I love how these episode fall into 1 of 3 categories: 1. Guy you've never heard of who invented the entire modern world. 2. Guy you know barely anything about who was so cartoonishly evil you're both surprised and relieved you didn't know more. 3. Cult leaders who are almost, but never quite, as amazing as L. Ron Hubbard.
Hubbard fits in the second one. The dude so degenerate he literally scammed Alan Parsons and Aleister Crowley after declaring himself the Anti-christ (Alan Parsons and Crowley were extremelly evil occultists)
As a member of that small city's worth of young boys, I thought y'all should know that the class action suit for this shit is going well. Money doesn't fix trauma, but a multibillion dollar settlement really helps shut the acceptance window on this bullshit.
It's weird. I'm in the same camp as Robert; boyscouts all but introduced me to d&d/magic the gathering, gave me love of camping and hiking...it was great. The friendships I made there literally saved my life (bad home life). Knowing how bad that organization has been for others is....hard, you know?
It's a big organization, so there's bound to be a lot of difference in experiences. But I do understand, yeah. It's very awkward and a bit painful to hear secondhand. It's like Robert notes in the episode - An organization this big, you're gonna get some terrible people joining, but the more important thing is how to deal with those.
@@Kyman102 It's the same with the Catholic Church. I grew up Catholic and never experienced any abuse, or heard of anyone being abused. However, one of my teachers of religious education went on a mission to one of the Pacific Islands following his time at our school, abused a bunch of girls, and shot himself days before the police were going to arrest him.
Its also,thankgod doilive in a secular country , an epends on countries,even groups. And yep great time, very fun, and nature exposure,nature is great and camping can be. And pretty good drinking buddies and pretty responsible if a lot . And they tones that drinking down since so yay. Good group. But it depends and as said, very difverent groups out there international,not in the us.
As someone who is in scout leadership for my kids- it is hard. The thing that makes my kids happy caused so much trauma to so many and that's really sad.
I get it. I got all the way to Life Scout, and dropped out because I moved away and got more interested in other pursuits. But the whole service, moral, ethics part of boy scouts is ingrained in me, though I'm sure me being a Democrat would have my former scoutmaster saying he failed me utterly. But knowing how corrupt the entire organization is really hampers my love for it today. Also having to sell that god-awful Trail's End popcorn....
I always had conflicted feelings about the boy scouts. I'm a trans man who was in girl scouts and I had a very mixed experience there. The troop I was in did more camping than any other in my service unit, and if that hadn't been the case, I probably would have dropped out, because my experience was otherwise being outside the clique and bullied by the troop leader's daughter. I was solely interested in the hands-on skills and spending time in nature. I was aware of what kind of stuff the boy scouts did and I wished I could have done that stuff. Whittling, archery, swimming, more frequent camping - it would have been exactly what I wanted. But at the same time, I always got a weird vibe from the boy scouts. Girl scouts is more secular and doesn't tend to take the pledges and ceremony as seriously. It's certainly more rigid than most children's clubs, but not like the boy scouts. I was agnostic and anti-authority and I think I would have felt smothered by the rigidity and religiosity of the boy scouts. But I do still kind of wish I'd been able to be a boy scout. I've heard vague things about other similar sorts of clubs for children, like adventure scouts, and maybe that's a better option for the kids who can join it. Though I don't know if they have any skeletons in their closet, so I could be wrong about that. I think there can be something special about experiencing comradery with others of your gender, though maybe that's the man-over-30 in me. But it can also be healthy to make friends with people different from you and a lot of men could use more genuine friendships with women. And I think every kid can use something that teaches them life skills and has some structure to it, but doesn't try to turn you into a good little soldier of god.
When my ex was 8 years old he went to Boy Scout camp. While there his baby sister had to be put in the hospital and was not expected to live. His father, an ex golden glove champion, decided he better go get my ex. He drove to the camp…meanwhile before he arrived, the boys were getting ready for bed. The Scout master told the boys,”we’re going to play tickle.” He grabbed my ex who just had on his underwear as the rest of the children. He threw a couple of ropes over the rafter beams and tied my ex by the thumbs, as he hung in the air. The rest of the kids were traumatized as they covered themselves under the covers screaming and crying. It was at that moment that my ex’s father walked in. Needless to say, he knocked the Scout master out. My ex remembers two men coming to his house from the corporate office. Because he was so young, he had to leave the room so he doesn’t know what the discussion was about. His parents never told him. That took place in the US in the 1950’s.
