Why Finland's schools outperform most others across the developed world || FOREIGN REACTS

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  • @julianaFinn
    @julianaFinn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    So I did all my primary schooling in Finland, and when I started high school in Australia, I was shocked. Stuff we learned at age 16 in history in Australia, I had already covered in grade 5, as well as 2 languages. The hours shocked me and we got a hot meal for lunch as well. I skipped several grades in Australia due to my Finnish basic education. Don't feel bad, Australia isn't great either lol.

  • @pen7759
    @pen7759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I think that you didn´t notice that the Finnish girl selling coffee was only eleven yrs old, already speaking english.
    This kind of school is every new school so far I´ve seen.

    • @MrHole79
      @MrHole79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yes, and she even knew what a tip is even we don't have a tip culture here in Finland..

    • @pialindh8716
      @pialindh8716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Sweden all students learn English from third grade ( 9 years old) It have been standard since the late fifties. Most children now days learn earlier because of TV and computer games.

    • @juri_xiii9977
      @juri_xiii9977 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pialindh8716 Same here in Finland..

    • @hennahallikainen711
      @hennahallikainen711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My son is ten years old. Turning eleven and speaks fluent English. In this august starting to learn swedish.

  • @Stephanthesearcher
    @Stephanthesearcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    what you seem to oversee: the reporter is talking to that girl in the cafeteria in english, she might be 11-12 years old and is fluent in english

    • @annina134
      @annina134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, just what I was thinking too.. 😉

    • @annina134
      @annina134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And it's maybe the girls third language that she can speak. 🙂

    • @carinalind8726
      @carinalind8726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well in Sweden and probably so in Finland our kids speaks english at an early age. We have no subtitles on any foreign movies or series, so they hear the language all the time, and as for my daughter she was online seeing things on TH-cam at an early age of ten and read books in english at eleven. She's now 18 and she's fluent in english!! Better than me though I spent a year in Canada in my youth. So don't be surprised of these kids speaking english. They all do here in the northen countries!!!😁

    • @KolonE
      @KolonE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@carinalind8726 It's basically a crime in Finland to watch any movie or series in English or any other foreign language without subtitles even though we might not need them lol

    • @carinalind8726
      @carinalind8726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KolonE absolutly so!! Thats why we don't have a problem with it; growing up with all our favoriteshows in english and therefore learning the language!!!

  • @petrabydzovska2064
    @petrabydzovska2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The master's degree is a must too for all the teachers in the Czech Republic...

    • @allualex2606
      @allualex2606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why are so many Czech escorts in Finland?

    • @petrabydzovska2064
      @petrabydzovska2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@allualex2606 No idea,to help the finns to get laid?

  • @Smuglu
    @Smuglu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Yeah, the equality of Finland schools is great. It's great to mix poorer and richer kids in an equal setting, so there won't be much "class divide" in the culture laiter.
    ie: my childhood best friend was the son of the biggest flower distributer in Finland and we were on the same class, while I'm from a relatively poor single mother household. But through my friend my mom got invited to my friends parents get togethers and I remember her fangirling over some poet that was also there.

  • @annarasmus8737
    @annarasmus8737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thank you for reacting to the school world in my country. I've gone through all my basic education in Finland, as well as all the rest of my degrees. We also took care of the schools cafe in the 90s. Now, at 41, I have 4 different degrees in 4 different fields, I'm multilingual, have travelled the world, and am now watching my own kids go through their school. Taking into account that I've been a multisick painchronic from a young age, but with our healthcare even that hasn't been a problem. Proud of my country. 🙏🇫🇮 Finnishmama

  • @jens1924
    @jens1924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Not all the schools have all of these things. The schools kind of decide where they direct extra money they have. I was an assistant in a small rural school for a year & got the task of ordering all of the supplies for the next year. Took me 2 whole days to do that. First was spent by asking all of the teachers what they needed, then going through all of the existing supplies & telling the teacher what was available (arts & craft). Then I made a preliminary list & double checked with the teachers before ordering. Let me tell you, it's not as easy as it sounds to order enough glue, fabric, cardboard, paints, brushes etc. for a whole school for an year. Especially when the teachers were like "well, order what you think we need"... 😂
    So city schools do get more opportunities to offer languages etc. because it's far easier to get a teacher there.

