were used to the sports BJJ style were getting thrashed with punches.However one learns how to protect himself, sweep, or escape to get back to their feet pretty quick when punches are raining down on your noggin. I wish that class was taught in all BJJ schools
I have to agree with you. And I think it’s imperative to train with strikes.
Yes! And Extreme Couture (XC) is a spectacular mma gym.
Thank you for this! I’m teaching my 8 yr old son jujitsu and kickboxing. We have been doing it for a sport and fitness perspective. I have been introducing some self defense concepts against potential bullies and have him work on the body lock take down. We have been drilling that every session as part of a warm up. But I am so worried that they might hurt a potential bully by dropping them on their head. Your options are much better and I will incorporate it in their sessions. Again thank you!
Thank you , this is the type videos Iam looking forward to see
In street is not like in the cage... you could hurt yourself doing suplex..
Nice video!
@tie oneon it depends.... but mostly put your leg around and when you feel he's going to pick you up...put your leg behind his leg and grab his hands and put your head down....
Ps- you can watch how to do so on TH-cam...
Q: why are u asking me specifically?
@tie oneon did I answer your question?
Awesome content. No need to kill someone to defend yourself in most situations.. that’s another reason why I love grappling and submissions.
Great video.
Would you be able to give tips on takedown considerations, on concrete, from front? I.e. single leg or double leg takedowns, modified shoot etc. Thanks!
Fedor Emelienko uses a "double leg scoop slam" as he calls it. He doesn't touch his knees to the ground, nor cut the corner. He stands more upright as he drives through the upper body while cupping behind the knees. I've messed with it and it works very well.
Thanks for the advice guys, I'll try the modified shoot and work on the single
@IamVeryFrozen I just have a modified shoot where I change levels but I don't completely drop the lead knee onto the ground. You still get a lot of moment for the take down.
Nice! I think a lot of people get scared of doing takedowns, but there is a lot of adrenalin and you won't fill it until well after the fight is over. I would rather have a skinned knee then get the shi* beat out of me.
Will this work on someone who knows Akido though? I showed this to a local Akido master and he told me it wouldn't work on him, and since he lived in Japan a long time ago, and has been in Martial Arts a really long time (he even has a full, long beard, and some swords behind his desk at work, mounted on the wall) I tend to believe him, especially when I asked him to show me how he would defend against it--and he said it was too dangerous to really demonstrate--To be honest, I felt like that said volumes about his credibility and compassion for not wanting to misuse his martial arts training. Integrity! Honor!
You’re lucky he didn’t vaporize you with his ki energy on the spot. But I guess that wouldn’t have been very harmonious of him. Still...you’re lucky. And of course this wouldn’t work on a Master of Aikido or of Tai Chi.
@@KnightJiuJitsu Ok thanks, now I know you are legit. (PS: Please know, I won't mention anything about our conversation, I think lives near you).
@@KnightJiuJitsu PPS: You and Kama JJ have great material ! Thanks!
I love learning from your vids.
Thank you!
@@KnightJiuJitsu thank you sir for the valuable lessons you take the time to teach.
Favorit !
Awesome !
Nice work!
Like you guys. I wish I could see more of your rants about self-defense and BJJ. I heard a lot of them on Funker Tactical. But really, wanna see more.
Fast & Furious Presents: Street-Based Takedown Considerations
I was off grid for 2 weeks. This is good. But becareful with that side hold, a Judoka may apply Uchimata or Harai Goshi.
I once was in that position, I used Harai Goshi to my opponent and pin him with uzure kesa gatame.
For sure. Tons of ways to counter that if you linger in that position. But the goal is get there, off balance the guy and takedown without hanging out.
This is good stuff
Love this one, my main concern is that when Ryan Hoover, took him down and I’ve notice that Eli elbow is free and can elbow strike but overall is amazing :-)
There’s no way I could have elbowed him with any effectiveness from there. And he could have revisited strikes on me way worse.