Dunno, had a good group and ithikit depends on the country like tey reallly Alsoits basically coop and not girls do cookie things. I thinkits very divere depending . Throgh the BSA sound too not great in a lot of things. I know it started as military teen preperation. i just thingnow how depends. BSA are, .. maybe prolematic thou. Ad yep that foundr warcrimes and other,who knows, yikes, and apearently way more warcrimes than known probably.
@@SkipMullen to anyone listening to this cast, the claim that a scout master tried to torture a mostly naked 8 year old for an audience of other children at night is absolutely the least sus part, and i would not expect that anyone is skeptical of specifically that. if you consider that the doubt is more likely focused on anything else at all in this story of an ex's story, im sure you can understand
@@Willowdog08 Not really, my old Cub Scout Leader was convicted of sexually assaulting children. I've heard stories of a similar nature many times as people feel able to finally talk about this stuff.
My Boy Scout experience was awesome. It took me from being a 1970s TV junkie to learning practical skills, being more self-sufficient, having a sense of accomplishment, being selfless and community minded, made me more thoughtful and compassionate, and gave me sense of a larger purpose. Never even had one scout master say or do anything remotely creepy or inappropriate.
I was bullied by the scoutmasters son, culminating in being held down and whipped with a piece of tire by his son and older brothers without any repercussions for them, and I so I left the boyscouts (If I remember correctly, the response was "boys will be boys")
Some of these quotes, its like you want to say "Do you not hear yourself? do you not hear how that sounds?" Like david cross's character in arrested development
Weird because I was attacked for being demonic by the troop leader and shunned by the rest of the troop for playing D&D. It's why I eventually left once I realized I was an atheist and the abuse would only worsen.
So many people like yourself (and myself) begin our journey of realizing the toxicity of our religion by being alienated for our nerdy hobbies like D&D, MtG, Pokemon and the like. If more religious people would just chill out about that stuff, there probably wouldn't be so many people leaving their religion. Especially if they put in the bare minimum amount of research to learn that those things aren't even bad or demonic at all, actually. But in the end, it's probably a good thing. I'm glad to put religion behind me, and I have controlling, stuffy old men and women afraid of every new thing at least partly to thank. And I'm certain I'm not alone.
I was in the BSA, and for every practical woodsy skill I learned, I also learned a new homophobic, sexist, or racist slur. But as far as I know, there was no sexual abuse in the troop I was in, so I guess I had a "relatively good" experience?
Two things: One - I grew up in Seton Village, just south of Santa Fe NM. Fun! Two - you should do Yukio Mishima at some point. There’s a lot of cross over to Baden Powell.
Hearing the Scout's Law unlocked feelings I haven't had for more than a decade. Other than consequences of the dumbass decisions I made as a child, I had a good time with the BSA. It was a lot of fun to go to all the various places around where I lived, go do activities related and unrelated to nature, and have a group of friends outside of school. I think what really helped is that most of most the parents of my troop were also involved so it was hard for an abuser to get involved and made sure we did fun stuff for everyone.
I'm so ready for pt. 2, i wanna see if you mention my troop! we had a young, popular, local elected official as an assistant Scoutmaster while I was involved (who became an ASM immediately after his 21st birthday, having achieved almost every rank and badge possible in BSA and Venture Patrol (which goes to 21)) who turned out to have molested like 1/3 of the troop for years (as well as kids at his catholic church where he volunteered as well sooooo)
@@mrpink99 yeesh, no but what do you know?? Nah, he was a county board member in upstate NY named Mike Kelsey - widely respected and involved in tons of organizations tho, and only like 40 when he went down (2 years after i aged out of the troop). I don't think it's a stretch to say he was headed to Albany at least, or DC, if everything hadn't come to light (despite the troop's best efforts)
cub scouts was fun, went pretty far in the pinewood derby with a smashmouth tour bus lol, but i remember as soon as it flipped to boy scouts it was the lamest shit ever, its crazy how they claim that getting eagle will help you with jobs and when i managed i noticed every guy that listed that was a huge fuck-off weirdo and completely unemployable
I had heard a similar story from someone who achieved eagle, and knew a few who also did who basically only were scouts, and had basically nothing else to them. It's nice to tack onto the resume, can build connections and by that time you get some good skills. It is not, however, a replacement for a personality lol
I grew up doing all that Scout-y stuff so I waited until I was 18 and got paid to do the tame versions thereof in the Army. It was pretty cool because it was camping with real tents, the marches were all .... wearing shoes ... there was plenty to eat, and we got to shoot machine guns and throw hand grenades. It was pretty awesome.
