@@ostrakrewetka7604 we have hirelings that are basically empty companions. They should make some NPCs recruitable, that is far more immerssive than random mercenaries. We can respec them anyways and they can come with some unique feats, backgrounds, stats or items. Plus have small quests like with Alfira
@@lunarcryptid this game is my first dnd experience and Im still a little bit confused seeing a bard as damage dealer class or any class tbh. For me definition of bard was always storyteller, cheap medieval singer in crowded tavern. Now im starting having fun tho playing Bard as a main character of good playtrough
I haven't tested this myself yet, but I'm already freaking out over the prospect of killing sweet, sweet Alfira as Durge. So I did a bit of reading up and according to Reddit, once you cross the river west of the grove (following the road leading through the woods and to the blighted village), the event with her will trigger upon your next long rest. I'm planning on doing as much as I can without crossing that line and then take a long rest, cross the river, return to the grove, knock her out and long rest again to get this out of the way. I just hope my Durge-Monk will be powerful enough to lay her out in a single turn and that I won't have to cheeze-quit the game to do it, since I'm on another Honour-run.
There is something I came across with this, speak to the dead still works on her when you cast it, likely a small oversight or possibly you are not you when you lose control... oversight is more likely.
How to save Alfira @ Honor Mode with Dark Urge after patch 7 in about 30min: [SPOILER ALERT] DAY 1: start at the beach, do everything else before the grove entering fight scene, SLEEP FIRST TIME, do the fight, then lastly enter the grove. (Pick Shadowheart, La'Zel and Gale - get Astarion on board, but leave him inside the camp for now, because his bite Cutscene can trigger delay of Alfira show up inside the camp) DAY 2: Don't trigger main healing quest progression there (don't talk to Nettie, Sazza or Auntie Ethel). Don't talk to Alfira. You can make other interactions like recruit wyll until you get Lvl 3. Pick up the Amulet with Guidance on the hill near the Nautiloid, if you like to. While Level up, make sure to pick Feather Fall and Sleep with one character or save a feather fall potion if you find one. Walk to Scratch, while avoiding Brynna and Andrick and don't enter the Blighted Village. Simply walk the bridge and before the Village turn right. Walk further to jump over the River behind Scratch, catch the smuggler's Ring and run left beside the river. Reach Waukeen's Rest, do quests there, walk down to the Zentarim. Walk trough the Zentarim Hiding until you get to the hidden Lift down into the Underdark. Down there, pick the stuff if you want, then pick just one character with Feather Fall and directly jump down to enter the Myconid Colony and get the party back at the Teleporter. Don't interact with the Myconid Kings (avoid Glut). Interact with the merchants and Omeluum if you like to. Directly sneak up to the Arcane Tower with one Sussur Bloom (catched near the Myconid Colony), did the hole Tower for some item upgrades, but i guess thats optional. Go to the camp, talk with Asterion - he now should be honest with you and release to you, that he is a Vampire - that will protect his sneaking bite cutscene and the possible delay for Alfira showing up. The hole Part can easy be done without a single fight, after entering the Druid Grove. You should have Everburn Blade (Nautiloid start with Command drop weapon) or if that did miss twice, because it's Honor Mode, get Hamarhaft in Waukeen's Rest. Finally teleport back to the Druid Grove, walk up to Alfira. Raphael should show up right before her, because the early entering of the Underdark Myconid Colony should trigger what we need. After Raphael's cutscene go to Alfira, DON'T talk to her. TOGGLE NON-LETHAL ATTACKS on! Take Fighter (La'Zel) or a Paladin (Spellslot lv1 needed) for a big hit with the 2-handed weapon and position sneaky behind Alfira. We need a one-hit-melee-attack with 26+ max damage. Cast Sleep lv2 on Alfira and immediatly hit her after that, with the melee class. Sleep should trigger a 100% critical hit, cause it is important to instant knock her down. Now she should be knocked out temporary like the video. Instandly go to camp, SLEEP SECOND TIME, Quill should show up and on DAY 3 Alfira still should play the Guitar and be friendly with you.
Can i still do the music lesson with her to get the instrument proficiency? Im doing an Honor Bard Durge run but i want 3 musicians in my group (Tav, Astarion and Wyll)
I dont know if this is a way to save her but if you rest inside the goblin camp or do something important like saving Karlach or having your first meet with the absolute she wont appear.