  • @uikonimi
    @uikonimi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well of course the teachers need to have a master's degree, you wouldn't want a hobbyist teaching your kids about dangerous chemicals!

  • @sniikkipollo596
    @sniikkipollo596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    not every school that fancy where i was at in da "hood" it seems were 1 ping table 1 no batsnorballs crooked hoop and kids kickin in doors and smokin cigs.

  • @boredutopia
    @boredutopia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finland teach kids how to live. I mean way funnier to run school cafe and learn math like that and about finance than sitting in class staring to book,board,teacher.she is like 8 and can have conversation with native English speaker. Btw in Croatia is same, 5hey must have masteries in certain field and also mastery in working with kids,can't remember English word.

  • @chriszorander9333
    @chriszorander9333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Additionally, the USA spends more money per student than Finland does. So Finland does better with less money.

  • @TheNismo777
    @TheNismo777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Our schools are slowly going down in quality, thats the reality in Finland.

    • @AbyssWatcher745
      @AbyssWatcher745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How come? And in what way is it going down in quality?

    • @ristusnotta1653
      @ristusnotta1653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AbyssWatcher745 the results are worse every year

    • @AbyssWatcher745
      @AbyssWatcher745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ristusnotta1653 is it maybe because online schooling due to covid?

    • @ristusnotta1653
      @ristusnotta1653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AbyssWatcher745 no it was already before covid

    • @duhni4551
      @duhni4551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AbyssWatcher745 It is not as dramatic as he makes it sound, but there were bad decisions about funding by government which resulted to larger classes and less teachers.
      Nothing that can't be fixed easily, after life gets back to normal that is, can't really do that now under all the restrictions etc.

  • @ManunKanava
    @ManunKanava 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not every school has these kinds of playing tables nor playstation or cafe. But most bigger schools have. My closest elementary school that haves at the moment 30-40 students, doesnt have any inside playing things, but all of the other things it has.

  • @renevw5812
    @renevw5812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Offcourse a salary is important, but its more the joy of life. Can your salary help you have a beautiful life. What i have seen in the Scandinavian countries its the whole package. What is NOT so important is the car you drive or that luxury items, or if you make it to a multinational level CEO. Its about life, friends, freedom and enjoyment.

    • @sikrijo
      @sikrijo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true. Especially with teachers. Old finnish joke says that "there is three good reasons to be a teacher: june, july and august".

  • @ristusnotta1653
    @ristusnotta1653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is old info the Finnish schooling system has actually gone downhill for a while

    • @LobsterminatorX
      @LobsterminatorX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These days schools only have an Xbox :(

  • @Janttura
    @Janttura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What you said about being too fast to figure thing out is somewhat true. Some of the best teachers are the ones that have gone through some difficulties and understand what some students are going through. I still think one can be a good teacher if you've had a healthy, "normal" life without much of a struggle 😊

  • @magicofshootingstar
    @magicofshootingstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "He could just given him the 5 euros."
    You are missing the point of the cafeteria here! Kids learn how to calculate prices, give back correct amounts of change, calculate how much they should have earned by selling the stuff, count if they have the correct amount in the end of day, order right amounts of things to sell for the next time and so on. It's called "entrepreneurship education".
    So it kinda messes the system a bit if there are people just saying "keep the money". Of course more money is good because it's usually used for stipends, nice extra stuff in school for students or school trips.
    Also most of the school have nice yards to play expecially to smaller kids but not all schools have ping pong, pool and playstation. Most of the schools have maximum of one of those and then just lot of benches and tables to hang around. And as a substitute teacher I have yet to see the school with playstation. 😄

  • @EEE80
    @EEE80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Btw the food you saw was karjalanpiirakka aka karalian pie. If you try it dont make the same mistake as some channels do and eat it just plain. Traditional way to eat it is with egg butter. So keep that in mind 🙂

  • @DR_REDACTED
    @DR_REDACTED 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can tell you this is not what a typical school looks like here. I mean i fucking playstation if only...😂

    • @Gin404
      @Gin404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I live in a fairly small town but we still have a Playstation tho

    • @DR_REDACTED
      @DR_REDACTED 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Gin404 Maaan WTF D: Ok so turnes out schools in Pori are just boring as hell...