@@KnightJiuJitsu true that and thanks for pointing that out, professor :-)
Just put your chest with some pressure upon his elbow.
That thumbnail is apropos for pride month.
Well done fellas.
Your ink looks sick bro
In a street fight you are fighting for your life. Use maximum force until the person no longer moves. Its also usually more than one person. The first person you go after should be used as an example to the others. You need to make sure they dont get up again, whatever you have to do. Its them or you.
That’s horrible advice. Context dictates everything and what you’re describing is advocating murder.
The problem is the optics and perception of others, especially the LEO, judges or jury you will have to explain yourself to if you seriously injure or kill someone.
It's counter-intuitive, but in practice for many jurisdictions where it is possible to legally carry and use a firearm for self-defense, you are more likely to be arrested or jailed for injuring or killing someone in an unarmed, hand to hand fight than if you deploy a firearm to defend yourself. The legal threshold for using deadly force, whether it is your hand, a knife/baton/?? or a handgun, is the same.
Once you've engaged in a "street-fight" it is harder to convince others you feared for your life and deadly force was necessary to defend yourself. After all, in their eyes, you just demonstrated you are some kind of MMA badass.
Unfortunately any fighting technique might unintentionally seriously injure or kill someone. Surviving any fall on hard, irregular surfaces or even just a solid blow to the head or other vital organ cannot be taken for granted. Deciding what circumstances are worthy of the risk is a solemn task.
Have a question not related to the post. I am 10 days post op after having full left hip replacement. Any Ideas, suggestions on solo drills. I know I will not be able to roll for at least 6 months due to possible hip dislocation. Was hoping someone that has experienced this may have some insight (51 6'1 260 lb)
My good friend I train with had a hip replacement very recently. He is back to rolling now, and the most beneficial thing to him during his recovery was yoga.
@@KnightJiuJitsu Yoga? Will give it a go. My flexibility is on the crappy side anyway. Two birds with one stone. Thanks
Second one is too fancy for a street situation - you never get that arm easily like how it seemed, and also that left elbow could easily blow up his nose once their on the floor once the other guy has his both arms trapped. First one effective - although I would go for a choke control if I’m coming from the back or if I get the Guy’s back like that.
If you train these then they are effective and your timing gets better. Nothing works well with a lack of training. But please don’t criticize something you don’t understand and haven’t sufficiently been taught or trained.
where are you guys?
looks tropical
Veracruz, México for this one
👍👍🖒🖒👌
Like !!
After the 40 ‘s my friend, avoid take down on the cement!! Punch, kick take off.
Where are you’re shoes? If someone is trying to kill you you should be gentle?
Who said anything about anyone trying to kill anyone? Not all fights have to be to the death and most aren’t.
My point is anything can happen in a fight and usually it means one person is trying to hurt the other one. You’re sending a message to people who don’t know any better that a fight is like a sport . And that can get someone killed.
George Savino - not sure how in the world you got that message out of it...but sorry for the confusion. These are fight applicable takedowns that work. That’s all.
Just be cognizant of a potential reverse elbow to the head on #2
"Yes? Police? There are 2 spanish canadian surfers reformed gangbangers on my deck acting silly and with no shoes on."
🤣
Hip Flexor is a pressure point..... I thought Ryan didn't believe in pressure points.....hahahaha
Is no one going to mention the fucking hat
I’ll mention it. It’s a hat. I’m wearing it. My head had gotten sunburned from being outside in Mexico all day. What else do you want to know?
Wow barefoot soles are very very clean
Gay
I’m confused...you said my “ink looks sick” and then you said “gay”.....
The camera focus is awful.
I love bjj, but never understood why takedowns were not focused on enough. It's a ground art, so you gotta get it there. I like a wrestle-jitsu style and to me the guard is an insurance policy just in case. Fantastic video.
I think takedowns have been less and less emphasized because they aren’t terribly important in competition under most BJJ rulesets, especially IBJJF. Which is a shame. I agree that adding in more wrestling conventions for takedowns enhances it. Thanks for the comment!