im late to the game but, i was a scout over here in italy. our branch is the "agesci", which is the italian branch of baden powell's original one. there aren't "boy" or "girl" scout groups over here, we are all mixed genders, only the squads are divided by gender. the first years were fine but quickly everything became too toxic: the chiefs, my other peers. id argue the religion stuff was even worse living in the country of the pope and all. i'd say have a list of the majorly fucked up things that happened over there to me and others lmao - i came out as bisexual to one of my squadmates and one of the chiefs found out and tried to "convert me back to heterosexuality" with the excuse that i couldnt have became a chief myself if i "stayed bisexual" - was told that i couldnt be part of the group at all if i stayed an atheist (plot twist: i'm a nordic pagan now LMAO) - me and the rest of the group (all minors!!) were denied food at the big end feast by the chiefs because we didn't tidy up the camp stuff fast enough. mind you that was going to be our lunch, we barely had breakfast before starting. i wouldve stayed without food if it wasnt for my mother saving up some stuff for me since she didn't see me come. they verbally abused us and screamed at us, a bunch of 12 to 16 year olds, because we werent strong enough to adjust some logs on the back of a truck without some help. that was the last straw for me and my parents. add plenty of bullying and ableism and there you have it!! i'm sure i was just unlucky for the most part but if i ever have children i'll never have them be a scout. we can learn all the nature stuff by going on walks and camping without the borderline cultish behavior.
I suspect that he was attracted to boys but, because of a combination of ignorance and denial, didn't realize that his feelings were sexual. Even if that was the case though it was still his choice to ignore all the red flags and stay ignorant. What he did was inexcusable
I mean would explain that very weird vibes, still, he shoudnt have tempted fate in the first place. Bad. And criminally irresponsibe to ,found a youth group to,unexcusable :(
I was a sister in the boy scouts (not officially IN but in, ya know?) and I also had an amazing time. Honestly an amazing part of my childhood and what happened was just SO FUCKED...
I was in scouting for years, and even though I have a lot of trauma from those days (some of which I still don’t fully remember), nothing nearly as horrific as r*** happened to me. My dad was an active participant in my scouting activities, though, and he never liked my local troop, so I know he was relieved when I quit. I still don’t think anything super shady was going on there, but they ran my troop like a JROTC, which was more than enough to fuck me up.
The story about him sending the Black people out of the military base is obviously Baden sending people he deemed worthless to their deaths is very telling. He knew the enemy would attack anyone who left the protection of the camp.
Unironically, the Baden-Powell thing literally shows up in Star Trek multiple times, one with Kirk. "Conscience of the King". You got two choices...everyone dies, or a smaller number dies. Take a wild guess which choice sane people pick out of two garbage options. If you choose "The Masada Initiative", good for you, but you don't get that option, because if you present it, everyone else will "Masada" you, and chunk your starved body across the wall with a trebuchet at the enemy. Pro-Tip Hint: in the middle of a war that you are trying to win, the correct answer isn't "killing all of my own people so I can win by being wiped out by the enemy so they can win instead". You tell non-coms to leave the area. If they get killed outside your area of control, it's not exactly like you could do anything about it to begin with when everyone is starving. Also unironically, comrades always pick the first option in Stalin & Leningrad, ensuring it drags out to the highest possible population death numbers, with the only thing saving the situation is a turn in weather and the impossibility of logistics ruining the other side while fighting a war on three fronts. Lots & lots of water drinking during those sieges by communists. It did not, however, help whatsoever with no food losing 6000 people a day because you don't know how to run a war. Also even more unironically, Hitlerites always choose that same first option because losing is the entire population wiped out winning friends we made along the way.
I’m really struggling to find anything in terms of about the sexual references you’ve made in this. I’m rather confused where you’ve gotten this from and how reliable it is. It can’t just be oh yeah it’s probably true because someone who we know nothing about said it.