    • @duhni4551
      @duhni4551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DR_REDACTED Pori in it self is boring AF, so what do you expect? =D

    • @DR_REDACTED
      @DR_REDACTED 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@duhni4551 Yeah 😂

    • @jokutyyppi4226
      @jokutyyppi4226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, like when i was In elementary school (Im in middle school) we were forced outside even if Im like 7yo and it's -30°C at 7:30am 😐

  • @JPPVESA
    @JPPVESA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the tipping culture, it's not like it just doesn't exist in Finland, but it's something closer to be frowned up than just laughed at.... ...I remember how when I was still in kindergarten age, my dad and I visited a local grill which had a candy shop inside it as well.... I had some "larger" coins to spent on what ever I wanted. So I bought all sorts of sweets and when it came to paying for it, the cashier gave me a receipt and the change.... My dad told me take them, but I told the cashier to keep them...(in my mind I didn't want the smaller coins) but my dad got firm on me for it and told me to always get my change and, most importantly the receipt. That lesson has stuck with me for to this day.
    Money is money, and it builds up over time, the smaller coins went to piggybank after that. Money isn't something to be whimsy with and a product costs what the cashier and receipt says, not a penny more for you or anyone else.
    Adding that not everyone go for a university, or for any a higher degree in education. Trade schools are equally appreciated in Finland, if not even more so. We're fundamentally a hands on kinda society, and skilled work is though off in high regard...
    ..I personally went at first for the higher education route, but after applying for the geography studies twice and not getting in, and having spent a winter in open university studying the first year of said field. I decided to let it go, and reoriented to restoration. Currently a Master of Craft and the Chairman of the Finnish National Guild of Restoration

  • @unknownentity8256
    @unknownentity8256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Avarage salary of a primary school teacher in Finland is about 3.800€/month (after taxes about 3K) so about 45.6K€ Which is very good in Finland our avarage salary is 24K/year.

  • @Joonatan75
    @Joonatan75 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    t wasn't quite truthful, but for the most part it was. What I assume on the basis of what I see amethysts so-called. it is really hard for poor schools to strive higher unless they get a scholarship or are somehow more top-notch, whether my views are correct or whether I have misunderstood. Yes, Finland has the same starting point, whether you are from a poor or rich family, of course the educational background of your parents is somewhat affected.Brought when you took emotions, so what kind of school have you attended? NO need to answer and I understand that intrusive question, but if you want to answer so mind learning more, that's the point. Get to know two Finns who live permanently in the United States and have received their education in Finland and have a so-called upper middle class and correctly understood Finnish university erc. degree is valued in the Americas, I may be wrong, but so understood. No teachers here have a hard salary even if they study for six years in college before preparing. Even more so-called. vocation profession and esteemed profession, this is how I see it myself because I know some teachers, that is, it work to give more content to life than a big bang. sorry for grammar errors.

  • @tervehdys746
    @tervehdys746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    average pay for teachers in finland is around 4 200€ a month, average finnish person makes 3 800€ a month :)

    • @naniyodesu
      @naniyodesu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      HA! Spoken like a person who is not actually a teacher in Finland. Take a 1000€ out of that figure and you'll get closer.

    • @tervehdys746
      @tervehdys746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naniyodesu yeah, i'm not , i just googled it..