Well, just spent the last 2 hours trying to figure out why I couldn't get the Potent robe after finishing the Save the Tieflings quest...all because Alfira died act one...
I cannot do this. I knocked out Sazza and Minthara, killed the goblins. Alfira is not at her regular place... Also, she doesn't show up at the party. She comes to the camp when I move locations - Monastery or Act 2.
That was mentioned in the video shortly. He explicitly stated that you have to do it every day until the replacement appeared (from the day on, on which you first entered the grove).
I'm still amazed how many people still don't know how to save scum honour mode. All you need to do is copy the save file from the story folder, to a folder somewhere else. If you want to reload, just copy from that location back into the story folder. Lil tedious, but it only takes me about 8 seconds to do. I guess console players have to be "honourable" but PC players don't.
@@rodswoodworking7151 Or simply hit CTRL-ALT-DEL and end BG3.exe in task-manager. Works every time and the game will re-start at your last save when you come back - doesn't matter if it's an auto-save or a manual quick-save (F5 still works on Honour-mode). This "saved" my Honour-run a few times when the game glitched out on me and got stuck.
As I've stated in my own post further up, players on Reddit report that crossing the river just west of the grove (following the road to the blighted village) is what triggers Alfira's scene at camp. Haven't confirmed this myself yet, but I found comments from players who have tested this.
@@kayjay5414 Yes, by now I watched a video, where someone saved them both at moonrise tower. You just have to make sure you don’t kill the goblins and let them go. Then you have to save Minthara, two birds, one stone
If there is no avoiding a killing, it seems very "not so nice" of people to think that killing someone else instead of Alfira is a big improvement. And I hope Larian never makes Alfira a companion, because sure it will a stupid story what will remain much like the other companions after launch. So much of the stories in EA were made to crap, that I wonder if the "first chapter" of the story of companions were already made to be cut down just to attract support and clout with promises.
Imo, I really don't think Larian Studio cares much about making new content. Dont get me wrong, I love the game. But bg3 is just divinity 3 with a different pattern, essentially its the same product. I hope i eat my words one day and they expand the subclasses, story, and companions. I think we would of heard something by now since its release on PC.
I really hope Larian Studios makes Alfira a companion in a future patch.
Well I guess there is not enough plot with her to do this. It would cost a lot work but who can do this if not them?
@@ostrakrewetka7604 we have hirelings that are basically empty companions. They should make some NPCs recruitable, that is far more immerssive than random mercenaries. We can respec them anyways and they can come with some unique feats, backgrounds, stats or items. Plus have small quests like with Alfira
Even if they did, she wouldn't be romanceable because she has a girlfriend. It would be nice to have a bard companion though
@@lunarcryptid this game is my first dnd experience and Im still a little bit confused seeing a bard as damage dealer class or any class tbh. For me definition of bard was always storyteller, cheap medieval singer in crowded tavern. Now im starting having fun tho playing Bard as a main character of good playtrough
Larian won't make any more big patches, bugfixes is all we are getting.
I've avoided durge because I can't bare killing Alfira. But killing a dragonborn as a dragonborn. That's madness. But sacrifices must be made
I was so pissed when I killed Alfira. She's my favorite NPC in the game. If I play durge again, you can bet Quill is screwed.
How? Quill shows up when Alfira is already dead. Am I blind to something?
@@ostrakrewetka7604 Quill appears when Alfira is knocked out, not dead, watch the video more attentively
Quil is adorable too, it is so sorrowful that there must be a victim in the Dark Urge's route.
I haven't tested this myself yet, but I'm already freaking out over the prospect of killing sweet, sweet Alfira as Durge. So I did a bit of reading up and according to Reddit, once you cross the river west of the grove (following the road leading through the woods and to the blighted village), the event with her will trigger upon your next long rest. I'm planning on doing as much as I can without crossing that line and then take a long rest, cross the river, return to the grove, knock her out and long rest again to get this out of the way. I just hope my Durge-Monk will be powerful enough to lay her out in a single turn and that I won't have to cheeze-quit the game to do it, since I'm on another Honour-run.
Good luck!
Thank you so much! I did as you told and it worked!
the only time i ever looked up a guide for bg3 xD
And you decided to watch this one of mine. Thanks a lot!