Please don't let this be taken as a poor taste joke, the internet at large, but after the Jew Scouts comment all I can hear is: Praising the lord by moonlight Eating latkes by daylight Follow sacred ascetic rites He is the one they call Jewish Moon 😂😂😂
No idea why my phone auto-corrects has I dic as ascetic. Like you could be a Jewish person who chose to be ascetic, but I meant to sect not the unmaterialist philosophy 😅
Lot of cultural appropriation in scouts, if i remember correctly there was a merit badge for indian lore... even more appropriation in the Order of the Arrow. Yes i was in both. Thankfully i never saw or experienced any abuse in either my troop or unit respectively.
It's weird having grown up listening all my cis male relatives doing or having done the boy scouts, to the point we have multiple eagle scouts in the family and being jealous of that but then growing up and realizing hey, maybe that was a good thing. I still wish I could have done wilderness survival shit as a kid
I love how these episode fall into 1 of 3 categories:
1. Guy you've never heard of who invented the entire modern world.
2. Guy you know barely anything about who was so cartoonishly evil you're both surprised and relieved you didn't know more.
3. Cult leaders who are almost, but never quite, as amazing as L. Ron Hubbard.
They often also bleed into one or both of the others.
That is so cool and true! Thanks for putting these thoughts out here, I appreciate em
Hubbard fits in the second one.
The dude so degenerate he literally scammed Alan Parsons and Aleister Crowley after declaring himself the Anti-christ (Alan Parsons and Crowley were extremelly evil occultists)
As a member of that small city's worth of young boys, I thought y'all should know that the class action suit for this shit is going well. Money doesn't fix trauma, but a multibillion dollar settlement really helps shut the acceptance window on this bullshit.
It's weird. I'm in the same camp as Robert; boyscouts all but introduced me to d&d/magic the gathering, gave me love of camping and hiking...it was great. The friendships I made there literally saved my life (bad home life). Knowing how bad that organization has been for others is....hard, you know?
It's a big organization, so there's bound to be a lot of difference in experiences. But I do understand, yeah. It's very awkward and a bit painful to hear secondhand. It's like Robert notes in the episode - An organization this big, you're gonna get some terrible people joining, but the more important thing is how to deal with those.
@@Kyman102 It's the same with the Catholic Church. I grew up Catholic and never experienced any abuse, or heard of anyone being abused. However, one of my teachers of religious education went on a mission to one of the Pacific Islands following his time at our school, abused a bunch of girls, and shot himself days before the police were going to arrest him.
Its also,thankgod doilive in a secular country , an epends on countries,even groups.
And yep great time, very fun, and nature exposure,nature is great and camping can be. And pretty good drinking buddies and pretty responsible if a lot . And they tones that drinking down since so yay. Good group. But it depends and as said, very difverent groups out there international,not in the us.
As someone who is in scout leadership for my kids- it is hard. The thing that makes my kids happy caused so much trauma to so many and that's really sad.
I get it. I got all the way to Life Scout, and dropped out because I moved away and got more interested in other pursuits. But the whole service, moral, ethics part of boy scouts is ingrained in me, though I'm sure me being a Democrat would have my former scoutmaster saying he failed me utterly. But knowing how corrupt the entire organization is really hampers my love for it today. Also having to sell that god-awful Trail's End popcorn....
I always had conflicted feelings about the boy scouts. I'm a trans man who was in girl scouts and I had a very mixed experience there. The troop I was in did more camping than any other in my service unit, and if that hadn't been the case, I probably would have dropped out, because my experience was otherwise being outside the clique and bullied by the troop leader's daughter. I was solely interested in the hands-on skills and spending time in nature.
I was aware of what kind of stuff the boy scouts did and I wished I could have done that stuff. Whittling, archery, swimming, more frequent camping - it would have been exactly what I wanted. But at the same time, I always got a weird vibe from the boy scouts. Girl scouts is more secular and doesn't tend to take the pledges and ceremony as seriously. It's certainly more rigid than most children's clubs, but not like the boy scouts. I was agnostic and anti-authority and I think I would have felt smothered by the rigidity and religiosity of the boy scouts. But I do still kind of wish I'd been able to be a boy scout.
I've heard vague things about other similar sorts of clubs for children, like adventure scouts, and maybe that's a better option for the kids who can join it. Though I don't know if they have any skeletons in their closet, so I could be wrong about that. I think there can be something special about experiencing comradery with others of your gender, though maybe that's the man-over-30 in me. But it can also be healthy to make friends with people different from you and a lot of men could use more genuine friendships with women. And I think every kid can use something that teaches them life skills and has some structure to it, but doesn't try to turn you into a good little soldier of god.
