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- Looking at the lyrical meaning of NMIXX's recent title track song See That? (별별별)
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They also have 위로 더 which sounds very much like 'weirdo' in English.
wooooah crazy😮
Thanks for the translation!
Fe304 could have been a full album cuz both EPs match so well put together! 2 of my top 5 releases this year, no doubt!❤
I rlly wasn’t expecting it, but I actually loved the title track. Especially haewon’s part in the prechorus and the bridge. the bridge rlly hit different especially after hearing the a Cappella version
which bridge?
@@dwaesui the ‘woah, ooh-woah, ooh-woah, ooh-woah’ part before the last chorus
this is actually my fav nmixx album, the album was so cohesive and it just clicked with me
I noticed the wordplay from the first listening as S-Class by stray kids also uses this word as chorus and they talked about double meaning behind it a lot .
Also I think that Nmixx are also doing additional wordplay in chorus, when they sing "We go up higher and higher" which is korean lyrics is "우린 we, we, we, we, 위로 위로 더" and to me "위로 더" sounds like "weirdo"
Just wanted to share thoughts
I also thought See That is similiar to S Class. Both have similiar chorus.
Speaking of which, I think NMIXX is following a similar path as SKZ. Remember in their early years SKZ music was different to your average kpop song. Many people didn't comprehend their musical direction and people called their music "noise music" and also called them "JYP flops" bc their company and kpop fans had little hope for them. I could see a similar pattern with NMIXX. Right now kpop fans are complaining that they're trash at doing mixxpop and they should change their style. I mean i get it with O.O but their songs after that improved and got better. I'm sure they will be more successful in the future. I mean they're only been around for two years. They got time.
Yess omg I thought I was the only one that noticed the "urin wiro deo" sounds like "urin weirdo"
@@orion5445 I think jyp just needs to get them good producers that can work well with them
right i didn't notice that
Break and Stick Out are genuinely two of the best EPs I've ever heard from a 4th gen girl group. It surprised me how much NMIXX fits hiphop concepts, but it suits them so well. Both mini albums also showcase a variety of genres and sounds, with great production and interesting lyrics, while also highlighting the members' great vocals as well as rap skills. Both EPs also have a distinct theme and message that is cohesive, and both EPs in this series connect well. I love how these two EPs also feature MIXXPOP songs as bsides, like BOOM (a standout track from Break imo). NMIXX is truly for the weird girls. They're not for everybody, and that's part of the many reasons as to what makes them so special and unique
별 can also be short for 별로 which means "so-so" or "whatever" in Korean. So it has a double meaning. On one side, it's them reiterating that people often call them "so-so" or that they are "whatever", but on the flip end, it can also be mean star. So when they go "wow look at those weirdos/stars", they are implying that however way you view them, either so-so or stars, they don't care and will continue to be themselves.
Edit: I also wanted to add that one of the last lines in the chorus is "그래, 난 별별별" which translates to "Indeed, I'm so-so/star" so again, it's NMIXX embracing that they are both strange, but stars.
"별로" is not the case here, in my opinion as a native Korean speaker. Instead, it is most likely to be a reference to "별의 별" or "별별".
"별의 별(別의 別)", or "별별(別別)" in short, is a common phrase in Korean that may be translated to "different in many ways", but more in a negative and sarcastic sense. It's commonly used with the word "인간(human)", derogatory in a sense compared to "사람(person/people)", like "별의 별 인간이 다 있네." meaning "there are a bunch of 별의 별 humans", or simply "there are a bunch of weirods." "별별별", the case for NMIXX's new track, is not a common way of using this phrase -- which confused me as well -- but I am pretty sure it aimed for this context. Just to let you know!
Very well explanation sir 👏👏👏
It took me a day to fully absorb its structure, layers, transitions etc. Their live performance on TheKstarNextDoor where they added adlibs, made me love 별별별 even more.