There is something I came across with this, speak to the dead still works on her when you cast it, likely a small oversight or possibly you are not you when you lose control... oversight is more likely.
This death was when the Durge playthrough got real. It right away gave me Orin vibes in A3 which was not surprising!
As much as i like her i think the Durge killing her has more impact than some random dragonborn, she's a bard, most would happily die for the drama
plus she gives you the best chest piece in the game for warlocks/sorcs in act 2
After I heard the Quil sing, I did not regret her end too much. I prefer Alfira alive.
I thought she was cute, but not worth keeping alive over the potent robe.
In the end she’s sends you a letter and found out what you are and decides to stay away from you 😂
her singing is good
How to save Alfira @ Honor Mode with Dark Urge after patch 7 in about 30min: [SPOILER ALERT]
DAY 1:
start at the beach, do everything else before the grove entering fight scene, SLEEP FIRST TIME, do the fight, then lastly enter the grove.
(Pick Shadowheart, La'Zel and Gale - get Astarion on board, but leave him inside the camp for now, because his bite Cutscene can trigger delay of Alfira show up inside the camp)
DAY 2:
Don't trigger main healing quest progression there (don't talk to Nettie, Sazza or Auntie Ethel). Don't talk to Alfira.
You can make other interactions like recruit wyll until you get Lvl 3. Pick up the Amulet with Guidance on the hill near the Nautiloid, if you like to.
While Level up, make sure to pick Feather Fall and Sleep with one character or save a feather fall potion if you find one.
Walk to Scratch, while avoiding Brynna and Andrick and don't enter the Blighted Village. Simply walk the bridge and before the Village turn right.
Walk further to jump over the River behind Scratch, catch the smuggler's Ring and run left beside the river.
Reach Waukeen's Rest, do quests there, walk down to the Zentarim. Walk trough the Zentarim Hiding until you get to the hidden Lift down into the Underdark.
Down there, pick the stuff if you want, then pick just one character with Feather Fall and directly jump down to enter the Myconid Colony and get the party back at the Teleporter.
Don't interact with the Myconid Kings (avoid Glut). Interact with the merchants and Omeluum if you like to.
Directly sneak up to the Arcane Tower with one Sussur Bloom (catched near the Myconid Colony), did the hole Tower for some item upgrades, but i guess thats optional.
Go to the camp, talk with Asterion - he now should be honest with you and release to you, that he is a Vampire - that will protect his sneaking bite cutscene and the possible delay for Alfira showing up. The hole Part can easy be done without a single fight, after entering the Druid Grove.
You should have Everburn Blade (Nautiloid start with Command drop weapon) or if that did miss twice, because it's Honor Mode, get Hamarhaft in Waukeen's Rest.
Finally teleport back to the Druid Grove, walk up to Alfira.
Raphael should show up right before her, because the early entering of the Underdark Myconid Colony should trigger what we need.
After Raphael's cutscene go to Alfira, DON'T talk to her.
TOGGLE NON-LETHAL ATTACKS on!
Take Fighter (La'Zel) or a Paladin (Spellslot lv1 needed) for a big hit with the 2-handed weapon and position sneaky behind Alfira. We need a one-hit-melee-attack with 26+ max damage.
Cast Sleep lv2 on Alfira and immediatly hit her after that, with the melee class. Sleep should trigger a 100% critical hit, cause it is important to instant knock her down.
Now she should be knocked out temporary like the video.
Instandly go to camp, SLEEP SECOND TIME, Quill should show up and on DAY 3 Alfira still should play the Guitar and be friendly with you.
Can i still do the music lesson with her to get the instrument proficiency? Im doing an Honor Bard Durge run but i want 3 musicians in my group (Tav, Astarion and Wyll)
I dont know if this is a way to save her but if you rest inside the goblin camp or do something important like saving Karlach or having your first meet with the absolute she wont appear.
For me, she appears once I move a single step towards the forest after entering the grove, no matter what other events are going on. Tested this.
@@annenym2222the forest where you were fighting the goblins before entering the grove?
@@oklin2376 Just a little to the west from there, in the direction of the bridge.
Would have been interesting if she was a dark urge only companion.
You meet her again in act 2 at the Inn. At least in nonDurge runs. Haven't found her in act 3 in any of my regular runs. Will have to look for her.