When my ex was 8 years old he went to Boy Scout camp. While there his baby sister had to be put in the hospital and was not expected to live. His father, an ex golden glove champion, decided he better go get my ex. He drove to the camp…meanwhile before he arrived, the boys were getting ready for bed. The Scout master told the boys,”we’re going to play tickle.” He grabbed my ex who just had on his underwear as the rest of the children. He threw a couple of ropes over the rafter beams and tied my ex by the thumbs, as he hung in the air. The rest of the kids were traumatized as they covered themselves under the covers screaming and crying. It was at that moment that my ex’s father walked in. Needless to say, he knocked the Scout master out. My ex remembers two men coming to his house from the corporate office. Because he was so young, he had to leave the room so he doesn’t know what the discussion was about. His parents never told him. That took place in the US in the 1950’s.
That story seems sus
Dunno, had a good group and ithikit depends on the country like tey reallly
Alsoits basically coop and not girls do cookie things. I thinkits very divere depending .
Throgh the BSA sound too not great in a lot of things. I know it started as military teen preperation. i just thingnow how depends.
BSA are, .. maybe prolematic thou.
Ad yep that foundr warcrimes and other,who knows, yikes, and apearently way more warcrimes than known probably.
@@Willowdog08 and you seem a little skeptical. I don’t know why as 1000’s of children are molested everyday.
@@SkipMullen to anyone listening to this cast, the claim that a scout master tried to torture a mostly naked 8 year old for an audience of other children at night is absolutely the least sus part, and i would not expect that anyone is skeptical of specifically that.
if you consider that the doubt is more likely focused on anything else at all in this story of an ex's story, im sure you can understand
@@Willowdog08 Not really, my old Cub Scout Leader was convicted of sexually assaulting children. I've heard stories of a similar nature many times as people feel able to finally talk about this stuff.
My Boy Scout experience was awesome. It took me from being a 1970s TV junkie to learning practical skills, being more self-sufficient, having a sense of accomplishment, being selfless and community minded, made me more thoughtful and compassionate, and gave me sense of a larger purpose. Never even had one scout master say or do anything remotely creepy or inappropriate.
I was bullied by the scoutmasters son, culminating in being held down and whipped with a piece of tire by his son and older brothers without any repercussions for them, and I so I left the boyscouts (If I remember correctly, the response was "boys will be boys")
Boys will be boys applies to them hurting themselves doing something fun.
That's just using it to ignore problematic behavior :/
Some of these quotes, its like you want to say "Do you not hear yourself? do you not hear how that sounds?" Like david cross's character in arrested development
I've been wheezing uncontrollably at "there goes my fucking saturday" for like an hour. My fucking sides.
That was so fkin funny
Trying to sell popcorn was the most traumatic thing I did in Boy Scouts.
Yeah that's about the worst of it now, from what I've heard about the local pack/troupe
Lucky you, lol
Some of us non-Mormons were bullied.
@@Obiwancolenobi Fuckin Mormons, amirite? (Pls don't car bomb me Mormons I'm irish we've had enough)
Robert's "19th century Brit" voice sounds like the Star Trek TNG Mark Twain performance, but much younger. 😂
The geometry priest casts circle of healing
You know it's going to be a good one when the titular bastard has a double-barrel surname and came from the landed gentry
Out. STANDING sentence. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Weird because I was attacked for being demonic by the troop leader and shunned by the rest of the troop for playing D&D. It's why I eventually left once I realized I was an atheist and the abuse would only worsen.
So many people like yourself (and myself) begin our journey of realizing the toxicity of our religion by being alienated for our nerdy hobbies like D&D, MtG, Pokemon and the like. If more religious people would just chill out about that stuff, there probably wouldn't be so many people leaving their religion. Especially if they put in the bare minimum amount of research to learn that those things aren't even bad or demonic at all, actually. But in the end, it's probably a good thing. I'm glad to put religion behind me, and I have controlling, stuffy old men and women afraid of every new thing at least partly to thank. And I'm certain I'm not alone.
I was in the BSA, and for every practical woodsy skill I learned, I also learned a new homophobic, sexist, or racist slur. But as far as I know, there was no sexual abuse in the troop I was in, so I guess I had a "relatively good" experience?