I liked the album! Fe3O4: Break is still my favorite album from NMIXX but Stick Out is up there as well. My favorite songs are Red light sign but we go and Beat Beat 💖 See that is good but I kinda ruined it to myself by playing it too much while streaming the MV 😭🤦🏻♀️ I wonder how I would feel about it in 6 months or so. The mv, choreo, promo videos and photoshoots are great though - I could tell that from the get-go. Also, everyone looks so pretty and charismatic in the mv, I feel like this comeback can be a turning point for them in terms of how they present themselves
"별의 별(別의 別)", or "별별(別別)" in short, is a common phrase in Korean that may be translated to "different in many ways", but more in a negative and sarcastic sense. It's commonly used with the word "인간(human)", derogatory in a sense compared to "사람(person/people)", like "별의 별 인간이 다 있네." meaning "there are a bunch of 별의 별 humans", or simply "there are a bunch of weirods." "별별별", the case for NMIXX's new track, is not a common way of using this phrase -- which confused me as well -- but I am pretty sure it aimed for this context. Just to let you know!
Thank you for this translation explanation!
I enjoyed this release and recent sound from NMIXX! The chorus is so fun to sing along to, but the meaning makes me love it more! ❤
i’m obsessed with the chorus like it’s so weird and fun
I feel like the lesson JYPE took after Love Me Like This is that 90s rnb with naturalistic instrumentals is the right sound for NMIXX title tracks and I think it's pretty good but I don't think it 100% works.
I think considering the weirdness angle gives a good reason for why. It's just not very weird to use natural drums. Red light sign, but we go has more of the griminess that I really love on O.O.
Really do need wordplay with double meanings to happen more in KPOP songs right now!
Yay Choujimi explaining Nmixx Lore!
Who needs a full album when Break and Stick Out are the minis?
It's astonishing that they can release something as good or better than Break in the same calendar year.
this video was very helpful actually :D the title track itself is great, ineresting & just so so nmixx! the other songs on the album are good as well ^^
kinda love how you just came, dropped a 3 min explanation of your extensive research and understanding of the song and left
No experience with hanja really, but your understanding on the wordplay going on is the same as mine. Also about the release and the album, I think it's a bit weaker than their previous project while also somewhat walking in its footsteps somehow? See That? really feels like an attempt at catching the magic of DASH while also changing up a couple of things. They definitely feel like releases that are paired together and it makes sense considering the success of DASH (still one of my favourite releases of this year).
It took me a bit to really get it, but I've definitely reconciled with See That? and constantly find myself humming the song now so I think it succeeded in doing what it needed to do. As for the album though, it's really weak in my opinion. Red light sign, but we go is the only somewhat standout to me, which is really unfortunate considering how much I love their previous album. I'm just hoping the next album will wow me more cause I do want to support NMIXX!
I looooove red light sign, but we go. Beautiful amazing song. Best song on the album. Sure it’s repetitive but it’s just so good! The horns or trumpets or whatever?! Yes! Also I love the thing JYP is doing in their songs lately like with Naeyon’s abcd where it ends on like the middle word of the chorus. So fun. The rest of the album… I’m mixed. Sickuhhh is kinda good if you can look past the slight cringe lol. BEAT BEAT is nice also but I don’t love how they borrowed the same very identifiable refrain word from Run for Roses. I see this album as them trying out some different sounds and I appreciate it for what it is.
I’m all for deep lyricism, but sometimes Red Light Sign, But We Go, Red Light- Red Light- But We Go, Red Light Sign, But We Go, Red Light- Red Light- But We Go, Red Light Sign, But We Go, Red Light- Red Light- But We Go
Same, I love red light sign but we go ! It’s slightly sad with the instrumental which makes me tear up 😭
@@uzuilover4ever omg same…. It’s what made me remember I needed to refill my antidepressants 💀
@@dean.mcmxcvi so true 💀 just cried to it LMAO
@@fimbulvetr6129 real
In Japanese, the word 違う (chigau) refers to the use of ‘different’ in this context, but 他の (hoka no) can refer to ‘different’ as in ‘others’ or being part of ‘the other’. There doesn’t seem to be much resemblance with the character presented with byeol/bia 🤔 let me update this comment after I check something
Edit: the official translation used by JYP for the song is actually v interesting this regard ! You’re right - that Hanja is used most often in Japanese as 別 (betsu). Depending on the exact sentence, translation of it will vary, but the best way to see it is as ‘difference’, ‘distinction’. But JYP uses ‘可笑しいな人’ (okashii na hito), probably because it has less positive connotations more aligned with the connotations of ‘weirdo’. Like in English though, the wordplay gets kinda lost in translation as byeol meaning ‘star’ is 星 (hoshi) in Japanese. I would love to know what the equivalent pun would be. I’ll have to keep looking 😤
Edit 2: In English, the best translation might be ‘space cadet’ 😅 it would maybe sound awkward if sung but I’m coming at this purely from translation POV. It has the starry connotations while still being about a ‘weirdo’. It also has further implications about a person who technically pushes humanity forward, bringing new ideas to the world, etc. Japanese equivalent still kinda lost on me tho
I disagree with the creator in this video because I think the lyrics are more so in reference to the Korean word 별로 which means "so-so" or "whatever". In certain context, it can also mean strange/weird.