Also found out killing DUrge right before falling asleep doesn't save Alfira 😢
I tried that lol they both were dead when I woke up I was like oh bullshit so went to withers and he wouldn't revive her
Well, just spent the last 2 hours trying to figure out why I couldn't get the Potent robe after finishing the Save the Tieflings quest...all because Alfira died act one...
I cannot do this. I knocked out Sazza and Minthara, killed the goblins. Alfira is not at her regular place... Also, she doesn't show up at the party. She comes to the camp when I move locations - Monastery or Act 2.
After doing this, will she still show up in Durge Act 3?
I want to know that too
I did knock her out after speaking to her and she disappeared, does this still work?
Doesnt really work on honour mode, you kind of have to guess when youre getting the scene, rip
That was mentioned in the video shortly. He explicitly stated that you have to do it every day until the replacement appeared (from the day on, on which you first entered the grove).
I'm still amazed how many people still don't know how to save scum honour mode. All you need to do is copy the save file from the story folder, to a folder somewhere else. If you want to reload, just copy from that location back into the story folder. Lil tedious, but it only takes me about 8 seconds to do. I guess console players have to be "honourable" but PC players don't.
@@rodswoodworking7151if you’re going to this length go cheat honor mode you might as well use a trainer
@@rodswoodworking7151 Or simply hit CTRL-ALT-DEL and end BG3.exe in task-manager. Works every time and the game will re-start at your last save when you come back - doesn't matter if it's an auto-save or a manual quick-save (F5 still works on Honour-mode). This "saved" my Honour-run a few times when the game glitched out on me and got stuck.
As I've stated in my own post further up, players on Reddit report that crossing the river just west of the grove (following the road to the blighted village) is what triggers Alfira's scene at camp. Haven't confirmed this myself yet, but I found comments from players who have tested this.
How do you know the knocking out worked? I did a playthrough trying to knock her out and she disappeared. Granted she did see me when I did it lol
As long as you didn’t get the cutscene where you killed her in your camp, she should be travelling to Baldur’s Gate when you finished act 1
i knocked Alfira out, went to camp and took a long rest. but nothing happened. i had no event lined up and no one came. What is wrong there?
Hmm, that's strange. Before you knock her out, did you test if that would have been the night she come visit the camp?
@@nixzxin So i basically have to wait till i see her coming, the reload and go knock her out?
Did you talk to neeti before? I know that she come to visite you after you talk to neeti and kaga.
@@edenlink30 Ooooh…. I had to restart my DU play through so it’s not too late. I will try that this time, thanks :D
Can you also save all the tieflings and the grove as Dark Urge?
Yes, the other video I have for recruiting Minthara while saving the grove is actually on a Dark Urge playthrough.
And save Sazza as well? For the trophy/achievement. Read you could only save Minthara or Sazza but not both
@@nixzxin Ha, great. I know what i wiil do^^
@@kayjay5414 Yes, by now I watched a video, where someone saved them both at moonrise tower.
You just have to make sure you don’t kill the goblins and let them go. Then you have to save Minthara, two birds, one stone
Wtf is going on with Sharts and gales icons on the left they look very Evil
Wait so if I killed everyone at the grove after siding with the goblins she’s dead?
yes because she is part of the grove, therefore shes would be dead along with them.
This didn’t work for me and ruined my current honor dark urge bard playthrough
Nice I really didn't want to kill alfira.
i tryed 15 times in honor mod cant be done😂
It's a shame you can't romance other NPCs or make them your companions. I'd gladly romance Brynna.
If there is no avoiding a killing, it seems very "not so nice" of people to think that killing someone else instead of Alfira is a big improvement. And I hope Larian never makes Alfira a companion, because sure it will a stupid story what will remain much like the other companions after launch. So much of the stories in EA were made to crap, that I wonder if the "first chapter" of the story of companions were already made to be cut down just to attract support and clout with promises.
Wow, auto caption at the start of the video refers to the "Jewish Grove"
Imo, I really don't think Larian Studio cares much about making new content. Dont get me wrong, I love the game. But bg3 is just divinity 3 with a different pattern, essentially its the same product.
I hope i eat my words one day and they expand the subclasses, story, and companions. I think we would of heard something by now since its release on PC.
okay
"Reload your save" 🥲