  • @spoonzor1
    @spoonzor1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is a late comment but if you read this, please react or listen to Pasi Sahlberg ted talk or whatever from youtube he explains Finlands school system very well and interesting

  • @tamasdanko1528
    @tamasdanko1528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Masters is a requirement for a teacher in most European countries (Slovakia here), but l believe that it doesn't worth the same. Like here you will earn as much as a teacher with a masters degree as somebody with only primary schooling working as a cashier in Lidl or Tesco or whatnot. So they won't make it so hard to get a teaching degree, like if you not just party all semester and do some basic learning, you can manage it. Still a lot of people drop out, they don't take it seriously, and don't value that they get free education. Also I think very few parents and like common people value the teachers job, like they get laughed at if they strike for better payment and every parent knows better how to teach than the teacher.

  • @EEE80
    @EEE80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sry to say but seems that you wanna be the number guy making some dough never to know what that causes to actual people

  • @Van_Wilder
    @Van_Wilder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Checkout the Russian school Artek 👍🏻

  • @teemujauhiainen2728
    @teemujauhiainen2728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All schools in Finland are not like that

  • @idontreadorreply
    @idontreadorreply ปีที่แล้ว

    From experience, Finland is the best country. i wouldn't live anywhere else :)

  • @SweetBrazyN
    @SweetBrazyN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should react to ‘how many countries England has invaded visualised’

  • @andrasbodo
    @andrasbodo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in school they learn to deal with money

  • @sylvienygaard1630
    @sylvienygaard1630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the idea of the student run café in the elementary school. It teaches them arithmetic

    • @sket179
      @sket179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also economics and entrepreneurship, and baking

  • @tommyvictorbuch6960
    @tommyvictorbuch6960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can be highly educated, and still be humble. One does not exclude the other.

  • @Ennui.
    @Ennui. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just from a short Google search (so don't hold me up on this)...
    The average salary of a teacher in Finland is around €3000, which amounts to somewhere around €30k a year (€30k=$34k)

    • @foreignreacts
      @foreignreacts  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Decent wage
      Also thanks for that!

  • @trevordoolan5011
    @trevordoolan5011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's another Video you should check out on the TH-cam --
    How Europe's Poorest Country Became Its Richest in 30 Years
    .

    • @trevordoolan5011
      @trevordoolan5011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How Europe's Poorest Country Became Its Richest In 30 Years --
      th-cam.com/video/FCheF61T8sQ/w-d-xo.html
      .

  • @BlondeNordic
    @BlondeNordic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The school funding should be the same for all schools but in fact it is not. Richer areas do get more money then poor area (South vs North) that is just a fact. South has more population and is richer because of Helsinki and it's neighboring areas ,it is also more expensive to live in Helsinki vs Inari.

  • @petrusinvictus3603
    @petrusinvictus3603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spent a year in the US. Pittsburgh PA. Wow what a school they had in Mt. Lebanon High. 3000 students own football field, tennis courts, inside swimming, a theater. 100 courses to choose! 1986 they had a smoking area(tobacco only) where I met George, young dude like you, I asked: Why have I only seen seven black people here. He told me. And also fixed me with his friend xxxxx. I miss her.

  • @annina134
    @annina134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The average wage for a teacher in Finland is about 4200-4700 euros (looked from the internet. I'm not a teacher and don't know how accurate this information is.)

    • @Janttura
      @Janttura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yap, it depens on the years of experience, the field of study, level and the level of difficulty. In my opinion, median wage would tell more about wages in general but this is the information about avareges we've got.

    • @annina134
      @annina134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Janttura of course it depends on those things. :) And yes, this was just the average wage.

    • @durabelle
      @durabelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen these numbers a lot, but none of my teacher friends make even nearly that much. Some get close to 3000, but no one seems to know anyone getting more than that. So the reality is much lower than average for most. But many of them have also said that they'd rather have more money directed at their school for resources than towards their personal wages, as the continued cuts from school budgets have made teaching much more difficult than it would need to be.