I definitely liked the album, but it is not Fe3O4: BREAK levels of almost perfect.
See That was certainly a fun title track, the change up was both a bit too seamless and a bit too jarring. I think I saw Lily say it was inspired by Country, which on a hip-hop album is… a choice. It’s certainly weird (weird weird), maybe it’ll grow on me. The final prechorus? (the Ohhh-ooo-ohhh section) is definitely my favorite part though
Some Bsides that Stick Out (heh) to me are certainly “Red Light Sign, But We Go”, “BEAT BEAT”, and “Love is Lonely”.
Overall? Certainly a sequel, but is definitely not Shrek 2 levels of Sequel.
NMIXX is so unique and never leave the path that they started since O.O
Stray kids fans watching this video-
😂.
Anyway, the conetnt you are curning out is so good i had to stop and scream to appriciate it.😂.
I wish you made a couple of more videos about this comeback. Bcz you are one fo the few people who get nmixx the way i do. (Its very difficult to find people like that these days).
Another Choujimi banger!
I absolutely adore episodes where you talk about language in any capacity. I studied Japanese in high school and linguistics in college, but never Chinese or Korean specifically (although I did teach myself to read Hangul for practical reasons), so I'm always fascinated to learn about the nuances of language between the three. There is so much wordplay that goes right over my head.
Makes sense lol i thought they were being mean oop
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Thankyou for explaining, that's actually clever
This has seriously been on my mind so much, I was so happy you put out this explanation
in love with this cb
I also thought they were calling weirdos stars
This song is one of my favorites from Nmixx. So good. I actually thought that might be the meaning of the song, but wasn't sure.
This as a follow up to dahs isn’t bad but not great either I enjoyed the album but it was underwhelming in some parts but in general it’s a decent album
At first I was really confused about the translation. I knew 별 as star, but as someone that study mandarin, I suspected something, but didn't get how star became weirdo. "年年" being "every year" when "年" is year seems logic, but with weirdo it wasn't at all. You just proved me that I will never have any level in mandarin by just studying it at school, but that's okay, I already knew it !
Ok can we talk about his voice????? I mean it seems like a 3b1b math video😆💜
I appreciate this explaination :) My faves are love is lonely and moving on
I found this with stray kids' s-class too but never understood what it meant
haewon also said that they mean that all of the weirdos are stars because they mean the same thing in the chorus
My favorite songs from this release is also Red Light Sign and Love is Lonely!!!
I'm not really a fan of this TT, despite the wordplay. Although I think I like the production more than Dash, it's a bit hard on the ears and I wish they utilized their vocals more rather than being experimental. Tbh, I loved the lyricism in XOXO even more (haven't looked into that for the Fe3O4: Stick Out B-sides yet)
I am happy I at least got my Nmixx ballad Fei Fei :D
thank you for explaining cause I was confused and didnt know where to start 😂
Thank you for the insight!
i was just thinking abt this
love your video and helps me understand a lot better, and also i ADORE the title track because i love experimental music! not just indiscriminately though - O.O and Dice were experimental but personally i didnt like the results, which is the nature of being experimental and that's okay. everything post-Dice has hit so hard for me!!!
Thank you for the in-depth translation explanation! I was wondering why it didn't translate to "star" for the most part
That's really interesting. I was a bit confused about the lyrics. Looking forward to a longer video on the new album.