Two things:
One - I grew up in Seton Village, just south of Santa Fe NM. Fun!
Two - you should do Yukio Mishima at some point. There’s a lot of cross over to Baden Powell.
An episode on Yukio Mishima would rock. I love old Yukio ...
To quote Paul F Tompkins from last episode, "Oof"
1:02:30 "watching the little boys as they dance, jump, and jiggle"
this is definitely getting clipped by the tankies 😂
Hearing the Scout's Law unlocked feelings I haven't had for more than a decade.
Other than consequences of the dumbass decisions I made as a child, I had a good time with the BSA. It was a lot of fun to go to all the various places around where I lived, go do activities related and unrelated to nature, and have a group of friends outside of school. I think what really helped is that most of most the parents of my troop were also involved so it was hard for an abuser to get involved and made sure we did fun stuff for everyone.
I'm so ready for pt. 2, i wanna see if you mention my troop! we had a young, popular, local elected official as an assistant Scoutmaster while I was involved (who became an ASM immediately after his 21st birthday, having achieved almost every rank and badge possible in BSA and Venture Patrol (which goes to 21)) who turned out to have molested like 1/3 of the troop for years (as well as kids at his catholic church where he volunteered as well sooooo)
That wasn’t Scott Walker by any chance was it?
@@mrpink99 yeesh, no but what do you know?? Nah, he was a county board member in upstate NY named Mike Kelsey - widely respected and involved in tons of organizations tho, and only like 40 when he went down (2 years after i aged out of the troop). I don't think it's a stretch to say he was headed to Albany at least, or DC, if everything hadn't come to light (despite the troop's best efforts)
@@stretchedpaper whew!
cub scouts was fun, went pretty far in the pinewood derby with a smashmouth tour bus lol, but i remember as soon as it flipped to boy scouts it was the lamest shit ever, its crazy how they claim that getting eagle will help you with jobs and when i managed i noticed every guy that listed that was a huge fuck-off weirdo and completely unemployable
I had heard a similar story from someone who achieved eagle, and knew a few who also did who basically only were scouts, and had basically nothing else to them. It's nice to tack onto the resume, can build connections and by that time you get some good skills. It is not, however, a replacement for a personality lol
I grew up doing all that Scout-y stuff so I waited until I was 18 and got paid to do the tame versions thereof in the Army. It was pretty cool because it was camping with real tents, the marches were all .... wearing shoes ... there was plenty to eat, and we got to shoot machine guns and throw hand grenades. It was pretty awesome.
im late to the game but, i was a scout over here in italy. our branch is the "agesci", which is the italian branch of baden powell's original one. there aren't "boy" or "girl" scout groups over here, we are all mixed genders, only the squads are divided by gender. the first years were fine but quickly everything became too toxic: the chiefs, my other peers. id argue the religion stuff was even worse living in the country of the pope and all.
i'd say have a list of the majorly fucked up things that happened over there to me and others lmao
- i came out as bisexual to one of my squadmates and one of the chiefs found out and tried to "convert me back to heterosexuality" with the excuse that i couldnt have became a chief myself if i "stayed bisexual"
- was told that i couldnt be part of the group at all if i stayed an atheist (plot twist: i'm a nordic pagan now LMAO)
- me and the rest of the group (all minors!!) were denied food at the big end feast by the chiefs because we didn't tidy up the camp stuff fast enough. mind you that was going to be our lunch, we barely had breakfast before starting. i wouldve stayed without food if it wasnt for my mother saving up some stuff for me since she didn't see me come. they verbally abused us and screamed at us, a bunch of 12 to 16 year olds, because we werent strong enough to adjust some logs on the back of a truck without some help. that was the last straw for me and my parents.
add plenty of bullying and ableism and there you have it!! i'm sure i was just unlucky for the most part but if i ever have children i'll never have them be a scout. we can learn all the nature stuff by going on walks and camping without the borderline cultish behavior.
Dangit. I was in Cubs and Scouts for years.
I suspect that he was attracted to boys but, because of a combination of ignorance and denial, didn't realize that his feelings were sexual. Even if that was the case though it was still his choice to ignore all the red flags and stay ignorant. What he did was inexcusable
I mean would explain that very weird vibes, still, he shoudnt have tempted fate in the first place. Bad. And criminally irresponsibe to ,found a youth group to,unexcusable :(
What's scouting, my boys?!