  • @ArchieArpeggio
    @ArchieArpeggio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We had pretty good everything in school already 35 years ago when i started school. That time we didn´t had any game consols at school and first computer that camed in our school was 286 and got Windows 3 propapbly at that time. Those times compurers were so expencive that these days whit that sum of money you could buy 20 basic laptops that does not suck.

  • @trevordoolan5011
    @trevordoolan5011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If ya wanna try some Irish Food, I'd recommend;
    a Cold Dark Stout, washed down with a Sip Of Whiskey...
    ☘🇮🇪☘

  • @NordicWiseguy
    @NordicWiseguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when i was at school when it was time for PE during wintertime we always played hockey. We literally didn't do anything else when it was time for PE and i loved it.

  • @amosamwig8394
    @amosamwig8394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    let me guess, in the us you should already be happy if the seats are comfy while in finland they just basically getting christmas gifts XD

  • @Patrikch100
    @Patrikch100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t tell me master’s degree is not necesary in U.S. I know understand all.

  • @Teodoroviski
    @Teodoroviski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's cool = That's school LOL

    • @foreignreacts
      @foreignreacts  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s cool
      That school
      😴

  • @visko6203
    @visko6203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They be playing 2k man what.

  • @Sammenluola
    @Sammenluola 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from Finland! This might be interesting to you, so I thought to suggest it... How about reacting to a Finnish movie? Kinda fitting the times (unfortunately) would be "The Unknown Soldier" (2017), directed by Aku Louhimies. It's a great dramatization reg an important moment in our history. (You can find the movie on many streaming services, maybe even YT movies?)
    If Finnish music interests you, I recommend Nightwish. Start with their Wacken Open Air concert performances here in YT. "Ghost Love Score" would be a good starting point.

    • @durabelle
      @durabelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      While Nightwish is of course brilliant, I wouldn't necessarily give that as a starting point for Finnish music, seeing how their vocalist is Dutch and sings in English. Although I'm not actually a fan of any Finnish songs in our own language, but they'd give a more authentic experience 😄

    • @HerbaferDBDM
      @HerbaferDBDM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am from Germany and I fell in love with BEHM's Music. Help me keep learning finnish :)

  • @seppoharkkonen5766
    @seppoharkkonen5766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find this video in question horse shit, back when i was in high school we scored 1 and top tier in pisa tests. And according to looking at the current pisa tests and everything. We have gone down slightly, Yes we speak fluent english mostly. And understand the situations around the world, but its going downward sligthly.

  • @crabLT
    @crabLT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finland is a small country, population wise. It has a homogenous, high trust society. It isn't divided amongst the lines of race, culture, religion. That is one of the main reasons this type of system works. It requires trust on a deep societal level. That's why I believe it only can work in homogenous societies.

    • @squidcaps4308
      @squidcaps4308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nope, that has been debunked a long time ago. There is no correlation between homogeneity and education. There is high trust thou, that is a factor. But the main factor really are: equality and research based policies, not based in any single ideology but what works. Schools not having to compete, them having similar resources, same quality in teachers, lack of standardized testing, the amount of personalization it allows where students have a lot to say about their own choices... It is not based on any rigid political or even philosophical ideology but pragmatism. Also since kids from all socioeconomic classes are put together it makes the kid grow up to be more compassionate adults, which further increases trust in the society and solidarity.

    • @durabelle
      @durabelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Religion is mostly kept out of Finnish schools, so schools are getting more and more inclusive for people from different backgrounds. There are some very diverse areas and schools these days in Finland, especially in Helsinki, but the schools aim to unite and stay neutral rather than force anyone to be the same as everyone else. Pupils are being taught to embrace diversity. (In the official curriculum that is, still a lot of work to do on that field in reality unfortunately.) Also there's basically no school uniforms or schools for just one gender, and private schools are still super rare, so most kids growing up in Finland see and get used to all kinds of people from very young, at least in all the bigger cities.

  • @kingofnothing1433
    @kingofnothing1433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Irrelevant

  • @johnveerkamp1501
    @johnveerkamp1501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's not Finland but the Nederlands white the best schools and the happy's kids.