The fucking carnival barker voice sent me.
I was a sister in the boy scouts (not officially IN but in, ya know?) and I also had an amazing time. Honestly an amazing part of my childhood and what happened was just SO FUCKED...
hoo boy, this oughta' be spicier than a spicy nacho Dorito.
Or Takis even
@@KidVolcano only just started getting Takis in my country. I've somewhat softened my usual Death to America stance for now.
@@BOOOOOOOONE
Don't do it. That's how they get ya.
Abuse is a serious matter and shouldn't e joked about
I was in the boyscout. I was not molested. Is there a merit badge for that?
That's why I didn't even start working for the Boyscouts..
Geometry Priest?
Hey... I get it. Gotta have those bases covered. 😂
Todd has Baden Powell cover his hands with Baden's much larger hands. "For the Website!"
Baden-Powell did a bunch of stuff in my hometown, there's a statue of him down on the quay that has been... shall we say controversial.
I was in scouting for years, and even though I have a lot of trauma from those days (some of which I still don’t fully remember), nothing nearly as horrific as r*** happened to me. My dad was an active participant in my scouting activities, though, and he never liked my local troop, so I know he was relieved when I quit. I still don’t think anything super shady was going on there, but they ran my troop like a JROTC, which was more than enough to fuck me up.
Anyone know who wrote the book they reference here?
Damn - describing it as "overly sentimental" is just about the most Nabokovian thing ever.
THE SEGUES IN THIS EPISODE AHAHAHAHA
The story about him sending the Black people out of the military base is obviously Baden sending people he deemed worthless to their deaths is very telling. He knew the enemy would attack anyone who left the protection of the camp.
When I was in scouts, we mostly just played dodgeball. It was pointless and I quit.
Bada Boom.
Go drink some water comrades.
Unironically, the Baden-Powell thing literally shows up in Star Trek multiple times, one with Kirk. "Conscience of the King". You got two choices...everyone dies, or a smaller number dies. Take a wild guess which choice sane people pick out of two garbage options. If you choose "The Masada Initiative", good for you, but you don't get that option, because if you present it, everyone else will "Masada" you, and chunk your starved body across the wall with a trebuchet at the enemy.
Pro-Tip Hint: in the middle of a war that you are trying to win, the correct answer isn't "killing all of my own people so I can win by being wiped out by the enemy so they can win instead". You tell non-coms to leave the area. If they get killed outside your area of control, it's not exactly like you could do anything about it to begin with when everyone is starving.
Also unironically, comrades always pick the first option in Stalin & Leningrad, ensuring it drags out to the highest possible population death numbers, with the only thing saving the situation is a turn in weather and the impossibility of logistics ruining the other side while fighting a war on three fronts.
Lots & lots of water drinking during those sieges by communists.
It did not, however, help whatsoever with no food losing 6000 people a day because you don't know how to run a war.
Also even more unironically, Hitlerites always choose that same first option because losing is the entire population wiped out winning friends we made along the way.
I’m really struggling to find anything in terms of about the sexual references you’ve made in this. I’m rather confused where you’ve gotten this from and how reliable it is. It can’t just be oh yeah it’s probably true because someone who we know nothing about said it.
Please don't let this be taken as a poor taste joke, the internet at large, but after the Jew Scouts comment all I can hear is:
Praising the lord by moonlight
Eating latkes by daylight
Follow sacred ascetic rites
He is the one they call Jewish Moon 😂😂😂
No idea why my phone auto-corrects has I dic as ascetic. Like you could be a Jewish person who chose to be ascetic, but I meant to sect not the unmaterialist philosophy 😅
what is that poem a parody of i swear i heard it when i was a cub scout… they had so many weird ceremonies and rhymes and things. incredibly strange
Nice sailor moon reference
29:00-30:00 - The British empire invented Hitler by all means; there may be no question about that.
Lot of cultural appropriation in scouts, if i remember correctly there was a merit badge for indian lore... even more appropriation in the Order of the Arrow. Yes i was in both. Thankfully i never saw or experienced any abuse in either my troop or unit respectively.
The amount of pretending to be native Americans was WILD.
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It's weird having grown up listening all my cis male relatives doing or having done the boy scouts, to the point we have multiple eagle scouts in the family and being jealous of that but then growing up and realizing hey, maybe that was a good thing. I still wish I could have done wilderness survival shit as a kid
Hate washing